My great grandfather was part of the Poland first armoured divison during WW2 had a baby with my scottish great grandmother. He had to go back to war but sadly didnt make it. My great granmother went to the court to state him as the father on my grandads(his son) birth ceritficate. Thats all my family has
My father was born in Poland in 1903. You are a great saleswoman, you may have just made another client. I am fairly certain my Dad was in Poland after 1920. I filled out your form. Thanks for this video. Aviva in Akko (Abby Jo Ovitsky)
@@revabbyjoovitsky5152 there is an exception for this rule if the foreign military was part of the Allied forces during WW2, but it really depends on the specific details of the case.
My Great Grandfather left in the 1930s, we can't find his Birth certificate so we feel stuck with this. Living in the UK, Brexit has been a bit motivator, but also that my partner being an EU citizen, we could have many more options. I just remember, we found his Second World war service book, it is in French but states his name with his Hometown and Surname which contains an Ł, does anyone know if this is good enough?
I'm posting 4 weeks later so not sure if you've looked into this more. I just started the Polish citizenship process last week. Even though I have my grandfather's immigration records (which is incredibly well-documented online on the official Government of Canada's website) that shows when he arrived in Canada and his age, the Polish government doesn't really care about Canadian records. I hired a company to search for my grandfather's birth certificate. There's an added layer of complexity for me because the place he was born is now part of Ukraine. I'm using the company yourrootsinpoland and so far they seem very professional. I exchanged probably a dozen emails with them concerning my case and that was before I spent a single cent. They charged me 400 USD to look for the birth certificate, but they might charge you less if your great grandfather was from modern day Poland. In my case yourrootsinpoland had to hire a firm in Ukraine that specializes in Ukrainian genealogy. I assume that added to my costs. They say my chances of finding the birth certificate is good as records are well-maintained there. If they find my birth certificate and I'm eligible to proceed, they'll charge my 1200 USD for the actual citizenship. While I can technically do all of this, I'd have to deal with the Polish and Ukrainian governments (in 2 different languages) from the other side of the world. Having that all done for me for $1600 is an absolute steal. I pay that once in my life and I have an EU passport forever. (Also check the year your ancestors naturalized in the UK. If my grandfather was a few years younger I would have been screwed. My ancestors naturalized in Canada in the 1940s. If your ancestors naturalized before 1950s, they would have lost their Polish citizenship. The only thing saving them - and your case - is something called the "military paradox". If a male was eligible for the draft, then they didn't lose their citizenship when naturalizing in another country. So if your most recent Polish ancestor naturalized before 1950 and was between 18-50 I believe when they naturalized, you are safe. If my grandfather naturalized when he was a child then the "link" would have been broken and I would not have been eligible.)
@@patrick1992 Can you give any advice where to start Patrick? My grandfather was born in Krakow in 1915, he escaped when the Nazis invaded, joined up with Sikorski in France I think, ended up stationed at Leuchars in Scotland and mum was born in 1944. I don't think he renounced his citizenship as he dearly missed Poland. I have my and mums birth certificate, and gran/grandads marriage certificate for sure but doubt his birth certificate is there (it could be in my uncles house for all I know, but he inherited it when they died as he never left home and neither of his sisters has been allowed in it since!)... I could get his death certificate easily enough I think. I have a second cousin still in contact with my mum who's over there in Krakow I really need to get the ball rolling on this as my mum isn't keeping well at 80 now. His surname was very strange - Zamora...that's more Spanish/Mexican AFAIK so not sure if this has been modified to complicate things further. I'm sure his Polish army records must be somewhere here in the UK, and he owned the most famous barbers in St Andrews, Fife "Michaels" which he passed on to a new owner who named it "The Barbers POLE" in honour of him. He cut the hair of many a famous golfer and Hollywood star visiting for the golf. I'm down there in a few days I'm going to go through all the documentation mum has then have a word with the uncle- he may have old passports, anything that could be useful!!!
Seems there was no requirement to renounce citizenship as the UK government realised many Poles had to stay to avoid going back to the nightmare of communism. As for his original birth certificate surviving that journey to the UK, impossible I'd say but he surely must have had one to be given a death certificate? (More questions for mum...!!)
@@Bazza1968oh wow that's interesting. Do you see somewhere on the papers or service books you have an PESL Number? It's 11 numbers. With that it's easiest to get other records.
My Grandfather was born in Belzec in 1913. I have my grandfather's birth certificate that was issued in 1930 because original documents were lost in WWI. His father was born in Poland in 1884. His father became a naturalized US citizen in 1923. Can I be eligible for Polish Citizenship?
Hi I came across your utube video and I’m still confused whether I can apply for Polish citizenship do you provide additional consultation or do you have any further recommendations? Thx.
Finally got all my paperwork in and waiting to hear from Polish government now. From your experience, what is the typical wait time? I was reading it will be about 9 - 15 months
If you do it through an embassy it's minimum 15 months. If you do it in Warsaw 12 months. I send the application last year about 20. August and dind hear anything so far 😂
moja babcia urodziła się w Katowicach. ale wyszła za Niemca i mieszkała w Niemczech jako obywatelka niemiecka. do dziś mam rodzinę w Polsce. jakie są moje szanse na uzyskanie polskiego obywatelstwa?
in principle, before 1951 - the citizenship of women was determined by their HUSBAND (or her father if she is unmarried, as long as he didn't lose his citizenship before she became 18). so, if she married the German before 1951 she most likely have lost the citizenship.
not if she became a citizen somewhere else before 1951 (or married a non-polish person before 1951). if she moved but DIDN'T acquire a foreign citizenship, it's possible that she is still considered a citizen.
Yes Poland like Germany and Austria has special programs for Jews. If you have some documents you should be able to get it. Search for some documents and write down the story when they lived where, where born etc.
@@patrick1992 This applies to my father himself and to his entire family as well as my mother's parents. I live in Israel now, near the Lebanon border, exploring options with no plan to leave now.
@@patrick1992 there is no special exception for jews. for example any jew that escaped the holocaust to mandatory Palestine and then got drafted to the military between 1948-1951 lost their citizenship. even if you didn't actually serve int he army but simply VISITED the drafting center - you lost your citizenship. they don't care if you're Jewish or not. Germany is the one that has a special law regarding jews (and other victims of the nazis) - whereby if you can prove that your ancestors either lost their citizenship in germany or - would have become german citizens or permanent residents if not for the nazi persecution - you could be eligible for citizenship today. for example if they had to flee Germany or if they were expelled or murdered, etc. but they still need to have had some ties to germany. e.g. a person who had Estonian ancestors who were persecuted by the Nazis is not eligible for German citizenship.
You are incredible at explaining in detail while also being direct
Thank you for watching!
My great grandfather was part of the Poland first armoured divison during WW2 had a baby with my scottish great grandmother. He had to go back to war but sadly didnt make it. My great granmother went to the court to state him as the father on my grandads(his son) birth ceritficate. Thats all my family has
My ancestors were chased out druing the Prussian deportations by Otto von Bismark, probably a little too far back.
No you could still apply I believe! Go for it
Mine too. :(
my case too
Thanks Irena and the R&D team for making more Citizenship by Descent video.
I can't wait when you guys make more CBD videos for other countries 😄
My father was born in Poland in 1903. You are a great saleswoman, you may have just made another client. I am fairly certain my Dad was in Poland after 1920. I filled out your form. Thanks for this video.
Aviva in Akko (Abby Jo Ovitsky)
Did they take your case?
my paternal great great grandparents came here in late 1800s 😢
It's also important that the Polish ancestor didn't serve in a foreign (not Polish) military before 1951
He served in US Army in 1940s, not sure when. Not in Europe, he stayed in the US.
@@revabbyjoovitsky5152
Who?
@@revabbyjoovitsky5152 there is an exception for this rule if the foreign military was part of the Allied forces during WW2, but it really depends on the specific details of the case.
My Great Grandfather left in the 1930s, we can't find his Birth certificate so we feel stuck with this. Living in the UK, Brexit has been a bit motivator, but also that my partner being an EU citizen, we could have many more options.
I just remember, we found his Second World war service book, it is in French but states his name with his Hometown and Surname which contains an Ł, does anyone know if this is good enough?
I'm posting 4 weeks later so not sure if you've looked into this more.
I just started the Polish citizenship process last week. Even though I have my grandfather's immigration records (which is incredibly well-documented online on the official Government of Canada's website) that shows when he arrived in Canada and his age, the Polish government doesn't really care about Canadian records.
I hired a company to search for my grandfather's birth certificate. There's an added layer of complexity for me because the place he was born is now part of Ukraine.
I'm using the company yourrootsinpoland and so far they seem very professional. I exchanged probably a dozen emails with them concerning my case and that was before I spent a single cent.
They charged me 400 USD to look for the birth certificate, but they might charge you less if your great grandfather was from modern day Poland. In my case yourrootsinpoland had to hire a firm in Ukraine that specializes in Ukrainian genealogy. I assume that added to my costs.
They say my chances of finding the birth certificate is good as records are well-maintained there.
If they find my birth certificate and I'm eligible to proceed, they'll charge my 1200 USD for the actual citizenship.
While I can technically do all of this, I'd have to deal with the Polish and Ukrainian governments (in 2 different languages) from the other side of the world.
Having that all done for me for $1600 is an absolute steal. I pay that once in my life and I have an EU passport forever.
(Also check the year your ancestors naturalized in the UK. If my grandfather was a few years younger I would have been screwed. My ancestors naturalized in Canada in the 1940s. If your ancestors naturalized before 1950s, they would have lost their Polish citizenship. The only thing saving them - and your case - is something called the "military paradox". If a male was eligible for the draft, then they didn't lose their citizenship when naturalizing in another country. So if your most recent Polish ancestor naturalized before 1950 and was between 18-50 I believe when they naturalized, you are safe. If my grandfather naturalized when he was a child then the "link" would have been broken and I would not have been eligible.)
You can easy get the polish both record in Poland 😂
@@patrick1992 Can you give any advice where to start Patrick? My grandfather was born in Krakow in 1915, he escaped when the Nazis invaded, joined up with Sikorski in France I think, ended up stationed at Leuchars in Scotland and mum was born in 1944. I don't think he renounced his citizenship as he dearly missed Poland. I have my and mums birth certificate, and gran/grandads marriage certificate for sure but doubt his birth certificate is there (it could be in my uncles house for all I know, but he inherited it when they died as he never left home and neither of his sisters has been allowed in it since!)... I could get his death certificate easily enough I think. I have a second cousin still in contact with my mum who's over there in Krakow I really need to get the ball rolling on this as my mum isn't keeping well at 80 now.
His surname was very strange - Zamora...that's more Spanish/Mexican AFAIK so not sure if this has been modified to complicate things further. I'm sure his Polish army records must be somewhere here in the UK, and he owned the most famous barbers in St Andrews, Fife "Michaels" which he passed on to a new owner who named it "The Barbers POLE" in honour of him. He cut the hair of many a famous golfer and Hollywood star visiting for the golf. I'm down there in a few days I'm going to go through all the documentation mum has then have a word with the uncle- he may have old passports, anything that could be useful!!!
Seems there was no requirement to renounce citizenship as the UK government realised many Poles had to stay to avoid going back to the nightmare of communism. As for his original birth certificate surviving that journey to the UK, impossible I'd say but he surely must have had one to be given a death certificate? (More questions for mum...!!)
@@Bazza1968oh wow that's interesting. Do you see somewhere on the papers or service books you have an PESL Number? It's 11 numbers. With that it's easiest to get other records.
My Grandfather was born in Belzec in 1913. I have my grandfather's birth certificate that was issued in 1930 because original documents were lost in WWI. His father was born in Poland in 1884. His father became a naturalized US citizen in 1923. Can I be eligible for Polish Citizenship?
Hi I came across your utube video and I’m still confused whether I can apply for Polish citizenship do you provide additional consultation or do you have any further recommendations? Thx.
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Finally got all my paperwork in and waiting to hear from Polish government now. From your experience, what is the typical wait time? I was reading it will be about 9 - 15 months
If you do it through an embassy it's minimum 15 months. If you do it in Warsaw 12 months. I send the application last year about 20. August and dind hear anything so far 😂
@@patrick1992 best of luck to you and i, whenever the results come may they be in our favor 💪🇵🇱
@@StayUpliftedI'm on month 15 now even I applied in Warsaw 😅
moja babcia urodziła się w Katowicach. ale wyszła za Niemca i mieszkała w Niemczech jako obywatelka niemiecka. do dziś mam rodzinę w Polsce. jakie są moje szanse na uzyskanie polskiego obywatelstwa?
Depends on the year? But it should be possible. Most probably she was a dual citizen all her life
Pretty good chances.
Same haha kommen auch aus katowice
in principle, before 1951 - the citizenship of women was determined by their HUSBAND (or her father if she is unmarried, as long as he didn't lose his citizenship before she became 18).
so, if she married the German before 1951 she most likely have lost the citizenship.
So if my great grandmother moved away before 1951 I can’t gain polish citizenship?
not if she became a citizen somewhere else before 1951 (or married a non-polish person before 1951).
if she moved but DIDN'T acquire a foreign citizenship, it's possible that she is still considered a citizen.
How about great great grandparents after 1920?
Then talk to someone who was born before 1920
My family was there in the late 19th century, but as Jews they were fleeing persecution. Does anyone know of any cases like these that were accepted?
Yes Poland like Germany and Austria has special programs for Jews. If you have some documents you should be able to get it. Search for some documents and write down the story when they lived where, where born etc.
@@patrick1992 This applies to my father himself and to his entire family as well as my mother's parents. I live in Israel now, near the Lebanon border, exploring options with no plan to leave now.
@@revabbyjoovitsky5152it is an good investment for the future. Few k Euros are nothing for an investment which can be used for generation's.
@@patrick1992 there is no special exception for jews.
for example any jew that escaped the holocaust to mandatory Palestine and then got drafted to the military between 1948-1951 lost their citizenship.
even if you didn't actually serve int he army but simply VISITED the drafting center - you lost your citizenship.
they don't care if you're Jewish or not.
Germany is the one that has a special law regarding jews (and other victims of the nazis) - whereby if you can prove that your ancestors either lost their citizenship in germany or - would have become german citizens or permanent residents if not for the nazi persecution - you could be eligible for citizenship today.
for example if they had to flee Germany or if they were expelled or murdered, etc.
but they still need to have had some ties to germany.
e.g. a person who had Estonian ancestors who were persecuted by the Nazis is not eligible for German citizenship.
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