I'm ASHAMED To Be A Jew | David Baddiel Reacts
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- Comedian David Baddiel coaches me through my shame at being Jewish, and discusses the injustice of how anti-Semitism is ignored by some people on the Left. David Baddiel wrote the brilliant book, Jews Don't Count, about exactly this.
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Grew up in a 95% Jewish neighborhood in the Bronx, synagogues on every corner. I have always been proud of being Jewish, completely secular, agnostic, not religious. First antisemitic encounter at 16 while a camp counselor and learned the meaning of "kike". In my 20s working on Capitol Hill, living in DC was recommended that I move to Silver Spring where the Jews live. A co-worker would repeatedly say, "You're so New York," which was code for Jew. At a party, unprovoked attack by three drunk guys from West Virginia, "Hitler was right. You belong in the ovens." I threw a glass at them. The next day, they apologized saying, "If there were more Jews like you, there would not have been the Holocaust." Once told by a boss who thought it was a compliment, "You're nothing like your people. You're nice." It ALWAYS ENRAGES ME because they're just so ignorant. It's about them, not you or me.
Ugh, I get that faux-compliment too. "You're not like other Black people". That is NOT a compliment and I DON'T want to hear it.
I'm so so sorry you had to encounter these horrific ignorant prejudice antisemitic people that treated you this way. And I'm sorry so many people have had encounters with prejudice people like these. I wish I could say it's not common place, but sadly it is. I know nothing I say will ever make it better. And i know i will never know what it's like or feels like to be in your shoes. Nevertheless I'm really sorry. But we both know my being sorry sadly can't make it any better or easier.
if there’s a single thing that could serve as a common ground for so many people of such different backgrounds, who otherwise couldn’t be united in any possible way and would fight each other till their last breath over virtually everything, it’s Anti-Semitism/Judophobia.
Anti-Semitism: connecting people all over the world for more than two millennia!
yay! ☺️
@@jaelzion exactly try being black AND Jewish oh boy
Leave it to someone from the place where they invented the toothbrush, (vs a teethbrush), whose parents are first cousins, to act like they are better than anyone.
Did this resonate with you? Or give you an insight into something new?
There is much more to this issue. Much more.
You would think anyone "Jewish" in the U.S. would be concerned about Nazi war crimes in the U.S. and genocide in the U.S. but they are not. I have contacted many Holocaust organizations, "Jewish” Congressman and Senators, the ADL among others and not one has shown an interest in the extermination of the Creoles of New Orleans or the other groups like the French and the Dutch among others. I am French and almost all the people of my group were exterminated. I found two actual French people growing up and both were killed by these Nazis. These people in Louisiana with French names are German Nazis who took the identity of the people they disappeared. I have contacted many HBCU's in the U.S. and black Congressman and Senators about the massacre of the Creoles, etc. Only a couple of people responded saying thanks for the info and only one black person in Congress. Congressman Will Hurd from Texas. He called me. He was on the other line when someone from his staff called me. This is standard procedure. I went over the info I had emailed him. I have a number of emails back and forth from him. What happened? Nothing. So even the blacks who are clearly not German are unable to even talk or expose this, some out of fear others out of losing the gravy train they have been provided with by these Nazi descendants. And Hurd declined to run for office in the next election. Oh, you talk of Hitler. Hitler had many doubles. The man who died in the bunker in Berlin was a double. As I said I went to school with the German kids who were the descendants of these Nazis. In fact, one was the son, Ricky, of the leader of the Nazi group who invaded in 1935, Morris Kirschman and they claimed to be Jews trying to escape Hitler to gain entry into the port of New Orleans and gain trust from the Americans who were GOOD people. I was told in the early 60’s, by one of the German kids a Beryl Wolfe that Hitler was alive and well in Rhinebeck, New York. Said he was a relative of Hitlers. After they invaded in 1935 and secured the U.S., Hitler came to the U.S. probably about 1938 and then they started the war in Europe. Hitler was not even in Europe during the war. As many Germans I grew up with told me, America was the real prize in the entire world. He was happy to have the U.S. at the end of the war.
I also did hear from Senator Steve Cohen who claims to be Jewish. He emailed me and thanked me for sending the video about the National Socialist German Workers' Party. This video, th-cam.com/video/5D1W82Q4EM4/w-d-xo.html
His email had the standard if I can help you with a Federal agency, etc. But that was it. And that of course was not really any help to me or exposing the war crimes he definitely knows about.
@@NewOrleansSeptember Reading old newspapers from different places and up to about 150 years old, taught me, to nor believe history books, teachers or movies.. Look at how little so callednews today is untrue - why should anything old be? Look at the few thing you know from irl, and compare with the official stories.. Ha.......
As a teen I babysit a lot. One family was Jewish, there oldest son was studying for his Bar Mitzvah. He decided to hit me with the whole Racist thing “You don’t like me because I’m Jewish.” I had to sit down to laugh. I had just broken up with practicing Jew, and had a crush on the Rabbi’s son. I never had an issue with the oldest son again.
It resonates with me but in a once removed way. I'm not Jewish but a close friend is. She's pretty left-wing (far more so than I am) and her distress at the abuse she got from some of her fellow Labour Party members was heart-breaking to witness. She said that Ugandans don't constantly get asked to distance themselves from Idi Amin but she is constantly berated about the Israeli government. She has no links to Israel, she has never been there either. Her links are to working-class South London. Her family aren't well-off (and she definitely isn't either) but it's often assumed that they are. The bonkers (and dangerous) conspiracy theories that abound are particularly anti-Semitic. Sometimes they don't appear to be but scratch the surface and the anti-Semitic tropes are there.
Thank you for this conversation it was a great discussion.
I grew up Jewish in Venezuela. Never heard anybody say they are shamed to be Jewish or change their name, actually it’s the contrary, we are regarded as intelligent and prosperous. I LOVE❤❤❤ being Jewish
You’re lucky! It may be something that Jews in the US and European Jews feel more than in other countries. It’s fairly common in the US.
Wow! I’m pretty ignorant about Latin America, but I assumed everyone was hardcore Catholic, I’m stateside. I need to travel!
I seem to recall hearing somewhere that LatAm was historically tolerant towards Jewish communities -- at least compared to Europe.
there's actually a wikipedia article on the topic of Jews in Latin America: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Latin_America_and_the_Caribbean
Good for you. I am a Roman Catholic but l don’t discriminate between any other religion each to their own and there is room for all of us in this world. What l don’t like is the extremists in what ever religion you may choose. You don’t have to go to any religious building to be a good person, just be kind to people.😊
Not a Jew but had a friend who used to say things like "She's so Hymie" and finally I asked her what she meant. She thought it meant "not putting out" - like not willing to break your Hymen. I corrected her and told her it was a slur against Jews. She changed after that. I think education about cultures and subcultures helps people think differently.
there are people in distant, lost in a middle of nowhere, villages at Siberia who probably never saw a single Jew in their lives, and they are antisemites.
as long as I live, I can’t stop being amused about this phenomenon…🤷♂️
She probably just misheard "haughty"...
That’s kind of hilarious
I am Jewish, and live my life as a Orthodox Jew not trying to hide the fact. I have personally never felt ashamed, or felt that I was stigmatized for being Jewish. I do understand that people do have this feeling and experiences that affirm this notion.
I’m a Scottish Jew and I am so proud of being Jewish I could shout it from the rooftops. Anyone I know that’s Jewish is also proud of being Jewish.
Awesome!
I am not Jewish but what I learned about WWII/Hitler's massacre gave hate to the word Jew. Breaks my heart for them. It infuriates me!
Thank you so much Kerry !
I have always found history interesting even the rise to power of Hitler or any other dictators but once you decide to pick on the apple of God's eye your days are numbered God said he will bless them who bless his people and curse them who want to do harm to them I would prefer to see any country blessed that supports the nation of Israel let's pray for wise leadership on our world stage and may that be blessed also that God bless bibi on his 3rd term in power
it didn’t start there. this hatred is two millennia old.
@@unisophia at last someone knows...
The brainwashed by them... Hollywood media... Christ.
Says it too...
"YOUR FATHER IS THE DEVIL" - Why Jesus Said This To The Jews
John 8:44 Context kjv
41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God
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@Jdub NoMo this guy deleting all my rebuttals to the reasons why firstly they can even say anti anything when they are anti Christ had him killed but watch the videos if he doesn't delete them about four five he doesn't want anyone to see the truth
Is what I'm saying...
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...who call themselves jews but are not... Author, Christ...
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Nothing new under the Sun...
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More on century old news that doesn't seem to change...
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Revelation 2:9 Context
6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. 7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; 9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. 11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. 12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;
But everybody else are the liars, said the liars, then make rules against anyone talking about them, when not allowed after awhile, more and more people will realise why and what they want hidden... As it comes to afore...
God loves truth and these guys... Hmmm... Speaks for itself in the end...
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Jews were the reason I had a comfortable life growing up since my dad was a professional photographer and the majority of his clientele were Jewish. He enjoyed covering bar and bat mitzvahs more than weddings because he didn't have to deal with bridezillas.
This is really interesting. It's a very different experience from being Black, where I wear my identity on the outside and it immediately gets processed (not necessarily negatively) any time I enter a room.
absolutely right, very different, some similarities i can imagine, too. hope you enjoy the channel jaelzion, you are most welcome here.
My Grandmother on my Dad's side was Jewish but hid it during WW2. My Dad always thought he was Protestant. I didn't find this out until a few years before my Dad passed. In turns out that my sis ran into a cousin we didn't know about at school. I started going to Temple a few years ago. I am so amazed at the beauty of the Jewish religion. I was brought up Catholic. My Mom was Catholic so guess this makes me 50/50. I spend more time at Temple and rarely go to church anymore.
Amazing how many had to hide. Thanks sammy !
I was also raised Catholic, like Seriously Catholic, and I firmly believe that the Catholic Church is responsible for so many people raised in Catholicism turning to Judaism. The idea that there is no original sin, people are born with original goodness was absolutely mind blowing to me!!
I think people going against the Jewish people are just jealous and lazy. Mostly the Jews know how to make money by hard work (which mostly is ignored), they just see them having a good life and think no further than their noses. As children we had Jewish friends and we didnt look at them as being different until my mother (who was British) made the comparison. Totally unnecessary. I was also told that I couldn't use the nannies brush because I would get lice. I never got the dreaded lice and then never trusted what my mother said after that. The Jews have very good brains and this is what many cannot contend with. Jealousy is so ugly.
I'm a Canadian-born Chinese atheist that grew up in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood, and the majority of my closest friends are Jewish. They have been the most kind, smart, funny and generous people that have always welcomed me into their homes for countless dinners and high holidays and been to dozens of weddings and bar/bat mitzvahs. They've all been proud of their heritage and I've been proud to call them my friends. If anyone ever utters a discouraging word about Jews in my presence, they would be in for an earful from me!
thank you evelyn!
In many ways the Jewish and Chinese diaspora have very similar experiences.
You guys should use those space lasers against the anti-Semites. Problem solved. Baddiel's book arrived today. I read it in one sitting. Excellent read.
As always another very interesting broadcast really enjoyed watching this
Thanks !
Great video, I’m a non Jew. I’m not religious but was brought up in the catholic faith. I’d love for more open discussions about this religion and culture.it can feel so taboo at times. Thanks guys
This was a good podcast to listen to. I grew up in Reading, went to Uni in Nottingham and worked in Edinburgh and I never met anyone from the Jewish faith. I moved to the US over 20 years ago and have worked for and had work colleagues from the Jewish faith. I've learnt more about the Jewish faith living here while in the UK I knew more about the other major religions - Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and Sikhism. I also have learnt that Judaism is followed by a small population in India and Ethiopia.
It’s more a fear, of being judged, of being persecuted. Or killed.
What a great interview, Andrew. Thank you so much for producing it. I love David Baddiel, he's such an interesting person and I have loved his comedy over the years. I feel awful that you feel ashamed about being Jewish. I feel awful that people have put you in a position where you have internalised their terrible comments and it has resulted in shame. I think you're a fantastic human being and I think you do wonderful work. I really enjoy what you do and I learn so much from pretty much every video! Thank you and as always, I look forward to the next video. ❤
thank you!!!
Regardless of our backgrounds we all are part of the human race.
I loved David Baddiel’s book! I’ve read it a couple of times. There really aren’t enough books about Jews and the Jewish experience.
He’s so good ! Thanks Kat
Sorry, I disagree. For such a small group, Jewish life and history have been written about extensively.
There are a lot of books about dead Jews…
Baddiel is hyperfocused on being Jewish to an abnormal degree in my opinion.
His recent admissions of racism makes everything he says tainted and hypocritical.
Not to get stuck on the point, but being Jewish just isn't that important.
It's important, just like any other minority but most people just don't give a shit.
He's a privileged knob. Let him go live with the working class, the great unwashed. Literally noon would think of him as a " Jew".
He needs perspective.
Yes there are real issues in how Jews are portrayed, but baddiel is fucking obsessed to such a whiny degree whilst being a racist fucker himself himself.
His denial of the Israeli Palestinian issue is a case in point. He's acting like he's persecuted.
Laughable.
There's many many groups who have been persecuted. But I don't think anyone can stand by the Zionist actions of Israel..it's not racist to criticise Israeli and the Jewish connection to that. It's just a teuth
@@oliverbird6914 Yes, but antisemitism is growing and that is an undeniable fact. For Jews, this is a real issue, one that has led, ironically, to quite a number emigrating from countries like France to Israel.
I'm a mixed black guy, and I found this conversation absolutely informative. The feeling of shame is an interesting concept, as the racism that I experienced resulted in fear, being ridiculed, and broken confidence. It's helpful to know the other dimensions of what it is like, being subjected to hate, discrimination and racism. Thank you Andrew and David.
Try being Mexican in America. In the 70s and 80s in Texas, it was mostly the boomer and silent generations who had issues when this light skinned Hispanic would take them to task when they made derogatory comments. I saw how these beliefs impacted my mom who refused to teach us Spanish to ensure no one would make fun of us. Darn, shame. My Jewish colleagues said they never revealed their identity either for same reason. Now I'm married to man of Jewish heritage... we named our son after his great opa who died in Auschwitz. Bruno never thought he'd be taken since he was a pillar of the Berlin business community. Great discussion, Goldstein!
Thank you cici!
Or even being brown in the U.S. if people can’t categorize you, they’ll straight up ask you “what” you are. Even complete strangers. The answer is “human”. People, we are human!
I do not get on an emotional level why anyone would be racist or anti semitic
You lack emotional intelligence and the ability to understand other viewpoints? You seem to think this is a brag, but not being able to understand the maladaptive traits of others is a sign of an underdeveloped psychology and lack of insight.
Jews are probably disproportionately represented in some fields, like maybe comedy and philosophy (anecdotal), but the same is true of other minorities. E.g. I think it’s the cases that Vietnamese people own a disproportionate number donut shops in the USA. It doesn’t follow that this is deliberate or sinister.
Andrew I've never ever ever said anything bad about Jewish people in my life. When I was in college every day my professor gave me the hiel Hitler sign. I went home to my parents home and I said to my father I'm ashamed to be German. He said to me you ever say those words again I never want to see you ever again. The thing is when the war was on even if you were German if you didn't follow the psycho Hitler they killed you too . My dad had to escape getting shot at to come to Canada. My only point is please don't hate German people my dad was the best guy in the whole world and I love him and miss him every day 😭❤️
I don’t hate Germans !! I lived in Berlin for three years and learned German !
I’ve got Jewish blood…..My best friend, Stuart Gould and I cut our hands and mingled our blood when we were younger, approximately 45 years ago! I literally love (and have loved) Jews, but dislike the state of Israel. Sadly, many people cannot discern how people can hold such a position.
Many Israelis dislike the state of Israel or at least it’s government, but people are a bit sensitive…
I think it’s because sadly there are a lot of people who say stuff like “I’m not antisemitic but just anti Zionist” to justify antisemitism.
But disliking a states actions is obviously completely legit
Don't be ashamed of being Jewish, because as soon as you are ashamed, you give people a reason to think (in their hearts) that "even you are ashamed to be Jewish." For all the reasons you have given here, your value will decrease in your own eyes and in the eyes of others, and this is not only related to Judaism, but in life in general. Greetings from Jerusalem
Thank you Inbal!
חנוכה שמח.. מרושלים!
Great topic my friend!! Thank you!! I'm not Jewish but I do have 1% Jewish in my DNA, and several other and I do believe we are all one with God I know you don't believe in God but I believe we all came from the same place which is him and we are all Brothers and should be United always love and light my handsome friend or I should say brother 😉😁😁😁 Love and Light!! ❤️🌹❤️
Thanks Elvira !
@@AndrewGold1 your berry welcome my friend ❤️🌹❤️
Stamford Hill and Golders Green Jewish woman. Very proud of being Jewish. I absolutely love your channel and your content. One of the best interviewers on Social Media. I would Love to interview you on clubhouse. Lol
Is clubhouse still going!!?
Also thank you maz !!
Reading Issac Bashivis Singer & other Jewish writers I get the sense of a studious literate, intellectual people.
To me it’s the envy as well, like what Australians call the tall poppy syndrome. No shame in being Jewish or successful. Your name is who you are, your family and heritage. You are an amazing person Andrew and I am learning so much about other people’s perspectives because of you and the people who are sharing their experiences with you on your channel. Thank you so much💜
Aw thank you maree!!
Posted videos that may make more sense
...who call themselves jews but are not... Author, Christ...
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Nothing new under the Sun...
That have been deleted... One side of the debate from liars, never one version...
I grew up in USA and dated a guy who spoke Russian. I automatically assumed he was Russian since we spoke the same language until he corrected me and said that he is actually a Russian jew. That Israeli flag on his wall should have been a dead giveaway but I just assumed he supported Israel. It never even crossed my mind that he was Jewish.
I grew up in South Africa and the Jewish people had such a positive influence in the business world and generally were wealthy. They were proud of their race and they were looked on as incredibly successful and admired. I never met a South African Jew who was ashamed of their race, contrary to that, they were very proud of being Jewish.
The Jewish community in South Africa played a massive role in bringing about an end to apartheid. Naturally, these heroes are disgusted at what the zionists are doing to the Palestinians.
I’m in Yorkshire and have never even really thought about people being Jewish or not to be honest we don’t have a big Jewish population here, I find all religions fascinating
As a Jewess, I admit to feeling a little antisemitism rising up if faced with gefilte fish or chopped liver.
That made me laugh.
Do not ever be ashamed, be proud !
I'm little bit worried about those conspiracy theories and far-right rising. I think we need to do something.. being ashamed won't help at all
Thanks Sam !
From what I remember of History in America every single foreign that came went through racism in America the land of the melting pot supposedly!! That's not a forget how they treated The real Americans the natives., The Chinese suffered when they first came the Irish Italians the Sicilians Mexicans and of course the Jewish and forget about the blacks that were brought by force and still were enslaved and suffered racism, and let's not forget the discrimination of women and children!!
I learned (the hard way🙄 )that each person should be liked, loved or disliked based on their personal merits alone, and for no other reason.
Plus, Jewish boys are cute. 😊 Very interesting!
I wish this world would just wake up and celebrate our different cultures. We all bring a richness to this planet, and I'm saddened to hear of your difficulties being Jewish, and after WW11 would hope that things would have gotten better. I actually don't give a monkeys what genetic make-up people are, but how they are as a person matters very much. I resonate a little with what you have both discussed, but through completely different experiences, childhood trauma and being female... huge hugs to both of you, you have every right to be proud of who you are, (now I better tell myself that 🤔☺).
Thank you Andrew, another thought provoking episode!
ah thank you florence!
Andrew do you think your family name being changed could also have created a sense of shame without you even knowing?
possibly, possible. Maybe I'd have even more if I had grown up as a Goldstein though!
I'm proud to be Jewish but my 99 year old mother has always kept it to herself until she knew people closely because she was that generation where it prevented you from doing many things. My father was born in Radom Poland to a well off Jewish family in 1922 and came here as a baby and grew up in NYC. Mom was in a small town, so it was very different from my dad's experience.
Kanye is watching this taking notes.
Hhahaha
@@AndrewGold1 Congrats to you and the missus on Argentina winning the WC!
I was raised Jewish, and I was actually rather proud of that growing up. Then several things happened to completely flip my view on it. First, I spent three years in the U.S. Army, where the intolerance was institutionalized. In basic training, I was given extra duty for skipping church on Sunday. Growing up, the schools provided accommodations for Jews on the high holidays. In the army there were no such provisions. At best, they would begrudgingly concede them, but they always came with addendums in the form of extra duty or an agreement to take on tasks no one else wanted. I don't look Jewish, so I was often exposed to some of the behind-the-scenes bigotry that went on. On roommate I had was a white supremacist, and I learned for the first time that I was apparently part of a vast conspiracy to bring about a new world order with Jews at the top. One guy tried to pick a fight with me in a bar once just because I was Jewish. I heard many people asking, "Did you Jew them down?" in the context of, "Did you manage to cheat them into a good bargain?" After leaving the service, I would often hear my sister make jokes like, "Of course I'm cheap. I'm Jewish." I was really sensitive about that and told her not to even joke about it, but she thought I was being silly.
The second major shift in perspective came from my parents quitting the conservative synagogue I had attended throughout my childhood to join the local Chabad-Lubavitch chapter. My biological mother (who died when I was a year old) was not Jewish, so for the first time in my life I was told by their Rabbi that I wasn't Jewish. My parents tried to play it off as insignifcant, but they continued to attend and support that chapter. The more I thought about it, the angrier it made me, until I came to the realization that I was being ridiculous. By this time I had already outgrown the faith-based aspect of Judaism, and I was pretty much going through the motions by upholding the most significant traditions. Being "not Jewish" freed me from lots of responsibilities and expectations that had already lost a great deal of meaning to me over the years, so I made the conscious decision to drop most of them. When my kids were growing up, we had an annual Passover seder because the story of slaves being freed from their bondage continues to resonate with me. That's about the extent of my Jewishness now.
The final shift in perspective came from marrying a non-Jew. I find it rather ironic that so many Jews complain about intolerance and bigotry when they themselves casually engage in it.
For these reasons, I effectively have a don't-ask-don't-tell policy with regard to my Judaism. If someone points out my Jewish last name, I honestly state that my grandfather was Jewish. If pressed, I go into more detail, playing up my mixed Mexican-Jewish heritage. Overall, I find aspects of the Jewish culture to be very appealing. The cultural reverence for scholars and charity sets Jews up for success. On the other hand, I find the arrogant, judgmental nature of many Jewish communities to be abhorrent.
I’m sorry to hear your fellow soldiers were unkind to you.
@@CanadianMonarchist Only a handful were. Most of my fellow soldiers were good guys. One roommate I had in the barracks was a white supremacist and had no idea that I was Jewish. Another guy knew I was Jewish and attempted to assault me on that pretext one night when he was drunk. We were all hanging out in a big group, so he was stopped before he could actually do anything. I also heard expressions that I had never heard in my life before, like "Jewing someone down" when attempting to cheat them in a bargain.
@@berniemargolis4288 Well I’m glad that most of them accepted you. There was an awful case of a Chinese American soldier who faced a tremendous amount of abuse.
Personally I feel every single Jewish person should have pride in their heritage and should not feel ashamed in the slightest. This coming from a Scottish Protestant background, albeit atheist. Saying that I also don't understand racism either, we should celebrate what makes us the same not what divides us! There is a fine line between pride and xenophobia in some circles.
I’m from a Scottish Protestant background too! I agree that Jews (and everyone else) should be proud of who they are.
I'm a proud Jew originally from Brooklyn, New York. I know it sounds crazy, but growing up where I had, I thought EVERYONE was Jewish! What a shock, then, when I've come to learn that we are a minority... a TINY minority! It took a great deal of adjustment when I left home for college. That was perhaps the first time in my life when I experienced antisemitism. I'm so grateful that I was brought up with the sense that being Jewish was not negative or feeling that Jews needed to hide or keep a low profile. I am a bit sad that other Jews did not have that luxury.
Ever notice that on-line bios (Wikipedia, IMDB, etc.) always mention the subject's religion if he/she is Jewish but rarely do if the person was raised in another religion, especially a Christian denomination?
“My very strong J-dar!” had me 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I know the feeling!
Hahaha
Thankyou as always ❤ Happy Holidays 🙋♀️🫶🏼✌️😷👍🏽🙏🏻
Thank you too!
Interesting Video!
For me it is quite strange, because in my culture Jews and the Jewish Community is actually highly-valued and quite popular.
Thanks garnix! There is more love for Jews in Germany because of the past. Your username makes me think you might be there !
@@AndrewGold1I know, that my Nickname leads to this conclusion, but I am actually Half-Bulgarian living in Austria, and in Bulgaria Jews are very popular and liked. The Jewish Community is there seen as very well educated, very civilian (European) and very cultivated. The fact, that Bulgarian intervention during WWII (which came from the People AND the Church) saved the Jews in Bulgaria during WWII is something Bulgarians are very proud of. This leads even to some very strange views like for example how Post-Communist Bulgarians look at people from the Communist past, in which Trotski is seen in a quite positive light.
I have always been very proud that I am Jewish!
I find the UK difficult to live in as a non Anglican British. I’m French and for the past 24 years living in the UK, I gave up count of the number of “jokes” that i was told about being a French woman- from being asked if I kiss well to “we saved your butts during the war” to whether I wear knickers… and the one that really stuck: “French women didn’t welcome the Germans only with their arms open” - having no idea that women get systematically raped by their oppressor in any war.
The level of preconceived ideas and pride regarding ignorance is rampant in the UK. It’s the only thing that would make me leave - but sorry I’m staying. :)
I grew up French in the USA, where I heard a steady stream of derogatory remarks about being French "a nation of losers who can't win a war" etc.
Why would I be ashamed of being Jewish? On the the other hand, why would I be proud? I am proud of the good deeds I have done but ashamed of showing my bum to a boy in pre school. Those are things that I CHOSE to do, I never chose to be Jewish. You guys make such a great team, almost like fry and Laurie. Hugs all round from Vanessa in a very wet Israel xxxx
My grandmother:
"We're not Golden: we're GOULDEN!"
As though the addition of a U (one of the symbols on food packaging to let us know it's kosher) will somehow magically de-demonise us. Like taking away the Stein, so it doesn't give us blisters because it's not rattling around in our shoes any more. Crazy how many similar stories we Jews share.
PS. There are definitely and absolutely Jews in the middle of nowhere...I am one.
Someone randomly came up to me in the local garage a few months ago and said "שלום"
Confused and surprised, I replied
"שלום שלום אחי, מה שלומך?"
The guy, who looked between 15 and 17, and, dare I say, "very Jewish", had already started wandering off. He looked at his feet and carried on chatting with his friends. He kept sneaking little looks at me and I him, until he wandered off down the street, swigging from a can of pop. I've never seen him since in this tiny, out of the way wilderness, but hey, it did make me smile.
I grew up in a Christian home in South Africa, with no personal contact with Jewish people & I genuinely admire the culture in a probably naive way. Especially Jewish women are so intriguing to me. It might not be right to say, but I have said that I'd have liked to grow up Jewish.
Including circumcision when a week old?
The word JEW always makes me straighten my back a bit, so I'm very sad to hear about your unreasonable feeling shame.
Peace and love from a
(not even Jewish) Dane
Love David! Such a great guy!
Andrew I loved this. I love David. I think he is a genius writer and comedian and my 15 year old daughter is a huge fan of his books. I must admit that I know very little about the Jewish community in Ireland who would be largely based in Dublin where there is the only Synagogue as far as I know. We had one Jewish family living in our town over several generations and I am ashamed to say that their success in business was largely attributed to their Judaism. It was an opinion based on total ignorance.
Thinking about how you spoke about shame, and I know what I am going to say is very different to what you have been talking about both culturally and historically, but as a person born and raised as a Catholic in Ireland, a religion and a god who I totally abandoned in my mid teens, I continue, to this day, aged 58, to feel a deep sense of shame to have ever been associated with this faith. Ironically, this is what they wanted and what they beat into us as children, that we should feel ashamed about every aspect of our existence, that we were born on to this earth flawed by original sin and would pay for it for the rest of our lives through shame. Surely I should have been able to abandon this twisted mess of mind control when I left everything else behind but it has a habit of following you around for the rest of your life. They were so good at what they did.
However, along with that innate sense of shame, the shame I feel most profoundly now, has more to do with the abhorrent behaviour of the church leaders, priests, nuns, brothers and more, who perpetrated so many physical and sexual abuses against children and who were protected and moved around parishes to continue abusing. Of course I know I did not particpate in this but I was part of that church while it was going on and can never erase my Catholic upbringing as enforced as it was. It is not an overt feeling that I carry on my sleeve all the time but whenever the subject of all this abuse comes up as it intermittently does, I die inside from shame and I am really not sure why other than the old, tenius connection that will always remain. When the Catholics got their hooks into you they left lasting scars especially with people of my generation and older.
Sorry about the very long comment. I may have mentioned to you before that I have ADHD and it renders me incapable of being succinct (this has been edited down to half the original size lol). Thank you so much for all of the videos you are putting out. I look forward to each of them as they are all thought provoking and educational in different ways and you ask great questions as well as contributing great commentary yourself. Big thanks to David too. I really enjoyed his answers to your questions. Shame be damned 🙂
thank you so much, you are so right!
Hey Dearbhla,
I had a friend when I was in college who was the son of an Irish Catholic mother and a Jewish English father. Funny how I just wondered which way round to put "English" and "Jewish", but for Irish Catholic it felt natural. I guess it's because I was just going to write "Jewish". Already, I digress!
My point was that his parents used to joke about how many Jews and Catholics ended up marrying each other. "I think it's the guilt we have in common", his dad told me one day, whilst frying some bacon and pork sausages. "I haven't kept kosher for years, but I still feel guilty. At least we're keeping the Catholic side happy". He pointed to the gang of kids of various ages sitting around the kitchen: between them, they had produced eight children.
There's a video on this channel that talks about arranged marriage in the ultra orthodox Jewish community and watching it, I was internally crying out, "how can you say such things? You are just giving fuel to the anti semites!" but we NEED to talk about stuff like the gender segregation and the shaming of those members of the community who marry non Jews. We need to talk about the fact that there's a high suidide rate amongst gay yeshiva boys and a veil of denial about it. (A Yeshiva is a religious school). If we don't speak out, then how will we make things better? But if we do, we have to choose our words so carefully. Because antisemitism couldn't be more real. And it's growing. A lot of people who left the ultra orthodox Jewish community call themselves "survivors". I guess that's another thing in common with people like yourself who have left Catholicism, but it's also different in a way. It's such a difficult subject because it's very emotional, because there's so much at stake when we criticise our own. And because of course, there are many members of ultra orthodox Jewish communities who feel incredibly protective of the culture they fought so hard to preserve, in spite of all adversity.
My grandmother refused to speak Yiddish. She was so ashamed to be Jewish. Her family changed their name from Golden to Goulden, as if adding a "U" would take away the stigma. She would argue that it wasn't a Jewish name. When asked
"But what about grandmother Golden's mezuzahs? What about the menorahs? What about lokshen pudding, matzah ball soup? What about lox and bagels?" She used to look at the floor and say "Bloody old Jews". My grandmother left the ultra orthodox community because she couldn't cope with it. She was so ashamed. But she grew up in a frightening time, where being Jewish was dangerous. That sense of fear, of shame, of hiding one's identity was handed down and that's never good.
You don't have to feel ashamed of something you didn't do. I'm happy you know that.
See, I don't know when to stop talking either! I always used to start talking by saying "Listen!" When someone told me "That's so Jewish!", I consciously stopped saying it. I can't say it any more without laughing.
I think that's another thing we Jews and Catholics have in common: using humour as a way to make things easier. A Jew and a Catholic walk into a bar. "Anti semite!" shouts the Jew. "Give me a triple whisky, no ice", says the Catholic.
I'm sorry!
Self deprecating humour helps, though, regardless of whether some people don't like it. It helps.
Wishing you a wonderful new year.
Enjoyed this one. I like listening to Mayim Bialik talk about being Jewish.
Mayim Bialik is a staunch zionist. Another terrible representative of the jewish community.
Miriam Margolyes is an outspoken critic of zionism and its brutalization of the Palestinian people. You should watch her interview with David Baddiel.
I didn't knowingly meet a Jewish person until University. I was sitting with some friends who started talking about a girl I dated a couple of times (they didn't know about that) and one called her a "Jewish princess". I had never heard of this term before and wondered if it was anti-semitic. They explained and I realised that they were Jewish and the girl I had dated was, too. I was glad I hadn't called them anti-semitic but I think they just would have laughed.
Mitchell Bard's Jewish Virtual Library plus "MYTHS and FACTS"
The difference between an Israeli jew and the non religious diaspora jews is that the first one is a proud jews
And the diaspora one is groveling jew. Afraid of his shadow.
I will never know what it's like to be Jewish. To quote the great Jo Cox, "We have more in common than that which divides us." I hope one day, we as humans, will stop dividing and persecuting ourselves. But something tells me that will not happen in my lifetime. And for that, I'm sorry, but on another note, I love this conversation between the two of you 🙂
thank you!!
Brilliant analysis!👏🏻👏🏻
thanks helene!!
There seems to be less and less information and education to teach children and others that jewdaism isn't just a religion. It IS heritage. Some other religions claim this but it isn't true they just have ethic origins in a country that's main religion is there's. But the Jew heritage is proven, it's established and it is a race of people. You can cease to consider yourself a Jew in terms of belief but you are still a Jew because it's your heritage. Just as my heritage is English/European and my religious past is fundamentalist JW . The difference is important and is supported by the histories and stories of the many survivor's of the Haulocost (not sure on spelling) which is something again that should still be in education at different stages instead of deminishing to reading Anne frank at primary school but only in top set and thinking you know all about it. We are under educating our children in terms of culture, religion and acceptance and as they know and tollorate less and less we seem amazed that respect and knowledge and compassion to all walks of life seems to be fading away
Very Interesting. Thank you for being so open about s.c taboo subjects.
Thank you HS K
Thanks for this video I've learnt a lot
Thank you Sarah ! I hope it doesn’t provoke too many horrid comments. Yours was lovely !
😮the oldest prejudice in the world is antisemitism. the old prejudice is returning. i remember when i asked a jewish friend and asked if i could check out the synagogue where he went (more for tradition than religion). he said they had to hide the location. i am in australia. u wouldnt think it wouldn't be like that here. wtf.
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I think we would all get along much better if we stopped labling ourselves by any charicteristic. its become a huge thing the lables we self apply.
Very good point
But people naturally group themselves regardless. That's just human. At least with race and religion there's a shared culture and community, usually with strong social values. I haven't seen the breakdown of these traditional groups to be a social positive.
Remember watching the news one morning here in New York. They were reporting about a Jewish man was involved in a car accident in Brooklyn. Found it very strange because I’ve never heard about a Catholic or a Muslin being mentioned like that before.
@@DeCapitanOG
exactly!
also, it may sound good, but it's like with communism and other idealisms that should know their place, since they are inherently counter-natural and any attempt to materialize them invariably leads to a bloody disaster.
utopias must stay in the dreamworld, because when projected into reality, they turn out as nightmares.
/*btw, this utopia-vs-nightmare thing somewhat reminds me of these Scottish fairy tales that I loved so much as a child (I read them translated, of course): about Thomas the Rhymer and Faerie Queen of Eildon Hills (in translation the place was called simply the Hill, or the Green Hill) :)
it has the same dynamics and symbolism: something beautiful that remains this way as long as it stays where it belongs, in a dreamworld, where, if you are lucky, you may be invited as a guest to feast with the Faerie Queen, her knights and retinue, but God forbid you to eat or drink at this feast, or touch anything (that is, get into too close contact with dreamworld’s entities, get attached to them sensually and emotionally, perceive them as something real, materialize them)… all the charm will immediately evaporate, the beautiful ladies and gentlemen from the Faerie Queen's retinue will turn into monsters, and your sweetest dream will turn into a nightmare, of which you will become an eternal prisoner…/
sorry for the rant… couldn’t resist it…🥺
My best friend in Sweden never told me he was jewish he was 'outed' by his relative. He too had this COMPLETELY illogical story about how and why his last name changed.
Aw bless u Andrew it wouldn't bother me were u come from you ar successful people nothing wrong with that
Louis Bookman, born Buckhalter! Russian/Lithuanian who played football and cricket for Ireland pre-WW1
I think the shame is optional. Risky not to be ashamed, maybe, but it's optional. All ethnicities, to some degree, resist full assimilation, and it's normal for minority ethnicities to tend to be ambitious and successful. Like the Iranians and Armenians in L.A., or the notable success of Asians in the U.S. generally. Even latino immigrants (like my mom) set another example. Instead of denying it, why not just come out and say, yes, we are (largely) a self-identified ethnicity, and we avoid assimilation and - like other minority ethnicities - we tend to be successful. Will there still be hostility and mistrust and bigotry? Always, that's just part of inter-ethnic reality. As a Latino, I've experienced it, and I'm sure my experience is nothing compared to some African and Asian Americans.
An interesting interview my nans surname was Golding before she married my grandad who surname was Stevans that's if I spelt it right so who knows I might have Jewish blood in me if so no wonder I thank God for my blessings and find the Jewish people interesting shalom my Jewish brothers and sisters and if I don't have Jewish blood in me I still belive in a Jewish man who said he was the messiah named jesus christ who we are about to celebrate his coming into this dark world over 2000 years ago let's not for get that its called Christmas for a reason and let's not take christ out of the Christmas season and call it the holidays just so that we don't offend people as the truth offends people but it also sets one free from there sins
I don’t look Jewish if you see my picture which really is me I look Swedish or German and sometimes people say very antisemitic comments about my people not assuming for one moment that I might be Jewish and I do feel shame because I never stand up for myself all my people I hide especially if I’m in the company of somebody that doesn’t like Jews why would I say hey guess what I’m Jewish and then I feel shame that I don’t say that it’s very complicated
I hope you will get to a stage where you can educate some of them a little.
"my people": this is what I don't get. As our ancestors moved around the world they took on the identities of the local communities and cultures they were born into. My parents are Irish catholics, I was born in London, moved to Manchester as a child, moved to Sheffield when I turned eighteen, moved to other parts of the UK for work etc. My main identity today is indigenous English humanist plus Cockney, Manc, Irish-Catholic etc. I don't see English Cockneys or Irish Catholics as 'my people' but rather people who played a part in making my sense of identity what it is today. However, I understand that people have more of a connection with some ethnic groups compared to others so that whereas I'm not taking up arms against the Russian invasion in Ukraine, people with a sense of Ukrainian identity are.
I don't like Jewish ethnic supremacist fundamentalism whereas I like Jewish secularism so perhaps that's what you may need to point out to people when they say they don't like Jewish people. That is, there's a diversity to the Jewish identity where many Jews consider themselves to be Jewish despite not being religious and some reject the idea that they're "God's chosen people".
@@BarriosGroupie I also hate the 'Chosen People' connotation. Maybe we were just chosen because the only ones willing to take on 613 commandments instead of 10 with Easter eggs and Christmas presents thrown in.
I think most Jews are very culturally connected to their country but also feel very Jewish because the society around does not let you forget, even if they would 'never guess you were Jewish'. Our long history of being expelled from or murdered in so many countries also leaves that corner of insecurity in our brains which will come across either as cowardice or a defensiveness which can be masked by apparent arrogance.
In short, people are complicated and our history makes it harder for us to feel safe.
Consider this... each person's DNA helps them radiate their generational heritage so practicing Judaism or not your heritage informs your growth process as a person. That is the same for other peoples heritage. It is a strength not a reason to feel shame. You subtly radiate the wisdom of your ancestors. If you doubt its true you can search for Peer reviewed scientific papers that agree to this concept. Knowing about that now shall you drop the external doubt and superficial feelings of shame and instead gain a glow of amazement!!!!!
The best mag' back in the day was 'Answer Me' for the 'Big Gulp' of Heb shame and guilt for DNA.
Fascinating concept; the possibility of losing out on some opportunities due to being 'othered as a minority while simultaneously having to be careful not to come off too privileged. That is a narrow tightrope.
i'm laughing at the no contacts though. I went to a very expensive private school, I'm sure I thought there'd be networking but I'm only in touch with the people whose success is ........... non conventional.
Exactly ! And the same happened to me Susan !
I didn't get a reminder and kept looking yesterday to see if you posted 🤷♀️
have you clicked the bell nxt to my subscribe thing? hmmmmmm bloody youtube
@@AndrewGold1 hahaaaaaa!! Just caught your clip on beyond criminal 👍🏽✌️💯had to stop watching because I still am unable to watch HG😵💫🫣
Wishing all an unashamed Happy Hanukah.
оооhhh, come on. What about bulgarians? we have 50% population of Turks and Roma, Romans are calling their selves Bulgarians all around the world and commit all kinds of smart crimes. Do You know how that feels? We like Jewish people, very proude to have saved some in the Holocost, we honestly believe God has blessed us for that. You really dont need to worry, unless some haters look for reasons to bug You. Ef that . :) at least Andrew does not drink baby blood to be ashamed of. :)
What's your take on Jewish people typecasting themselves, such as Fran Drescher and how all her projects followed basically the same story with slightly variations to the premise? I think The Nanny gave a lot of people in my generation about Jewish people who would otherwise have had no information whatsoever, having grown up in a country where they're such a minority they're not talked about.
I LOVED Fran in the Nanny! Was so sad in the UK when they made an equivalent program and she wasn’t Jewish! It just wasn’t the same! 😂
@@deborahbluhm8828 I LOVED the Nanny too, but I watched content produced afterwards and they all had the same cultural jokes etc in them.
The persecution of anyone for imaginary reasons has always been been a problem here on Earth. We mark the calendar as 2023 soon but not so with many who have suffered an additional 3700 years.🤔
The only reason I've ever been ashamed to be Jewish is everything done in Palestine in the name of zionism. I love being Jewish, it's an intrinsic part of what makes me me, but justifying apartheid in the name of an ethnoreligious group I belong to is atrocious.
There’s always 2 sides to hear. Have you heard of “Pay for Slay”? Did you know that Hamas/PA are billionaires paid by Iran and Qatar (Qatar also own state media run Al Jazerra). There’s many terrorist organizations there inc isis that syphon off the charity monies before it even reaches Gaza/WB.
@@deborahbluhm8828 any terrorists ords that aren't the IDF in Palestine are there BECAUSE of zionism so that's still the root of the problem
@@kaorufan8 That’s incorrect. Do you believe that Jews have the right to identify in their own original homeland?
@@deborahbluhm8828 white Jews from Flatbush by way of Poland/Russia/Ukraine/Hungary/England/France do not come from North Africa or the Middle East. Their ancestors were in Europe for so many centuries they're the colour of copy paper. So no. They're just doing standard colonial bullshit because they're colonizers.
@@kaorufan8 😳 I can’t believe I’m hearing this from a Jew 😅 you can’t colonise your own homeland. You don’t seem to know your own history?! At the time of the Roman empire’s conquest and colonisation of The Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, the Romans took a lot of the Jews as POW’s/slaves and shipped us to Rome to build the Roman coliseum and the rest of the city. They recorded four Jewish women at the time of the conquest at a Roman port. So that was one of our first entries into Europe. Do you not think Jews have a right to a homeland for safety and protection? Our own army? Football team’s? Judiciary?
Andrew on your show regarding child sacrifice, there is a person claiming Jews are the people killing the children as religious sacrifice. That is the epitome of hate speech, isn't it?
Yes it is Tracy ! The blood libel that everyone knows was a forgery but still continue to push. Very sad.
It has been removed. Thx Andrew
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We love you Andrew regardless of any gene or religion you grew up in, just saying.
Thank you!
I'm Catholic. The Jews are literally Jesus's cousins, so whenever I meet people of the Jewish Faith I always feel like bowing. As we worship Christ The King, it's kinda like I'm meeting members of the Royal Family
As a fellow Catholic (though somewhat lapsed) we have to be honest though and accept that the Catholic Church and Christianity in general from the 6th Century onwards has not always taken such a positive view of Jews... Christ killers etc.
I always learn things here Andrew. Loved this interview!!
I am so sheltered! Growing up Jewish for you, and you are so young, is fascinating to hear your experience and fears growing up Jewish, and that wasn't that long ago.
No, I didn't know that anti-Semitism is growing in the United States. Isn't that because right wing extremists are growing in numbers? But the general population doesn't care if you're Jewish or not. Right? I am unaware.
One of my former managers is Jewish. He changed the pronunciation of his name from David to Daveed. I never asked him, but assumed it was out of pride. That was a positive.
I need to read more on the subject.
Andrew, during your last Q/A I asked you how you celebrate Xmas and I referred to you as an atheist (jew.) Sorry about that. Guess that came out sounding derogatory.
it didn't, i'm not too sensitive and jew shouldn't be bad! don't you worry :)
Elizabeth you are right in the opinion that the extremism is partially at fault for the growing antisemitism in the US, but is also the feeling of displacement that has occurred in our society as well as easy access to weapons of war. I agree that if more was done to educate people about other cultures, to see the beauty and dignity in them, it would be a better world.
There’s lots of antisemites on the American left these days but they tend to be more anti Zionists unfortunately.
Bob Zimmerman - Bob Dylan
What is your point?
@@innervisions1828 it’s obvious, he changed his name from a Jewish name.
I'm a Jewess, and I am ashamed of how some Jews behave. I am ashamed of their intolerance and narrow mindedness, but at the same time am angry at those people that are intolerant of us. There's so many contradictions that I have experienced being a Jew and have in fact felt repressed by my own Jewish community. I have seen my parents humiliated by them despite the fact that they were (they are no longer alive) initially loyal to the community. My mother became an atheist. My father died a pauper because of a Jewish business man that out did him and his 'loyal Rabbi' that refused to help him get he's money back. Yes I saw the very ugly side of my own tribe, and their assistance after the fact does not bring back all the years I lost.
What you describe, your anecdote as it were, could have happened to anyone regardless of ethnicity or religion. You lack the ability to think critically.
@@innervisions1828 perhaps you lack the ability to have empathy and to listen to and understand as you call it an 'anecdote' which I call my personal life experience, no it's not a story of words, it was lived experientially and so was the pain of it. This certainly has nothing to do with critical thinking as you put it when a community is not listening to you. You have participated and added your voice in being judgemental. So in my opinion not helpful. I refuse to shut down and not speak this truth, because you need to criticize it in some way . The only 'part truth' to your comment is that it happens in any religion or community, difference being that the Jewish community and the Jewish experience is unique to itself.
It never occurred to me that someone Jewish would be ashamed to be one. It is hard to think of another ethnic group that has contributed more to society than they have. Generally speaking, they have much to be proud of.
thank you g s! i guess we all have our hangups right? :)
I enjoy your show a lot. No one should be ashamed of their heritage. People are people. No one should be hated because of their background. Everyone has value and deserved to be respected.
thank you connie, i appreciate that!!
You should interview Rabbi Lapin and Kosher money
Please don’t ever be ashamed.
I am English and not a jew but I have never heard any one use jew or Jewish in a negative connotation.
I have known many people of various faiths over the years and I really don't care, I consider a person based on their actions and how they treat others, not based on religion, race, sex etc.
The example you made of a TV villain called Goldberg is suspect , I would ask how many Christian or other religions can be a villain in a months TV.
If you see one villain called Goldberg in I month I suggest it's probably preportional to other denomination's.
I am not suggesting there is not discrimination, I am sure there is.
I suspect the Jewish people are very understandably sensitive following the various pogroms in past history. I think the horrendous way they have been treated has possibly left a lasting mark.(understandable).
I had hoped we were beyond this.
As a society I think most people don't care but the entertainment / media / social media seem to be accentuating differences between people and driving wedges between people.
Also if most of your talk to the media is about being a Jew I don't think it's a surprise that it becomes the thing you are known for, this would then give you the impression that that's all it's about.
I’ve heard it a million times. And Jews are pro rata the most discriminated against group in the uk. Look it up. Most people are not racist though!
Must be hard being constantly oppressed and feeling sorry for yourselves. It's been a hard life for David and for the rest of us who had to suffer his awful England world cup songs.
It's sad that you feel you have to hide your heritage Andrew. I can understand due to the hate that's still around.
My father in law never really told us too much of his jewish heritage. He wasn't a practicing jew and he to seemed ashamed. He didn't get on too well with his parents so I never met them.
I know that they came to London from Poland. Much wasn't spoken about which is sad as its good to know your families history.
My mother in law was christian, although her mother was originally from Belgium and a catholic.
My husbands eldest brother became a Jehovas Witness when he turned 16.
So it's a mixed bunch on my husbands side whereas mine were all christian as far as I know. Not all practising.
My parents were atheist. My dad I would say more so. My mum was sort of newage/spiritual.
We moved last year and discovered that our neighbour was also from the same area as my husbands grandparents! Such a small world.
Thanks Steph!
Jews didn’t suffer in employment opportunities? ask Soviet Jews. and why only recent times… look deeper into history, look wider on the world. you will find everything.
I think perhaps after hundreds of years of being discriminated against, the Jewish community has taken on the shame of it. Would you be ashamed to say you were Catholic, or Baptist? Many of us have Jewish history and don’t even know it.
I think you're right Kathy!
People do insult Roman Catholics and Evangelicals to some extent, but I think antisemitism is more prevalent and more intense than prejudice to Christians.