EDIT: Talking with my fellow Evocati I was notified that we NOT given the MKII as a being a part of ETF. Instead this was given to me initially by CIG due to me being a content creator. I was not notified of this from CIG. Regardless, as mentioned in the video, I purchased the ship with my own money anyway because I want to be honest in my critique and have skin in the game just as much as any of you, and will continue to due so where possible with future reviews and impressions. Just some extra transparency and context. Some time ago, Chris floated the idea that they may look into the idea of having older ships be surpassed by new versions of those ships and the older ones would be more for collectors. This may well be the start of that idea coming to fruition. Even so, I'm still salty about them not even getting the old model to gold standard before the new one. I really hope they do actually work to finishing those ships by bringing them up to standard rather than them languishing behind everything else over time. Looking at you Gladiator, my love who is unloved by CIG ;_; Any way, rant over. Let me know your thoughts, both on the Hornet MK2 and how CIG rolled things out, as I am curious about your opinions on the whole thing. Also, big shout out to nikkkis90 for being our first channel member! Remember folks, if you want to support the channel and want to help me make videos like this one, consider joining and becoming a member today! th-cam.com/channels/eSMtWcJwjm6Dj4GrWFngqA.htmljoin See you all in the next one! o7
Was probably rushed out for the event leading up to Invictus tbh.. but I do hope they finish up the job soon. The turret looks very silly and yeah and I can't put my cap back on.. found that out to late.. 1st thing I tried at release was adding the turret of course lol. I like the thrusters more and general look inside/out of the ship though. The fact the main engine is not animated and the old version is, is a bummer I hope its just another oversight. Also the audio issues you noticed and for some reason I didn't get the paint addon even though I paid for it separate from the ship (and yes its not at home planet). I am right there with you and the frustration on releasing the ship like this but really don't think its the team working on it to blame. Marketing and/or other teams was probably the issue here. It could even be the ship was just copied from SQ42 and quickly modded to work for the PU.. "done". Hope not because if that's the case will have to wait a long time before it or the Mk1 is fixed. In the long run probably won't keep it, I have the F8C already, just made this part of a CCU chain I'm cooking =)
@@DaveSouthPhotoI'd argue the mk1 isn't up the SC's standards, and I think they should just sunset the design and make either the mk2 the current model or swap the assets on the mk1s to be the mk2 style.
It seems weird that CIG would add to its Gold Standard Backlog rather than chip away at it. I have an alternate theory: this year's Invictus was planned several years ago, but the ship team fell behind, especially when the BMM guys bolted/poached.
I agree. I think they're pushing out pre existing ships because they're ship building teams are falling behind schedule. Probably because they have to add all the extra engineering junk for future updates.
They got a lot of costs right now .... And they have non gold pass ships left over from sq42... So this is already on gold pass backlog, just was hidden from players
It's no big issue, this is from SQ42. Backlog is being chipped away at but as one person said, and HyperV explained tech debt like Maelstrom and more will affect all ships.
Would be nice to actually know instead of having to assume and buy a ship. I hope your right, has much as I hate it I may get the F7A all that one pilot hurricane fire power is hard to resist..
This was mentioned somewhere. When discussing the Zeus Mk II MR I believe.. something along the lines of "Of course, you'll be able to put these prisoner pods on the cargo grid. But bounty hunting ships will be better equipped to efficiently store additional bounties" Edit- I probably misread that..and you know that they're coming..and predicting that they'll be 2 SCU xD
That's absolutely incredible that there is a truck release INSIDE the cargo trunk. It's as if CIG knew what we'd do with it. I do get the rant though, because you'd expect new stuff to be gold standard. The Mk II seems like it's not specifically new, just the fact that we get it is and for a marketing event to make it worse. I don't see the 2 MFD's as a deal breaker though. Four feels optimal most of the time, but the UI footage we've seen shows very clear target and self status UI's in the corners. So whenever we get that the two MFD's in there will be free of that. On the plus side, while I haven't seen a schedule for the gold standard passes, this should be a priority one for Sq 42.
that button to open the cargo doors from the INSIDE is a nice touch that you wouldn't normally expect. it really gives you the impression that the devs do actually pay attention to detail and they know that players were going to play around with that little cargo pod. 7:20 is comically cursed as well)
you can actually get in the cockpit of the ship with a second person where the pilot opens the canopy and you can just float in and it has gravity and actually a lot of moveable area
I haven't flown (or owned) a F7 mkI in so long, I forgot how much utility the cockpit had with the 6 mfds, granted it took away quiet a bit of visibility. Also one thing to note is that you can actually earn the f7a mkII military upgrade by completing these overdrive missions they drop until invictus and since you need to own the f7c mkII on the pledge store to apply it this whole thing is effectively an F7A MKII military version sale, just being obscured so they can still claim that they "won't sell the f7a".
I doubt they're going to remove the Mk1 modules without replacing them with newer Mk2 versions. The Mk1 modules look out of place primarily because they sit so high on the model, which seems to be the case because they use the old Y-axis values meant for the Mk1 Hornet even though the Mk2 is slimmer. Should be easy to fix.
Noting CIG has the Overdrive initiative to upgrade the F7C to the F7A for completing all 6, I do wish that the cargo on the F7C was accessible. I feel that it would have been a great way to have gone into Phase 5 supply drop flying the F7C and storing the three small boxes on it.
I brought the ship and havent flown it yet, and you know what...i don't want to, i'll melt it and wait for Invictus, it'll need to it sorted by then. The reason CIG has adopted this sloppy attitude towards its lifesblood, and that, after all is what we are, is, because we are invested, and in many cases, heavily invested, which makes us very unlikely to walk away, no matter what shinanigans they pull. Its a shame, can only imagine the financial fun and games they will pull with SQ42. Nice personal overview, kudos.
Thank you for your honest review. I'm currently having a go at the overdrive initiative for the F7C MK2 to A mk2 conversion, although I do not own a F7C MK2 yet... I'm also not really into combat myself tbh and thus far I probably will stay away from it and spend my hard earned cash on something else in Star Citizen (I actually spent enough already anyways) 😅 So again, thank you for helping me to decide and looking forward to your new landing/take-off season soon!
I like this ship. My biggest gripe is with the wings. They should be moveable independent of landing gear state. The weapons on the wings still have good arcs with the wings in so why do I need the landing gear down to have them in? The only time the wings should be out is low speed flight in atmosphere where we need the (incoming) control surfaces.
i want miltary versions of all the ships now or mk 2 variants like the mk 2 wildfire or a gladiator military version, perhaps something with wings that fold up so they can fit in tighter spots. but cool video.
Wouldnt it be great if they had a group of players that could test these ships out in advance under NDA so that the bugs could be removed before th elaunch of the ship.......
Great impressions vid, thanks. I share the frustration I have an Ares Inferno, not the fabled gunship I hoped for, maybe later when armor counts. Why does this monster fighter have zero box storage/bunk ability? I traded out my Vulture right before it turned useful, so I am skittish about upgrading to a Hornet or such.
The reason it's half-assed is because this is basically the F7A which has been done for years, and they pulled an F8 on us. The F7A was supposed to unobtainium for most people, and only like 2 people actually own one. Instead they thought, "Hey, let's do another cash grab and pretend this is a civilian version and hide the military variant behind these buggy grind-fests that are impossible to do alone"
Your not banking deep enough in atmo, Ollie43 did a very good job of showing/explaining the amount of banking you need to do to make the ship happy. Once you get there it flies well enough just at a crazy angle.
Let's be real here. Whoever bought this bought it for the A version upgrade. I will pass on this. Knowing CIG we don't have to wait too long for a new F8 upgrade IMHO.
So will the MK 2's civillian version have a addable ball turret that isn't the MK 1's? It looks.. really bad, and I'm hoping we'll be able to get a ball turret designed specifically for the MK 2
Why? It's a well made ship and I can actually finally fly a hornet and not have blue lights blasted into my eyes. Sure, f7a will be overpowered, but it's not like you need to add new money to change to it.
at 3:55 we can see difference with position of maneuverable jets I used to play star citizen long time ago when developers were excited and highly rising fly model where each ships fly unique because it is defined by where those jets are placed, but with new mastermodes what I've heard they want to make each ship to fit certain category and specifics ... so does it even matter anymore or will the ships handle and fly the same way I mean when you will fly Hornet F7C, F7MSuper, F8 and F7-MK2 will they behive same and difference is in bigger gun loadouts, I have to say I'm confused a lot with this ship sales which are not even in gold standard
They have abandoned a physicalized thruster model a long time ago, once they found out that their ship designers were not able to actually come up with ships that look like Chris wants them ANd at the same time be reasonable balanced with their thruster performance. It was a crazy time when they tried that, but it has been gone since many, many years.
i'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to CR and CIG... MK2 could be a Wing Commander 4 stealth ship style thing in SQ42. although, i really figured the F8 would be that ship. regardless, it probably should have released at least close to a gold standard, i'm not sure what that is about. however, if it's not a WC4 type thing, then hopefully "MK2" ships don't become a trend.
i assume that updating the old hornet was discussed and instead marketing suggested selling it as a new ship . to add insult to injury they have us run this really cool chain mission for a "free" upgrade to the F7A but the condition is to buy the new MK2 .,. Yes this company runs like a mobile game
Well, seems like the girls n guys who worked on the mk2 just left cig or swapped to another task during the work ... as we know ship sales are scheduled for at least 1y in advance. In the end guys, its an ingame non-exclusive ship, everyone will fly it eventually, don't fall for FOMO and if you like to spend money for SC, buy a starter ship and gift it to a friend ...
You can't even properly judge this ship without it's free upgrade and armor which isn't in the game yet. Part of the upgrade is the military armor and that's still incoming. This ship is missing a major feature so what are you reviewing?
I want a Mk2 version of the turret that the Heartseeker has so I can mount the size 4, but I agree that the Mk1 version of that turret looks like wart on this ship. The A turret looks great on it though.
The thing is... weapons and turret moutns should be modular... I have no idea why they made it in a way where it looks stupid when you put there turret from superhornet
I like your point around gold standard. Don't be releasing a new ship that isn't gold standard. This was an opportunity to bring the MK1 Hornet and MK2 hornet up to gold standard, with the MK2 release, and tempt some purchases with the MK2-A upgrade. It makes this feel disingenuous as a cash grab not doing so.
we ask why it's not feature complete and CIG marketing team mind works let's sell incomplete ship and when we add components we will sell it again for a higher price... oh yes this ship is coming from SQ42 which we said is Feature Complete which means it should work but somehow it doesn't so if the rest of SQ42 is as FeatureComplete as F8/F7mk2... RIP SQ42
I'd guess, that they wanted to have a reward for the event and couldn't scramble anything new, so they just used an old ship that's been sitting on the shelf forgotten (good, it was wasted there).
Maelstrom is the physics based destruction system that handles everything from world physics destruction down to ships and other objects as well. If you want to learn more, you can watch some of the CitizenCon presentations on Maelstrom that talk about it. th-cam.com/video/8ZjnPdqHjDw/w-d-xo.html
Perhaps you should take a step back and look at the _whole_ picture. People have in large part stopped playing Star Citizen. Not because they don't love it, but because 3.23 is right around the corner with massive changes. Including a full wipe. So there really isn't a lot of reason _to_ play. By putting out the new F7 and then tossing in a multi-stage event that gets you the military version, they've got people coming back to play. And more importantly, play test some areas they are tweaking and improving. Have you _tried_ the mission? Those AI's are not what everyone is used to. They are sprinting out of elevators. They are strafing as they are shooting. They are a challenge now. So yes, part of putting it out was to get more money. But honestly, I think the bigger reason was to get people playing again instead of just Spreading Democracy(tm) while they wait for the next patch.
I haven't played since 3.19 and was planning to come back check out 3.23. I'm playing now... mission successful. And I'm having fun, so it's great that they dragged me back in early.
As a backer for almost a decade I feel their slap together ships and corner cutting are an insult to those who pledge. Yes they need to make money like you mentioned, but not selling a decent quality ship day one gets under my skin and I have stop investing in this game.
I do not understand why your angry. This is a great improvement to the previous hornet model cause it is outdated and trash looks like a floating piece of trash can or flying brick in space. The new hornet mk 2 model is sleek, aerodynamic, much cooler, more powerful size 4 and size 3 weapons, and they finally fix the interior and exterior of the spaceship's design language to be aggressive and yet agile and fast but not fast as a light fighter. I'm guessing you enjoy playing outdated spaceships like 8 or 9 years since S.C. is released.
@brandontseng8857 yeah there is only room for one manufacturer to fabricate flying trash cans, let my Buccaneer and herals keep their status of ugly trash rocket
If only you could stash a prisoner in that 2 SCU space where you could load them up in a dropdown seat like the Anvil Hurricane. Then the lore could say something like, "In addressing the growing need for improvements in civilian law enforcement, Anvil answered the call by first drawing from lessons learned with the Hawk, and then taking inspiration from their best-selling Hurricane and incorporated its secondary-seating technology for the purposes of criminal transport."
That flimsy gun hardpoints and their location relative to the gun look hilarious. It's like a single tiny screw holding a 1 meter gun far off it's optical center...
My guess is, CIG needs money, so it pulled an old, never used variant out of storage, got it up to minimum functional levels, and is selling it as 'new'.
Unfortunately, This ship, like the F8C is simply an old, existing model that they tweaked a few performance numbers on and pushed out. These are not new ships. On the contrary; they are old ships from a previous era of the game. They were rushed out and suffered the indignity of not having the gold pass before release. I personally think the Devs weren't given the opportunity to gold pass these ships, before being ordered to release them. I feel that all they had time to do was to adjust the stats a bit. Definitely a missed opportunity here. As always, great video! Keep up the great work!
Also since SQ42 and SC were different teams in different timezones working on partially different codebases that may have diverged quite a bit during certain focus sprints, it probably wasn't just a tweakless copy&paste to drop this SQ42 asset into SC.
Great video, very detailed analysis. I learned a lot about the ship that I had initially missed. I understand your negative feedback, but I would also note that no one is buying the F7C MK2 to keep it. Everyone is buying it to upgrade it to the F7A Mk2. I'm not saying you are wrong but I think CIG expects ppl to upgrade. The entire point of the Overdrive event is to upgrade the ship so I guess CIG thought "why should we waste money fixing a ship that no one is going to keep anyway?". And all of this is going to happen in the next 2 months, it could potentially have taken them longer to get this ship to gold standard. Basically they are selling a token which instantly gets added to player's accounts without the need to run around digging through loot boxes.
As a backer from kickstarter days (2012), this is reasons why I've stopped buying as many ships. from my recollection there is still stuff half done or not finished from the early days because they are not making money on it. good vod tho on the current state of things, good to see honest views and not views masked by money and free ships
Really like this deep dive and I agree the lack of gold pass annoyed me also. We should be keeping up a standard as the project moves forward not taking a step back just for a money grab. I will say Iiked the event for the military upgrade, it gives us a reason or purpose to play. Still not sure if I’ll keep the mk2 or f8 but I’ll judge that when the military upgrade is out. I’ve always loved the F7 so happy to see it get a new upgrade and will probably favour the mk2
putting the MKI turrets on the MKII is probably planned, I get that people may not like the look but in the real world, when a military launches a updated platform older hardware is more often than not compatable due to availability, or the fact that there's thousands of both models that will be in service.
It’s not a Gold standard like the F8 because they are both very very old ship, dating back to when the “new” vehicle pipeline was released, F7 mk2 development can date back to 2017
maneuvering thrusters in this game are stupid AF. It's literally high school physics. Torque = radius × force. You want them to be as far away from the centre of mass as possible yet they put them near the centre. And all of those wings and other stupid extentions of the body just makes the ship turn and rotate slower because of their inertia. why don't they just put maneuvering thrusters on wings and actually make use of them. instead they put guns on wings and put them far away from each other causing terrible fixed weapon convergence. They make these so called spaceships with no idea how to actually make a viable one. every single design decision is the wrong one.
The 2 MFD is the biggest problem for me. I'm glad the put the Visor HUDS back in, but for some reason the F7C is one of the ship that doesn't have it working. Edit: CIG have since marked it as a known issue
I refuse to buy this ship on principle, for many reasons. The main reason for me, though, has to do with the same issue you talk about at the beginning of your 'cons' segment. It's the fact that the Specialty VariPuck S5 center gimbal you can equip STILL DOESN'T AUTO-GIMBAL AS INTENDED, just like it didn't on any of the Mk.I's. To explain: This ship is essentially just a copy-paste of the F7A Mk.II that's been in the game for years, just with a different name, paint job, and with the nose and center ball turrets unequipped. They literally put as little time as possible into putting this ship into the PU, then charged $175 for a partially broken copy of a ship you could already buy. As for the center Specialty VariPuck S5: no matter what gun you equip to the gimbal, the gun doesn't visually turn or aim the projectiles when set to 'Auto' gimbal mode. When in 'manual' gimbal mode, the projectiles will actually aim a little, but the gun doesn't turn visually. Now, I know a lot of you are going to say, "just use it in 'fixed' mode like your other guns should be anyways." And while yes, this is possible, though arguably it makes more sense to use all guns gimbaled for practice since they will all be gimbaled soon anyways. The other general phoned-in features of the ship, like also only having only two MFDs and disabling the helmet mounted ones among other issues, made me demand a refund on principle for the ship purchase. CIG has started to do greed-driven crap like this lately, and I'm done giving them my money when they do things like sell a broken reskin of an existing ship for $175, and don't even put in the tiniest bit of effort to fix some of the bugs inherent to the original version. It gives me Activision or EA vibes, and I refuse to support these kinds of practices.
this ship is 8 years old at this point and was only just released. it was created and then not really touched since them, it seems. I still enjoy the ship, regardless. atmospheric maneuvering requires SCM speeds and straight pitching. no strafing, no pitch + yaw. it has different tuning from any other ship. in 3.23 this will be for taking on fighters in MM, F8C will be a larger ship hitter.
Not defending CIG here but pretty sure the mk2 and F8C were "released" in not gold standard state because they're not actually new ships, both have been in SC for a while but not usable by players, all CIG really did was let players use some older ships, ideally they should have given both a gold pass before selling them. Storage on the entry menu is called "magic storage" by the community I think.
appreciate the review, was thinking about popping back in to SC to give it a try but it sounds like a lot of the issues ive had with it over time are just getting worse. Not to mention you showing dogfights with NPCs STILL lag jumping back and forth mid fight just like they were almost a year ago now. I'll tune back in when there's concrete evidence it's worth it.
Great video, thankd got the review! This is a weirdly confusing ship. The "Mk II" makes me scared that they may try selling more MkII models of ships instead of updating existing ships to gold standard. So I agree, don't buy and don't support the lazy unpolished ship.
I saw the tuning forks on the Mk 2 and I threw up a little right as the video started. They are great weapons, but they need a make over. Great advice at the end if you already own an F8C to avoid the Mk2 for now... But you know... targets are set on the F7A, Overdrive completion for that sweet CCU upgrade.
I could not agree more with you about CIG not following through with the hole Gold Standard thing on new ships what a let down But i have long said what Cig say they will give us and what they actually deliver is always two different things It will always be this way They could give two hoots about how much money or how little each backer invested in there ship packages once you click on complete transaction they have your money and thats all they care about sorry to be the barer of bad news but after playing for ten years i have learnd to just enjoy the game for what it is and how it is
I was very disappointed this is not a gold pass ship: no weapon rack or proper storage like the Gladius or components accessible, it’s just the stock mk 1 with a new body and bigger weapon hard points. Nice looking but feels like a cash grab if I’m honest.
You can not put the F7A turrets on. I tried. They fixed it so you can no longer mount the F7A turrets anymore on any hornet. :( If you already have one equipped they will stay there until the next wipe but you can not take the turrets off and put them on another hornet.
I wish they would stop putting turrets on top of the fighters. They look so goofy. Even the nose guns look so goofy and to be real about it, those mounts would seriously throw off the aerodynamics of the platform.
Two versions of the same vehicle not having some part interchangeability wouldn't really make sense so i feel like it is intentional that you can use mk1 turrets on the mk2 and if it isn't intentional they should make the f7a turrets available or add mk2 versions of the mk1 turrets
It's not the same vehicle though the Mark Two is a different ship, the successor to the ancient older F7A, they are different generations of Anvils Medium Fighter.
Fr tho, especially when every ship that has any form of significance is atleast $100, they should handle it with more care. If they’re going to do it, do it right or don’t do it at all.
In the past at least it was possible to take off the chin and top turret of the F7A mk2 that the first arlingon gang member flew from the first miles mission, been told it might have been disabled, but if it still works you get 4x S3 guns using those. + 2 wing mounts. I tried to do it the other day but didn't realize on the dark side of hurston we were over the ocean, soft dead mk2 hit the drink...
Grab what money? You don't need any new money to get it since they didn't even offer a warbond ccu. It's just a new candy flavor for ppl who have not donated at all yet. Unlike the F8 (that not only didn't give anything for free but didn't even offer a ccu), this event gives an actual reward for participating.
I needed* a smaller fighter, as my main is a warden, so this fits perfect for me. Ship is crazy in atmosphere though, absolutely miserable but it tanks well enough for when the nose runs from me
Great review, Really hope you find a second to answer this question 🙏. For someone that does mostly solo pve, but is wanting to do pvp (player bounties) currently flying a scorpius with fixed size 3s. I was thinking of melting the scorpius for the hornet. They both check the style box for me. Hornet: better guns (as a solo player) more maneuverable( mabey? ) cargo box for looting bounties. Scorpius: more missiles, gold standard, more hull hp , 2 shield faces, and its the x wing of SC😅. I know I can melt the scorpius and buy it back in game and have extra store credits after getting a hornet . Which would you own ?
2x nn-13 (fl-11 overheat), 2x fl-22 and 2x AD4B is my best result after playing with it all day yesterday (pve only). The superhornet nose looks dumb, but 2xS1 is just more power. Full lazer loadout feels like a waste of S4 slots as it only adds about 60% extra dps, while AD4B's quadruples it (and 2xS1 + 2xS2 is more than enough to kill anything small, so you can just save the big guns for big threats (or that pesky terrapin that shows up as MRT)).
Hey, I've been enjoying your videos for quite a while, appreciate the professionalism and effort you put into them and the expertise on the subject matter. Ok, now about this Hornet Mk II. That was a pretty heart felt 10 minute rant there, basically half of the video. All of it completely true, I expect. They admitted that the Lightning came out in the spec it has because it was sitting on the shelf for years and then last year they decided they needed to make a lot of money in the third and fourth quarters, and rushed it out the door. And yes, this ship feels very similar to that. But you know, they gotta pay for that swank office building in Manchester and the hundreds of staff somehow. They've built an infrastructure that has a lot of future potential, but right now it's like the Titanic with passengers on board but no way to get out of the harbor. They're still using words like "pledge" and "support" and "reward", and excluding the words "pay" or "spend" or "product". The jury is still out, on whether they will make it out of dock at all, and whether they'll hit the iceberg or not. Only time will tell.
So, what is your final score? Is it 10/10 or less? And will you be marking it across various factors/roles? Is it cinematic? I hope my riff on your landings scorings gave you a smile
I can answer you that easy, the gold standard. Money, pure money, when do You get that cig is fucking greedy lol, they now feel the soon 4 month of nothing, No releases, No New ships sales etc, so they are low, very low on money this year.
EDIT: Talking with my fellow Evocati I was notified that we NOT given the MKII as a being a part of ETF. Instead this was given to me initially by CIG due to me being a content creator. I was not notified of this from CIG. Regardless, as mentioned in the video, I purchased the ship with my own money anyway because I want to be honest in my critique and have skin in the game just as much as any of you, and will continue to due so where possible with future reviews and impressions. Just some extra transparency and context.
Some time ago, Chris floated the idea that they may look into the idea of having older ships be surpassed by new versions of those ships and the older ones would be more for collectors. This may well be the start of that idea coming to fruition. Even so, I'm still salty about them not even getting the old model to gold standard before the new one. I really hope they do actually work to finishing those ships by bringing them up to standard rather than them languishing behind everything else over time. Looking at you Gladiator, my love who is unloved by CIG ;_;
Any way, rant over. Let me know your thoughts, both on the Hornet MK2 and how CIG rolled things out, as I am curious about your opinions on the whole thing.
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This ship isn't gold standard.
@@Sader325 both the old and new one are not. My point is they roll out a new ship and still did not even gold standard the old one. It is just sad.
Yeah, wish they'd fixed all the outstanding issues in the old one rather than roll out a new one.
Was probably rushed out for the event leading up to Invictus tbh.. but I do hope they finish up the job soon. The turret looks very silly and yeah and I can't put my cap back on.. found that out to late.. 1st thing I tried at release was adding the turret of course lol. I like the thrusters more and general look inside/out of the ship though. The fact the main engine is not animated and the old version is, is a bummer I hope its just another oversight. Also the audio issues you noticed and for some reason I didn't get the paint addon even though I paid for it separate from the ship (and yes its not at home planet).
I am right there with you and the frustration on releasing the ship like this but really don't think its the team working on it to blame. Marketing and/or other teams was probably the issue here. It could even be the ship was just copied from SQ42 and quickly modded to work for the PU.. "done". Hope not because if that's the case will have to wait a long time before it or the Mk1 is fixed.
In the long run probably won't keep it, I have the F8C already, just made this part of a CCU chain I'm cooking =)
@@DaveSouthPhotoI'd argue the mk1 isn't up the SC's standards, and I think they should just sunset the design and make either the mk2 the current model or swap the assets on the mk1s to be the mk2 style.
It seems weird that CIG would add to its Gold Standard Backlog rather than chip away at it.
I have an alternate theory: this year's Invictus was planned several years ago, but the ship team fell behind, especially when the BMM guys bolted/poached.
That'll happen when you pay developers peanuts and have 0 managment skills.
I agree. I think they're pushing out pre existing ships because they're ship building teams are falling behind schedule. Probably because they have to add all the extra engineering junk for future updates.
They got a lot of costs right now .... And they have non gold pass ships left over from sq42... So this is already on gold pass backlog, just was hidden from players
It's no big issue, this is from SQ42. Backlog is being chipped away at but as one person said, and HyperV explained tech debt like Maelstrom and more will affect all ships.
@@hephaestion12 Well they wouldn't have so much expenses if Sandy didn't blow through our money like a coke fiend on useless stuff!
my prediction is a prisoner transport box on grid is gonna be 2 scu
Would be nice to actually know instead of having to assume and buy a ship. I hope your right, has much as I hate it I may get the F7A all that one pilot hurricane fire power is hard to resist..
@@Vioblighti really hope the cargomodule will be buyable ingame so you are able to go the middle way with 2s4+2s3 and 2scu :D
@@N0xtron nice nice maybe it will be.
I don’t see many uses for 2Scu personally. Maybe distribution centers will have deep valuable 1/2 scu boxes.
This was mentioned somewhere. When discussing the Zeus Mk II MR I believe.. something along the lines of "Of course, you'll be able to put these prisoner pods on the cargo grid. But bounty hunting ships will be better equipped to efficiently store additional bounties"
Edit- I probably misread that..and you know that they're coming..and predicting that they'll be 2 SCU xD
Really appreciate your candid constructive feedback on the ship. I hope someone from CIG hears your feedback and at least considers it.
That's absolutely incredible that there is a truck release INSIDE the cargo trunk. It's as if CIG knew what we'd do with it.
I do get the rant though, because you'd expect new stuff to be gold standard. The Mk II seems like it's not specifically new, just the fact that we get it is and for a marketing event to make it worse. I don't see the 2 MFD's as a deal breaker though. Four feels optimal most of the time, but the UI footage we've seen shows very clear target and self status UI's in the corners. So whenever we get that the two MFD's in there will be free of that.
On the plus side, while I haven't seen a schedule for the gold standard passes, this should be a priority one for Sq 42.
that button to open the cargo doors from the INSIDE is a nice touch that you wouldn't normally expect. it really gives you the impression that the devs do actually pay attention to detail and they know that players were going to play around with that little cargo pod.
7:20 is comically cursed as well)
you can actually get in the cockpit of the ship with a second person where the pilot opens the canopy and you can just float in and it has gravity and actually a lot of moveable area
How is Yogi supposed to balance shit when they keep power creep on the weapons classes on ships supposedly in the same class?
I haven't flown (or owned) a F7 mkI in so long, I forgot how much utility the cockpit had with the 6 mfds, granted it took away quiet a bit of visibility. Also one thing to note is that you can actually earn the f7a mkII military upgrade by completing these overdrive missions they drop until invictus and since you need to own the f7c mkII on the pledge store to apply it this whole thing is effectively an F7A MKII military version sale, just being obscured so they can still claim that they "won't sell the f7a".
They look great. If we can buy them in game someday, I'll pick it up.
I doubt they're going to remove the Mk1 modules without replacing them with newer Mk2 versions. The Mk1 modules look out of place primarily because they sit so high on the model, which seems to be the case because they use the old Y-axis values meant for the Mk1 Hornet even though the Mk2 is slimmer. Should be easy to fix.
Noting CIG has the Overdrive initiative to upgrade the F7C to the F7A for completing all 6, I do wish that the cargo on the F7C was accessible. I feel that it would have been a great way to have gone into Phase 5 supply drop flying the F7C and storing the three small boxes on it.
I brought the ship and havent flown it yet, and you know what...i don't want to, i'll melt it and wait for Invictus, it'll need to it sorted by then. The reason CIG has adopted this sloppy attitude towards its lifesblood, and that, after all is what we are, is, because we are invested, and in many cases, heavily invested, which makes us very unlikely to walk away, no matter what shinanigans they pull. Its a shame, can only imagine the financial fun and games they will pull with SQ42. Nice personal overview, kudos.
Cost sunk fallacy. Just sell your account and be free brother.
Thank you for your honest review. I'm currently having a go at the overdrive initiative for the F7C MK2 to A mk2 conversion, although I do not own a F7C MK2 yet... I'm also not really into combat myself tbh and thus far I probably will stay away from it and spend my hard earned cash on something else in Star Citizen (I actually spent enough already anyways) 😅
So again, thank you for helping me to decide and looking forward to your new landing/take-off season soon!
I like this ship. My biggest gripe is with the wings. They should be moveable independent of landing gear state. The weapons on the wings still have good arcs with the wings in so why do I need the landing gear down to have them in? The only time the wings should be out is low speed flight in atmosphere where we need the (incoming) control surfaces.
i want miltary versions of all the ships now or mk 2 variants like the mk 2 wildfire or a gladiator military version, perhaps something with wings that fold up so they can fit in tighter spots. but cool video.
All of the Negatives mentioned i agree with! The mk. II really should have the better turrets, made for it & and all of the oversights are just....
100% agree, especially on the negatives. Love the newer design tho 🤙🏻
Wouldnt it be great if they had a group of players that could test these ships out in advance under NDA so that the bugs could be removed before th elaunch of the ship.......
Great impressions vid, thanks. I share the frustration I have an Ares Inferno, not the fabled gunship I hoped for, maybe later when armor counts. Why does this monster fighter have zero box storage/bunk ability? I traded out my Vulture right before it turned useful, so I am skittish about upgrading to a Hornet or such.
The reason it's half-assed is because this is basically the F7A which has been done for years, and they pulled an F8 on us. The F7A was supposed to unobtainium for most people, and only like 2 people actually own one. Instead they thought, "Hey, let's do another cash grab and pretend this is a civilian version and hide the military variant behind these buggy grind-fests that are impossible to do alone"
Your not banking deep enough in atmo, Ollie43 did a very good job of showing/explaining the amount of banking you need to do to make the ship happy. Once you get there it flies well enough just at a crazy angle.
"quick refresh" *20 min video*. dam the long form is going to be interesting 🤔
Those aren't intakes btw, those are retro-thrusters.
Let's be real here. Whoever bought this bought it for the A version upgrade. I will pass on this. Knowing CIG we don't have to wait too long for a new F8 upgrade IMHO.
Anyone know if there's going to be an f7C-M mk2?
So will the MK 2's civillian version have a addable ball turret that isn't the MK 1's? It looks.. really bad, and I'm hoping we'll be able to get a ball turret designed specifically for the MK 2
People should stop buying ships like this, its the only way cig learns.
Already bought it sry
Why? It's a well made ship and I can actually finally fly a hornet and not have blue lights blasted into my eyes. Sure, f7a will be overpowered, but it's not like you need to add new money to change to it.
i must say i do enjoy the sound of the ship the boosters sound good
at 3:55 we can see difference with position of maneuverable jets I used to play star citizen long time ago when developers were excited and highly rising fly model where each ships fly unique because it is defined by where those jets are placed, but with new mastermodes what I've heard they want to make each ship to fit certain category and specifics ... so does it even matter anymore or will the ships handle and fly the same way I mean when you will fly Hornet F7C, F7MSuper, F8 and F7-MK2 will they behive same and difference is in bigger gun loadouts, I have to say I'm confused a lot with this ship sales which are not even in gold standard
They have abandoned a physicalized thruster model a long time ago, once they found out that their ship designers were not able to actually come up with ships that look like Chris wants them ANd at the same time be reasonable balanced with their thruster performance. It was a crazy time when they tried that, but it has been gone since many, many years.
i'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to CR and CIG... MK2 could be a Wing Commander 4 stealth ship style thing in SQ42. although, i really figured the F8 would be that ship. regardless, it probably should have released at least close to a gold standard, i'm not sure what that is about.
however, if it's not a WC4 type thing, then hopefully "MK2" ships don't become a trend.
it looks nice but MM kills my interrest in combat at the moment
That and the fps changes, kills my intrest in the game period. What a joke, all these years for a pos arcade game.
The super hornet has been so outclassed 😢
"Currently right now"
Not all ships need living quarters, especially not fighterjets
i assume that updating the old hornet was discussed and instead marketing suggested selling it as a new ship .
to add insult to injury they have us run this really cool chain mission for a "free" upgrade to the F7A but the condition is to buy the new MK2 .,.
Yes this company runs like a mobile game
Well, seems like the girls n guys who worked on the mk2 just left cig or swapped to another task during the work ... as we know ship sales are scheduled for at least 1y in advance. In the end guys, its an ingame non-exclusive ship, everyone will fly it eventually, don't fall for FOMO and if you like to spend money for SC, buy a starter ship and gift it to a friend ...
You can't even properly judge this ship without it's free upgrade and armor which isn't in the game yet. Part of the upgrade is the military armor and that's still incoming. This ship is missing a major feature so what are you reviewing?
The hair and makeup system took priority for CIG which is why we get ships like these.
Different teams 😃
I want a Mk2 version of the turret that the Heartseeker has so I can mount the size 4, but I agree that the Mk1 version of that turret looks like wart on this ship. The A turret looks great on it though.
The thing is... weapons and turret moutns should be modular... I have no idea why they made it in a way where it looks stupid when you put there turret from superhornet
I like your point around gold standard. Don't be releasing a new ship that isn't gold standard. This was an opportunity to bring the MK1 Hornet and MK2 hornet up to gold standard, with the MK2 release, and tempt some purchases with the MK2-A upgrade. It makes this feel disingenuous as a cash grab not doing so.
the weapons look to big for the ship, I don't like the astetics that way.
Nah, looks perfect. S4 on avenger looks much goofier and even that is still real nice. Big guns are cool, especially when size correlates with power.
Mk.II for 2 MFD 😂
Wake me up when F7A Mk.II Ghost (never)
Nah...aside of loving the hornets, I will stick with my Ares Inferno.
I still think the mk1 looks better it has that modern military feel
Why isn't it gold standard was exactly my first thought
we ask why it's not feature complete and CIG marketing team mind works let's sell incomplete ship and when we add components we will sell it again for a higher price... oh yes this ship is coming from SQ42 which we said is Feature Complete which means it should work but somehow it doesn't so if the rest of SQ42 is as FeatureComplete as F8/F7mk2... RIP SQ42
@@yashik I think they rushed it out because they are desperate for the cash. I hope I'm wrong
I'd guess, that they wanted to have a reward for the event and couldn't scramble anything new, so they just used an old ship that's been sitting on the shelf forgotten (good, it was wasted there).
I wasn't aware maelstrom was for vehicles. I thought it was only for static structures. Anyone have evidence?
There is a very old video of a gladius getting shredded with a very early version of maelstrom.
It's going to be for vehicles too
They talked about it at CitizenCon, specially using ships and ship systems as examples.
Maelstrom is the physics based destruction system that handles everything from world physics destruction down to ships and other objects as well. If you want to learn more, you can watch some of the CitizenCon presentations on Maelstrom that talk about it. th-cam.com/video/8ZjnPdqHjDw/w-d-xo.html
@@HybridVAudio thanks guy I'll watch that asap. I missed that one it seems
Perhaps you should take a step back and look at the _whole_ picture. People have in large part stopped playing Star Citizen. Not because they don't love it, but because 3.23 is right around the corner with massive changes. Including a full wipe. So there really isn't a lot of reason _to_ play.
By putting out the new F7 and then tossing in a multi-stage event that gets you the military version, they've got people coming back to play. And more importantly, play test some areas they are tweaking and improving. Have you _tried_ the mission? Those AI's are not what everyone is used to. They are sprinting out of elevators. They are strafing as they are shooting. They are a challenge now.
So yes, part of putting it out was to get more money. But honestly, I think the bigger reason was to get people playing again instead of just Spreading Democracy(tm) while they wait for the next patch.
I haven't played since 3.19 and was planning to come back check out 3.23. I'm playing now... mission successful. And I'm having fun, so it's great that they dragged me back in early.
Still looks like a lawnmower.
imo this ship is a disappointment.
I cant fly this ship with its ugly bullshit engine sound
Who cares
As a backer for almost a decade I feel their slap together ships and corner cutting are an insult to those who pledge. Yes they need to make money like you mentioned, but not selling a decent quality ship day one gets under my skin and I have stop investing in this game.
What do you mean it's not decent quality lol
Doesn't have all the little doors and buttons to press.
I do not understand why your angry. This is a great improvement to the previous hornet model cause it is outdated and trash looks like a floating piece of trash can or flying brick in space. The new hornet mk 2 model is sleek, aerodynamic, much cooler, more powerful size 4 and size 3 weapons, and they finally fix the interior and exterior of the spaceship's design language to be aggressive and yet agile and fast but not fast as a light fighter. I'm guessing you enjoy playing outdated spaceships like 8 or 9 years since S.C. is released.
@@Mnerd7368 I'm guessing you beat it in your mother's basement every night, to a picture of her.
@brandontseng8857 yeah there is only room for one manufacturer to fabricate flying trash cans, let my Buccaneer and herals keep their status of ugly trash rocket
they should make a version of the hornet that replaces the turret with a hot tub.
Bro 😂 $$$
Missile compartments make sense in a world where tractor beams can yoink missiles off parked ships
It's gonna make manual rearming a pain in the butt though.
they can only yoink the missile if you unlock the ports from inside the cockpit
If only you could stash a prisoner in that 2 SCU space where you could load them up in a dropdown seat like the Anvil Hurricane. Then the lore could say something like, "In addressing the growing need for improvements in civilian law enforcement, Anvil answered the call by first drawing from lessons learned with the Hawk, and then taking inspiration from their best-selling Hurricane and incorporated its secondary-seating technology for the purposes of criminal transport."
The cut corners are purely for CIG to sell the ship ASAP. Seems to be a monthly thing now
If only they spent some time on sound like Elite Dangerous. Most of the ships sound like they were made with a trash can of some sort.
That flimsy gun hardpoints and their location relative to the gun look hilarious. It's like a single tiny screw holding a 1 meter gun far off it's optical center...
My guess is, CIG needs money, so it pulled an old, never used variant out of storage, got it up to minimum functional levels, and is selling it as 'new'.
Unfortunately, This ship, like the F8C is simply an old, existing model that they tweaked a few performance numbers on and pushed out. These are not new ships. On the contrary; they are old ships from a previous era of the game. They were rushed out and suffered the indignity of not having the gold pass before release. I personally think the Devs weren't given the opportunity to gold pass these ships, before being ordered to release them. I feel that all they had time to do was to adjust the stats a bit. Definitely a missed opportunity here.
As always, great video! Keep up the great work!
Also since SQ42 and SC were different teams in different timezones working on partially different codebases that may have diverged quite a bit during certain focus sprints, it probably wasn't just a tweakless copy&paste to drop this SQ42 asset into SC.
Great video, very detailed analysis. I learned a lot about the ship that I had initially missed. I understand your negative feedback, but I would also note that no one is buying the F7C MK2 to keep it. Everyone is buying it to upgrade it to the F7A Mk2. I'm not saying you are wrong but I think CIG expects ppl to upgrade. The entire point of the Overdrive event is to upgrade the ship so I guess CIG thought "why should we waste money fixing a ship that no one is going to keep anyway?". And all of this is going to happen in the next 2 months, it could potentially have taken them longer to get this ship to gold standard. Basically they are selling a token which instantly gets added to player's accounts without the need to run around digging through loot boxes.
Agree. It's an obvious money grab.
As a backer from kickstarter days (2012), this is reasons why I've stopped buying as many ships.
from my recollection there is still stuff half done or not finished from the early days because they are not making money on it.
good vod tho on the current state of things, good to see honest views and not views masked by money and free ships
Really like this deep dive and I agree the lack of gold pass annoyed me also. We should be keeping up a standard as the project moves forward not taking a step back just for a money grab. I will say Iiked the event for the military upgrade, it gives us a reason or purpose to play. Still not sure if I’ll keep the mk2 or f8 but I’ll judge that when the military upgrade is out. I’ve always loved the F7 so happy to see it get a new upgrade and will probably favour the mk2
putting the MKI turrets on the MKII is probably planned, I get that people may not like the look but in the real world, when a military launches a updated platform older hardware is more often than not compatable due to availability, or the fact that there's thousands of both models that will be in service.
It’s not a Gold standard like the F8 because they are both very very old ship, dating back to when the “new” vehicle pipeline was released, F7 mk2 development can date back to 2017
maneuvering thrusters in this game are stupid AF. It's literally high school physics. Torque = radius × force. You want them to be as far away from the centre of mass as possible yet they put them near the centre. And all of those wings and other stupid extentions of the body just makes the ship turn and rotate slower because of their inertia. why don't they just put maneuvering thrusters on wings and actually make use of them. instead they put guns on wings and put them far away from each other causing terrible fixed weapon convergence.
They make these so called spaceships with no idea how to actually make a viable one. every single design decision is the wrong one.
The 2 MFD is the biggest problem for me.
I'm glad the put the Visor HUDS back in, but for some reason the F7C is one of the ship that doesn't have it working.
Edit: CIG have since marked it as a known issue
What if you used the little cargo thing to “smuggle” people, like an infiltration sort of thing
I refuse to buy this ship on principle, for many reasons. The main reason for me, though, has to do with the same issue you talk about at the beginning of your 'cons' segment. It's the fact that the Specialty VariPuck S5 center gimbal you can equip STILL DOESN'T AUTO-GIMBAL AS INTENDED, just like it didn't on any of the Mk.I's. To explain: This ship is essentially just a copy-paste of the F7A Mk.II that's been in the game for years, just with a different name, paint job, and with the nose and center ball turrets unequipped. They literally put as little time as possible into putting this ship into the PU, then charged $175 for a partially broken copy of a ship you could already buy. As for the center Specialty VariPuck S5: no matter what gun you equip to the gimbal, the gun doesn't visually turn or aim the projectiles when set to 'Auto' gimbal mode. When in 'manual' gimbal mode, the projectiles will actually aim a little, but the gun doesn't turn visually.
Now, I know a lot of you are going to say, "just use it in 'fixed' mode like your other guns should be anyways." And while yes, this is possible, though arguably it makes more sense to use all guns gimbaled for practice since they will all be gimbaled soon anyways. The other general phoned-in features of the ship, like also only having only two MFDs and disabling the helmet mounted ones among other issues, made me demand a refund on principle for the ship purchase. CIG has started to do greed-driven crap like this lately, and I'm done giving them my money when they do things like sell a broken reskin of an existing ship for $175, and don't even put in the tiniest bit of effort to fix some of the bugs inherent to the original version. It gives me Activision or EA vibes, and I refuse to support these kinds of practices.
this ship is 8 years old at this point and was only just released. it was created and then not really touched since them, it seems. I still enjoy the ship, regardless. atmospheric maneuvering requires SCM speeds and straight pitching. no strafing, no pitch + yaw. it has different tuning from any other ship. in 3.23 this will be for taking on fighters in MM, F8C will be a larger ship hitter.
Not defending CIG here but pretty sure the mk2 and F8C were "released" in not gold standard state because they're not actually new ships, both have been in SC for a while but not usable by players, all CIG really did was let players use some older ships, ideally they should have given both a gold pass before selling them. Storage on the entry menu is called "magic storage" by the community I think.
appreciate the review, was thinking about popping back in to SC to give it a try but it sounds like a lot of the issues ive had with it over time are just getting worse. Not to mention you showing dogfights with NPCs STILL lag jumping back and forth mid fight just like they were almost a year ago now. I'll tune back in when there's concrete evidence it's worth it.
Great video, thankd got the review! This is a weirdly confusing ship. The "Mk II" makes me scared that they may try selling more MkII models of ships instead of updating existing ships to gold standard. So I agree, don't buy and don't support the lazy unpolished ship.
I saw the tuning forks on the Mk 2 and I threw up a little right as the video started. They are great weapons, but they need a make over. Great advice at the end if you already own an F8C to avoid the Mk2 for now... But you know... targets are set on the F7A, Overdrive completion for that sweet CCU upgrade.
I could not agree more with you about CIG not following through with the hole Gold Standard thing on new ships what a let down But i have long said what Cig say they will give us and what they actually deliver is always two different things It will always be this way They could give two hoots about how much money or how little each backer invested in there ship packages once you click on complete transaction they have your money and thats all they care about sorry to be the barer of bad news but after playing for ten years i have learnd to just enjoy the game for what it is and how it is
I was very disappointed this is not a gold pass ship: no weapon rack or proper storage like the Gladius or components accessible, it’s just the stock mk 1 with a new body and bigger weapon hard points. Nice looking but feels like a cash grab if I’m honest.
You can not put the F7A turrets on. I tried. They fixed it so you can no longer mount the F7A turrets anymore on any hornet. :( If you already have one equipped they will stay there until the next wipe but you can not take the turrets off and put them on another hornet.
I wish they would stop putting turrets on top of the fighters. They look so goofy. Even the nose guns look so goofy and to be real about it, those mounts would seriously throw off the aerodynamics of the platform.
Two versions of the same vehicle not having some part interchangeability wouldn't really make sense so i feel like it is intentional that you can use mk1 turrets on the mk2 and if it isn't intentional they should make the f7a turrets available or add mk2 versions of the mk1 turrets
It's not the same vehicle though the Mark Two is a different ship, the successor to the ancient older F7A, they are different generations of Anvils Medium Fighter.
Fr tho, especially when every ship that has any form of significance is atleast $100, they should handle it with more care.
If they’re going to do it, do it right or don’t do it at all.
Magine a ship not being gold standard in 2024 🙃 Solid review 👌
i dont enjoy the white noise. makes it very annoying. otherwise, missing the 2 extra MFD are also the only other downside i see.
Honestly... I'm amazed you reviewed the sounds. I mean... of course you did, but also - Amazing!
Nice looking ship, but this ship was rushed out...
In the past at least it was possible to take off the chin and top turret of the F7A mk2 that the first arlingon gang member flew from the first miles mission, been told it might have been disabled, but if it still works you get 4x S3 guns using those. + 2 wing mounts. I tried to do it the other day but didn't realize on the dark side of hurston we were over the ocean, soft dead mk2 hit the drink...
Using F7A as bait, the unfinished product F7C is sold to Grab money quickly. CIG can't wait now, ever think about why?
Grab what money? You don't need any new money to get it since they didn't even offer a warbond ccu. It's just a new candy flavor for ppl who have not donated at all yet. Unlike the F8 (that not only didn't give anything for free but didn't even offer a ccu), this event gives an actual reward for participating.
To edit the missile you need to empty the whole rack first
It's pretty nasty if you have an extra 173 turret laying around to toss the 3s up top
I needed* a smaller fighter, as my main is a warden, so this fits perfect for me. Ship is crazy in atmosphere though, absolutely miserable but it tanks well enough for when the nose runs from me
I for one can't believe they have ALL THOSE ARTISTS/MARKETING EXPERTS hired and they're just selling another hornet... Like we don't have 3 already.
Great review, Really hope you find a second to answer this question 🙏.
For someone that does mostly solo pve, but is wanting to do pvp (player bounties) currently flying a scorpius with fixed size 3s. I was thinking of melting the scorpius for the hornet. They both check the style box for me.
Hornet: better guns (as a solo player) more maneuverable( mabey? ) cargo box for looting bounties.
Scorpius: more missiles, gold standard, more hull hp , 2 shield faces, and its the x wing of SC😅.
I know I can melt the scorpius and buy it back in game and have extra store credits after getting a hornet .
Which would you own ?
the ship is cool but not with them guns. fl-22 33 for the pve win
2x nn-13 (fl-11 overheat), 2x fl-22 and 2x AD4B is my best result after playing with it all day yesterday (pve only). The superhornet nose looks dumb, but 2xS1 is just more power. Full lazer loadout feels like a waste of S4 slots as it only adds about 60% extra dps, while AD4B's quadruples it (and 2xS1 + 2xS2 is more than enough to kill anything small, so you can just save the big guns for big threats (or that pesky terrapin that shows up as MRT)).
Hey, I've been enjoying your videos for quite a while, appreciate the professionalism and effort you put into them and the expertise on the subject matter. Ok, now about this Hornet Mk II. That was a pretty heart felt 10 minute rant there, basically half of the video. All of it completely true, I expect. They admitted that the Lightning came out in the spec it has because it was sitting on the shelf for years and then last year they decided they needed to make a lot of money in the third and fourth quarters, and rushed it out the door. And yes, this ship feels very similar to that. But you know, they gotta pay for that swank office building in Manchester and the hundreds of staff somehow. They've built an infrastructure that has a lot of future potential, but right now it's like the Titanic with passengers on board but no way to get out of the harbor. They're still using words like "pledge" and "support" and "reward", and excluding the words "pay" or "spend" or "product". The jury is still out, on whether they will make it out of dock at all, and whether they'll hit the iceberg or not. Only time will tell.
So, what is your final score? Is it 10/10 or less? And will you be marking it across various factors/roles? Is it cinematic? I hope my riff on your landings scorings gave you a smile
I can answer you that easy, the gold standard. Money, pure money, when do You get that cig is fucking greedy lol, they now feel the soon 4 month of nothing, No releases, No New ships sales etc, so they are low, very low on money this year.
If you tractor beam a box over the top of the ship, the grid will grab it from you.
Thank you, i was wondering if that was a thing after he said it had grav and snap working
I'm pretty sure they locked the missile rack because they dont want it to be able to carry bigger missiles that the F7A has :D
Lol being able to hide in the cargo hold is hilarious