Exactly. Just because someone becomes famous, just because they look good, just because they're talented, it doesn't mean they are a good person, but people THINK they are. Their fans see no wrong in anything they do.
Thank you! Finally someone with sense. Doja has shown time and time again, who she is, people are just now listening because she's not playing along with them. These fans trying to be saviors. It's like sweetie, she knows exactly what type of man he is, and she doesn't care.
I remember when it was considered crazy to be a stan of someone. Hence the song "Stan" by Eminem. Now these fan bases openly obsess over their faves and attack their rivals on social media. It's really sick.
I know people my age aren't immune to this, but I am glad that the people in my circle don't Stan anyone. We like their music, might go to a concert, but we not out here acting like they can't do any wrong or they aren't just humans. Some people act like these people aren't human just because they see them on tv, sometimes.
She didn’t like they called her feet to the carpet and tried to deflect. She is most definitely weaponizing the parasocial conversation to get the heat off her. Before she started talking about that she was blocking anyone mentioning what her man did.
I’ll never forget her being on live complaining about having 4c hair (yes I hate the hair typing system but that’s what she used to described her own hair)
@@BooDotBoo because her fans kept trying to make it seem like she was just expressing her dating preferences but it was much more than that, shes just gross all around.
Someone mentioned something important in relation to Doja, she clearly dislikes her fans being all up in her business but she literally LIVES on the internet. She's always tweeting, doing lives (& tiny chats), she fueled these relationships by constantly interacting with her fans, even to an unhealthy extent. The solution to this problem is so simple she should just hire someone to handle her social media and logoff. Yes her fans need to understand boundaries but at the end of the day that is the price of fame. She isn't the first celebrity to go through this ND unfortunately she won't be the last, but she should learn from her peers ND take a step back. At the end of the day those stans have made her what she is and it's gonna bite her in the ass when her records don't sell.
I watched ONE of her lives because I happened to be online and it popped up. She was on there talking to people like they were her best friends, it was too weird to me. She created this issue, now upset about it. Stop being online so much. We all know some people live online and create these weird ties to people, I feel like she's done the same, honestly, with her fans, but when she does stuff people don't like, then she wants everyone to respect her privacy, LOL
@@BooDotBoo far too much hypocrisy with her…like telling people to get jobs and put down their phones Coming from her?! That’s why part of me thinks this all must be a big troll session, because it lacks sense 😂😂
@@BooDotBoo Isn't that true for most people who engage their followers on their pages. Doja just happens to be a celebrity who likes to have her cake and eat it too. Somehow, she didn't get the memo that she's now in the rank of celebrities.
I agree with her when it comes to parasocial relationships and treating the artist you support as some untouchable god/goddess that you know personally, when you don’t. I have a huge problem with Stan culture. But there are people who support her who see her latest behavior and actions as quite odd, and she can’t handle the criticism. She is hanging out with a really questionable person to say the least, and she’s lashing out at people who would defend her. tbh this whole ordeal shows why worshiping celebrities is such a bad thing to do.
@@757Princess So, she's sort of creating the issue she's upset about? Interesting... Now, her comments about going to be alone make sense, BUT it still won't erase the issues she's created. She should just take a page out of the book from some other celebs; they post relevant things about themselves (tours, albums drops, merch drops, appearances, movies, etc), might even post a meme or two every now and again, drop some pictures, might make a post about supporting some recent hashtag or something, but other than that, they stay quiet. I like celebs who move that way, tbh. I don't want or need to know about them like that.
Her response is completely annoying, bc her fans know she doesn’t know them, and when a celebrity says they love their fans we know what they mean, so her talking about it so literally is ridiculous. She’s rude, and I don’t think there is a problem with stanning someone’s art, but worshipping strangers shouldn’t go further than that bc these ppl can make great art and still be mean.
I agree. She knew damn well what they meant. 😑 She just wanted to play dumb and be nasty. It’s just upsetting because a lot of her fans are young and there’s a good chance that she was talking with a child like that. I remember when Michael Jackson spoke about the time he caught Madonna being rude to a fan and he checked her on the spot in front of everyone. You can have boundaries. But don’t disrespect the people who love your work enough to spend their last dime on your concerts/albums. At the end of the day, the labels use the fans’ perception of you in order to gage whether or not they should drop you. Maybe Doja is self-sabotaging because she wants to go back to being normal. That’s valid. But she shouldn’t take it out on other people, especially young people who are very emotionally fragile. That’s what made me lose respect for her.
She wants to push yall away so she won't be popular anymore, thus no sales and attention, thus no marketing, ultimately get out of the contract and be free from public. I won't be going to her tour cause of this.
@@weslyn1021lol but that’s backhanded tho like she stated she’s not forcing y’all to. You can’t say that to hold over celebrities heads. Y’all will never own them love it or hate it
Never forget one the most famous parasocial relationships that turned into a “real” friendship: Selena and Yolanda. I will NEVER hold it against a celebrity who is not playing with y’all.
I did lol.. n I guess you could also say decline in popularity instead 🤷🏽♀️ Only because she literally is moving like a regular person who really does and says what she feels Theyon like that , they like to be able to control their artist
Her fans need to remember that Doja is an entertainer, not their friend or family member. She has always done questionable things. She has to suffer the consequences if her popularity declines.
@@Angel_AuraaThat's your one friend out of millions of people. There are many people put there who are overly obsessed with celebrities and it has escalated since the rise of social media. Your one friend being normal doesn't mean there isn't a problem to be addressed.
i can't listen to "ain't shit" by doja either. it feels fake to me like she's literally saying niggas ain't shit in a literal sense lol not in an anecdotal sense
Doja been struggling, people just overlooked it cause she's conventionally attractive and talented. Having certain privileges can make people have blindspots about your character apparently coughs at *summer walker*
All of this doja stuff really makes me glad I gave up on stan culture many years ago. I used a be a very hardcore koreaboo back in 2014 for a good 3-4 years to the point where the first thing I would think off when I wake up in the morning Is these boybands that sell characteristics and personalities for coins. then a switch just happened and I realized that these celebrities ain't worth drooling over when I got my own issues to deal with. I think that a lot of people tend to forget that these celebrities live in a completely different reality from us regular folk. Not to say that celebrities can't be genuinely good ,down to earth people but at the end of the day when you accumulate millions and millions of dollars your no longer a regular common folk and your attitude towards life and people in general changes and usually not for the better I still do like celebrities and follow them to a certain degree but the days of heavy stanning on social media are long gone and I feel alot better that I did
Artist are not exempt from or above reproach. The same way we get these "karens" fired or cancel certain businesses. We expect those whom lifestyle we fund to maintain a certain moral guideline.
I think certain celebrities are actively manipulative. I may be popping a tendon with the reach, but the extreme end of this type of dynamic can turn nasty fast (thinking of Ballinger and various other characters, certain fanbases having legal action being filed against them because of the alleged encouragement to engage in hate campaigns, etc.). Public figures being able to just enter people’s dms, sometimes vulnerable people, has always felt iffy to me because of the power dynamics. They attract and court some seriously obsessive behaviour, which is part and parcel of such high investment and attachment. Society needs to catch up and fast, I feel like we’re still behind on internet phenomena even though it’s been a part of daily life for 2 decades.
You're not reaching. Doja is mentally disturbed and has attracted, among others, other mentally disturbed people. Because she is into humiliation, it stands to reason that she could be into humiliating others as well, people who may be on a ledge that she could push off. Not everyone just goes one way. A person like her should not have a fanbase. She needs therapy, not fame.
I don’t think you’re reaching either. You only touched on it at the end, but the ratio of media literacy is incredibly low compared to the media consumed. At some point, we have to tip from simply consuming for fun (we’re already knee deep in info-tainment that gets chaotic) to actually understanding what’s happening TO US with the media we consume. And I’m defining “media” here as the actual definition: the plural/multiple mediums of sharing/consuming info & content (not “the media” as in news outlets). Media literacy is what I was studying for my masters degree, so this is all super interesting (and concerning).
Good conversation wrong scenario. Doja cat is deflecting hard. She was blocking people who mentioned her man and what he did. She is rightfully being called to the carpet and using parasocial relationships to get away from talking about him grooming.
@kyahbridges457 Maybe it's because she's NOT Black.! Just because you have a dusty ninja as a papi don't make you Black. She's not Black. She's biracial.
Exactly. She is a whole WW to me. I don't see anything black about her AT ALL. And we already know that some WW got a bakery in the back too. Folks don't like to admit it, but it's the truth. If I'd never been told she has some African blood, I'd have just thought she was a WW. And I feel the same way about Ice Spice aside from the curly hair. I'd have thought Ice was a white Latina. Same with Meghan Markle. None of them are BW, and that's FINE. People just need to learn to stop trying to claim them. They're not my kin. If you're not at least 80% black and look it, don't call me 'sister.' I said what I said.
Doja cat points are valid but she can hire a social media handler if she doesn’t want to see the criticisms/hate or just interact with fans. Her next album really has to be something special or I see her getting the boot. The industry will replace her w someone more likable.
@@SWISHGODD She doesn't have to be good, just popular. That's how Doja blew up into the mainstream, is she talented yes, but she's popular because people can make dances to her music on tik tok.
@@SWISHGODD Where did I say she's not talented? I said talent does not equate success, especially in today's current music industry. Everyone is on Ice Spice right now, like they were on Dojo back in 2020, the same with Megan and Cardi a couple years ago. If Doja falls off, Spice whether you like it or not will be her replacement for a couple years until the next girl comes along. And Doja doesn't have the discography for people to continue to stick with her like they do with Nicki despite her problematic history.
This Doja Brat situation is so interesting, because it’s a lesson in how the relationship between an artist and their fanbase is symbiotic, you can’t reach a certain level without significant public support. Now 800k people have apparently unfollowed her on Instagram, the public are realising their power Yes her comments about not loving people she doesn’t know are valid, yet days before she was tweeting ‘love you guys!’ When talking about her upcoming tour. The same fandom name she lambasted her fans for, is one she has chosen for them previously. Telling people to get jobs and put down phones is ludicrous, coming from someone who is constantly online, being an overgrown troll. Too much hypocrisy and inconsistency. Denigrating people for liking your previous music, is a self drag rooted in feelings of inadequacy and wanting to be accepted and validated by music snobs/purists. It’s actually quite sad, because you can tell most of this is misdirected anger and she’s really mad at her label. And if she is doing all this to lose support, it’s definitely working 🤷🏾♀️
No, she wasn't wrong but, her response was very rude and off-putting. It's not what you say but, how you say it. For a year now, I've been noticing how emotionally unintelligent she is (for ex. with that "Stranger Things" kid, Noah Schnapp).
Right!!! Without the tan, she's a white looking woman. She came out of the womb of a whole white women. At best....people she call her biracial because that is what the hell she is. I don't even consider Halle Berry as Black. That's another Biracial woman.
The thing is Doja could've just said nothing. The same thing about not knowing people applies to literally all celebs and their fan base. It's not about knowing them.
She rlly shouldn’t have said anything but she loves attention and she’s chronically online so everything someone says about her she will probably see it
Sometimes it’s better to just hush 🤐 and keep it pushing. She made herself look worse and kinda nasty by talking down on her supporters. I hope her stans also take this a reminder that one should never worship another human being. Lessons should be learned from this on all parts.
All the “fandoms” are a little off if you know what I mean 🥴🫠🤷🏾♀️😂😂 it’s even crazier if you over let’s say 25 and you’re calling yourself a name from a fandom 😂
She has been problematic so I really don't get the fuss. She has shown y'all who she is and y'all steady kissing her behind. So just stop the fussing and accept it like y'all do when it comes to everything else about her cause clearly getting off her d isn't an option smh.
Justin. I’m happy you are focused on your content. I like it when u explain it well detailed and straight to the point. I like this Justin. Very smart man!
I think her fans….should leave her alone…literally then she will not have to worry about it…no fans…no notoriety….and she can go on and do something else 😊
Dis woman gonna do what she wanna do. I don't consider her "one of us." She's in a different realm. And dont even like herself. But that's a whole nutha conversation...
Most celebrities want to maintain their luxury lifestyle so they gonna be quiet and focus on the bag. This girl needs a nap and a good lawyer to get her out those contracts cause she knows that's what she wants. Her acting out may be her knowing shes a slave to those contracts and is binded by them untill she fulfills them. It's sad that she has to go to these lengths like the carlie girl to get out of a bad situation.
My thing with this is, and this is with all Celebs, when you’re a celebrity, you have fans that are interested in other aspects of your life. When you’re dating someone, people are gonna want to know where this person came from and the background of the person. Not to be bring other artist into it, but it’s the same with Nicki. Her own fans went and dug up her husband’s past and it’s been a mess ever since. You can love whoever you wanna love, BUT if something about your partner’s past comes out, don’t get upset if you’re questioned about it.
Well she is aware of them (her fans)... she's right that she doesn't know them, but she IS aware, they pay her bills. Her label wouldn't let her forget about them.😂
I get she doesnt know fans but she should love them in a appreciative way for the support and she doesnt have to say love you on a personal level.. Just in a thankful way of saying thank you for being part of her success.
The thing about Doja is she have used her parasocial relationship to her advantage. She was the one who named her fanbase and three days before the mess, she told them that she loved them…and it was the first time. She’s inconsistent and is incredibly rude. I feel like people who aren’t even a casual fan won’t understand the full issue. This man she’s dating have targeted her own fans and when they tried reaching out to her, she blocked them. That’s why Doja is losing fans. Not just because of her attitude but because of her fling back and forth with the fans. This time she went too far. I get she doesn’t want to be famous but it’s a thing about respect for another human being which she clearly does not care about.
it's sad when folks let their personality defects keep them from big success. and she IS successful, but her ego is gonna end it all if she doesn't do better
It’s possible to have a healthy connection with your fanbase but she doesn’t realize the stuff that she does is WHY folk come at her sideways. Like girl okay the fans owe you nothing but you online moving weird infront of millions of followers… what do you expect?
“I don’t owe y’all anything” that’s true what Doja said. But it can also go both ways- if you don’t appreciate your fans they also don’t owe it to you to keep listening and streaming your music. Aaaand eventually she will be broke. The choice is hers
Parasoxial relationships are really weird however we should be shaming someone who is with a gr0omer and $hitting on their fans who provide they lifestyle, I do think it’s so messed up, doja only bringing it up cause she getting called out
The I don’t know y’all thing was weird to me. Obviously she doesn’t personally know each one of them individually but they’re the reason she’s famous. And considering how many people already don’t like her (myself included) because of the chatroom thing, you would think she would be nicer to them.
She comes across as a girl in high school who wants to be edgy so bad so she says things like I only listen to older music because everything today sucks. I feel like I was born in the wrong era.
No, everything today does not suck. When y'all say this, y'all out yourselves as lazy. If you have any streaming service, the music out now is actually INCREDIBLE. But you actually have to look beyond Top 40 crap. And even the Top 40 has a bop or two, so y'all be exaggerating. Also, expand your palette. Are you only listening to American music? Listen to music from all over the world. Music is awesome right now, but if you limit what you listen to, you're just loud and wrong.
@@mielissa100ify I read the comment, and I agree with SoWhat. You obviously aren't going outside of a specific sphere if ALL the music you hear is bad. And being born in the wrong "era" stuff is always speak for "I know nothing about those times except the nostalgic, good stuff, not any of the bad stuff, so I'm romanticizing it". Don't get mad because that other comment read you correctly, lol. I love older music, even all the way back to the 50s black rock and roll, but find plenty of new stuff that sounds similar or better, so maybe expand what you listen to.
@@BooDotBoo genius I was saying that that’s the vibe that Doja Cat gives out because she always wants to seem edgy and against was popular lately… Nobody read me and clearly you didn’t read it correctly
good for the fans, she doesn't have to do anything for her "fans" but the fans don't have to support her. People get dragged every single day ...she is not exempt. Periodt.
Uh-uhhhh, don't give her a pass on a-hole behavior. She's the one that kept constantly telling her fans I love you, I love you. Then when they ask if she loves them it's "I don't know y'all". She's the one getting mad at her fans and degrading them for calling themselves Kittens when she literally posted a pole asking them to give themselves a name because she felt wrong naming them herself and gave them the option of Kittens or Cubs. That was all her doing. Now she wants to act the azz bc her fans are doing what she had them do?? Nahhh, uh-uh. Yes, stay out of her personal life sure, but the rest of that mess she's been spouting is foolishness.
I kinda wish we can go back to the times where we didn’t know artists of any kind in such an intimate way. It takes away so much from their artistry to know that they are disgusting a vile human beings. Ugh
I just paused the video to say I’m so glad you said that if you went back to school, you would choose psychology and sociology. I switched my major to Psychology and I’m so much happier. I loved studying the human brain, and our behaviors since I was a child. I’m also taking a sociology class, and I feel like these subjects go hand in hand.
She's just rude. I don't think one celebrity out here is breaking up with their boyfriend because we told them too. Seriously. It's expected for fans and just ppl in general to have strong opinions about an artist. But most artists with any sense simply don't respond and carry on with their lives as usual. She's been making these types of comments for awhile now. It's simply unnecessary and mean spirited.
I love you touch on these topics.. Codependency on famous and trending individuals existence is increasing especially during Covid.. That series SWARM is going to be a reality soon. People are going to start hurting others because of their STAN titles and belief these people are truly their friends. HOWEVER Doja needs to gain balance in being famous as well🤷🏾♀️
The whyte peen worship from Doja Cat is wild to me. Let’s start there 😂. Also, I think she has the right to express her upset with her fans not respecting her boundaries. However, I still can’t get my head around trashing her fans for liking her previous albums. I can understand that music labels will make you create music that you otherwise wouldn’t create, and there is a valid space for criticism there however, criticizing your fans for liking your music is weird to me. In my opinion, Doja Cat needs to slowly, but surely remove herself from her current online presence, and there is still time to do that in my opinion, but that’s up to her.
What Doja choses to do in her personal life doesn't bother me, it's not my business. I think he should be held to the fire for what his been accused of! But as far as Doja goes I can't lie I get & agree with where she is coming from what I don't like is that there is ways to say or go about things & Doja is not doing that, & to me, is coming across very nasty &, to me, resentful towards her fans after benefitting so much because of the fanbase she grew through her music. If that makes any sense at all!
I think how hard you went at keke Palmer bc of her man but going soft on Doja is crazy. You should probably think why you have more smoke for the dark skinned woman with a shit man than the mixed woman with a shit man
Great point about being programmed to have parasocial relationships. It’s very easy to dismiss fans as being losers and having no life, but that’s the lazy conversation that celebrities like to engage in.
I wasn’t even surprised by this stuff with Doja because she’s always been like this. I’ve never thought she was a good person, I just genuinely enjoy her music. I think she’s really talented but she’s also an asshole and a bit of a d*ckhead lol. I need fans to realize that these celebrities are not and never will be our friends. I think this is a right message wrong messenger situation because what she’s saying is true but she’s literally only saying this now because she doesn’t like what the fans are saying about her relationship. I think more celebrities do need to come out and explain to these fans that their “relationships” with them are not real and that they’re just here to entertain and that’s it because Stan culture is dangerous and disgusting.
Celebrities culture is slowly dying with this stupidity of fans & social media. Dojo Cat is not wrong what she says about she doesn’t know her fans. Because she never hang out with her fans. Dojo Cat is those people who don’t give a F*ck about anyone else but herself. However, She is real about herself. Dojo Cat is weirdo but she know she is a weird woman with a quirky personality. That’s why people like her or envy her because she is herself without being fake.
Or celebs were never all that good and social media is exposing them. Which is fine, because they're just people. Fans aren't at fault for that, the fans aren't making them say or do stupid things, but fans do need to stop expecting celebs to be something they aren't, they are just human like everyone else. And they aren't all good people.
My honest opinion is that Doja is just being honest. She doesn’t LOVE her fans because she don’t know them personally, she thinks it’s weird that they call themselves “kittens” that’s just what she thinks. her posts may be rude but she’s being straight forward. I do think she’s doing too much with her wording like she’s being unnecessarily blunt and not realizing she’s dragging the same people who made her rich and famous and I think she’s taking it for granted. Like there’s a way to give your opinion without mocking your own fans her behavior is weird like misdirected anger
Doja has been exhibiting all the signs of somebody with ADD or ADHD(not quite Bi-polar like Kanye) since the beginning, and it's surprising to me that after all this time that she or anybody around her still don't seem to be aware of this even with all the information that's available out there. Her use of substances became a coping mechanism, but I also think that her lack of maturity and common sense play a part in this. Since she exhibiting a lot of Alpha behavior it maybe hard for anybody around her to have enough guts to call her out.
I absolutely love how really huge stars do not talk to their fans or people online at all lol… Beyoncé literally pays everybody dust and just do her craft. 😎 Doja should do the same.
Is media training still a thing… because influence is a manipulative thing. Looking aback especially on sitcom’s the people would emulate behavior that they idolized. But, hey, if people are willing to be impressionable let them. Idk idk🤷🏽♀️ it’s a lot. It’s like we’re witnessing the downfall of America. It’s wild.
I think she wants to have the antihero fame if Azealia Banks(which is ironic cause Azealia Banks right now is trying to have her ACTUAL fame, which she NEVER will(while at the same time having the megastar hero fame of Beyoncé. But theres an obvious huge biracial struggle aspect ro this mixed in with being raised in an all white environment. Doha Cat basically cosplays as a weird black girl and immediately takes off her costume as soon as the cameras stop.
I don’t worship anyone however I was a big fan of hers since she was on SoundCloud and I gave her so much grace because I feel we all have things that we could work on especially with her being biracial I chalked up to low self esteem, but her lashing out at those that support her and dating a pedo is unacceptable and I just can’t stand with her anymore. I hate that this went down while she’s touring I really wanted to see her. I had to throw away my doja shirts smh it’s so sad she’s spiraling
It speaks to a bigger issue of celebrity /idol worship but Doja Cat just a weird person in general. She’s only speaking against parasocial relationships/Stan culture because she was being called out for a questionable but personal life choice she’s making but when it was benefiting her positively (selling millions of records, etc) she had nothing to say lol that’s the hypocrisy of the situation. She literally gave her fans the name that she’s criticizing them for embracing. That’s like Nicki Minaj and Cardi B telling the Barbz and Bardigang that their losers with no life for calling themselves that lol
It’s telling to me, as a biracial woman, that she so clearly hates her blackness [she was raised in a white environment by alternative “Hindu” white people] and consistently chooses white men who are objectively beneath her, less attractive, less successful, bad people 😂 as someone coincidentally who also raised by white Hindus, though in England, it’s extra obvious to me. Very sad, I find her capitulating to stereotypes of white mum mixed kids and not unpicking her anti blackness at her big age both infuriating and frustrating.
She has given me bad vibes in the last year or so. Some fans think she’s just doing a “bit”. Nah, she just doesn’t like y’all. Also she’s always been anti black. I’ve never felt like she was with bothhhh sides of her heritage. Didn’t she say she would never be with a black man.
@@SWISHGODD Girl, what are you on? Your comments all over this video are sending me, lol. You seem like someone who just hates black men, and who is probably antiblack, just like Doja, so you feel a need to defend her. You can date who you want, but Doja dates from self hate just like the black men you're talking about. It's just weird you're over here being angry at BLACK WOMEN for calling Doja out. Go yell at black men or something because you obviously have big issues with them. Having a "preference" is weird no matter who it is, tbh.
Doja obviously doesn’t have to say “I love y’all” and mean it in the same way that people mean when they say it to friends and family, but the fact that she can’t even just simply say those 3 words and keep it pushing just shows how nasty her personality is.
@@nobodae3296 It is that serious to her she does not want to say it to random strangers online who demands it because they listen to her music. She does not owe them that at all. It is weird as hell.
@@_Kim_Possible I can understand not wanting to say ily to strangers but she can’t say she appreciates her fans? Sure it’s their choice to support her and buy/stream her music but that choice benefits her so she can’t say thank you at least?
@@_Kim_Possible If a person can’t just say “I love y’all” to fans in an appreciate way and keep it pushing they are weird and that’s that. And nobody was demanding it. The fan page was just asking and Doja responded rudely. And I’m sure they definitely don’t want to hear it from her now.
@@latia7139 She has said thank you in the past. People suffer from parasocial relationships with celebrities so they conflate "I love you" with Doja "thanking them".
She’s wrong, end of story. Celebs have been around for over 100 years😂 and have to deal with fans that “love” them. Doja has never even had a stalker or anyone that has crossed the line and invaded her personal space so for her to act like it’s weird for a fan to say they love an artist is beyond me. There are different types of love and from what I saw none of her fan’s approached or even crossed the line of fandom, Imagine if ppl like Tom Cruise or Angelina Jolie responded to fans like this. Then she had the nerve to say her last 2 albums were cash grabs, her fans are stupid and she’ll chill on an island with ppl she actually loved 🤨 stop defending this goofy, rude and yes talented little girl who has a chip in her shoulder. How can someone that beautiful, talented, and rich be this miserable. It confirms that a lot of ppl who have more than 99% of us are just ungrateful sad beings.
@@sagedill5993 everything I said was pure factual outside of knowing if she had a stalker, however I’m sure if she did we would know like all other celebrities, once it hits the media and the file restraining orders. You can see the videos for yourself. She has a chip on her shoulder as she has stated several times she hates her hair texture and it’s because she’s mixed race. It’s hard to assume anything about someone who goes on the internet and constantly talks about her life. If you want to keep making excuses and ignore who she is showing you she is, that’s on you but I believe ppl when they show me who they really are.
Celebs have been around for thousands of years, actually. But most of the younger entertainers obviously have no media training. Say what you will about Tom Cruise, but I remember one time on a red carpet a guy sprayed water in his face or something like that, pranking him, and even though Tom was clearly angry, he chided the man in a way where you could find no fault in the response. Tom's a weirdo too, but he had to be recorded low-key (like when he ranted about people on-set not following COVID regulations) to catch him going off, and even then it was justified. He doesn't hop on social media talking out of pocket. Neither does Beyoncé. Because they have the maturity and training to know better. These people act like they're Mozart or Da Vinci or something when they're just p-ssy popping pop stars. Like, I know media changes, but sit down somewhere. And I'd say that about my faves unless they were god-tier in multiple disciplines.
Parasocial relationships are crazy to me like do you see how people defend Selena Gomez almost like they know her. Her team has capitalized off of parasocial relationships so well to the point that I it should be studied
I was saying this over at another channel. It’s not our business. We may not like it, but it’s her life. Let her wreck it as roughly as she wants. I personally could care less. Love the music, but not the person
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Y’all ever think maybe Doja just isn’t a good person and doesn’t care
Exactly. Just because someone becomes famous, just because they look good, just because they're talented, it doesn't mean they are a good person, but people THINK they are. Their fans see no wrong in anything they do.
@@BooDotBoo exactly she may genuinely not care about what he has done in the past or see nothing wrong with it
Thank you! Finally someone with sense. Doja has shown time and time again, who she is, people are just now listening because she's not playing along with them.
These fans trying to be saviors. It's like sweetie, she knows exactly what type of man he is, and she doesn't care.
Most celebrities aren't good people
These people will go great lengths to defend her- it’s so weird
I remember when it was considered crazy to be a stan of someone. Hence the song "Stan" by Eminem. Now these fan bases openly obsess over their faves and attack their rivals on social media. It's really sick.
They need guidance from someone they know personally
I know people my age aren't immune to this, but I am glad that the people in my circle don't Stan anyone. We like their music, might go to a concert, but we not out here acting like they can't do any wrong or they aren't just humans. Some people act like these people aren't human just because they see them on tv, sometimes.
Somebody needs to let the Barbs know! 😂
@@You_TroII And the Swifties, and the Arianators, and the Yesus, and especially those Army people. 😂
Parasocial relationships are out of control but I think she's weaponizing that fact to be as needlessly cruel as possible.
i agree. i genuinely think she gets a kick out of being unlikeable. she’s a literal troll
She didn’t like they called her feet to the carpet and tried to deflect. She is most definitely weaponizing the parasocial conversation to get the heat off her. Before she started talking about that she was blocking anyone mentioning what her man did.
You’re not considering the extreme cruelty she’s been the target of
@@Iamlove918 worse than dating a groomer and alleged rapist.
I’m not defending him .
Shes always been antiblack and a female incel weirdo but people kept making excuses, now shes telling yall who she is, believe people the first time.
Yep, and wasn't this pointed out a long time ago? So why are people surprised now?
what has she does that incel like?
🎯🎯🎯
I’ll never forget her being on live complaining about having 4c hair (yes I hate the hair typing system but that’s what she used to described her own hair)
@@BooDotBoo because her fans kept trying to make it seem like she was just expressing her dating preferences but it was much more than that, shes just gross all around.
Someone mentioned something important in relation to Doja, she clearly dislikes her fans being all up in her business but she literally LIVES on the internet. She's always tweeting, doing lives (& tiny chats), she fueled these relationships by constantly interacting with her fans, even to an unhealthy extent. The solution to this problem is so simple she should just hire someone to handle her social media and logoff.
Yes her fans need to understand boundaries but at the end of the day that is the price of fame. She isn't the first celebrity to go through this ND unfortunately she won't be the last, but she should learn from her peers ND take a step back. At the end of the day those stans have made her what she is and it's gonna bite her in the ass when her records don't sell.
She gets off on the attention, but if she can't always feel like she's above them, being worshipped, she's not interested.
I watched ONE of her lives because I happened to be online and it popped up. She was on there talking to people like they were her best friends, it was too weird to me. She created this issue, now upset about it. Stop being online so much. We all know some people live online and create these weird ties to people, I feel like she's done the same, honestly, with her fans, but when she does stuff people don't like, then she wants everyone to respect her privacy, LOL
@@BooDotBoo far too much hypocrisy with her…like telling people to get jobs and put down their phones
Coming from her?! That’s why part of me thinks this all must be a big troll session, because it lacks sense 😂😂
@@BooDotBoo Isn't that true for most people who engage their followers on their pages. Doja just happens to be a celebrity who likes to have her cake and eat it too. Somehow, she didn't get the memo that she's now in the rank of celebrities.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin Lol Where did you come up with that one?
I agree with her when it comes to parasocial relationships and treating the artist you support as some untouchable god/goddess that you know personally, when you don’t. I have a huge problem with Stan culture. But there are people who support her who see her latest behavior and actions as quite odd, and she can’t handle the criticism. She is hanging out with a really questionable person to say the least, and she’s lashing out at people who would defend her.
tbh this whole ordeal shows why worshiping celebrities is such a bad thing to do.
The Stan culture for Doja is heightened because she is so accessible from going live so often
@@757Princess So, she's sort of creating the issue she's upset about? Interesting...
Now, her comments about going to be alone make sense, BUT it still won't erase the issues she's created. She should just take a page out of the book from some other celebs; they post relevant things about themselves (tours, albums drops, merch drops, appearances, movies, etc), might even post a meme or two every now and again, drop some pictures, might make a post about supporting some recent hashtag or something, but other than that, they stay quiet. I like celebs who move that way, tbh. I don't want or need to know about them like that.
Her response is completely annoying, bc her fans know she doesn’t know them, and when a celebrity says they love their fans we know what they mean, so her talking about it so literally is ridiculous. She’s rude, and I don’t think there is a problem with stanning someone’s art, but worshipping strangers shouldn’t go further than that bc these ppl can make great art and still be mean.
A lot of them fans don’t. I don’t think you understand the level of delusion Stans have. 😊
I agree. She knew damn well what they meant. 😑 She just wanted to play dumb and be nasty.
It’s just upsetting because a lot of her fans are young and there’s a good chance that she was talking with a child like that. I remember when Michael Jackson spoke about the time he caught Madonna being rude to a fan and he checked her on the spot in front of everyone. You can have boundaries. But don’t disrespect the people who love your work enough to spend their last dime on your concerts/albums.
At the end of the day, the labels use the fans’ perception of you in order to gage whether or not they should drop you.
Maybe Doja is self-sabotaging because she wants to go back to being normal. That’s valid. But she shouldn’t take it out on other people, especially young people who are very emotionally fragile. That’s what made me lose respect for her.
@@Raben542but that percent of fans isn’t that high you can check ppl like that without disrespecting anyone
@@LoneWulf278exactly. She knew damn well what they meant she just wanted an excuse to be needlessly cruel and rude
@@izzy350 It says a lot about her character.
I think she could have addressed the situation in a better way. You can express a point and not be insulting.
She wants to push yall away so she won't be popular anymore, thus no sales and attention, thus no marketing, ultimately get out of the contract and be free from public. I won't be going to her tour cause of this.
Especially to the people who are paying your bills at the end of the day. Fame is a 2-way street
@@60wwedivayep!
@@weslyn1021lol but that’s backhanded tho like she stated she’s not forcing y’all to. You can’t say that to hold over celebrities heads. Y’all will never own them love it or hate it
@@60wwediva Is that truly the only and/or best way to get out of her contract? I need an entertainment lawyer on this.
Never forget one the most famous parasocial relationships that turned into a “real” friendship: Selena and Yolanda. I will NEVER hold it against a celebrity who is not playing with y’all.
Doja Cat being the cause of her own downfall is something I never thought I’d see
This isn’t a downfall. Don’t be a bot lol
I did lol.. n I guess you could also say decline in popularity instead 🤷🏽♀️
Only because she literally is moving like a regular person who really does and says what she feels
Theyon like that , they like to be able to control their artist
@@Honeyyhazellemon agreed, I should have specified that
It’s pretty on brand TBH
I feel it’s intentional
Her fans need to remember that Doja is an entertainer, not their friend or family member. She has always done questionable things. She has to suffer the consequences if her popularity declines.
Her popularity will not decline. They will continue to support her.
Um my friend who Doja attacked on Threads has a literal husband and a son. She isn’t “parasocial” towards Doja. Doja Is shitting on actual fans.
Like actual fans. Not just parasocial weirdos. Not haters.
Doja got her influence from appealing to fans and building parasocial relationships w/ her eccentric personality. But now it has gone too far.
@@Angel_AuraaThat's your one friend out of millions of people. There are many people put there who are overly obsessed with celebrities and it has escalated since the rise of social media. Your one friend being normal doesn't mean there isn't a problem to be addressed.
Doja isn’t wrong about parasocial relationships, but her being in those Tiny chats and her man is WRONG
Bro she was on TinyChat just this week
I agree with you entirely
Sidenote. Your hair looks good Justin!
i can't listen to "ain't shit" by doja either. it feels fake to me like she's literally saying niggas ain't shit in a literal sense lol not in an anecdotal sense
I think it’s odd that it seems like niggas is being turned to mean all men when (at least to me) has always meant black men
@@thepriceisright048 same, to me it'll always mean black men. not ALL men
It's crazy because she's never been with a black guy
Her fans don't know her ..good music doesn't make u a good person..she will look back on this and regret it
No she won't unfortunately people will still praise her and act like none of these things have happened
Her transformation over the years is scary to watch.
It's a straight up downward spiral
Her mask just fell off, that's all.
Doja been struggling, people just overlooked it cause she's conventionally attractive and talented.
Having certain privileges can make people have blindspots about your character apparently coughs at *summer walker*
All of this doja stuff really makes me glad I gave up on stan culture many years ago.
I used a be a very hardcore koreaboo back in 2014 for a good 3-4 years to the point where the first thing I would think off when I wake up in the morning Is these boybands that sell characteristics and personalities for coins.
then a switch just happened and I realized that these celebrities ain't worth drooling over when I got my own issues to deal with. I think that a lot of people tend to forget that these celebrities live in a completely different reality from us regular folk. Not to say that celebrities can't be genuinely good ,down to earth people but at the end of the day when you accumulate millions and millions of dollars your no longer a regular common folk and your attitude towards life and people in general changes and usually not for the better
I still do like celebrities and follow them to a certain degree but the days of heavy stanning on social media are long gone and I feel alot better that I did
Artist are not exempt from or above reproach. The same way we get these "karens" fired or cancel certain businesses. We expect those whom lifestyle we fund to maintain a certain moral guideline.
I think certain celebrities are actively manipulative. I may be popping a tendon with the reach, but the extreme end of this type of dynamic can turn nasty fast (thinking of Ballinger and various other characters, certain fanbases having legal action being filed against them because of the alleged encouragement to engage in hate campaigns, etc.). Public figures being able to just enter people’s dms, sometimes vulnerable people, has always felt iffy to me because of the power dynamics. They attract and court some seriously obsessive behaviour, which is part and parcel of such high investment and attachment.
Society needs to catch up and fast, I feel like we’re still behind on internet phenomena even though it’s been a part of daily life for 2 decades.
I can see it and don't think you're reaching. I can imagine it's a topic that's being researched and written about tbh
You're not reaching. Doja is mentally disturbed and has attracted, among others, other mentally disturbed people. Because she is into humiliation, it stands to reason that she could be into humiliating others as well, people who may be on a ledge that she could push off. Not everyone just goes one way. A person like her should not have a fanbase. She needs therapy, not fame.
I don’t think you’re reaching either. You only touched on it at the end, but the ratio of media literacy is incredibly low compared to the media consumed. At some point, we have to tip from simply consuming for fun (we’re already knee deep in info-tainment that gets chaotic) to actually understanding what’s happening TO US with the media we consume. And I’m defining “media” here as the actual definition: the plural/multiple mediums of sharing/consuming info & content (not “the media” as in news outlets). Media literacy is what I was studying for my masters degree, so this is all super interesting (and concerning).
Your not reaching..you made valid points
Good conversation wrong scenario. Doja cat is deflecting hard. She was blocking people who mentioned her man and what he did. She is rightfully being called to the carpet and using parasocial relationships to get away from talking about him grooming.
@@SWISHGODD I’m a black woman 😂
@@SWISHGODDGirl you're in the wrong chat, if you want to engage in the online gender wars wait for another video 😅😅😅😅
@@SWISHGODDwhat are you even talking about girl 😭
she views herself more as a yt woman than anything!
And is clearly obsessed with mediocre yt men
Her relationship with blackness has always been hella problematic. Ion like it 😒
She's a weirdo then let her think that
@kyahbridges457 Maybe it's because she's NOT Black.! Just because you have a dusty ninja as a papi don't make you Black.
She's not Black. She's biracial.
Exactly. She is a whole WW to me. I don't see anything black about her AT ALL. And we already know that some WW got a bakery in the back too. Folks don't like to admit it, but it's the truth. If I'd never been told she has some African blood, I'd have just thought she was a WW. And I feel the same way about Ice Spice aside from the curly hair. I'd have thought Ice was a white Latina. Same with Meghan Markle. None of them are BW, and that's FINE. People just need to learn to stop trying to claim them.
They're not my kin. If you're not at least 80% black and look it, don't call me 'sister.' I said what I said.
It's amazing to see your growth as a person! Although we may not know you, your displayed growth is inspiring and felt! Have a beautiful week!
Doja is showing her mean white woman streak.
Doja cat points are valid but she can hire a social media handler if she doesn’t want to see the criticisms/hate or just interact with fans.
Her next album really has to be something special or I see her getting the boot. The industry will replace her w someone more likable.
Ice Spice is already the next big thing. ET's latest song tanked, so yeah.
@@SWISHGODD She doesn't have to be good, just popular. That's how Doja blew up into the mainstream, is she talented yes, but she's popular because people can make dances to her music on tik tok.
@@SWISHGODD Where did I say she's not talented? I said talent does not equate success, especially in today's current music industry. Everyone is on Ice Spice right now, like they were on Dojo back in 2020, the same with Megan and Cardi a couple years ago. If Doja falls off, Spice whether you like it or not will be her replacement for a couple years until the next girl comes along. And Doja doesn't have the discography for people to continue to stick with her like they do with Nicki despite her problematic history.
@@SWISHGODD Like I said, you don't have to accept it.
@@elizabethchint2391 I don’t put doja and ice spice in the same category for some reason. I see doja has more pop/ rnb. Then ice spice strictly rap
This Doja Brat situation is so interesting, because it’s a lesson in how the relationship between an artist and their fanbase is symbiotic, you can’t reach a certain level without significant public support. Now 800k people have apparently unfollowed her on Instagram, the public are realising their power
Yes her comments about not loving people she doesn’t know are valid, yet days before she was tweeting ‘love you guys!’ When talking about her upcoming tour. The same fandom name she lambasted her fans for, is one she has chosen for them previously. Telling people to get jobs and put down phones is ludicrous, coming from someone who is constantly online, being an overgrown troll. Too much hypocrisy and inconsistency. Denigrating people for liking your previous music, is a self drag rooted in feelings of inadequacy and wanting to be accepted and validated by music snobs/purists.
It’s actually quite sad, because you can tell most of this is misdirected anger and she’s really mad at her label. And if she is doing all this to lose support, it’s definitely working 🤷🏾♀️
No, she wasn't wrong but, her response was very rude and off-putting. It's not what you say but, how you say it. For a year now, I've been noticing how emotionally unintelligent she is (for ex. with that "Stranger Things" kid, Noah Schnapp).
When y’all go learn that Doja a white girl with dark skin? She was raised by her white mother, enjoy her music and stop expecting too much from her
Right!!! Without the tan, she's a white looking woman. She came out of the womb of a whole white women.
At best....people she call her biracial because that is what the hell she is.
I don't even consider Halle Berry as Black. That's another Biracial woman.
I agree that she's a WW. But I don't even see her as having "dark skin." She's just "a WW with a dark following" to me.
How about: stop expecting much from celebrities in general!? Most of them are like this, but some are just more honest about it
@@LadyAstarionAncunin I meant dark as in she’s obviously a woman of color yet you are what your mother is. She was raised with a white mindset
@@snowylove2002 I agree with that too.
I am not a fan of anyone.... humans are weird and scary
The thing is Doja could've just said nothing. The same thing about not knowing people applies to literally all celebs and their fan base. It's not about knowing them.
Exactly lol her fans don’t know her either 😂😂 you should be happy strangers are supporting you 🤦🏽♀️
She rlly shouldn’t have said anything but she loves attention and she’s chronically online so everything someone says about her she will probably see it
Sometimes it’s better to just hush 🤐 and keep it pushing. She made herself look worse and kinda nasty by talking down on her supporters. I hope her stans also take this a reminder that one should never worship another human being. Lessons should be learned from this on all parts.
All the “fandoms” are a little off if you know what I mean 🥴🫠🤷🏾♀️😂😂 it’s even crazier if you over let’s say 25 and you’re calling yourself a name from a fandom 😂
She has been problematic so I really don't get the fuss. She has shown y'all who she is and y'all steady kissing her behind. So just stop the fussing and accept it like y'all do when it comes to everything else about her cause clearly getting off her d isn't an option smh.
Justin. I’m happy you are focused on your content. I like it when u explain it well detailed and straight to the point.
I like this Justin. Very smart man!
Doja Cat told us who she was when she was in chat room with white supremacists. Fans acting outraged now is really comical.
Nah you just mad, she is too real and is not kissing your ass for likes.
@@laylah150She wouldn’t throw you a line if you were drowning.
I think her fans….should leave her alone…literally then she will not have to worry about it…no fans…no notoriety….and she can go on and do something else 😊
Dis woman gonna do what she wanna do. I don't consider her "one of us." She's in a different realm. And dont even like herself. But that's a whole nutha conversation...
More celebs need to shake their Stans back to reality..
she needs to shake herself too, shes dating a r@cist p3dophile and blocking his victims online.
Most celebrities want to maintain their luxury lifestyle so they gonna be quiet and focus on the bag. This girl needs a nap and a good lawyer to get her out those contracts cause she knows that's what she wants. Her acting out may be her knowing shes a slave to those contracts and is binded by them untill she fulfills them. It's sad that she has to go to these lengths like the carlie girl to get out of a bad situation.
@@kindred42 maybe, but pushing away her fans isnt the way, shes not helping herself at all
My thing with this is, and this is with all Celebs, when you’re a celebrity, you have fans that are interested in other aspects of your life. When you’re dating someone, people are gonna want to know where this person came from and the background of the person. Not to be bring other artist into it, but it’s the same with Nicki. Her own fans went and dug up her husband’s past and it’s been a mess ever since. You can love whoever you wanna love, BUT if something about your partner’s past comes out, don’t get upset if you’re questioned about it.
Well she is aware of them (her fans)... she's right that she doesn't know them, but she IS aware, they pay her bills. Her label wouldn't let her forget about them.😂
She just needs to go away from us with this since she doesn’t want to be famous or held accountable for dating that trash man. Goodbye
I get she doesnt know fans but she should love them in a appreciative way for the support and she doesnt have to say love you on a personal level..
Just in a thankful way of saying thank you for being part of her success.
She needs true help and a reality check... known of her since 2013 and did not expect this at all.
The thing about Doja is she have used her parasocial relationship to her advantage. She was the one who named her fanbase and three days before the mess, she told them that she loved them…and it was the first time. She’s inconsistent and is incredibly rude. I feel like people who aren’t even a casual fan won’t understand the full issue. This man she’s dating have targeted her own fans and when they tried reaching out to her, she blocked them. That’s why Doja is losing fans. Not just because of her attitude but because of her fling back and forth with the fans. This time she went too far. I get she doesn’t want to be famous but it’s a thing about respect for another human being which she clearly does not care about.
it's sad when folks let their personality defects keep them from big success. and she IS successful, but her ego is gonna end it all if she doesn't do better
Only person who’s opinion I actually care about on this subject. Thank you.
We in here 🙌🏾🔥♥️🙌🏾🔥♥️
I’ve been waiting on this!
It’s possible to have a healthy connection with your fanbase but she doesn’t realize the stuff that she does is WHY folk come at her sideways. Like girl okay the fans owe you nothing but you online moving weird infront of millions of followers… what do you expect?
“I don’t owe y’all anything” that’s true what Doja said. But it can also go both ways- if you don’t appreciate your fans they also don’t owe it to you to keep listening and streaming your music. Aaaand eventually she will be broke. The choice is hers
Exactly
Damn and i really wanted to go to her upcoming tour. Curious to see how it will effect sales.
Parasoxial relationships are really weird however we should be shaming someone who is with a gr0omer and $hitting on their fans who provide they lifestyle, I do think it’s so messed up, doja only bringing it up cause she getting called out
The I don’t know y’all thing was weird to me. Obviously she doesn’t personally know each one of them individually but they’re the reason she’s famous. And considering how many people already don’t like her (myself included) because of the chatroom thing, you would think she would be nicer to them.
Regardless of Doja having a point or not. Which on some level, she does have a fait point. She's literally going about this in a horrible way.
She comes across as a girl in high school who wants to be edgy so bad so she says things like I only listen to older music because everything today sucks. I feel like I was born in the wrong era.
No, everything today does not suck. When y'all say this, y'all out yourselves as lazy. If you have any streaming service, the music out now is actually INCREDIBLE. But you actually have to look beyond Top 40 crap. And even the Top 40 has a bop or two, so y'all be exaggerating. Also, expand your palette. Are you only listening to American music? Listen to music from all over the world.
Music is awesome right now, but if you limit what you listen to, you're just loud and wrong.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin what???? Did you read the comment
@@mielissa100ify I read the comment, and I agree with SoWhat. You obviously aren't going outside of a specific sphere if ALL the music you hear is bad. And being born in the wrong "era" stuff is always speak for "I know nothing about those times except the nostalgic, good stuff, not any of the bad stuff, so I'm romanticizing it". Don't get mad because that other comment read you correctly, lol. I love older music, even all the way back to the 50s black rock and roll, but find plenty of new stuff that sounds similar or better, so maybe expand what you listen to.
@@BooDotBoo genius I was saying that that’s the vibe that Doja Cat gives out because she always wants to seem edgy and against was popular lately… Nobody read me and clearly you didn’t read it correctly
Ppl have to learn, just because someone is talented doesnt make them a good person.
good for the fans, she doesn't have to do anything for her "fans" but the fans don't have to support her. People get dragged every single day ...she is not exempt. Periodt.
Uh-uhhhh, don't give her a pass on a-hole behavior. She's the one that kept constantly telling her fans I love you, I love you. Then when they ask if she loves them it's "I don't know y'all". She's the one getting mad at her fans and degrading them for calling themselves Kittens when she literally posted a pole asking them to give themselves a name because she felt wrong naming them herself and gave them the option of Kittens or Cubs. That was all her doing. Now she wants to act the azz bc her fans are doing what she had them do?? Nahhh, uh-uh. Yes, stay out of her personal life sure, but the rest of that mess she's been spouting is foolishness.
Ooooooh I've been waiting for this!! Can't wait to hear what you have to say about this situation!!
I preferred the Trauma, Casual, No Police, Doja, this one isn't the real her. I don't think she wants the fame anymore 😕
I kinda wish we can go back to the times where we didn’t know artists of any kind in such an intimate way. It takes away so much from their artistry to know that they are disgusting a vile human beings. Ugh
I just paused the video to say I’m so glad you said that if you went back to school, you would choose psychology and sociology.
I switched my major to Psychology and I’m so much happier. I loved studying the human brain, and our behaviors since I was a child.
I’m also taking a sociology class, and I feel like these subjects go hand in hand.
I agree but look at who she's dating and comfortable around that tiny chat
She's just rude. I don't think one celebrity out here is breaking up with their boyfriend because we told them too. Seriously. It's expected for fans and just ppl in general to have strong opinions about an artist. But most artists with any sense simply don't respond and carry on with their lives as usual. She's been making these types of comments for awhile now. It's simply unnecessary and mean spirited.
I love you touch on these topics.. Codependency on famous and trending individuals existence is increasing especially during Covid.. That series SWARM is going to be a reality soon. People are going to start hurting others because of their STAN titles and belief these people are truly their friends. HOWEVER
Doja needs to gain balance in being famous as well🤷🏾♀️
You're late, it's been happening for decades. It's just not super common.
The whyte peen worship from Doja Cat is wild to me. Let’s start there 😂. Also, I think she has the right to express her upset with her fans not respecting her boundaries. However, I still can’t get my head around trashing her fans for liking her previous albums. I can understand that music labels will make you create music that you otherwise wouldn’t create, and there is a valid space for criticism there however, criticizing your fans for liking your music is weird to me. In my opinion, Doja Cat needs to slowly, but surely remove herself from her current online presence, and there is still time to do that in my opinion, but that’s up to her.
@@SWISHGODD child peen worship is weird in general but Doja is slightly obsessive with whyte peen.
@@SWISHGODD Miss diverstor. You need to either chill out or log off
@@SWISHGODD Um, you really channelling Doja, I'll say that, lol.
You not talking about the barbs? Cause the barbs as a whole drug Kenny to filth. A lot of the, still hate him to this day.
Exactly. They dragged Nicki too. Keep the same energy with everyone
Social media has just learned the term “Parasocial” relationships and have taken off lmaoo. The lady don’t wont bother. Let her flop.
Doja may be having mental health issues
What Doja choses to do in her personal life doesn't bother me, it's not my business. I think he should be held to the fire for what his been accused of! But as far as Doja goes I can't lie I get & agree with where she is coming from what I don't like is that there is ways to say or go about things & Doja is not doing that, & to me, is coming across very nasty &, to me, resentful towards her fans after benefitting so much because of the fanbase she grew through her music. If that makes any sense at all!
I think how hard you went at keke Palmer bc of her man but going soft on Doja is crazy. You should probably think why you have more smoke for the dark skinned woman with a shit man than the mixed woman with a shit man
He does that ALOT. I use to watch his videos heavy. But I noticed some hypocrisy..
Great point about being programmed to have parasocial relationships. It’s very easy to dismiss fans as being losers and having no life, but that’s the lazy conversation that celebrities like to engage in.
I wasn’t even surprised by this stuff with Doja because she’s always been like this. I’ve never thought she was a good person, I just genuinely enjoy her music. I think she’s really talented but she’s also an asshole and a bit of a d*ckhead lol. I need fans to realize that these celebrities are not and never will be our friends. I think this is a right message wrong messenger situation because what she’s saying is true but she’s literally only saying this now because she doesn’t like what the fans are saying about her relationship. I think more celebrities do need to come out and explain to these fans that their “relationships” with them are not real and that they’re just here to entertain and that’s it because Stan culture is dangerous and disgusting.
OMG!! Your actually talking about on what i tagged you on Instagram...THANK YOU!!👏🏽
Yep! My first year of nursing school is almost over and my concentration is mental health. It is very interesting to me
Celebrities culture is slowly dying with this stupidity of fans & social media.
Dojo Cat is not wrong what she says about she doesn’t know her fans. Because she never hang out with her fans.
Dojo Cat is those people who don’t give a F*ck about anyone else but herself. However, She is real about herself.
Dojo Cat is weirdo but she know she is a weird woman with a quirky personality. That’s why people like her or envy her because she is herself without being fake.
Or celebs were never all that good and social media is exposing them. Which is fine, because they're just people. Fans aren't at fault for that, the fans aren't making them say or do stupid things, but fans do need to stop expecting celebs to be something they aren't, they are just human like everyone else. And they aren't all good people.
She was never real
I find myself trying to not get attached to these mf simple as that
My honest opinion is that Doja is just being honest. She doesn’t LOVE her fans because she don’t know them personally, she thinks it’s weird that they call themselves “kittens” that’s just what she thinks. her posts may be rude but she’s being straight forward. I do think she’s doing too much with her wording like she’s being unnecessarily blunt and not realizing she’s dragging the same people who made her rich and famous and I think she’s taking it for granted. Like there’s a way to give your opinion without mocking your own fans her behavior is weird like misdirected anger
Whats ironic to me is the same people who are canceling Doja for being with w predator be defending Nicki being w her husband
It’s not the same fan base….
You better preach. It boggles my mind.
Nah, both of them are a mess.
@@rubyh6190 Alot of Doja fans are also barbs too lets not act stupid
im sorry, your facial expressions on the intro be having me weeeeak lolol
Doja has been exhibiting all the signs of somebody with ADD or ADHD(not quite Bi-polar like Kanye) since the beginning, and it's surprising to me that after all this time that she or anybody around her still don't seem to be aware of this even with all the information that's available out there. Her use of substances became a coping mechanism, but I also think that her lack of maturity and common sense play a part in this. Since she exhibiting a lot of Alpha behavior it maybe hard for anybody around her to have enough guts to call her out.
I absolutely love how really huge stars do not talk to their fans or people online at all lol… Beyoncé literally pays everybody dust and just do her craft. 😎 Doja should do the same.
Is media training still a thing… because influence is a manipulative thing. Looking aback especially on sitcom’s the people would emulate behavior that they idolized. But, hey, if people are willing to be impressionable let them. Idk idk🤷🏽♀️ it’s a lot. It’s like we’re witnessing the downfall of America. It’s wild.
I think she wants to have the antihero fame if Azealia Banks(which is ironic cause Azealia Banks right now is trying to have her ACTUAL fame, which she NEVER will(while at the same time having the megastar hero fame of Beyoncé. But theres an obvious huge biracial struggle aspect ro this mixed in with being raised in an all white environment. Doha Cat basically cosplays as a weird black girl and immediately takes off her costume as soon as the cameras stop.
I don’t worship anyone however I was a big fan of hers since she was on SoundCloud and I gave her so much grace because I feel we all have things that we could work on especially with her being biracial I chalked up to low self esteem, but her lashing out at those that support her and dating a pedo is unacceptable and I just can’t stand with her anymore. I hate that this went down while she’s touring I really wanted to see her. I had to throw away my doja shirts smh it’s so sad she’s spiraling
It speaks to a bigger issue of celebrity /idol worship but Doja Cat just a weird person in general. She’s only speaking against parasocial relationships/Stan culture because she was being called out for a questionable but personal life choice she’s making but when it was benefiting her positively (selling millions of records, etc) she had nothing to say lol that’s the hypocrisy of the situation. She literally gave her fans the name that she’s criticizing them for embracing. That’s like Nicki Minaj and Cardi B telling the Barbz and Bardigang that their losers with no life for calling themselves that lol
It’s telling to me, as a biracial woman, that she so clearly hates her blackness [she was raised in a white environment by alternative “Hindu” white people] and consistently chooses white men who are objectively beneath her, less attractive, less successful, bad people 😂 as someone coincidentally who also raised by white Hindus, though in England, it’s extra obvious to me. Very sad, I find her capitulating to stereotypes of white mum mixed kids and not unpicking her anti blackness at her big age both infuriating and frustrating.
Yeah, Doja has a lot of self hate issues, and that's very clear. I feel bad for her for that, but her actions around it, are completely on her.
@@BooDotBoototally 100% hard agree. Too old to not take ownership.
Nah yall just mad Doja Cat doesnt claim black and doesnt blackfish like 80% of biracials.
@@BooDotBoo
How is it self hate? She isnt black, she is biracial. Why do yall insist on shoving blackness down mixed people's throat
Johnny Utah was kinda cool though, this one.....😬
babyyyy w a quickness i arrived
So nothing about Carlee Russell???
She is an Entertainer, she doesn’t owe any of her fans anything. It’s very strange
She has given me bad vibes in the last year or so. Some fans think she’s just doing a “bit”. Nah, she just doesn’t like y’all. Also she’s always been anti black. I’ve never felt like she was with bothhhh sides of her heritage. Didn’t she say she would never be with a black man.
@@SWISHGODD Girl, what are you on? Your comments all over this video are sending me, lol. You seem like someone who just hates black men, and who is probably antiblack, just like Doja, so you feel a need to defend her. You can date who you want, but Doja dates from self hate just like the black men you're talking about. It's just weird you're over here being angry at BLACK WOMEN for calling Doja out. Go yell at black men or something because you obviously have big issues with them. Having a "preference" is weird no matter who it is, tbh.
Doja obviously doesn’t have to say “I love y’all” and mean it in the same way that people mean when they say it to friends and family, but the fact that she can’t even just simply say those 3 words and keep it pushing just shows how nasty her personality is.
I’ve been told “I love you” by people who I didn’t have a familial or close bond with but I’ve said it back because it’s literally not that serious
@@nobodae3296 It is that serious to her she does not want to say it to random strangers online who demands it because they listen to her music. She does not owe them that at all. It is weird as hell.
@@_Kim_Possible I can understand not wanting to say ily to strangers but she can’t say she appreciates her fans? Sure it’s their choice to support her and buy/stream her music but that choice benefits her so she can’t say thank you at least?
@@_Kim_Possible If a person can’t just say “I love y’all” to fans in an appreciate way and keep it pushing they are weird and that’s that. And nobody was demanding it. The fan page was just asking and Doja responded rudely. And I’m sure they definitely don’t want to hear it from her now.
@@latia7139 She has said thank you in the past. People suffer from parasocial relationships with celebrities so they conflate "I love you" with Doja "thanking them".
Not farting in the chat rooms lort 😭
She’s wrong, end of story. Celebs have been around for over 100 years😂 and have to deal with fans that “love” them. Doja has never even had a stalker or anyone that has crossed the line and invaded her personal space so for her to act like it’s weird for a fan to say they love an artist is beyond me. There are different types of love and from what I saw none of her fan’s approached or even crossed the line of fandom, Imagine if ppl like Tom Cruise or Angelina Jolie responded to fans like this. Then she had the nerve to say her last 2 albums were cash grabs, her fans are stupid and she’ll chill on an island with ppl she actually loved 🤨 stop defending this goofy, rude and yes talented little girl who has a chip in her shoulder. How can someone that beautiful, talented, and rich be this miserable. It confirms that a lot of ppl who have more than 99% of us are just ungrateful sad beings.
You are making so many assumptions of a person you know nothing about
@@sagedill5993 everything I said was pure factual outside of knowing if she had a stalker, however I’m sure if she did we would know like all other celebrities, once it hits the media and the file restraining orders. You can see the videos for yourself. She has a chip on her shoulder as she has stated several times she hates her hair texture and it’s because she’s mixed race. It’s hard to assume anything about someone who goes on the internet and constantly talks about her life. If you want to keep making excuses and ignore who she is showing you she is, that’s on you but I believe ppl when they show me who they really are.
Celebs have been around for thousands of years, actually. But most of the younger entertainers obviously have no media training. Say what you will about Tom Cruise, but I remember one time on a red carpet a guy sprayed water in his face or something like that, pranking him, and even though Tom was clearly angry, he chided the man in a way where you could find no fault in the response. Tom's a weirdo too, but he had to be recorded low-key (like when he ranted about people on-set not following COVID regulations) to catch him going off, and even then it was justified. He doesn't hop on social media talking out of pocket. Neither does Beyoncé. Because they have the maturity and training to know better.
These people act like they're Mozart or Da Vinci or something when they're just p-ssy popping pop stars. Like, I know media changes, but sit down somewhere. And I'd say that about my faves unless they were god-tier in multiple disciplines.
Parasocial relationships are crazy to me like do you see how people defend Selena Gomez almost like they know her. Her team has capitalized off of parasocial relationships so well to the point that I it should be studied
You always hit the nail on the head!
Doja is rude to her fans, but also stans are weird
Doja Cat has never been likable person. She was a great performer and her fans are confused.
I was saying this over at another channel. It’s not our business. We may not like it, but it’s her life. Let her wreck it as roughly as she wants. I personally could care less. Love the music, but not the person
It's weird when I see normal people talking to celebrities underneath there ig pictures as if they are there real friends
Why are people shocked? We all knew when she was in them KKK roo.s entertaining them yt men. She got a pass cause she's pretty and made some bops.