There is no reason not to take care of your gun no matter the cost. Clean it don’t over oil and make sure it is dry. My guns didn’t cost a fortune but are worth plenty to me. Always good videos.
People need to stop being snobs/stuck in their old ways, and start to realise that these Turkish guns are fantastic. I would go as far as saying they are probably the best gun you can buy for the price they are selling at. £600 for a brand new gun of that quality is amazing. There are too many old folk in the UK shooting who need to learn how to move on from the old days.
Well said. Fear of the prices of their brand name guns dropping is the big reason most snobs put these modern built steel ready guns down. This 20 gauge shown here is simply a clone of a Beretta.
I agree on most of that, i have an sp as a backup gun, excellent value for the money, i would argue a silver pigeon is well overpriced, in saying that these ata's are good but there is a decent difference in quality/tooling between it and entry level miroku etc , great entry level/ casual shooter, they won't last a lifetime of heavy clay shooting but for 600£ you can't get that level of engineering and materials, happily recommend them to anyone
teamflanneloutdoors I see Savage now has a Turkish made Model 555 single barrel trap gun. Looks very nice and may be cheaper than a Browning BT-99 to get started in ATA trap.
My son has the ATA 12 bore & he outshoots me using near enough everytime, & has had no faults with it. It was plain to see that you were really quite impressed with that gun Jonny.
Jonny, I think you just showed me the gun I've been looking for to convince my wife to start clay shooting 😍😍 At £600, it's hardly a big risk even if she doesn't take to the sport - I'll make use of it if that ends up being the case 👍😆 - My now 18 month old ATA 12 bore has proven a great sporting shotgun for me
I've had an ATA in 12b for a few years now. I love it, I bought it on a bit of a punt as a second gun to my Browning 525. I no longer have the Browning, I just shoot better with the ATA and its never let me down. And I really don't regret that decision, the 525 just wasn't getting used. Dont get caught up in the whole badge snobbery thing.👍
Difference between badge snobbery and knowing quality- i have an ata as a rough gun/loan gun, shoots well enough, finish is good/for the money externally, looks ok but a browning 525 is a much better quality gun, that 525 would last forever with routine maintenance, these ata's are built to a budget, cheap steel, cheap coatings, wood is far from dense, they are built to a cost and are basically a use until dead then replace item, good cheap guns if fit well, horses for courses anyone who shoots volumes as in 250 a week will burn one out in no time
Greetings from America, I recently picked up an ATA arms 12 gauge for trap and skeet and like it a lot, I just wish you guys had the freedoms we do for owning ARs and other tactical cool guns
All of the reviews of ATA that I’ve seen is generally ‘it’s a very nice gun, not a beretta but then again it’s £600….’ I translate that to they are good guns that you need not spend another £1000 on. Video after video it’s the same. It seems to be just brand snobbery holding people back. I went and bought a 12g super sport can’t wait to get to know it.
Looks nice enough to me. I see a few other mentions of Yildiz here, and yeah, I could see this ATA and the SPZ ME being the logical pair to proffer someone looking for a budget 20. Beretta-ish and sporter weight vs Rizzini-ish and light weight. Maybe this ATA will inspire Yildiz to have a go at paring down the Prostar to 20 gauge...
I recently bought a Yildiz SPZ M20 for my young daughter, nothing but problems, now looking at an ATA Ladies 20 bore as I have 2 ATA 12 bores myself and they are great!
Great review, and a lovely looking gun for the money. My ATA Supersport is a superb gun, I’ve given it some hammer and it’s never failed. I have, admittedly, gone to a 525 SL now but we shall see whether I can shoot as well with a “higher” marque. But I’m tempted here, very much so.
You mentioned you can touch up the wood very easily. is it just massaging a certain type of oil in? Im wondering if I can make the grains and fiddleback on my prosport "pop out" more
Looks better than their 12bore range, better dimensions easily, i had an sp as a rough gun/backup, as all new guns they are well spec'd for the money- multis, steel proofed and so on, great guns for beginners, second gun or just casual shooting, not built to last as a dedicated clay gun but you can't get that tooling/engineering for 600£
I believe both them and kofs do deluxe versions from around £900 or so seen a kofs one on the shelf and they do look nice not sure they are worth the extra pennies but maybe they are cheaper elsewhere
I would love to see you do a review of the Brenner BF18 if you can get it in the UK. Waffen Schumacher is the dealer in Germany who imports and distributes them. They seem very similar to this ATA and are marketed as a Silver Pigeon Copy. What I have heard is that they even use the Beretta trigger system, just with lower quality parts. Would love to see you do a review on it, Cheers thanks.
This Ata looks very similar to the Weatherby Orion we have in the USA in 12 ga. The Orion is also made by Ata. Are both the same gun? Another great video!
Interesting review. Until you mentioned it wasn't really a junior gun I had thought it would be a ideal first gun for my 13 year old boy. Oh well back to the drawing board on that one..... Still a nice gun though.
Hello master, I used classic shotgun and s.poze for a long time, and now I bought a y.automatic shotgun. It has a 12 diameter and a barrel chamber of 76mm. I went to the hunting dealer to buy 76mm cartridges for this rifle. I explained the situation. He said there is no 76mm cartridge. You can use 70mm cartridges. I was confused and said 70mm cartridges. I did not buy it and I am researching to see what is the truth and I want to ask you, my masters, the truth of the matter. Now my question is this: If you are using an automatic rifle, will the 70mm cartridge damage the 76mm chamber set of the barrel or not? Or, is steel shot or lead shot used? What are the details? I would be very grateful if you could answer me. I have not fired any cartridges in the rifle yet. I am waiting for this answer. Thank you very much in advance. Best regards.
Another great review. Seems absolute bargain. With the range of guns ata are making now the big brands will definitely start to feel the sales hit in the next few years . Hopefully they take a swipe at the sxs market . I'd buy one. Watched your previous ata reviews big brands better start paying you not to review them . 🙂
Looks reflect price; uninteresting wood, plane coated action that will mark and look tatty quickly. Best feature is the forend that looks a bit classier. What's the nasty orange thing under the bottom barrel ? ATA have large portion of the market mainly due to low price and new people coming to the sport on a budget but still want to buy new. Still, for a starter gun, good enough, but stay with the sport and you won't keep this one long.
Had my 12 bore in matte black for over two years now. The matte black finish does not mark up easily at all. I was worried it would but almost everything, other than a proper scratch, just seems to wipe of buff away. The orange thing under the barrell is just a clip on plastic logo for display. Pops straight off 👍
@@AdamLunn08 Same, no issues with scratching in 2,5 years of ownership. No intention to upgrade mine either. Best of all, ATAs annoy the gun snobs! The ‘should of brought a Beretta’ (sic) brigade also seem particularly annoyed when they produce their tatty old silver pig which still cost double, secondhand what an ATA costs new...
@@moodophile well I'm left handed and was having a little trouble finding something second-hand that fit. I do know what you mean about the gun snobs. Most people seem to know what they are now tho and the old 'lets see how long it lasts' thing is wearing out. Like this video says, they seem to be very reliable so far.
Give me an easy / plain to the eyes gun anytime....it has a job to do hitting CLAYS....BANG....bring it on, anything else is a distraction, and more importantly just their to BOOST the EGO..... BANG BANG ....I just had my first go at clay pitching shooting , intoxicating/ addictive / relaxing 14 hits 25 clays without the repetitive seeing where the clay is going.....glasses steaming up, don't know what I'm doing but adjusting......LOVED IT AND THEN SUUUUUUUUM ,as a professional artists esthetics is for the birds...give me knowledge/ technique / courage / go for it attitude, bye the way love All the videos especially ED SOLOMON , analysing /thoughtful covering all the bases ,breaking everything down even thou the terminologies are Strange...BANG ,another ONE BITES THE DUST ...bjm
There is no reason not to take care of your gun no matter the cost. Clean it don’t over oil and make sure it is dry. My guns didn’t cost a fortune but are worth plenty to me. Always good videos.
People need to stop being snobs/stuck in their old ways, and start to realise that these Turkish guns are fantastic. I would go as far as saying they are probably the best gun you can buy for the price they are selling at. £600 for a brand new gun of that quality is amazing. There are too many old folk in the UK shooting who need to learn how to move on from the old days.
Well said. Fear of the prices of their brand name guns dropping is the big reason most snobs put these modern built steel ready guns down. This 20 gauge shown here is simply a clone of a Beretta.
@@14goldmedals nowhere near a clone, copied ejectors and barrel/reciever but completely different internal action etc. Good guns for the money
I agree on most of that, i have an sp as a backup gun, excellent value for the money, i would argue a silver pigeon is well overpriced, in saying that these ata's are good but there is a decent difference in quality/tooling between it and entry level miroku etc , great entry level/ casual shooter, they won't last a lifetime of heavy clay shooting but for 600£ you can't get that level of engineering and materials, happily recommend them to anyone
Same stigma here in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
teamflanneloutdoors I see Savage now has a Turkish made Model 555 single barrel trap gun. Looks very nice and may be cheaper than a Browning BT-99 to get started in ATA trap.
My son has the ATA 12 bore & he outshoots me using near enough everytime, & has had no faults with it. It was plain to see that you were really quite impressed with that gun Jonny.
My man your editing has gotten so slick.
Jonny, I think you just showed me the gun I've been looking for to convince my wife to start clay shooting 😍😍 At £600, it's hardly a big risk even if she doesn't take to the sport - I'll make use of it if that ends up being the case 👍😆 - My now 18 month old ATA 12 bore has proven a great sporting shotgun for me
I've had an ATA in 12b for a few years now. I love it, I bought it on a bit of a punt as a second gun to my Browning 525. I no longer have the Browning, I just shoot better with the ATA and its never let me down. And I really don't regret that decision, the 525 just wasn't getting used. Dont get caught up in the whole badge snobbery thing.👍
Difference between badge snobbery and knowing quality- i have an ata as a rough gun/loan gun, shoots well enough, finish is good/for the money externally, looks ok but a browning 525 is a much better quality gun, that 525 would last forever with routine maintenance, these ata's are built to a budget, cheap steel, cheap coatings, wood is far from dense, they are built to a cost and are basically a use until dead then replace item, good cheap guns if fit well, horses for courses anyone who shoots volumes as in 250 a week will burn one out in no time
Greetings from America, I recently picked up an ATA arms 12 gauge for trap and skeet and like it a lot, I just wish you guys had the freedoms we do for owning ARs and other tactical cool guns
For a £600, it looks a very well put together package. I do like the look of this little gun.
I've just bought one of these for my 14 year old son and he loves it. Comes with an adjustable comb
Think this would suit my 14 year old daughter who's looking at getting into the sport,great video as always 👍
All of the reviews of ATA that I’ve seen is generally ‘it’s a very nice gun, not a beretta but then again it’s £600….’ I translate that to they are good guns that you need not spend another £1000 on. Video after video it’s the same. It seems to be just brand snobbery holding people back. I went and bought a 12g super sport can’t wait to get to know it.
There is no retail system in the USA for ATA. It's a shame, seems like great value.
You have the weatherby orion - the same gun just better wood and finished
@@MR12GAUGE costs more
Looks nice enough to me.
I see a few other mentions of Yildiz here, and yeah, I could see this ATA and the SPZ ME being the logical pair to proffer someone looking for a budget 20. Beretta-ish and sporter weight vs Rizzini-ish and light weight.
Maybe this ATA will inspire Yildiz to have a go at paring down the Prostar to 20 gauge...
I recently bought a Yildiz SPZ M20 for my young daughter, nothing but problems, now looking at an ATA Ladies 20 bore as I have 2 ATA 12 bores myself and they are great!
A good first Gun for anyone starting out in the sport ! Great price too .😊
Times are a changing !
Norfolk Paul👍
Would you rate this ATA over the Yildiz spz ?
My rating for o/u Turkish shotguns would be
1. Akus
2. Yıldız
3. Ata
Looks like a good value. Thanks for the review. Now shoot it for us!
Great review, and a lovely looking gun for the money. My ATA Supersport is a superb gun, I’ve given it some hammer and it’s never failed. I have, admittedly, gone to a 525 SL now but we shall see whether I can shoot as well with a “higher” marque. But I’m tempted here, very much so.
You mentioned you can touch up the wood very easily. is it just massaging a certain type of oil in?
Im wondering if I can make the grains and fiddleback on my prosport "pop out" more
Looks better than their 12bore range, better dimensions easily, i had an sp as a rough gun/backup, as all new guns they are well spec'd for the money- multis, steel proofed and so on, great guns for beginners, second gun or just casual shooting, not built to last as a dedicated clay gun but you can't get that tooling/engineering for 600£
has anything changed in the silenced shotgun market in the UK i need one possible video idea ? all the hushpower videos i can find are 7 years old ...
Seems to have remained pretty stagnant since then, apart from the Atec silencer
Brilliant review
Very nice for the price point thank you for the very professional review stay safe.👍👍👍
Bit of weird question here regarding aesthetics - if scratched, do the black parts (other than the barrel) reveal silver underneath...is it a coating?
There is a 28 and 30 available - what do you think Jonny?
Do they have an option for upgraded wood ? For like 1 or 2 hundred pounds?
I believe both them and kofs do deluxe versions from around £900 or so seen a kofs one on the shelf and they do look nice not sure they are worth the extra pennies but maybe they are cheaper elsewhere
Bought 12g SP1 black sporter adj last fall and are a happy camper😁
In Germany we know ata arms products as Brenner. And yes many people find them attractive.
Wonderful video, makes me want to run and buy an ATA 20 SP in my favourite gun store. Well done!
Seen on the ATA website there is a ‘combo’ model. Whats the difference with a ‘combo’ compared to a normal 12 bore SP?
The action is scale down?
Outstanding Review!
Which is the best and highest quality .. huglu or ata ????
Huğlu
Ата 👍👍🇹🇷😘❤
I would love to see you do a review of the Brenner BF18 if you can get it in the UK. Waffen Schumacher is the dealer in Germany who imports and distributes them. They seem very similar to this ATA and are marketed as a Silver Pigeon Copy. What I have heard is that they even use the Beretta trigger system, just with lower quality parts. Would love to see you do a review on it, Cheers thanks.
This Ata looks very similar to the Weatherby Orion we have in the USA in 12 ga. The Orion is also made by Ata. Are both the same gun? Another great video!
Identical mechanically
Ever do a Review on a CZ redhead premier over & under shotgun. Would sure like to hear your opinion, Thanks
ATA SUPERSPORT 12G you need to try if you can.
Bună ziua cum pot intra in posesia armei sînt din Romania?
How does this compare to the Wembley and scott 900B3?
Interesting review. Until you mentioned it wasn't really a junior gun I had thought it would be a ideal first gun for my 13 year old boy. Oh well back to the drawing board on that one..... Still a nice gun though.
A 13 year old kid should be able to handle a full sized shotgun, I shot my first bird with a full length mossberg 500
Any idea if there will be a 32 inch?
I own an ata sp 12 gauge, to me it feels better than my silver pigeon
Better as in better fit to you?
@@MR12GAUGE I like the feel of the forend better
I think this gun looks good. As a new hunter and explorer to the gun market, can you use this gun for pheasant shooting?
Why don't they sell SP in the USA?
ATA is very good brand..
How can I get 1
is it a true 20 bore .smaller them a 12 bore
Keep the cheap gun reviews coming! I personally dont mind using cheap guns because of my skill level and I really dont care if I scratch it.
Could you do a comparison with CZ and a couple other sub $1000 guns?
I own the 12G SP Sporter Adj. I can't fault it. The 20g will be equally as good
Me too, 911 and I'm more than happy with it.
Me too. Faultless
Have a weatherby Orion by ATA love it
can you get a 32" one?
30"bl ?
Please review Turkish Karal over under.
Karal is another good company, but not as good as ATA.
Karal tactical semi automatic is very good
Very nice
I’d like to see a .410 version !
Hello master, I used classic shotgun and s.poze for a long time, and now I bought a y.automatic shotgun. It has a 12 diameter and a barrel chamber of 76mm. I went to the hunting dealer to buy 76mm cartridges for this rifle. I explained the situation. He said there is no 76mm cartridge. You can use 70mm cartridges. I was confused and said 70mm cartridges. I did not buy it and I am researching to see what is the truth and I want to ask you, my masters, the truth of the matter. Now my question is this: If you are using an automatic rifle, will the 70mm cartridge damage the 76mm chamber set of the barrel or not? Or, is steel shot or lead shot used? What are the details? I would be very grateful if you could answer me. I have not fired any cartridges in the rifle yet. I am waiting for this answer. Thank you very much in advance. Best regards.
ATA or Yildiz?
Yıldız
Is that you David ?
Nice Gun For Cheap 😀 More People Can Enjoy The Sports That Would Not Otherwise Be Able To Afford a Parker or Beretta 😀😎😮😀👍🏼
Another great review. Seems absolute bargain. With the range of guns ata are making now the big brands will definitely start to feel the sales hit in the next few years . Hopefully they take a swipe at the sxs market . I'd buy one. Watched your previous ata reviews big brands better start paying you not to review them . 🙂
👏👏👏
It has better looking wood and finish than the dull looking Beretta 686 guns. Their wood the last few years is awful.
Looks reflect price; uninteresting wood, plane coated action that will mark and look tatty quickly. Best feature is the forend that looks a bit classier. What's the nasty orange thing under the bottom barrel ?
ATA have large portion of the market mainly due to low price and new people coming to the sport on a budget but still want to buy new. Still, for a starter gun, good enough, but stay with the sport and you won't keep this one long.
Had my 12 bore in matte black for over two years now. The matte black finish does not mark up easily at all. I was worried it would but almost everything, other than a proper scratch, just seems to wipe of buff away. The orange thing under the barrell is just a clip on plastic logo for display. Pops straight off 👍
@@AdamLunn08 Same, no issues with scratching in 2,5 years of ownership. No intention to upgrade mine either. Best of all, ATAs annoy the gun snobs! The ‘should of brought a Beretta’ (sic) brigade also seem particularly annoyed when they produce their tatty old silver pig which still cost double, secondhand what an ATA costs new...
@@AdamLunn08 Good to know. Are the internals coated too ? Difficult to tell from the video ?
@@johngregory8576 mostly and some jeweling (think is the correct term) where it hinges.
@@moodophile well I'm left handed and was having a little trouble finding something second-hand that fit. I do know what you mean about the gun snobs. Most people seem to know what they are now tho and the old 'lets see how long it lasts' thing is wearing out. Like this video says, they seem to be very reliable so far.
Looks ok. But the for end is soooooo ugly
Beretta 686 clone
No
@@tgsoutdoors very similar to the beretta 680 series
@@iz7qfx.89 closely copied reciever design, and ejectors but that is where it ends.
Give me an easy / plain to the eyes gun anytime....it has a job to do hitting CLAYS....BANG....bring it on, anything else is a distraction, and more importantly just their to BOOST the EGO..... BANG BANG ....I just had my first go at clay pitching shooting , intoxicating/ addictive / relaxing 14 hits 25 clays without the repetitive seeing where the clay is going.....glasses steaming up, don't know what I'm doing but adjusting......LOVED IT AND THEN SUUUUUUUUM ,as a professional artists esthetics is for the birds...give me knowledge/ technique / courage / go for it attitude, bye the way love All the videos especially ED SOLOMON , analysing /thoughtful covering all the bases ,breaking everything down even thou the terminologies are Strange...BANG ,another ONE BITES THE DUST ...bjm