Hey kerry. In vegas now and used your unmodified system yesterday- + 500. Game was a bit fast for my rookie run and missed a few bets but was happy. Came back to room and watched video again - and passed out. Day two - realized my mistakes and had all bets pre set in rack on come out - played just under two hours- bought for 300 walked with 1700 after tip. Dealer complemented the system and if i had a question she would say " if your sticking to your system you would do this" and help me out . The dc hedge keeps you at the table as people come and go - im a beliver bro ty for your post !
Went to vegas the last 2 days playing this strategy and won $1290. I played 9 different sessions and only lost once ($45). I was betting $5 pass line, $75 DC, and $10 across with $5 come bets. The system works very well! Thank you!
PRES. BARACK H. OBAMA its always luck but this system works well to reduce house edge. If you’re a serious long time Craps player who has tried various strategies, and you haven’t tried this, it’s worth running your own simulations since you’re skeptical. Obviously no strategy is guaranteed, but you should only play only if you can afford to lose, plus you have to have a large enough bankroll. I have used this strategy many times and it’s not always a winner, but certainly has reduced overall “bad losses” and overall I am up with this strategy...over time...with ups and downs. And I have kept track for the past 4 years wins and losses with every time I go to the table regardless of if I win or lose. You don’t have to believe me or the guy who did the video. Do your own research.
@@mendonfire11981 i used this strategy in a web based game and won big time. im still skeptical to try it out at the casino but next time i have 300 i can afford to lose im gonna put it up and see what i end up with
I've tried this strategy (actually with a little variation) twice in NV and won. the first time I started with $200 and won $410 (cashed $610), the second time I started with $400 and won $360 (cashed $760). The 2 things I did differently was I placed a $25 DC bet (instead of $75), then placed odds on the lay. The second thing was I didn't bet the place bets, I just started playing come bets. This actually protected me from the quick 7 roll early on. Thanks for the tip.......it worked for me!
When doing a come bet after point is rolled. Wouldn't it be better to have some chips on 12 and 2 so you still make money on snake eyes when doing come bet.
This looks like a good strategy if the table is hot!! After playing many rounds (a $100 at a time) I have found the best way for me is to play a 5 count. The reason for the 5 count is because dice like blackjack (I don't card count) run through cycles. Either you win quickly (hot table) or the house gradually grinds you down. If you keep track of the number of times the dice are rolled and make the numbers (I only play the pass line and come) before crapping out it, will amaze you. I see more money lost before I reach the five count than any other time on the table. Yes, there are runs of the dice when everyone is making money even when the house has the highest advantage. After that hot run is gone your now reaching into your pocket hoping it will happen again. Keeping track with the five count is amazing. This is not a sure proof way of winning but it a way to significantly reduce your losses so when the table does turn hot you'll have money and are ready to bet and have fun. Fun to me is reducing the risk of losing and winning more often!! I have had many deals ask me what I was doing as I pile up the chips (sometimes). Sometimes it can take 5, 7, 10 or more shooters before I make the five count and start betting. It does take time but the time goes by quicker than you think. Yes I do loose but I reduce my risk significantly. Think about it? You make place bets, pass line bets, and come bets with odds, The number is 5 and two other numbers are rolled and 7 out. Dang!! Your repeat this cycle and before you know it your down your bank roll or going to the ATM machine so you can catch the next hot roll!! How the five count works: the dice have to hit 4,5,6,8,9,or 10 five times. 1,2,3,7,11,or 12 do not count as part of the five count. If a seven comes out you start over from the beginning. Lets begin: a 5 is rolled one count, a 6 is rolled two count, now 11 still two count, 3 craps still two count, 4 three count, 7 out, starting over:12 is rolled still no count, 11 still no count, 6 one count, 9 two count, 8 three count, 8 four count, 11 still four count, 3 craps still four count, 7 out... Once I get to the five count I place money on the pass line/take odds and a come bet. Now my betting starts. Its up to you how many numbers you want working. You'll be amazed how many time you'll get all the numbers loaded up and make a little money or a lot of money. Only the cycle of the dice will determine your luck. Next time you play, try it before betting and see what happens, good luck!!
Your "5 count" strategy is a fallacy. You can flip a quarter and wait for heads to flip consecutively three times, but the odds of heads flipping the very next time is still 50%. The same applies to the craps table. Waiting for a "5 count" does not change anything. All the odds are still firmly in place at exactly what they were before the "5 count" occurred. It doesn't reduce your risk at all and is based solely on delusion and superstition. The only thing it may do is allow you to risk less money in any given time frame. However, when you do lose, you'll just have wasted more time, to lose the same amount of money.
Brian Riley Thanks for at least reading my post. I did read a book about playing this way over 20 years ago. I don't have the book anymore but I use this way to play successfully. You are correct the odds are still what they are and they will never change. Dice do run in cycles: hot and cold tables. I wish you the best and win a bunch of money on the craps table however you play.
The BIGGEST flaw for this style is that on that "Biggest Bet" part. Right after the come out roll, where you have like 85 bucks "to lose" if you 7 there, you lose it. So if you get your dont come bet, on let's say 8... and then an 8 rolls, you lose your dont come, and then when you try to reset your dont come, if you roll a 7 you lose literally everything. I've tried this, and rolling a 7 on your dont come roll definitely destroys your bankroll
This is honestly the most interesting, fun, and (Whether you think craps strategy is a myth or not) lucrative betting strategy I have played yet since starting craps a month ago and exhausting every type of strategy I come across. It feels so aggressive but I feel way less "Oh no" when the dice settles with this than when I am playing some kind of iron cross bet or progressive press strategy. Sim'd 7 shooters so far and 5/7 shooters I profited from, with 4/5 of those shooters making 100$+ walk away profit for me with a 200$ bankroll (I was using 10$ start on pass followed by 50$ on my DC but other than that near identical unit per unit strategy. Thank you man this is some genius play
tried this yesterday, turned 200 into 600 in 2 hours at my local casino. dealers gave me a tough time, but once they figured out my strategy they off-on'd my bets for me. i was down for probably the first hour due to heavy losses on my initial DC bet, but once the table warmed up, i was rolling
Thanks. You are the first person I've heard of to try it besides me. It seems like as long as you can: B.) you have the discipline to stick to the strategy C.) have the discipline to CASH OUT when you're up D.) have the discipline to only play a predetermined set maximum during your session you have a good chance of winning. This system doesn't require the table to be hot or cold (since you hedge all your bets with the DC, but to win it does require that at some point you get a decent shooter.
All these negative comments... with the right patience, bank management and knowing when to quit. It is very possible to come out a winner. I won thousands in casinos with craps. Probably the fairest game in the casino if you know what you are doing. The thing is, casinos pray on greed, hopes, impulse and addiction, so in the long run they are the winner.. knowing how to go home when you are hot and making money is a very difficult thing to do.
You don't have to quit working systems when you are "hot." Take card counting for example, you know it works because you quit only when the Casino throws your ass out for winning too much.
@@leif09123g card counting no longer works for any big money in casinos. They use multiple decks, bet limits and Reshuffle before all cards are delt from the shoe.
@@ericmadeoftin8206 Didn't say anything about big money. Simply pointing out the fact that 'if the math is on your side' you don't have to quit. Eventually, you'll walk away positive, not by massive amounts, just that you'll end ahead. The only two games I know of that you can do this on are blackjack and video poker, both are a grind and neither will make you filthy rich. Not recommending anyone quit their day job to make it rich as a card counter or video poker player.
Saw a guy use this in a cruise casino. He really cleaned several nights. He was very humble and admitted it's possible to lose quickly if you x-out on that 2nd roll. I tried it in Vegas once, but couldn't remember all the "rules" like hedging the yo, so it didn't work for me the only time I tried it. Going to give it another try soon.
i literally studied this video, played it to the tee, hedging 11's when point is off, all of it (that came in clutch one time and made it all worth the previous hedge bets) Anyways...... it worked. i turned $100 (on a $5 table) into $300 after 40 minutes of play or so. thanks, i have a craps strategy when in vegas
Yes, thanks to this video i turned from losing $200 on friday night to be up $1700 by monday morning in reno nv. Awesome stragedy. I didn't play the DC though, however I did use his betting stragedy and using the "off" A LOT. That saved me so many times. I used the "off" every 7 rolls. On hot shooters i let it ride 10 rolls. I didnt lose any money for a good hour. It was crazy. Red $5 chips turned into greens and greens into blacks so quick!!!
at around 8:30 you can hedge your bet on the 9 by putting down a field bet, which not only hedges all ways to roll a 9, but also gives you all the outside combinations on that roll.
I play this way exclusively and I do admit that I don't win every time, but I DO win more often than when I lose. Nothing will every be perfect and the house always wins, but this does give a player a fighting chance.
Same experience here. I’ve won as much as $2400 with a starting bank of $300. Most times I win more than I lose and leave with more money in my pocket than I initially had as my bank. But I’ve also had more than a few times where I lost the initial $300 bank in less than 30 minutes of play.
I’ve used this system and had that happen. If it happens early enough in your play (as it did to me twice), then it’s best to just walk away and call it a day. Throwing good money after bad is always a bad idea. Most times I make more money than I bank but only if I get past the first 30 minutes of play.
Good strategy, good advice. Don’t be greedy, stay the course. I haven’t brought down the house (new gambler, small bets), but I haven’t left in the negative yet either.
I am not a big gambler but I tried this, I couldn't keep up with the bets, but I was close, started with 150, played for 1 hour, got lucky and won 1175 dollars
LOL glad to hear it worked for you. Just out of curiosity besides the Lay on 4 and 10, did you deviate from the way I was doing it and if so how? And also did you do it on a $10 min table or different?
I like this. Only numbers you're scared of is ; 1. 7 on 1st dont come roll 2. after the dont come pt is established-the dont come bet point # repeating -can try to hedge with hardways if you can Only thing I would change is put some money on 7 on 1st dont come roll (maybe $15 on 7) I'd be scared of losing $90. Also you can maybe add more money on the comebets Why win only 85 when 7 hits and lose over $100 every time? Bet $30 on 1st comebet win $105 lose $105- at least 1st roll-then keep rolling $10-$30 comebets Youre a genius kerry smyth great strategy 99.9 % of people would never think of this
I used this in Vegas last week and won $1200 in one session and $300 in another. Paid for my trip, some shows and fun money for my wife and daughter. The table was extremely hot for players and my wife even came out ahead using her pass line & buying 6&8 strategy. Even on not so hot tables i was able to tread water. When the table gets hot it pays to up the bets.
Just wanna say I went up over $1k using this strategy the other night. Really appreciate the video and explaining, when the shooters are cold you tend to stay even and when the shooter is hot you definitely keep going up!
Just tried this at my local Casino, im in Florida so all we have now are the bobble tables (reminds me of the board game trouble) but none the less its "random" i brought 800. lost my first 300 then played the 500 flipped it to 2300 (plus comps) when the DC is on 4 or 10 i lay x1 or x2 depending on my bank roll hands down if you have the bankroll this is a really nice strategy
Went to the local casino, I'm a BJ player but saw this and thought I'd give it a try. Wow! the game moves fast! First time at a craps table! Was up $400 and before I knew what happened I was down $100 but had a blast! I forgot to take down my don't pass lay and it was down hill from there! Lots of moving parts and I learned not to ever touch the stick man when trying to get his attention! LoL! I'm going to drill down on this and get back to the table, most fun I've had in a long time. Thanks!
You know how many times I have been at a table and have witnessed: point+7 point+7 point+7 point+7, I have seen an entire table devastated by having this occur 6+ times in a row, your risk of ruin is only 4 times, this is a losing strategy. A much better strategy is to start Don't Pass w/ odds, enough money to cover 2x $24 bets on 6 & 8 then if 6 or 8 hit, take down both bets and optionally remove your odds on Don't Pass. i.e. Hit and Run. Also, you had $7k but walked away with $4k. If $4k was your stop-win condition, take down that other $3k first...before losing it!!
It's an awesome system and the exact way I play. Took a few trips and got some hard lessons on how to deal with dealers and players and PSOs but I got it down and now I am a winner!! It amazes me and everyone around me that no matter how much I lose I still grow my bankroll. I feel very confident about playing craps now. and the best thing I like the most is I have learned to be a very good shooter. Can't wait to get back to the casino. I got a couple tweaks I am ready to try out.
I will be in Vegas Friday. Staying downtown. I would tip you if you wanted to meet up and go hit a table together. I have been practing on a few different apps and I seem t be getting the hang of the system and I actually feel this will be easier to do on a real table because u don't have to drag and drop so much. Plus I am confident in my rolling skills.
Thank you for your advice. I took a similar approach however I never bet against the 7 at any point. I went to Macau last week, played on a 5xodds table just like most in Vegas. And sure enough stood at a very uncrowded table (because Asians aren't obsessed with this game like we Americans are), and turned 4000 HK into 40,000 -- in about 12 hours time. So I 1)kept a minimum bet on the hardways all the time. 2) Only bet on the dark side. If the point was 6 or an 8 I removed my bet and just did Dont Come betting. 3) Went max odds on 5 and 9, but the 4 and 10 -- I added a Lay bet.
Played this with only double or triple odds last night for about 2 hours and left up 200. The stickmen where I was at helped me out, and they actually liked the fact that my bets were consistent and said they prefer that. For any doubters you can see the hedge working. I was up almost 500 but got pointed out on my DC several times in a row and was actually down to only about +20 or so. Hung in there stuck to the system and pumped back up. Nothing is 100% but this flat out will keep you at the table, save getting head cracked out the gate (which could definitely happen), catch a hot shooter and ur gonna make money. Even lucked out on a yo 11 on a fresh DC too. I was putting those down just based on feel. Side note, I probably tipped out around 200, 10 or 25 at a time with a 50 spot at the end (25 each) for the two guys that were sticking the whole time I was at the table. I was literally a few busted DCs from being up alot more.
ok everyone - I have played this "system" for 2 years now and have tweaked it some to remove the come bets. Before playing this system we used to play the pass line, max odds and then place the numbers across. 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10 (less the point of course). Now we play the point $25 then make a $175 dont bet, then place the remaining numbers across at $25 per plus the odds on the line. While we dont win much on a hot table, we dont loose much on a clod table either. What we do get is HUGE COMPS. Granted playing for comps is not the best way to do Vegas but I can tell you this system also allows you to stand at a table for 1hr or more and not keep pumping $$ into the game. We get food, rooms, shows, reserved seating in the sports books, etc now that our play is rated at $400 -$500 per roll whereas before we were rated at $150 or less per roll.
That story is pretty much what I have experienced personally. The perks you get for comps is amazing. I get free flights to Vegas, free rooms at various hotels for up to 16 consecutive nights and he never pays a penny for food. He also gets free tickets to various shows and other entertainment. So yeah don't discount the comps!!
Aren't the come best 'safe' though if you 7 out? Since you use house money for that any ways isn't it worth it? New player trying to get to grips.. thanks
Okay my experience report: I just played this at the casino on a $10 min table. Hey! It's kinda stressful with $75 out there and hoping they don't roll a 7. But anyway, I lost the $75 then I Martingale the 75, and with a couple of don't comes, not even many come bets I was up $500 in less than 30min.. so it's risky, but it freaking worked like a charm.. ill keep using this system for sure.
If you get past the roll on the "Don't Come" bet, then the "Don't" bet hedges the "Come" with odds or "Place" bets, and any streak regardless of how short, will win you money. The problem occurs if you roll a seven when you put the "Don't Come" bet down. You would then lose the $80 on up to $1k that was being put down on it.
I forgot to mention that rolling an eleven right after placing the "Don't Come" bet will also give a big loss, as rolling a seven will. This happens 22 percent of the time or almost a quarter of the time. It happens in streaks, and in this case, he almost never hit a seven or eleven directly after placing the large "Don't Come" bets.
I think this is a good option as one of your possible betting options to use on the table. I have been practicing on an app on my phone, sometimes good other times not. Last week at a casino I did not have the guts to fully implement it as I play on $5 tables with $100, the times I did have a DC it helped me stay in the game a little longer. Last night I went in to play with $250 using the system fully. I was up to $500 then down to $150. My DC varied between $50 and $70 depending on table 'Feel" if a shooter got hot I bet with them and did not replace my DC typically after 2 DC losses. When placing my DC I hedged with $5-Yo and $6 Hop -7, by the end of the night it was $6-Yo and $9 Hop-7. I thought it worked well and I played for over 3hrs and left with $500 for +$300 on my first trial by fire. Will see if the streak on this method continues. Typically a Pass line and 2 Come bets player.
I didnt know how to play craps a few days ago...I had a casino trip planned and wanted to learn. I watched this video 2x. I went to the casino and was pretty nervous, and really didn't know proper table etiquette . The employees straightened me out after awhile. I made a few mistakes here and there, but walked away with over 230$ profit. I played for over a solid hour. THANK YOU!!! if you have any other tips or improvements please let me know cause I'm planning a trip to see my father and we are gonna hit a casino while there
Same here, I also did not know how to play. I was there for CES and my friend's buddy showed me how to play. The next day I learned proper craps table etiquette from a player at The Wynn, still have more to learn but I walked away with the same amount as you did. Fun game, great energy if you play with fun people.
Can you please do another video of this strategy so it can give us other instances. We need too see what you do when the point is hit. Thanks again for this video.
All these people saying thiss strategy doesn't work must be missing something....ive succeded MULTIPLE times using this method. MAKE SURE you all are following exactly like this man says in the video. If you roll a seven on your second roll it happens..its called perseverance.
Jake Hotchkiss Then you got lucky, just like anyone else that plays craps and wins. ANY system can win once in a while. All that has to happen to lose money with this system is a 7 rolling on the 2nd roll (a 1 out of 6 occurrence) or the number where your Don't Come bet landed to roll again and that happens a LOT.
Kody Selasky First and foremost you must get that 1 in 6 occurrence of the seven out of your head! Almost every book on the market about craps is coughing up the same incomplete and disinformation about probability about craps!! I'll try to explain why. Now I'm probably gonna get a bunch of hate comments from every dice player in the world but bare with me on this. These facts are in corroboration with what M.I.T. has stated about dice probabilities. THE FACT IS: There is 1 seven in 4.33 rolls! (Omg..he didn't just say that?) Well, yes I did! Dice are cubes, meaning they have 4 sides per face therefore on any one roll of ONE DIE there is 24 possible outcomes(6 faces times 4 edges)! Now remember, ignore the fact that each face is showing up 4 times..look how the result is changing on the side of the die, this fact CAN NOT be ignore for it is utmost relevance! [ The math fractions can not be reduced like you were doing a normal ' fraction reduction' calculation, because each edge of a side has an equal probability of being in any position when a die lands after a toss!]Therefore, there are 24 times 24 outcomes with 2 dice on any one roll, which is 576 possible combinations!(or more easily understood as 96 times 6=576!) The 7 will be 18.75% of all the rolls! In RANDOM ROLLS (over time)[OF PERFECT DICE]96 rolls 18 will be sevens, 13 will be a six, 13 will be a eight, 10 will be a five, 10 will be a nine, 8 will be a four, 8 will be a ten, the 2,3, 11, and 12 see if you can figure those out for yourself. From here you can have a field day with interpolations of casino edges, casino skimming on the place bets and come bets odds payouts, on and on..Very few craps dealers even know this stuff, maybe they don't care? Even most pit bosses don't ..Never mind the millions of players, I can tell you what every place bet or come odds bet 'should' pay down to the nearest penny, but then there wouldn't be any lights on in the casino. a $5 come odds bet on say a 4 'should' pay $11.25 and not $10. Place bets are terrible bets worse than come odds bets which are also very bad!(over time)
I should have corrected an item above which is there is 1 seven in or of 5.33 rolls. Meaning there will be 3 sevens in 16 rolls or more simply 18.75% of all the rolls shall be a 7! Dice rolls follow what is called a normal bell shaped distribution as is well known in statistics, obviously there are many times when the bell shaped curve gets out of wack.
dontswin How stupid are you? What do you not understand about 36 possible outcomes with two dice, 6 of which equal a total of seven? I think you're just trying to use a lot of numbers to confuse people into not calling your bullshit. What the hell does 4 sides per face mean? I majored in business and took a ton of statistics classes so your post is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Also, trying to give you the tiniest of credibility, I attempted to look up ANY M.I.T. mention of your math and came up with nothing. Nor did I find it on any other website.
I've had some success with this strategy, but one of the main issues here is: in order to turn a profit, the shooter must be on a hot streak; otherwise, you can't make up all the bets you're placing quickly enough.
When your "system" doesn't work and you go busted and you're driving home screaming at your windshield, just remember.... at least you still have your system. Being a craps dealer for over 20 years I love watching system players when their system doesn't work out. They look so confused...like how did this happen!
You are not smart when it comes to being a casino player, which is why you stick to your dealer job. I can validate my opponent about you based on these comments. I will not even waste my time to explain why. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Marc Heiman don't you just love the guys who prop you every roll, lose their asses and don't even bother to throw you a couple of bucks here and there while you bust your back for a whopping $4 an hour ? I have some stories that's for sure, I'll bet you do too!
Wish I would've stumbled upon this the other day. This weekend was the first time I played craps and I just looked at a quick video. Long story short, the first time I got the dice in my hand I went five point fire bet and I had the dice for a good 30 mins. I was only betting on the pass line cause I was a little intimidated by the rest of the board plus there were about 7 ppl betting heavy. I started with 100 by the way. A guy told me that the ppl around the table were winning big bets and estimated the casino paying out 10000 by the time I 7ed out.
I played around with this last night on a couple of apps that I have- that 7 out on the second roll when trying to establish the 'don't come' bet crushed me a lot. Probably more so than what would actually happen in a casino. Can you create a video extrapolating the bets if you are on a 5$ table with low odds, or on a 25$ table with 3-4-5x odds?
I know your comment is a year old. Actually, what you describe is VERY common. We call it "PSO" Point Seven Out. I fully believe in the odds of the dice. But I also believe in trends. We have all seen one number rolled several times in a row, or a "hot" table when the numbers come 3x as often as the seven. If you are serious, invest some money in a small craps felt layout and a good pair of dice. I don' t trust the computer models to give me a fair assessment on a strategy. Learn how to "chart a table" which is basically watching the craps game a while to see if there are trends, or the numbers are coming before just buying in and betting. Best of luck.
hello from the future, year 2020... I've been feening to be able to go to vegas so I can try this method.. sucks that I learned it while quarantine because I've been KILLING it on the website.. how did it work out for you?
Im amazed. It actually works. It takes a bit of discipline and make sure you hedge like he says. My first attempt I turn $100 Iinto $577 and later that same day went back and turned $100 into $728. Both time i played for 1.5 hours and with only $50-$60 dont come bets. On the 2nd time I showed my friend and she turned $100 into $720. Good job and great strategy!!! Thanks.
So after watching this video I have given it a shot several different times and have had a reasonable amount of success. With that said though the tables at m casino are 10x odds tables. is there anything you should do slightly different in order to maximize wins on a 10x odds table???
I tried this strategy last night at the casino. I opted to try this on the shoot to win (electronic bets with real dice) craps because I was nervous about trying this strategy first time on a live table. The max bet on the shoot to win was $100 on the entire board so I wasn't able to use the same exact ratios used here. So instead I did the following: $3 on the pass instead of $10, $6 for my pass odds, $25 on dont come not $75, $3 on all place not $10, $3 on all come bets not $10, $6 on come odds not $20, $2 on the 11 and $3 on the hardways to hedge the don't come. I realize that doing this to the ratios severely impacts the profitability of this method but I wasn't willing to try this on a real table and risk getting the dealers angry. Overall, I like 1. Most of the time you want a 7 to roll except for the 1st don't come roll or the 7 roll doesn't hurt as bad. 2. Lots of hedging makes you feel secure once you get past the 1st dont come roll 3. This strat makes your money last way longer than the iron cross (what I usually play) and is way less risky because of the large dont come bet. What I dont like, 1. It really hurts getting a 7 on the 1st dont come roll. Getting those early will set you up for failure. For this reason you need at least $200 for this start with my ratios. 2. When the dont come roll lands on 5 or 9, there are no hardways to hedge your 5 or 9. So you will lose more often when your dont come rolls to 5 or 9. 3. I get confused as fuck what to do when the point is rolled, the point resets, and I still have my don't come working as well as any residual come bets that are still chilling. At that point I would usually clear everything, wait for a point to be set, and then come back out on the don't come bar and 11. However when I do this, I have come bets still working on top of my no come roll which seems counterinutivive. Can you take your come bets off after they have been placed? The shoot to win would not let me. So I would have to pray a 7 doesnt come out on the 1st dont come roll with my come bets still up there. Theres got to be something missing. I ended up the night exactly where I started after 4 hours of playing. I started at $200. At once point was up to $295, then I was all the way down to $60, then got back to $200 and called it because I had been rolling for 4 hours. Thank you OP for posting this. Can you please tell me what I'm doing wrong here?
The answer is no you cannot touch come or don't come bets, only the odds on them. Also, I don't like any machine or trust them. Maybe try it on a live table and see what happens.
I will amit I was nervous when i lost my first 300 7 out back to back in the DC. 190 loss in 4 rolls but.that's the only true gamble.. Rest your a huge favor. reguardless you won me over 2400. I owe u a drink.. Lol
So... I used this system, not to the T, because I still don't understand the reasoning of some of the bet, but pretty close. Lots of peaks and valleys in the wins/losses, but when you lose, you don't usually lose much, and at some points... you have a chance to more than double up. This is a great system if you catch yourself while you're up and walk away. Was at the Hard Rock, and used the "walk away when up" with this strategy... and over about 4 hours, leaving and coming back, I was $2300 up. and that was with tipping the dealers pretty well (because I can't play and not tip them, lol!)
you do have to find a decent dealer though, a few of them couldn't keep up, or were trying to steal my bets, not sure which. But you have to pay attention to which bets you have out or you will lose a few to the less-than-awesome dealers.
I tried this system few years back in vegas and it works awesome! I’m restudying it repetitively like the first time in order to make it muscle memory, that way there’s no second guessing and it’s so damn comfortable playing craps with very strong confidence. I was floored after my first winnings of $700 cash out first evening winnings plus the $100 buy in on $5 dollor crap table. Thanks for sharing your craps strategy!
Ty for posting..Had seen this system before.. I love it..Was just in vegas and used it 3 days and won money everyday.. This works on a 5 dollar table too. If ur scared u dont have to max odds every time.. Works good for extra comps too and as u said keep watch on dealers and take care of them.. They will help u out..
When you get your DC in place, and lay all of your place bets, and then make a come bet, why not also place a $10 field bet to hedge your come bet against a 2, 3 or 12?
Tried this several times. I won a couple times, but what generally happens is I seven out on the Don't Come line, or I hit the Don't Come number up top almost immediately. I lose almost every time.
@@pizzaboi219 Every bet on the craps table is a negative-expectation bet (a losing bet). People who create systems want you to believe that arranging these losing bets JUST RIGHT, will turn them into positive-expectation bets (winning bets).
success with this strategy is dependent on not having a 7 hit when you put up the DC. Also not having your DC point get hit early. I've made numerous (dozens of) simulations on the Wizard site starting by betting 5,000 on the field until I get a starting bank of 200 or 300. I get wiped out more often than I get deep into 'house money' with increased bets on the points. Maybe the system is ok for tables that are lukewarm to hot, but when your DC point is hit, assuming you avoided a 7 on the DC roll, early you've lost your hedge against all of the points you've taken. The secret to winning at Craps is learning to roll NOT 7s and to take advantage of other shooters who don't roll them. I spent 2 weeks in Reno having never played live craps before and came home with more money than I went with. PURE DUMB LUCK. The Iron Cross strategy worked for me and I only extended my bets after collecting the chips to afford them.
The longer you stay inside a casino the more likely you will lose all your money. Take an amount that won't kill you if you were to lose it, let's say 3 days of pay at your job. Find a 100X odds table. Bet the minimum on the pass line, establish a point, and bet the rest of your money on the odds. If you lose, leave the casino. If you win, do it again. Your goal is to win 3 points in a row betting all your money each time. (minimum on the line and the rest on odds) At any time you lose your stack leave. If you win 3 points in a row. Quit and leave. End result: You either lose 3 days of pay, or you win big!! Either way you were only in the casino for less than an hour. Enjoy!
JonBenait06 Nonsense, and I've actually won this a few more times than you would believe. If 3 days pay means that much, save it up over 6 months.... Yes my job is easy, and pays well. I sacrificed my nights and weekends for many years to get to this point. What's the alternative? Go in with $200 and hope to win $50 to leave with $250? That wouldn't even be worth the drive to the casino.
You don't have to leave the Casino, Just change games. I have had completely bad luck at Craps go over to the Roulette wheel and win big and visa versa. If I really need to slow it down just head over to the slots or play 21 or play a mundane (low ball) Progressive system at least you will be making some of your bank roll back until, new people go to the tables. Until you see the tables clear out. Then try your luck again.
I love this! You decide what your goal is, you use logic to determine the optimum betting strategy with the potential to achieve your goal, and you accept the risks involved in such an endeavor. Well played!
Tried the system in Vegas last weekend. Turned 300$ in 1000$ in 90 minutes. It is a good system, the problem is that if you loose the DC a couple of times at the very beginning, then you can go home. In summary I would say, try the system in a 5$ minimum casino and don't go crazy...PS: Do not really edge the DC...in my case I just lost money on those bets
let me correct you big guy. when you win on the dont come with a craps you are not winning 150.00 you are winning 75 and collecting 150.00 that really bothers me when people say that. getting your own money back is not a win.
lucky jiggly wiggles thank you, exactly. I can't stand when computer simulated games or people say you win back your own money. I would prefer them to say what I actually win.
I have run this strategy on a $10 min bet simulator with a $500 starting balance, lost the $500 5 times and won a bit of money the 6th time. Goes south fast when the DC bets lose.
Hey Kerry, thanks for sharing brother! I've employed the system a couple times and won a couple hundred each time. House always wins long term of course, but it's just an enjoyable way to play the game, and as you mentioned, easy way to earn comps! Someone may have already pointed this out, but one change I would offer. Once you get to $25 place bets, it is actually better to buy the 4 remaining numbers instead of placing them. Then you win 30 for 25 on 6/8, 36 for 25 on 5/9, and 50 for 25 on 4/10 (losing $1 vig in each case) instead of 28/24, 35/25, 45/25, respectively. More important the higher you go. Thanks again for the video!
Charlie Farris so it only nets a small win? Maybe leave after a hot shooter? Or stay until one? I guess the ultimate question is do you think that you don’t reduce the house edge or don’t gain in some cases? If that were the case the system wouldn’t work at all...
A buddy of mine and I have tried this system repeatedly in casinos and it has not failed us yet. We walk out with $500-$1000 profit every time. The system is absolutely brilliant! We have our own variation to it, as we hedge the 7 instead of the 11 on a don't come roll, as we only play for 2-3 periods. If we played for longer in one session, then it may make more sense to hedge the 11.
+hawaiidispenser Very bad system; you'll lose ur ass off in the long run. maybe even right out of the gate if u happen to run into a table that's point and 7. the best bet on the crap table is 6&8 and to bet it in a progressive fashion. you will need $372.00 for this. $186.00 for each #(6&8). You bet $6.,$12.,$24.,$48. and $96. progressively on each # and go back down to min. bet when it hits. very simple, very effective and very inexpensive to start. one more thing...don't "turn off" neither # during the "come out" rolls.
question ... once you lay your place bets , and start rolling your come bets. are you taking down your place bets as you win then? or do you leave your place bets on top of the new come bet for each roll? say you have a place on 6. you roll a 6 , come bet moved to 6. you collect your place bet, are you leaving the place bet? or taking it down since your come bet has moved there?
If you study his video over and over then just practice throwing the dice counting how long you throw before hitting 7, you’ll build muscle memory, you need confidence. I love the phrase house money!
my 4th day playing craps and i've pretty much gotten to where i can use this system in the heat of a full craps table(it was really tough at first, seriously.. especially since my dealers didn't seem to be the best at knowing what was going on). BUT i'm up about $400 and i've been playing really conservatively. there are some sketchy rules at this table (i'm on a cruise ship), but i modified a craps app to run with the same rules as my casino and i've just been practicing on it. i've had some lows but for the most part, this system seems to consistently work. i'm VERY pleased and almost feel like i'm doing something illegal haha. not many seasoned craps players here so everyone is baffled by my crazy bets lol. it's weird how hardly anyone knows what the come/don't come means. seems like everyone here just bets on the pass, places, and maybe the hardways. i've not even really been hedging my bets with the hardways and i'm still up. i'm thinking about upping the stakes a bit tonight.. i may lose it all but we'll see *crossing fingers*
I tried this in Las Vegas, but I wasn’t very lucky. Unfortunately numerous times the 7 rolled when I bet the Don’t Pass, and when it didn’t, I’d get a 6 or 8 on the Don’t Pass, and the $75 would lose as the 6 and 8 would roll before a 7.
I have a great strategy that always pays off. I stand at the CRAPS table for hours and the casino gives me free food and drinks. Sometimes I even get a free room that allows me to stay close to the casino over night. I don't seem to be doing so well actually playing CRAPS though.
I like this strategy. I need to watch again, so maybe dumb questions, but why don't you bet odds on the pass line when you make the DC bet? Also, would you recommend this strategy without the place bets? Lots of moving parts - perhaps just accumulating spots in the register with come bets without the place bets is a way to go. Thoughts?
Because a huge DC bet makes you so vulnerable in one single roll, that I try to minimize the potential for disaster by "turning off" or removing as many other bets as possible. That way if a 7 hits you will minimize the damage to your stack. On the other hand, if you have all the points "placed" and odds on the pass line and all your come bets while you have a large DC bet, you will lose too much money id a 7 hits.
So where's the part where you make some bets for the dealers? Or I guess you can't hedge those huh? This strategy is the ultimate stroke for any crap dealer, especially on swing shift....
After winning on the point, I make a $6 hop all the 7's for the dealers. As you can clearly see this video was made on a website, where there are no dealers to tip.
Hey tho, you mention that a better odds table would be better. Such as a 5X table perhaps? Would anything else change? Place bets? DC bet? Or just increase odds accordingly like normal? Thanks!!
Kerry, have you tried just hopping the 7's to cover your 'Don't Come' Bet? I understand why you play both lines to help minimize loss but if you are at a 5$ table and just do a 25$ DC bet then you just need 2$ on the 11, and 6$ to hop the 7's for that one roll. You are open to losing just 8$ to make sure you bet moves but I'm sure a lot of people watching don't have 300-400 to start with when they go. I try and work off 100-200 if I can- food for though anyway.
To clarify...the biggest hit you'll take is when the DC number is rolled followed by a 7 correct? In that scenario you just lost $150 (the original established DC and the come out DC) plus every contract bet on the table.
Try playing passline and don't pass both and lay odds when your DC is on comeout. Hedge with hardway if point is even number. Saved me quite a few times at casino.
Ron, thanks for the reply. I defin hedge the DC hard if it's even number. My question above has happened quite a bit is there any way to protect against it? Basically the table is established and I'm ready to go on a run but the DC number is rolled and I loose my $75 DC. I rebet it and the very next roll is a 7 out, so lose the DC AGAIN and all established come/ place bets. The don't pass would be a winner in this instance but how much are you putting on the DP if your pass is a $10?
ArtOfBaccarat Simply because every possible bet you can make has a house edge, (except the odds bet which is even even, but cannot ever be made without first making another house edge bet). This means over the long term everyone loses at this game -- no matter what corny little strategy might be employed. And no matter what you might have done in the short term.
ArtOfBaccarat As with any of these table games it is possible to stack up $4000 in a short while using large bets -- but it is also a little more likely that you will lose that amount. One doesn't have to understand the game to appreciate that fact. As far as house edge, it has the very lowest -- it is the best game, IF PLAYED CORRECTLY. (Roulette is the worst table game). There are a very large number of possible bets at craps, the most of which are very bad bets. The house depends upon people playing those many bad bets. Craps is not a complicated game, it just seems so because of the large number of bets possible.
Used this system in Vegas started with $300.00 and walked out the casino 2 hours later with $725 after tipping the dealer $20.00. Had a lot of fun with plenty of high fives going on around the table. Got hairy for a moment when my bank went down to $100. So it felt great to walk out with a few hundred. I practiced this system on the simulator for a week and then 2 days before my trip I discovered your modified system but I had already invested too much time learning this system so I stuck with it.
Dealers don’t like taking down bets! And they don’t like helping win... this method is still very good. You’re loosing too much on the field. If you feel a seven is coming bet higher on the come bar instead of maxing odds above. A seven is rolled out of every six rolls normally
Where were you when I was in school if shit was explained to me that easy I'd be a millionaire thanks for the info and knowledge I feel more powerful already when I put a few tricks in my sleeve for the casinos next time I visit by the way I live in Las Vegas Nevada greatest state in the country and city in the world holla.
Just came back from Vegas and in talking with some dealers came up with a better tweak on your system. After the tweak ended up making over $100 every time we played. We normally play for about an hour at a time. The tweak has to do with ditching the come bets.
Every single craps "strategy" video on TH-cam is bullshit, this one is extra bad. Anyone playing 4,5,9 or 10 is clueless, those are terrible bets. The only strategy is how much money do you want at risk ? Play the pass or don't pass, come or don't come, take odds, place only 6 and 8. Avoid every other bet. You are now one of the top 1% of all craps players. You're welcome.
You would be largely correct if your strategy is to play bets with the lowest house edge at all times. But you are discounting the fact that a "BUY" 4 and 10 (which isn't discussed much here) is just as good as place 6/8, and since you can also buy a 5/9 for up to $38 for only a dollar and only if it wins, you can minimize the house edge there as well. And also, there is no stopping anyone from using this strategy with no hedging on 11 and the hard ways. Its riskier in the short run, but you're right, in the long run the house edge is higher on those bets. In the end you'll need to get lucky, even with your strategy.
Yep. Biggest mistake I see is players pressing so aggressively that they give back a ton when a hot roll ends and placing all the numbers instead of just the 6/8 or making come bets. Or in sticking to some bs system instead of having fun and hoping for luck :)
Yep, Jeff. I think I agree with you. This video has you playing a bunch of bets all with negative expected values, so in the long run the mathematics wins for the casino. You want to put the least amount of money down with bad odds, and playing the Pass or Don't Pass would be it, while taking or laying the odds (for which the House has no edge).
+blogdorf, if the top concern for you is that all bets at a casino have a house edge, you should never put a single dollar on ANY bet in a casino. Because they ALL have a house edge. Those that criticize casino betting strategies for this reason alone are obviously missing the point. Its as if you came here hoping to find a full-proof way to beat the casino or something. If you ever believed that then that is YOUR problem, not ours. As for focus in on low % house edge bets, you'll see that I ALWAYS bet minimum on pass and come, the bet MAXIMUM on odds. There is no better way to bet in the entire casino. The only questionable bets are the big don't come and the moderate sized place bets. Well first of all, even though the DC flat bet is large, the overall house edge on a DC bet is one of the lowest in the casino. And as for the place bets, hell even Jeff admits that 6 and 8 are acceptable and what you don't know is that in a real casino I BUY the 4,5,9 and 10 which give you better odds. All that being said, I would challenge anyone on the net to show me a system that allows you to bet as much money and demonstrate it winning as I did that has a lower overall house edge. I doubt anyone can.
I was going to ask what I should do when you get to a point where you have all numbers in play, with max odds on everything. The $75 DC and $10 COME bet can only hedge $85. If the point is 6, and the DC is 8, I might have $10 on PASS, $50 odds, $10 COME 4 with $30 odds, $10 on COME 5 with $40 odds, $10 on COME 9 with $40 odds, and $10 on COME 10 with $30 odds, and $10 on the HARD EIGHT. That is $250 on the table that will be lost with a 7, with only $85 winning with DC and COME. I understand you have to win a lot to get to that point, but it may make sense to place odds on the DC at some point.
managed to figure out a strategy if you don't feel comfortable having your dc point on a common number such as 6 and 8, if you bet the don't come bar with the come bar you can max odds on the point and hedge it with the hard 6 or 8, decreasing money lost if six or 8 hits and in such a case a hard six rolls and dc is on but max odds is on and depending how much you have on the hard six, you may even win money against the loss of your dc bet
Hey kerry. In vegas now and used your unmodified system yesterday- + 500. Game was a bit fast for my rookie run and missed a few bets but was happy. Came back to room and watched video again - and passed out. Day two - realized my mistakes and had all bets pre set in rack on come out - played just under two hours- bought for 300 walked with 1700 after tip. Dealer complemented the system and if i had a question she would say " if your sticking to your system you would do this" and help me out . The dc hedge keeps you at the table as people come and go - im a beliver bro ty for your post !
Went to vegas the last 2 days playing this strategy and won $1290. I played 9 different sessions and only lost once ($45). I was betting $5 pass line, $75 DC, and $10 across with $5 come bets. The system works very well! Thank you!
BS. If it did it was just sheer luck!
PRES. BARACK H. OBAMA its always luck but this system works well to reduce house edge. If you’re a serious long time Craps player who has tried various strategies, and you haven’t tried this, it’s worth running your own simulations since you’re skeptical. Obviously no strategy is guaranteed, but you should only play only if you can afford to lose, plus you have to have a large enough bankroll. I have used this strategy many times and it’s not always a winner, but certainly has reduced overall “bad losses” and overall I am up with this strategy...over time...with ups and downs. And I have kept track for the past 4 years wins and losses with every time I go to the table regardless of if I win or lose. You don’t have to believe me or the guy who did the video. Do your own research.
@@mendonfire11981 i used this strategy in a web based game and won big time. im still skeptical to try it out at the casino but next time i have 300 i can afford to lose im gonna put it up and see what i end up with
I've tried this strategy (actually with a little variation) twice in NV and won. the first time I started with $200 and won $410 (cashed $610), the second time I started with $400 and won $360 (cashed $760). The 2 things I did differently was I placed a $25 DC bet (instead of $75), then placed odds on the lay. The second thing was I didn't bet the place bets, I just started playing come bets. This actually protected me from the quick 7 roll early on. Thanks for the tip.......it worked for me!
When doing a come bet after point is rolled. Wouldn't it be better to have some chips on 12 and 2 so you still make money on snake eyes when doing come bet.
This looks like a good strategy if the table is hot!! After playing many rounds (a $100 at a time) I have found the best way for me is to play a 5 count. The reason for the 5 count is because dice like blackjack (I don't card count) run through cycles. Either you win quickly (hot table) or the house gradually grinds you down. If you keep track of the number of times the dice are rolled and make the numbers (I only play the pass line and come) before crapping out it, will amaze you. I see more money lost before I reach the five count than any other time on the table. Yes, there are runs of the dice when everyone is making money even when the house has the highest advantage. After that hot run is gone your now reaching into your pocket hoping it will happen again. Keeping track with the five count is amazing. This is not a sure proof way of winning but it a way to significantly reduce your losses so when the table does turn hot you'll have money and are ready to bet and have fun. Fun to me is reducing the risk of losing and winning more often!! I have had many deals ask me what I was doing as I pile up the chips (sometimes). Sometimes it can take 5, 7, 10 or more shooters before I make the five count and start betting. It does take time but the time goes by quicker than you think. Yes I do loose but I reduce my risk significantly. Think about it? You make place bets, pass line bets, and come bets with odds, The number is 5 and two other numbers are rolled and 7 out. Dang!! Your repeat this cycle and before you know it your down your bank roll or going to the ATM machine so you can catch the next hot roll!! How the five count works: the dice have to hit 4,5,6,8,9,or 10 five times. 1,2,3,7,11,or 12 do not count as part of the five count. If a seven comes out you start over from the beginning. Lets begin: a 5 is rolled one count, a 6 is rolled two count, now 11 still two count, 3 craps still two count, 4 three count, 7 out, starting over:12 is rolled still no count, 11 still no count, 6 one count, 9 two count, 8 three count, 8 four count, 11 still four count, 3 craps still four count, 7 out... Once I get to the five count I place money on the pass line/take odds and a come bet. Now my betting starts. Its up to you how many numbers you want working. You'll be amazed how many time you'll get all the numbers loaded up and make a little money or a lot of money. Only the cycle of the dice will determine your luck. Next time you play, try it before betting and see what happens, good luck!!
Your "5 count" strategy is a fallacy. You can flip a quarter and wait for heads to flip consecutively three times, but the odds of heads flipping the very next time is still 50%. The same applies to the craps table. Waiting for a "5 count" does not change anything. All the odds are still firmly in place at exactly what they were before the "5 count" occurred. It doesn't reduce your risk at all and is based solely on delusion and superstition. The only thing it may do is allow you to risk less money in any given time frame. However, when you do lose, you'll just have wasted more time, to lose the same amount of money.
Brian Riley Thanks for at least reading my post. I did read a book about playing this way over 20 years ago. I don't have the book anymore but I use this way to play successfully. You are correct the odds are still what they are and they will never change. Dice do run in cycles: hot and cold tables. I wish you the best and win a bunch of money on the craps table however you play.
The BIGGEST flaw for this style is that on that "Biggest Bet" part. Right after the come out roll, where you have like 85 bucks "to lose" if you 7 there, you lose it. So if you get your dont come bet, on let's say 8... and then an 8 rolls, you lose your dont come, and then when you try to reset your dont come, if you roll a 7 you lose literally everything.
I've tried this, and rolling a 7 on your dont come roll definitely destroys your bankroll
this strategy sucks noobs play it like that, dropping all there 300 on table
spot on bro
Put $25 on any 7 to hedge
@@JSwizzle11 That's a one time bet. You will lose $25 each time, just to face the point that can take the rest if made.
This is honestly the most interesting, fun, and (Whether you think craps strategy is a myth or not) lucrative betting strategy I have played yet since starting craps a month ago and exhausting every type of strategy I come across. It feels so aggressive but I feel way less "Oh no" when the dice settles with this than when I am playing some kind of iron cross bet or progressive press strategy. Sim'd 7 shooters so far and 5/7 shooters I profited from, with 4/5 of those shooters making 100$+ walk away profit for me with a 200$ bankroll (I was using 10$ start on pass followed by 50$ on my DC but other than that near identical unit per unit strategy. Thank you man this is some genius play
I watch this every time I go to Vegas
tried this yesterday, turned 200 into 600 in 2 hours at my local casino. dealers gave me a tough time, but once they figured out my strategy they off-on'd my bets for me. i was down for probably the first hour due to heavy losses on my initial DC bet, but once the table warmed up, i was rolling
Tip them well , you won’t have to worry about when your off / on or anything else ! lol gl
I used your system last weekend. I drove to Vegas in a $20,000 car and left in a $250,000 bus!
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Kerry I used your system in Las Vegas this weekend and tripled my money thank you very much!!!
Thanks. You are the first person I've heard of to try it besides me. It seems like as long as you can:
B.) you have the discipline to stick to the strategy
C.) have the discipline to CASH OUT when you're up
D.) have the discipline to only play a predetermined set maximum during your session
you have a good chance of winning. This system doesn't require the table to be hot or cold (since you hedge all your bets with the DC, but to win it does require that at some point you get a decent shooter.
As would any night at the dice table !! This is working on a simulator. 9 out 10 it doesn’t happen in real game
YOU WIN WHEN COLD SHOOTER SEVENS OUT ! YOU LOSE WHEN SHOOTER KNOCKS OFF YOUR DC , which is more difficult to do than roll 7 !!!
I've been to Laughlin twice and just got home from Vegas last night. Using this method has made me money every time!
All these negative comments... with the right patience, bank management and knowing when to quit. It is very possible to come out a winner. I won thousands in casinos with craps. Probably the fairest game in the casino if you know what you are doing. The thing is, casinos pray on greed, hopes, impulse and addiction, so in the long run they are the winner.. knowing how to go home when you are hot and making money is a very difficult thing to do.
You don't have to quit working systems when you are "hot." Take card counting for example, you know it works because you quit only when the Casino throws your ass out for winning too much.
They pray on some of those emotions, but it's the mathematical addvantage that really wins for the casinos in the long run.
@@leif09123g card counting no longer works for any big money in casinos. They use multiple decks, bet limits and Reshuffle before all cards are delt from the shoe.
@@ericmadeoftin8206 Didn't say anything about big money. Simply pointing out the fact that 'if the math is on your side' you don't have to quit. Eventually, you'll walk away positive, not by massive amounts, just that you'll end ahead. The only two games I know of that you can do this on are blackjack and video poker, both are a grind and neither will make you filthy rich.
Not recommending anyone quit their day job to make it rich as a card counter or video poker player.
No you don’t
Used your system last night for the first time. Turned 300 into a little over a grand!
It's been six years since your post, are you still using the system, and are you still raking in the cash?
@@MartinDee2000 no I've tinkered with some other things. Still an up and down game
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@@shanecurlee2692 I appreciate the update, thanks.
@@shanecurlee2692 what have you tinkered?
Saw a guy use this in a cruise casino. He really cleaned several nights. He was very humble and admitted it's possible to lose quickly if you x-out on that 2nd roll. I tried it in Vegas once, but couldn't remember all the "rules" like hedging the yo, so it didn't work for me the only time I tried it. Going to give it another try soon.
i literally studied this video, played it to the tee, hedging 11's when point is off, all of it (that came in clutch one time and made it all worth the previous hedge bets) Anyways...... it worked. i turned $100 (on a $5 table) into $300 after 40 minutes of play or so. thanks, i have a craps strategy when in vegas
Yes, thanks to this video i turned from losing $200 on friday night to be up $1700 by monday morning in reno nv. Awesome stragedy. I didn't play the DC though, however I did use his betting stragedy and using the "off" A LOT. That saved me so many times. I used the "off" every 7 rolls. On hot shooters i let it ride 10 rolls. I didnt lose any money for a good hour. It was crazy. Red $5 chips turned into greens and greens into blacks so quick!!!
at around 8:30 you can hedge your bet on the 9 by putting down a field bet, which not only hedges all ways to roll a 9, but also gives you all the outside combinations on that roll.
Are there any other ways to hegge a 5 & 9?
I play this way exclusively and I do admit that I don't win every time, but I DO win more often than when I lose. Nothing will every be perfect and the house always wins, but this does give a player a fighting chance.
Same experience here. I’ve won as much as $2400 with a starting bank of $300. Most times I win more than I lose and leave with more money in my pocket than I initially had as my bank. But I’ve also had more than a few times where I lost the initial $300 bank in less than 30 minutes of play.
@kerryssmyth Big problem with your system is if you lose the don't come bet, followed with a seven.
I’ve used this system and had that happen. If it happens early enough in your play (as it did to me twice), then it’s best to just walk away and call it a day. Throwing good money after bad is always a bad idea. Most times I make more money than I bank but only if I get past the first 30 minutes of play.
Good strategy, good advice. Don’t be greedy, stay the course. I haven’t brought down the house (new gambler, small bets), but I haven’t left in the negative yet either.
I am not a big gambler but I tried this, I couldn't keep up with the bets, but I was close, started with 150, played for 1 hour, got lucky and won 1175 dollars
LOL glad to hear it worked for you. Just out of curiosity besides the Lay on 4 and 10, did you deviate from the way I was doing it and if so how? And also did you do it on a $10 min table or different?
I like this. Only numbers you're scared of is ;
1. 7 on 1st dont come roll
2. after the dont come pt is established-the dont come bet point # repeating -can try to hedge with hardways if you can
Only thing I would change is put some money on 7 on 1st dont come roll (maybe $15 on 7) I'd be scared of losing $90. Also you can maybe add more money on the comebets Why win only 85 when 7 hits and lose over $100 every time? Bet $30 on 1st comebet win $105 lose $105- at least 1st roll-then keep rolling $10-$30 comebets
Youre a genius kerry smyth great strategy 99.9 % of people would never think of this
Dude. With your method. I learned how to increase my odds substantially! Thank you so much man. You are so intelligent!!! Thank you thank you!!!
I used this in Vegas last week and won $1200 in one session and $300 in another. Paid for my trip, some shows and fun money for my wife and daughter.
The table was extremely hot for players and my wife even came out ahead using her pass line & buying 6&8 strategy.
Even on not so hot tables i was able to tread water.
When the table gets hot it pays to up the bets.
I know this is an old video but I like your strategy. Do you have your tutorial video available still?
fascinating. I do love hedge systems. Will give it a try.
This system works well and is fun to play. It’s not for the meek… there is constant action. It’s the only way I will play craps anymore.
Would love to see all of these critics craps youtube videos. Please post links.
Just wanna say I went up over $1k using this strategy the other night. Really appreciate the video and explaining, when the shooters are cold you tend to stay even and when the shooter is hot you definitely keep going up!
Just tried this at my local Casino, im in Florida so all we have now are the bobble tables (reminds me of the board game trouble) but none the less its "random" i brought 800. lost my first 300 then played the 500 flipped it to 2300 (plus comps) when the DC is on 4 or 10 i lay x1 or x2 depending on my bank roll hands down if you have the bankroll this is a really nice strategy
Just wanted to say thanks for posting this. I used to version of this strategy with $100 and walked away with $900 last night.
Went to the local casino, I'm a BJ player but saw this and thought I'd give it a try. Wow! the game moves fast! First time at a craps table! Was up $400 and before I knew what happened I was down $100 but had a blast! I forgot to take down my don't pass lay and it was down hill from there! Lots of moving parts and I learned not to ever touch the stick man when trying to get his attention! LoL! I'm going to drill down on this and get back to the table, most fun I've had in a long time. Thanks!
You know how many times I have been at a table and have witnessed: point+7 point+7 point+7 point+7, I have seen an entire table devastated by having this occur 6+ times in a row, your risk of ruin is only 4 times, this is a losing strategy.
A much better strategy is to start Don't Pass w/ odds, enough money to cover 2x $24 bets on 6 & 8 then if 6 or 8 hit, take down both bets and optionally remove your odds on Don't Pass. i.e. Hit and Run.
Also, you had $7k but walked away with $4k. If $4k was your stop-win condition, take down that other $3k first...before losing it!!
It happens.. Really happens.
Dealers will make you feel extremely unwelcome if you take down 3 grand
@@paulandrews8113 who cares what the dealers THINK?
.... or what they feel???
Well said
Great strategy! Especially for comps :-)
Hi. Lisa
It's an awesome system and the exact way I play. Took a few trips and got some hard lessons on how to deal with dealers and players and PSOs but I got it down and now I am a winner!! It amazes me and everyone around me that no matter how much I lose I still grow my bankroll. I feel very confident about playing craps now. and the best thing I like the most is I have learned to be a very good shooter. Can't wait to get back to the casino. I got a couple tweaks I am ready to try out.
Any tweak will ruin this. Is that one of your hard lessons?
I will be in Vegas Friday. Staying downtown. I would tip you if you wanted to meet up and go hit a table together. I have been practing on a few different apps and I seem t be getting the hang of the system and I actually feel this will be easier to do on a real table because u don't have to drag and drop so much. Plus I am confident in my rolling skills.
Omg I cannot believe it ,I was on fire,started with 1200 a hour and a half later I left with 8655
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Congratulations🎉
Thank you for your advice. I took a similar approach however I never bet against the 7 at any point. I went to Macau last week, played on a 5xodds table just like most in Vegas. And sure enough stood at a very uncrowded table (because Asians aren't obsessed with this game like we Americans are), and turned 4000 HK into 40,000 -- in about 12 hours time.
So I 1)kept a minimum bet on the hardways all the time.
2) Only bet on the dark side. If the point was 6 or an 8 I removed my bet and just did Dont Come betting.
3) Went max odds on 5 and 9, but the 4 and 10 -- I added a Lay bet.
Played this with only double or triple odds last night for about 2 hours and left up 200. The stickmen where I was at helped me out, and they actually liked the fact that my bets were consistent and said they prefer that. For any doubters you can see the hedge working. I was up almost 500 but got pointed out on my DC several times in a row and was actually down to only about +20 or so. Hung in there stuck to the system and pumped back up. Nothing is 100% but this flat out will keep you at the table, save getting head cracked out the gate (which could definitely happen), catch a hot shooter and ur gonna make money. Even lucked out on a yo 11 on a fresh DC too. I was putting those down just based on feel. Side note, I probably tipped out around 200, 10 or 25 at a time with a 50 spot at the end (25 each) for the two guys that were sticking the whole time I was at the table. I was literally a few busted DCs from being up alot more.
ok everyone - I have played this "system" for 2 years now and have tweaked it some to remove the come bets. Before playing this system we used to play the pass line, max odds and then place the numbers across. 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10 (less the point of course). Now we play the point $25 then make a $175 dont bet, then place the remaining numbers across at $25 per plus the odds on the line. While we dont win much on a hot table, we dont loose much on a clod table either. What we do get is HUGE COMPS. Granted playing for comps is not the best way to do Vegas but I can tell you this system also allows you to stand at a table for 1hr or more and not keep pumping $$ into the game. We get food, rooms, shows, reserved seating in the sports books, etc now that our play is rated at $400 -$500 per roll whereas before we were rated at $150 or less per roll.
That story is pretty much what I have experienced personally. The perks you get for comps is amazing. I get free flights to Vegas, free rooms at various hotels for up to 16 consecutive nights and he never pays a penny for food. He also gets free tickets to various shows and other entertainment. So yeah don't discount the comps!!
+kerrywsmyth how long do you have to play to get som good comps im a first time player thanks
Aren't the come best 'safe' though if you 7 out? Since you use house money for that any ways isn't it worth it?
New player trying to get to grips.. thanks
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Okay my experience report: I just played this at the casino on a $10 min table.
Hey! It's kinda stressful with $75 out there and hoping they don't roll a 7. But anyway, I lost the $75 then I Martingale the 75, and with a couple of don't comes, not even many come bets I was up $500 in less than 30min.. so it's risky, but it freaking worked like a charm.. ill keep using this system for sure.
Please update your report
If you get past the roll on the "Don't Come" bet, then the "Don't" bet hedges the "Come" with odds or "Place" bets, and any streak regardless of how short, will win you money. The problem occurs if you roll a seven when you put the "Don't Come" bet down. You would then lose the $80 on up to $1k that was being put down on it.
I forgot to mention that rolling an eleven right after placing the "Don't Come" bet will also give a big loss, as rolling a seven will. This happens 22 percent of the time or almost a quarter of the time. It happens in streaks, and in this case, he almost never hit a seven or eleven directly after placing the large "Don't Come" bets.
I think this is a good option as one of your possible betting options to use on the table. I have been practicing on an app on my phone, sometimes good other times not. Last week at a casino I did not have the guts to fully implement it as I play on $5 tables with $100, the times I did have a DC it helped me stay in the game a little longer. Last night I went in to play with $250 using the system fully. I was up to $500 then down to $150. My DC varied between $50 and $70 depending on table 'Feel" if a shooter got hot I bet with them and did not replace my DC typically after 2 DC losses. When placing my DC I hedged with $5-Yo and $6 Hop -7, by the end of the night it was $6-Yo and $9 Hop-7. I thought it worked well and I played for over 3hrs and left with $500 for +$300 on my first trial by fire. Will see if the streak on this method continues. Typically a Pass line and 2 Come bets player.
I was just thinking hopping the 7 at 4-1 makes sense on the DC.
What is the proper way to call out any 7 bet while at the table?
I didnt know how to play craps a few days ago...I had a casino trip planned and wanted to learn. I watched this video 2x. I went to the casino and was pretty nervous, and really didn't know proper table etiquette . The employees straightened me out after awhile. I made a few mistakes here and there, but walked away with over 230$ profit. I played for over a solid hour. THANK YOU!!! if you have any other tips or improvements please let me know cause I'm planning a trip to see my father and we are gonna hit a casino while there
Same here, I also did not know how to play.
I was there for CES and my friend's buddy showed me how to play.
The next day I learned proper craps table etiquette from a player at The Wynn, still have more to learn but I walked away with the same amount as you did.
Fun game, great energy if you play with fun people.
I profited $2390 off this system I love it, an good luck to you again!
You mention your "intro tutorial" in this vid. Where can I find that?
Can you please do another video of this strategy so it can give us other instances. We need too see what you do when the point is hit. Thanks again for this video.
What do u mean the point gets hit many times
All these people saying thiss strategy doesn't work must be missing something....ive succeded MULTIPLE times using this method. MAKE SURE you all are following exactly like this man says in the video. If you roll a seven on your second roll it happens..its called perseverance.
Jake Hotchkiss Then you got lucky, just like anyone else that plays craps and wins. ANY system can win once in a while. All that has to happen to lose money with this system is a 7 rolling on the 2nd roll (a 1 out of 6 occurrence) or the number where your Don't Come bet landed to roll again and that happens a LOT.
Kody Selasky First and foremost you must get that 1 in 6 occurrence of the seven out of your head! Almost every book on the market about craps is coughing up the same incomplete and disinformation about probability about craps!! I'll try to explain why. Now I'm probably gonna get a bunch of hate comments from every dice player in the world but bare with me on this. These facts are in corroboration with what M.I.T. has stated about dice probabilities. THE FACT IS: There is 1 seven in 4.33 rolls! (Omg..he didn't just say that?) Well, yes I did! Dice are cubes, meaning they have 4 sides per face therefore on any one roll of ONE DIE there is 24 possible outcomes(6 faces times 4 edges)! Now remember, ignore the fact that each face is showing up 4 times..look how the result is changing on the side of the die, this fact CAN NOT be ignore for it is utmost relevance! [ The math fractions can not be reduced like you were doing a normal ' fraction reduction' calculation, because each edge of a side has an equal probability of being in any position when a die lands after a toss!]Therefore, there are 24 times 24 outcomes with 2 dice on any one roll, which is 576 possible combinations!(or more easily understood as 96 times 6=576!) The 7 will be 18.75% of all the rolls! In RANDOM ROLLS (over time)[OF PERFECT DICE]96 rolls 18 will be sevens, 13 will be a six, 13 will be a eight, 10 will be a five, 10 will be a nine, 8 will be a four, 8 will be a ten, the 2,3, 11, and 12 see if you can figure those out for yourself. From here you can have a field day with interpolations of casino edges, casino skimming on the place bets and come bets odds payouts, on and on..Very few craps dealers even know this stuff, maybe they don't care? Even most pit bosses don't ..Never mind the millions of players, I can tell you what every place bet or come odds bet 'should' pay down to the nearest penny, but then there wouldn't be any lights on in the casino. a $5 come odds bet on say a 4 'should' pay $11.25 and not $10. Place bets are terrible bets worse than come odds bets which are also very bad!(over time)
dontswin I like them words you put down
I should have corrected an item above which is there is 1 seven in or of 5.33 rolls. Meaning there will be 3 sevens in 16 rolls or more simply 18.75% of all the rolls shall be a 7! Dice rolls follow what is called a normal bell shaped distribution as is well known in statistics, obviously there are many times when the bell shaped curve gets out of wack.
dontswin How stupid are you? What do you not understand about 36 possible outcomes with two dice, 6 of which equal a total of seven? I think you're just trying to use a lot of numbers to confuse people into not calling your bullshit. What the hell does 4 sides per face mean? I majored in business and took a ton of statistics classes so your post is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Also, trying to give you the tiniest of credibility, I attempted to look up ANY M.I.T. mention of your math and came up with nothing. Nor did I find it on any other website.
Love this system. Worked great in Vegas last month. Didn't work so great at card craps in California. Just got unlucky the last time.
Plated two week in a role and have won 500 with this strategy. Love it bc everyone around me gets mad when the. Shooter rolls a seven.
I've had some success with this strategy, but one of the main issues here is: in order to turn a profit, the shooter must be on a hot streak; otherwise, you can't make up all the bets you're placing quickly enough.
When your "system" doesn't work and you go busted and you're driving home screaming at your windshield, just remember.... at least you still have your system. Being a craps dealer for over 20 years I love watching system players when their system doesn't work out. They look so confused...like how did this happen!
Hahahaha screaming at your windshield
+Dave S Craps isn't craps unless it's played with dice. Just my opinion.
You are not smart when it comes to being a casino player, which is why you stick to your dealer job. I can validate my opponent about you based on these comments. I will not even waste my time to explain why. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Marc Heiman don't you just love the guys who prop you every roll, lose their asses and don't even bother to throw you a couple of bucks here and there while you bust your back for a whopping $4 an hour ? I have some stories that's for sure, I'll bet you do too!
google user that's about as idiotic a statement as I've heard yet.
Thank you so much. Whish 8 could buy you a beer. Up 6k in 1st week doing this!
Wish I would've stumbled upon this the other day. This weekend was the first time I played craps and I just looked at a quick video. Long story short, the first time I got the dice in my hand I went five point fire bet and I had the dice for a good 30 mins. I was only betting on the pass line cause I was a little intimidated by the rest of the board plus there were about 7 ppl betting heavy. I started with 100 by the way. A guy told me that the ppl around the table were winning big bets and estimated the casino paying out 10000 by the time I 7ed out.
Shivanand Tahal that always happens when i crap
Great now your hooked and you will never roll this hot again yet you will continue to try for the next 20 years
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Dope system. Don't quite understand it but its lit! What if ur on a cold table? Also u don't lose the come bets when a 7 rolls?
I played around with this last night on a couple of apps that I have- that 7 out on the second roll when trying to establish the 'don't come' bet crushed me a lot. Probably more so than what would actually happen in a casino. Can you create a video extrapolating the bets if you are on a 5$ table with low odds, or on a 25$ table with 3-4-5x odds?
I know your comment is a year old. Actually, what you describe is VERY common. We call it "PSO" Point Seven Out. I fully believe in the odds of the dice. But I also believe in trends. We have all seen one number rolled several times in a row, or a "hot" table when the numbers come 3x as often as the seven. If you are serious, invest some money in a small craps felt layout and a good pair of dice. I don' t trust the computer models to give me a fair assessment on a strategy. Learn how to "chart a table" which is basically watching the craps game a while to see if there are trends, or the numbers are coming before just buying in and betting. Best of luck.
👍 I like this technique. I get the stink eye when I use dice control.
It takes a lot for you to lose the $300. This system has very good odds. Me and my girlfriend love this and can't wait to try it in Vegas!
hello from the future, year 2020... I've been feening to be able to go to vegas so I can try this method.. sucks that I learned it while quarantine because I've been KILLING it on the website.. how did it work out for you?
Im amazed. It actually works. It takes a bit of discipline and make sure you hedge like he says. My first attempt I turn $100 Iinto $577 and later that same day went back and turned $100 into $728. Both time i played for 1.5 hours and with only $50-$60 dont come bets. On the 2nd time I showed my friend and she turned $100 into $720. Good job and great strategy!!! Thanks.
So after watching this video I have given it a shot several different times and have had a reasonable amount of success. With that said though the tables at m casino are 10x odds tables. is there anything you should do slightly different in order to maximize wins on a 10x odds table???
I tried this strategy last night at the casino. I opted to try this on the shoot to win (electronic bets with real dice) craps because I was nervous about trying this strategy first time on a live table. The max bet on the shoot to win was $100 on the entire board so I wasn't able to use the same exact ratios used here. So instead I did the following: $3 on the pass instead of $10, $6 for my pass odds, $25 on dont come not $75, $3 on all place not $10, $3 on all come bets not $10, $6 on come odds not $20, $2 on the 11 and $3 on the hardways to hedge the don't come. I realize that doing this to the ratios severely impacts the profitability of this method but I wasn't willing to try this on a real table and risk getting the dealers angry.
Overall, I like
1. Most of the time you want a 7 to roll except for the 1st don't come roll or the 7 roll doesn't hurt as bad.
2. Lots of hedging makes you feel secure once you get past the 1st dont come roll
3. This strat makes your money last way longer than the iron cross (what I usually play) and is way less risky because of the large dont come bet.
What I dont like,
1. It really hurts getting a 7 on the 1st dont come roll. Getting those early will set you up for failure. For this reason you need at least $200 for this start with my ratios.
2. When the dont come roll lands on 5 or 9, there are no hardways to hedge your 5 or 9. So you will lose more often when your dont come rolls to 5 or 9.
3. I get confused as fuck what to do when the point is rolled, the point resets, and I still have my don't come working as well as any residual come bets that are still chilling. At that point I would usually clear everything, wait for a point to be set, and then come back out on the don't come bar and 11. However when I do this, I have come bets still working on top of my no come roll which seems counterinutivive. Can you take your come bets off after they have been placed? The shoot to win would not let me. So I would have to pray a 7 doesnt come out on the 1st dont come roll with my come bets still up there. Theres got to be something missing.
I ended up the night exactly where I started after 4 hours of playing. I started at $200. At once point was up to $295, then I was all the way down to $60, then got back to $200 and called it because I had been rolling for 4 hours.
Thank you OP for posting this. Can you please tell me what I'm doing wrong here?
The answer is no you cannot touch come or don't come bets, only the odds on them. Also, I don't like any machine or trust them. Maybe try it on a live table and see what happens.
@yaimavol you absolutely can pull down your don't bets. The only bets you can't is your pass and come bets
I will amit I was nervous when i lost my first 300 7 out back to back in the DC. 190 loss in 4 rolls but.that's the only true gamble.. Rest your a huge favor. reguardless you won me over 2400. I owe u a drink.. Lol
bob sagget you could of hopped the 7s during the dont come roll to help make up that loss.
So... I used this system, not to the T, because I still don't understand the reasoning of some of the bet, but pretty close. Lots of peaks and valleys in the wins/losses, but when you lose, you don't usually lose much, and at some points... you have a chance to more than double up. This is a great system if you catch yourself while you're up and walk away. Was at the Hard Rock, and used the "walk away when up" with this strategy... and over about 4 hours, leaving and coming back, I was $2300 up. and that was with tipping the dealers pretty well (because I can't play and not tip them, lol!)
you do have to find a decent dealer though, a few of them couldn't keep up, or were trying to steal my bets, not sure which. But you have to pay attention to which bets you have out or you will lose a few to the less-than-awesome dealers.
I tried this system few years back in vegas and it works awesome!
I’m restudying it repetitively like the first time in order to make it muscle memory, that way there’s no second guessing and it’s so damn comfortable playing craps with very strong confidence. I was floored after my first winnings of $700 cash out first evening winnings plus the $100 buy in on $5 dollor crap table. Thanks for sharing your craps strategy!
luckyfish.io/?c=suxe good luck friend :)
Ty for posting..Had seen this system before.. I love it..Was just in vegas and used it 3 days and won money everyday.. This works on a 5 dollar table too. If ur scared u dont have to max odds every time.. Works good for extra comps too and as u said keep watch on dealers and take care of them.. They will help u out..
Same I never did max odds and killed it in ac playing conservative
this is one of the better strategies I have seen
Used your strategy and won $250 at the casino yesterday. I always kept that $5 on 11 on the second roll. It saved me about 3 times. Thanks
How does this work so well wow.
When you get your DC in place, and lay all of your place bets, and then make a come bet, why not also place a $10 field bet to hedge your come bet against a 2, 3 or 12?
Tried this several times. I won a couple times, but what generally happens is I seven out on the Don't Come line, or I hit the Don't Come number up top almost immediately. I lose almost every time.
Just tried it again, lost $300 in 5 minutes lol
@@pizzaboi219 Every bet on the craps table is a negative-expectation bet (a losing bet). People who create systems want you to believe that arranging these losing bets JUST RIGHT, will turn them into positive-expectation bets (winning bets).
success with this strategy is dependent on not having a 7 hit when you put up the DC. Also not having your DC point get hit early. I've made numerous (dozens of) simulations on the Wizard site starting by betting 5,000 on the field until I get a starting bank of 200 or 300. I get wiped out more often than I get deep into 'house money' with increased bets on the points. Maybe the system is ok for tables that are lukewarm to hot, but when your DC point is hit, assuming you avoided a 7 on the DC roll, early you've lost your hedge against all of the points you've taken.
The secret to winning at Craps is learning to roll NOT 7s and to take advantage of other shooters who don't roll them. I spent 2 weeks in Reno having never played live craps before and came home with more money than I went with. PURE DUMB LUCK.
The Iron Cross strategy worked for me and I only extended my bets after collecting the chips to afford them.
The longer you stay inside a casino the more likely you will lose all your money.
Take an amount that won't kill you if you were to lose it, let's say 3 days of pay at your job.
Find a 100X odds table.
Bet the minimum on the pass line, establish a point, and bet the rest of your money on the odds.
If you lose, leave the casino.
If you win, do it again.
Your goal is to win 3 points in a row betting all your money each time. (minimum on the line and the rest on odds)
At any time you lose your stack leave.
If you win 3 points in a row. Quit and leave.
End result:
You either lose 3 days of pay, or you win big!!
Either way you were only in the casino for less than an hour.
Enjoy!
JonBenait06 Nonsense, and I've actually won this a few more times than you would believe. If 3 days pay means that much, save it up over 6 months....
Yes my job is easy, and pays well. I sacrificed my nights and weekends for many years to get to this point.
What's the alternative? Go in with $200 and hope to win $50 to leave with $250? That wouldn't even be worth the drive to the casino.
You don't have to leave the Casino, Just change games. I have had completely bad luck at Craps go over to the Roulette wheel and win big and visa versa. If I really need to slow it down just head over to the slots or play 21 or play a mundane (low ball) Progressive system at least you will be making some of your bank roll back until, new people go to the tables. Until you see the tables clear out. Then try your luck again.
I love this! You decide what your goal is, you use logic to determine the optimum betting strategy with the potential to achieve your goal, and you accept the risks involved in such an endeavor. Well played!
Tried the system in Vegas last weekend. Turned 300$ in 1000$ in 90 minutes. It is a good system, the problem is that if you loose the DC a couple of times at the very beginning, then you can go home. In summary I would say, try the system in a 5$ minimum casino and don't go crazy...PS: Do not really edge the DC...in my case I just lost money on those bets
let me correct you big guy. when you win on the dont come with a craps you are not winning 150.00 you are winning 75 and collecting 150.00 that really bothers me when people say that. getting your own money back is not a win.
lucky jiggly wiggles thank you, exactly. I can't stand when computer simulated games or people say you win back your own money. I would prefer them to say what I actually win.
I have run this strategy on a $10 min bet simulator with a $500 starting balance, lost the $500 5 times and won a bit of money the 6th time. Goes south fast when the DC bets lose.
Hey Kerry, thanks for sharing brother! I've employed the system a couple times and won a couple hundred each time. House always wins long term of course, but it's just an enjoyable way to play the game, and as you mentioned, easy way to earn comps!
Someone may have already pointed this out, but one change I would offer. Once you get to $25 place bets, it is actually better to buy the 4 remaining numbers instead of placing them. Then you win 30 for 25 on 6/8, 36 for 25 on 5/9, and 50 for 25 on 4/10 (losing $1 vig in each case) instead of 28/24, 35/25, 45/25, respectively. More important the higher you go.
Thanks again for the video!
Charlie Farris so it only nets a small win? Maybe leave after a hot shooter? Or stay until one? I guess the ultimate question is do you think that you don’t reduce the house edge or don’t gain in some cases? If that were the case the system wouldn’t work at all...
A buddy of mine and I have tried this system repeatedly in casinos and it has not failed us yet. We walk out with $500-$1000 profit every time. The system is absolutely brilliant! We have our own variation to it, as we hedge the 7 instead of the 11 on a don't come roll, as we only play for 2-3 periods. If we played for longer in one session, then it may make more sense to hedge the 11.
No combination of bets has the magical quality of being able to erase the casino's edge in the long run.
+hawaiidispenser The problem is that casino edge in the long run may mean many months not necessarily on the days one is playing.
+hawaiidispenser Very bad system; you'll lose ur ass off in the long run. maybe even
right out of the gate if u happen to run into a table that's point and
7. the best bet on the crap table is 6&8 and to bet it in a
progressive fashion. you will need $372.00 for this. $186.00 for each
#(6&8). You bet $6.,$12.,$24.,$48. and $96. progressively on each #
and go back down to min. bet when it hits. very simple, very effective
and very inexpensive to start. one more thing...don't "turn off" neither # during the "come out" rolls.
+PRES. BARACK H. OBAMA so every roll that isn't a 6 or 8 you add 6 to the #'s? or after a 7 is rolled add 6 to the #'s?
read again Nathan.
nathan galvan
Read again Nathan
question ... once you lay your place bets , and start rolling your come bets. are you taking down your place bets as you win then? or do you leave your place bets on top of the new come bet for each roll?
say you have a place on 6. you roll a 6 , come bet moved to 6. you collect your place bet, are you leaving the place bet? or taking it down since your come bet has moved there?
Looks pretty cool but I got no idea what you doing.
If you study his video over and over then just practice throwing the dice counting how long you throw before hitting 7, you’ll build muscle memory, you need confidence. I love the phrase house money!
would you say using the any seven pays 4:1 when coming out on the don't come bet? apart from or combining with the 11 bet for hedging
my 4th day playing craps and i've pretty much gotten to where i can use this system in the heat of a full craps table(it was really tough at first, seriously.. especially since my dealers didn't seem to be the best at knowing what was going on). BUT i'm up about $400 and i've been playing really conservatively. there are some sketchy rules at this table (i'm on a cruise ship), but i modified a craps app to run with the same rules as my casino and i've just been practicing on it. i've had some lows but for the most part, this system seems to consistently work. i'm VERY pleased and almost feel like i'm doing something illegal haha. not many seasoned craps players here so everyone is baffled by my crazy bets lol. it's weird how hardly anyone knows what the come/don't come means. seems like everyone here just bets on the pass, places, and maybe the hardways. i've not even really been hedging my bets with the hardways and i'm still up. i'm thinking about upping the stakes a bit tonight.. i may lose it all but we'll see *crossing fingers*
swish007
I tried this in Las Vegas, but I wasn’t very lucky. Unfortunately numerous times the 7 rolled when I bet the Don’t Pass, and when it didn’t, I’d get a 6 or 8 on the Don’t Pass, and the $75 would lose as the 6 and 8 would roll before a 7.
I have a great strategy that always pays off. I stand at the CRAPS table for hours and the casino gives me free food and drinks. Sometimes I even get a free room that allows me to stay close to the casino over night. I don't seem to be doing so well actually playing CRAPS though.
I like this strategy. I need to watch again, so maybe dumb questions, but why don't you bet odds on the pass line when you make the DC bet? Also, would you recommend this strategy without the place bets? Lots of moving parts - perhaps just accumulating spots in the register with come bets without the place bets is a way to go. Thoughts?
Because a huge DC bet makes you so vulnerable in one single roll, that I try to minimize the potential for disaster by "turning off" or removing as many other bets as possible. That way if a 7 hits you will minimize the damage to your stack. On the other hand, if you have all the points "placed" and odds on the pass line and all your come bets while you have a large DC bet, you will lose too much money id a 7 hits.
So where's the part where you make some bets for the dealers? Or I guess you can't hedge those huh? This strategy is the ultimate stroke for any crap dealer, especially on swing shift....
After winning on the point, I make a $6 hop all the 7's for the dealers. As you can clearly see this video was made on a website, where there are no dealers to tip.
kerrywsmyth oh and basically that 6$ hop 7’s is bet every roll? Or just????
Oh only after winning on the point. But every point right?
Hey tho, you mention that a better odds table would be better. Such as a 5X table perhaps? Would anything else change? Place bets? DC bet? Or just increase odds accordingly like normal? Thanks!!
Kerry, have you tried just hopping the 7's to cover your 'Don't Come' Bet? I understand why you play both lines to help minimize loss but if you are at a 5$ table and just do a 25$ DC bet then you just need 2$ on the 11, and 6$ to hop the 7's for that one roll. You are open to losing just 8$ to make sure you bet moves but I'm sure a lot of people watching don't have 300-400 to start with when they go. I try and work off 100-200 if I can- food for though anyway.
Hop the 7 on the DC! Now that is a good idea!
To clarify...the biggest hit you'll take is when the DC number is rolled followed by a 7 correct? In that scenario you just lost $150 (the original established DC and the come out DC) plus every contract bet on the table.
Try playing passline and don't pass both and lay odds when your DC is on comeout. Hedge with hardway if point is even number. Saved me quite a few times at casino.
Ron, thanks for the reply. I defin hedge the DC hard if it's even number. My question above has happened quite a bit is there any way to protect against it? Basically the table is established and I'm ready to go on a run but the DC number is rolled and I loose my $75 DC. I rebet it and the very next roll is a 7 out, so lose the DC AGAIN and all established come/ place bets. The don't pass would be a winner in this instance but how much are you putting on the DP if your pass is a $10?
A mathematically more accurate statement (notice vid title), would be:
"Best CRAPS Strategy - turn $4000+ into $300"
ArtOfBaccarat Simply because every possible bet you can make has a house edge, (except the odds bet which is even even, but cannot ever be made without first making another house edge bet).
This means over the long term everyone loses at this game -- no matter what corny little strategy might be employed. And no matter what you might have done in the short term.
ArtOfBaccarat As with any of these table games it is possible to stack up $4000 in a short while using large bets -- but it is also a little more likely that you will lose that amount. One doesn't have to understand the game to appreciate that fact.
As far as house edge, it has the very lowest -- it is the best game, IF PLAYED CORRECTLY. (Roulette is the worst table game). There are a very large number of possible bets at craps, the most of which are very bad bets. The house depends upon people playing those many bad bets.
Craps is not a complicated game, it just seems so because of the large number of bets possible.
37rainman he did say that some days he would burn through 1000 and get nothing but get 4000 on 300.
Watch the video before you make a rebuttal
37rainman
Where can I learn to play craps correctly?
Hilarious! Lmao
Used this system in Vegas started with $300.00 and walked out the casino 2 hours later with $725 after tipping the dealer $20.00. Had a lot of fun with plenty of high fives going on around the table. Got hairy for a moment when my bank went down to $100. So it felt great to walk out with a few hundred. I practiced this system on the simulator for a week and then 2 days before my trip I discovered your modified system but I had already invested too much time learning this system so I stuck with it.
I've watched this video about 75 times !!!!
Dealers don’t like taking down bets! And they don’t like helping win... this method is still very good. You’re loosing too much on the field. If you feel a seven is coming bet higher on the come bar instead of maxing odds above. A seven is rolled out of every six rolls normally
Damn used your strategy all was going great and then lost all and my wife was pissed when we had to share the a meal at McDonald's :(
Don't ever bet money that you can't afford to lose.
In the Loozers Lounge at the Laughlin Riverside Resort
any better now my frend ace
At 7:50 you talk about your introduction tutorial video, can you please provide me a link to that?
Where were you when I was in school if shit was explained to me that easy I'd be a millionaire thanks for the info and knowledge I feel more powerful already when I put a few tricks in my sleeve for the casinos next time I visit by the way I live in Las Vegas Nevada greatest state in the country and city in the world holla.
Just came back from Vegas and in talking with some dealers came up with a better tweak on your system. After the tweak ended up making over $100 every time we played. We normally play for about an hour at a time. The tweak has to do with ditching the come bets.
mwz 524 I agree
Every single craps "strategy" video on TH-cam is bullshit, this one is extra bad. Anyone playing 4,5,9 or 10 is clueless, those are terrible bets. The only strategy is how much money do you want at risk ? Play the pass or don't pass, come or don't come, take odds, place only 6 and 8. Avoid every other bet. You are now one of the top 1% of all craps players. You're welcome.
You would be largely correct if your strategy is to play bets with the lowest house edge at all times. But you are discounting the fact that a "BUY" 4 and 10 (which isn't discussed much here) is just as good as place 6/8, and since you can also buy a 5/9 for up to $38 for only a dollar and only if it wins, you can minimize the house edge there as well. And also, there is no stopping anyone from using this strategy with no hedging on 11 and the hard ways. Its riskier in the short run, but you're right, in the long run the house edge is higher on those bets. In the end you'll need to get lucky, even with your strategy.
Yep. Biggest mistake I see is players pressing so aggressively that they give back a ton when a hot roll ends and placing all the numbers instead of just the 6/8 or making come bets. Or in sticking to some bs system instead of having fun and hoping for luck :)
Jeff F luck we trying to win lol waiting on a hot shooter is luck this about money kerry good looks i'll try it out..
Yep, Jeff. I think I agree with you. This video has you playing a bunch of bets all with negative expected values, so in the long run the mathematics wins for the casino. You want to put the least amount of money down with bad odds, and playing the Pass or Don't Pass would be it, while taking or laying the odds (for which the House has no edge).
+blogdorf, if the top concern for you is that all bets at a casino have a house edge, you should never put a single dollar on ANY bet in a casino. Because they ALL have a house edge. Those that criticize casino betting strategies for this reason alone are obviously missing the point. Its as if you came here hoping to find a full-proof way to beat the casino or something. If you ever believed that then that is YOUR problem, not ours. As for focus in on low % house edge bets, you'll see that I ALWAYS bet minimum on pass and come, the bet MAXIMUM on odds. There is no better way to bet in the entire casino. The only questionable bets are the big don't come and the moderate sized place bets. Well first of all, even though the DC flat bet is large, the overall house edge on a DC bet is one of the lowest in the casino. And as for the place bets, hell even Jeff admits that 6 and 8 are acceptable and what you don't know is that in a real casino I BUY the 4,5,9 and 10 which give you better odds. All that being said, I would challenge anyone on the net to show me a system that allows you to bet as much money and demonstrate it winning as I did that has a lower overall house edge. I doubt anyone can.
I was going to ask what I should do when you get to a point where you have all numbers in play, with max odds on everything. The $75 DC and $10 COME bet can only hedge $85. If the point is 6, and the DC is 8, I might have $10 on PASS, $50 odds, $10 COME 4 with $30 odds, $10 on COME 5 with $40 odds, $10 on COME 9 with $40 odds, and $10 on COME 10 with $30 odds, and $10 on the HARD EIGHT. That is $250 on the table that will be lost with a 7, with only $85 winning with DC and COME. I understand you have to win a lot to get to that point, but it may make sense to place odds on the DC at some point.
This video should be titled "Wfatch someone get lucky at craps with fake money"
managed to figure out a strategy if you don't feel comfortable having your dc point on a common number such as 6 and 8, if you bet the don't come bar with the come bar you can max odds on the point and hedge it with the hard 6 or 8, decreasing money lost if six or 8 hits and in such a case a hard six rolls and dc is on but max odds is on and depending how much you have on the hard six, you may even win money against the loss of your dc bet