Is anyone else waiting for the moment when there is actually a full scale riot in NLs prison? I have a feeling it will be one of the best episodes ever.
*TIP OF THE DAY:* Want your workmen to move faster? Don't assign them jobs that are in the middle of a grassy field. Grass/dirt slows down everyone who walks on it. Notice how they zoom away when they walk on that small patch of paved pathway to the right of the piping area. *Bonus Tip:* Phone booths can be used to reduce a prisoner's "Family" need in place of visitation.
Or maybe just place staff doors to more easily access the right-side wing where the storage and workshop areas are. Same with the yard, how there's an area of dead space in the middle. He could totally add more doors for smoother transition.
Note about your ineffective Exports Area: There's a bug in the game, which makes it so only one exports area gets emptied by trucks; the most southern one in the map. Your exports area is split in two by a fence with a staff door, and unfortunately this is why all your goods in the northern area is never being picked up by trucks. The fix is easy: Simply make sure that you have only one exports area either by combining the two, or removing the smaller one. I've tested this myself, and can confirm that both the reason behind - as well as the fix for - it works. --- I originally posted about this a few episodes back, but here's a reminder. Hope it helps. :-)
BuzwellLP His prison's decent (in that it works relatively fine) but it is one of the most inefficient successful prisons I've seen on prison architect. Honestly, for me it's those hallways. Those god damn hallways...
Instead of eight hours of Sleep time you can schedule it as Free time instead. Prisoners will still sleep if they need to but they will take care of other needs as well.
Buy the area at the bottom and expand the max sec there. Also, where you want to build your visitation room, save some space for more solitary cells. At least 10 of them. You'll need them if you want to do another shakedown any time soon.
NL, one of the big reasons everyone congregates there is because there's no place to sit. Put down a bench table bench like you do in the cafe. And yes a pool table will help with entertainment :)
NL, first I want to congratulate you. There hasn't been a riot yet! If I had those small hallways in my prison, I would have lost already. Second, it might be a smart idea to make a new canteen + shower because there isn't any roon left in your old canteen. And last, to make the big money it might also be a good idea to expand your max security wing (do not forget to make nice comfy cells for legendary prisoners).
Hey NL! I think you should make that hallway that is parallel to the yard 2 wide by pushing out the wall into the yard. Everyone is being jammed up after chow, so they are getting no free time. I think that's why peoples needs are slowly bumping up.
Want to remove all the contraband that your ci's tell you without them dying? Mark all the cells with contraband with planning, deactivate the ci's and then search the cells. It takes a bit of time but it works
NL, considering your Armoury is guarded only by a staff door, you could get alot worse situations than a simple escape if any of your prisoners get their hands on staff keys.
Man... I don't even own this game and it's bothering me so much how ineffective this prison is. Get more guards, get bigger hallways, move showers up higher so they can actually get clean, put in more solitary, get bigger max security people... gah! This series started off good but now he's just expanding cells but not expanding anything else. I'm waiting for the day this prison burns to the ground.
NL please if you are reading this make sure that you change the staff door to the armory in the next recording batch, you will not have a fun time during an actual riot
Hi northernlion I enjoy your prison architect series very much :) have you ever played rimworld? Its another indie title in alpha very similar to prison architect only with a little less macro management and more storytelling ( be it a story of glory or one of utter disaster) I would love to see you try to survive in a western/scifi world with bandits,tribes or wild squirrels ( and more)
Seriously.. Stop expanding for med cells.. You need solitaries and max sec cells... Also, if you would start accepting max sec inmates, we could see legendary prisonners :)
Your valuation has went down probably due to the fact you have recently spent a lot on much expansion and haven't taken in many prisoners, therefore the valuation will go back up when you get more prisoners in.
All you have to do in prison architect is hope that you don't get a legendary prisoner with extremely volatile, extremely deadly and instigator. And yes I have been there before... he caused a fight with about 10 other max sec and ended up getting killed (I was soo happy). He also managed to kill 5 guards and dogs...
Are you kidding me? Dealing with legendaries is the most fun thing to do in this game. Watching him wreck guard after guard in his cellblock and running for the exit, just to be stopped by another 10 armed guards. In my opinion, allowing intake just for normal prisoners is boring as fuck. Its only fun while you are still learning the game.
Oh yeah also I think I made a huge mistake putting my legendary prisoners by the entrance... I was trying to keep them away from the others. But they always try to escape or dig tunnels sooo I think i'll move them the next time I play.
Wow... the game sure is starting to slow down... if you manage to complete all the things that you want to and then fully fill your prison then it's going to run really slowly... Also I don't understand why are you so scared about the "fearless" guys... they just aren't suppressed by armed guards... big deal
Is that what fearless does, heh? it seems that it might actually be good to put em back since they'd probably be better workshop workers. So, who goes into max? Deadly? There was a bit about instigators, someone said that they shouldn't mix with max and might even deserve Supermax.
Hussam Barouqa I usually go with deadly or guys with multiple traits. Anything below that usually doesn't want max security for me. Never mix instigators into you max population if that's where you put all the deadly guys. It'll turn into a slaughterhouse.
I dont care who is max sec or normal. I have a prison with separete cell blocks, but with common areas for both. Not a problem at all. Reaching almost 500 prisoners with ease. The problems come with the legendary prisoners. Thats when you set up a mini cell block just for them, isolated from the rest, just like you would do with protective custody. The super max cell block is where all the shit goes down. Legendaries can take a lot of hits from tazers and kill multiple armed guards if I have freefire off.
Yeah, that seems like a more efficient solution instead of having mini-prisons for each; Common areas could probably shared with ease using some basic regime management, or so it seems. Kinda like what NL was doing with the previous prison. But keeping cellblocks themselves segregated to avoid contact. Do Legendaries show up at all levels of security or just high security?
The developers should take as long as they need on this game, but I have a question, when is this game getting released? Its been in Early Access for a long time, I wanna jump into it, but I wanna do so when the game is finished(I do have it, I bought it in the most recent Humble Indie Bundle). I feel that if I jump into the game now as opposed to when the game is released, then I'll have to almost relearn the game. I'm not really asking for a specific date, but like can you give an approximation on how much longer? like "mid 2015" or whatever? at least if I have a vague idea of when its getting released, I can come back to the approximated time, and get a more specific date on when its getting released.
i agree, i'd buy it once complete, but it doesn't seem like introversion cares since they're making good money with just the "alpha". it's been out since 2012, 2 years later and they're still calling it alpha? cmon.
yeah again, they can take as long as they need to complete it just so long as they do continue developing the game. I wouldn't want them to release the game without anything unfinished, upon reading the forums, it looked like there are some things in the game right now that LITERALLY do nothing.
WHY are you expanding your prison when you have capacity to fill 77 cells? You should REALLY add more solitary and by more I mean about 20 solitary cells instead of one or two like you have been doing (make a solitary wing in the lower left corner) Expand your Max-Security wing. Where is the fun in this game if you are always playing it safe with cheesy med-sec prisoners. Your workers would have more free time to build stuff if you didn't have that stupidly large Forestry area
God I cringe so hard at the custom bios. Half of them are edgy teenagers with hacker or psycho fantasies, and the other half are kids who "were bullied for the last time" and mentally snapped. Most have typos or are poorly translated. Hopefully in a future update they at least fix the grammar and spelling errors.
I'm surprised his prison hasn't been burned to the ground yet. My first one was very similar to this and prisoners took it over when I had about 150-160 of them.
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Is anyone else waiting for the moment when there is actually a full scale riot in NLs prison? I have a feeling it will be one of the best episodes ever.
Its gonna be fast and awesome. Prisoners will just break the armoury staff door (lol) and get shotguns, from that point its gg.
*TIP OF THE DAY:* Want your workmen to move faster? Don't assign them jobs that are in the middle of a grassy field. Grass/dirt slows down everyone who walks on it. Notice how they zoom away when they walk on that small patch of paved pathway to the right of the piping area.
*Bonus Tip:* Phone booths can be used to reduce a prisoner's "Family" need in place of visitation.
Or maybe just place staff doors to more easily access the right-side wing where the storage and workshop areas are. Same with the yard, how there's an area of dead space in the middle. He could totally add more doors for smoother transition.
Note about your ineffective Exports Area:
There's a bug in the game, which makes it so only one exports area gets emptied by trucks; the most southern one in the map.
Your exports area is split in two by a fence with a staff door, and unfortunately this is why all your goods in the northern area is never being picked up by trucks.
The fix is easy: Simply make sure that you have only one exports area either by combining the two, or removing the smaller one.
I've tested this myself, and can confirm that both the reason behind - as well as the fix for - it works.
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I originally posted about this a few episodes back, but here's a reminder. Hope it helps. :-)
I'm glad to see this up as i've had the same issue. i've also had the same issue with adding an additional garbage area it's pointless, don't bother.
Welcome back, to the most inefficient prison to ever exist.
All about efficiency isn't it? He is playing the game better than I ever could.
well can you do it better ??? Acee Q CAN YOU ?!?!? But he need more guards like 10 ore so
ExtremeGamer9951 It is kind of, I can't make a prison as nice as he can, but it is horribly managed at times.
BuzwellLP His prison's decent (in that it works relatively fine) but it is one of the most inefficient successful prisons I've seen on prison architect.
Honestly, for me it's those hallways. Those god damn hallways...
Isaac Sorrels
Whats up with the hallways?
You had me refreshing your page every minute, I love this series.
Instead of eight hours of Sleep time you can schedule it as Free time instead. Prisoners will still sleep if they need to but they will take care of other needs as well.
Buy the area at the bottom and expand the max sec there. Also, where you want to build your visitation room, save some space for more solitary cells. At least 10 of them. You'll need them if you want to do another shakedown any time soon.
NL, one of the big reasons everyone congregates there is because there's no place to sit. Put down a bench table bench like you do in the cafe. And yes a pool table will help with entertainment :)
You allow prisoners in your delivery area the other episode. you need to set it for staff only
And you need to build that outer fence man...
Having "patrols" for workmen would probably be really nice, since (hopefully) they can just bucket method everything.
You need so many more solitary cells and guards.
NL, first I want to congratulate you. There hasn't been a riot yet! If I had those small hallways in my prison, I would have lost already. Second, it might be a smart idea to make a new canteen + shower because there isn't any roon left in your old canteen. And last, to make the big money it might also be a good idea to expand your max security wing (do not forget to make nice comfy cells for legendary prisoners).
Hey NL! I think you should make that hallway that is parallel to the yard 2 wide by pushing out the wall into the yard. Everyone is being jammed up after chow, so they are getting no free time. I think that's why peoples needs are slowly bumping up.
lol, that last minute twist was gold.
Hey northernlion, the inmates can use the large water pipes to help tunnel out
How can you even think for a second that your shower/canteen/infirmary/solitary space + number of guards is enough for so many prisoners? NL pls
I love how there were three prisoners with the last name 'Bray' in the first batch of prisoners he took
NL, just FYI, search all delivery trucks coming into your prison, 9/10 times they carry contraband in
Want to remove all the contraband that your ci's tell you without them dying? Mark all the cells with contraband with planning, deactivate the ci's and then search the cells. It takes a bit of time but it works
if you right click on a worker, you can tell him to do specific tasks by right clicking on them, there a bit weird about it so just trust them a bit
NL, considering your Armoury is guarded only by a staff door, you could get alot worse situations than a simple escape if any of your prisoners get their hands on staff keys.
Nice to see this still going :D
NL you need approx. 500.000 more guards
You should put down metal detectors on the entrance to each cellblock so you can catch more contraband.
Ah... Back to the exhausting of your canine squad.
finally did that shit with the workman yay for the dingus king
Man... I don't even own this game and it's bothering me so much how ineffective this prison is. Get more guards, get bigger hallways, move showers up higher so they can actually get clean, put in more solitary, get bigger max security people... gah! This series started off good but now he's just expanding cells but not expanding anything else. I'm waiting for the day this prison burns to the ground.
Switch the cells of protective and high security so you can expand the max security prision
NL please if you are reading this make sure that you change the staff door to the armory in the next recording batch, you will not have a fun time during an actual riot
Hi northernlion I enjoy your prison architect series very much :) have you ever played rimworld? Its another indie title in alpha very similar to prison architect only with a little less macro management and more storytelling ( be it a story of glory or one of utter disaster) I would love to see you try to survive in a western/scifi world with bandits,tribes or wild squirrels ( and more)
HEY, TO FIX THE TUNNEL, GO TO ONE OF THE BUILDING SECTIONS, I THINK UTILITIES, AND CHOOSE ROAD, PUT IT OVER THE SPOT.
Just buy 10 more workmen... they cost like nothing and help a lot...
you need more cooks and more serving tables
Seriously.. Stop expanding for med cells.. You need solitaries and max sec cells... Also, if you would start accepting max sec inmates, we could see legendary prisonners :)
Your valuation has went down probably due to the fact you have recently spent a lot on much expansion and haven't taken in many prisoners, therefore the valuation will go back up when you get more prisoners in.
I think he's expanding too quickly again...
All you have to do in prison architect is hope that you don't get a legendary prisoner with extremely volatile, extremely deadly and instigator. And yes I have been there before... he caused a fight with about 10 other max sec and ended up getting killed (I was soo happy). He also managed to kill 5 guards and dogs...
I also got another one with extremely deadly legendary but I just let him escape even when I knew he was digging.
He was in for another 25 years after killing one of my guards
Are you kidding me? Dealing with legendaries is the most fun thing to do in this game. Watching him wreck guard after guard in his cellblock and running for the exit, just to be stopped by another 10 armed guards.
In my opinion, allowing intake just for normal prisoners is boring as fuck. Its only fun while you are still learning the game.
Hahahaha yeah I guess it is fun and yeah I agree I have 250 max sec prisoners but when one volatile sets off like 30 other volatile prisoners set off.
Oh yeah also I think I made a huge mistake putting my legendary prisoners by the entrance... I was trying to keep them away from the others. But they always try to escape or dig tunnels sooo I think i'll move them the next time I play.
Wow... the game sure is starting to slow down... if you manage to complete all the things that you want to and then fully fill your prison then it's going to run really slowly...
Also I don't understand why are you so scared about the "fearless" guys... they just aren't suppressed by armed guards... big deal
Is that what fearless does, heh? it seems that it might actually be good to put em back since they'd probably be better workshop workers.
So, who goes into max? Deadly? There was a bit about instigators, someone said that they shouldn't mix with max and might even deserve Supermax.
Hussam Barouqa I usually go with deadly or guys with multiple traits. Anything below that usually doesn't want max security for me.
Never mix instigators into you max population if that's where you put all the deadly guys. It'll turn into a slaughterhouse.
Hussam Barouqa Deadly, instigators, volatile (especially with instigator to boot). Those 3/5 (deadly and volatile have extreme variants).
I dont care who is max sec or normal. I have a prison with separete cell blocks, but with common areas for both. Not a problem at all. Reaching almost 500 prisoners with ease. The problems come with the legendary prisoners. Thats when you set up a mini cell block just for them, isolated from the rest, just like you would do with protective custody. The super max cell block is where all the shit goes down. Legendaries can take a lot of hits from tazers and kill multiple armed guards if I have freefire off.
Yeah, that seems like a more efficient solution instead of having mini-prisons for each; Common areas could probably shared with ease using some basic regime management, or so it seems. Kinda like what NL was doing with the previous prison. But keeping cellblocks themselves segregated to avoid contact.
Do Legendaries show up at all levels of security or just high security?
wouldnt it be more logical to put everything you needprisoners to get to(canteen, kitchen,yard) in the center and build a ring of cells around?
Would you kindly play Endless Legend with Arumba and others?
when there dising they go in the toilet and disaper I think I saw someone go and then disaper
How come there were no prisoners on the spot when the tunnel was discovered?
The two prisoners were already several tiles away from the hole. They dug using hammers. :V
NL 1 cell costs about $520 not 1000
i like my prisoner count is lower yet i have more money coming in
8:10, on the road, escape tunnel anyone?
That has been there for a while now. He cannot fill it in since you cannot build on the road.
The developers should take as long as they need on this game, but I have a question, when is this game getting released? Its been in Early Access for a long time, I wanna jump into it, but I wanna do so when the game is finished(I do have it, I bought it in the most recent Humble Indie Bundle). I feel that if I jump into the game now as opposed to when the game is released, then I'll have to almost relearn the game. I'm not really asking for a specific date, but like can you give an approximation on how much longer? like "mid 2015" or whatever? at least if I have a vague idea of when its getting released, I can come back to the approximated time, and get a more specific date on when its getting released.
the best too ask would be de defs, but of course they cant just say "mid2015"
because If they don't, suddenly everyone will just throw hate at them
i agree, i'd buy it once complete, but it doesn't seem like introversion cares since they're making good money with just the "alpha". it's been out since 2012, 2 years later and they're still calling it alpha? cmon.
yeah again, they can take as long as they need to complete it just so long as they do continue developing the game. I wouldn't want them to release the game without anything unfinished, upon reading the forums, it looked like there are some things in the game right now that LITERALLY do nothing.
are we close to the 1 million dollar prison? im ready to sell this bad boy lol
More Workmen please.
Sometimes i wonder how your brain is working.
Hygiene is also laundry.
16:37 hahahahahah cs fun boy xddd runing faster with a knefe.... lel
Shouldn't he have made a larger infirmary by now?
hire more guards!
Your prison looks like a microchip...
make akchocl class!!!! pleaseee and try to make the informury biger for the drug class you need it
WHY are you expanding your prison when you have capacity to fill 77 cells?
You should REALLY add more solitary and by more I mean about 20 solitary cells instead of one or two like you have been doing (make a solitary wing in the lower left corner)
Expand your Max-Security wing. Where is the fun in this game if you are always playing it safe with cheesy med-sec prisoners.
Your workers would have more free time to build stuff if you didn't have that stupidly large Forestry area
God I cringe so hard at the custom bios. Half of them are edgy teenagers with hacker or psycho fantasies, and the other half are kids who "were bullied for the last time" and mentally snapped. Most have typos or are poorly translated. Hopefully in a future update they at least fix the grammar and spelling errors.
Inb4 301 club
OHH FFS NL EXPAND YOUR MAX AREA ALREADY!!!!
simmer down sir
You are the reason youtubers ignore there own comments section :p
Man, this is so repetitive, this series it's so boring. I can't wait for Prison Architect: Rebirth for some variety.
Really, I find it to be rather pleased by this series as a whole.
Its repetivive because he just takes in normal sec prisoners. Their behavior is extremely predictable and boring.
WTF I'm a sack you
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Came before first minute
I'm proud of you
i hear there is therapy for that.
Ha ha :-)
... like watching the videos, but damn thats a piss poor layout now, I'm just waiting for the riots...btw deactivate your CI's
I'm surprised his prison hasn't been burned to the ground yet.
My first one was very similar to this and prisoners took it over when I had about 150-160 of them.