At 1:14 you did not explain why the angles labelled alpha are equal. The reason is that the upper alpha is the angle between the horizontal and the tangent. Since the radius is perpendicular to the tangent, we have alpha + theta = 90. The small triangle at top right is an approximation to the small dark region. The angle inside of it (indicated by alpha) is an approximation to alpha which approaches alpha as delta_theta approaches zero. This is a very nice proof and I love the channel.
The last part was a bit clunky. You didn't need to use similar triangles. Top left angle on the triangle is theta. Then it's obvious that cosθ = ∆y/∆θ just from using the smaller triangle.
This video made me want to cry, it’s so eligantly beautiful. It makes me see why so many have pursued mathematics with the passion that they have. It truly is the pathway to hope and reason.
I honestly didn't understand very well. I actually understand it more the mathematical way. I understand until 1:38, I don't know what the similarities are and what they play
The similarity of the triangles comes from them extending the initial angle THETA by a tiny amount DELTA THETA. From here you can see they're similar because both triangles are RIGHT meaning ALPHA + THETA = 90° Then they show the series of step equations that demonstrate DERIVATIVE SIN(THETA) = COS(THETA) I recommend pausing at this point and stepping through the step equations yourself and compare each step with the triangles.
@Bush Ninja You're correct, and perhaps I should've been more explicit on the condition in which the right triangle occurs but I don't think that's a reason to be rude as you were.
Agreed. The explanation begins to fall apart at 1:38. I understand what's going on, but it would be very easy for someone who is less familiar with Calculus/Trigonometry to lose the thread of the explanation. It's a good video, but the lack of commentary makes it a bit opaque at some points. Watching it multiple times is useful.
@@Kokurorokuko True, but it's enough justification to do the work to prove the proposition. For some of us, time is of the essence. Problems that can be solved have higher priority than those with little chance of resolution. We leave those problems to others who value time less.
@@Kokurorokuko Just look at the graphs of sinx and cosx real quick. www.desmos.com/calculator/excenis4e4 Look at x = 0 where sinx has its largest slope. There, cosx has a value of 1 (the slope of sinx at 0). Now look at where sinx is at its highest value, at x = pi/2. The slope at the peak is zero, and we can see that cos(pi/2) = 0. The value of the cosine function clearly represents the slope of sine at any x value.
at 2:03 the third equality holds because the ratio is equal to x/1 as theta varies, thus the limit must also be x and the last equality holds because of Pythagorean thm. Good work
Bruce Lickey you could just say cos(x) = sin(pi/2-x) and differentiate this expression by using the chain rule. But a geometric proof would still be interesting :)
hello think twice ,can you please make series and playlists on calculus and other math stuff that would help students..? thank you for the amazing videos!!
To Think Twice: I like the presentation style, but I think more careful visual explanation is necessary. I think you need to show +1s and -1s in the graph of the unit radius circle where it intersects the number lines, or it is not a unit radius circle. I think you need to show angles represented by nearby circular arcs. And I think you need to show at the beginning that all angles must be in radians only, because if they are not, then your derivation is not correct. In example, if all angles are in rotations, then I think arc length is 2 pi r delta theta, not r delta theta, and the derivative with respect to theta of sin(theta) is 2 pi cos(theta), not cos(theta). Any reply to my suggestions would be appreciated.
Seeing ur other videos, I thought by 'geometric proof', u meant a 'word less' proof. This is almost a formal proof. Idk.......... But, the animation was great, as always. Keep up the good work👊
I was surprised to see "Visual Calculus" in the title of a video not made by 3Blue1Brown. Guess I'm spoiled, but this video is pretty great too. Thank you for this!
Great video. Can you please do a series on how Hindu mathematicians dervived sine, cos, arctan and pi and tan. What was their understanding of series. This would be a wonderful series😊.
I'm so dumb I was lost at the beginning so I didn't understand what was being proved lmao this isn't my strong suit (clearly) so I was hoping to learn a little more about this side of math. I'll just stick to basic algebra 😂
someone explain me this at 0:53 what do u mean by approaching right angle triangle as \delta theta\ approaching to 0 aka the limit? if \delta theta\ = 0 then there would only be a straight line or what? its confusing me.. pls help
the curve length will approach straight line length if the curve is very small as sin x ~= x if x is very small (Radian ) you can see it also like this half cycle curve=pi ,, line =2,,, difference=1.14 quarter cycle curve=pi/2,,, line square root 2,,, difference=0.16 the difference goes to zero quickly we divide the half cycle by 2 but the difference reduce by 1.14/0.16= 7 times so the difference is convergence to zero
Can someone explain to me a similar geometric method used for proving the derivative of cosθ = -sinθ ? Using the smaller similar triangle we can define ∆cosθ as the arc length increases (or labeled ∆x in this animation) to be the triangle side opposite from θ. From there I observe that sinθ = opposite/hypotenuse = ∆cosθ/∆x = d/dx(cosθ). Is there a logic step that I am missing? Where does negative come from? Please help!!
This is a beautiful and insightful visual, but ultimately, it is not a proof. To be able to claim that the triangles are asymptotically similar, you need to actually be able to justify that the angle α is indeed preserved by the limit, and doing this requires using linearization of the curve on the point where both triangles meet, and then you need to prove that the corresponding tangent line has an angle of α with the horizontal axis. Only then can you assert that there is a triangular asymptotic similarity. The problem is proving from the linearization alone that the angle is α is not done in this video, and quite frankly, this is very difficult to do, if not impossible, unless you already know a priori that lim sin(θ)/θ (θ -> 0) = 1.
Dude, you’ll never run out of geometric proofs to do. These are awesome videos, keep up the great work.
Amazing animation ands good proof
At 1:14 you did not explain why the angles labelled alpha are equal. The reason is that the upper alpha is the angle between the horizontal and the tangent. Since the radius is perpendicular to the tangent, we have
alpha + theta = 90. The small triangle at top right is an approximation to the small dark region. The angle inside of it (indicated by alpha) is an approximation to alpha which approaches alpha as delta_theta approaches zero.
This is a very nice proof and I love the channel.
thx for telling!
It helped thank you 😊
Excellent video/proof!
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You deserve so much more subscribers, the quality of your videos is amazing!
I shared this everywhere I can. ☺
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@@TheReligiousAtheists By your logic 3b1b's video wasn't original as well. He must have learnt this from somewhere its not like he created it.
Dude! Where were you when I was in high school? Oh, wait. Where was the internet?
we also had communists in our country then :(
@bruh Typical stupid comment by a yankee-hater.
The last part was a bit clunky. You didn't need to use similar triangles. Top left angle on the triangle is theta. Then it's obvious that cosθ = ∆y/∆θ just from using the smaller triangle.
yo this is a genius comment
never thought of it this way. the proof can be simplified into an infinitesimally small right triangle
Why the top left angle is theta without using the similar triangle? I'm stucked here. Pls explain
@@kojo6492 The top left angle is 90 - alpha….and since alpha + theta = 90, top left angle is equal to theta
@@kojo6492π/2+α+θ = π
This video made me want to cry, it’s so eligantly beautiful. It makes me see why so many have pursued mathematics with the passion that they have. It truly is the pathway to hope and reason.
SO THAT'S WHY
WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?
THAT EXPLAINS SO MUCH!
GEOMETRY'S SO PRETTY THANK YOU!
Beautifully done. Proof shown visually without any talking and minimal written explanation
Seen this before in one of the 3b1b's essence of calculus episode. And it's absolutely fantastically Awesome! You deserve way more subscribers!
I honestly didn't understand very well. I actually understand it more the mathematical way. I understand until 1:38, I don't know what the similarities are and what they play
Me too, that's when I lost the proof
The similarity of the triangles comes from them extending the initial angle THETA by a tiny amount DELTA THETA. From here you can see they're similar because both triangles are RIGHT meaning
ALPHA + THETA = 90°
Then they show the series of step equations that demonstrate
DERIVATIVE SIN(THETA) = COS(THETA)
I recommend pausing at this point and stepping through the step equations yourself and compare each step with the triangles.
@Bush Ninja You're correct, and perhaps I should've been more explicit on the condition in which the right triangle occurs but I don't think that's a reason to be rude as you were.
You should first learn limit.
Agreed. The explanation begins to fall apart at 1:38. I understand what's going on, but it would be very easy for someone who is less familiar with Calculus/Trigonometry to lose the thread of the explanation. It's a good video, but the lack of commentary makes it a bit opaque at some points. Watching it multiple times is useful.
Thank you for uploading this today, I was having a hard day and this made a smile on my face.
Sweet graphics as usual!
Thanks:)
Yes, this is intuitive because the sine wave and cosine waves are 90 degrees out 0f phase.
Derivative of sin could be some function and derivative of cos could be this function 90 degrees out of phase.
intuitive doesn't mean it's proven
@@Kokurorokuko True, but it's enough justification to do the work to prove the proposition. For some of us, time is of the essence. Problems that can be solved have higher priority than those with little chance of resolution. We leave those problems to others who value time less.
@@Kokurorokuko Just look at the graphs of sinx and cosx real quick.
www.desmos.com/calculator/excenis4e4
Look at x = 0 where sinx has its largest slope. There, cosx has a value of 1 (the slope of sinx at 0).
Now look at where sinx is at its highest value, at x = pi/2. The slope at the peak is zero, and we can see that cos(pi/2) = 0.
The value of the cosine function clearly represents the slope of sine at any x value.
@@thekappachrist9540 it can be any other function with same characteristic points.
Wow, powerful!
Nice song as always, fits really well!
Nuno Mateus thanks :)
I can prove it analytical, but this is far more satisfying.
First video from you I've seen and enjoyed very much, great video! Thanks our beautiful math never stops surprising...
That was awesome, you didn't even need trig identities. Good work.
your channel is a gem
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Presentation style is so good.
Nice work.
at 2:03 the third equality holds because the ratio is equal to x/1 as theta varies, thus the limit must also be x and the last equality holds because of Pythagorean thm.
Good work
Damn, the beat drops so sick, I can't even focus on the visualisation 😂
Beautiful, thank you.
This is so interesting, the algebraic proof is easy to understand but this one is even easier
I'd love to see a follow-up of this demonstrating why the derivative of cos(x) is -sin(x).
Bruce Lickey you could just say cos(x) = sin(pi/2-x) and differentiate this expression by using the chain rule. But a geometric proof would still be interesting :)
This should be done as an exercise...?
It's simple...
note that the circle segment 'triangle' approaching a right triangle is essentially the limit as x goes to 0 of sin x / x being 1.
Your work ... leaves me without words.
I never understood that way before....thanks a lot , from Brazil 🙏
It's sad that math isn't being taught like this everywhere
Nice work man, keep it up.
hello think twice ,can you please make series and playlists on calculus and other math stuff that would help students..? thank you for the amazing videos!!
To Think Twice: I like the presentation style, but I think more careful visual explanation is necessary. I think you need to show +1s and -1s in the graph of the unit radius circle where it intersects the number lines, or it is not a unit radius circle. I think you need to show angles represented by nearby circular arcs. And I think you need to show at the beginning that all angles must be in radians only, because if they are not, then your derivation is not correct. In example, if all angles are in rotations, then I think arc length is 2 pi r delta theta, not r delta theta, and the derivative with respect to theta of sin(theta) is 2 pi cos(theta), not cos(theta). Any reply to my suggestions would be appreciated.
such a beautiful proof!!!!
Need a lot of visual calculas video for better understanding
never would've thought of this. brilliant
Seeing ur other videos, I thought by 'geometric proof', u meant a 'word less' proof. This is almost a formal proof. Idk..........
But, the animation was great, as always. Keep up the good work👊
For proving a derivative, this is about as wordless as you can get. I see what you mean though.
Awesome video, pls do more calculus!
Maybe flip the triangles to match for the similar triangle bit?
I was surprised to see "Visual Calculus" in the title of a video not made by 3Blue1Brown. Guess I'm spoiled, but this video is pretty great too. Thank you for this!
I love this kind of videos
my physics teacher did something similar, showing how cos=-sin by graphing the waves on a plot and then graphing its acceleration
Wow.. thank you for sharing this video. I admit I’m not good in Math, watching here from Australia
Congrats on the sponsorship!
Great video. Can you please do a series on how Hindu mathematicians dervived sine, cos, arctan and pi and tan. What was their understanding of series. This would be a wonderful series😊.
Beautiful proof, thank you very much
Beautiful animation
i cleared my maths paper after watching this one video. thanks ..!!!
I subscribe your channel on a single video
Because of this great presentation.
The best show! easy understand 👍
Great animations! Do you code them or do you work in a software like after effects? Hope to see more of your stuff soon!
Thanks a lot for these beautiful videos . It is different way of approaching maths . It will be more helpful if you explain along with the animation .
love your videos!
Me after hearing the starting music, yea this is what i want
excellent video, but it would be better if there is a nicer font
Have you considered speeding up the info and maybe flashy coloring? I like what you got going on here. Have fun!
How am i able to see this in TH-cam music
Well dude you did an amazing work absolutely amazed by the visualisation .Stopped playing League of Legends
Thank you:)
Awesome as always
Thank you
@@ThinkTwiceLtu pleasure
very great video because I love geometry and calculus very much and because the video is well prepared
Thank you very much!
I would like to recommend you an awesome book, Proofs without words 😉
Yoo! dope beats bro
How do you prove that as Δθ approaches zero, the dark colored regions becomes more and more like a triangle?
The deriviative of a point on a circle is always the tangent line to the radius at that point.
cool graphics. also make a video about how sinθ=tanθ can happen
Isn’t that just when cosine is 1, which is every multiple of 2pi
@@JM-us3fr then sine & tan would be 0,
Gandharv Sachdeva I’m not saying it’s false. I’m saying it’s trivial
Keep up the good work.
I'm halfway through a semester of trig and I'm so lost lmao
Awesome video! Thanks :)
I'm so dumb I was lost at the beginning so I didn't understand what was being proved lmao this isn't my strong suit (clearly) so I was hoping to learn a little more about this side of math. I'll just stick to basic algebra 😂
Besides the crappy music, this video is epic!
Good job 🔥🔥
More of these please
Thank you for this.
:)
To understand d/d theta you must know what the definition of derivative itself that is by the concept of limit.
Okay I will mug up the formula. thanks
outstanding! big thanks!
Why does the arc length equal the radius times delta of gamma?
This video help me a lot.
Amazing video!
Amazing
why the smaller triangle has the angle alpha? Please explain.
That's some death note deduction level shit. I'll take a sin derivative and PROVE IT
Thank you!
Really brillant!
Excellent!
what about the derivative of cos(θ) ?
sir
Plz. Define what is secant x. Tanx
Thank you very much for the video....
Came here for the calculus...but this a bop
someone explain me this at 0:53 what do u mean by approaching right angle triangle as \delta theta\ approaching to 0 aka the limit? if \delta theta\ = 0 then there would only be a straight line or what?
its confusing me.. pls help
the curve length will approach straight line length if the curve is very small
as
sin x ~= x
if x is very small
(Radian )
you can see it also like this
half cycle
curve=pi ,, line =2,,, difference=1.14
quarter cycle
curve=pi/2,,, line square root 2,,, difference=0.16
the difference goes to zero quickly
we divide the half cycle by 2 but the difference reduce by 1.14/0.16= 7 times
so the difference is convergence to zero
Do a collab with 3b1b!!... He did a similar/same proof for this in his video. But nonetheless keep up the good work!
How is angle alpha equal to alpha?
Amazing video
thank you
y=sin x
y + dy = sin(x+dx) = sinxcos(dx)+cos(x)sin(dx)
=sinx+cosx dx (as dx gets smaller)
sinx + dy = sinx + cosx dx
dy=cosx dx
dy/dx=cosx
Do geometric proof for the converging series that gives something with pi. The one where you multiply a buch of odd numbers!
Wow great pls make more
Why does dY/dtheta = X/1? 1:47
Dumb question. Why does alpha plus theta equal 90 degrees?
because sum of angles in triangle is 90 and we have an angle of 90 so the other two must sum to 90
Can someone explain to me a similar geometric method used for proving the derivative of cosθ = -sinθ ?
Using the smaller similar triangle we can define ∆cosθ as the arc length increases (or labeled ∆x in this animation) to be the triangle side opposite from θ. From there I observe that sinθ = opposite/hypotenuse = ∆cosθ/∆x = d/dx(cosθ). Is there a logic step that I am missing? Where does negative come from? Please help!!
Was thinking the same thing
@@josephclaro4173 I figured it out. If you have any questions lmk
@@darrenho3655 Could you explain, please?
I'm also trying to figure it out, can you please explain?
This is a beautiful and insightful visual, but ultimately, it is not a proof. To be able to claim that the triangles are asymptotically similar, you need to actually be able to justify that the angle α is indeed preserved by the limit, and doing this requires using linearization of the curve on the point where both triangles meet, and then you need to prove that the corresponding tangent line has an angle of α with the horizontal axis. Only then can you assert that there is a triangular asymptotic similarity. The problem is proving from the linearization alone that the angle is α is not done in this video, and quite frankly, this is very difficult to do, if not impossible, unless you already know a priori that lim sin(θ)/θ (θ -> 0) = 1.
How can we know both right triangles are similar?
If two angles are the same then the triangles are similar.
Brilliant! 👍😎
Visual calculus:[heroic:Succes]
unexpected de reference, damn
can anyone explain the part afte 1:26