As a BC alum, I might be a bit biased, but this is a fantastic episode! Always appreciate your insight, Phil. I admire your ability to be critical of the team's processes while seemingly remaining objective and not stooping to the level of clickbait "journalism" that some of the Boston media does just for the clicks of those who seem hell bent on complaining. You're a great follow, and I appreciate all you do. In addition, congratulations on the new addition to your roster!
Good pod again Phil! I was hoping for a Tackle in the first round, but I have also been very high on Zay- Think he would definitely give some much needed juice to this Offense. I hope they take him at #14.
I’m all in on Zay Flowers! I think it’s too risky to trade back in the first assuming he’ll still be there in the 20s… but as long as we get him round 1, and a tackle round 2, I think this will be a solid draft
Trading down would be ideal, even if Zay Flowers gets picked a couple ahead of the Patriots. The depth in the draft is mid first round thru the end of the 2nd round. It would be great to pick up an extra second round or even early third round pick.
I would very much like Zay flowers on the Patriots. KB, JUJU, Zay Flowers, Parker, Thorton, Henry & Gesicki and the running backs are great. Now we need an OT & a 3rd down passing back on offense and a taller cover corner & safety away from being real contenders. In terms of Mac Jones I am giving him a year, if he is better than his rookie season which I very much think will be the case, I think its good Now if he is like last year, then the QB needs to be looked at but what happened last year is not going to happen again this year. Unfortunatly, we do have a very hard schedual, so it might be just a win or so away from what it was last year but have a better feeling with it. The AFC east is going to be a blood bath.
19:20 ''The ability to get loose as soon as he catches the ball'' yes 100% Never seen anything like it. And I've been a student of the passing game for a long damn time.
He’s a better athlete than Addison and Reed and he’s faster than Dell… and he has a real track record of high end production in a less than ideal situation. If your talking opportunity cost and would rather Dell or Reed in the 2nd/3rd… OK. Addison has been great but the lack of juice/size is scary
They have more than enough at skill positions, but they really need a LT1 most as brown is on final year and no way the backups they signed can start and perform all year. trade up from 46 by using a 4th and next year 3rd like KC did last year
Seems like it would be a good pick because the pats need some speed. I thought they would get it when they drafted Thornton but that pick didn’t do that well last season.
I think the Patriots should try to trade down into the 1st round, add a 2nd Round pick, then pick: 1/14 OT Darnell Wright or Dawand Jones. 2/46 CB Tyrique Stevenson. 2/56 Safety Sydney Brown. 3/76 CB Darius Rush Your way 1/14 WR Zay Flowers 2/46 OT Matthew Bergeron 3/76 CB Darius Rush --I believe picking WR Zay Flowers would crowd the Patriots Slot WR position. WR Smith-Schuster and TE Gesicki both play in the slot alot. --The Offensive Line needs to be great this season to properly evaluate QB Mac Jones. I'm sorry to say this but your way is a O-line disaster. Which leads to poor WR play and Mac Jones injuries. You are a intelligent guy Phil, and I can't see why you can't see this?
Phil Perry, congrats Daddy! Reading 3 last months of Patriots Fan wishes tells me most fans want EVERYTHING IN ONE DRAFT/FREE AGENT OFF SEASON. Get real Patriots fans. It can't be done. ---OT is still the Patriots number 1 need. ---CB is the Patriots number 2 need. Double dipping on both would be wise.
People say Zay Flowers reminds them of Antonio Brown but the more film I watch on him I kinda compare him to Brandin Cooks I think that is more of a realistic comparison
This is kind of insane to me that we looking at ANOTHER slot receiver…. We need an X!!! We have like 5 slot guys right now. We also have like 5 strong safeties and no free safety…. Like what are we doing talking about flowers honestly?
My only care with our 1st round pick is that we don’t reach and pick a 3rd round talent in the 1st round again this year flowers gimme him Porter Jr yep Kincaid ok any top 3 tackles sure but not another “strange” pick please Bill!
Feel like I’m one pod we should try to ID potential “Strange” options. Guys who a) fill a need, b) seem to check a ton of boxes (as Strange did), c) have been pegged as solidly Day 2 types. Darius Rush out of South Carolina would be a bit Strange-y. Same goes for Tyler Scott at WR or Sam Laporta at TE. Need to find some small school options. Even NDSU Cody Mauch wouldn’t be viewed as the same kind of reach Strange was.
Room for Smith Schuster and Flowers. Same way there was for Edelman and Amendola. Not saying these guys are the same players. But Flowers wins in a VERY different way than JJSS. Room for several interior options. Agree it’s getting crowded in there with Gesicki
Please 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅ZAY FLOWERS! QJ is a body catcher and JSN slow. Clearly Zay can produce even with a 3rd string Freshman QB! Please Pats we have a great track record of picking BC guys who win Superbowls here
So you know we’re not getting him Bella check is going to take a guard from a division two school or trade out of the first round because practice too cheap to pay high-end money for first round picks. You know that’s what’s gonna happen so don’t even make the report
Congrats Phil with the new addition to the family, and like always, a great job with your guests. Go Pats Go
Appreciate that Mike
Congratulations Phil on the new addition to your family roster!
So glad that I found your podcast as a lifelong Pats fan.
From Vancouver, BC
Thanks so much Laura! Glad you found us too!!
As a BC alum, I might be a bit biased, but this is a fantastic episode! Always appreciate your insight, Phil. I admire your ability to be critical of the team's processes while seemingly remaining objective and not stooping to the level of clickbait "journalism" that some of the Boston media does just for the clicks of those who seem hell bent on complaining. You're a great follow, and I appreciate all you do. In addition, congratulations on the new addition to your roster!
Really appreciate the kind words, Andrew. Thank you.
Wow watching those clips. I love the looks of his attitude of wanting to get the ball into the end zone! I’d be pumped to watch him on patriots.
Same, Nick
Amen Phil!
And congratulations on your recent addition to your family Phil..
Thanks, Matte
Good pod again Phil! I was hoping for a Tackle in the first round, but I have also been very high on Zay- Think he would definitely give some much needed juice to this Offense. I hope they take him at #14.
He's learning the Patriots offense today. I still want the Pats to address OT in the first round.
I’m all in on Zay Flowers! I think it’s too risky to trade back in the first assuming he’ll still be there in the 20s… but as long as we get him round 1, and a tackle round 2, I think this will be a solid draft
Trading down would be ideal, even if Zay Flowers gets picked a couple ahead of the Patriots. The depth in the draft is mid first round thru the end of the 2nd round. It would be great to pick up an extra second round or even early third round pick.
I’m sold! I want this guy
Damn good show, hope Bill uses the first two picks wisely.
Since last year I been watching this guy he is the one I'd even grab him at one even if JSN is there 14 I'd still grab FLOWERS
He has that AB route runner/ B cooks get him plz
I would very much like Zay flowers on the Patriots. KB, JUJU, Zay Flowers, Parker, Thorton, Henry & Gesicki and the running backs are great. Now we need an OT & a 3rd down passing back on offense and a taller cover corner & safety away from being real contenders. In terms of Mac Jones I am giving him a year, if he is better than his rookie season which I very much think will be the case, I think its good Now if he is like last year, then the QB needs to be looked at but what happened last year is not going to happen again this year. Unfortunatly, we do have a very hard schedual, so it might be just a win or so away from what it was last year but have a better feeling with it. The AFC east is going to be a blood bath.
Don't forget about Marcus Jones
19:20 ''The ability to get loose as soon as he catches the ball'' yes 100%
Never seen anything like it. And I've been a student of the passing game for a long damn time.
He ain't the only one who can play like that , there is a jordan Addison, tank dell , jayden Reed
Tank Dell...go Coogs!
He’s a better athlete than Addison and Reed and he’s faster than Dell… and he has a real track record of high end production in a less than ideal situation. If your talking opportunity cost and would rather Dell or Reed in the 2nd/3rd… OK. Addison has been great but the lack of juice/size is scary
@Phil Perry make sense
They have more than enough at skill positions, but they really need a LT1 most as brown is on final year and no way the backups they signed can start and perform all year. trade up from 46 by using a 4th and next year 3rd like KC did last year
I do love Zay, but really they need OT or CB. Also, trading back probably would mean missing out on Flowers as he’s basically WR2 in the class
Slot and TE improvement will really upgrade this offense. Flowers is a start. Jackson wouldn't hurt either.
Seems like it would be a good pick because the pats need some speed. I thought they would get it when they drafted Thornton but that pick didn’t do that well last season.
I think the Patriots should try to trade down into the 1st round, add a 2nd Round pick, then pick:
1/14 OT Darnell Wright or Dawand Jones.
2/46 CB Tyrique Stevenson.
2/56 Safety Sydney Brown.
3/76 CB Darius Rush
Your way 1/14 WR Zay Flowers
2/46 OT Matthew Bergeron
3/76 CB Darius Rush
--I believe picking WR Zay Flowers would crowd the Patriots Slot WR position. WR Smith-Schuster and TE Gesicki both play in the slot alot.
--The Offensive Line needs to be great this season to properly evaluate QB Mac Jones. I'm sorry to say this but your way is a O-line disaster. Which leads to poor WR play and Mac Jones injuries. You are a intelligent guy Phil, and I can't see why you can't see this?
Are you slow or what? You're saying the Patriots should trade down from their 14 pick but you also have them picking number 14 lol you're a clown
Still need a #1 CB
FLOWERS AND ZAPPY SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
Phil Perry, congrats Daddy! Reading 3 last months of Patriots Fan wishes tells me most fans want EVERYTHING IN ONE DRAFT/FREE AGENT OFF SEASON. Get real Patriots fans. It can't be done.
---OT is still the Patriots number 1 need.
---CB is the Patriots number 2 need. Double dipping on both would be wise.
Not a bad thought. How about
1st: Jones
2nd: Brents
3rd: Rush
6th: Ojukwu
@@philperry3788 I think CB Julius Brent's is a zone only CB. That's just what I have read. I could be wrong.
No shot Flowers is there at 25 if they want him they might have to move up he’s the best receiver in this draft
WatchFlowers tape he is a willing and able blocker as well
He's a number one u need to grab him at 14 before anyone else does
What happened at 6:02 😂
The problem is they have 3 main needs that would need dealing with in the 1st 2 rounds 😂 they will take a RT and CB before any other position
People say Zay Flowers reminds them of Antonio Brown but the more film I watch on him I kinda compare him to Brandin Cooks I think that is more of a realistic comparison
I want JSN or Zay 🙏
Middle of the field 📈
Get Zay NE!
Hopefully other teams overlook him because he doesn't come from one of these mega football programs so the Patriots can snatch him up.
If they don’t go get Taylor Rapp I’m going to scream !
This offense has been middling for years. Flowers would take them to the next level.
I'm sure Bill will take someone from Montana Jr College.
I personally prefer jaxon smith njigba
At 14… I’d get it. Flowers could be a trade down option.
Man, I don't think he'll be there at 25
Congrats Phil on ur son..love ur pod cast
Appreciate it, Rob!
Zay has very good spacial awareness after he catches the ball. And very good YAC skills. BOB would make great use of this guy. Take him at 14.
Agreed, Joseph
This is kind of insane to me that we looking at ANOTHER slot receiver…. We need an X!!! We have like 5 slot guys right now. We also have like 5 strong safeties and no free safety…. Like what are we doing talking about flowers honestly?
Slot receivers and tight ends won us Super Bowls.
Tom Brady won us Super Bowls. And point being we already have a slot TE and 3 slot WR… and half of an X in devante parker
My only care with our 1st round pick is that we don’t reach and pick a 3rd round talent in the 1st round again this year flowers gimme him Porter Jr yep Kincaid ok any top 3 tackles sure but not another “strange” pick please Bill!
Feel like I’m one pod we should try to ID potential “Strange” options. Guys who a) fill a need, b) seem to check a ton of boxes (as Strange did), c) have been pegged as solidly Day 2 types. Darius Rush out of South Carolina would be a bit Strange-y. Same goes for Tyler Scott at WR or Sam Laporta at TE. Need to find some small school options. Even NDSU Cody Mauch wouldn’t be viewed as the same kind of reach Strange was.
@@philperry3788 I’d look forward to watching that one, then on draft day it would give me anxiety
Pats just signed a slot receiver and Flowers not an outside guy.
you don't know football
@@Commander_Ray way to defend your position 😆 🤣
You need more than one slot guy. Plus Zay probably has more upside if they wanna develop him a year or 2 then let JuJu walk it makes sense too
@@AJ........ or draft tank or downs in later rounds. We need an OT.
Room for Smith Schuster and Flowers. Same way there was for Edelman and Amendola. Not saying these guys are the same players. But Flowers wins in a VERY different way than JJSS. Room for several interior options. Agree it’s getting crowded in there with Gesicki
He looks just like Antonio Brown
Please 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🙏🏿 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅ZAY FLOWERS!
QJ is a body catcher and JSN slow. Clearly Zay can produce even with a 3rd string Freshman QB! Please Pats we have a great track record of picking BC guys who win Superbowls here
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So essentially another Tyquon Thornton.........Seriously?
That slot life is gone. Get some talent and air it out.
I get it. QJ early makes sense to me. But I love the idea of Flowers in the slot for BOB
Not with O’Brien calling the plays.
Who ever drafts Flowers is getting some premium offensively player with a lot of highlights..
Doubt it, Bill that Bill o Brian life collapsed in Texas. He can't seem to keep number wr, drop or moss
He's probably not strong enough.
He’s basically Antonio Brown sized. He had a pretty good career.
So you know we’re not getting him Bella check is going to take a guard from a division two school or trade out of the first round because practice too cheap to pay high-end money for first round picks. You know that’s what’s gonna happen so don’t even make the report