Great review, quick and to the point. Not sure if it exists on the jacket, but suprised they don't have a pass holder on the bottom waist of the sabre jacket considering how many resorts now use RFID cards for the lifts.
Thanks, this was a great comparison. I like how you had them side-by-side when wearing them, and pointing out the key differences. Is the flannel liner extend all the way down the sleeves on the Sabre? Sounds like the Sabre has a bit trimmer fit on the waist, but maybe not enough to make much of a difference, unless I guess you had a puffy on. Finally are they approximately the same length? I could not tell in the video. Again, thanks for a very informative, concise video!
Could you please do a review on the Arc'teryx bib pants you have? And will you be doing a review on the Beta SV jacket? Thanks heaps and love your work man!
Yea I could do a review. They no longer sell the ones I have so I don’t now how useful it would be. Maybe a general review of bib pants would be more useful. Beta sv will be soon
What are you wearing for a mid layer? I’m 6’1 185-190lbs and I thought the rush and sabre were huge in Large while wearing a T-shirt with a normal fleece when I tried them on.
Yea they would be to big with just a T-shirt and fleece. I wear a base layer, a fleece, and an insulated mid layer. Sometimes In the extreme cold ill add another fleece too.
Where can I find the Arcteryx jackets and also the Lofoten for 20/30% off ?? (I was just about to ask how these two jackets compare to the Beta AR and the Lofoten, and then you explained everything, Great video man)
Hello, just a question. I have Beta Ar jacket and have it in size M. On the Arcteryx website the sizing chart is the same for Beta AR and Rush. I just want you to confirm, if i use medium in Beta Ar, then i also should pick Medium for Rush Jacket? I am 186 cm and 84 kg, and medium Beta Ar fit very good. Large was way to big for me.
It depends. Do you have room in your Beta AR to layer a puffy underneath? If it can't fit, then I might consider going to a large in the Rush so you have space to layer under for skiiing.
Where do you find them 20% off? I can't find anything arcteryx-related discounted and I am from Canada as well. Tried Sporting life and Mec with no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hey, have you got any full body pictures in the Rush? I'm 185cm 80kg so long and thin, tossing up L vs XL for a new ski jacket. Hate when jackets run short but also don't want something crazy baggy. Thanks! good video.
Great review. Curious as to how you feel the fit of the Rush compares to the Lofoten? I’ve had a Rush XXL for several years but need an XL now. Was also considering the Lofoten and a Stio shells. Thanks
For anyone playing in the BC i think pit zips are one of the most important features of a jacket. Everyone I know slides their arms through those slots to hold on to their poles during ascent. Best feature ever invented for touring/hiking back country imo. Not sure why you would ignore this feature but it looks like the rush has no pit zips which for me = deal breaker. Looks like the Sabre does have pit zips so its an option but I'm not a fan of the separate hood style I like the seamless hood for fit and looks. I snagged the Alpha SV two seasons ago and been loving it.
Please explain how one would slide their arms through the pit zip slots to hold on to their poles? 😂 Makes no sense and I’ve never ever seen anyone do that.
@@PowFairways Ok take notes, you unzip the pits, then you slide your arms out the sleeves to inside the jacket, then you slip your arms through the pit zip holes, grab your poles and continue hiking with your sleeves dangling off the side of your arms. I usually have my front zip like halfway down too. It's kind of like removing a layer with out removing a layer. You get cold, take out your notes and follow them in reverse. Also make sure to let go of your poles first as it may complicate the process trying to hold them at the same time. Give it a try, you can thank me later:) Works pedaling up hills too.
This has nothing to do with Arcteryx but could you recomend a resort ski jacket that's under $500 (max ~$400 with 20/30% discount applied). I'm really just looking for a jacket that I'm gonna be wearing while learning and progressing on skis. The winter is pretty warm where I am, it almost never gets less than 25/30 F (-5/0 Celsius). And when it does I'm usually not going cause of bad visibility. Also I don't even really need a mid layer since i'd be sweating in these temperatures. Currently found a The North Face Descendit Men's jacket but its only $170 (45% off tho) and I don't think a good ski jacket would cost this low even with a 45% OFF. And I'm dissapointed so many people say TNF is garbage now (unless their expensive summit series). Also it's insulated, but I got told to look for something without insulation, and get a mid layer instead. You think getting an insulated jacket but without mid layer is fine for those temperatures?
That jacket would be fine for most people to start skiing, so don’t worry what other people are saying. I used to ski in a north face jacket as well and it was totally fine. You could go for the north face Triclimate. The insulation is removable incase it’s a warm day
I destroyed my rush jacket in 3 seasons (180 days total/60 days per season): split seams & pack abrasion. Warranty granted me purchase price toward any product & I got the alpha & 5 years still functioning well. The warranty is "practical life of garment" which is entirely at their discretion, so I felt rather lucky to get full price product credit. The solid back fabric on the alpha with no seams plus the heavier denier nylon makes all the difference. The alpha is a climbing jacket so the arms are cut for overhead ice & rock climbing, & the Napoleon pockets are designed for harness use.
Bro can you help me choose a jacket? I want to buy a hard shell jacket for a mix of everyday use while on rainy / snowy or colder climates but also use it for snowboarding so to have some breathability to it as well. What would you recommend? Any of these Arc’teryx jackets or the Noronna T?
@@danieloflaherty2154 Personally, at this point I'd go for the Norrona trollveggen Gore-Tex Pro Jacket. When I buy another one this is what I would get as my only hard shell. Other than that, the Beta SV would be my second option. This is assuming you are fine with the cost. Also keep in mind the Norrona is long. Good for skiing but if you're on the shorter side it may be too long. I personally like the length.
thats not really a fleece, as a fleece would be a material with a long pile length fabric it's just a lining for the jacket. It also has nothing to do with how warm the jacket is, as the protection, and breathability comes down to the outer shell and the Gore-Tex is in the middle of the 3 layers. The gore tex membrane is what gives the jackets the breathability, and waterproofing/protection
Do you think you could review the new Sabre SV? I just bought it, and it retails for $900. Im going to be skiing in whistler next year, so I pulled the trigger on the SV because apparently it’s much more protected from the elements then the standard Sabre.
This review is now old. Rush has no skirt. Fit has changed. Large is notnathletic cut and has very long sleeves. Am 6'2" and fit. With underlayer on, jacket was ok at shoulders, sleeves ended at fingers and waist was 3 inches wider than my insulated jacket. So not good fit if you are not overweight.
i just curious about how annoying the sabre snow skirt is ? The other choice is Beta lt, and the sabre AR is on sale now. These two price are only more USD$30 than the other. Hard to choose...
If you will be using it as a rain shell when there is no snow, I would go Beta LT. The snow skirt will be annoying unless you are actually using to for snow.
@@oskarcaning9521 it's generally good for when its when its raining, at first the material is quite loud and crinkly but it seems alright after a few months and the length is good for stormy days. The powder skirt on the jacket you don't really notice after a while
Good in-depth review, I might have missed the pit zips mention but always good to include
Yea i did forget to mention pit zips
Anyone who Pays 800$ for Stupid Shell Jacket made in China is an A Moron ! Any Shell With Goretex over 500 is a Rip off !
Great review, quick and to the point. Not sure if it exists on the jacket, but suprised they don't have a pass holder on the bottom waist of the sabre jacket considering how many resorts now use RFID cards for the lifts.
Note that 2024 model of Rush has an additional chest pocket and no snow skirt. That makes more versatile than the 2023 model.
Found a lot of Arc'teryx stuff for way cheap on shop. Picked up the sabre for a hundred bucks.
Sweet deal!
Thanks, this was a great comparison. I like how you had them side-by-side when wearing them, and pointing out the key differences. Is the flannel liner extend all the way down the sleeves on the Sabre? Sounds like the Sabre has a bit trimmer fit on the waist, but maybe not enough to make much of a difference, unless I guess you had a puffy on. Finally are they approximately the same length? I could not tell in the video. Again, thanks for a very informative, concise video!
Could you please do a review on the Arc'teryx bib pants you have? And will you be doing a review on the Beta SV jacket? Thanks heaps and love your work man!
Yea I could do a review. They no longer sell the ones I have so I don’t now how useful it would be. Maybe a general review of bib pants would be more useful. Beta sv will be soon
What are you wearing for a mid layer? I’m 6’1 185-190lbs and I thought the rush and sabre were huge in Large while wearing a T-shirt with a normal fleece when I tried them on.
Yea they would be to big with just a T-shirt and fleece. I wear a base layer, a fleece, and an insulated mid layer. Sometimes In the extreme cold ill add another fleece too.
Where can I find the Arcteryx jackets and also the Lofoten for 20/30% off ??
(I was just about to ask how these two jackets compare to the Beta AR and the Lofoten, and then you explained everything, Great video man)
My local sporting store had them on sale. Depends what country you live in. For the Lofoten, I got it 30% a couple months ago.
Hello, just a question. I have Beta Ar jacket and have it in size M. On the Arcteryx website the sizing chart is the same for Beta AR and Rush. I just want you to confirm, if i use medium in Beta Ar, then i also should pick Medium for Rush Jacket? I am 186 cm and 84 kg, and medium Beta Ar fit very good. Large was way to big for me.
It depends. Do you have room in your Beta AR to layer a puffy underneath? If it can't fit, then I might consider going to a large in the Rush so you have space to layer under for skiiing.
I just bought the same colorway rush jacket on the re-gear arc'teryx site for hundreds in savings...lets hope it's not too scratched up 😂
How’d you find the jacket from re-gear?
Where do you find them 20% off? I can't find anything arcteryx-related discounted and I am from Canada as well. Tried Sporting life and Mec with no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
They were on sale at Bushtakah and Trail Head Paddle Shack in store. Not sure if it's still on sale.
Hey, have you got any full body pictures in the Rush? I'm 185cm 80kg so long and thin, tossing up L vs XL for a new ski jacket. Hate when jackets run short but also don't want something crazy baggy. Thanks! good video.
I would recommend a large. The XL will have way too much room. We are pretty much the same body type. The length will be fine.
Great review. Curious as to how you feel the fit of the Rush compares to the Lofoten? I’ve had a Rush XXL for several years but need an XL now. Was also considering the Lofoten and a Stio shells. Thanks
norrona has a better warranty but the lofoten has no hand pockets, i just wish they had more colors
For anyone playing in the BC i think pit zips are one of the most important features of a jacket. Everyone I know slides their arms through those slots to hold on to their poles during ascent. Best feature ever invented for touring/hiking back country imo. Not sure why you would ignore this feature but it looks like the rush has no pit zips which for me = deal breaker. Looks like the Sabre does have pit zips so its an option but I'm not a fan of the separate hood style I like the seamless hood for fit and looks. I snagged the Alpha SV two seasons ago and been loving it.
Rush has pitzips you can see them
Please explain how one would slide their arms through the pit zip slots to hold on to their poles? 😂 Makes no sense and I’ve never ever seen anyone do that.
Also both the Rush and the Sabre jackets have the same storm hood.
@@PowFairways Ok take notes, you unzip the pits, then you slide your arms out the sleeves to inside the jacket, then you slip your arms through the pit zip holes, grab your poles and continue hiking with your sleeves dangling off the side of your arms. I usually have my front zip like halfway down too. It's kind of like removing a layer with out removing a layer. You get cold, take out your notes and follow them in reverse. Also make sure to let go of your poles first as it may complicate the process trying to hold them at the same time. Give it a try, you can thank me later:) Works pedaling up hills too.
@@outlastproductions Ahh! Thanks for the explanation! I’ve never seen it done before and now I’ve gotta try it!
Hi! Do you recommend a rush jacket for 490€ or the Lofoten anorak for 450€ I want a versatile option to ski and to go to city
hi there, I am 187 cm and 88 kg, just ordered L size. Broad shoulders. Did I made mistake with sizing and should go up to XL instead
?
I think the large will fit you well
@@WillFaulkner just arrived, perfect fit. thanks mate
@@WillFaulknerI'm 95 kg and 193cm. Do you think I need an XL?
@@2BProductions You could fit into a Large. But most peopple your size are probably going XL
This has nothing to do with Arcteryx but could you recomend a resort ski jacket that's under $500 (max ~$400 with 20/30% discount applied). I'm really just looking for a jacket that I'm gonna be wearing while learning and progressing on skis. The winter is pretty warm where I am, it almost never gets less than 25/30 F (-5/0 Celsius). And when it does I'm usually not going cause of bad visibility. Also I don't even really need a mid layer since i'd be sweating in these temperatures. Currently found a The North Face Descendit Men's jacket but its only $170 (45% off tho) and I don't think a good ski jacket would cost this low even with a 45% OFF. And I'm dissapointed so many people say TNF is garbage now (unless their expensive summit series). Also it's insulated, but I got told to look for something without insulation, and get a mid layer instead. You think getting an insulated jacket but without mid layer is fine for those temperatures?
That jacket would be fine for most people to start skiing, so don’t worry what other people are saying. I used to ski in a north face jacket as well and it was totally fine. You could go for the north face Triclimate. The insulation is removable incase it’s a warm day
Thanks for reply!@@WillFaulkner
Is it the same length on the Sabre and rush?
Yea they were the same length.
How does the rush compare to the alpha sv? I know rush is geared towards skiing and alpha is geared to mountaineering.
I destroyed my rush jacket in 3 seasons (180 days total/60 days per season): split seams & pack abrasion. Warranty granted me purchase price toward any product & I got the alpha & 5 years still functioning well. The warranty is "practical life of garment" which is entirely at their discretion, so I felt rather lucky to get full price product credit. The solid back fabric on the alpha with no seams plus the heavier denier nylon makes all the difference. The alpha is a climbing jacket so the arms are cut for overhead ice & rock climbing, & the Napoleon pockets are designed for harness use.
one thing is the saber is a bit longer in the back compared to the rush
Good to know!
Bro can you help me choose a jacket? I want to buy a hard shell jacket for a mix of everyday use while on rainy / snowy or colder climates but also use it for snowboarding so to have some breathability to it as well. What would you recommend? Any of these Arc’teryx jackets or the Noronna T?
What is you budget?
@@WillFaulkner I don’t have a budget in mind to be honest, it’s fine if it’s expensive as long as it works
@@danieloflaherty2154 Personally, at this point I'd go for the Norrona trollveggen Gore-Tex Pro Jacket. When I buy another one this is what I would get as my only hard shell. Other than that, the Beta SV would be my second option. This is assuming you are fine with the cost. Also keep in mind the Norrona is long. Good for skiing but if you're on the shorter side it may be too long. I personally like the length.
thats not really a fleece, as a fleece would be a material with a long pile length fabric it's just a lining for the jacket. It also has nothing to do with how warm the jacket is, as the protection, and breathability comes down to the outer shell and the Gore-Tex is in the middle of the 3 layers. The gore tex membrane is what gives the jackets the breathability, and waterproofing/protection
Could you wear an XL? Or wayyy too big?
An XL would be way to big for my size
Do you think you could review the new Sabre SV? I just bought it, and it retails for $900. Im going to be skiing in whistler next year, so I pulled the trigger on the SV because apparently it’s much more protected from the elements then the standard Sabre.
The SV has a longer cut at the waist to cover your butt better. It is also 100D vs 80D GoreTex, so it’s a little more durable.
what size are you wearing?
Size large
@@WillFaulkner how tall are you?
@@aaronwylie9083 6'1
im 170cm and 68 kg and want a baggy fit what size should I get
I would just go with whatever size you regularly wear. The jacktes are made to be baggy
Thanks for this!!!
This review is now old. Rush has no skirt. Fit has changed. Large is notnathletic cut and has very long sleeves. Am 6'2" and fit. With underlayer on, jacket was ok at shoulders, sleeves ended at fingers and waist was 3 inches wider than my insulated jacket. So not good fit if you are not overweight.
Was it better if you sized down ?
@@WillFaulkner don't know, wanted the snow skirt. I think my next choice is Norrona if it goes on sale.
@@rogerl1203 that would be a good move. Highly recommend
900 for a raincoat is wild
Agree, just get an umbrella
i just curious about how annoying the sabre snow skirt is ? The other choice is Beta lt, and the sabre AR is on sale now. These two price are only more USD$30 than the other. Hard to choose...
If you will be using it as a rain shell when there is no snow, I would go Beta LT. The snow skirt will be annoying unless you are actually using to for snow.
Thanks! How about those pockets inside?is that the reason to choose sabre?
@@ChengEnYang-h6k Not really unless you usually carry alot in your pockets.
Looks like a rip off
I just got the Rush for £350 same colour hoping to use it as a everyday jacket
Nice !
Update?
@@oskarcaning9521 it's generally good for when its when its raining, at first the material is quite loud and crinkly but it seems alright after a few months and the length is good for stormy days. The powder skirt on the jacket you don't really notice after a while
@@oskarcaning9521 i'll also add that it does feel slightly baggy at first
@@wills5434 okay tysm