I've spoken with at least one or two people that have before... I'm sure many people did! It's a neat secret in my opinion! I always named myself Link growing up so why wouldn't someone name themselves Zelda?
I recall my friend doing that unknowingly and when he got to level 1, he freaked out when the layout was different and then when he tried to find level 2....oh boy.
"Grumble, Grumble..." :) I've beaten Zelda multiple times, and the 2nd Quest surely will rattle your brains and test your patience. It's worth it in the end. I even once beat this game on 12 hearts instead of 16! Your thoughts expressed are as lovely as your voice. Straight facts. Well done!
This video inspired me to take on the challenge myself. I started three days ago, and finally conquered it today without any other kind of guide. So I just wanted to thank you because this quest actually made me love the game much more. I was pleasantly surprised by how well laid out the dungeons were. Despite the evil enemy combinations, the puzzles in them constantly impressed me. And like you said, hearing the old men speak in new riddles, and finding secrets in cool areas I once thought were impossible, filled me with tons of excitement. I felt like the possibilities were endless once again. It's so gratifying to finally beat the game and see "END OF THE LEGEND OF ZELDA" at last. In a way, the 2nd quest feels like the true quest.
It is dangerous to go alone, Take God Almighty, the power of power, LORD of Lords, with ability to do anything he pleases. Just keep love in your heart.
That was pretty much my experience as well when I decided to take up the second quest 20 years ago. Even though it was, and still is, my favorite game, I had no idea it had a 2nd quest! The playthrough was so fresh, fun, interesting, challenging, and frustrating. Those red bubbles were the worst! And it took me way too long to figure out that I needed to walk through a wall. Almost every screen had a secret, and my curiosity for checking out each screen allowed me to discover secrets in the first quest that I'd never found before either, including a heart container that I never knew existed. :)
I'm so glad you enjoyed the second quest as much as you did. It's a significant increase in difficulty in virtually every way, but totally worth it. I'm so grateful for the experience even if Level 4 made me want to scream sometimes.
@@hungrygoriya Same! And if I recall correctly, finding level 3 or 4 - whichever one was on the screen below the original palace five, took me forever to find! In any case, thanks for making this video - I really resonated with your experience :)
The original Zelda was my first game too. I think I was 4 or 5 years old, coming home from my Uncle's House and was super excited to tell my mom about how I played the "Lee-Gend of Zelda". When we would end up getting an NES later that year, my mom would end up playing with me quite a bit. She was the one who was patient enough to farm rupees, and some of the really hard Blue Darknut rooms would require her to help me out, because she was patient enough to wait in the door and backstab them. Took me a few years to gain that level of patience :D Grumble, Grumble... was a cute finish for this one
I'm so glad you got to play this as a little one too! Sounds like you made some great memories with your mom. I'm sure my mom helped me with making maps for this game when I was little, but I don't remember her playing it with me. She was more of a SMB2 fan!
Great insight. I wish that sometimes I could have a memory wipe so I can play the entire game again without knowing where everything is. Playing the second quest was one of the most challenging and rewarding video game experiences I ever had.
If you are willing to utilize an emulator (computer program that emulates a Nintendo), there are several very very good hacks of LoZ that recreate the experience of whole new quests, wildly new maps, reskins of items, sometimes even pulling sprites from other games. Clever folks hacked the game files and created some wild remakes using the same programing and AI etc. There is a little learning curve to installing these and patching the game, however I had the chance to do so in the past and it was good fun.
I regularly claim OG LOZ is my favorite game ever but I've never completed that 2nd quest. I don't think I ever found the third dungeon. Thanks for the inspiration!
Right? I was pretty much in the same boat as you until I finally played through it myself... I'm a big believer in that if I can do it, so can you! It just takes a bit of patience and thoroughness to see it to the end.
Nintendo Power released a 'Zelda Collectors Guide' in the Gamecube era that has a full walkthrough w/ maps for Zelda 2nd Quest.....I found it locally a few years ago for a few bucks
Yes the 2nd quest is wicked. But I'd say the begining is the hardest part. Also some dungeons are really hard to find, but at least you can skip to another one.
"It's not often that you get a chancer to revisit a world you know like the back of your hand again, just the way you remember it, especially if you don't mind a little extra challenge on the side." While not a second quest, this is precisely why I LOVED Link Between Worlds. My first Zeld game was A Link To The Past, and then when Link Between Worlds came out and I realized it had essentially the exact same map and an identical alternate world, I got extremely excited and I wasn't let down at all! Your quote there at the end is perfect and so absolutely true
That's very kind of you to say... I'm glad it resonated with you as well. I've spoken with a few people about A Link Between Worlds and have heard the same kind of sentiment from them as well, so I'm glad you got to have that experience with your first Zelda :) It's definitely a meaningful experience to have.
I am definitely one of those that has beaten this game several times, but would always hesitate to play the 2nd quest. Your video has inspired me. Thank you!! (fear really does paralyze you)
When I first played Zelda's second quest, the only help I had came from knowledge of quest 1, and hearing about the existence of fake walls. Everything else from the whistle's new power, to the old men mugging you, to the dungeons and their locations, that was all completely blind. It was an extremely long and draining journey. But I will never forget the feeling of finally discovering a new dungeon. Or how utterly amazed I was stumbling across one of the whistle spots for the first time. Or the really clever way Level 8 was hidden. Or how Level 9 felt like an impossible riddle for a while. It's as if they took the experience of beating Level 7 in Quest 1 and spread it across the game, it was unlike anything I'd ever pulled off before. And so, finally I beat Ganon again having not used a guide for the game at all........ except for this one elusive heart container that I accidentally saw the location of on a livestream after days of searching in the game. In a spot that I somehow convinced myself I'd already checked. Ergh...
It's rare to be able to experience a great game brand new again. I loved my time with the second quest (except Level 4... boooo!) but I'm happy you also had a really fulfilling experience making your way through this game too. I agree with all of your sentiments... it's a really special experience.
@@hungrygoriya What made me angry was the fact that Level 8 really likes Dodongos. _Really_ likes them. The decision to make the one boss that requires bombs be the only boss type to respawn is... oi. But yeah Level 9, having that one room be like some weird riddle you're never actually supposed to solve was pretty unique.
Just hearing the music just takes me back year's ago playing hours and hours Zelda and Link. Good times. The NES was the 80s greatest invention. It was a great time to be a kid in those days.
@@glowingunknown5625 I never had a G.I. Joe, but definitely had the others. We got a lot of toys as hand-me-downs from neighbours growing up so I had some pretty cool stuff :D
Here's are a few things that will make the second quest go easier for everyone. 1) Don't go after the secret for Everybody's Right away, especially the 100. Grind out the initial batch of rupees and make sure the absolute first thing that you do is get the Blue Ring before even heading to level 1. 2) After Level 1 head for the graveyard and scounge up more rupees and grab the heart container there, The ghost takes 9 hits, hit eight times and then unleash the rest of the ghosts then hit the ghosts 1 more time. Then grab the power bracelet and the letter and head for the white sword. 3) After Level 3 head for level 6, slip inside and grab the ladder and head back out. After you have powered up and grabbed the isolated heart container, head for Level 8! This is the key. Clearing this level makes the rest of the levels before 9 a piece of cake.
yeah, the thing with the 2nd quest is that for later levels you always want to have a lot of rupees because of the "leave your money or your life" and "I bet you'd like to have more bombs" old man rooms in some of the levels, mainly level 7, but I actually found a way to get around 1 of them so I only had to pay 50 rupees instead of 100
Oh man, the nostalgia. Imagine being 7 years old when this game out. No internet, just you and your dad passing the controller back and forth and finally beating the game... only to be greeted with the "Oh hey, there's a new quest" message after seeing the credits roll. Well, we were used to ColecoVision games, or the standard "post game mode" of early NES titles like Kung Fu, where the game just cranked the difficulty up to 11 and nothing really changed other than the game throwing 3x the enemies at you and them moving at 2x speed or doing 2x damage. So, we started it up expecting "Zelda, but either the same or enemies that one-shot you". It was one of the coolest moments of my young life when we realized that the entire overworld was remixed - caves in new places, DUNGEONS in new places, treasures out of order, and even entire new mechanics like WALKING THROUGH DUNGEON WALLS instead of bombing them. I love Zelda's Second Quest so much.
I found your channel through Erin Plays channel. I am 38 years old, so this kind of content is right up my alley. I like the little personal moments, and stories that other people share. I find it rather endearing, and sweet. 😊
I'm really appreciative that Erin mentioned me in her video... she's wonderful! And thanks for your kindness about the personal touches in this video too. I try to make my reviews a bit more like that since I also enjoy hearing from people about how they felt about a game, or a bit about their personal gaming history to set the stage for their perspective on a what they're reviewing.
Having played the games and studied classical piano, relying on notes and maps is the worst way to learn. It is far better to train your memory and accept mistakes. You also learn to improvise and try new things, instead of the exact same recipe every time.
@@TimBowSpice Music teacher here - totally depends on the learner. If you have a hard time visualizing things in your head, then sheet music and maps can be absolutely critical (and when I say visualize, that includes how one interprets notes in their head as they improvise). Besides, making maps can be really fun!
@@TheChilaxicle , I also teach, making maps/charts is important and fun, but not 'needing' them to play is also very important. I have seen too many panic if they don't have their security blanket, even as adults. It is like needing a calculator everytime, or needing GPS. When do the training wheels come off the bike?
@@TimBowSpice It is nothing like needing a GPS or calculator, as those do so much of the work for you. But let's extend your analogy. By that logic, scientists could have created all the technology we have without calculators. Space X rockets would just have to "sense" where to land without GPS. To compare maps and sheet music to training wheels is ridiculous, as professionals VERY MUCH still use those. Sure you might see a jazz group or chamber quartet where everyone is playing by memory, but the practical demands of an orchestra schedule or soundtrack recording means that reading sheet music is a REQUIREMENT of the job. In addition, do you think sailors just navigate around without maps?
@@TheChilaxicle, the analogy was specifically for piano playing. When you see a pianist play a concerto, do they use sheet music? Not the piano player, not during the performance. The orchestra will of course, but not the pianist. Both sides are necessary, but I knew an organist who could not play a piece of music that didn't have his specific fingering written in, even if he has been playing it beautifully for years. Take away his crutch, and he would crumble. I was able to do better on the first try with no fingerings written in. Going right to NASA about calculators? What about adults that are unable to calculate a 20% tip in their head for a $100 restaurant bill? Or adults that cannot find their local grocery store without GPS, even though they have been going there for years? First world problems enrage me. I teach both sides of the coin, I still can sight read a song I have never heard before, and I still play songs I memorized 25 years ago without the sheet music. And I put arrangements into notation, but also follow a chord chart if the situation calls for it. Teachers with their outdated cookie cutter approach are just plagerizing in my eyes, and creating a dependance.
so a tip with burnable bushes: they are only found in a full column of bushes where you burn the third from the top and a forked set of bushes will have the secret 5th from the bottom. the only exceptions are found in bottom pairs of trees below the water tiles.
Hey so this is the first time I've ever seen any of your videos before and I got to say, I love it! I mean this in a complimentary way, but your videos have a very old school TH-cam aesthetic. You're not an angry video game reviewer and you're not trying to sound cool and make jokes all the time - your videos are actually somewhat relaxing and pretty informative. There's a sense of humility and almost relatability to your voice, since you're not trying to speak like an announcer for some big name Broadcasting Network. Additionally, your voice has a very relaxing tone as well. Overall, this was a breath of fresh air and I just subscribed. 😊 EDIT: also I wanted to mention that it's a very slight detail, but I like the way the NES games look when you put them in your video. It doesn't look like you played it off of an emulator, it actually looks a little bit more pixel heavy as if you recorded it from a TV. Small details, but just another reason why your video really stands out to me in a good way
Thank you for a very thoughtful message! That's exactly what I'm going for when I put these reviews together, so I'm happy that's what's coming through on the other side. And all my videos have gameplay footage from my own playthroughs that I record with the original hardware. NES is one of the consoles I don't have a high-quality output for (some people modify their consoles to output RGB, but mine is not modded), but you'll see with my other consoles that the footage is a lot crisper. I do use an upscaler and a higher output for everything, but I love how cozy NES looks with regular old composite.
I also took a long break between finishing the first quest and finishing the second one that lasted years. It helped that more Zelda games kept getting released in the mean time. There's definitely something about going from the status of having beaten a game back to the status of still playing it and struggling that makes it tempting to leave well enough alone.
So YT finally recommended this video to me, and I don't regret watching it. It's /fascinating/ seeing people's first experiences with the first quest, and it was really cool seeing your first experience with the second quest! That experience you got is exactly why I love Zelda 1 randomizers. It's intimidating at first, but it's a good time.
Oh wow really? I'm glad it got recommended to you! I played the first quest a ton throughout my life and really appreciated everything the second quest brought along with it. I just recently learned a little bit about how Zelda 1 randomizers work (with the trackers, etc.) so I'm inclined to try one sometime... any new-to-me Zelda is a welcome thing! Another experience that really made me feel like I was playing Zelda 1 for the first time again was Golden Axe Warrior for the Master System. Have you heard of that one before? It was really, really good! A few different mechanics, some magic and towns, etc. but very much a top down, exploration-based adventure game where you need to search every nook and cranny.
That was a very fun review, it brought back a bunch of memories. I'm of the age where we all had to trade game tips and secrets on the playground. This 'social network' was vital in attempting to conquer the Legend of Zelda. I distinctly remember telling a buddy that I was starting the second quest and he clued me in to the dungeon's invisible doorways. I thought he was BS-ing me until I found out he was right!
I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! I feel like we must be quite close in age then. I'm just as old as the game itself but I lived under a rock most of my childhood and nobody I knew was playing the same games as me so I had nobody to ask about it at the time. I wish I could remember exactly how I came to know of the second quest. I do remember trying to type my name in as Zelda in my teens but have no idea why I knew to do that. I never had a subscription to Nintendo Power, nor did I ever know anyone that had one at the time. What a help it could've been! I will say that streaming this game with people just an ask away was really encouraging, and I got that "sharing tips and gossip" feeling. I don't think there's a chance I could've done it without the audience to chat with while exploring. And yeah, the walking through walls bit was so counter-intuitive to me. I wouldn't have tried that on my own in a million years but it was such an integral part of the gameplay! I'm excited to sit down and read through the Nintendo Power tips I showed here and see if there's anything else I could've done to make my life easier.
I used to think you had to bomb the illusion walls in order to walk through them. I didn't find out to that was an unnecessary step until I was an adult. 😂
@@hungrygoriya NES games used to come with a little card that told about the Zelda naming cheat. If that one wasn't in there, it was a card telling you some kind of Punch Out!! code. I don't remember what it did.
@@hungrygoriya I did some searching and found it. It was called Another World Circuit. It can only be accessed by entering the special passcode 135-792-4680 in the passcode continue option and simultaneously pressing the A, B, and Select buttons to enter it. So, it's like the Punch Out!! second quest. lol
Thanks so much for checking this out! I am glad I finally bit the bullet, faced my fears and pushed through this game. I'd like to hear about your experience if you get back to it sometime. I need more games that make me feel like I'm playing Zelda for the first time again.
I had a similar experience. Zelda was such a formative piece of my childhood, and after playing it so thoroughly throughout the years, I had the first quest completely under my thumb. I could beat it (get all the way to Ganon) without a sword. The second quest was utterly intimidating. Hyrule had become my comfort zone, and to take something so familiar and make it new again was like a fever dream. And the labyrinths were so much harder! So when I did finally beat it, I got to recapture the exhilaration I must have felt decades before when Zelda was still new to me.
I'm glad you got to experience that rush again! I can't say I can beat the game with no sword, nor am I as familiar with the first quest as you, but the jump into something brand new was pretty exciting. Right on!
I remember playing the NES BS Zelda on an emulator ages ago. It's a very similar experience in many way, but the way you are fighting the clock in order to complete these dungeons quickly in different sessions changes how you have to play. Every instinct you have still wants to be thorough, but being too thorough will leave you unable to complete everything you need in time. It's not hard though, so don't feel like it's overwhelming. I actually like second quest more than the first, aside from a few little issues (dungeon 4 is punishing). The dungeon layouts, and the one way doors really do a lot to turn the maps into elaborate but satisfying to solve mazes. Especially dungeon 9.
Oooo yeah, I don't think I'd appreciate a clock very much. I'm pretty methodical when I play through games with a checklist of sorts to go down while exploring, but if it's as easy as you're saying, maybe it won't be so bad. I guess the only way to find out is to try it. I do appreciate the second quest a lot, but there's something about the first that just feels like home. I agree with you about the puzzles feeling more rewarding there though... they're tough enough that you'd be solving them "fresh" again after a break away from the game. Dungeon 9 was awesome. I made a map and crossed off walls I tried walking through and bombing. It was great when I finally made it to Ganon!
@@hungrygoriya Oh yeah, you'd be fine. It's nothing like second quest Zelda. It's paced to fit the time frame. If you've done Majora's Mask you can probably do this. And having never played Golden Axe Warrior and seeing it now, it looks like I have something new to try myself!
@@OnlineVideoSurfer I haven't tried Majora's Mask yet, but it's definitely intriguing. Thanks for filling me in... I'll be curious to get it going sometime. And Golden Axe Warrior is really, really good. I hope you have a blast with it! It was one of the main things that lit the fire under me to start collecting for the Master System.
This video is fantastic! I love all of your maps and notes. I still have some that I saved from childhood. I knew you were gonna bring up Level 4. Oh boy, that's where the 2nd quest separates the Goriyas from the Octorocks, ha ha! I'm so glad that I just played through it again. I honestly think I like Zelda even a bit more now after discovering a newfound appreciation for a 30+ year old game that actually has two completely different quests in it! It's pretty crazy to think about now. Great job with this one!
Thank you so much... this whole video felt like me pouring my heart out for a game I keep very close to it so I'm glad that you and others are enjoying it. It's not just nostalgia either for me... it's just a genuinely great game with lots of exploration and challenge, and I loved Golden Axe Warrior just as much. Even playing through a bit of Spiritual Warfare last year had me all pumped to play Zelda again! So exciting! And don't even get me started on level 4. What a pain in the asssss. I'd rather play through Level 9 again blind before that one! I'm glad the mighty Goriya in me rose up! Thanks again for that tip about the thing I needed to do in there... it would've made me insane. The two different quests is so cool. When did they start doing that again? Ocarina of Time? It would've been amazing in Link's Awakening! And yeah, I'll totally keep you posted on BS Zelda if I find anything. I'm guessing there are repros or something out there and I'd be inclined to buy those up!
I just stumbled across this video. It was fun to relive my childhood and to know that other people had similar experiences. I was laughing and thinking about the trauma that level 4 caused me back then...and then you brought it up. Funny. Thank you for the memories! :-)
The fact that you still have the original map all taped together and filled in with notes and hints is the coolest shit ever. Most kids back then failed to realize that the game was meant to be played with the map laid out right there in front of you. Most of them just threw it away.
Funnily enough, I beat second quest before I beat the first one with use of the Zelda name code. Reason was Death Mountain. First quest was a skull shape that I never was able to find my way through with out a map that showed which walls you could bomb, I would try all of them and run out of bombs then forget which ones I had tried, not to mention there are some monsters that required bombs to beat. Second quest Death Mountain was much more straight forward and I didn't need a map for it at all.
A buddy and I used to try to beat this one when he'd come over. The furthest we ever made it was level 7. Later I managed to beat it and mastering the second quest made it my favorite entry. No other Zelda game is as hard as the original.
It's definitely a tough run, and I couldn't have dreamed of making it to the end as a kid. No way! I'm glad you finally made it through. This one and Link's Awakening are standouts for me.
So glad you had such fun with Zelda's Second Quest. I did it once when I was little and wow do I still remember the entrance to level 7's location many many years later because that one stumped me the hardest and was the last one I found. I was in full bomb every rock and burn every bush mode and there are a LOT of bushes on the map!
I eyeball the heck out of that bush when I play the first quest now because I also got stuck looking for it for such a long time! I'm honestly sad you get the red candle so late in the second quest considering how essential bush burning is.
@@hungrygoriya Not getting the red candle so late really feels like one of those things where tedious is mistaken for "hard" as a function of design. Watching you burn one bush and go back and forth in order to burn another gave me intense flashbacks to my own experience.
It was years ago that I finally tackled the Second Quest, but I was pleasantly surprised by how involved it was. So much to seek out, so much to learn. I really appreciated it.
That's wonderful. I'm so happy you enjoyed your time with it. Apart from Level 4 being awful, I loved the rest of it. I think I'd really enjoy randomizers for the same reason too... just getting to experience a favourite in a brand new way!
@@hungrygoriya I think Level 4 was a stumbling block for me, too. Mostly due to the blue and red bubbles, and not understanding how they worked. Hiding an item behind the triforce room was deviously nasty, and I'm kind of impressed by it.
@@DragonRaiderX9 The last place you'd think to look, right? I was thrown off by the fact that there are two items to find there as well! The bubbles are just awful. If I could've removed anything from the second quest, it would've been them.
If you want another great take on a third and fouth quest, the Zelda Outlands ROM hack is great. An all new overworld and two new set of dungeons, along with some new enemy sprites.
Thank you for the information! I'll take as much of this game as I can get. There are so many Zelda ROM hacks out there that I never know where to start with them, so I really appreciate the explanation.
There’s a ton of NES rom hacks. Some better than others. Still more enjoyable to me than playing the new bloated games nowadays. NES Zelda has a certain charm that nothing else has ever had
I've yet to beat either quest. I remeber renting this a lot as a kid and one time putting Zelda as the name and BAM second quest. Blew my 4 year old mind
They were definitely thinking when they made entering Zelda as a name a way to fast-track things. I remember trying the second quest for about 20 minutes sometime in my teens and never looking back. It was too much to work on, but streaming the game with an audience was probably the best way to play it. Advice at your fingertips and people to share all the twists with. I hope you'll give it another whirl sometime. It's one of my favourites!
Fun fact, and something I learned around 1994 after being frustrated with being unable to save when using a Game Genie with the A-V-V-L-A-U-S-Z take no damage from anything code (something I can resight from memory to this day alongside the 1-800-255-3700 North American Nintendo number), is that if you pause and bring up the menu with controller 1, and then you could press Up on the D-Pad and A on the second controller while the game was paused to bring up the save and quit action, you'll be met with the same laughing pig-gannon screen as if you died, and you'll be able to save
I never knew about the second controller saving until much, much later in life. It's definitely handy now that I have a cartridge with a good save battery!
Hey just found your channel, great reviews by the way! You got a new subscriber and I feel you deserve way more. P.S. Currently playing the Oracle of Ages/Seasons. So far I have Ages beat once and half way through Seasons. Only to have to beat them both again...
I had the "NES Atlas" from Nintendo Power. It's not quite a full strategy guide, but it has complete maps of quite a few bestselling NES titles. That's what enabled me to beat the 2nd Quest.
@@hungrygoriya It was part of a series of strategy guides that I believe were mailed exclusively to Nintendo Power subscribers. It had maps and walkthroughs of the most popular games of the time like Mario 1-3, Zelda 1-2, Startropics, Megaman 1-3, TMNT 1-2, Ninja Gaiden 1-2, and others. Consult Google and you should find a pdf somewhere.
I beat the first quest for the millionth time during quarantine. Then i decided to finally beat the second quest after all these years. I had a blast as well! Challenging , but still awesome
When I finally beat the first quest, my brother randomly had a bunch of friends over. They were staring in awe. I played it nonstop for months with no cheatsheets, no google, nothing. I would walk around for hours and days and months figuring things out. Second quest drove me nuts and I couldn't do it. Congrats!
That's an awesome memory... feeling like you had the world at your feet at that moment, I'm sure! Do you think you'd ever try the second quest again now? It might be a little bit of a learning curve with all the new mechanics, but it's definitely worth trying out if you loved the first quest so much.
@@hungrygoriya I would love to as I was born in 85, family of 5 now with a dog and a job it may take a lot of time. Stealing time for a movie or a vinyl is luxury. Though if I do it, I would abuse the internet that wasn't quite there for help back when I was growing up :p .
It took me a very long time to beat the 2nd quest. When I was a kid and first attempted it, I had no guide and there was no internet. Only managed to beat level 1 and 2. Found level 7 but couldn't do anything with it. I could never for the life of me figure out what to do. It wasn't until I was older that I found a guide where it told you that you could walk through certain walls in dungeons. Nowhere in the manual is this hinted at and there is no in game hint what so ever. With that new knowledge, I managed to find the tools I was missing to find other dungeons and finish the game. Overall, would have been a good experience if it wasn't for the stupid walk through walls bs or if there was at least some sort of hint. I refuse to believe that anyone figured that out on their own.
Playing blind back then, I can totally imagine how frustrating it was not knowing about wall walking. I have no idea how anyone would've figured that out either, and I thankfully had that little bit spoiled for me so I didn't spend too much time wandering around for nothing.
@@sethralavode9012 I can see that... even just pressing into the wall for a few seconds can send you through, but you'd have to think to try it. It's definitely possible to stumble upon. I hope you had fun with the second quest!
I'm glad you appreciated it! I've always wanted a great excuse to talk about Zelda 1 and this seemed like a great angle to take. You're right: it's pretty untouched out there!
Someone here just mentioned potentially hacking my SNES mini to put those games on and try them out. I have some other things in the works in the meantime though!
There's a website where you can play Zelda on your PC... including 3rd, 4th, and 5th quest. Zeldaclassic dot com for the engine, and purezc dot net for custom quests. 20 years worth if you want.
@@nashvillan4lif We, the developers of Zelda Classic are saddened to announce that as of the release of Mac OSX 10.15, Zelda Classic will no longer be capable of running on OSX. Furthermore, due to decisions made by Apple, it will not be possible to continue to offer Zelda Classic for the Macintosh platform. The reasons are not of our choosing, but they stem directly from these decisions that Apple have made, for OSX 10.15 Discontinuation of support for 32-bit apps: 32-bit software will not run on OSX 10.15. Discontinuation of support for OpenGL. No OpenGL games will run on OSX 10.15. Future versions of ZC are targeted at OpenGL, instead of DirectX and Quartz. Discontinuation of the Quartz and QT libraries. Our software depends on these, too. Last,and in the chief spot: MacOS 10.15 will not allow non-certified software to run! This is the proverbial, ‘nail in the coffin’, as essentially all small/indy game developers, and all open source developers would be required to pay outrageous sums of money out of pocket just for certification, and even after that, Apple would have the final say on whether we would be permitted to deploy ZC on their platform.
Better late than never! I had older cousins that were into Nintendo growing up so I was thankful to get a console at our house too, with Zelda! I suppose I owe my cousins a thank-you one of these days! I'm glad you kept your maps! I have one that I made from when I played King's Quest V on NES as a kid... that desert area was just awful.
What a great video! I'm excited to take on this game some day. I appreciate the details you've used here, especially all maps and books you shared. The Zelda series has such robust art and design. Thank you again for sharing.
I really hope you have fun with it. I know a lot of people don't really like the original Zelda these days compared to what else is out there, but there's something about putting your nose to the grindstone and digging up every secret a land has to offer! I can't wait to see you tackle this one :)
I'm glad you found the channel. And thank you for your kind words by the way! I've met a lot of really interesting people to chat about games with over the past few years, so I understand that sentiment.
You really nailed the feeling that the 2nd quest gave me as well! My neighbors had the game, and I remember we got through the 1st quest in a couple weeks, but quickly got stuck in Level 2 of the 2nd quest. We had to call the Nintendo hot line to learn about walking through walls! Who knew?!
Who knew indeed! I'm curious to know how people ever found out about walking through walls on their own, or if Nintendo made a small fortune on people calling in to ask questions about it! But thank you! It's nice that you have good memories with this adventure.
Great video, I always loved playing the Second Quest and trying to beat it ever since learning the “Zelda” name trick as a little kid. I have never beaten it, I think I’ve gotten as far as level 8. About a year ago I decided I wanted to finally beat the game but at some point I realized I just wasn’t having fun playing it anymore. It felt like a chore. Maybe someday I’ll change my mind, but until then the Second Quest falls under games I can live happily without beating. -Cast
This is a certain kind of fun, I think. I thought it was a fulfilling experience, but I can fully recognize that not everyone's going to enjoy putting themselves through some of the nonsense the second quest provides. I'm glad you gave it a try anyway.
@@hungrygoriya hey I’m glad there are people like you out there for the rest of us to live vicariously through! It’s like when I beat TMNT I on NES for the first time, it felt like a victory for humanity, not just myself 😂 -Cast
Great review! I never tried the second quest as I thought it was the same but with the doors moved around on the map. Had no idea enemies were faster and stuff like that! I'll have to try this someday.
Awesome video! I know a lot of people won’t believe me but I beat the first quest back in the 80s without a guide, map, or anything! We were poor so all of our games either came from pawn shops, second hand, or used. So none of them ever had guides or anything. The most frustrating part of my LOZ game was it didn’t save consistently like it was supposed to. I once got all the way to level 9 and it froze up. I was so mad! At any rate I finally beat it felt like the accomplishment of a lifetime! Also a true story: I had no idea the second quest even existed until the mid 90s(again I didn’t have guides or anything). But by that point I had already moved on to Super Nintendo, sega genesis, etc. When I learned the second quest existed I popped it into my NES and tried it. Boy oh boy was it a rude awakening. I think I got through maybe the 2nd dungeon and gave up lol. The “moment” had kind of passed. At any rate you’ve got me to thinking about going back and trying it again(as a 40 year old). At any rate I wonder if there’s anyone out there that has ever completed the 2nd quest without any type of guide? Seems impossible but who knows? Awesome channel! Gained a subscriber!
I think my whole childhood, we got games on birthdays or Christmas and that was about it until I was old enough to start hunting at second hand stores. Even then, I don't think I had more than 15 NES games growing up and they're what I played along with my Genesis games until I was into my teenage years. I'm sad you're part of the Bad Zelda Battery club. I definitely feel your frustrations with that. Very cool that you made it through the first quest as a kid. I hope you might consider giving the second quest a try these days. I am far from a Zelda expert and have only finished the first quest maybe 10 times my entire life, and the second quest was definitely a workout for me too. Good luck if you get back to it! I believe in you!
@@hungrygoriya I had to restart unfortunately, the game got erased. I always hated that, when the game was erased automatically. I've made it to level 5. I too am making maps.
Thanks for this awesome video! I'm in a very similar situation right now. I'd been playing the original Zelda since childhood but never took on the second quest. Intimidated, just tired of the game after completing it, or a combination of both, I just avoided it. A few days ago, I finally took up the challenge, after playing through the first quest three times in succession, just to warm myself up! Right now, I'm in Level 6, and it is driving me absolutely crazy. I've spent hours burning every bush, marking up my map. Just today I ran into four wallet-grabbing old men in quick succession (they are all over Death Mountain!), and I wanted to scream! And like with you, Level 4 made me want to tear my hair out. From the Darknuts to the Bubbles to my crushing disappointment when I finally found the dungeon item only for it to be the Magic Book! In some ways, it really does feel like a trolling ROM hack. But at the same time, I can't deny the feeling of exultation I felt the first time I realized I could walk through a wall. And earlier today, also just like you said, I happened to find an unexpected secret with the Recorder. All of a sudden, I was combing my map for all of the previous "X"s I'd made (to denote that there were absolutely, positively no secrets on that screen) trying it out everywhere and frequently having to scribble out those Xs. And before long I'd found Level 6. I'm still very much in frustration mode and am too stubborn to give it a huge amount of credit. But I can't deny that I'm having a hard time putting it down. Because of all of these conflicting feelings, I felt compelled to seek out someone else's opinion on this overwhelming experience, and you did not disappoint. Thanks!
Ohhhhh it's so good to hear that you're slogging through! It's definitely not an easy endeavour, but it's good to hear that you're staying the course and seeing it through. It's something you'll be able to look back on with pride when you finish, and it's those little moments of success that make all the struggling feel worth it. I hope you end up getting to the end! Keep up the good work!
@@hungrygoriya Thanks for the encouragement. As a matter of fact, I just finished! It is rather odd. I agree with you that the middle dungeons, like 4-6, are mind-bogglingly hard. But then 7-9, while they aren't cakewalks, seem much more manageable! I'm definitely glad I finally did it.
@@MistareFusion \o/ Hooray! Congratulations! I definitely found the middle section of the game a lot tougher than the end as well, though level 9 was a treat to figure out. I still get lost in the first quest's level 9 no matter how many times I play it. Either way, very nice to hear you made it through. Thanks for reporting back!
I'm just playing Punch Out right now for the first time and I'm up to Tyson... that game is so addictive and fun! I would've loved renting NES but I didn't start renting games until I had a Sega Genesis. You must've found some pretty cool games that way.
When you mentioned LV4😂 took me a while and many lives in my younger days trying to figure this out. Being in a remote town in Alaska, and no help it was tough, but eventually i figured it out while having alot of fun trying to figure out where everything is at and LV9 2nd quest🤬🤬🤬🤬 thats one tough puzzle😁
Summer after sixth grade was spent entirely on the second quest...the whole summer was consumed by it. This was at a time when the only way to get information on a game was to ask a friend, call an expensive hotline (not getting much of an answer) or hunkering down and getting through it your damned self! I made my own walkthrough mapping out every location of every item in the overworld, every dungeon...EVERYTHING! Every dungeon was mapped with every item, every walkthrough wall, secret passages color coded, EVERYTHING. It was 12 pages front and back on graph paper...a truly stunning piece of individual effort and work for a 12 year old. My mother, not realizing what it was nor botherig to ask, tossed it out with a bunch of other papers. It was a crushing blow. There is no doubt it would be proudly displayed to this day on the wall as a testament to my exploratory greatness. Have I forgiven my mother? It's been 31 years...TBD! ;)
Oh man... what I would give to see that mastery of the game at work! I'm so sorry you lost your papers. I have heard many stories just like this, and none of those parents have been forgiven either... understandably so!
I did the same thing a few months ago and agree 100%. playing it on the 2nd quest was totally cool and a way to get that old school new game feel. Spot on with this review.
Great video. Growing up when there were no Internet, Instant Message, and life was a lot slower. There were time to play the 2nd quest and enjoy it. Been watching your videos and It is great that you are discovering some of these lost 80s gems. Frankly I don't think I would have the same patience playing these games these days.
Hey thanks very much! I had an NES and a Genesis growing up, but we only had a handful of games for each console between me and my siblings. I have no idea how I heard about the second quest since lots of friends in elementary school really weren't into gaming, but I was glad to finally get through it a couple of years ago. I play the first quest about once a year usually. I've been really grateful to get my hands on lots of new-to-me games that I didn't have growing. There are so many great adventures to have.
I had replayed zelda a couple months ago and for the love of god i remembered just walking through some of the dungeon walls. Watching this video reminded me i wasn't crazy, I just had been remembering the wrong quest.
@@hungrygoriya I did but it took awhile....LOL Just don't have enough time to play as much as I would like but the younger me more than made up for that.
@@nebulapig Fair enough! Well if you ever do give the second quest another go, I hope you have a blast with it. I loved it so much more than I thought I would despite the challenge!
Major props to you for having the fortitude to complete the second quest! Very few people ever do it! You may want to try a game called 8 Eyes if you like dual game play through. Once you beat it the first time you have to go through again and do it with a different sword pattern to get the real ending.
Thank you so much! I'm glad I pushed through it, though Level 4 in the second quest makes me want to leave it behind for a little while before I play it again. And 8 Eyes has been sitting on my shelf for a while now! I'd definitely like to try that one out sometime. I love the music so much.
@@hungrygoriya no doubt ! 7 is still the "CHALLENGE" I enjoy🤤 I was injured in the beginning of February at work.. So I've had some time on my hands to conquer my run🏃 my PB is 45:15 (GLITCHLESS) 1st quest! Now I've moved onto T&C surf designs "again"
Nice video. I remember finishing the first quest and the game having another quest. I didn’t want to start. I took some off and then did the second quest. It was fun.
Great video! I played the second quest as a kid immediately following the first. However, I was kind of blown away by how much harder it was! I put many hours into it, but never beat it. Twenty years later, I pulled out my old NES and finally finished it. There should be a support group for players who lose their magical shields to Like likes.
Elden Ring owes everything to the OG Legend of Zelda. When we were kids in 1987, we had to discover every nook and cranny of LoZ, and it was the most epic adventure while using our imagination.
I'm stopping at 3:14 because I don't want to spoil anything, but I am definitely looking forward to trying this. I recently played Zelda 1 for the first time on my AV Famicom and it blew me away. I didn't grow up with any of these games, so I've been on a bit of a quest of my own playing through the ones that interest me in chronological order. Right now I'm on Adventure Island but I just finished Metroid recently and that was also an incredible game. Nice channel, I'll have to see if you have anything for games I've already played.
Fair enough! I hope you enjoy Zelda when you get to it, and good luck on the NES discovery quest. There's tons of good stuff in the library. Adventure Island II is my favourite platformer from the NES bunch, and Adventure Island IV is one of my favourite games on the Famicom. It's definitely worth playing if you can find the translation patch for it!
Great video Goriya. And I must say, those invisible walls always pissed me off as a kid. Never knew about them until much later on in life. While I've finished the main quest many times....the second quest I've only finished once. And that was enough! lol.
I totally feel like I'd play the second quest again in a heartbeat. I loved it. Call me masochistic, but it was one of the most satisfying gaming experiences I've had in a long time.
When I heard the Faxanadu music at the begining i knew I was on a good channel. Interesting video, gonna check the second quest when I have the chance. No idea why youtube is recomending your video after a year and a half but I'm glad it did.
@@hungrygoriya no problem. If you ever decide you want to play a third and fourth Quest, I made a rom hack that is in the spirit of the original just with new dungeons and a few changes to the overworld. If you ever like to have it I can send it to you. Just let me know how if not I won't take it personal haha. Have a great night.
The second quest is a way for all of us gamers to relive the magic of discovering the first quest once again.
Definitely! And with added challenge too!
@@hungrygoriya and what a challenge it is. I still haven’t beaten it after all this time!
I wonder how many kids used Zelda for their name and played the second quest first unknowingly.
I've spoken with at least one or two people that have before... I'm sure many people did! It's a neat secret in my opinion! I always named myself Link growing up so why wouldn't someone name themselves Zelda?
focalized me .. lol wow.
what about using thenname Link
@@threwthelookingglass7194
does nothing in the way of secrets or special effects
Hungry Goriya what if Zelda were a girl?
I recall my friend doing that unknowingly and when he got to level 1, he freaked out when the layout was different and then when he tried to find level 2....oh boy.
"Grumble, Grumble..." :) I've beaten Zelda multiple times, and the 2nd Quest surely will rattle your brains and test your patience. It's worth it in the end. I even once beat this game on 12 hearts instead of 16! Your thoughts expressed are as lovely as your voice. Straight facts. Well done!
That’s a nice sentiment and I agree with it. ❤️
This video inspired me to take on the challenge myself. I started three days ago, and finally conquered it today without any other kind of guide. So I just wanted to thank you because this quest actually made me love the game much more.
I was pleasantly surprised by how well laid out the dungeons were. Despite the evil enemy combinations, the puzzles in them constantly impressed me.
And like you said, hearing the old men speak in new riddles, and finding secrets in cool areas I once thought were impossible, filled me with tons of excitement. I felt like the possibilities were endless once again.
It's so gratifying to finally beat the game and see "END OF THE LEGEND OF ZELDA" at last. In a way, the 2nd quest feels like the true quest.
I'm so happy to hear of your success with the second quest. Congratulations for building up the courage to try it out and succeed! Right on!
I actually busted out laughing when you said Link was carrying a bible. My boy going on the most dangerous mission trip known.
It would certainly be a twist on everything we know about the Zelda series... haha
I mean brother be running around fighting monsters and stuff maybe he borrowed some s*** from Castlevania
It is dangerous to go alone, Take God Almighty, the power of power, LORD of Lords, with ability to do anything he pleases. Just keep love in your heart.
Turns out Links a conflicted Jehovah's Witness.
The Magic Book is actually the Bible in the japanese version. Who knew going to church gives you fire magic?
That was pretty much my experience as well when I decided to take up the second quest 20 years ago. Even though it was, and still is, my favorite game, I had no idea it had a 2nd quest! The playthrough was so fresh, fun, interesting, challenging, and frustrating. Those red bubbles were the worst! And it took me way too long to figure out that I needed to walk through a wall. Almost every screen had a secret, and my curiosity for checking out each screen allowed me to discover secrets in the first quest that I'd never found before either, including a heart container that I never knew existed. :)
I'm so glad you enjoyed the second quest as much as you did. It's a significant increase in difficulty in virtually every way, but totally worth it. I'm so grateful for the experience even if Level 4 made me want to scream sometimes.
@@hungrygoriya Same! And if I recall correctly, finding level 3 or 4 - whichever one was on the screen below the original palace five, took me forever to find! In any case, thanks for making this video - I really resonated with your experience :)
The original Zelda was my first game too. I think I was 4 or 5 years old, coming home from my Uncle's House and was super excited to tell my mom about how I played the "Lee-Gend of Zelda". When we would end up getting an NES later that year, my mom would end up playing with me quite a bit. She was the one who was patient enough to farm rupees, and some of the really hard Blue Darknut rooms would require her to help me out, because she was patient enough to wait in the door and backstab them. Took me a few years to gain that level of patience :D
Grumble, Grumble... was a cute finish for this one
I'm so glad you got to play this as a little one too! Sounds like you made some great memories with your mom. I'm sure my mom helped me with making maps for this game when I was little, but I don't remember her playing it with me. She was more of a SMB2 fan!
Great insight. I wish that sometimes I could have a memory wipe so I can play the entire game again without knowing where everything is. Playing the second quest was one of the most challenging and rewarding video game experiences I ever had.
I've thought that a lot as well... clear out the memory and start fresh on lots of great games, especially RPGs!
If you are willing to utilize an emulator (computer program that emulates a Nintendo), there are several very very good hacks of LoZ that recreate the experience of whole new quests, wildly new maps, reskins of items, sometimes even pulling sprites from other games. Clever folks hacked the game files and created some wild remakes using the same programing and AI etc.
There is a little learning curve to installing these and patching the game, however I had the chance to do so in the past and it was good fun.
@@jeremygriffin620can u kindly give us names for some of these?
I regularly claim OG LOZ is my favorite game ever but I've never completed that 2nd quest. I don't think I ever found the third dungeon. Thanks for the inspiration!
Right? I was pretty much in the same boat as you until I finally played through it myself... I'm a big believer in that if I can do it, so can you! It just takes a bit of patience and thoroughness to see it to the end.
now you need a randomizer...
Nintendo Power released a 'Zelda Collectors Guide' in the Gamecube era that has a full walkthrough w/ maps for Zelda 2nd Quest.....I found it locally a few years ago for a few bucks
Yes the 2nd quest is wicked. But I'd say the begining is the hardest part. Also some dungeons are really hard to find, but at least you can skip to another one.
"It's not often that you get a chancer to revisit a world you know like the back of your hand again, just the way you remember it, especially if you don't mind a little extra challenge on the side." While not a second quest, this is precisely why I LOVED Link Between Worlds. My first Zeld game was A Link To The Past, and then when Link Between Worlds came out and I realized it had essentially the exact same map and an identical alternate world, I got extremely excited and I wasn't let down at all! Your quote there at the end is perfect and so absolutely true
That's very kind of you to say... I'm glad it resonated with you as well. I've spoken with a few people about A Link Between Worlds and have heard the same kind of sentiment from them as well, so I'm glad you got to have that experience with your first Zelda :) It's definitely a meaningful experience to have.
I am definitely one of those that has beaten this game several times, but would always hesitate to play the 2nd quest. Your video has inspired me. Thank you!! (fear really does paralyze you)
It's a tough time, but I'm sure you'll be able to make your way through. All the best and good luck!
When I first played Zelda's second quest, the only help I had came from knowledge of quest 1, and hearing about the existence of fake walls. Everything else from the whistle's new power, to the old men mugging you, to the dungeons and their locations, that was all completely blind.
It was an extremely long and draining journey. But I will never forget the feeling of finally discovering a new dungeon. Or how utterly amazed I was stumbling across one of the whistle spots for the first time. Or the really clever way Level 8 was hidden. Or how Level 9 felt like an impossible riddle for a while. It's as if they took the experience of beating Level 7 in Quest 1 and spread it across the game, it was unlike anything I'd ever pulled off before.
And so, finally I beat Ganon again having not used a guide for the game at all........ except for this one elusive heart container that I accidentally saw the location of on a livestream after days of searching in the game. In a spot that I somehow convinced myself I'd already checked. Ergh...
It's rare to be able to experience a great game brand new again. I loved my time with the second quest (except Level 4... boooo!) but I'm happy you also had a really fulfilling experience making your way through this game too. I agree with all of your sentiments... it's a really special experience.
@@hungrygoriya What made me angry was the fact that Level 8 really likes Dodongos. _Really_ likes them. The decision to make the one boss that requires bombs be the only boss type to respawn is... oi.
But yeah Level 9, having that one room be like some weird riddle you're never actually supposed to solve was pretty unique.
I loved the second quest. It’s tough but very satisfying when you complete it.
You nailed it! It was great finally getting through it after so long!
Just hearing the music just takes me back year's ago playing hours and hours Zelda and Link. Good times. The NES was the 80s greatest invention. It was a great time to be a kid in those days.
Agreed! I spent a lot of summer afternoons playing my NES games.
You never had a Rubix Cube? Or a Cabbage Patch Kid? or a G.I. Joe??
@@glowingunknown5625 I never had a G.I. Joe, but definitely had the others. We got a lot of toys as hand-me-downs from neighbours growing up so I had some pretty cool stuff :D
Link is the hero of Hyrule. He's also the guy who runs around burning bushes, and blowing up the mountainside, just to find secrets. :P
Waking into everyones house uninvited smashing pots and worst of all tormenting chickens
@@turtleanton6539 He is a spirit of destruction. It's just that he destroys Ganon, among everything else.
Here's are a few things that will make the second quest go easier for everyone. 1) Don't go after the secret for Everybody's Right away, especially the 100. Grind out the initial batch of rupees and make sure the absolute first thing that you do is get the Blue Ring before even heading to level 1. 2) After Level 1 head for the graveyard and scounge up more rupees and grab the heart container there, The ghost takes 9 hits, hit eight times and then unleash the rest of the ghosts then hit the ghosts 1 more time. Then grab the power bracelet and the letter and head for the white sword. 3) After Level 3 head for level 6, slip inside and grab the ladder and head back out. After you have powered up and grabbed the isolated heart container, head for Level 8! This is the key. Clearing this level makes the rest of the levels before 9 a piece of cake.
7 is still tough, but this is how I usually do it too. I like 2nd quest a lot
yeah, the thing with the 2nd quest is that for later levels you always want to have a lot of rupees because of the "leave your money or your life" and "I bet you'd like to have more bombs" old man rooms in some of the levels, mainly level 7, but I actually found a way to get around 1 of them so I only had to pay 50 rupees instead of 100
Oh man, the nostalgia. Imagine being 7 years old when this game out. No internet, just you and your dad passing the controller back and forth and finally beating the game... only to be greeted with the "Oh hey, there's a new quest" message after seeing the credits roll.
Well, we were used to ColecoVision games, or the standard "post game mode" of early NES titles like Kung Fu, where the game just cranked the difficulty up to 11 and nothing really changed other than the game throwing 3x the enemies at you and them moving at 2x speed or doing 2x damage.
So, we started it up expecting "Zelda, but either the same or enemies that one-shot you".
It was one of the coolest moments of my young life when we realized that the entire overworld was remixed - caves in new places, DUNGEONS in new places, treasures out of order, and even entire new mechanics like WALKING THROUGH DUNGEON WALLS instead of bombing them.
I love Zelda's Second Quest so much.
It sounds like you have some really fantastic memories with your family from this one. What a joy! Thanks so much for sharing.
I found your channel through Erin Plays channel. I am 38 years old, so this kind of content is right up my alley. I like the little personal moments, and stories that other people share. I find it rather endearing, and sweet. 😊
I'm really appreciative that Erin mentioned me in her video... she's wonderful! And thanks for your kindness about the personal touches in this video too. I try to make my reviews a bit more like that since I also enjoy hearing from people about how they felt about a game, or a bit about their personal gaming history to set the stage for their perspective on a what they're reviewing.
Wow everything you said was exactly how my mom and I were playing this game all the way to making our own maps!
Having played the games and studied classical piano, relying on notes and maps is the worst way to learn.
It is far better to train your memory and accept mistakes. You also learn to improvise and try new things, instead of the exact same recipe every time.
@@TimBowSpice Music teacher here - totally depends on the learner. If you have a hard time visualizing things in your head, then sheet music and maps can be absolutely critical (and when I say visualize, that includes how one interprets notes in their head as they improvise).
Besides, making maps can be really fun!
@@TheChilaxicle , I also teach, making maps/charts is important and fun, but not 'needing' them to play is also very important. I have seen too many panic if they don't have their security blanket, even as adults. It is like needing a calculator everytime, or needing GPS. When do the training wheels come off the bike?
@@TimBowSpice It is nothing like needing a GPS or calculator, as those do so much of the work for you. But let's extend your analogy. By that logic, scientists could have created all the technology we have without calculators. Space X rockets would just have to "sense" where to land without GPS.
To compare maps and sheet music to training wheels is ridiculous, as professionals VERY MUCH still use those. Sure you might see a jazz group or chamber quartet where everyone is playing by memory, but the practical demands of an orchestra schedule or soundtrack recording means that reading sheet music is a REQUIREMENT of the job. In addition, do you think sailors just navigate around without maps?
@@TheChilaxicle, the analogy was specifically for piano playing. When you see a pianist play a concerto, do they use sheet music? Not the piano player, not during the performance. The orchestra will of course, but not the pianist.
Both sides are necessary, but I knew an organist who could not play a piece of music that didn't have his specific fingering written in, even if he has been playing it beautifully for years. Take away his crutch, and he would crumble. I was able to do better on the first try with no fingerings written in.
Going right to NASA about calculators? What about adults that are unable to calculate a 20% tip in their head for a $100 restaurant bill? Or adults that cannot find their local grocery store without GPS, even though they have been going there for years? First world problems enrage me.
I teach both sides of the coin, I still can sight read a song I have never heard before, and I still play songs I memorized 25 years ago without the sheet music. And I put arrangements into notation, but also follow a chord chart if the situation calls for it.
Teachers with their outdated cookie cutter approach are just plagerizing in my eyes, and creating a dependance.
The Bible/shield bit was gold. A very fun, innocent admission.
Awww thanks, haha
In the legend of Zelda NES, there's a book with a cross called "the book of magic" in Japanese it's called "the bible".
Interesting! I had no idea, but it makes sense with how much religious censorship occurred between regions.
so a tip with burnable bushes: they are only found in a full column of bushes where you burn the third from the top and a forked set of bushes will have the secret 5th from the bottom. the only exceptions are found in bottom pairs of trees below the water tiles.
Hey so this is the first time I've ever seen any of your videos before and I got to say, I love it! I mean this in a complimentary way, but your videos have a very old school TH-cam aesthetic. You're not an angry video game reviewer and you're not trying to sound cool and make jokes all the time - your videos are actually somewhat relaxing and pretty informative. There's a sense of humility and almost relatability to your voice, since you're not trying to speak like an announcer for some big name Broadcasting Network. Additionally, your voice has a very relaxing tone as well. Overall, this was a breath of fresh air and I just subscribed. 😊
EDIT: also I wanted to mention that it's a very slight detail, but I like the way the NES games look when you put them in your video. It doesn't look like you played it off of an emulator, it actually looks a little bit more pixel heavy as if you recorded it from a TV. Small details, but just another reason why your video really stands out to me in a good way
Thank you for a very thoughtful message! That's exactly what I'm going for when I put these reviews together, so I'm happy that's what's coming through on the other side.
And all my videos have gameplay footage from my own playthroughs that I record with the original hardware. NES is one of the consoles I don't have a high-quality output for (some people modify their consoles to output RGB, but mine is not modded), but you'll see with my other consoles that the footage is a lot crisper. I do use an upscaler and a higher output for everything, but I love how cozy NES looks with regular old composite.
I also took a long break between finishing the first quest and finishing the second one that lasted years. It helped that more Zelda games kept getting released in the mean time. There's definitely something about going from the status of having beaten a game back to the status of still playing it and struggling that makes it tempting to leave well enough alone.
I hear ya! I decided to jump in because I love the first quest so much, but the second definitely gave me a run for my money.
So YT finally recommended this video to me, and I don't regret watching it. It's /fascinating/ seeing people's first experiences with the first quest, and it was really cool seeing your first experience with the second quest! That experience you got is exactly why I love Zelda 1 randomizers. It's intimidating at first, but it's a good time.
Oh wow really? I'm glad it got recommended to you! I played the first quest a ton throughout my life and really appreciated everything the second quest brought along with it. I just recently learned a little bit about how Zelda 1 randomizers work (with the trackers, etc.) so I'm inclined to try one sometime... any new-to-me Zelda is a welcome thing! Another experience that really made me feel like I was playing Zelda 1 for the first time again was Golden Axe Warrior for the Master System. Have you heard of that one before? It was really, really good! A few different mechanics, some magic and towns, etc. but very much a top down, exploration-based adventure game where you need to search every nook and cranny.
That was a very fun review, it brought back a bunch of memories. I'm of the age where we all had to trade game tips and secrets on the playground. This 'social network' was vital in attempting to conquer the Legend of Zelda. I distinctly remember telling a buddy that I was starting the second quest and he clued me in to the dungeon's invisible doorways. I thought he was BS-ing me until I found out he was right!
I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! I feel like we must be quite close in age then. I'm just as old as the game itself but I lived under a rock most of my childhood and nobody I knew was playing the same games as me so I had nobody to ask about it at the time. I wish I could remember exactly how I came to know of the second quest. I do remember trying to type my name in as Zelda in my teens but have no idea why I knew to do that. I never had a subscription to Nintendo Power, nor did I ever know anyone that had one at the time. What a help it could've been!
I will say that streaming this game with people just an ask away was really encouraging, and I got that "sharing tips and gossip" feeling. I don't think there's a chance I could've done it without the audience to chat with while exploring.
And yeah, the walking through walls bit was so counter-intuitive to me. I wouldn't have tried that on my own in a million years but it was such an integral part of the gameplay! I'm excited to sit down and read through the Nintendo Power tips I showed here and see if there's anything else I could've done to make my life easier.
I used to think you had to bomb the illusion walls in order to walk through them. I didn't find out to that was an unnecessary step until I was an adult. 😂
@@hungrygoriya NES games used to come with a little card that told about the Zelda naming cheat. If that one wasn't in there, it was a card telling you some kind of Punch Out!! code. I don't remember what it did.
@@PaladinDusty ... if I could guess what the Punch-Out!! code was for, it likely brought you straight to the final fight!
@@hungrygoriya I did some searching and found it. It was called Another World Circuit. It can only be accessed by entering the special passcode 135-792-4680 in the passcode continue option and simultaneously pressing the A, B, and Select buttons to enter it. So, it's like the Punch Out!! second quest. lol
I only beat second quest once and it was pre-internet. I need to go through it again to see if I still can. Love the video.
Thanks so much for checking this out! I am glad I finally bit the bullet, faced my fears and pushed through this game. I'd like to hear about your experience if you get back to it sometime. I need more games that make me feel like I'm playing Zelda for the first time again.
President internet I was stuck looking for the raft for awhile on the second quest
I wish I still had my copy of Legend of Zelda. The map and instruction book were so epic!
Totally! I'm very grateful I still have my childhood copy, as well as this new one that saves!
Do you remember Nintendo Power magazine? That was epic too!
@@furrys.1304 I do but I never had a subscription growing up. I have a few copies now though!
The Second Quest is the main game, the first one is just a warm up.
You inspired me to pick this game back up. Truly underrated channel! Keep up the great work.
Awww that's great to hear! Thanks very much and good luck on your adventure!
You've convinced me, I'm going to continue to pass on playing Zelda's second quest! LOL
:D All good. Thanks for checking out the video anyway!
I had a similar experience. Zelda was such a formative piece of my childhood, and after playing it so thoroughly throughout the years, I had the first quest completely under my thumb. I could beat it (get all the way to Ganon) without a sword.
The second quest was utterly intimidating. Hyrule had become my comfort zone, and to take something so familiar and make it new again was like a fever dream. And the labyrinths were so much harder! So when I did finally beat it, I got to recapture the exhilaration I must have felt decades before when Zelda was still new to me.
I'm glad you got to experience that rush again! I can't say I can beat the game with no sword, nor am I as familiar with the first quest as you, but the jump into something brand new was pretty exciting. Right on!
I remember playing the NES BS Zelda on an emulator ages ago. It's a very similar experience in many way, but the way you are fighting the clock in order to complete these dungeons quickly in different sessions changes how you have to play. Every instinct you have still wants to be thorough, but being too thorough will leave you unable to complete everything you need in time. It's not hard though, so don't feel like it's overwhelming.
I actually like second quest more than the first, aside from a few little issues (dungeon 4 is punishing). The dungeon layouts, and the one way doors really do a lot to turn the maps into elaborate but satisfying to solve mazes. Especially dungeon 9.
Oooo yeah, I don't think I'd appreciate a clock very much. I'm pretty methodical when I play through games with a checklist of sorts to go down while exploring, but if it's as easy as you're saying, maybe it won't be so bad. I guess the only way to find out is to try it.
I do appreciate the second quest a lot, but there's something about the first that just feels like home. I agree with you about the puzzles feeling more rewarding there though... they're tough enough that you'd be solving them "fresh" again after a break away from the game. Dungeon 9 was awesome. I made a map and crossed off walls I tried walking through and bombing. It was great when I finally made it to Ganon!
@@hungrygoriya Oh yeah, you'd be fine. It's nothing like second quest Zelda. It's paced to fit the time frame. If you've done Majora's Mask you can probably do this.
And having never played Golden Axe Warrior and seeing it now, it looks like I have something new to try myself!
@@OnlineVideoSurfer I haven't tried Majora's Mask yet, but it's definitely intriguing. Thanks for filling me in... I'll be curious to get it going sometime.
And Golden Axe Warrior is really, really good. I hope you have a blast with it! It was one of the main things that lit the fire under me to start collecting for the Master System.
@@hungrygoriya I'll definitely have to try it. Original Zelda with good English. I liked Startropics for that reason, I'm sure I'll like this.
This video is fantastic! I love all of your maps and notes. I still have some that I saved from childhood. I knew you were gonna bring up Level 4. Oh boy, that's where the 2nd quest separates the Goriyas from the Octorocks, ha ha! I'm so glad that I just played through it again. I honestly think I like Zelda even a bit more now after discovering a newfound appreciation for a 30+ year old game that actually has two completely different quests in it! It's pretty crazy to think about now. Great job with this one!
Oh, and if you find out any more info on that"BS" game, let me know.
Thank you so much... this whole video felt like me pouring my heart out for a game I keep very close to it so I'm glad that you and others are enjoying it. It's not just nostalgia either for me... it's just a genuinely great game with lots of exploration and challenge, and I loved Golden Axe Warrior just as much. Even playing through a bit of Spiritual Warfare last year had me all pumped to play Zelda again! So exciting!
And don't even get me started on level 4. What a pain in the asssss. I'd rather play through Level 9 again blind before that one! I'm glad the mighty Goriya in me rose up! Thanks again for that tip about the thing I needed to do in there... it would've made me insane.
The two different quests is so cool. When did they start doing that again? Ocarina of Time? It would've been amazing in Link's Awakening!
And yeah, I'll totally keep you posted on BS Zelda if I find anything. I'm guessing there are repros or something out there and I'd be inclined to buy those up!
@@hungrygoriyajust google it. The rims are on the internet. There are English dubs that work with emulators.
I just stumbled across this video. It was fun to relive my childhood and to know that other people had similar experiences. I was laughing and thinking about the trauma that level 4 caused me back then...and then you brought it up. Funny. Thank you for the memories! :-)
That's too funny! I'm glad it was a good walk down memory lane for you. Thanks very much for watching!
The fact that you still have the original map all taped together and filled in with notes and hints is the coolest shit ever. Most kids back then failed to realize that the game was meant to be played with the map laid out right there in front of you. Most of them just threw it away.
This is really great. All that info you showed us was the best. Your knowledge about the game is the best. You sold me on revisiting the game.
Thank you! I hope you have a good time with it. Did you finish it at any point?
Everything you touched on is why i love the NES era of games. This is the first video of yours I've seen and I'm excited to see more!
Thanks for stopping in here. There's lots to go back through and lots more coming :)
The second quest was SO hard as a kid. It was like the grown up version of the game. No help from the magazines back the either.
There was a good spread about it in Nintendo Power, but I wasn't privy to that back then!
Funnily enough, I beat second quest before I beat the first one with use of the Zelda name code. Reason was Death Mountain. First quest was a skull shape that I never was able to find my way through with out a map that showed which walls you could bomb, I would try all of them and run out of bombs then forget which ones I had tried, not to mention there are some monsters that required bombs to beat. Second quest Death Mountain was much more straight forward and I didn't need a map for it at all.
@@Arbbal I definitely needed to map the second quest's final dungeon and indicate how I got through walls! I get lost really easily!
@@hungrygoriya I do remember that now. There was a little help in Nintendo Power.
@@Arbbal On second quest weren't there walls you'd walk through instead of bombing too? It's been so long I can't remember.
A buddy and I used to try to beat this one when he'd come over. The furthest we ever made it was level 7. Later I managed to beat it and mastering the second quest made it my favorite entry. No other Zelda game is as hard as the original.
It's definitely a tough run, and I couldn't have dreamed of making it to the end as a kid. No way! I'm glad you finally made it through. This one and Link's Awakening are standouts for me.
The 2nd quest was so awesome I remember as a kid
So glad you had such fun with Zelda's Second Quest. I did it once when I was little and wow do I still remember the entrance to level 7's location many many years later because that one stumped me the hardest and was the last one I found. I was in full bomb every rock and burn every bush mode and there are a LOT of bushes on the map!
I eyeball the heck out of that bush when I play the first quest now because I also got stuck looking for it for such a long time! I'm honestly sad you get the red candle so late in the second quest considering how essential bush burning is.
@@hungrygoriya Not getting the red candle so late really feels like one of those things where tedious is mistaken for "hard" as a function of design. Watching you burn one bush and go back and forth in order to burn another gave me intense flashbacks to my own experience.
Great video! I'll have to try this game again.I recommend recording NES games in composite instead of coaxial to improve video quality.
Thanks, but I'm already capturing in composite and putting the signal through an upscaler. Without modding the system, this is as good as it gets!
Finding your first false wall is an enlightening experiance.
It was years ago that I finally tackled the Second Quest, but I was pleasantly surprised by how involved it was. So much to seek out, so much to learn. I really appreciated it.
That's wonderful. I'm so happy you enjoyed your time with it. Apart from Level 4 being awful, I loved the rest of it. I think I'd really enjoy randomizers for the same reason too... just getting to experience a favourite in a brand new way!
@@hungrygoriya I think Level 4 was a stumbling block for me, too. Mostly due to the blue and red bubbles, and not understanding how they worked. Hiding an item behind the triforce room was deviously nasty, and I'm kind of impressed by it.
@@DragonRaiderX9 The last place you'd think to look, right? I was thrown off by the fact that there are two items to find there as well! The bubbles are just awful. If I could've removed anything from the second quest, it would've been them.
Beat both quests when I was 11. GOAT game!
great video, I never knew second quest was so different!
It was a pleasant surprise, albeit a little tricky at times.
@@hungrygoriya I never thought you'd reply to me haha. x)
@@KUNOLEOofficial Well, here we are :) I try to keep up with my comments for the most part.
If you want another great take on a third and fouth quest, the Zelda Outlands ROM hack is great. An all new overworld and two new set of dungeons, along with some new enemy sprites.
Thank you for the information! I'll take as much of this game as I can get. There are so many Zelda ROM hacks out there that I never know where to start with them, so I really appreciate the explanation.
I have heard mixed things about Outlands. I am Hesitant to start it.
i still need to try outlands, i actually got a cartridge with it
for a more official 3rd and 4th quests, play the SNES Satellaview Zelda
There’s a ton of NES rom hacks. Some better than others. Still more enjoyable to me than playing the new bloated games nowadays. NES Zelda has a certain charm that nothing else has ever had
This was a great video. Thank you for making it. It brought back a lot of good memories.
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I've yet to beat either quest. I remeber renting this a lot as a kid and one time putting Zelda as the name and BAM second quest. Blew my 4 year old mind
They were definitely thinking when they made entering Zelda as a name a way to fast-track things. I remember trying the second quest for about 20 minutes sometime in my teens and never looking back. It was too much to work on, but streaming the game with an audience was probably the best way to play it. Advice at your fingertips and people to share all the twists with. I hope you'll give it another whirl sometime. It's one of my favourites!
Fun fact, and something I learned around 1994 after being frustrated with being unable to save when using a Game Genie with the A-V-V-L-A-U-S-Z take no damage from anything code (something I can resight from memory to this day alongside the 1-800-255-3700 North American Nintendo number), is that if you pause and bring up the menu with controller 1, and then you could press Up on the D-Pad and A on the second controller while the game was paused to bring up the save and quit action, you'll be met with the same laughing pig-gannon screen as if you died, and you'll be able to save
I never knew about the second controller saving until much, much later in life. It's definitely handy now that I have a cartridge with a good save battery!
When you said Second Quest, I thought “oh she never beat adventure of link!” And then I was like “wait whaaaaait?!”
Tadaaaaaa!
Well done. Love the format.
I never thought other human beings would also enjoy the second quest mode in Zelda, this brought a big old smile to my face :)
Any mode that lets me relive my childhood favourites like they're brand new again, even if they're tough as nails for me, is a winner in my book!
Your map is one of the coolest items I've ever seen. And the fact that you break it out to use and re-use only adds to the awesomeness :-)
I can never remember where dungeon 2 is, so I need it!
Hey just found your channel, great reviews by the way! You got a new subscriber and I feel you deserve way more.
P.S. Currently playing the Oracle of Ages/Seasons. So far I have Ages beat once and half way through Seasons. Only to have to beat them both again...
I'm glad you found me! Thanks for watching, and for your kind words.
Both Oracle games are really fun, and OOA has some really challenging puzzles.
I had the "NES Atlas" from Nintendo Power. It's not quite a full strategy guide, but it has complete maps of quite a few bestselling NES titles. That's what enabled me to beat the 2nd Quest.
Oh really? I don't think I've ever seen that resource before. I wonder if there's a digital copy online I could leaf through.
@@hungrygoriya It was part of a series of strategy guides that I believe were mailed exclusively to Nintendo Power subscribers. It had maps and walkthroughs of the most popular games of the time like Mario 1-3, Zelda 1-2, Startropics, Megaman 1-3, TMNT 1-2, Ninja Gaiden 1-2, and others. Consult Google and you should find a pdf somewhere.
@@fergalstackstreams Right on! Thanks for the information!
You: Hmm, 2nd quest looks scary... I'll put it off for 20 or so years.
80s Gamer Kids: HELLZ YEAH ANOTHER QUEST ILL PLAY IT NOWWWWWWW!
Better late than never!
I beat the first quest for the millionth time during quarantine. Then i decided to finally beat the second quest after all these years. I had a blast as well! Challenging , but still awesome
I'm glad it treated you well!
Level 8 was the worst for me in the second quest.
Just finding level 8 was difficult. I remember when it clicked for me where it might be. When I realized my intuition was right, I was so happy.
I've always appreciated the first Zelda but never really wanted to play that particular game... until now. Your video was inspiring. Thanks for that.
I hope you have a nice time with it!
I played the second quest around when I was 10 or 11 years old. It was hard, my brother and I teamed up finish this game,
Those sound like some fantastic memories to have with him, and glad to hear you made it!
When I finally beat the first quest, my brother randomly had a bunch of friends over. They were staring in awe. I played it nonstop for months with no cheatsheets, no google, nothing. I would walk around for hours and days and months figuring things out.
Second quest drove me nuts and I couldn't do it. Congrats!
That's an awesome memory... feeling like you had the world at your feet at that moment, I'm sure! Do you think you'd ever try the second quest again now? It might be a little bit of a learning curve with all the new mechanics, but it's definitely worth trying out if you loved the first quest so much.
@@hungrygoriya I would love to as I was born in 85, family of 5 now with a dog and a job it may take a lot of time. Stealing time for a movie or a vinyl is luxury.
Though if I do it, I would abuse the internet that wasn't quite there for help back when I was growing up :p .
It took me a very long time to beat the 2nd quest. When I was a kid and first attempted it, I had no guide and there was no internet. Only managed to beat level 1 and 2. Found level 7 but couldn't do anything with it. I could never for the life of me figure out what to do. It wasn't until I was older that I found a guide where it told you that you could walk through certain walls in dungeons. Nowhere in the manual is this hinted at and there is no in game hint what so ever. With that new knowledge, I managed to find the tools I was missing to find other dungeons and finish the game. Overall, would have been a good experience if it wasn't for the stupid walk through walls bs or if there was at least some sort of hint. I refuse to believe that anyone figured that out on their own.
Playing blind back then, I can totally imagine how frustrating it was not knowing about wall walking. I have no idea how anyone would've figured that out either, and I thankfully had that little bit spoiled for me so I didn't spend too much time wandering around for nothing.
I did 🤷♀️ Most stuff was on accident and you learn to try anything. We also drew our own map of the over world.
@@sethralavode9012 I can see that... even just pressing into the wall for a few seconds can send you through, but you'd have to think to try it. It's definitely possible to stumble upon. I hope you had fun with the second quest!
Not enough TH-camrs talk about the second quest or any similar iterations for sequel Zelda games. Very well done video too! Thanks for this!
I'm glad you appreciated it! I've always wanted a great excuse to talk about Zelda 1 and this seemed like a great angle to take. You're right: it's pretty untouched out there!
if a hernia was a video game it would be the second quest.
Get the blue ring ASAP!
I didn't know about the 2nd quest. I kept watching, waiting to find out it was just Canadian for Zelda 2! Great video!!
Haha unfortunately not... it's real!
So how long til you make, “Why you Should play BS Zelda 3rd and Fourth quest”?
Someone here just mentioned potentially hacking my SNES mini to put those games on and try them out. I have some other things in the works in the meantime though!
There's a website where you can play Zelda on your PC... including 3rd, 4th, and 5th quest. Zeldaclassic dot com for the engine, and purezc dot net for custom quests. 20 years worth if you want.
@@nashvillan4lif Oh really? I'll have to try to dig that up. That sounds nice and easy!
@@nashvillan4lif We, the developers of Zelda Classic are saddened to announce that as of the release of Mac OSX 10.15, Zelda Classic will no longer be capable of running on OSX.
Furthermore, due to decisions made by Apple, it will not be possible to continue to offer Zelda Classic for the Macintosh platform.
The reasons are not of our choosing, but they stem directly from these decisions that Apple have made, for OSX 10.15
Discontinuation of support for 32-bit apps: 32-bit software will not run on OSX 10.15.
Discontinuation of support for OpenGL. No OpenGL games will run on OSX 10.15. Future versions of ZC are targeted at OpenGL, instead of DirectX and Quartz.
Discontinuation of the Quartz and QT libraries. Our software depends on these, too.
Last,and in the chief spot: MacOS 10.15 will not allow non-certified software to run! This is the proverbial, ‘nail in the coffin’, as essentially all small/indy game developers, and all open source developers would be required to pay outrageous sums of money out of pocket just for certification, and even after that, Apple would have the final say on whether we would be permitted to deploy ZC on their platform.
@@hungrygoriya here's the link....www.zeldaclassic.com/
Good for you, starting so young. I didn't get into Zelda until my mid-to-late teens, and after that I was hooked. I still have the maps I made too :)
Better late than never! I had older cousins that were into Nintendo growing up so I was thankful to get a console at our house too, with Zelda! I suppose I owe my cousins a thank-you one of these days!
I'm glad you kept your maps! I have one that I made from when I played King's Quest V on NES as a kid... that desert area was just awful.
Hungry Goriya yep. Both quests, as well as Adventure of Link (and Metroid, I believe).
@@reedr7142 My Metroid map that I made a while back when I played it was so terrible, haha... so hard to get it all straight!
What a great video! I'm excited to take on this game some day. I appreciate the details you've used here, especially all maps and books you shared. The Zelda series has such robust art and design. Thank you again for sharing.
I really hope you have fun with it. I know a lot of people don't really like the original Zelda these days compared to what else is out there, but there's something about putting your nose to the grindstone and digging up every secret a land has to offer! I can't wait to see you tackle this one :)
What a wonderful discovery! You have a great way of reviewing a game and the same love for classic Nintendo that I do. Thanks for the video!
I'm glad you found the channel. And thank you for your kind words by the way! I've met a lot of really interesting people to chat about games with over the past few years, so I understand that sentiment.
You really nailed the feeling that the 2nd quest gave me as well! My neighbors had the game, and I remember we got through the 1st quest in a couple weeks, but quickly got stuck in Level 2 of the 2nd quest. We had to call the Nintendo hot line to learn about walking through walls! Who knew?!
Who knew indeed! I'm curious to know how people ever found out about walking through walls on their own, or if Nintendo made a small fortune on people calling in to ask questions about it! But thank you! It's nice that you have good memories with this adventure.
Great video, I always loved playing the Second Quest and trying to beat it ever since learning the “Zelda” name trick as a little kid. I have never beaten it, I think I’ve gotten as far as level 8. About a year ago I decided I wanted to finally beat the game but at some point I realized I just wasn’t having fun playing it anymore. It felt like a chore. Maybe someday I’ll change my mind, but until then the Second Quest falls under games I can live happily without beating.
-Cast
This is a certain kind of fun, I think. I thought it was a fulfilling experience, but I can fully recognize that not everyone's going to enjoy putting themselves through some of the nonsense the second quest provides. I'm glad you gave it a try anyway.
@@hungrygoriya hey I’m glad there are people like you out there for the rest of us to live vicariously through! It’s like when I beat TMNT I on NES for the first time, it felt like a victory for humanity, not just myself 😂
-Cast
Great review! I never tried the second quest as I thought it was the same but with the doors moved around on the map. Had no idea enemies were faster and stuff like that! I'll have to try this someday.
Good luck whenever you get to it! It's tough but very rewarding!
Awesome video! I know a lot of people won’t believe me but I beat the first quest back in the 80s without a guide, map, or anything! We were poor so all of our games either came from pawn shops, second hand, or used. So none of them ever had guides or anything. The most frustrating part of my LOZ game was it didn’t save consistently like it was supposed to. I once got all the way to level 9 and it froze up. I was so mad! At any rate I finally beat it felt like the accomplishment of a lifetime!
Also a true story: I had no idea the second quest even existed until the mid 90s(again I didn’t have guides or anything). But by that point I had already moved on to Super Nintendo, sega genesis, etc. When I learned the second quest existed I popped it into my NES and tried it. Boy oh boy was it a rude awakening. I think I got through maybe the 2nd dungeon and gave up lol. The “moment” had kind of passed. At any rate you’ve got me to thinking about going back and trying it again(as a 40 year old).
At any rate I wonder if there’s anyone out there that has ever completed the 2nd quest without any type of guide? Seems impossible but who knows?
Awesome channel! Gained a subscriber!
I think my whole childhood, we got games on birthdays or Christmas and that was about it until I was old enough to start hunting at second hand stores. Even then, I don't think I had more than 15 NES games growing up and they're what I played along with my Genesis games until I was into my teenage years. I'm sad you're part of the Bad Zelda Battery club. I definitely feel your frustrations with that. Very cool that you made it through the first quest as a kid.
I hope you might consider giving the second quest a try these days. I am far from a Zelda expert and have only finished the first quest maybe 10 times my entire life, and the second quest was definitely a workout for me too. Good luck if you get back to it! I believe in you!
@@hungrygoriya definitely! Awesome channel again. I may checkout some of your other videos.
I just started playing the second quest recently at 2020. And it’s like playing this game for the first time in the first quest to amazing
I'm glad to hear you're enjoying it! How's your progress coming along?
@@hungrygoriya I had to restart unfortunately, the game got erased. I always hated that, when the game was erased automatically. I've made it to level 5. I too am making maps.
Thanks for this awesome video! I'm in a very similar situation right now. I'd been playing the original Zelda since childhood but never took on the second quest. Intimidated, just tired of the game after completing it, or a combination of both, I just avoided it. A few days ago, I finally took up the challenge, after playing through the first quest three times in succession, just to warm myself up!
Right now, I'm in Level 6, and it is driving me absolutely crazy. I've spent hours burning every bush, marking up my map. Just today I ran into four wallet-grabbing old men in quick succession (they are all over Death Mountain!), and I wanted to scream! And like with you, Level 4 made me want to tear my hair out. From the Darknuts to the Bubbles to my crushing disappointment when I finally found the dungeon item only for it to be the Magic Book! In some ways, it really does feel like a trolling ROM hack. But at the same time, I can't deny the feeling of exultation I felt the first time I realized I could walk through a wall. And earlier today, also just like you said, I happened to find an unexpected secret with the Recorder. All of a sudden, I was combing my map for all of the previous "X"s I'd made (to denote that there were absolutely, positively no secrets on that screen) trying it out everywhere and frequently having to scribble out those Xs. And before long I'd found Level 6.
I'm still very much in frustration mode and am too stubborn to give it a huge amount of credit. But I can't deny that I'm having a hard time putting it down. Because of all of these conflicting feelings, I felt compelled to seek out someone else's opinion on this overwhelming experience, and you did not disappoint. Thanks!
Ohhhhh it's so good to hear that you're slogging through! It's definitely not an easy endeavour, but it's good to hear that you're staying the course and seeing it through. It's something you'll be able to look back on with pride when you finish, and it's those little moments of success that make all the struggling feel worth it. I hope you end up getting to the end! Keep up the good work!
@@hungrygoriya Thanks for the encouragement. As a matter of fact, I just finished! It is rather odd. I agree with you that the middle dungeons, like 4-6, are mind-bogglingly hard. But then 7-9, while they aren't cakewalks, seem much more manageable! I'm definitely glad I finally did it.
@@MistareFusion \o/ Hooray! Congratulations! I definitely found the middle section of the game a lot tougher than the end as well, though level 9 was a treat to figure out. I still get lost in the first quest's level 9 no matter how many times I play it. Either way, very nice to hear you made it through. Thanks for reporting back!
First time I played this i was 5 in 1987, me and my brother rented the nes with 2 games Zelda & Punchout. I’ve been hooked ever since
I'm just playing Punch Out right now for the first time and I'm up to Tyson... that game is so addictive and fun! I would've loved renting NES but I didn't start renting games until I had a Sega Genesis. You must've found some pretty cool games that way.
When you mentioned LV4😂 took me a while and many lives in my younger days trying to figure this out. Being in a remote town in Alaska, and no help it was tough, but eventually i figured it out while having alot of fun trying to figure out where everything is at and LV9 2nd quest🤬🤬🤬🤬 thats one tough puzzle😁
Level 4 was the absolute worst! I'm happy to hear you pushed through eventually... yes, pun intended!
Well said! Basically verbalized how I have always felt about the second quest. Thank Goriya!
Finally playing thru the 1st quest on the 3DS currently after 32 years of casual experience with this game. Loving it!
I'm glad to hear you're having a good time with it. Good luck!
This was a great video! I really like your voice, personality, and how you presented your experience with TLoZ! Subscribed!
Hey thanks so much for stopping by! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Summer after sixth grade was spent entirely on the second quest...the whole summer was consumed by it. This was at a time when the only way to get information on a game was to ask a friend, call an expensive hotline (not getting much of an answer) or hunkering down and getting through it your damned self! I made my own walkthrough mapping out every location of every item in the overworld, every dungeon...EVERYTHING! Every dungeon was mapped with every item, every walkthrough wall, secret passages color coded, EVERYTHING. It was 12 pages front and back on graph paper...a truly stunning piece of individual effort and work for a 12 year old. My mother, not realizing what it was nor botherig to ask, tossed it out with a bunch of other papers. It was a crushing blow. There is no doubt it would be proudly displayed to this day on the wall as a testament to my exploratory greatness. Have I forgiven my mother? It's been 31 years...TBD! ;)
Oh man... what I would give to see that mastery of the game at work! I'm so sorry you lost your papers. I have heard many stories just like this, and none of those parents have been forgiven either... understandably so!
I did the same thing a few months ago and agree 100%. playing it on the 2nd quest was totally cool and a way to get that old school new game feel. Spot on with this review.
Hey thanks :) I'm happy to know that you had a similar experience as well.
Great video. Growing up when there were no Internet, Instant Message, and life was a lot slower. There were time to play the 2nd quest and enjoy it. Been watching your videos and It is great that you are discovering some of these lost 80s gems. Frankly I don't think I would have the same patience playing these games these days.
Hey thanks very much! I had an NES and a Genesis growing up, but we only had a handful of games for each console between me and my siblings. I have no idea how I heard about the second quest since lots of friends in elementary school really weren't into gaming, but I was glad to finally get through it a couple of years ago. I play the first quest about once a year usually.
I've been really grateful to get my hands on lots of new-to-me games that I didn't have growing. There are so many great adventures to have.
I had replayed zelda a couple months ago and for the love of god i remembered just walking through some of the dungeon walls. Watching this video reminded me i wasn't crazy, I just had been remembering the wrong quest.
Did you beat it when you replayed it? Because you could get back to wall walking again if you really wanted to... :)
@@hungrygoriya I did but it took awhile....LOL Just don't have enough time to play as much as I would like but the younger me more than made up for that.
@@nebulapig Fair enough! Well if you ever do give the second quest another go, I hope you have a blast with it. I loved it so much more than I thought I would despite the challenge!
Major props to you for having the fortitude to complete the second quest! Very few people ever do it! You may want to try a game called 8 Eyes if you like dual game play through. Once you beat it the first time you have to go through again and do it with a different sword pattern to get the real ending.
Thank you so much! I'm glad I pushed through it, though Level 4 in the second quest makes me want to leave it behind for a little while before I play it again.
And 8 Eyes has been sitting on my shelf for a while now! I'd definitely like to try that one out sometime. I love the music so much.
Level 4 & 7 are nightmare levels!
However I feel it was so genius to include the walk through the walls > new challenge (swordless)😜
Genius, and also evil :) It took me forever to find 7... I think it was the last dungeon I found. So sneaky!!!
@@hungrygoriya no doubt ! 7 is still the "CHALLENGE" I enjoy🤤
I was injured in the beginning of February at work.. So I've had some time on my hands to conquer my run🏃 my PB is 45:15 (GLITCHLESS) 1st quest! Now I've moved onto T&C surf designs "again"
Great video! You totally have a top tier radio voice. Relaxing & articulate.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
God, I'm glad I discovered this channel! This a great video! Thanks!
Thanks for stopping by! Enjoy :)
Nice video. I remember finishing the first quest and the game having another quest. I didn’t want to start. I took some off and then did the second quest. It was fun.
Thank you! It's nice that the game gave you something to look forward to back then, and by complete surprise!
Great video! I played the second quest as a kid immediately following the first. However, I was kind of blown away by how much harder it was! I put many hours into it, but never beat it. Twenty years later, I pulled out my old NES and finally finished it. There should be a support group for players who lose their magical shields to Like likes.
Nice work! I would definitely join a support group for that... it's awful :D
Elden Ring owes everything to the OG Legend of Zelda. When we were kids in 1987, we had to discover every nook and cranny of LoZ, and it was the most epic adventure while using our imagination.
I'm stopping at 3:14 because I don't want to spoil anything, but I am definitely looking forward to trying this. I recently played Zelda 1 for the first time on my AV Famicom and it blew me away. I didn't grow up with any of these games, so I've been on a bit of a quest of my own playing through the ones that interest me in chronological order. Right now I'm on Adventure Island but I just finished Metroid recently and that was also an incredible game. Nice channel, I'll have to see if you have anything for games I've already played.
Fair enough! I hope you enjoy Zelda when you get to it, and good luck on the NES discovery quest. There's tons of good stuff in the library. Adventure Island II is my favourite platformer from the NES bunch, and Adventure Island IV is one of my favourite games on the Famicom. It's definitely worth playing if you can find the translation patch for it!
@@hungrygoriya Oh, I’m definitely playing all of them! Adventure Island 1 is so incredibly hard though. Took me like ten hours lol.
@@HPRshredder For me, Adventure Island 1 can burn in hell haha
Yeah, nobody ever talks about the second quest. It made sense to me to continue with the second quest as soon as I finished the first.
Great video Goriya. And I must say, those invisible walls always pissed me off as a kid. Never knew about them until much later on in life. While I've finished the main quest many times....the second quest I've only finished once. And that was enough! lol.
I totally feel like I'd play the second quest again in a heartbeat. I loved it. Call me masochistic, but it was one of the most satisfying gaming experiences I've had in a long time.
It is criminal that you have so few subscribers.
The channel's always slowly growing, so I'm glad for that. Thanks for watching!
One way to ensure your game will become legendary to countless kids over decades, put the name Legend in the title.
When I heard the Faxanadu music at the begining i knew I was on a good channel.
Interesting video, gonna check the second quest when I have the chance. No idea why youtube is recomending your video after a year and a half but I'm glad it did.
Better late than never! I'm glad you found me!
Your videos are really relaxing, fresh takes on a lot of these games.
Too kind! Thank you for taking the time to check them out.
@@hungrygoriya no problem. If you ever decide you want to play a third and fourth Quest, I made a rom hack that is in the spirit of the original just with new dungeons and a few changes to the overworld. If you ever like to have it I can send it to you. Just let me know how if not I won't take it personal haha. Have a great night.
How'd I miss this videos???