I love the idea of having a single drawer dishwasher available - I only have small loads. I also think F & P is an excellent brand. I have a F & P refrigerator, and it's just the best.
We are using this dishwasher in a rental apartment. Three person family and the size works well. Design does not allow for larger bowls and pots but I have always done these by hand anyway. Run times are issues with all models. Maybe you could include that info in future dishwasher reviews.. We use the eco cycle to keep the run time at 35 minutes. Dishes come out clean and dry!!
Having a Double Drawer since 2021 - huge fan of the concept although getting them in continental Europe is a bit of hassle (only Series 9 available) and repair service is there but kinda expensive. Had one defect with the water softener just after the warranty ran out - which cost €268 to fix. Getting the right seller that also knows those machines is crucial, otherwise the installation will be though. The technician working on mine forgot to install the "high loop" so I had issues with used water running back into the machine, which I took care of myself. The machine is not made for plastic products since drying performance isn't that good, so it isn't perfect by all means, but I don't want to go back to a normal dishwasher. Hopefully F&P will extend their product range in Europe in the future. I would buy more from them.
I know three people who have this company's products. And they all hate it. It does not clean well and there have been serious issues with repairs. A quick glance with owner sanctification on any search engine will tell you more. It appears that it is installed in new spec homes more often than not. I am so glad that I have a Miele product. Cheers, Peter
F&P has a shorter life expectancy than a Bosch or Miele. What I noticed with my customers are, either they LOVED them or they HATED them. I like the ease of replacing the rotor assembly that the customer can do it but good luck getting them to.
Series 7 model was in our home when we bought it. Not a huge fan. I just can't seem to load it efficiently. I'll never understand why the flip-down racks are offered. Obviously water can't reach anything up there because those items are being blocked by the dishes seated below the racks. 🤨
I owned one before Haier took them over and just bought a replacement which I hope hasn't been diminished by the Haier takeover. GE has also been taken over by Haier and their 'Cafe' 2 drawer dishwasher is essentially the F&P unit with a different name on it. Both of these have the knock to open nonsense, which I find absurd. Let me knock on the head of the engineer who came up with that idea. Hopefully the $1600 double drawer unit I just purchased will be like the original one I bought many years ago. Hopefully.
@@YaleAppliance1 LoL of course it will get the job done, but is it excessive? Also, one thing people don't talk about with the FP drawers is if it has a top sprinkler head/spay arm or is it bottom sprayer only. Can you provide that information?
We purchased and got it installed on 10/2023. We bought the newest model for $2599. The one for $1699 had more plastic inside the drawers compared to the $2500. I haven't done much dishes, but I have to say that this dishwasher SUCKS at drying Tupperware. I wish there was an option to have a longer dry time. We also like to do dishes by hand and set it in the dishwasher to dry. It has horrible air circulation. Our old traditional did a lot better job drying then this. We've only done a handful of loads so far. For over $2599 I'd expect this to perform a lot better than our 12 yr old samsung.
The pronounciation is not "pay-kell." It's "pie-kl" ... akin to pickle. Proper pronounciation can be heard on videos produced by the company, go figure. My double-drawer unit was 20 years old on 8/21/2023. It has had a few repairs, all DIYed. I also have F&P washers (two, agitator and impeller) and the topload dryer with reversing tumble.
After checking out the Miele dishwashers at a local dealer, they just laughed when I asked about these dishwasher and said for me not to waste my time. 😅
I find Jewish people like them because of Passover . Great way to separate dairy and non dairy dishes. If I had to buy them ... I would like them side to side left to right. Or bar pantry. Possible outside barbeque. If applicable. Asko had a outside dishwasher for that purpose. Good washing . 👋💦🇺🇸
I love the idea of having a single drawer dishwasher available - I only have small loads. I also think F & P is an excellent brand. I have a F & P refrigerator, and it's just the best.
We are using this dishwasher in a rental apartment. Three person family and the size works well. Design does not allow for larger bowls and pots but I have always done these by hand anyway. Run times are issues with all models. Maybe you could include that info in future dishwasher reviews.. We use the eco cycle to keep the run time at 35 minutes. Dishes come out clean and dry!!
Having a Double Drawer since 2021 - huge fan of the concept although getting them in continental Europe is a bit of hassle (only Series 9 available) and repair service is there but kinda expensive. Had one defect with the water softener just after the warranty ran out - which cost €268 to fix. Getting the right seller that also knows those machines is crucial, otherwise the installation will be though. The technician working on mine forgot to install the "high loop" so I had issues with used water running back into the machine, which I took care of myself. The machine is not made for plastic products since drying performance isn't that good, so it isn't perfect by all means, but I don't want to go back to a normal dishwasher. Hopefully F&P will extend their product range in Europe in the future. I would buy more from them.
I know three people who have this company's products. And they all hate it. It does not clean well and there have been serious issues with repairs. A quick glance with owner sanctification on any search engine will tell you more. It appears that it is installed in new spec homes more often than not. I am so glad that I have a Miele product.
Cheers, Peter
I'm on my 3rd having just ordered another. Nothing you said is true. Two previous one's did better than any other I've owned, no matter the brand.
I want 2 of these, and just keep all my dishes in them!
F&P has a shorter life expectancy than a Bosch or Miele. What I noticed with my customers are, either they LOVED them or they HATED them. I like the ease of replacing the rotor assembly that the customer can do it but good luck getting them to.
My experience exactly....
Amazon has them for $99 all the time??!!
Series 7 model was in our home when we bought it. Not a huge fan. I just can't seem to load it efficiently. I'll never understand why the flip-down racks are offered. Obviously water can't reach anything up there because those items are being blocked by the dishes seated below the racks. 🤨
I owned one before Haier took them over and just bought a replacement which I hope hasn't been diminished by the Haier takeover. GE has also been taken over by Haier and their 'Cafe' 2 drawer dishwasher is essentially the F&P unit with a different name on it. Both of these have the knock to open nonsense, which I find absurd. Let me knock on the head of the engineer who came up with that idea. Hopefully the $1600 double drawer unit I just purchased will be like the original one I bought many years ago. Hopefully.
How do you feel about a Miele 7xxx series sink right and an 11 series single drawer sink left for party loads or for washing glassware only?
It will get the job done.....
@@YaleAppliance1 LoL of course it will get the job done, but is it excessive?
Also, one thing people don't talk about with the FP drawers is if it has a top sprinkler head/spay arm or is it bottom sprayer only. Can you provide that information?
Fisher and paykel are now owned by GE and they have already started shipping products under the GE cafe brand
Owned by Haier. GE is a different division.
No, both GE and F&P are owned by Haier. Sad but true.
First!
Now, can tou do a video of the drawe being loaded so we can see how it works
They aren’t the only double drawer. GE Cafe also has double drawers.
Made by......Haier owns both companies, BTW
We purchased and got it installed on 10/2023. We bought the newest model for $2599. The one for $1699 had more plastic inside the drawers compared to the $2500. I haven't done much dishes, but I have to say that this dishwasher SUCKS at drying Tupperware. I wish there was an option to have a longer dry time. We also like to do dishes by hand and set it in the dishwasher to dry. It has horrible air circulation. Our old traditional did a lot better job drying then this.
We've only done a handful of loads so far. For over $2599 I'd expect this to perform a lot better than our 12 yr old samsung.
As an old, fat, single person a Fisher & Paykel dish drawer is always the only option in my book. simply put, I ain't bending. 🤣🤣🤣
The pronounciation is not "pay-kell." It's "pie-kl" ... akin to pickle. Proper pronounciation can be heard on videos produced by the company, go figure. My double-drawer unit was 20 years old on 8/21/2023. It has had a few repairs, all DIYed. I also have F&P washers (two, agitator and impeller) and the topload dryer with reversing tumble.
Hung-Chow, is the correct new pronunciation due to recent move to China.
After checking out the Miele dishwashers at a local dealer, they just laughed when I asked about these dishwasher and said for me not to waste my time. 😅
Because the locals don't know their products? Laughter seems a lot like insecurity
Good review. It's pronounced Fisher and "Pie Kill".
Is it....I say PAYkel...You say PIEkill...
Well, Fisher Paykel originated in New Zealand and we pronoun Pie kill. But now owned by China so goodness knows how it is now pronounced
Now pronounced Hung-Chow (in chinese where their ownership resides now).
Ruth B Ginsberg had this model.
I find Jewish people like them because of Passover .
Great way to separate dairy and non dairy dishes.
If I had to buy them ...
I would like them side to side left to right.
Or bar pantry.
Possible outside barbeque.
If applicable.
Asko had a outside dishwasher for that purpose.
Good washing . 👋💦🇺🇸
@@Dwashwisewater I have mine in the bathroom so I can save water.