Not just for London, supposedly Privatisation was supposed to create choice. The reality is that the only choice in terms of who runs the services are decided by government, we the passengers have no choice over how we travel from A-B by train. Local services should be devolved to the local councils, mostly for the larger cities, and the longer distance intercity services could possibly be nationalised, bring fares down to a more acceptable level. For the equivalent journey length in continental Europe, it is a third of the price that it is here
sbaker, there is often no choice anyway because often only one company can run one line. Also there's less flexibility for passengers in the system. For the best ticket prices you have to book journeys in advance, otherwise you are fleeced. Also tickets for one company are usually not valid for another company's routes and you have to follow one company's route or pay extra even if it would be quicker or better to change during the journey. Many companies have also stopped through services that used to exist and now people have to change when they didn't used to. It's all rubbish and I'm astonished at how little people here know about railways.
>For the equivalent journey length in continental Europe, it is a third of the price that it is here It actually cost mostly the same, but higher amount is payed using taxpayer money. As a frequent rail passenger from the continent I'd love to see the British system implemented here,
@@jehnsehymere6092 yes! And do it so that instead of time-based contracts every 2-3 years there's a vote on whether to keep the current operator or choose a new one.
I want to give south western railway a chance, they haven't had time to implement their ideas. If things don't improve in 5 years then I'd love my local line to be a part of the overground network
Instead of fares being increased every year we need to freeze fares for a whole Parliament, and then freeze them for another Parliament if inflation hasn't reached the level to justify another fare increase.
I can't see why people are complaining they have the option of trains people in smaller towns don't get the option they should just be happy they have trains
TfL have shown that a government body can run rail services. When the east cost was government ran it was brilliant as well, now look at it. The railways can be run by the country, we need to renationalise. It would mean better services and profits would remain in the uk, unlike now where all profit goes abroad.
The rents of the central areas of London are very high. Many prefer to work in London but live further away and use the trains daily. These kind of citizens depend totally on railway services. They use the trains unavoidably at specific hours during working days and that pushes the railway organization to its limits. I am not old enough but the privatization of the national railways was a big mistake. The competition of private companies is good but in the case of railways many people are obliged to choose specific railway lines at specific hours and private companies exploit that. After all private companies want to maximize their profit and that is not necessarily bad. Imagine if each Underground line was owned by different private companies. Some regulatory pressure by each government would be beneficial.
Yes privatisation was a mistake. The government never subsidised British rail to the extent that they are subisidising private rail companies, and even now they are bailing them out with millions of pounds over and above their contracted terms. With a national rail system there would be none of the restrictions about which routes and train companies the tickets are valid for.
The mistake made when privatisation happened was that there is no competition between companies for the same routes - all trains from A to B are the same company. If the govt allowed rival companies to compete on the same routes, rather than monopolising a section of track for a certain company, we wouldn't have this problem
The thing is though that all railway routes operated by TFL are actually operated by private companies. For example the overground is operated by Arriva.
Yes...and since Chris Grayling looks like hes gonna get the sack in the upcoming cabinet reshuffle...it might just happen since he blocked it before when Sadiq Khan and TfL asked him.
I don't think Grayling will get the sack because 1) Theresa May is awful at choosing her ministers and thinks they are good when they are not 2) She never admits to, or recognises, any failures 3) She's has a narrow majority and has lost too many ministers in her government already.
Kyle Netherwood Not to mention that tbe survey was commissioned by the Mayor of London See Yes Prime Minister for the perfect balanced survey - two surveys coming up with completely opposite conclusions (in that case about the [fictional] reintroduction of National Service)
Sooooooooooooooo ... Transport For London is meant to run train lines nowhere near London!? Why!? I live in Yorkshire and the North Yorkshire Moors Railway Steam Trains are great! But I can see the advantage of being able to use my oyster card everywhere!
Just the surburban lines into London e.g Thameslink, Southern, Southeastern, SWR, Great Northern, the Abbey Line, some Chiltern Services, Thames Valley services etc
I personally would think that London Overground should take over the suburban services in Southwest London, South London and Southeast London to help boost more services and of course new trains. Plus London Overground should also operate the West Ealing-Greenford branch line, the new proposed West London Orbital and of course the Moorgate Line from Moorgate to Hertford North. And with the extension to Barking Riverside that is to be completed this year (with yet another proposed extension to Abbey Wood) and yes London Overground should also extend the East London Line from Norwood Junction to East Croydon. As London Overground currently operates the North London Line, West London Line, East London Line and South London Line. Forming the London Overground orbital route. And London Overground operates the Euston-Watford Junction DC Line, Lea Valley Lines (Liverpool Street-Chingford, Cheshunt and Enfield Town) and the Romford-Upminster branch line in East London. Since they took over those lines back in 2015 that Greater Anglia once operated those services. And with Crossrail (Elizabeth Line) operating services to & from Shenfield and Abbey Wood to Reading, Heathrow Airport Terminals 2 & 3, Terminal 4 and Terminal 5 which should of been completed in December 2019. But it’s now scheduled for late 2021 or mid/late 2022. And Crossrail 2 also in the planning that will link from Southwest London to Northeast London and North London via Chelsea and City of London which will happen in 5-8 years time. And maybe London Overground could also operate a shuttle service from Stratford to Meridian Water.
It would be good for the suburban lines (within London and just outside) to places like Dartford to become overground lines but not thameslink, thameslink is a line of its own and goes miles away from London (to Cambridge and Brighton), as someone from 2 hours away from London we would all hate it if TFL run our trains because it would show that London is expanding and we don’t want it to expand that far. I love London but I wouldn’t want to live in it
Just take all of them into Crossrail routes. Really hope Crossrail 2 will run at 60+ tph in each direction (should be possible with double tracking). This will make easy transport links, fares that count on a lot more lines etc. It would be awesome for the Southern Crossrail 2 stations (Surbiton, Norbiton, Teddington, Kingston etc), which could get up to 15 tph with upgrade works on every branch. Raynes Lane would need a lot of work but just imagine 1 train every 4 minutes into destinations like Euston St Pancras, Clapham Junction, Victoria, Broxbourne... One line I feel really should become Crossrail 2 is Stansted Express. Trains are utter garbage, slow af, unreliable, old... They are so bad changing onto the Victoria line at Tottenham Hale gets you into Central London faster.
As a user of the Metropolitan Line and as an accountant, I laugh at the suggestion. Until they can cope with running the services already under their control, and balance the books, they should not take over any further services.
Won't stop the selfish staff going on strike though! Regardless of who is running the services they will find a reason to not work and disrupt the day of those that do want to work!
Automatic trains are in need. I agree drivers should remain, but some sections surely need to be automated. Make the staff get paid maybe 10% more at most, then just fire everyone who complains.
Trains are already automatic on the Northern, Jubilee, Central and Victoria lines, with more lines coming in about 5 years. These still have drivers, but they are more like supervisors who control the doors and make sure the train is safe to go to the next station. The train automatically calculates how long it needs to stop so as to not hold up the line but stop safely as well
The Other Companies (Thameslink, Southern, South Eastern, South Western Railways) operate far from london and then wouldn't really be TFL. Plus Delays may not always be the Companies Fault.
Crossrail will run from Reading to Shenfield, a distance over 60 miles. Reading itself is nearly 40 miles from Paddington. Bedford is only about 10 miles more than that, and Brighton is about the same, still within the commuter belt around London as well. Also, not all services operated by them will transfer, only the commuter stopping services e.g Woking, Gravesend, Aylesbury, Reading, Milton Keynes, Bedford, Stevenage, Hertford, Chelmsford, Southend etc
They probably wouldn't take over all of Southern, but will probably split it into commuter routes and express routes, which would likely mean that Govia wouldn't get either franchise anyway (the last franchise they got was the GTR one) so it would at least be a new operator
Pay and treat the staff decently that would be a start the staff are treated terribly by both management and public alike ask yourself why the staff look miserable and why if they are assaulted they have to take out a private prosecution in some cases, I once overheard a senior manager during a strike "sack the lot of them it'll be cheaper to go to industrial tribunal with them" and that's how management feel about their own staff I know I used to work for the buggers.
Not anymore ever since they've gone broke they can barely maintain the service or staff on the network. Sometime TFL rail train can be delayed by several minutes.
TfWM now have control over West Midlands suburban routes but have little authority over the local fare structure as that is still dictated by individual companies. TfL does. TfWM should get the exact powers that TfL get in order to put profits back into the network and have a more seamless integrated transit network. Currently, English law (outside of London) prevents this.
The service won’t change. Most delays are the result of network rail (gov run) Thameslink, southern, GN and Gatwick exp are all under a management contract with DfT and are unable to provide the service standard wanted by the public. I would know as I work for the largest TOC in the country. Nationalisation would not change much, and we all know this.
But this is work is for crossrail. In 2019, it will all be complete and people will be able to take a direct train to places like bond Street, Heathrow or Paddington
Kent Rail Fan because some station need to be improved for long long Crossrail Train 9 car long or 205 meters and each one is longer individually than old rolling stock PS I'm not from London, I'm from Manila, Philippines
Mau TFL Rail is future Crossrail. I don't use it much but with the amount of new infrastructure needed for Crossrail, bus replacement should be expected.
TfL Rail first of all have nearly 40 year old rolling stock (which is already being solved by new trains) and have to deal with engineering works by Network Rail fro Crossrail construction
Nothing so stop TfL staff from going on strike, today 2nd July 2018, lack of their trains out of Paddington-T4 due to a shortage of trains, so not fit and proper service.
Nothing to stop a fleet wide failure even under TfL, however there are other improvements that they've provided like permanent staffing for stations and oyster travel in places that haven't had it before.
Problem is that the mayor of London controls tfl and because I live out of London I can't vote for him even though he controls my journey every single day
Because TfL owns little railway, they can concentrate just on that and not loads of things. If TfL owned more railway, they will neglect some parts of the railway and possibly make the service worse. It will be British Rail v2 where some of the railways will be neglected because companies own too much. Additionally, I don't know how TfL can help with track problems, which is Network Rail's fault (an already nationalised service) which is basically the government's fault that the service is bad.
Since when is the overground good? It's called the overpriced for a reason. Trains are slow and inefficient. There cancelled for being seconds late and yet you think tfl can run anything other than a metro style service. They couldn't even run Express services on the Met and there meant to run HS1??????
Speak to the users of TfL Rail. When things were broken in the days of Greater Anglia, they'd do what they could to run a limited service. When things break in the days of TfL rail, they just outright suspend it without any attempt to even run a service. TfL Rail is not the golden ticket it is claimed to be.
Ah. I see the government is being successful in a "divide and rule" strategy. Get unhappy travellers to attack each other and the government gets off scot free. Well done.
You only remember the good things and not the bad under br, during that time the entire network was run down on purpose, thousands of stations and lines were closed, the trains were less safe and there were way more accidents
Not so. There are rail unions in other European countries which have efficient and effective services. It's more that public money is being sucked up into private companies and going to shareholders when it could be spent on services.
TFL staff are on strike every other week. The Crossrail drivers have already called for strike action and it is still months away from starting service. The problems are always the same. Greed, and the Unions. The salaries train drivers get is ridiculous. £60,000 simply to push the “go” button. Time to start seriously looking at automating the entire system and stop being the victim of blackmail. . .
TfL staff are rarely on strike, in fact much less than the likes of Southern, South Western Railway and Thameslink. No strike action has been called by Crossrail drivers, and even then they do already operate between Liverpool Street and Shenfield. Train drivers also don't just push a button, there's a lot of skill, like driving a car but with faster response times and great route knowledge, it's more like being a taxi driver but for 1000+ people
@@Mgameing123 its a few lines of code for the computer. The new Bakerloo line will be full ATO. And the unions will have a melt down of their own creation.
The big issue with the fall of British Rail was that the solution was to "privatize" but in reality no problems were solved. It's the same service as before but with a new sticker. Nothing changed. The issue is that there should be a balance of government oversight and private operation for any rail system, but it is STILL a socialist system. Europe is too socialist. How about NO government control? Free yourselves, it's not like the Queen would oppose. It's the stupid socialist British government that thinks they need to protect and control the people. No wonder we revolted: y'all are living in the 10th century. Amtrak has its own problems, but it's different. The fall of PRR and the New Haven resulted in a tax subsidized corporation that work fine only if there is huge ridership... so low ridership as with the U.S. Should be further controlled by subsidized operations. As ridership increases, which it needs to for us, the government can let go. But ridership in whatever's left after Brexit is huge. SO LET GO OF THE GOVERNMENT CONTOL! Follow the leader, we have... well... Trump is our president, maybe just appreciate our system.
Yes. I'm generally in favour of free market solutions. But TfL have proven that their operating model is just better than National Rail.
Not just for London, supposedly Privatisation was supposed to create choice. The reality is that the only choice in terms of who runs the services are decided by government, we the passengers have no choice over how we travel from A-B by train. Local services should be devolved to the local councils, mostly for the larger cities, and the longer distance intercity services could possibly be nationalised, bring fares down to a more acceptable level. For the equivalent journey length in continental Europe, it is a third of the price that it is here
Well said and couldn't of said it better.
We should get to vote on who gets the local franchise...
sbaker, there is often no choice anyway because often only one company can run one line. Also there's less flexibility for passengers in the system. For the best ticket prices you have to book journeys in advance, otherwise you are fleeced. Also tickets for one company are usually not valid for another company's routes and you have to follow one company's route or pay extra even if it would be quicker or better to change during the journey. Many companies have also stopped through services that used to exist and now people have to change when they didn't used to. It's all rubbish and I'm astonished at how little people here know about railways.
>For the equivalent journey length in continental Europe, it is a third of the price that it is here
It actually cost mostly the same, but higher amount is payed using taxpayer money. As a frequent rail passenger from the continent I'd love to see the British system implemented here,
@@jehnsehymere6092 yes! And do it so that instead of time-based contracts every 2-3 years there's a vote on whether to keep the current operator or choose a new one.
YES -bring them (london) back into public control. London will set the bar, giving the rest of the UK more reason to follow.
Public control or government bureaucratic "setting the price of bread" kind of control?
Why would it be better?
@@WalterKhayyam have you seen the difference between southern and london overground?
@@calldfwp2230 I have noticed a difference. Have you noticed/are aware of the difference between UK train services and Japanese train services?
@@WalterKhayyam yes I am, the Japanese companies are much better.
TfL should take over
I want to give south western railway a chance, they haven't had time to implement their ideas. If things don't improve in 5 years then I'd love my local line to be a part of the overground network
2 years later and it's looking likely that they won't last for 5 years.
@@SouthLondonRailwayPhotography their current franchise has been shortened to 2024 so five years from now they hopefully won't be here.
5 years later, nothing has changed lol
Instead of fares being increased every year we need to freeze fares for a whole Parliament, and then freeze them for another Parliament if inflation hasn't reached the level to justify another fare increase.
I can't see why people are complaining they have the option of trains people in smaller towns don't get the option they should just be happy they have trains
Trains are built precisely because large populations need them to function.
TfL have shown that a government body can run rail services. When the east cost was government ran it was brilliant as well, now look at it. The railways can be run by the country, we need to renationalise. It would mean better services and profits would remain in the uk, unlike now where all profit goes abroad.
Privatisation wins and there’s nothing you can do about it 😁
The rents of the central areas of London are very high. Many prefer to work in London but live further away and use the trains daily. These kind of citizens depend totally on railway services. They use the trains unavoidably at specific hours during working days and that pushes the railway organization to its limits.
I am not old enough but the privatization of the national railways was a big mistake. The competition of private companies is good but in the case of railways many people are obliged to choose specific railway lines at specific hours and private companies exploit that. After all private companies want to maximize their profit and that is not necessarily bad.
Imagine if each Underground line was owned by different private companies.
Some regulatory pressure by each government would be beneficial.
Achilleas Labrou the amount of money some people spend on travel is ridiculous
Nadim Chowdhury It is ridiculously high or low?
Achilleas Labrou high
Yes privatisation was a mistake. The government never subsidised British rail to the extent that they are subisidising private rail companies, and even now they are bailing them out with millions of pounds over and above their contracted terms. With a national rail system there would be none of the restrictions about which routes and train companies the tickets are valid for.
The mistake made when privatisation happened was that there is no competition between companies for the same routes - all trains from A to B are the same company. If the govt allowed rival companies to compete on the same routes, rather than monopolising a section of track for a certain company, we wouldn't have this problem
TFL should just buy Govia Thameslink Railway at this point, fire all the of the HR then they gain control of those lines.
The thing is though that all railway routes operated by TFL are actually operated by private companies. For example the overground is operated by Arriva.
Yes...and since Chris Grayling looks like hes gonna get the sack in the upcoming cabinet reshuffle...it might just happen since he blocked it before when Sadiq Khan and TfL asked him.
Mason Joseph we can Chris Grayling and DfT position is going to Geoff Marshall
Airplane Plus Train Guy lol
Mason Joseph but we can
I don't think Grayling will get the sack because 1) Theresa May is awful at choosing her ministers and thinks they are good when they are not 2) She never admits to, or recognises, any failures 3) She's has a narrow majority and has lost too many ministers in her government already.
@@airplaneplustrainguy8143 I think he'd actually do quite a good job.
1000 people is not much
Kyle Netherwood Not to mention that tbe survey was commissioned by the Mayor of London
See Yes Prime Minister for the perfect balanced survey - two surveys coming up with completely opposite conclusions (in that case about the [fictional] reintroduction of National Service)
Sooooooooooooooo ... Transport For London is meant to run train lines nowhere near London!? Why!? I live in Yorkshire and the North Yorkshire Moors Railway Steam Trains are great! But I can see the advantage of being able to use my oyster card everywhere!
Just the surburban lines into London e.g Thameslink, Southern, Southeastern, SWR, Great Northern, the Abbey Line, some Chiltern Services, Thames Valley services etc
The overground at gospel oak was terrible .I have to wait for 20minutes because my mom made me miss our 1st train
I personally would think that London Overground should take over the suburban services in Southwest London, South London and Southeast London to help boost more services and of course new trains. Plus London Overground should also operate the West Ealing-Greenford branch line, the new proposed West London Orbital and of course the Moorgate Line from Moorgate to Hertford North. And with the extension to Barking Riverside that is to be completed this year (with yet another proposed extension to Abbey Wood) and yes London Overground should also extend the East London Line from Norwood Junction to East Croydon.
As London Overground currently operates the North London Line, West London Line, East London Line and South London Line. Forming the London Overground orbital route. And London Overground operates the Euston-Watford Junction DC Line, Lea Valley Lines (Liverpool Street-Chingford, Cheshunt and Enfield Town) and the Romford-Upminster branch line in East London. Since they took over those lines back in 2015 that Greater Anglia once operated those services.
And with Crossrail (Elizabeth Line) operating services to & from Shenfield and Abbey Wood to Reading, Heathrow Airport Terminals 2 & 3, Terminal 4 and Terminal 5 which should of been completed in December 2019. But it’s now scheduled for late 2021 or mid/late 2022. And Crossrail 2 also in the planning that will link from Southwest London to Northeast London and North London via Chelsea and City of London which will happen in 5-8 years time. And maybe London Overground could also operate a shuttle service from Stratford to Meridian Water.
It would be good for the suburban lines (within London and just outside) to places like Dartford to become overground lines but not thameslink, thameslink is a line of its own and goes miles away from London (to Cambridge and Brighton), as someone from 2 hours away from London we would all hate it if TFL run our trains because it would show that London is expanding and we don’t want it to expand that far. I love London but I wouldn’t want to live in it
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YESSSSSS. I WANT BETTER SERVICES ON SOUTH WESTERN. I AM FED UP OF TAKING THE BUS TO RICHMOND, TYEN USE THE DISTRICT LINE. I WANT TFL.
Just take all of them into Crossrail routes. Really hope Crossrail 2 will run at 60+ tph in each direction (should be possible with double tracking). This will make easy transport links, fares that count on a lot more lines etc.
It would be awesome for the Southern Crossrail 2 stations (Surbiton, Norbiton, Teddington, Kingston etc), which could get up to 15 tph with upgrade works on every branch. Raynes Lane would need a lot of work but just imagine 1 train every 4 minutes into destinations like Euston St Pancras, Clapham Junction, Victoria, Broxbourne...
One line I feel really should become Crossrail 2 is Stansted Express. Trains are utter garbage, slow af, unreliable, old... They are so bad changing onto the Victoria line at Tottenham Hale gets you into Central London faster.
As a user of the Metropolitan Line and as an accountant, I laugh at the suggestion. Until they can cope with running the services already under their control, and balance the books, they should not take over any further services.
someone one wrote in a magazine to say that Londoners who live on National Rail lines are much worst off than those who live on tube lines.
That’s basically what BR used to do. But it is very hard.
Won't stop the selfish staff going on strike though! Regardless of who is running the services they will find a reason to not work and disrupt the day of those that do want to work!
Automatic trains are in need. I agree drivers should remain, but some sections surely need to be automated. Make the staff get paid maybe 10% more at most, then just fire everyone who complains.
Trains are already automatic on the Northern, Jubilee, Central and Victoria lines, with more lines coming in about 5 years. These still have drivers, but they are more like supervisors who control the doors and make sure the train is safe to go to the next station. The train automatically calculates how long it needs to stop so as to not hold up the line but stop safely as well
*YES*
The Other Companies (Thameslink, Southern, South Eastern, South Western Railways) operate far from london and then wouldn't really be TFL. Plus Delays may not always be the Companies Fault.
Crossrail will run from Reading to Shenfield, a distance over 60 miles. Reading itself is nearly 40 miles from Paddington. Bedford is only about 10 miles more than that, and Brighton is about the same, still within the commuter belt around London as well. Also, not all services operated by them will transfer, only the commuter stopping services e.g Woking, Gravesend, Aylesbury, Reading, Milton Keynes, Bedford, Stevenage, Hertford, Chelmsford, Southend etc
Alasdair Clift there is that. But In my opinion Reading is a bit far from london to be operated Constantly by TFL. But I see why people think that.
Express services will still be operated by GWR but local stopping services will be part of Crossrail from December 2019
Alasdair Clift Yes. Although a good one for TFL to take over first is Southern.
They probably wouldn't take over all of Southern, but will probably split it into commuter routes and express routes, which would likely mean that Govia wouldn't get either franchise anyway (the last franchise they got was the GTR one) so it would at least be a new operator
Pay and treat the staff decently that would be a start the staff are treated terribly by both management and public alike ask yourself why the staff look miserable and why if they are assaulted they have to take out a private prosecution in some cases, I once overheard a senior manager during a strike "sack the lot of them it'll be cheaper to go to industrial tribunal with them" and that's how management feel about their own staff I know I used to work for the buggers.
Not anymore ever since they've gone broke they can barely maintain the service or staff on the network. Sometime TFL rail train can be delayed by several minutes.
I believe that Crossrail should run more independently or by another company.
Sounds like a power grab by the mayor.
TfWM now have control over West Midlands suburban routes but have little authority over the local fare structure as that is still dictated by individual companies. TfL does. TfWM should get the exact powers that TfL get in order to put profits back into the network and have a more seamless integrated transit network.
Currently, English law (outside of London) prevents this.
yes!!!! and please bring zonal fare system to the rail services!!!!
Isn’t the overground run by a foreign owners?
Where are subtitles?
The service won’t change. Most delays are the result of network rail (gov run)
Thameslink, southern, GN and Gatwick exp are all under a management contract with DfT and are unable to provide the service standard wanted by the public.
I would know as I work for the largest TOC in the country.
Nationalisation would not change much, and we all know this.
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South eastern is perfect I ride it everyday and ive never ever had a delayed or cancelled train. Even in the snow
That's not true. That's BS
How about now?
As Transport for London heads for £1bn operational deficit, politicians managing London's train network does not encourage confidence!
Please nationalize the Railways!
No
But then you look at TFL Rail - always delays and mostly bus replacement
Kent Rail Fan I agree. It was better under national express !
But this is work is for crossrail. In 2019, it will all be complete and people will be able to take a direct train to places like bond Street, Heathrow or Paddington
Kent Rail Fan because some station need to be improved for long long Crossrail Train
9 car long or 205 meters and each one is longer individually than old rolling stock
PS I'm not from London, I'm from Manila, Philippines
Mau TFL Rail is future Crossrail. I don't use it much but with the amount of new infrastructure needed for Crossrail, bus replacement should be expected.
TfL Rail first of all have nearly 40 year old rolling stock (which is already being solved by new trains) and have to deal with engineering works by Network Rail fro Crossrail construction
why are they complaining, they should come to north america and try using trains here
Nothing so stop TfL staff from going on strike, today 2nd July 2018, lack of their trains out of Paddington-T4 due to a shortage of trains, so not fit and proper service.
Nothing to stop a fleet wide failure even under TfL, however there are other improvements that they've provided like permanent staffing for stations and oyster travel in places that haven't had it before.
Problem is that the mayor of London controls tfl and because I live out of London I can't vote for him even though he controls my journey every single day
A why as a non reason.
Because TfL owns little railway, they can concentrate just on that and not loads of things. If TfL owned more railway, they will neglect some parts of the railway and possibly make the service worse. It will be British Rail v2 where some of the railways will be neglected because companies own too much. Additionally, I don't know how TfL can help with track problems, which is Network Rail's fault (an already nationalised service) which is basically the government's fault that the service is bad.
No
Since when is the overground good? It's called the overpriced for a reason. Trains are slow and inefficient. There cancelled for being seconds late and yet you think tfl can run anything other than a metro style service. They couldn't even run Express services on the Met and there meant to run HS1??????
Dont do it
I think they should....
Speak to the users of TfL Rail. When things were broken in the days of Greater Anglia, they'd do what they could to run a limited service. When things break in the days of TfL rail, they just outright suspend it without any attempt to even run a service.
TfL Rail is not the golden ticket it is claimed to be.
David M The class 345s were a failure honestly. No toilets, No USB cables, Rock Hard Seats and Bad Announcements.
@@dx_ream9277 You would not use the Elizabeth line for that long.
BCC London how much speed do TFL rail goes
YES YES YES!
C2c should take over Greater Anglia
Maybe on the Southend Victoria Line but I don’t think it would happen.
Fares based on income
I don't care. Londoners should stop moaning, they get all the transport investment whilst most of the rest of the country rots.
Ah. I see the government is being successful in a "divide and rule" strategy. Get unhappy travellers to attack each other and the government gets off scot free. Well done.
British Rail should come back.
You only remember the good things and not the bad under br, during that time the entire network was run down on purpose, thousands of stations and lines were closed, the trains were less safe and there were way more accidents
I love other rail company’s but tfl is good
Basically union are in the way of good services.
Not so. There are rail unions in other European countries which have efficient and effective services. It's more that public money is being sucked up into private companies and going to shareholders when it could be spent on services.
People seem to forget how bad British Rail got near the end... privatisation improved the services massively.
Thats just the government not bothering to fund it because "cars were the future".
TFL staff are on strike every other week. The Crossrail drivers have already called for strike action and it is still months away from starting service. The problems are always the same. Greed, and the Unions. The salaries train drivers get is ridiculous. £60,000 simply to push the “go” button. Time to start seriously looking at automating the entire system and stop being the victim of blackmail. . .
TfL staff are rarely on strike, in fact much less than the likes of Southern, South Western Railway and Thameslink. No strike action has been called by Crossrail drivers, and even then they do already operate between Liverpool Street and Shenfield. Train drivers also don't just push a button, there's a lot of skill, like driving a car but with faster response times and great route knowledge, it's more like being a taxi driver but for 1000+ people
Its alot more than just 1 button. Driving a train is much harder than you think.
@@Mgameing123 its a few lines of code for the computer. The new Bakerloo line will be full ATO. And the unions will have a melt down of their own creation.
@@davidwebb4904 I don't blame the unions for striking. Inflation is skyrocketing.
@@Mgameing123 Unions have been calling strikes, for decades. Including when a Central Line driver was suspended, FOR FAILING A DRUG TEST.
Plz ur ruining my dreams
Dont do it
Pedestrianise the railway. It would reduce congestion and air pollution.
What, by putting all that traffic back on the roads?
The big issue with the fall of British Rail was that the solution was to "privatize" but in reality no problems were solved. It's the same service as before but with a new sticker. Nothing changed. The issue is that there should be a balance of government oversight and private operation for any rail system, but it is STILL a socialist system. Europe is too socialist. How about NO government control? Free yourselves, it's not like the Queen would oppose. It's the stupid socialist British government that thinks they need to protect and control the people.
No wonder we revolted: y'all are living in the 10th century.
Amtrak has its own problems, but it's different. The fall of PRR and the New Haven resulted in a tax subsidized corporation that work fine only if there is huge ridership... so low ridership as with the U.S. Should be further controlled by subsidized operations. As ridership increases, which it needs to for us, the government can let go.
But ridership in whatever's left after Brexit is huge. SO LET GO OF THE GOVERNMENT CONTOL! Follow the leader, we have... well... Trump is our president, maybe just appreciate our system.
The socialist British government? The Conservatives? Uhuh.
I think a better question would be WHEN THE BLOODY HELL ARE WE GOING TO OUTLAW TRADE UNIONS SO PEOPLE GET OFF THEIR BLODDY ARSES AND DRIVE MY TRAIN?
Never because that would be a serious violation of workers rights.