Just stumbled on this video and overview. I received this exact same jointer from my dad who passed a few years back. I'm going through a restoration this summer... disassembly, cleaning and re-paint. Thank you for posting this.
just bought a newer Rockwell (same model number) in a local auction for $85. found this video looking for how to replace the knives. thanks for posting these videos! very helpful!
Nice find! And the repairs/upgrades you made to it are great. My shopsmith jointer attachment has the same dual fence adjustment and I also think that feature is great. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Mac! Funny you mention the shopsmith. I was just speaking to a friend a few days ago that might be picking one up with many attachments. Interesting the jointer has the same dual adjustments. This type of system has tons of versatility. Thanks for the info, G.
I LOVE it! I bought almost the exact same jointer from a guy in town for 50 bucks with what looks like a similar motor. No stand though. I had the same issue with the motor. Mine has a double shaft and I could just switched sides, but I'm building a rolling cart with my planer, belt sander, disc sander and my jointer all on it so the motor for my jointer ended up being flipped around the opposite way to keep it tucked under the stand to make room for dust collection under the jointer so it worked out for me. I did speed up the rpm a little on the cutter head. It worked OK, but for some reason, that particular vibration hurts my hands. I think I'm running 5500 rpm or so and it seems smoother to me and the sound of the cutting is less.... percussive? I haven't had any issues with anything heating up so I'll probably keep it this way. BTW You aren't kidding about the strange 9/16 shaft. I bought a pully assuming it was half inch. I ended up just boring it out to 9/16. It thinned the wall of the bore a little bit but nothing crazy and it's not a super high torque machine so it should be fine.... *famous last words*
Great price Lloyd! Try running a link belt. They can take a lot of vibration out of belt driven machinery. If you do try one- be aware they are directional. If ran incorrectly- they can actually increase vibration. I run them on almost all of my machine tools and will run nothing else. Yeah, a very strange bore size for sure. Why they didn't go with a standard size is beyond me. They probably could've used an off the shelf unit rather than having to produce an odd-ball. I imagine there was a reason- but I can't see it. Good luck with yours, G.
Thanks Daniel! I sure would have like to find a deal on a 6" model like I did on this 4", but I'm not complaining one bit! You certainly can't beat the deal you got on yours. Good luck with it, G.
Larry, I believe I got it off eBay, but it's been years ago. Here's a link to one on Amazon. I didn't price shop and don't recall if 4' is long enough if your setup is just like mine. Harbor Freight also sells one that is 5' long. I've never used theirs but hear they work great. I'll link to that one as well. Good luck, G. www.amazon.com/Power-Twist-Plus-Link-V-Belt/dp/B08D8ZL9PM/ref=asc_df_B08D8ZL9PM/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459541631699&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5747656277895437396&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1024324&hvtargid=pla-974521764408&psc=1 www.harborfreight.com/vibration-free-link-belt-43771.html
I ended up getting new pulleys for the jointer I’m fixing because the unbalanced pulleys caused so much vibration, it’s definitely something to watch for when getting a used Delta Rockwell jointer.
You have perfect timing. I picked up a 1938 6" delta 36-207 several months ago. I replaced the bearings then but haven't got back to finish it up. Need to replace the head pulley (it crumbled to pieces when I removed it), sharpen the knives and reinstall he head. I planned to do it this weekend and then saw your videos. I'm going to use the rust remover you suggest and sharpen and set the knives using the methods you demonstrated. Couple questions. You mentioned you had a new set of knives - where did you find them? How did you determine head rpm with varying size pulleys. I pick up a replacement for the head pulley, but it isn't an exact match. Thanks for the videos -
Very cool John. Sounds like your project is going about like mine- but mine took about 5yrs...lol. My head pulley has an odd 9/16 bore so check yours. 9/16 is extremely odd and trying to find a pulley might be difficult if yours is the same size. Ebay may be your only option, or using a bore reducer if one can be found. The Rust Free product I highly recommend. Let me know how it works for you. The new set of knives came with my jointer when I purchased it. I bet you could find a new set on Amazon, or even Ebay. If you can find a copy of the manual for your machine, it should state what RPM the cutter head should be running at. I would guess 42-4500 rpm- but confirm if you can. From there, visit this website and play around with the pulley diameters to achieve the proper configuration. Some tips on the calculator. The pulley center is not required unless you need to find a belt length. Tick RPM Large since this is the motor pulley. Enter 1725 if that's the RPM of your motor Play with the pulley sizes to get the rpm you're looking for. Click calculate between each change to update the results. www.blocklayer.com/pulley-belteng.aspx Hope this helps and let me know how things turn out! Good luck, G.
No problem Natalie! I'm glad you found it useful. I have other videos related to this jointer as well. Dig around my channel of you like. Take care, G.
Hi G, I got your link to Rockwell's 4" Jointer and it looks just like mind and it has a parts diagram which is what I was looking for. Thanks Again Dave
I’ve got this joiner too. The cutter head pulley outside diameter is 2”. When you refer to pulley diameter are you going of outside or inside diameter? Just want to make sure I get the right size. For the motor pulley. Thanks!
Hello Sir. I just found your channel. I just picked up the same joiner for $35 and everything works, but when I power it on the cutting blade runs backwards to how it should cut. It has cloth wiring coming out of the beast of a motor. Not sure how to rewire it to work properly. Like you said, trying to reverse the wires resulted in a lot of sparks... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...
Larry, if it's mounted on a bench, you can turn the motor 180 degrees to make the cutter head spin in the proper direction. As for re-wiring the motor so it turns in the other direction, you will need to dig to see if it's possible for your motor. Take care, G.
@@ghostses - Thank you. Appreciate the tips. I had thought about turning the motor 180°, which is doable, I’ll just have to add support to the motor as turning it will leave it off the frame.
My next door neighbor's husband passed away and she just wanted alot of his old stuff gone. My wife and I helped her out quite a bit and she just gave me the 8" table saw and 4" jointer just like this one for free. What size motor did you use for this one on the video? the motor on the table saw is a 1/2 horse. I was just figuring that the motor for the table saw was the same one for the jointer but wasn't sure. Haven't tried it yet. Thanks for the video.
Well thanks Bob. I'm almost ashamed I've had it for years and never finished getting it running. I bought it to make rails and stiles, and face frames for my kitchen remodel that has still not been started. I'm now back on track and gearing up for the work. Thanks and take care, G.
> Hi G, Thanks for the information you gave me. I do have a three inch > pulley on my motor but thought it was going to be to fast for running at > 3450rpm so I thought a 6.5 pulley would slow it down to half. I will try it > first with the three inch like you said. I first half to make a table to > put my four inch jointer on and mount my motor under it. Looking for plans > for a small table to build but can'tfind any place on the web for plans. > Have any places to send me to. Thanks Dave Calson
David Calson Dave, putting a larger pulley on the motor will actually speed up the cutter head. Based on your configuration, a 3" on the motor should do it. Sorry, I don't have any idea on where to go to get plans or ideas for a table. I would try to make something that looks similar to the original stands. Good luck, G.
Another great score, G. Nice old machine...especially the fence. Like your idea for the Gibs! Cheap pulleys are always a pain and never straight. I have a piece of 1"Al plate that I use to straighten them. If you lay them on the plate and use a little dead blow or rubber mallet with light taps you can bring them in better...but not perfect. Sometimes I pinch an old belt in them to keep from tweaking the channel. Like you said...Old pulleys are the best if not trashed. Think you need to get a bigger shop, Bud! LoL
Indeed! The fence is very cool. The gib thumbscrews will be a good upgrade. I'm not sure why they didn't do this in the beginning as it seems natural to me- but may have had something to do with a bean counter. I'm not sure if a new jointer would have locking gibs/tables or not- I've never really looked at them. Good tips on straightening out wonky pulleys. As yes, I REALLY need a bigger shop. I have the goods to do most things, but lack the space to do anything easily. I manage, but it's getting tougher as I drag in new things. Take care, G.
John, I'm assuming you that this exact model. The first thing I would do is loosen the gib screws then try to get it to move. You might also need to spray things down with a penetrating oil- the nut, screw, and ways. Give things some time and try not to force anything. I hope this helps, G.
Really informative, thanks. Two questions: what is the procedure to make the tables co-planar? Also, my tables are pretty beat up - what is the best way to restore the surface? Thanks!
amherstguitar Thanks! I have several videos related to this jointer that might give you more information. Please watch them if you like. Good luck, G. Cleaning the tables: th-cam.com/video/Zh5YpK8aO4g/w-d-xo.html Cleaning the cutter head: th-cam.com/video/z24-2UXAszk/w-d-xo.html Sharpening the knives: th-cam.com/video/2rGWTwoA1G8/w-d-xo.html Setting the knives: th-cam.com/video/LENyfLOFmpQ/w-d-xo.html Simple dust collection: th-cam.com/video/pDE0HINjqAo/w-d-xo.html
I just picked up same model from an 80 year old wood floor man. Replaced the cord but the feed adjusters are all stuck. I’ve soaked them as best as I could with penetrating oil but only got the fence adjuster to free. Any suggestions?
Thank you for a great video. I picked up one of those joiners about three years ago and have been using it a bit. The motor on mine just quit working and I need to fix or replace it. Any idea where I can find one. The switch is still working.
No problem James! If you have an original motor with the built in switch that connects to a rod- the only place I can think of to get one would be Ebay. Does your motor hum- but not start? If so, take off the belt, get it spinning by hand- then turn on the switch. If it starts running, you probably just need to change the starting capacitor on the motor. It's under the rounded cover on top. If it let out the smoke, it's probably shot. G.
I am restoring a Delta Homecraft 4" jointer looks just like yours. I am putting on a 1hp 3450 rpm motor but don't know what size pulley to put on the motor. The jointer has the 2 3/4x 5/8 bore which looks like the origional one. Also need a manual. Where do I get one? Thanks Dave
David Calson Dave, I believe they call for a motor running 1725RPM. The original pulley configuration should be 2 3/4" up top like you have, and a 6.5" on the motor (probably hard to come by)- which should yield around 4076RPM on the cutter pulley. If you're planning on running a 3450RPM motor and leave the 2 3/4 pulley on the cutter head; and if you ran a 3" pulley on the motor- you would get about 3760RPM at the cutter head pulley which might work out just fine. Here's a link to an online calculator where you can play with different arrangements to get what you need. I believe the target RPM at the cutter should be right around 4K RPM. www.csgnetwork.com/pulleybeltcalc.html As for the manual, you can find a pdf file at the following link. vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=5653 Hope this helps in some way and good luck with your project, G.
I'm surprised with all the Harbor Freight reviews, that you didn't use one of their green ACCU-LINK belts. I'm currently in the process of restroring a Craftsman 4 3/8" jointer. Wish it had an adjustable out feed and that fence.
You know what Hank, I totally forgot they sold the ACCU-LINK belts. I know why I haven't used one of theirs yet, but could have on this project. The first Fenner I bought for my table saw was in a kit from Woodcraft. It came with machined pulleys to replace the ones on my saw. At that time I wasn't really buying anything from HF. Putting one on my table saw is when I fell in love with them. Then I bought some Fenner's for one of my lathes and drill press. These were 3/8 wide so the HF belt wouldn't work. When I did my milling machine, they were 5/8 wide so HF was out there as well. This is the first 1/2 belt where I could have used one, but simply forgot they sold them. They seem to get rave reviews and come with 5' as apposed to the 4' from Woodcraft. Using a 25% off coupon, the HF belt could be had for 18.74 plus tax- not too bad! The fence and table are nice on this machine. Good luck with your restoration! If you go with the HF belt on it, please report back on what you think. Sorry so long and good luck, G.
***** Today I did a first test run on my jointer with the ACCU-LINK belt I bought from Harbor freight. It works great, very smooth and quiet. I only used a 20% off coupon which brought the cost down 19.99 plus tax. I'm saving my 25% off coupon for one of their 7x12 Mini Lathe.
hankus253 I'm not getting notifications of comments for some reason Hank. I just happened to see your reply when scanning my videos. Good info on the HF belt. I'm uploading a video now on the Fenner's and make reference to the HF belt since you reminded me they sold them. Not too bad on the cost and glad to hear it works great! As for saving the 25% off coupon, here is a link to a site where you can print off 25% coupons for use. It also has coupons you can print for free items. My store honors anything I take to them from this site- so take advantage if yours does! They are about half way down the page. slickdeals.net/f/1276399-harbor-freight-coupon-thread Thanks for the reply and good luck, G.
Thanks for answering my post right away. The motor has a 3 inch puley already this was not on the jointer when I got . I had the motor in my wood shop from an old table saw. I will try that first. Now do you know where I might get a manual or parts list. Also My serial number is BH4165 which I still can't find out what year it was made. Do you know any sites to go to other Old Vintage Machines? Dave
David Calson Dave, the 3 inch pulley on the motor should be about right as far as cutter speed providing you leave the 2 3/4" pulley on the cutter head. I put a link to the manual in my first post, but you may have missed it so here it is again. vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=5653 I can't help on the year, but the site I listed above might have some information on it. G.
@@ghostses I have a combination 9" Rockwell contractor saw that has the 4" deluxe jointer attached. The motor is 3450 rpm that has a 3" pulley to that 2 3/4" jointer pulley so your advice is correct.
thanks. today i got the exact same model for $60 at a Habitat for Humanity ReStore store. hoping i can get it running again. all it seems to need is a new switch and wire to the plug. not sure if it's the original motor or not. is there a way to tell? I don't have a manual. Upon further investigation, I found the manual and it calls for either a 1/3 or 1/2 HP motor and the motor on this one is only 1/4 HP, so I'm guessing I'll have to find another if it's underpowered. you say it should be in the 4000 RPM range? this motor only says 1750.
What a score Patrick! I've never seen any machines at my local ReStore. I could be wrong, but I believe an original motor would be tagged Rockwell or Delta. Search around vintagemachinery.org/ for a manual. Oh, I see now you found a manual but that site is great for vintage machines. The motor should be a 1725-1750 rpm motor. The pulley's installed will bring the cutter head RPM to around 4k. I can't remember the exact pulley arrangement they called for- but may have mentioned it in the video. If not in this video, I have several others posted related to this machine. Search my channel for them as they may be useful. Hope this helps! Good luck, G.
@@ghostses i got it running again after wiring up a new switch and making a better motor mount. need sharper blades. it cuts fine but the blades look dull and slightly gouged on one side. can i get new ones somewhere?
I assume you've received them by now. If so, and if you've tried them out- post a link to the ones you've purchased so others might benefit. Take care, G.
I remember it being a pain on mine Mark, but don't quite remember how it fully came apart. I know I started by backing off the gib screws and removing the gibs. There was a specific way to get the tables off but I don't recall what it was. If you don't have the manual- look for it on vintagemachinery.org It should have a parts breakdown to give you some insight on what it takes to get them off. Good luck, G.
Thanks John, I was jumping up and down at the time I got it. It's sad I've had it for so many years and am just getting it ready for use...lol. I'm years behind on my projects. All said and done, I think I have about $140 in it with the link belt, pulley, and wiring. Not too shabby if I say so myself. Take care, G.
I have what looks like the identical jointer. Can you give me any info on which bearings I need? I know they need to be replaced but i'm having trouble sourcing them. Thanks!
Robert Bezrutczyk I sure can Robert. These are the exact bearings I purchased and from the same seller. Providing you have the same jointer, these should work. Good luck, G.www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Delta-Rockwell-Milwaukee-4-Jointer-Cutter-Head-Bearings-Set-of-2-87502-/221071424030?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160
@@troymagnus6860 Measure yours Magnus, but these might work. G. www.amazon.com/Freud-Industrial-Planer-Jointer-C310/dp/B00004RK6L/ref=sr_1_2?crid=99RM9D4IVUUZ&dchild=1&keywords=4+inch+jointer+knives&qid=1609045583&sprefix=4+inch+jointer+%2Caps%2C195&sr=8-2
@@ghostses In HS i bought a Wurlitzer off someone's porch. It was rough so me and a friend salvaged it. 15in electromagnet spkr. Found another amp at a San Jose flea market.
That's cool. I'm not really sure on the year. You might check out vintagemachinery.org/ They have tons of information on old tools. There may be something there to help date them. Good luck, G.
hi every one, a couple of months ago got a Rockwell jointer model 37-200 runs beautifully, have a question for all you guys, does anyone knows how to dismount the front and back tables?? i will be shipping these overseas with other equipment I got , any comments, will appreciate all, yes I have the parts list and the user manual, previously I have take a part different wood working tools, I start on this one loosen the screws that holds the GIB to adjust the table, it work only to a point, cause then I found a big under the table nut that stops the part to slide out.thanks for your kind support Oscar
Oscar, hopefully someone will chime in with a definite answer. I'm not familiar with your model, but did have issues getting my tables off as well. They were hitting on the lead screw nuts as well. If my memory serves me correctly, I had to loosen the gib screws all the way then slide out the gibs. That gave me just enough space to wiggle things apart. Sorry I can't be of a greater help, but hope this helps in some way. Good luck, G.
***** thanks so much for your advise, I already release both gibs, but still not enough space, seems I will have to take all the assembly out.If these work I will came back and attach pictures,Bye now, thanks.
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Just stumbled on this video and overview. I received this exact same jointer from my dad who passed a few years back. I'm going through a restoration this summer... disassembly, cleaning and re-paint. Thank you for posting this.
Sorry for your loss. I hope it's helpful with getting yours going again. Good luck, G.
just bought a newer Rockwell (same model number) in a local auction for $85. found this video looking for how to replace the knives. thanks for posting these videos! very helpful!
I say you got a pretty good deal! My other videos should cover most of what you need to know. Good luck, G.
Hi G, Thanks for answering my post. I will use the three inch pulley. I am in the process of making my jointer stand. Thanks Again David Calson
David Calson No problem! Good luck building your stand, G.
Thanks for the the rundown. Just picked up the same model from and old friend. Going to get it restored.
No problem! Good luck with your project, G.
Nice find! And the repairs/upgrades you made to it are great. My shopsmith jointer attachment has the same dual fence adjustment and I also think that feature is great. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Mac! Funny you mention the shopsmith. I was just speaking to a friend a few days ago that might be picking one up with many attachments. Interesting the jointer has the same dual adjustments. This type of system has tons of versatility. Thanks for the info, G.
I LOVE it! I bought almost the exact same jointer from a guy in town for 50 bucks with what looks like a similar motor. No stand though. I had the same issue with the motor. Mine has a double shaft and I could just switched sides, but I'm building a rolling cart with my planer, belt sander, disc sander and my jointer all on it so the motor for my jointer ended up being flipped around the opposite way to keep it tucked under the stand to make room for dust collection under the jointer so it worked out for me. I did speed up the rpm a little on the cutter head. It worked OK, but for some reason, that particular vibration hurts my hands. I think I'm running 5500 rpm or so and it seems smoother to me and the sound of the cutting is less.... percussive? I haven't had any issues with anything heating up so I'll probably keep it this way.
BTW You aren't kidding about the strange 9/16 shaft. I bought a pully assuming it was half inch. I ended up just boring it out to 9/16. It thinned the wall of the bore a little bit but nothing crazy and it's not a super high torque machine so it should be fine.... *famous last words*
Great price Lloyd! Try running a link belt. They can take a lot of vibration out of belt driven machinery. If you do try one- be aware they are directional. If ran incorrectly- they can actually increase vibration. I run them on almost all of my machine tools and will run nothing else.
Yeah, a very strange bore size for sure. Why they didn't go with a standard size is beyond me. They probably could've used an off the shelf unit rather than having to produce an odd-ball. I imagine there was a reason- but I can't see it. Good luck with yours, G.
Very nice review! I have the 6" model that my father-in-law gave to me.
Thanks Daniel! I sure would have like to find a deal on a 6" model like I did on this 4", but I'm not complaining one bit! You certainly can't beat the deal you got on yours. Good luck with it, G.
You mention liking that specific belt. I just acquired the exact same model and am wondering about the belt specs..where to buy, etc..
Larry, I believe I got it off eBay, but it's been years ago. Here's a link to one on Amazon. I didn't price shop and don't recall if 4' is long enough if your setup is just like mine. Harbor Freight also sells one that is 5' long. I've never used theirs but hear they work great. I'll link to that one as well. Good luck, G.
www.amazon.com/Power-Twist-Plus-Link-V-Belt/dp/B08D8ZL9PM/ref=asc_df_B08D8ZL9PM/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459541631699&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5747656277895437396&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1024324&hvtargid=pla-974521764408&psc=1
www.harborfreight.com/vibration-free-link-belt-43771.html
I enjoyed your presentation. What a great old machine. Just a question on bearing lubrication. Do you have any recommendations or are they sealed ?
Joseph, they're sealed bearings. Take care, G.
I ended up getting new pulleys for the jointer I’m fixing because the unbalanced pulleys caused so much vibration, it’s definitely something to watch for when getting a used Delta Rockwell jointer.
That it is Alex! A link belt also helps with vibration. Take care, G.
You have perfect timing. I picked up a 1938 6" delta 36-207 several months ago. I replaced the bearings then but haven't got back to finish it up. Need to replace the head pulley (it crumbled to pieces when I removed it), sharpen the knives and reinstall he head. I planned to do it this weekend and then saw your videos.
I'm going to use the rust remover you suggest and sharpen and set the knives using the methods you demonstrated.
Couple questions. You mentioned you had a new set of knives - where did you find them? How did you determine head rpm with varying size pulleys. I pick up a replacement for the head pulley, but it isn't an exact match.
Thanks for the videos -
Very cool John. Sounds like your project is going about like mine- but mine took about 5yrs...lol.
My head pulley has an odd 9/16 bore so check yours. 9/16 is extremely odd and trying to find a pulley might be difficult if yours is the same size. Ebay may be your only option, or using a bore reducer if one can be found.
The Rust Free product I highly recommend. Let me know how it works for you.
The new set of knives came with my jointer when I purchased it. I bet you could find a new set on Amazon, or even Ebay.
If you can find a copy of the manual for your machine, it should state what RPM the cutter head should be running at. I would guess 42-4500 rpm- but confirm if you can.
From there, visit this website and play around with the pulley diameters to achieve the proper configuration. Some tips on the calculator.
The pulley center is not required unless you need to find a belt length.
Tick RPM Large since this is the motor pulley.
Enter 1725 if that's the RPM of your motor
Play with the pulley sizes to get the rpm you're looking for.
Click calculate between each change to update the results.
www.blocklayer.com/pulley-belteng.aspx
Hope this helps and let me know how things turn out! Good luck, G.
Thanks very much for the informative video.
No problem Natalie! I'm glad you found it useful. I have other videos related to this jointer as well. Dig around my channel of you like. Take care, G.
Hi G, I got your link to Rockwell's 4" Jointer and it looks just like mind and it has a parts diagram which is what I was looking for. Thanks Again Dave
David Calson Good deal! G.
I’ve got this joiner too. The cutter head pulley outside diameter is 2”. When you refer to pulley diameter are you going of outside or inside diameter? Just want to make sure I get the right size. For the motor pulley. Thanks!
I believe the outside diameter Seth. Good luck, G.
Hello Sir.
I just found your channel. I just picked up the same joiner for $35 and everything works, but when I power it on the cutting blade runs backwards to how it should cut. It has cloth wiring coming out of the beast of a motor. Not sure how to rewire it to work properly. Like you said, trying to reverse the wires resulted in a lot of sparks... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...
Larry, if it's mounted on a bench, you can turn the motor 180 degrees to make the cutter head spin in the proper direction. As for re-wiring the motor so it turns in the other direction, you will need to dig to see if it's possible for your motor. Take care, G.
@@ghostses - Thank you. Appreciate the tips. I had thought about turning the motor 180°, which is doable, I’ll just have to add support to the motor as turning it will leave it off the frame.
@@LarryLeesBees Good deal! G.
A great Jointer/planner class. That don't build them like that anymore!
Thanks Mark, and I agree! Good luck, G.
My next door neighbor's husband passed away and she just wanted alot of his old stuff gone. My wife and I helped her out quite a bit and she just gave me the 8" table saw and 4" jointer just like this one for free. What size motor did you use for this one on the video? the motor on the table saw is a 1/2 horse. I was just figuring that the motor for the table saw was the same one for the jointer but wasn't sure. Haven't tried it yet. Thanks for the video.
Dave, I it's a 3rd horse motor and seems to have plenty of power. Hope this helps, G.
that is one damn fine tool.
Well thanks Bob. I'm almost ashamed I've had it for years and never finished getting it running. I bought it to make rails and stiles, and face frames for my kitchen remodel that has still not been started. I'm now back on track and gearing up for the work. Thanks and take care, G.
> Hi G, Thanks for the information you gave me. I do have a three inch
> pulley on my motor but thought it was going to be to fast for running at
> 3450rpm so I thought a 6.5 pulley would slow it down to half. I will try
it
> first with the three inch like you said. I first half to make a table to
> put my four inch jointer on and mount my motor under it. Looking for plans
> for a small table to build but can'tfind any place on the web for plans.
> Have any places to send me to. Thanks Dave Calson
David Calson Dave, putting a larger pulley on the motor will actually speed up the cutter head. Based on your configuration, a 3" on the motor should do it.
Sorry, I don't have any idea on where to go to get plans or ideas for a table. I would try to make something that looks similar to the original stands. Good luck, G.
Another great score, G. Nice old machine...especially the fence. Like your idea for the Gibs! Cheap pulleys are always a pain and never straight. I have a piece of 1"Al plate that I use to straighten them. If you lay them on the plate and use a little dead blow or rubber mallet with light taps you can bring them in better...but not perfect. Sometimes I pinch an old belt in them to keep from tweaking the channel. Like you said...Old pulleys are the best if not trashed. Think you need to get a bigger shop, Bud! LoL
Indeed! The fence is very cool. The gib thumbscrews will be a good upgrade. I'm not sure why they didn't do this in the beginning as it seems natural to me- but may have had something to do with a bean counter. I'm not sure if a new jointer would have locking gibs/tables or not- I've never really looked at them. Good tips on straightening out wonky pulleys. As yes, I REALLY need a bigger shop. I have the goods to do most things, but lack the space to do anything easily. I manage, but it's getting tougher as I drag in new things. Take care, G.
Just found this video it was very helpful. My rear table doesn't move I need to remove it an service it. Any suggestions.
John, I'm assuming you that this exact model. The first thing I would do is loosen the gib screws then try to get it to move. You might also need to spray things down with a penetrating oil- the nut, screw, and ways. Give things some time and try not to force anything. I hope this helps, G.
which way do the gibs go that hold the blades (3) on a 37-290 jointer? the grove up or down?
anyone
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Again, Up. Up. th-cam.com/video/LENyfLOFmpQ/w-d-xo.html
Really informative, thanks. Two questions: what is the procedure to make the tables co-planar? Also, my tables are pretty beat up - what is the best way to restore the surface? Thanks!
amherstguitar Thanks! I have several videos related to this jointer that might give you more information. Please watch them if you like. Good luck, G.
Cleaning the tables:
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Cleaning the cutter head:
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Sharpening the knives:
th-cam.com/video/2rGWTwoA1G8/w-d-xo.html
Setting the knives:
th-cam.com/video/LENyfLOFmpQ/w-d-xo.html
Simple dust collection:
th-cam.com/video/pDE0HINjqAo/w-d-xo.html
I just picked up same model from an 80 year old wood floor man. Replaced the cord but the feed adjusters are all stuck. I’ve soaked them as best as I could with penetrating oil but only got the fence adjuster to free. Any suggestions?
Robert, try remove the gib screws and removing the gibs. That should allow you to start breaking things free. Good luck, G.
Thank you for a great video. I picked up one of those joiners about three years ago and have been using it a bit. The motor on mine just quit working and I need to fix or replace it. Any idea where I can find one. The switch is still working.
No problem James! If you have an original motor with the built in switch that connects to a rod- the only place I can think of to get one would be Ebay. Does your motor hum- but not start? If so, take off the belt, get it spinning by hand- then turn on the switch. If it starts running, you probably just need to change the starting capacitor on the motor. It's under the rounded cover on top. If it let out the smoke, it's probably shot. G.
I am restoring a Delta Homecraft 4" jointer looks just like yours. I am putting on a 1hp 3450 rpm motor but don't know what size pulley to put on the motor. The jointer has the 2 3/4x 5/8 bore which looks like the origional one. Also need a manual. Where do I get one? Thanks Dave
David Calson Dave, I believe they call for a motor running 1725RPM. The original pulley configuration should be 2 3/4" up top like you have, and a 6.5" on the motor (probably hard to come by)- which should yield around 4076RPM on the cutter pulley. If you're planning on running a 3450RPM motor and leave the 2 3/4 pulley on the cutter head; and if you ran a 3" pulley on the motor- you would get about 3760RPM at the cutter head pulley which might work out just fine.
Here's a link to an online calculator where you can play with different arrangements to get what you need. I believe the target RPM at the cutter should be right around 4K RPM.
www.csgnetwork.com/pulleybeltcalc.html
As for the manual, you can find a pdf file at the following link.
vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=5653
Hope this helps in some way and good luck with your project, G.
I'm surprised with all the Harbor Freight reviews, that you didn't use one of their green ACCU-LINK belts. I'm currently in the process of restroring a Craftsman 4 3/8" jointer. Wish it had an adjustable out feed and that fence.
You know what Hank, I totally forgot they sold the ACCU-LINK belts. I know why I haven't used one of theirs yet, but could have on this project. The first Fenner I bought for my table saw was in a kit from Woodcraft. It came with machined pulleys to replace the ones on my saw. At that time I wasn't really buying anything from HF. Putting one on my table saw is when I fell in love with them. Then I bought some Fenner's for one of my lathes and drill press. These were 3/8 wide so the HF belt wouldn't work. When I did my milling machine, they were 5/8 wide so HF was out there as well. This is the first 1/2 belt where I could have used one, but simply forgot they sold them. They seem to get rave reviews and come with 5' as apposed to the 4' from Woodcraft. Using a 25% off coupon, the HF belt could be had for 18.74 plus tax- not too bad! The fence and table are nice on this machine. Good luck with your restoration! If you go with the HF belt on it, please report back on what you think. Sorry so long and good luck, G.
***** Today I did a first test run on my jointer with the ACCU-LINK belt I bought from Harbor freight. It works great, very smooth and quiet. I only used a 20% off coupon which brought the cost down 19.99 plus tax. I'm saving my 25% off coupon for one of their 7x12 Mini Lathe.
hankus253 I'm not getting notifications of comments for some reason Hank. I just happened to see your reply when scanning my videos. Good info on the HF belt. I'm uploading a video now on the Fenner's and make reference to the HF belt since you reminded me they sold them. Not too bad on the cost and glad to hear it works great! As for saving the 25% off coupon, here is a link to a site where you can print off 25% coupons for use. It also has coupons you can print for free items. My store honors anything I take to them from this site- so take advantage if yours does! They are about half way down the page.
slickdeals.net/f/1276399-harbor-freight-coupon-thread
Thanks for the reply and good luck, G.
What a nice old tool. They sure don't make them like the used to.
Thanks! I would agree, they don't make them like they used to- but they should! Take care, G.
Thanks for answering my post right away. The motor has a 3 inch puley already this was not on the jointer when I got . I had the motor in my wood shop from an old table saw. I will try that first. Now do you know where I might get a manual or parts list. Also My serial number is BH4165 which I still can't find out what year it was made. Do you know any sites to go to other Old Vintage Machines? Dave
David Calson Dave, the 3 inch pulley on the motor should be about right as far as cutter speed providing you leave the 2 3/4" pulley on the cutter head.
I put a link to the manual in my first post, but you may have missed it so here it is again.
vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=5653
I can't help on the year, but the site I listed above might have some information on it. G.
@@ghostses I have a combination 9" Rockwell contractor saw that has the 4" deluxe jointer attached. The motor is 3450 rpm that has a 3" pulley to that 2 3/4" jointer pulley so your advice is correct.
@@lym3204 Good deal! G.
love the "stash of things" comment;)
LOL! Thanks. Good luck, G.
thanks. today i got the exact same model for $60 at a Habitat for Humanity ReStore store. hoping i can get it running again. all it seems to need is a new switch and wire to the plug. not sure if it's the original motor or not. is there a way to tell? I don't have a manual. Upon further investigation, I found the manual and it calls for either a 1/3 or 1/2 HP motor and the motor on this one is only 1/4 HP, so I'm guessing I'll have to find another if it's underpowered. you say it should be in the 4000 RPM range? this motor only says 1750.
What a score Patrick! I've never seen any machines at my local ReStore. I could be wrong, but I believe an original motor would be tagged Rockwell or Delta. Search around vintagemachinery.org/ for a manual. Oh, I see now you found a manual but that site is great for vintage machines. The motor should be a 1725-1750 rpm motor. The pulley's installed will bring the cutter head RPM to around 4k. I can't remember the exact pulley arrangement they called for- but may have mentioned it in the video. If not in this video, I have several others posted related to this machine. Search my channel for them as they may be useful. Hope this helps! Good luck, G.
@@ghostses i got it running again after wiring up a new switch and making a better motor mount. need sharper blades. it cuts fine but the blades look dull and slightly gouged on one side. can i get new ones somewhere?
i did find some new blades on Amazon for about $18 + another $7 shipping. good reviews too. took a chance.
Good Deal Patrick! I have posted in the comments a link to some knives on Amazon. G.
I assume you've received them by now. If so, and if you've tried them out- post a link to the ones you've purchased so others might benefit. Take care, G.
How the heck do you take the tables off? I just picked one of these up and they are so gummed up its nearly impossible to get them to move.
I remember it being a pain on mine Mark, but don't quite remember how it fully came apart. I know I started by backing off the gib screws and removing the gibs. There was a specific way to get the tables off but I don't recall what it was. If you don't have the manual- look for it on vintagemachinery.org
It should have a parts breakdown to give you some insight on what it takes to get them off. Good luck, G.
Awesome ebay score. Congrats.
Thanks John, I was jumping up and down at the time I got it. It's sad I've had it for so many years and am just getting it ready for use...lol. I'm years behind on my projects. All said and done, I think I have about $140 in it with the link belt, pulley, and wiring. Not too shabby if I say so myself. Take care, G.
I have what looks like the identical jointer. Can you give me any info on which bearings I need? I know they need to be replaced but i'm having trouble sourcing them. Thanks!
Robert Bezrutczyk I sure can Robert. These are the exact bearings I purchased and from the same seller. Providing you have the same jointer, these should work. Good luck, G.www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Delta-Rockwell-Milwaukee-4-Jointer-Cutter-Head-Bearings-Set-of-2-87502-/221071424030?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160
***** Thanks! Have a good one.
Robert Bezrutczyk
No problem Robert! Good luck, G.
I have the same jointer from my grandpa can you do a video on how to replace the blades from the spindle
Magnus, here is a video of me installing and adjusting them. Hope this helps, G.
th-cam.com/video/LENyfLOFmpQ/w-d-xo.html
Thank you is there any where I can buy a new set of knives or a off brand that will fit it
@@troymagnus6860 Measure yours Magnus, but these might work. G.
www.amazon.com/Freud-Industrial-Planer-Jointer-C310/dp/B00004RK6L/ref=sr_1_2?crid=99RM9D4IVUUZ&dchild=1&keywords=4+inch+jointer+knives&qid=1609045583&sprefix=4+inch+jointer+%2Caps%2C195&sr=8-2
What's that amp on the floor. Looks like a wurlitzer.
It is John. This was one of three Wurlitzer amps I rebuilt for my dad. This one was out of his 1015 (I think). Good eye! Take care, G.
@@ghostses In HS i bought a Wurlitzer off someone's porch. It was rough so me and a friend salvaged it. 15in electromagnet spkr. Found another amp at a San Jose flea market.
@@johnclayton1026 That's cool John! G.
I have the exact same one. I need a few parts for it. Where can i purchase the parts if possible?
Jose, your best bet would be to look on eBay for good used parts. Good luck, G.
Just got one. Don't know from what year, 50's?
That's cool. I'm not really sure on the year. You might check out vintagemachinery.org/
They have tons of information on old tools. There may be something there to help date them. Good luck, G.
hi every one, a couple of months ago got a Rockwell jointer model 37-200 runs beautifully, have a question for all you guys, does anyone knows how to dismount the front and back tables?? i will be shipping these overseas with other equipment I got , any comments, will appreciate all, yes I have the parts list and the user manual, previously I have take a part different wood working tools, I start on this one loosen the screws that holds the GIB to adjust the table, it work only to a point, cause then I found a big under the table nut that stops the part to slide out.thanks for your kind support Oscar
Oscar, hopefully someone will chime in with a definite answer. I'm not familiar with your model, but did have issues getting my tables off as well. They were hitting on the lead screw nuts as well. If my memory serves me correctly, I had to loosen the gib screws all the way then slide out the gibs. That gave me just enough space to wiggle things apart. Sorry I can't be of a greater help, but hope this helps in some way. Good luck, G.
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thanks so much for your advise, I already release both gibs, but still not enough space, seems I will have to take all the assembly out.If these work I will came back and attach pictures,Bye now, thanks.
Oscar La Fuente
OK, good luck with it! G.
Good deal. A new jointer cost you $500.00 or more
I agree Roland. I got lucky on this and it seems like it's going to work like a dream! Thanks, G.
Your RPM's are a little higher than rated, at 4400-4500 rather than 4200, but it seems that it may run better being too fast than too slow.
Possibly so, I can't say for sure. But yes, it does work great for whatever the actual RPM is. Good luck, G.
Does anyone want a Rockwell Delta model 37-110
I'm sure someone would. What are you asking for it?