I had heard that this was the original ending, but I never believed it. Early in the movie they reference the exact esoteric rule that allows them to win the game, and there are several other setups that only make sense when they’re paid off in the finale.
There’s no way it was the real ending. The “alternate ending” is a joke special feature. The idea that the director walked off set insisting on it is funny, but obviously a joke.
@@dserv I could see it being the original original ending, while the script was still in the rough draft phase. It would be the ultimate send up for this type of movie. But yeah, there's no way it survived long enough to require re-shoots to change. It would have been recognized as being way too much of a downer for a comedy fairly early on.
Claiming him bettin on his own team was "random" didn't make sense to me. Seemed like it was pretty well set up. Honestly though... I thought it'd be funnier if he bet on the rival team and then they lost, and his winnings that allowed him to buy globatech came from Ben Stiller winning. That would have been even more hilarious to me. Ben Stiller got what he wanted, to win... but still lost the war.
Thank you! It always bothers me when I see articles talking about the "original" ending of Dodgeball, when it was pretty clear to me that that was meant as a gag. Not only would ending the movie there cut off many subplots as was mentioned in this video, but it would also shave off about 10 minutes from an already short movie. This would have likely made it below feature length. Plus, the twist with the sudden death is foreshadowed earlier in the movie. Again, thank you for (hopefully) putting this one to bed.
This movie holds a special place in my heart. My grandma bought it for my 6th birthday on VHS thinking it was "some sports movie". My dad and I watched it that night and I've been quoting it ever since 😅
me too, but very different scenario i use to work at a holiday inn express and i was chillin in a room with a friend, his girl, and his girl's friend. i ordered the movie on the phone through the movie on demand service we had and put this one on. I was on a few handles (xanax) with weed and my friend's girlfriend's friend was laying down on her stomach at the foot of the bed, kind of blocking my view. now . . . she was a bigger girl and the handles and weed had her looking very nice from that angle. that was the one and only time I got with a big girl and I had to rewatch the movie. i enjoyed both very much i repeated. the movie more than the chick.
I believe there's an interview somewhere on youtube with the director of this movie where he discusses his (then) new film "We're the Millers" and "Dodgeball" is briefly brought up and he plainly states that the dark ending was never meant to be the "artistic and true" ending, it was always a joke.
Dodgeball's deleted scenes, bonus features and commentary gives a big example of why Physical Media should continue to exist. You won't get this kind of content of streaming services.
Literally everything-every single moment, object, thought, and sensation-is an absolute command from God that physical media should be prioritized over everything other than maybe friendship.
Why? Why always give the good guys the bi sexual girl, the money the gyms, everything from someone who just wanted to expand? The alternative ending is my cannon ending
It's pretty upsetting we won't be getting this type of extra stuff anymore. I miss waking up at a sleepover to the DVD menu repeating something cool. The movie monkeybone comes to mind
The special features when dvds first came out used to have hours of commentary , making of rhe movie, and bunch of bloopers and other intresting stuff. Even user to have commentary that would play during the movie with the stars and director. Not going to get that stuff anymore with streaming being king
We have definitely been spared some utterly horrible 'original endings' by test audiences (Sweet Home Alabama comes to mind) that can leave you wonder "What the hell *were* they thinking?!" But in this case, the joke explanation makes a lot of sense. Off to find those easter eggs now … :-)
The alternate ending of Clerks was depressing...like REALLY depressing. I remember seeing it on Siskel and Ebert and the movie being completely ruined by it.
i wonder what would have happened if he kept the old ending. it comes out of nowhere and adds to the bleak meaninglessness of dantes day. maybe smith makes more serious movies moving forward instead of feel good sarcastic slacker stoner comedies. chasing amy and jersey girl still have snap and wit and funny moments and a pinch of jay and silent bob but they show a road forward in well written dramas if those didnt bomb. could be critically acclaimed in the same breath as linklater tarantino amd the coen bros. but then he backed away mostly from ambition leaned into “what the people want” got high on his own supply literally got lazy rested on his laurels and aside from a few interesting oddities in red state and tusk has been playing the hits ever since. maybe if he cuts out all the weed some ambition can creep back in and he can deliver something great again. unfortunately his primary financiers for years were the weinsteins so hes going to have to convince someone else to give him a real budget again. the last two got made and every penny they could find in the couch cushions wound up on screen but you can still see the limitations.
It's funny to me that while the happy ending seems particularly contrived, it actually makes the original ending more grim. *Peter bet his saving and lost. A loss that he can never hope to bounce back from. His life ruined by dodgeball.*
Would of worked with the "grim" ending if instead of him betting on winning, he bet on losing knowing he was representing AverageJoes against comically elite meatheads. Lose the match, then save his gym with the winnings and then some, cut to a post credit roll of adorably successful misfits living life with a bunch of post physical potential meatheads breaking down.
@@attemptedunkindness3632 that wouldnt really work though because the average joes were massive underdogs. so betting on globogym wouldn't have netted nearly as much profit
Dodgeball is one of my favourite films, in my opinion I’m happy they didn’t use the alternate sad ending where Globo Gym won the Dodgeball Tournament and Average Joe were the sore losers. Average Joe’s are meant to be the heroes of the film and it would’ve been unfair to see them lose after all they fought for in trying to save their beloved gym from foreclosure against Globo Gym as White Goodman was such a greedy, selfish, cocky and arrogant jerk who’d do anything to stop them.
I like the idea of really using the most of the medium you are working in, and they did it with a the best case of old fashioned trolling, editing the ending to make it look like the original (bad) ending, is brilliant, I was about to believe that, but digging into the rest of the features and extras and realizing they really turned the normally just expectating act of move watching into something interactive so you can discover the truth behind the "real ending" is just complete brilliance, those guys are geniuses.
The alternate (original) ending was too abrupt and incomplete, not to mention a cop-out. The actual ending allowed for sudden death, which offered a far more satisfying closure. However, a couple of things didn't make sense... 1. If White stepped over the line before hitting Peter, he's out. Game over. The ref should have called that immediately, seeing as he had no problem making a similar call earlier in the tournament. An improved alternate ending would have Peter not losing focus after eliminating Me'Shell, which was incomprehensible at that point in the tornament. 2. (Covered in commentary) How did Peter possibly have time to bet against Globodyne oops Globo-Gym, considering he originally planned to skip the final? He was at the airport already, for the love of Mike. I would suggest that he bought off the judges to evade disqualification, except only Gordon knew the by-law!
I remember listening to the commentry as a kid and being shocked that they left midway. I went to tell my mother and asked if we needed to notify the dvd company 😂
@@TheSamfrog so a joke alternative ending isn't an alternative ending? Wanna tell Nerdstalgic to watch their own video before giving it the title "The depressing alternate ending of dodgeball?"
An elaborate bit of trolling by the producers director and stars to get more attention from viewers and fans , so as to boost the sales of the DVD after the film was released.
My god! THANK YOU! When I first watched the "Alternate ending" with director commentary, i thought it was a gag. A really funny one at that. But then all these videos and websites talked about it like it was legitimate and I was baffled.
Such a classic movie, I can't believe that it's almost 20 years old now. I never even realised that there was a sadder ending originally, Thank God for test audiences!
The test audience theory made me remember that Robert De Niro movie where he plays a producer that has to work with an out of control director. De Niro's character is pressured by the studio to convince the director to change the ending of a movie in which a dog is shot and killed. Not "old Yeller" style either. That movie just had the dog die off screen. In this movie the director wanted to show the dog getting shot directly in the head. Like in full view. No cut aways or anything. The producer and director spend the entire movie going back and forth about the ending. When it comes time to show it to the audience De Niro thinks the director did a reshoot and fixed it. At the last minute the original ending is shown and the audience is horrified by what they see. By the end of the movie De Niro's character is left at the airport and presumably fired by the studio for not handling the director better.
Every April fools day, ESPN2 becomes ESPN8 The Ocho, and they show televised real sports, of weird wacky sports people dont generally watch, like log rolling, and darts, and wood chopping. Even though ESPN8 is a joke, the sports they show are real.
The ending we got was better and I actually thought Joes did lose the first time I saw this in theaters but as soon as the ref blue the whistle I new the tables had turned because of White stepping over the line on the throw.
Man this vid is the epitome of "They got us in the first half" lol. I remember this movie fondly but didn't know about the dvd extras or anything like that. So all of this is news to me and initially I was *very* concerned. But the longer I watched this vid the more I was like "Wait this is all a joke isn't it?". What a bunch of trolls lol. Still, it was a well done one from the sound of it. Fooled tons of people...including some in this very comment section. Gonna assume they didn't watch the whole vid.
I just realized it, you what is funny is that what Peter did in the film ending betting on his team to win is an action ban by many sporting leagues. While not illegal by State or Ferderal law, the Dodgeball leagues often ban you from betting even your own team. Peter would lose the match on this alone.
I absolutely love this movie. Along with Tropic Thunder, it's my favorite comedy movie. I watch it fairly regularly and no matter how many times I've seen it, I still get plenty of laughs. I was unaware of some of these DVD extras, as we did have the DVD and I went through them, but I dont think I watched the commentary so I missed on that absolute gold mine of comedy. Great concept for a commentary and really adds to this already hilarious film.
Tropic thunder can go fuck itself using the pathetic r word countless times it's a form of hate speech and should be banned and doesn't help people with developmental disabilities Ben is a pos for using this hurtful word, setting us back 20 years as a society
Ted Lasso did the subversion of the “underdog storybook ending” the best-albeit as a sports comedy, it’s quite a different tone from Dodgeball. But the S1 finale basically ripped off Rocky only as a foreshadow of the series finale in Season 3, where they’ve set up a context where the ethos about it not mattering whether a team wins or loses is firmly established, and the fact that they didn’t win the league like they set out to is an afterthought. How could this have informed the ending of Dodgeball? Well, if Vince Vaughn’s character had leveraged the payout by some other means (perhaps even by betting against the Average Joe’s). However it ensues or explained from there, it’s a fertile ground for the antics of Ben Stiller’s character to be in a situation where he’s won the silly little dodgeball tournament, but he’s losing his gym and everything that matters beyond the day’s events, and vice versa for the Average Joe’s
this was one of my favourite movies of all time, hilarious, but also with a few messages that still to this day have aged pretty well. Stiller was just PHENOMENAL!!!
I’m glad to find It was just a gag! One thing I can’t stand is alternate endings in movies. It’s like, “then they persevered, wept tears, overcame and bled to win the tournament…. Or they lost.”
I always love alternate endings where the heroes don't quite get their whole cake. A lot of the time the happy endings are not exactly the most sensible but rather the ones people find most wholesome. But I do prefer villains to heroes so take this comment with a grain of salt.
When I agree that the “alternate ending” was a joke it does put a splash of reality that sometimes things don't work out the way you want them too. As to the confusion it was played to straight to be realized as a joke:
Some of those people Like replaced upstanding people. Doctors, Lawyers, Scientist, Congress men. Then didn't get high as much or stayed high. Have done way worse. I remember what normal was what Average was still after staying high all those years. And you sir are not normal. 👺
Honestly... I could believe this. The entire thing was clearly Bad News Bears from the beginning... and talk about movies that would never be made again...
You guys know earlier scenes in a movie can be added in after the ending, right? as in if they needed to increase the movie length, and change the ending in the process, they can add more scenes to set up a new ending
Whoa. I knew of this alternate ending but I didn't know it was a joke. They got me good. I thought how the hell do you end on that note? I never knew this. Awesome.
I just never understood why Peter decided not to show up, then at the last minute after they cancelled the match due to lack of players, he then showed up and we find out he bet all his money on Average Joes to win, when originally he thought they had no chance.
Heroes pervail is the ending most people come to expect and one as old as time. While it subverting expectations, I don't think this goofball comedy would have been held in the same regard today. Maybe among film geeks, but this isnt meant to be a thought provoking Sundance film. They did the right thing with the final cut. Sometimes you have to know your audience, not make the audience to suit your purpose.
There was also an alternative version of when white Goodman gets the warning when he has to kneel in the ‘triangle of shame’ and the crowd throws shit at him. Wish that was kept in.
It was definitely a joke when they first arrive at the tournament there is a line about the double fault elimination and sudden death a clear setup for the ending.
Oh come on! They could bring back every single extra in the crowd, put every single one in exactly the same clothes with the same wristwatches, bracelets, earrings, necklaces and on and on and on and... Clearly done at the time of filming, not a re-shoot.
I honestly don't even care of it was the original or not. But it would've been a hell of a subversion of underdog sports movie-- and ballsy-- to release a movie where the underdogs lose and that's it. I find that hilarious just because that's the most subversive thing you can do in an underdog movie
I wasn't aware of this. I do like some commentary's sometimes. I still like Resident Evil Movie 1's because Jovovich and Rodriguez seemed to be making fun of whats going on and brought up how one of the actors had a thing for ice cream. Rodriguez also couldn't believe Jovovich got nude for the movie. Also at times you do hear fun facts like how this was the original ending for Dodgeball. I always liked the movie. Honestly I don't blame them for changing it.
Thank you thank you thank you. I did not know this about the movie. I do love the movie and this made it so much cooler. I never bought much for DVDs in my life but I really wish I had bought this one just for this. Thank you so much.
I wish they used the alternate ending for Global Gym to win, but Peter bet against his team on losing, and sponsors loved Average Joe's team and they got more money.
I always wondered why Peter would put 100 grand on winning and barely show up in time not to forfeit. Doesn’t make much sense but them changing the ending last minute kind of adds up.
Pretty much every DVD commentary Ive watched with Will Ferrell has been him doing a long bit and everything becomes a clusterfuck. It's less of a commentary and more of just 2 hours of improv comedy
Honestly I think the ending would have been better if Average Joes lost but then it was revealed Peter bet against the average joes because he knew they would lose but won all the money.
l love this movie especially steve the pirate l love his style,looks his hair...l was so sad when his character had the makeover.I love the unicorns though very cute....deadpool would be thrilled
The only way i can see the alternate ending as being plausible, is back when they were first coming up with the story they probably went back and forth on which idea to do. Then put the one that lost in an alternate ending sequence.
I had heard that this was the original ending, but I never believed it. Early in the movie they reference the exact esoteric rule that allows them to win the game, and there are several other setups that only make sense when they’re paid off in the finale.
There’s no way it was the real ending. The “alternate ending” is a joke special feature. The idea that the director walked off set insisting on it is funny, but obviously a joke.
@@dserv I could see it being the original original ending, while the script was still in the rough draft phase. It would be the ultimate send up for this type of movie.
But yeah, there's no way it survived long enough to require re-shoots to change. It would have been recognized as being way too much of a downer for a comedy fairly early on.
Literally this TH-camr told you it was fake and you guys are arguing about that lol
Claiming him bettin on his own team was "random" didn't make sense to me. Seemed like it was pretty well set up. Honestly though... I thought it'd be funnier if he bet on the rival team and then they lost, and his winnings that allowed him to buy globatech came from Ben Stiller winning. That would have been even more hilarious to me. Ben Stiller got what he wanted, to win... but still lost the war.
@@elementalcobalt1 Yeah, but that would make no sense as a bet on Globo would have paid out barely anything at all, with them being heavy favorites.
Thank you! It always bothers me when I see articles talking about the "original" ending of Dodgeball, when it was pretty clear to me that that was meant as a gag. Not only would ending the movie there cut off many subplots as was mentioned in this video, but it would also shave off about 10 minutes from an already short movie. This would have likely made it below feature length. Plus, the twist with the sudden death is foreshadowed earlier in the movie.
Again, thank you for (hopefully) putting this one to bed.
Feature length is 60m+, Dodgeball's runtime was 92 so it would still be feature length.
I had the DVD when it came out. The director said this was the original plan. Test audiences shit all over it.
It’s so hilarious when he says “nobody makes me bleed my own blood” 🤣
I still say it till this day 😂
I still quote the line regularly. Genius line!
NOBODY!!!!!
@@robertmccabe1919Same here. There are so many good ones from this movie. "Real FREAKY NAUGHTY" 😂😂😂
Simpsons did it!!!
Nelson Muntz said it first.
This movie holds a special place in my heart. My grandma bought it for my 6th birthday on VHS thinking it was "some sports movie". My dad and I watched it that night and I've been quoting it ever since 😅
I saw this movie in theaters as a kid sitting next to my dad. The whole training montage has us cracking up. Hardest I laughed at a movie as a kid
Very quotable haha
Did the same with my dad and brother, great family bonding movie.
To this day I still say “nobody makes me bleed my own blood”.
me too, but very different scenario
i use to work at a holiday inn express and i was chillin in a room with a friend, his girl, and his girl's friend. i ordered the movie on the phone through the movie on demand service we had and put this one on. I was on a few handles (xanax) with weed and my friend's girlfriend's friend was laying down on her stomach at the foot of the bed, kind of blocking my view. now . . . she was a bigger girl and the handles and weed had her looking very nice from that angle.
that was the one and only time I got with a big girl and I had to rewatch the movie. i enjoyed both very much i repeated. the movie more than the chick.
This is why Physical Media like DVD Matters So Much. I never realized that this "alternate ending" existed.
"ESPN 8: The Ocho!"
I'm 32, I still buy the physical if I can. I love my collection of DVD and Blue Ray
I believe there's an interview somewhere on youtube with the director of this movie where he discusses his (then) new film "We're the Millers" and "Dodgeball" is briefly brought up and he plainly states that the dark ending was never meant to be the "artistic and true" ending, it was always a joke.
I clearly remember the DVD stating that this was a joke and can't believe that a single person took it seriously.
Lol that changes everything
Dodgeball's deleted scenes, bonus features and commentary gives a big example of why Physical Media should continue to exist. You won't get this kind of content of streaming services.
Depends on the service. Disney+ has tonnes of extras and dvd stuff for a lot of shows and movies. There's like hours of toy story stuff for example
Literally everything-every single moment, object, thought, and sensation-is an absolute command from God that physical media should be prioritized over everything other than maybe friendship.
While not every movie has to end with a win, but no movie should end with this much loss.
idk man its kinda funny
With the origin story being "Heavyweights" it's only logical Stillers character gets a win in the 2nd movie
More comedys need to lose in the end for an obvious quote movie
Why? Why always give the good guys the bi sexual girl, the money the gyms, everything from someone who just wanted to expand? The alternative ending is my cannon ending
@@havelthedeadinside1799why did u specifically mention “bisexual girls” lmaooo
It's pretty upsetting we won't be getting this type of extra stuff anymore. I miss waking up at a sleepover to the DVD menu repeating something cool. The movie monkeybone comes to mind
The special features when dvds first came out used to have hours of commentary , making of rhe movie, and bunch of bloopers and other intresting stuff. Even user to have commentary that would play during the movie with the stars and director. Not going to get that stuff anymore with streaming being king
Extras was my favorite on all my favorite movies
@@christianterrill3503my family would always watch through bloopers after the movie
We have definitely been spared some utterly horrible 'original endings' by test audiences (Sweet Home Alabama comes to mind) that can leave you wonder "What the hell *were* they thinking?!"
But in this case, the joke explanation makes a lot of sense.
Off to find those easter eggs now … :-)
What the original ending to Sweet Home Alabama.
@@stephonmanny7555 i think they killed Melany...
Reese is struck by lightning and dies.@@stephonmanny7555
Yeah but sometimes it goes the other way, like I Am Legend.
@@leephillips4402I don't quite remember … only that the book ending apparently is *way* different.
I had no idea that commentary existed. That's the most hilarious thing I've heard in a long time. 😂
The whole section about the commentary reminds about Talladega Nights that commentary is so random and off the wall but I love it
The alternate ending of Clerks was depressing...like REALLY depressing. I remember seeing it on Siskel and Ebert and the movie being completely ruined by it.
It was a good change.
i wonder what would have happened if he kept the old ending. it comes out of nowhere and adds to the bleak meaninglessness of dantes day. maybe smith makes more serious movies moving forward instead of feel good sarcastic slacker stoner comedies. chasing amy and jersey girl still have snap and wit and funny moments and a pinch of jay and silent bob but they show a road forward in well written dramas if those didnt bomb. could be critically acclaimed in the same breath as linklater tarantino amd the coen bros. but then he backed away mostly from ambition leaned into “what the people want” got high on his own supply literally got lazy rested on his laurels and aside from a few interesting oddities in red state and tusk has been playing the hits ever since. maybe if he cuts out all the weed some ambition can creep back in and he can deliver something great again. unfortunately his primary financiers for years were the weinsteins so hes going to have to convince someone else to give him a real budget again. the last two got made and every penny they could find in the couch cushions wound up on screen but you can still see the limitations.
It's funny to me that while the happy ending seems particularly contrived, it actually makes the original ending more grim.
*Peter bet his saving and lost. A loss that he can never hope to bounce back from. His life ruined by dodgeball.*
Would of worked with the "grim" ending if instead of him betting on winning, he bet on losing knowing he was representing AverageJoes against comically elite meatheads. Lose the match, then save his gym with the winnings and then some, cut to a post credit roll of adorably successful misfits living life with a bunch of post physical potential meatheads breaking down.
@@attemptedunkindness3632 that wouldnt really work though because the average joes were massive underdogs. so betting on globogym wouldn't have netted nearly as much profit
@@attemptedunkindness3632 I'd have enjoyed that too!
the reshot happy ending sucked. didn't fit at all. the original abrupt ending was funnier as it satirized the typical hoozier ending
@@cagneybillingsley2165what's the typical Hoosier ending?
Dodgeball is one of my favourite films, in my opinion I’m happy they didn’t use the alternate sad ending where Globo Gym won the Dodgeball Tournament and Average Joe were the sore losers.
Average Joe’s are meant to be the heroes of the film and it would’ve been unfair to see them lose after all they fought for in trying to save their beloved gym from foreclosure against Globo Gym as White Goodman was such a greedy, selfish, cocky and arrogant jerk who’d do anything to stop them.
I still cant dodge a wrench...
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I like the idea of really using the most of the medium you are working in, and they did it with a the best case of old fashioned trolling, editing the ending to make it look like the original (bad) ending, is brilliant, I was about to believe that, but digging into the rest of the features and extras and realizing they really turned the normally just expectating act of move watching into something interactive so you can discover the truth behind the "real ending" is just complete brilliance, those guys are geniuses.
Lol an alternative ending that wasn't an alternative ending. It definitely was a joke and it makes me love Dodgeball even more now.
I remember finding that commentary and the way it switches over to another Vince Vaughn movies commentary half way through
The alternate (original) ending was too abrupt and incomplete, not to mention a cop-out. The actual ending allowed for sudden death, which offered a far more satisfying closure. However, a couple of things didn't make sense...
1. If White stepped over the line before hitting Peter, he's out. Game over. The ref should have called that immediately, seeing as he had no problem making a similar call earlier in the tournament. An improved alternate ending would have Peter not losing focus after eliminating Me'Shell, which was incomprehensible at that point in the tornament.
2. (Covered in commentary) How did Peter possibly have time to bet against Globodyne oops Globo-Gym, considering he originally planned to skip the final? He was at the airport already, for the love of Mike. I would suggest that he bought off the judges to evade disqualification, except only Gordon knew the by-law!
The "original" ending was a joke, not the real original ending.
1. It's a double fault.
No, if you step on the line while throw out the last remaining member of the opposite team than you have to play sudden death.
This was the best comedy of the 2000's
Nah, that goes to Anchorman or Step Brothers. Honorable mention to the Austin Powers movies
I think Walk Hard, Zoolander, Napoleon Dynamite, and Black Dynamite were a bit better. Also, the first 2 Shreks.
Tropic Thunder and it's not even close
I remember listening to the commentry as a kid and being shocked that they left midway. I went to tell my mother and asked if we needed to notify the dvd company 😂
Appreciate this analysis. Good content
I was today year's old when I found out there was an alternative ending for this gem. Glad they changed it.
There wasn't. Watch the video before commenting
And they get more likes than the actual truth 🫠
@@TheSamfrog so a joke alternative ending isn't an alternative ending? Wanna tell Nerdstalgic to watch their own video before giving it the title "The depressing alternate ending of dodgeball?"
@@Mrstobastobaoh my God, why are you not getting it? ITS CLICKBAIT.
@@KingRey. brudda I saw the video 😂😂. Condescending for likes ain't the way to go chief.
An elaborate bit of trolling by the producers director and stars to get more attention from viewers and fans , so as to boost the sales of the DVD after the film was released.
My god! THANK YOU! When I first watched the "Alternate ending" with director commentary, i thought it was a gag. A really funny one at that. But then all these videos and websites talked about it like it was legitimate and I was baffled.
I absolutely hated Ben stiller in this movie but at the same time he was also absolutely fucking hilarious.
You hate his performance? Or you hate the character? If you hate the character and think he was hilarious, then you love Ben Stiller in this movie
White Goodman is the real hero of this story
His character in this movie is sort of similar to zoolander
@@pajamaman2989 more like pedanticman2989 amirite
@@Vivi_9 you're gonna go far, kid
"At Globo Gym we're better than you and we know it." OMG is this where MJF got his catchphrase from? LOL
I mean he would have been around 8 when the movie came out, being a few years older I remember that this movie was *very* popular. So it's plausible
Such a classic movie, I can't believe that it's almost 20 years old now. I never even realised that there was a sadder ending originally, Thank God for test audiences!
Did you not watch the video
@@hlx7297 My man read the title, made a comment, and got 27 likes.
The test audience theory made me remember that Robert De Niro movie where he plays a producer that has to work with an out of control director. De Niro's character is pressured by the studio to convince the director to change the ending of a movie in which a dog is shot and killed. Not "old Yeller" style either. That movie just had the dog die off screen. In this movie the director wanted to show the dog getting shot directly in the head. Like in full view. No cut aways or anything. The producer and director spend the entire movie going back and forth about the ending. When it comes time to show it to the audience De Niro thinks the director did a reshoot and fixed it. At the last minute the original ending is shown and the audience is horrified by what they see. By the end of the movie De Niro's character is left at the airport and presumably fired by the studio for not handling the director better.
What movie is that?
@@josephmonasky9495 It's a film from 2008 called What Just Happened.
White Goodman
Les Grossman
Ben stiller has a pattern going
Les Grossman was Tom Cruise
@@bradleywalker8642Ben stiller named the character though
It Would Have Made The Movie One Of The All Time Best Comedies Ever Made.
Every April fools day, ESPN2 becomes ESPN8 The Ocho, and they show televised real sports, of weird wacky sports people dont generally watch, like log rolling, and darts, and wood chopping. Even though ESPN8 is a joke, the sports they show are real.
Hurts you include darts in that list
That was regular ESPN in 1985
@@eddieflynn3889 I wasn't around in 1985.
@@connor1586
Log rolling, wood chopping and -watching paint dry- American Football.
There, I fixed it!
The ending we got was better and I actually thought Joes did lose the first time I saw this in theaters but as soon as the ref blue the whistle I new the tables had turned because of White stepping over the line on the throw.
Man this vid is the epitome of "They got us in the first half" lol. I remember this movie fondly but didn't know about the dvd extras or anything like that. So all of this is news to me and initially I was *very* concerned. But the longer I watched this vid the more I was like "Wait this is all a joke isn't it?". What a bunch of trolls lol. Still, it was a well done one from the sound of it. Fooled tons of people...including some in this very comment section. Gonna assume they didn't watch the whole vid.
I actually took a wrench to the head because of this movie.
I wasn't even training for dodgeball...
Great now I have to drive back to my childhood home to find my dvd copy and look for those Easter eggs 🙄😏
I just realized it, you what is funny is that what Peter did in the film ending betting on his team to win is an action ban by many sporting leagues. While not illegal by State or Ferderal law, the Dodgeball leagues often ban you from betting even your own team. Peter would lose the match on this alone.
I get why you would want to make them lose when it's a satire of underdog movies, but the "happy" ending is over the top and works better IMO.
I got a Planet Fitness ad in the middle of the video 😅
I wouldn't have rewatched it so many times if it had the original ending I think. So I think they made a good decision, at least IMO
I remember that from the dvd. It was all obvious at the tine that it was a joke. It's embarrassing that anyone ever took that seriously.
I absolutely love this movie. Along with Tropic Thunder, it's my favorite comedy movie. I watch it fairly regularly and no matter how many times I've seen it, I still get plenty of laughs. I was unaware of some of these DVD extras, as we did have the DVD and I went through them, but I dont think I watched the commentary so I missed on that absolute gold mine of comedy. Great concept for a commentary and really adds to this already hilarious film.
Tropic thunder can go fuck itself using the pathetic r word countless times it's a form of hate speech and should be banned and doesn't help people with developmental disabilities Ben is a pos for using this hurtful word, setting us back 20 years as a society
Ted Lasso did the subversion of the “underdog storybook ending” the best-albeit as a sports comedy, it’s quite a different tone from Dodgeball. But the S1 finale basically ripped off Rocky only as a foreshadow of the series finale in Season 3, where they’ve set up a context where the ethos about it not mattering whether a team wins or loses is firmly established, and the fact that they didn’t win the league like they set out to is an afterthought.
How could this have informed the ending of Dodgeball? Well, if Vince Vaughn’s character had leveraged the payout by some other means (perhaps even by betting against the Average Joe’s). However it ensues or explained from there, it’s a fertile ground for the antics of Ben Stiller’s character to be in a situation where he’s won the silly little dodgeball tournament, but he’s losing his gym and everything that matters beyond the day’s events, and vice versa for the Average Joe’s
this was one of my favourite movies of all time, hilarious, but also with a few messages that still to this day have aged pretty well. Stiller was just PHENOMENAL!!!
I’m glad to find It was just a gag! One thing I can’t stand is alternate endings in movies. It’s like, “then they persevered, wept tears, overcame and bled to win the tournament….
Or they lost.”
I always love alternate endings where the heroes don't quite get their whole cake. A lot of the time the happy endings are not exactly the most sensible but rather the ones people find most wholesome. But I do prefer villains to heroes so take this comment with a grain of salt.
When I agree that the “alternate ending” was a joke it does put a splash of reality that sometimes things don't work out the way you want them too.
As to the confusion it was played to straight to be realized as a joke:
I had seen the alt ending on Comedy Central years after seeing it on pay per view. It tripped me out
You should do the mighty ducks ending, they are supposed lose the game, the team ends up fighting and the coach ODs in the locker room showers
Some of those people Like replaced upstanding people. Doctors, Lawyers, Scientist, Congress men. Then didn't get high as much or stayed high. Have done way worse. I remember what normal was what Average was still after staying high all those years. And you sir are not normal. 👺
I'm here though High cholesterol Close to having Diabetes. It's common when you stay high.
Love this movie!
Honestly... I could believe this. The entire thing was clearly Bad News Bears from the beginning... and talk about movies that would never be made again...
You guys know earlier scenes in a movie can be added in after the ending, right? as in if they needed to increase the movie length, and change the ending in the process, they can add more scenes to set up a new ending
Somehow im always having a smoke after lunch on my back deck whenevs nerdstaglic uploads.
This is probably my favourite Ben stiller character ever. He plays it absolutely perfect.
The Talledega Nights Commentary is also a work of art
My belief in the alternate ending being the real one started and ended with your video.
So... yeah.
It Rian Johnson wrote and directed this, I would've believed the "original ending" was the one intended.
Whoa. I knew of this alternate ending but I didn't know it was a joke. They got me good. I thought how the hell do you end on that note? I never knew this. Awesome.
I'm amazed how well this movie has held up
I just never understood why Peter decided not to show up, then at the last minute after they cancelled the match due to lack of players, he then showed up and we find out he bet all his money on Average Joes to win, when originally he thought they had no chance.
And they took dodgeball out of most schools like 3 years after this movie came out. Now they use those foam balls that barely pick up speed
So in other words, the DVD had the same ending but if you wanted to see the alternate ending you had to click through some stuff.
Heroes pervail is the ending most people come to expect and one as old as time. While it subverting expectations, I don't think this goofball comedy would have been held in the same regard today. Maybe among film geeks, but this isnt meant to be a thought provoking Sundance film. They did the right thing with the final cut. Sometimes you have to know your audience, not make the audience to suit your purpose.
There was also an alternative version of when white Goodman gets the warning when he has to kneel in the ‘triangle of shame’ and the crowd throws shit at him. Wish that was kept in.
It was definitely a joke when they first arrive at the tournament there is a line about the double fault elimination and sudden death a clear setup for the ending.
Oh come on! They could bring back every single extra in the crowd, put every single one in exactly the same clothes with the same wristwatches, bracelets, earrings, necklaces and on and on and on and...
Clearly done at the time of filming, not a re-shoot.
I honestly don't even care of it was the original or not. But it would've been a hell of a subversion of underdog sports movie-- and ballsy-- to release a movie where the underdogs lose and that's it. I find that hilarious just because that's the most subversive thing you can do in an underdog movie
I will never not picture Ben Stiller's character when I hear the song "Milkshake"...lmfao!!!
Great video.
I just realized their uniforms are the same as the hickory basketball teams
This movie, like Team America, was funny as all hell the first time i saw it. The next few times I saw it years later, it just didnt hit the same.
I've always loved that they chose someone as skinny as Ben Stiller to play a body builder.
When I first watched the "alternate ending" I was absolutely howling. It was obviously a gag.
I wasn't aware of this.
I do like some commentary's sometimes. I still like Resident Evil Movie 1's because Jovovich and Rodriguez seemed to be making fun of whats going on and brought up how one of the actors had a thing for ice cream. Rodriguez also couldn't believe Jovovich got nude for the movie.
Also at times you do hear fun facts like how this was the original ending for Dodgeball.
I always liked the movie. Honestly I don't blame them for changing it.
I’m glad they changed the ending even if Vince and Ben didn’t like it. Give the people what they want.
Thank you thank you thank you. I did not know this about the movie. I do love the movie and this made it so much cooler. I never bought much for DVDs in my life but I really wish I had bought this one just for this. Thank you so much.
Love this film
Same
This movie has a good commentary track but tropic thunder has the absolute best.
I wish they used the alternate ending for Global Gym to win, but Peter bet against his team on losing, and sponsors loved Average Joe's team and they got more money.
NOBODY MAKES ME BLEED MY OWN BLOOD
It would been fun to have the movie to cut to the ending a couple seconds to have that interrupted for the judge and resuming the movie.
Thanks for letting us know.
I always wondered why Peter would put 100 grand on winning and barely show up in time not to forfeit. Doesn’t make much sense but them changing the ending last minute kind of adds up.
If the original ending was that downer ending, good thing the producers pressured the director to do the theatrical ending instead. :)
I actually watched it, great thing about being at a cabin with limited movies to watch
Pretty much every DVD commentary Ive watched with Will Ferrell has been him doing a long bit and everything becomes a clusterfuck. It's less of a commentary and more of just 2 hours of improv comedy
It was in the special features of the DVD.
The director's first film???!!! He made a comedic masterpiece
“the movie was a massive hit and quickly made its way to DVD” sounds hilarious to me
2:24 what do you mean by the dvd dropping? What is “dropped”?
Dude. Stiller and Vaughn are method comedians. Damn right they would stick to the funny plan.
Dodgeball is one of my favorite comedies, I’m so shocked I never knew about this ending!
Jesus Christ, I don't need some guy explaining this
Honestly I think the ending would have been better if Average Joes lost but then it was revealed Peter bet against the average joes because he knew they would lose but won all the money.
l love this movie especially steve the pirate l love his style,looks his hair...l was so sad when his character had the makeover.I love the unicorns though very cute....deadpool would be thrilled
The only way i can see the alternate ending as being plausible, is back when they were first coming up with the story they probably went back and forth on which idea to do. Then put the one that lost in an alternate ending sequence.
Dodgeball commentry was legendary! Loved it when i got the DVD.