The back spool holder on the Bambu is for single color prints. It can't be used as a 5th color. More than 4 colors requires additional AMS units. You can connect up to 4, I believe, for 16 colors. But imagine the waste! For the XL issues, I'm guessing you're printing PLA, which doesn't adhere as well to the textured or satin sheets. I prefer using the smooth sheet (which you have to buy separately) for PLA, but you can also lay down some glue. Another option is to make the base/brim of the support larger so it's less likely to get pulled off. If you catch a support about to come loose like that one, drop a couple magnets on the brim to help hold it down.
Excellent video! Sorry for the lengthy comment in advance. I was initially leaning toward the Prusa XL, thinking it would finally meet my needs, but after watching your video, I’m now unsure about whether it’s the right choice for my specific requirements. To give you some context, what I primarily need from a 3D printer isn’t necessarily speed, but precision. I often prototype intricate parts that must fit together with tight tolerances, so accuracy is key. I was initially drawn to the Prusa XL for its build volume, which I thought would be ideal, as my typical print heights range from 2” (50mm) to a maximum of 14” (356mm). While I mostly work with single-color prints, I’m also open to multi-color or multi-material options when needed, like the XL promises. However, the most critical aspect for me is achieving a smooth surface finish akin to SLA prints, but without the associated hassle of maintaining an SLA printer. I’ve heard that the Prusa XL’s slicer now includes the Arachne perimeter generator, which promises improved print quality, and that was something I found promising. Based on your extensive experience with various machines, I’d love to hear your thoughts on which printer would best meet these needs. Specifically, I’m looking for precision, ease of use, and the ability to deliver professional quality prototypes, without the maintenance demands of an SLA system. I trust your judgment and would greatly appreciate any suggestions or guidance on what to consider next in my search. Should I keep waiting or should I take the plunge? Thanks again for all the valuable content you create, it’s been a huge help!
Go with Bambu all the way. The Prusa is great in concept but severely lacking on execution. If you need high quality prints, that bambu would be where I would start and you can get 3 X1C printers for the price of that XL.
if you need the size but not the multi colour aspect and you dont want an xl your best option is a 350 mm voron 2.4 , once dialed in they are work horses.
I have 2 XLs and 4 MK4s. You have to wash the satin sheets with dawn dish soap every once in a while. IPA does not cut it with satin sheets. Satin sheets are also more likely to have adhesion issues for smaller parts. If you are doing a lot of small parts in PLA get a smooth sheet you will almost never get detachments and it clean much more consistently with IPA. I have never used glue. Also on the satin sheets do your best to never touch the build plate with your hands, there is oil on your hands and will cause you to have to wash it with dish soap way more often.
We change build plates with a clean one every print. We have 2 satin and just ordered a smooth/textured double sided plate. Hopefully this thing will start printing.
I'm running 3 x AMS'es .. not so much because I do multicol prints, but those AMS'se are an ideal place to store Filaments "in a dry environment" and changes are good you do not have to swap filaments for your next print. Fantastic for lacy people ;-)
Mixing filaments in supports can be trouble, no matter what printer. This has been the worst for me with PLA. PETG and ABS almost never have an issue. PETG is stickier, and ABS bonds better. If sticking to one material isn't an option, change your settings. Either add more perimeters on the supports, or don't use organic supports. A denser grid support will be less efficient, but the structure is more robust, and less fragile. And of course the golden rule for most printing issues, slow down. Some supports just have to be printed really slow. You mention the smooth PLA sheet in another comment, these are hands down the best first layer adhesion surfaces for PLA! Really wish Prusa gave us the option on the XL, as they still have it as the default on the MK and Mini line.If you haven't discovered it yet, Printed Solid is the US based arm of Prusa for parts and they do provide service. So sorry you have had so many issues. My XL has been a dream, and I had nothing but pain and suffering with the Bambu machines.
On the P1S, you can't use the back spool holder. I thought this was the case for the x1c, but I could be wrong. I'm unable to route the filament from the back spool holder with the AMS installed.
You can't use the back spool holder and the AMS at the same time, I think is what you meant - and yeah same on my X1C. You can however connect up to four AMS's to a single Bambu printer via that AMS hub thing
You can use the back spool holder if you print a Y connector or buy the 4-1 connector from bambu. Ams will do its thing as normal, but you will have to feed/unfeed the back spool by hand
I guess z high difference between extruders causing layer adhesion issue and support to break off after color change? Btw I own only bambu X1C and mk4s. Still thinking about XL as Îm just hobbist and price tag is little high just to play arround for fun
you need to change your support settings so its one base instead of a bunch of parts. change the expansion of your support brim so it all connects to one piece.
Hairspray, quick, dirty, simple fix seriously improves bed adhesion. If you can get it, the loriel extra, hold stuff works brilliantly.
Bought a new textured/smooth plate so we will see.
The back spool holder on the Bambu is for single color prints. It can't be used as a 5th color. More than 4 colors requires additional AMS units. You can connect up to 4, I believe, for 16 colors. But imagine the waste!
For the XL issues, I'm guessing you're printing PLA, which doesn't adhere as well to the textured or satin sheets. I prefer using the smooth sheet (which you have to buy separately) for PLA, but you can also lay down some glue. Another option is to make the base/brim of the support larger so it's less likely to get pulled off. If you catch a support about to come loose like that one, drop a couple magnets on the brim to help hold it down.
I just ordered a smooth sheet and I really like the magnet idea!
I like the part where you compare the X1C to the XL
Excellent video! Sorry for the lengthy comment in advance. I was initially leaning toward the Prusa XL, thinking it would finally meet my needs, but after watching your video, I’m now unsure about whether it’s the right choice for my specific requirements. To give you some context, what I primarily need from a 3D printer isn’t necessarily speed, but precision. I often prototype intricate parts that must fit together with tight tolerances, so accuracy is key. I was initially drawn to the Prusa XL for its build volume, which I thought would be ideal, as my typical print heights range from 2” (50mm) to a maximum of 14” (356mm). While I mostly work with single-color prints, I’m also open to multi-color or multi-material options when needed, like the XL promises. However, the most critical aspect for me is achieving a smooth surface finish akin to SLA prints, but without the associated hassle of maintaining an SLA printer. I’ve heard that the Prusa XL’s slicer now includes the Arachne perimeter generator, which promises improved print quality, and that was something I found promising.
Based on your extensive experience with various machines, I’d love to hear your thoughts on which printer would best meet these needs. Specifically, I’m looking for precision, ease of use, and the ability to deliver professional quality prototypes, without the maintenance demands of an SLA system. I trust your judgment and would greatly appreciate any suggestions or guidance on what to consider next in my search. Should I keep waiting or should I take the plunge?
Thanks again for all the valuable content you create, it’s been a huge help!
Go with Bambu all the way. The Prusa is great in concept but severely lacking on execution. If you need high quality prints, that bambu would be where I would start and you can get 3 X1C printers for the price of that XL.
@@monkeybraincreationsExcellent, thank you! 👍
if you need the size but not the multi colour aspect and you dont want an xl your best option is a 350 mm voron 2.4 , once dialed in they are work horses.
@@jean-marcgruninger9019 Thank you.
I have 2 XLs and 4 MK4s. You have to wash the satin sheets with dawn dish soap every once in a while. IPA does not cut it with satin sheets. Satin sheets are also more likely to have adhesion issues for smaller parts. If you are doing a lot of small parts in PLA get a smooth sheet you will almost never get detachments and it clean much more consistently with IPA. I have never used glue.
Also on the satin sheets do your best to never touch the build plate with your hands, there is oil on your hands and will cause you to have to wash it with dish soap way more often.
We change build plates with a clean one every print. We have 2 satin and just ordered a smooth/textured double sided plate. Hopefully this thing will start printing.
I'm running 3 x AMS'es .. not so much because I do multicol prints, but those AMS'se are an ideal place to store Filaments "in a dry environment" and changes are good you do not have to swap filaments for your next print. Fantastic for lacy people ;-)
Mixing filaments in supports can be trouble, no matter what printer. This has been the worst for me with PLA. PETG and ABS almost never have an issue. PETG is stickier, and ABS bonds better. If sticking to one material isn't an option, change your settings. Either add more perimeters on the supports, or don't use organic supports. A denser grid support will be less efficient, but the structure is more robust, and less fragile. And of course the golden rule for most printing issues, slow down. Some supports just have to be printed really slow. You mention the smooth PLA sheet in another comment, these are hands down the best first layer adhesion surfaces for PLA! Really wish Prusa gave us the option on the XL, as they still have it as the default on the MK and Mini line.If you haven't discovered it yet, Printed Solid is the US based arm of Prusa for parts and they do provide service. So sorry you have had so many issues. My XL has been a dream, and I had nothing but pain and suffering with the Bambu machines.
So yeah, I use a single filament for the supports. I have very few support issues since I started doing that.
Cant wait for the XL v2
Try a smooth sheet and glue with PLA, the satin sheet never works great for me. Also are you combining something that’s not PLA ?
No it's all pla
On the P1S, you can't use the back spool holder. I thought this was the case for the x1c, but I could be wrong. I'm unable to route the filament from the back spool holder with the AMS installed.
You can't use the back spool holder and the AMS at the same time, I think is what you meant - and yeah same on my X1C. You can however connect up to four AMS's to a single Bambu printer via that AMS hub thing
You can use the back spool holder if you print a Y connector or buy the 4-1 connector from bambu. Ams will do its thing as normal, but you will have to feed/unfeed the back spool by hand
My guess thst the Prusa XL swap is that there's a little height difference between the print heads causing collision with the supports.
I can't find a setting to level each head. The 1st extruder does at the start but none of the others do
My guess exactly. Speaking from experience with a Flashforge Creator Pro. Never got the (just 2) heads leveled to same height.
I guess z high difference between extruders causing layer adhesion issue and support to break off after color change? Btw I own only bambu X1C and mk4s. Still thinking about XL as Îm just hobbist and price tag is little high just to play arround for fun
you need to change your support settings so its one base instead of a bunch of parts. change the expansion of your support brim so it all connects to one piece.
I have that updated for my 2nd go. Will update
awesome
Dont use satin for PLA...... Use PEI Print Sheet for PLA.
This is a terrible comparison. The XL is better seeing as the X1 can't do multi- extrusion
But the bambu actually prints. The XL just sits there failing