I've done the Porsche fly, buy and drive three times. First was a 944S2 from Wichita to Seattle. Second was a 1987 911 from Tulsa to Seattle, and the third was a 2009 Cayman S from Phoenix to Seattle (done with my son). Each has been a terrific adventure. Jon's story brought back a lot of memories. Keep the car!
Great car to D R I V E . The exterior is perfectly imperfect. Love the wheel set. The turbo tea tray doesn't work with the 3.0 badge. Proper 3.0 spoilers are expensive, but would look nice. A smooth rear deck lid would look great and are easy to swap in. Look like a fun keeper - enjoy adding the miles!
Gorgeous car, super shining red! A car to keep and love. New ssi backdated exhaust (sound and performance but still good for cruising). Just a little more stance, whaletale removed and new black carpets, seats with red stiching and central black insert alcantara.! And it’s new love again!
Good interview. I like this sentiment “stock, but better”. Interesting to see the ‘87 next to the 964, the differences in body lines were more apparent than I’d thought.
Will - another great video. Thank you for these owner experience vignettes. John - love the car. I have owned a 1978 911 SC very similar to yours. Same color same interior same wheels. I tell you the truth about these cars: it is much more fun driving a slower car fast than driving a fast car slow. I wish I still had the ‘78. I have a great 997 that I picked up from Sonderwerks yesterday which they freshened up for me, but there that special quality of an air-cooled. My ‘78 also had the 3.0 engine and I burst out laughing when you described the hot-start problem because I too had the same issue ..... always parked it on a slight incline in order to fascinate a compression start when I was on a road trip or cruise. Personally .... I’d keep the wing because of the late ‘70’s and ‘80’s retro look. Sweet car John.
Wow R5 Turbo in the background. Never thought they made it to the US. Or that American knows what these are and how rare and cool they are. To us, french people, they are as important as Jesus to a Christian 🙂
I flew one way to Philly from Eastern Iowa. Limo up to York, PA. Picked up my GTS and drove straight through to Dayton. Visited the Air Force Museum at Wright Pat and straight through to Iowa. Timed between snow storms. Just a wonderful experience. Road trip! Ya Porsches are made for it. “Ding”. You are free to move about the country...(sort of).
Great channel. Keep your car. Keep your wife, more importantly. My first wife wouldn’t allow me to buy a 911 after all our debts were paid and money was set aside for our kids education. I now have a new wife, old 911, better life. I say to everyone out there - if your spouse refuses to allow you to buy an air cooled 911 after you have covered your bills, think real carefully about your options. Great channel BTW
It’s quite unfortunate that the market for these cars is so high now, my dream to own one and hopefully the market doesn’t go that much higher in a couple years so I can get my hands on one
I have an 89 911 3.2 driver with a 176 thousand miles on it and one complete rebuild. I love it and as you can tell I drive it .....keep the wing as it gives the car a little more personality
Nice looking 77'. Definitely a keeper, I would take of the turbo wing and add a SC wing, lower suspension, exhaust, and rassant intake manifold system to make that motor come to life......
Wondering if you'll be doing a video about your thoughts/predictions on the aircooled market, specifically the 911sc. Is it the new normal, a bubble waiting to burst? Curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks! Love the content
Thanks. Yes, I am planning on discussing the market, specially auctions that have blown my mind. I don’t have a crystal ball, but I will also discuss what Porsche community members told me about the value forecasts in the next 12 - 18 months. Thanks for watching 🙏🏽
I used to have an 87 Targa, guards red with a tail. The only thing I really wasnt crazy about aesthetically was the tail. The classic Porsche body lines without appendages looks best to me.
Leave the wing on it looks great but if you are going to take out the back seats I would also strip out the carpet and door panels and make it as light as possible then make the suspension as firm as you can afford 😉
A beautiful car with awesome history. Just makes you want to drive it. A few modern upgrades mechanically and electrically and its a true keeper. Enjoy.
Very nice driving Porche example, so not a show car. Anyways, this period of 911 looks better without the whale tail and conserve his timeless shape. Good video!
I have this exact same car, and it came in much worse condition. Someone had turned mine into a turbo widebody look. It's a great base to build upon. Definitely 86 the tea tray. I'd do nice inserts like you said for the seats. I'd also lower it a bit and put on H4's but that's me. Definitely drop the engine and clean and refresh it. Great car!
Nice looking car! The 1st time I saw it my 1st thought was the whale tail needs to go. I have a 930 and that's the only car I like to see that tail on and it's necessary on them. I LOVE the narrow look of these older cars though. Me personally...it will look awesome without the tail! Thanks for video! Oh, and I would likely ship it home! Just me....I like to KNOW a car before I drive it a long distance. Thanks again!
I am going through the same sell or keep(and put some real $$ into it). Have a 1976 911s, blue metallic, inherited from my dad in 2007; i’’m the third owner. 145k miles on it, a few dings, overall paint is good. Synchro 2-3 is so so, drips some oil at night- don’t they all…. I’m mid 60s, have a left drop foot so shifting is a little of a challenge. No A/C.. all my car enthusiast friends are split on keep or sell. My 37 year old son (in FL) wants it…..
For me, I’ve have always thought that the red and white g cars always looked great with the front and real spoilers and that other colors did not. It has to do with the combination and how the colors affect the lines, curves, dimensioning, and the mind of the observer.
Jon .. looks good. As for the wing, I suggest removal. When I see those wings I think turbo, without that to me they look fake. Dave does really great work, but best if you shoot to do as much as possible all in one go. Example do everything you want on your interior all at once. I own the blue 911sc that was at the shop in front of yours in the video. If you have any questions about it ask Will for my contact info. Should be picking it up on Tuesday...
I agree...that is exactly my plan...knock out the interior all at once and enjoy the feeling of completion. Then go on to the next project...they are never really finished are they! Jon
Nice 911 I would sell the Turbo tail. Put on a 3.0 carrera tail if you want to look a little more correct. Turbo tail is too large for narrow body cars. Are those 17" after market Fuchs ? If so try to go Original Fuchs 7 and 8s.x 15 or 16" Last I would try and source some Sport Seats from that era. Yes on making car louder. Ssi sport pipes could be cool. Great cars no matter what even if you left it as is.
Certainly good car for an outlaw; wing is from 930 so really inappropriate but really lovely keeper, it’s the experiences and memories built up over time that u have that make the car more valuable to u personally - the mythical bond between man and machine !
I would remove the wing and change the rear lights to black framed lights and also put some nice recaros in the interior :-) Thats what I would change.
So I *think* the 911S generation came before the SC (“Super Carrera”) which preceded the Carrera. Can be confusing because they are all g body cars with subtle differences but nothing major. The 911S came with an ill-fated 2.7 liter that had some unfortunate technology that caused many of them to grenade (sound familiar? IMS lol). When they upgraded the engine to the 3.0 from the factory, I believe they changed the name from 911S to 911SC Due to the engine issue many owners would drop 3.0 liter or 3.2 liter engines into the S generation, confusing the issue even more. With all of that said, I am no expert and welcome someone to correct or edit my thoughts. I did some light reading on the 911S but doesn’t mean I am an expert.
keep the whale tail or go duck tail. Those cars look killer with the whale tail. Total 70/80 styling that fits the car perfectly. Without the spoiler they just look like volkswagen beetle to me.
I think maybe a Fiat but not sure. Look through the comments..as I recall some guys were getting excited about it when I published awhile back and were talking about it. Not really in my wheelhouse so I don’t know.
I need some advice please! I have a 99 911 996 and put brand new Bilstein struts and H&M lowering springs...I wanted it lowered a tad...well I don’t know if it’s the struts or springs but I feel very pebble in the road...it’s actually quite terrible...so I don’t know if I should go with coilovers or something else...your feedback would be appreciated...
Springs can tend to ride rougher than coilovers. The advantage is they’re cheaper to run. The disadvantage is that you will likely notice a drop in ride quality. You’ll most likely adjust to the new ride. Coming from factory anything will seem stiff...just get familiar with it and rip it through the twisties! 😄
Yes. I run Bilstein PSS10’s on my 993 and they are superb. I have had Bilsteins on other cars I’ve owned and they were good on those applications as well. On the 993, I would describe them as planted, firm, yet they absorb road imperfections with no drama. The lowering height will be up to you and your shop and there’s plenty of info on the forums about this topics. I went pretty low on mine but the less wheel gap the better in my world. Good luck.
Keep the car and have Nakai RWB it.....jk, please don't do that. Ducktail that thing and some new suspension and maybe some gold BBS wheels. Then have that shop do a nice tartan interior while you're there already!
Yes, he should sell. The cars are expensive to run and don't do well if not run. Top end rebuild for 10+k every 80k or so miles. The only dynamic they have over anything else I have driven is the smell.
@@Moldpoxfamily (had a 993 c4s aero turbo look....and then a gt2....so not just a troll, solo in pca hpde....) So, I'd sell because of the money and frankly safety issues (safety matters). If I kept the car, here is where I would go...so big dollars: This red car looks tired. Would go full RS mod. 1. Rear seat delete. 2. Great seats....Recaro CS's perhaps with the check pattern a la Porsche. 3. RS side cards and pulls 4. Some sort of cool shifter with gaits ...hate rubber boots. 5. Tilted gauges. 6. One of those new classic single din radios 7. RS front end and rear end 8. Duck tail 9. No side decals 10. Fuchs lookalikes in a bigger and wider size 11. elephant racing bottom/suspension so it can get a proper string alignment and learn how to do that....it is fun 12. Dress up the engine with new tubing, etc....avoid bright colors like reds and blues (sorry to the TH-cam channel host)...black and silver age well....red is only for calipers and door pulls 13. Rennline parts on the pedals and floors and other areas.... 14. RS gas tank. 15. Rebuild the engine properly by a race shop.... My guess is the above is over 30k with labor.....perhaps more....
My car is a silver on black '85, full leather, power sport seats, Fuchs, and factory spoiler package. I've owned it since '96. I put 993 replica wheels on it, and added an OMP steering wheel and shift knob. Other than a pretty badass stereo that was added before I bought it, it's unmolested. I personally don't like turbo tails on non-turbo cars, (LOVE the tea tray on mine) but complaining about things on other people's cars that you don't like is like a bowling ball. Pointless. If you don't like a particular part, color, modification or what have you, then don't do it to your car, and just keep your mouth shut about cars that aren't yours.
Ditch the tea tray. Lights- remove the funky big rectangular dring lights. If you want lights here, use stock. Upgrade head lights to the mo betta H-4s Now yer rockin👍🐸
If you remove the whale you then have to remove the front spoiler otherwise would you have to much lift at the rear and it will be scary to drive at high speed.
Delete the poser details like the turbo tail and the carrera 3.0 script. It’s still a classic aircooled 911. The non matching 3.0 engine actually gives you the liberty to customize this car and make it even more special. I will start with the mechanicals (engine, suspension, lightening maybe, etc.) and then the aesthetics last like the interiors, paint, etc. Lastly, drive it regularly and squeeze every juice out of it. Enjoy!
Sell it. Someone drinking air-cooled kool aide will buy it and overpay for it. I had a ‘77 911 new. The car was a problem (electrical, leaking windshield, unstable rear end), I can only imagine how painful the car is now, 45 years later. Rust may be a problem. Added on whale tails always say “poser” to me.
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I've done the Porsche fly, buy and drive three times. First was a 944S2 from Wichita to Seattle. Second was a 1987 911 from Tulsa to Seattle, and the third was a 2009 Cayman S from Phoenix to Seattle (done with my son). Each has been a terrific adventure. Jon's story brought back a lot of memories.
Keep the car!
THE WING MAKES IT, IT LOOKS FANTASIC.
Great car to D R I V E . The exterior is perfectly imperfect. Love the wheel set. The turbo tea tray doesn't work with the 3.0 badge. Proper 3.0 spoilers are expensive, but would look nice. A smooth rear deck lid would look great and are easy to swap in. Look like a fun keeper - enjoy adding the miles!
Gorgeous car, super shining red! A car to keep and love. New ssi backdated exhaust (sound and performance but still good for cruising). Just a little more stance, whaletale removed and new black carpets, seats with red stiching and central black insert alcantara.! And it’s new love again!
The car looks PERFECT appearance wise i wouldn’t change a thing except for mechanical stuff
Good interview. I like this sentiment “stock, but better”. Interesting to see the ‘87 next to the 964, the differences in body lines were more apparent than I’d thought.
Cool video, lots of passion and love for the car. Keep the car for sure :)
Definitely a keeper! I’d personally delete the whale tail but looks great with or without.
Would it be a big deal removing the whale tail? Would the car need a repaint? I agree I really like the car but wouldn’t like the whale tail
Keep it! It looks great. I also have a 1977 911S and I have a tail on it. I love it.
Thanks man! Drive it!! Jon
Will - another great video. Thank you for these owner experience vignettes.
John - love the car. I have owned a 1978 911 SC very similar to yours. Same color same interior same wheels. I tell you the truth about these cars: it is much more fun driving a slower car fast than driving a fast car slow. I wish I still had the ‘78. I have a great 997 that I picked up from Sonderwerks yesterday which they freshened up for me, but there that special quality of an air-cooled. My ‘78 also had the 3.0 engine and I burst out laughing when you described the hot-start problem because I too had the same issue ..... always parked it on a slight incline in order to fascinate a compression start when I was on a road trip or cruise. Personally .... I’d keep the wing because of the late ‘70’s and ‘80’s retro look. Sweet car John.
I would keep the wing. Looks nice! Would probably remove the additional lights. Great story around the purchase 👍
Yeah, I am with you on the lights. It had fogs originally, but I don't think these are the ones. Appreciate the feedback. Jon
No way. Fly baby fly!!! Leave that wing on! Beautiful car!!
Thanks...appreciate the love! Jon
The wide fuchs fits the wing. Maybe get the car a little lower. Do what you want. Tails can be easily swapped out
Wow R5 Turbo in the background. Never thought they made it to the US. Or that American knows what these are and how rare and cool they are. To us, french people, they are as important as Jesus to a Christian 🙂
That the R5 turbo ? I want.
I flew one way to Philly from Eastern Iowa. Limo up to York, PA. Picked up my GTS and drove straight through to Dayton. Visited the Air Force Museum at Wright Pat and straight through to Iowa. Timed between snow storms. Just a wonderful experience. Road trip! Ya Porsches are made for it. “Ding”. You are free to move about the country...(sort of).
No whale tail. Greetings from Glasgow Scotland.
Looks great 👍
Great channel. Keep your car. Keep your wife, more importantly. My first wife wouldn’t allow me to buy a 911 after all our debts were paid and money was set aside for our kids education.
I now have a new wife, old 911, better life. I say to everyone out there - if your spouse refuses to allow you to buy an air cooled 911 after you have covered your bills, think real carefully about your options. Great channel BTW
That’s a beautiful example. You did well. These cars will continue to climb given the move to electrification.
Great vid and car. Looks like fender flares were done to this car. Was that mentioned on PPI?
Nice one Will, if the tail is on leave it alone, nice driver for sure, my favorites.
It’s quite unfortunate that the market for these cars is so high now, my dream to own one and hopefully the market doesn’t go that much higher in a couple years so I can get my hands on one
Keep the wing. Absolutely beautiful car. Put a PCM classic radio. 1977 is my birth year, would love it if it was mine.
I have an 89 911 3.2 driver with a 176 thousand miles on it and one complete rebuild. I love it and as you can tell I drive it .....keep the wing as it gives the car a little more personality
Nice looking 77'. Definitely a keeper, I would take of the turbo wing and add a SC wing, lower suspension, exhaust, and rassant intake manifold system to make that motor come to life......
What’s an actual wing? Is that the smaller wing?
Wondering if you'll be doing a video about your thoughts/predictions on the aircooled market, specifically the 911sc. Is it the new normal, a bubble waiting to burst? Curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks! Love the content
Thanks. Yes, I am planning on discussing the market, specially auctions that have blown my mind. I don’t have a crystal ball, but I will also discuss what Porsche community members told me about the value forecasts in the next 12 - 18 months. Thanks for watching 🙏🏽
Love this car. Love the tail wing!
How embarrassing this guy admits to the world, he needed permission from his wife to buy a 911, he didn't exactly say that, but indirectly he did.
Road tripping and mountain driving are my favorite things to do in my 997.2 C4S
I used to have an 87 Targa, guards red with a tail. The only thing I really wasnt crazy about aesthetically was the tail. The classic Porsche body lines without appendages looks best to me.
Yeah, hard to beat the classic lines as Porsche designed them! Thanks for the feedback! Jon
Leave the wing on it looks great but if you are going to take out the back seats I would also strip out the carpet and door panels and make it as light as possible then make the suspension as firm as you can afford 😉
A beautiful car with awesome history. Just makes you want to drive it. A few modern upgrades mechanically and electrically and its a true keeper. Enjoy.
Very nice driving Porche example, so not a show car. Anyways, this period of 911 looks better without the whale tail and conserve his timeless shape. Good video!
I'm a fan of the wing. I would keep it.
Unless it’s an intercooler wing and factory installed or part of “turbo look” factory installed, the spoiler should go.
I have this exact same car, and it came in much worse condition. Someone had turned mine into a turbo widebody look. It's a great base to build upon. Definitely 86 the tea tray. I'd do nice inserts like you said for the seats. I'd also lower it a bit and put on H4's but that's me. Definitely drop the engine and clean and refresh it. Great car!
Thank you! Really appreciate the feedback...I like the suggestions! Jon
Nice looking car! The 1st time I saw it my 1st thought was the whale tail needs to go. I have a 930 and that's the only car I like to see that tail on and it's necessary on them. I LOVE the narrow look of these older cars though. Me personally...it will look awesome without the tail! Thanks for video! Oh, and I would likely ship it home! Just me....I like to KNOW a car before I drive it a long distance. Thanks again!
I am going through the same sell or keep(and put some real $$ into it). Have a 1976 911s, blue metallic, inherited from my dad in 2007; i’’m the third owner. 145k miles on it, a few dings, overall paint is good. Synchro 2-3 is so so, drips some oil at night- don’t they all…. I’m mid 60s, have a left drop foot so shifting is a little of a challenge. No A/C.. all my car enthusiast friends are split on keep or sell. My 37 year old son (in FL) wants it…..
Too many reasons to keep it. I say don’t sell.
For me, I’ve have always thought that the red and white g cars always looked great with the front and real spoilers and that other colors did not. It has to do with the combination and how the colors affect the lines, curves, dimensioning, and the mind of the observer.
I would keep the wing, the colour looks good in combination with a wing. There are more an more less cars with the Original wing.
I getting dizzy. Great content though. Keep the tail, looks great and I think it balances out the bumpers.
Love the deep dish 16s
Jon .. looks good. As for the wing, I suggest removal. When I see those wings I think turbo, without that to me they look fake. Dave does really great work, but best if you shoot to do as much as possible all in one go. Example do everything you want on your interior all at once.
I own the blue 911sc that was at the shop in front of yours in the video. If you have any questions about it ask Will for my contact info. Should be picking it up on Tuesday...
I know you’re psyched to get your car!
I agree...that is exactly my plan...knock out the interior all at once and enjoy the feeling of completion. Then go on to the next project...they are never really finished are they! Jon
Nice 911
I would
sell the Turbo tail.
Put on a 3.0 carrera tail if you want to look a little more correct. Turbo tail is too large for narrow body cars.
Are those 17" after market Fuchs ?
If so try to go Original Fuchs 7 and 8s.x 15 or 16"
Last I would try and source some Sport Seats from that era.
Yes on making car louder. Ssi sport pipes could be cool.
Great cars no matter what even if you left it as is.
Leave it and would upgrade the Headlights.Cheers!
Replace with Ducktail.
Certainly good car for an outlaw; wing is from 930 so really inappropriate but really lovely keeper, it’s the experiences and memories built up over time that u have that make the car more valuable to u personally - the mythical bond between man and machine !
OH WOW!!! The whale Tail stays. That tail is what I fell in love with when I was 16 so I say NO WAY!
Do you happen to know anything about his fuch’s? Are they originals/reproductions? Curious as I’m currently looking for a set and like the look.
Hey Brad...Not sure if these were the original ones or not, they were on the car when I bought it. They are Fuchs.
Ducktail all the way. New tight weave carpet. Porsche Classic Radio. Porsche Crest on center of steering wheel.
that tail has to stay! 👍👍👍
I would remove the wing and change the rear lights to black framed lights and also put some nice recaros in the interior :-)
Thats what I would change.
Appreciate it, Timo! Jon
I also would remove the fog lights and change the headlights in eu-Version. And don't forget a KW V3 chassis to get it low.
Ducktail!!!! and plaid inserts and matching door cards
keep the wing looks great
Ducktail- I did mine last month😉
Wing must stay
I’m all about the wing look
Fresh seats , carpets , door inserts and an exhaust would be plenty
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Appreciate it!
Wing❤️
Will, I think I heard him say the car is not a Carerra but is an S? What’s the difference? For example, what is a 3.2 Carrera versus an ‘S’
So I *think* the 911S generation came before the SC (“Super Carrera”) which preceded the Carrera. Can be confusing because they are all g body cars with subtle differences but nothing major.
The 911S came with an ill-fated 2.7 liter that had some unfortunate technology that caused many of them to grenade (sound familiar? IMS lol). When they upgraded the engine to the 3.0 from the factory, I believe they changed the name from 911S to 911SC
Due to the engine issue many owners would drop 3.0 liter or 3.2 liter engines into the S generation, confusing the issue even more.
With all of that said, I am no expert and welcome someone to correct or edit my thoughts. I did some light reading on the 911S but doesn’t mean I am an expert.
@@Rennthusiast Thanks for the clarity, Will. I thought I had a pretty good understanding but you’ve clarified. Good topic for discussion.
keep the whale tail or go duck tail. Those cars look killer with the whale tail. Total 70/80 styling that fits the car perfectly. Without the spoiler they just look like volkswagen beetle to me.
Don’t sell it John! You will miss it. I say get a ducktail only bc I’m biased as I have one on my 964 lol
I like the whale tail. I would take out the chrome on the rear lights. The interior could use a refresh.
Sod the 911........whats the story with the renault turbo
They’re not making any more of them. Keep it!
Keep it 💯
What’s the white wagon or hatchback in the corner in this video??
I think maybe a Fiat but not sure. Look through the comments..as I recall some guys were getting excited about it when I published awhile back and were talking about it. Not really in my wheelhouse so I don’t know.
Remove the wing,lower it and add some boom on the exhaust.
I like it! We definitely have to do something about that exhaust note! Jon
delete the tail and get it upgrade ie interior, nice ride for DD
I need some advice please! I have a 99 911 996 and put brand new Bilstein struts and H&M lowering springs...I wanted it lowered a tad...well I don’t know if it’s the struts or springs but I feel very pebble in the road...it’s actually quite terrible...so I don’t know if I should go with coilovers or something else...your feedback would be appreciated...
Springs can tend to ride rougher than coilovers. The advantage is they’re cheaper to run. The disadvantage is that you will likely notice a drop in ride quality.
You’ll most likely adjust to the new ride. Coming from factory anything will seem stiff...just get familiar with it and rip it through the twisties! 😄
@@Rennthusiast will a decent set of coilovers give me best of both worlds? Good ride quality, lowered and performance?
Yes. I run Bilstein PSS10’s on my 993 and they are superb. I have had Bilsteins on other cars I’ve owned and they were good on those applications as well.
On the 993, I would describe them as planted, firm, yet they absorb road imperfections with no drama. The lowering height will be up to you and your shop and there’s plenty of info on the forums about this topics. I went pretty low on mine but the less wheel gap the better in my world. Good luck.
@@Rennthusiast thank you so much!!!
@@Rennthusiast any suggestions other than Bilstein that I won’t have to mortgage my house? Lol 😂
No wing keep the smooth lines.
Swap the whale tail for a duck tail!
I had a 914 and a 1978 911 SC....
KEEP the tail!!!!! Great car.
Keep it and just refresh it, especially on the inside. Probabely make it "european" (remove the us bumpers and the US lights
Keep the car and have Nakai RWB it.....jk, please don't do that. Ducktail that thing and some new suspension and maybe some gold BBS wheels. Then have that shop do a nice tartan interior while you're there already!
Whew...scared me there for a second...I can't get on board with the RWB thing! Thanks for the suggestions. Jon
I would remove the wing an the front light surrounds 👌
Thanks for the feedback...great suggestions! Jon
MODIFY.....duck tail, suspension, brakes and better seats! 👍
Yes, he should sell. The cars are expensive to run and don't do well if not run. Top end rebuild for 10+k every 80k or so miles. The only dynamic they have over anything else I have driven is the smell.
Appreciate the comments...and definitely a unique smell! Jon
@@Moldpoxfamily (had a 993 c4s aero turbo look....and then a gt2....so not just a troll, solo in pca hpde....)
So, I'd sell because of the money and frankly safety issues (safety matters).
If I kept the car, here is where I would go...so big dollars:
This red car looks tired. Would go full RS mod.
1. Rear seat delete.
2. Great seats....Recaro CS's perhaps with the check pattern a la Porsche.
3. RS side cards and pulls
4. Some sort of cool shifter with gaits ...hate rubber boots.
5. Tilted gauges.
6. One of those new classic single din radios
7. RS front end and rear end
8. Duck tail
9. No side decals
10. Fuchs lookalikes in a bigger and wider size
11. elephant racing bottom/suspension so it can get a proper string alignment and learn how to do that....it is fun
12. Dress up the engine with new tubing, etc....avoid bright colors like reds and blues (sorry to the TH-cam channel host)...black and silver age well....red is only for calipers and door pulls
13. Rennline parts on the pedals and floors and other areas....
14. RS gas tank.
15. Rebuild the engine properly by a race shop....
My guess is the above is over 30k with labor.....perhaps more....
My car is a silver on black '85, full leather, power sport seats, Fuchs, and factory spoiler package. I've owned it since '96. I put 993 replica wheels on it, and added an OMP steering wheel and shift knob. Other than a pretty badass stereo that was added before I bought it, it's unmolested.
I personally don't like turbo tails on non-turbo cars, (LOVE the tea tray on mine) but complaining about things on other people's cars that you don't like is like a bowling ball. Pointless. If you don't like a particular part, color, modification or what have you, then don't do it to your car, and just keep your mouth shut about cars that aren't yours.
Sounds great, man! Hope to see you on the road. Jon
If it didn’t come with that wing from the factory, take it off.
Get rid of the whale!. Lower it, change the seats for period Recaros, clean up the engine and you're good to go. Nice car Jon.
Thanks, man! I think you are on to it!
Great find. Lose the tail.
What a beautiful car. Keep the tail.
Ditch the tea tray. Lights- remove the funky big rectangular dring lights. If you want lights here, use stock.
Upgrade head lights to the mo betta H-4s
Now yer rockin👍🐸
Ducktail for sure!
I definitely wouldn't put a duck tail in it.. not that one.
If you remove the whale you then have to remove the front spoiler otherwise would you have to much lift at the rear and it will be scary to drive at high speed.
Indeed! Thanks for the feedback! Jon
If you sold it, you’d regret it. I do.
Keep the Tea Tray. It looks great!
Delete the poser details like the turbo tail and the carrera 3.0 script. It’s still a classic aircooled 911. The non matching 3.0 engine actually gives you the liberty to customize this car and make it even more special. I will start with the mechanicals (engine, suspension, lightening maybe, etc.) and then the aesthetics last like the interiors, paint, etc. Lastly, drive it regularly and squeeze every juice out of it. Enjoy!
Delete the wing.
Off and buy a new deck lid. Bring it back to original...... my opinion
I like it...thanks! Jon
Swap it for that R5 Turbo 2!
Yeah, that thing was insane! The first one I have seen up close....looks like a riot, but I'll stick with the 911! Jon
Loose the turbo tail. No duck tail.
ofc he should sell. I'll buy it.
Get rid of it!
Tell you what I'll do, I'll go out of my way to take it off your hands and save you the hassle.
I’d keep the whale tail. Looks cool and retro
Thanks, Trevor! Jon
Back to Original...
He's gotta be the only person I'd ever heard talk negative about the whaletail lol what is wrong with him?? That's what makes that car
Delete the tail and customize the hell out it. Drive drive drive.
Sell it. Someone drinking air-cooled kool aide will buy it and overpay for it. I had a ‘77 911 new. The car was a problem (electrical, leaking windshield, unstable rear end), I can only imagine how painful the car is now, 45 years later. Rust may be a problem. Added on whale tails always say “poser” to me.
“Air cooled kool aid” love it 😂
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Keep the wing.
Wing delete please