Ukraine: Gorbachev warns of escalating conflict
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- East-West relations are more strained than ever as a result of the Ukraine conflict. Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev warned of the consequences of an arms build-up in an exclusive interview with Swiss public television. (SRF/swissinfo.ch)
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This aged well 7 years later
This was when it really started th-cam.com/video/pKcmNGvaDUs/w-d-xo.html
@@everready2903 this is very sad
@@johnny_boi5456 russia is defending herself Россия №1
@@smalls5001 .Yes they said that about Germany in 1937
@@smalls5001 Nazi Germany was defending itself from Czechoslovakia and Poland. Hitler even presented a poster with range of Czechoslovak bombers (550 km) and that they can reach all of Nazi Germany, a thus it is a "LEGITIMATE SECURITY CONCERN".
with very high respect to this man, who is one of the key players to end the cold war. God bless you, sir Mr.Gorbachev
Mr. Gorbachev is the man who ended the cold war. It's certainly not Reagan, that's just a myth created by American republicans in order to create a cult around that trickle down economics debacle actor/president of theirs.
And he gave Russia pizza hut
@@brynnemeza HAIL GORBACHEV!!
He ended the thing that the majority of Russians want back. Because of him Russia's wealth inequality sky rocketed, workers lost several worker rights including their work place democracy, they lost affordable housing which in turn brought back homelessness and now they have a nationalist dictator. Such a "great" leader. The USSR wasn't the evil communist shithole you think it is.
Millions of dead Russians and Soviets disagree
He was only good for you Americans you dont care for the millions of Soviets who died due to the collapse
Genius. Few know the struggle of keeping peace in a world of maniacs.
Psychopathy is the #1 issue humans/humanity face. Without solving it everything else is pointless.
@@jsmdnq early detection is the only answer. We kind of withdrew from the psychoanalytic thread about 50 years ago because of conflating it with atheism, but a lot of things they believed were correct. Witness a lot of women today wanting to be men. And there really isn't any respect for feminine virtues like there used to be. I guess you could call that penis envy, but sadly the idea is laughed at today in academia when it's being proven is real existentially.
The maniac system of capitalist economics demands imperialism, exploitation, wars and conflicts. Strange that people like yourself never grasp that you too are a maniac.
@@DrMontague Every human is a maniac... it is a matter of degree. We are all born in this psychopathic system... the problem is that some of us realize this and realize there is a better way but cannot stop the biggest psychopaths that are destroying humanity. The fact that you are taking it out on a lesser psychopath proves you are more of a psychopath.
@@DrMontague under my brutal totalitarian regime you will be placed into a hard labor prison for crimes against the state. Your degree is as useless as you.
Somehow people never, ever listen and just call others crazy when they tell the truth.
U must be talking about the US
@@lendzemojoachimkimeng1318 you are a greate example
thanks
@@edofluit6568 the US supported the Argentina military dictatorship that was responsible for the Falklands War. They invaded the Middle East and messed it up. They tried to stop communism by invading countries and tried to destroy them. They literally nuked a country twice without letting them respond in time and to show off their nukes to the Soviets. The US is no angel buttercup. You should seriously open your eyes and stop. If you think the US is the protector of humanity, you’re no different than the Europeans during colonization of the Americas, Africa, and Asia in order to spread Christianity because they are good, while in reality they exploited the f out of them, and screwed them up today. The US only gets involved in other countries when it benefits them and their goals.
@@GigaSigmaChadOmega jokes on you im not going to read that, cause you probably dont understand what i said/meant
@worldwild world rotschilds and company, they rule america, big concerns and cia, black eagle funding for egsample. Biden is their puppet . Media make a great show for masses, they bad, we ate the good one. The truth is, both are not good but america is worse. And china is also now a strong country, much worse cruel politics in china that are not fealing with own people and worse things they do.
Sadly, Mr. Gorbachev passed away. He warned us about this and he was absolutely right. Rest in peace Mr. Gorbachev. At least you will finally see your beloved Raisa now...
He will see his beloved Russia crush and decimate Ukraine
@@yurichtube1162 Still no Bakhmut?
@@NotMe-bz9pl Bakhmut is already fallen. It was a long battle of attrition.
@@yurichtube1162 Not yet, since about the same time last year. You took a few blocks today, hooray!!! 2nd army of the world!
@@NotMe-bz9pl It's a war of attrition. Attrition is the goal, not land. Russia doesn't mind taking it slow, as long as Ukraine's male population drops.
This has helped me understand alot more what's happening today
To add to it you could listen to John Mearsheimer " Why Ukraine is the West´s fault " here on YT
@jim Crimea was never really Ukrainian, Nikita Khrushchev " gave " Crimea to Ukraine. To talk about Russian invasion in to Crimea is just silly.
Great background video here th-cam.com/video/pKcmNGvaDUs/w-d-xo.html
Wow Slava th-cam.com/video/fE1MzPcJmiU/w-d-xo.html
Just watch it here on TH-cam, I think there is now a lecture in English by dr Daniele Ganser about the 2014 coup in the Ukraine, and then you will understand the whole context of why we are in the situation now where we are, this conflict has been raging for 8 years, if not longer.
1:46 Gorbachev “greatest danger is from military industrial complex” - an echo of Eisenhower speech. Gorbachev says after cold war was over, and found we could get along, this was spoiled and they drew us back into a new Cold War - he was blaming the military industrial complex. He means the defense industry in our respective countries inflames worries so their busibesss can stop defense budget cuts.
and now today we realise, he was right.
edit: my comment now makes no sense because the title of the video was edited and I cant remember the original
Any chance we could have a revolution and get gorbachev back in power
@@kobra6660 let's hope
@@garryhowes7274 I hope this and heavy bankrupt russia because putin needs to go and gorbachev could did a better job at keeping peace between the east and the west
@@kobra6660 agreed.
@@kobra6660 I like your idea but Gorbachev is 91 years old. I'm from the UK but I like this man. He seems so wise, that I wonder if he's not from this world.
He seems like an incredibly reasonable and level-headed man... unlike the leaders we have running our most powerful countries today...
He literally ruined his country.
Mighty sad!
@@FfFf-np6rs How so?
@@FfFf-np6rs Sure bro, you know better than he does. Maybe you should run for president.
@@gjallarnews140 you don't need to be a good chef to understand that the food is poorly cooked
Gorbachev is a wise man. It now shows again.
He was that rare thing - a genuinely good politician.
@@appledoreman exactly! we need more politicians like him nowadays.
@@Donknowww Just watched a documentary on him, very humble origins. So sad to see Putin undo all his good work.
Gorbachev is not wise. His surrender to the west and utter political and economic incompetence turned the world's second industrial, scientific and military superpower into a bunch of poor crumbling nations.
@@ilyatsukanov8707 the soviet union was already way behind when Gorbachev came, an embarassing economic stability based on only prime material and huge importation from foreign countries that still is present today.
How can you not respect this man and his humanity
Well his corruption and choices are the reason we have Putin.
He was literally the worst thing to happen to the Soviet union
@@YiddishPartisan45 right and the soviet union was a bad thing to happen to humanity so the original commenter is right
@@lolaboyle5225 according to who lol
@@zorghonplayer6790 according to the great terror and the 18 million people who went to the gulag from 1928-53
Sensible man: we are facing so many urgent problems, but we are being forced into arms' race.
Voice of reason; voice of peace. What a shame the west didn’t follow Mikhail Gorbachev‘s lead, We fell back into our prejudice our floating anxiety and racist fears. We allowed ourselves to be manipulated by those who would make money out of conflict. Wake up people.
What a shame Putin didn't allow democracy for sovereign contries.
@@flyingfrog7847 what a shame "sovereighn country bans russian language a s shells its own covilians 14k killed thus far
@@flyingfrog7847 yes , monster Putin is nothing like the u.s. , where we honor and respect elected governments...........
@@gaylandbarney2231 Idk about honor and respect...
Because Putin followed Gorbachev's advice? lol
We need him more today
Bet Americans want him back to split Russia into 10 countries
@@salahabdalla368 And that would be what is needed!
Russia is too big, centralized politics is not good.
@@karadiberlino what country do you live in? I wanna take a look and decide how to split it. freaking democrats
Ukraine is the result of the wrong split of USSR. Your comment only shows that you have no idea what you're talking about
Great advise. What these 3 horrific weeks thought me- how fragile is humanity when you have uncapable leaders, from West,East, South. People safe humanity.
I wake up in the middle of the night, Google Zelenskyy to make sure he’s alive, then check for further needless decimation, then stay awake until the next night when I fall asleep to early then do it again. How is Putler still in power? All this for a small man with a fragile ego trying to make a name for himself. It’s insane!
@@joancrawford1146 ask yourself how it came to this....if no one is listening you then one has to take matter in his hands...
There were 2 options for russia either accept ukraine joining nato and let nato borders reach their doorstep or take action...
If not for Putin some other russian president would have done the same thing...
Russia is not japan.they have never lost in world wars.neither 1 nor 2 they defeated napoleon they defeated hitler..do you think they will accept this condition without any retaliation...
If u are sad for ukraine wait till Finland tries to join nato...you will see the same in Finland...but this time it won't take 30 days...it would take 5 days...
USA bombed Iraq for 40 days and Serbia for 30 days before entering in war...russia entered without bombing...you think he will enter finland without bombing..naa he will bomb the finland or sweden or for any country close to its border and they try to join nato...nobody wants enemies on its doorstep...and this time if ww3 started somehow due to USA stupidity...one thing I am sure is there will be no WW4
@@LD-gi3kq
That's silly.
@@joancrawford1146 dude thats what western media says too but the west broke a promise and armed ukraine. Im not here to say putin is right but you need to take all the facts and learn some history
This has taught me how fragile humanity is when you have just ONE incapable leader (Putin)
God bless you, Gorbachev. Thank you for this interview.
Gorbachev knew something that we dont , he was the last Soviet Leader . He knows everything about the country , he knows everything of what would happen after USSR collapsed , he broke up the country to avoid Civil War in the USSR .
@jim thats the thing... its now more than obvious that Russia is trying to expand and export its system of power with fossiles. Not something you do in 1 or 2 years. Also this arms race i dont like to see it, especially in western europe, which is shielded with nato and has more resources than central europe which will in any event by only battlefield.
West has provoked Russia
" to avoid Civil War in the USSR" how you come to this stupid idea? Because civil wars started immediately in every country of post ussr and some of them still not ended (armenia and azerbaidzan for example).
@@simonmeszaros2770 "trying to expand" second most idiotic thing I heard here. Russia triyng to stop expanding of Nato. These guys joined poland and baltics. And planned to build anti-icbm around russia border to counter only one thing that keep world from WW3 - mutual destruction. If they finish system in Ukraine and Finland - USA can counter few ICMBs from submarines that probably not-countered by anti-icbm around of russian borders and make another Hiroshima from russian capital cities. Knowing how powerful they are in PR - world will turn blind eye on american warcrimes like it was with Vietnam, Iraq and dozens of arabian countries. Everybody knows about Guantanamo torture camp and how much americans payed for that? Nothing. Its still works
it is not him who broke up the country but yeltsin
A great man! It's a pity there weren't more leaders like him-the world would be a better place.
I wish Gorbachev 2.0 upon your country. Let the new Gorbachev split your country into dozen of pieces, have economic collapse and dozen of wars on former territory of your country.
And I will call Gorbachev 2.0 a great man because he will make the world better place.
The economic collapse was not his fault
@@wasssssuppppppp It was fault of his reforms. He managed to destroy planned economy (photos of empty shelves and giant lines are photos from Gorbachev era) and didn't manage to replace it with anything functional.
That's why at the end of his rule nobody in USSR liked him and nobody tried to protect him.
For example a lot of Ukrainians voted for independence because they believed that by voting for independence they vote against Gorbachev.
My father once asked Donbass guys who voted for independence.
"Guys, do you understand that you destroy our country?"
"You don't understand, we vote not against USSR, we vote against Gorbachev"
He was hated by everyone. And for a reason. He was a total failure of a ruler. A failure a country gets once per several centuries. A total disaster.
There's a way to reform without completely shattering everything you were supposed to be responsible for lmaooo. Look at Deng Xiaoping. Regardless of the bad things the CCP does, that's a way better example of a smart and competent leader
@Martin Skovgaard property rights don't apply to geopolitics lmao
Thank you very much. Now I could understand why Gorbachev was a smart, good politician.
He triggered the collapse of his country, the people who lived through the consequences won't agree.
He had to reduce military spending while keeping a lid on hard liners and liberalising parts of the economy. What followed the coup was a power grab to be the ones to profit from state assets and monetise government positions.
He is smart but not a good politician!
He is a traitor of russian People that's why he living in Germany.
@@dejansamardzija9370 He's a good politician. He ended the wretched USSR.
@@marmac83 you are wretched
Unfortunatly gorbachev died yesterday on 30th of august 2022 he brought peace to russia. May he rest in peace🇷🇺
One of our greatest world leaders of history. 🤔
Gorbachev came to Adelphi University where I had one of hundred invitations to sit and listen to him talk. He truly was and still is inspirational full of insight and intelligence; he set the Russian people free
Now he speaks like Dwight Eisenhower beware of the military industrial (congressional) complex unwarranted power
Agreed. Too many of our countrymen here in the US are ignorant of history, and many more are just plain ignorant.
@@fjm1235 Ignorance is bliss Frank. Knowing the truth in this world will make you depressed...
He didn't set anyone free. He failed to reform country, he destroyed his own country, he let drunktard grab power from him.
As a result of his policies millions died from economic collapse in 90s. As a result of his policies we have had dozens of wars on territory of former Soviet Union.
He is a total failure.
I wish anyone who praises him to have similar Gorbachev for their country.
Judging by the comments I am reading in this section, Russians do not share your view of him. They don’t see him as somebody who set them free. They see him as somebody who broke up their country and made a mess of things.
He sounds like a cool guy
You will be surprised, here in Russia most of the people does not like Gorby because they see him as a traitor and the guy, whose deeds have led to a break of the soviet union, mighty and united space pioneer and nazi-crusher.
Stay safe, I wish peace for you all.
The break-up of the Soviet Union was decided primarily by the individual republics who did not want to live under Russian administration. We are talking dozens of peoples. Why would you want to bring, with force, tens of millions of unwilling people under a reprewsive regime again, one that only looks for Russian interests and not that of the individual republics'?
Tell me in what way does that make you a good person?
How can someone look in the mirror and conclude they are reasonable when thinking that?
In hindsight, he was a fool. Obviously he seems well-intended, but foolish enough that peace would ensue post-Soviet. So of course he should be ridiculed, not for his character but for his strategy.
@@empyrionin who knows.
@@empyrionin There was not regime, cold war ended and capitalism system won. Gorbachov avoided a bloodshed, and im not talking about firearms, im talking about thermonuclear war to begin with, end of the world that means, beyond that many lives saved in Germany, Poland, all of those states, had people willing to kill for the soviet union, only Gorbachov stoped them.
@@raultalmon1467 In Germany nor Poland noone would have killed for the soviet union. Greetings from Germany and relatives in Poland.
Bravo,!! He is correct. I hope the World is watching him ,what he saying!!!!👏👏
Any Russian leader wld hv taken e same stance Putin tuk ,,,, its a matter of national security
That is corect but so many people don't realize that...they just project they're fellings to a country president
People are easily brainwashed by western media.
They should have refrained invasion and annexation of crimea if they are concerned about national security. The country is neutral until they disregarded it's sovereignity. They seek aid from the west for defense but that could not happen if the annexation did not happen. Russian treated Ukranians inferior all these years, wil not blame them if they chose to be a part of EU. Moscow hated that because they think they own Ukraine and all the countries in their borders.
@@christianrazvan I hope all the suffering and pain that Ukrainians are going through is inflicted on you a thousand times over
The matter of national security would be removing the Soviet legacy regime that is in power in Russia. The communist war criminal regime was never a legitimate government of Russia, it's an illegitimate regime that took over Russia with a coup d'etat and mass murder of Russians and other Europeans
The soviet trash isn't a nation, neither is the dictatorship that is still running Russia. Russia died when the bolsheviks usurped power with their ILLEGITIMATE coup.
Great man...miss people with intelligence
Wish the world had more leaders like Gorbachev.
The best the world could do to reduce the risk of conflict and war is to nationalize all military industry. There is no other industry that is as corrupt, despite the fact that Sweden counts as one of the countries with the least corruption, yet almost all corruption scandals are linked to the military industry. Then you can easily imagine what it looks like in the rest of the world where the military industry is significantly larger.
Ironic how your comment doesn't get more likes, it makes a lot of sense though. The shit western countries happily sell to countries like Saudi Arabia is all the result of this insanely harmful corrupt idiocy that is the miltary industry complex...
Problem is that military industry is more effecient went its private. Effective military industry comes handy to goverments. The problems with corruption are often in military industry because they sell mostly to goverments (they have enormous motivation to corrupt politicians)
@@djri2984 Agrea, But I believe that a world with less war industry is a prerequisite for humanity to survive is the most important thing. And that we take care of the earth as soon as possible.
@@lassel1344 I agree that lowering size of war industry would great thing, but Im afraid that nationalazing industry would just led to goverments having same amount of weapons but spending more on military.
@@djri2984 What are our options? What is your suggestion?
What I do know is that here in Scandinavia, the tax money does not want to be enough for everything that society needs. That is why I believe that politicians are willing to reduce money for the military once the Ukraine conflict has subsided.
You are a true leader and a legend bring down the wall.
Mr. General Secretary,Gorbachev, please name the oligarchs, who are agitating this new conflict.
Monroe Doctrine during Cuban Missile Crisis was exercized by the US, and now by the Russia. Prof. Mearsheimer’s lecture about Ukraine at Uni. of Chicago 6 years ago would explain all of your questions and more within 1 hour
He's literally responsible for creating them
Sometimes I wish the ussr never collapsed and gorbachev was still in power he could've handled this better
Well, he wouldn't have bombed Ukraine for starters.
Only one part don’t make peace you need a counterpart to balance things and we need someone like Reagan in the US 🤷🏼♂️
I tend to agree with you but I don’t know how Gorbachev could have stopped NATO expansion and continued threats. I think Putin is handling it masterfully. He is steady, diplomatic like Gorby but strong enough to stop the West. I’m from the west- I can tell you we are mad crazy and violent but we don’t know it. That’s how dangerous we are...
No, Gorbachev lack realpolitik mastery which is why Russia is project what it is now.
bruv there would not be any situation in the first place, USSR incld's ukraine
Was the breakup of the Soviet union constitutional? 3 head of state signed an agreement to break out. Is that legitimate?
Yes
It was not. USSR held a referendum and majority voted to save it.
@@netyimeni169 that referendum (march 1991) asked to keep union as renewed federation, not saving USSR. When old commies tried a coup against it (August 1991) all republics agreed to dissolve USSR and severe every links among them. Dissolving USSR was perfectly legal, so tell what happened exactly, please.
@@netyimeni169 the majority of russians. The occupied countries always wanted to be out and vast majority agreed with that
Was the formation of the Soviet Union constitutional? No, because they did it by force, or by proxy by leaders who betrayed their people.
Why are ALL the interviews with Gorbachev so short, most seem to last 5 minutes or less. Is the rest of the interview censored or cut?
He is praised by west and US not by Soviets
Brilliant man of intelligence ; he had come to Adelphi University where l had the privilege to listen to him among hundred other guests.
Military Industrial Complex
"""In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." Dwight D. Eisenhower
He was right and three years later jfk brains were lying in Dallas street. The take over was complete and democracy was dead.
@@rudymontana4515 It was the freemasons..They tried to kill me 7 times..It was executive order 11110. This is why they killed him. The first thing Mr.LBJ Texas city lodge did was repealed it .
The last part of this interview was the last part regarding sanctions. Things will get even "better", when people around the world will gradually realize they have to lift the heavy burden of more sanctions than originally announced by the US President...before the war.
The greatest threat comes from the military industrial complex 1.45
Quoting President,and General of the Army Dwight David Eisenhower! (On January 17, 1961 in his Farewell speech)
This man and Reagan had the wisdom to not start wars , that wisdom is badly lacking today especially on the western side
Add Trump to that short list
Gorbachev was better than they deserved
And they still hate him
he looks wiser than what he was back in time... I wish he hasn't felt into the trap of the US by dismantling the USSR.
Good. That evil empire deserved it’s destruction.
@@wyattmcgee1 evil ? Lol US evil empire was scared of this powerful empire
@@wyattmcgee1 watch The False Promise of Liberal Hegemony by Prof. Mearsheimer at Yale. USA have been warmongering all over the world in the name of democracy (Iran, Syria, Libya etc.) 😂. Yet, they’ve never touched a hair of Saudi Arabia which’s also under dictatorship.
@@soufianemess7681 the USSR ethnically cleansed and genocided its way through historical German and Polish land. It also exploited its own population for money. It was a horrific state.
@@daspotato895 And what about the USA? Same old evil if not worse, just through different means.
Absolute legend. This is a great man.
The translation is not full. Some words are omitted.
так и есть!
There are no solution to differences among the nations in this life time due to egocentrism. Lets set that aside. It is set to be solved in the next life, but people can come together in common terms and build peaceful relations with one another.
He was clearly a better leader than Reagan
Gorbachev, the right man at the wrong time
If he was the leader of the USSR in 1975, and had at least 10-20 years to reform the USSR. Then perhaps, an Autocratic semi Capitalistic USSR would exist today, no communist of course, but something like what is Russia right now, but still having all the former Soviet countries in a united Federation.
No! He was the right man at the right time!
@@nodinitiative
Would have, could have, should have NONSENSE!
Gorbachev, The Right Man In The Wrong Place. He Made All The Difference. And As He Foretold, In Feb 24 2022, Russia Invaded Ukraine.
1:19 Putin is being provocked into upholding the arms race...
- Gorbachev interview 2014
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Пытался достучаться до обеих сторон, но никто его не слушал. И теперь мы стоим в нескольких шагах от уничтожения человечества. Как же дорого нам обходиться нам наша собственая глупость...
This is in part his fault. His faliures and mistakes lead to the end of USSR, this war would never happen with both Russia and Ukraine as part of USSR.
@@libertarioreal9433 easy to say. It is not like 1 man can do everything
We're not going to die yet. People are just overreacting, like usual. It's just another conflict, no different to Karens arguing against stall managers, and last time I've checked, that never led to the end of the world, no matter how seriously both sides got 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@@libertarioreal9433
This war wouldn't happen, but you can rest assured plenty more would have happened instead. Wars don't end just because something exists or doesn't exist. Wars happen because we human beings have never really learnt how to get along, and we won't for centuries, if not millennia.
We're under the curse of the tower of Babel, where people don't understand each other, because we have all rebelled against our own Creator. Until we all make Him our common King, there will be no end to war until the end of humanity.
@@libertarioreal9433 And more than likely Baltic States would be where Ukraine is now (and we have been there by the way)
It’s not his fault that countries don’t want to be part of Russia - we have our own culture and language. Period.
It is however very ignorant and stupid what you said.
What East-West division were they talking about here? There's only Europe and Russia.
Civilized World vs Russia
This was a great man who wanted peace ☮️ 🙏🏽👍🏼👏❤️🇺🇦🙌🏼The last of the good humanitarians of Russia 🇷🇺
RIP to the people who thought that Putin just woke up one day and decided to invade Ukraine
In Vietnam our soldiers fought the Chinese did we say anything about it. We fought against Chinese weaponry did you here us raise any hell about that.
Too bad that Gorbachev was literally the worst thing to happen to the USSR
Worse than corn boi?
@@anghuyphamnguyen3096 much worse
Main thing that everybody tend to neglect is the fact that USSR after Stalin and Russia were and are countries whose internal politics was always invaded, countries which US and EU constantly tried to ruin. They succeeded once. When Putin put end to it - sanctions appeared. And on the contrary US is the only country who is ruled only from the inside. Specifically US and GB were main beneficiaries of most wars.
So double standards is the real key to all problems. The fact that Australia is yelling like crazy when China tries to put military base on Solomon Islands. Australia says "NO, it's our red line". Red line lies 2000 kilometers away from their borders. And Russia can't say anything about red lines when it's 0 inches away from its borders.
Gorbachev is right about needed negotiations and contacts on the highest level. And please take a look who's refusing to talk and who is benefiting from sending more and more weapons into poor Ukraine. And also who lies constantly (this can be seen if you compare words and facts several yers after any conflict).
Ukraine will pass, everyone will forget about it, Ukrainians will pay credits to US which they get every day and next war will start. Russia will again be demon and US will again be angels in their media field.
Comrade!--Muscovy (now called the RuZZian Federation) didn't expand just with the hot air of Kremlin lies!---Muscuvy waged countless wars of destruction in order to expand its empire in order to become the largest state on the planet---And still it is not enough,--so it attacks Georgia, Moldova, and Ukraine!
But of course the idiots will always fall for the propaganda double-speak.
Freedom is slavery
War is peace
Ignorance is strength
George Orwell 1984
We know they are lying.
They know they are lying.
They know that we know they are lying.
We know that they know that we know they are lying.
And still they continue to lie.
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
This guys is ubiquitous. Amazed of his third-wheel skills. Type of a guy who can say a lot about everything but mean nothing.
this man should have been president today
here's southeast asian voice we have history of being occupied by the west imperialist colonialist for centuries,followed shortly for decades period of japanese invasion i (not sure my other countrymen)had learnt enough from the past not from history book but from those elderly who survived..for this i say putin has no choice but decide the hard one.
yeah people around the world know and have seen the evil of the west for centuries (mainly the British, US, France), when i hear them talking about human rights i don't know whether i want to laugh or hit my head in a wall
Exactly. If you want to learn more about the background of the Ukraine conflict, please watch on TH-cam Prof. Mearsheimer’s lecture about Ukraine 6 years ago. Also if you have interest about the international interferences of the US (and NATO), watch his lecture about the False Promise of Liberal Hegemony at Yale.
8 years our beloved Politicians had to come to an agreement with Russia. Shame on them.
This man's soul was a pacifist in his heart ... he knew that if the cold war was still going one, there will be nuclear WAR !
If only the caliber of such political individuals were alive today. 1990 was the demarcation point. Everything went downhill from there.
I miss him so much
To all of the hallucinating responders below who claim this would have happened or that would have happened:
The Gang of Eight wanted to restore the power of the KGB and the old Soviet System (not letting the former SSR's secede)---they tried to coup twice but failed then finally after poisoning Yeltsin (Yeltsin was a drunk--that was normal--but poisoned and drunk made him sick and look weird) they installed the KGB Putler as his successor!--internal coup!--They would have done the same to Gorbachev if need be!
not sure what you are talking about...
'The Gang of Eight is a colloquial term for a set of eight leaders within the United States Congress who are briefed on classified intelligence matters by the executive branch'. ...wants to restore KGB?
Yeltsin caused Russia to turn into chaos with no law and order, frightening the whole world because everything could happen with Russia's arms and weapons probably being traded on the black markets. Yeltsin paved the way for a strong (authocratic) leader like Putin.
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You spew the Putler poo!
I was talking about the Gang of Eight in Moscow----naturally you trolls try to twist everything back to the USA! So please stop with the stupidity!
Read up on the coup attempts by those RuZZians (Gang of Eight) who wanted to restore the Soviet Union at the end of Gorbachev's rule!
Yeltsin did not cause chaos---Comrade!---RuZZia was in shambles in 1991---that is why it broke apart! The KGB and others attempted to coup Yeltsin, but it failed--they later poisoned him and got him to install their man Putler as his successor!
@@naalsocomment9449
GKChP), was a group of eight high-level Soviet officials within the Soviet government, the Communist Party, and the KGB, who attempted a coup d'état against Mikhail Gorbachev on 19 August 1991. American publicist Georges Obolensky also called it the Gang of Eight.
@@WangAiHua How should one know you don't refer to the generally known term for the guys in US senate but some phrase by some Obolensky, with no information available about him. Georges doesn't seem to exist. Maybe Serge? Or Alexander Obolensky (law maker at the time of the coup)?
So you don't know the name of the guy who you quote.
You use a phrase that probably doesn't exist. Beside the title of an article in Washington Post in 1991 written by D Ramnick, which is not related to (any) Obolensky at all.
There doesn't seem to be any source indicating Yeltsin was poisoned.
But somehow the coup at the time of Gobarchev (1991), who imprissoned the coup leaders, is the reason why Yeltsin was poisoned. Yeltsin then gave up his presidency 8 years (1999) later and died 16 years (2007) later, because of being poisoned in 1991?
And it seems you underestimate the complexity and the significance of the economic crisis in Russia 1998. Like eight guys not being able to coup but they were able to crumple the currency and economy of Russia? Why? They already 'poisoned' Yeltsin?!
Sorry all this doesn't add up and don't make any sense. Feel free to point me to some materials. I didn't search for long as it seems there was nothing to find. So maybe I missed something.
Where are the Gorbachev s of this world today? Find me one person in the sanctimonious US government who expresses such wisdom.
I'm not sure what he was really trying to say. It's was an effort to not say stuff.
And people weren't careful. Above all, the USA with NATO and the EU were not the aggressors in the last eight years and are now responsible for the current catastrophic situation, not only in Ukraine, but in general in the whole world economic sanctions, rising prices, energy problems, etc.
No. Putin is responsible.
Don't land grab. Even the USA don't land grab
@@Lala-kc2fw Learn history, learn the background, every conflict has a history, including this one. And the history has been going on for at least eight years, so at least 2014. Learn what happened in Donbass, learn about NATO's eastward expansion and so on and so forth. Learn about the story and the background. Is it that hard? Nowadays? In the age of TH-cam and the Internet?
But no matter how educated you are or how intelligent you are, if you don't have the ability to self-reflect or change your perspective, however intelligent and educated you may be, it's no use to you. Imagine if there were a new Warsaw Pact and Cuba and Mexico and Canada would join it, so the USA would be surrounded by Russian military alliances, and 500 km from Washington there would be a Russian military base, 150 km from Miami there would be another Russian military base . On the coasts of New York and Los Angeles, the Russians would conduct military maneuvers with their warships. How would the US react to this? You saw that in 1962. But this is exactly the behavior that NATO has been doing right on Russia's doorstep since at least 20 years. And that's just a small part of the story.
@@Mister__Jey this isn't about USA vs Russia. It's about Europe.
Señores periodistas si la otan no siguiera expandiéndose en dirección de Rusia y con ayuda de usa poniendo bases armadas con misiles nucleares. Ahora estarían viviendo tiempo de paz en esa región.
Joe Biden of Soviet Union
A wise man speaks.
Gorby always was a clown - he bent over for the Yankee Doodles and created more problems by doing so!
Go back to blowing up stuff and killing cats!
His biggest mistake was not making deal of mutual neutrality in eastern europe in legal paperwork way, when he dissolved warsaw pact and umified germany. And now we all pay the price of risking ww3.
@@spearmint1570 You are an absolute imbecile. The top experts have been saying for decades that this was going to happen BECAUSE of the US. Just because Russia has nukes doesn't mean the US won't try to undermine it. You must be a CIA shill.
Show some respect to the man, it is you that is the clown - and an arrogant one at that.
The problem about deals with Russia is that Russia does not uphold them
What is unfortunate to history, is that Gorbachev didn`t have the opportunity to finish what he had started. The idea that there are two opposing blocks after the cold war has ended is a travesty of history and we will pay a heavy bill for it, through generations.
I wish Putin had asked him to speak to the UN security council and the current situation could have been stopped.
it wouldnt have worked but would have been a nice try
GORBATCHEV always said the truth to Americans, but they cheated on him...
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No, they don't listen to anyone - they just take orders from the USA-Israel
He should have spoke to Putin, not UN, not that he would listen though.
The question of whether NATO promised not to expand eastward was detailed by American economist Jeffrey Sacks in this video: th-cam.com/video/k_uyfb6OyZ8/w-d-xo.html
Jeffrey Sachs was a member of President Gorbachev's economic advisory group 34 years ago; he was an adviser to Yeltsin 31 years ago; he was an adviser to President Kuchma of Ukraine 30 years ago; an adviser to Yushchenko 27 years ago. He knows this story firsthand from the very beginning. And this story is about the expansion of NATO.
I like Gorbachev. He’s a decent guy. His heart is in the right place. Here also, he wants peace.
I wish he didn’t support Putin though. That I don’t like
no gorbachev is right
Look closer to home if you want to know the ones that keep causing wars
Putin wants to exercise Monroe Doctrine. The same doctrine that the US used during Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. Prof. Mearsheimer’s lectures about Ukraine at Uni. of Chicago 6 years ago and about the False Promise of Liberal Hegemony at Yale Uni. will explain the Ukraine conflict and the NATO/US expansion to eastern Europe. NATO were founded by US and UK to defence USSR. When USSR dissolved in 1991, NATO if they were honest, should also be dissolved the same year. No threat, no need a defence, it’s common sense, right? Yet, they have been moving to the east.
Does he have a choice? Look what's happened to other high profile people who crossed Putin.
This sounds like this was done present day
I read somewhere that the last good Tsar of Russia will be Mikhail Good. Now I have no doubt that this is the case. Darkness and crime have taken over our regions. Above all, of course, there is God. And He already knows why He is sending us this storm. It is also up to him when and how it will end. The rays of the sun from before the storm, of course, are very pleasant to see now. You are such a ray of sunshine. I wish you all the best and I will be happy for every day when you are still shining
Gorbachev was the best person for peace between the East and West he was just given broken system because of yeltsins changes
He is a piece of shit. One of powerless leaders of Russia.
@@user-nh5jy3rn9q So too your father, of your life...
God isn't going to save you, if he was he would have done it already. If you are not willing to stand and fight against the psychopaths they will thrive.
Se arrodilló y por eso estámos en este punto de inflexión.😢
ya, lets ask the guy who destroyed Russia what his opinion is?
How? Modern Russia maintains the same borders as the old Russian SFSR, there has been little change. Unless when referring to Russia you actually mean the Soviet Union, which included many more peoples than just the Russians, but I suppose they're not important, just possessions of Greater Russia.
@@venmis137 Ignore the idiots who post up these stupid comments
Eisenhower warned us about this 70 years ago.
HE IS THE GOOD MAN IN RUSSIA AND THE WORLD
NO! Just not as bad as his colleagues the Gang of Eight or Putler!
Perhaps he could eat a Pizza Hut to relief his anxiety
Nato fault
Finland and Sweden have a right to join NATO
He livef to see how really right he really is.
It will be a long time for the world to trust Russia again.
Russia is going east. To hell with Europe.
To be fair, not many trust China or even the US either. Fact is, no superpower today is "trustworthy" because of the kind of dirty stuff that they have to do in order to maintain that sort of power.
@@rsuriyop Dictators don't care about peoples rights
It is the West that hates Russia - the rest of the world is ok with him - it will be an even longer time before Russia ever trusts a western leader - they provoked all this - not Putin.
@@BernieHollandMusic total nonsense Putin is the one responsible and it really is the world not just the west
He was right
He should tell this woman that Nato (USA) should stop provoking Russia by financing this war and trying to install a military base in Ukraine
If we all can just respect PEACE🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏.And try to talk more.....
Traitor of Russia.
He saved everyone you silly goose. Massive civil wars would of outbursted it was unavoidable. You should thank him.
Oh god
Why tf Switzerland joined sactions? Are you giving up neutrality?
It was never neutral towards countries it didn't consider European. Sweden and Switzerland supported Germany in WW2 as well, unofficially of course.
@@bolerobolero5668 good point. They made money out of banking for Nazis.
@@gusjohnson1908 not only that, they supplied volunteers, resources, logistics, diplomatic contacts etc.
Great man. It's always the MIC.
You have got such wisdom...if only you can be president of Russia again...this war will never happen...
nonsense. putin said almost exactly same things. the west did not care.
The person that posted didn't even pay attention to the fact that Gorbachev basically said that Putin was being pushed into war by the West.
People just parrot what they hear and see on tv.
Btw he was never president of russia
this war is inevitable from 2014 according geopolitical chess game....there is very very high probability of nuclear war b/w usa, uk vs russia..
@@arfathossain8109 no there is not.
He begun this wars and he's apologizing now. What a hell?
he ended cold war peacefully. he never started any conflict.
To end this conflict just stop ruling over others as a superpower! Ask the Ukrainian people what they want, let they decide how they want to live and what leadership they want to follow. Its is not that complicate! They have already did that so just let them their sovereignty!
Grow up and do some research you clown!
Tell that to the Cubans too, my dear. They were free to decide whom they wanted to invite to their island, yet the US exercized Monroe Doctrine and threatened to start WWIII in 1962. Where was the outcry for them then and now 60 years later? Why could the US use Monroe Doctrine as an excuse and the world kept silence? Why are the world screaming to Russia when they too want to exercize the same Doctrine? Double standard as usual? Prof. Mearsheimer’s lecture about Ukraine at University of Chicago 6 years ago has been viewed 24 million times. I guess some of us have been awaken from the brainwash of CNN, BBC and sensational seeking MSM.
@@smurfiennes Stop too with this childish whataboutism. The people of Ukraine just want to be free to live there lives in freedom and peace and not to threaten Russia with atom bombs (what Russia is doing nowadays against the west, by the way, and not vis versa!)
I don't care what some professor is saying about wired geopolitics where people are just numbers, but listen to my common sense and conscience.
Russia is doing the fascist game now:
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, 1984
@@andreash7920 how you or I feel DOESN’T MATTER the world political conflict, my friend. The Iron Law says: the big countries do as they will, small countries suffer as they must. Cuba or Ukraine, USA or Russia… So next time, please VOTE wisely. Just maybe next time the US, UK and EU would have new leaders whom aren’t warmongers like Trump, and the world could pauze several years in peace. 🤞🤞🤞 Each country should follow his policy America First. It’s been too long that the US/NATO have been committing wars in the name of liberal hegemony (democracy).
@@andreash7920 your quote from Orwell whilst listening to western MSM like religion and ignoring the history, is kind of funny. Double standard as usual or plain ignorant? Chery picking whom you see as invader? 🙄
It was 2015 already a war. Not a "conflict". Russia invaded Ukraine 2015!!!
*America
@@vex8133 😂
So, I can say Russia infiltrated Ukraine, made the Azov battalion and that their symbols and Z are the same. Made by Russia to for propaganda and provoking the Ultra nationalists.
@@vex8133 2018 Putin Troll? 🤣🥳
A TRIBUTE TO GORBACHEV
He had the absolute power
to destroy the lives of ordinary people.
He even had the power to destroy the world many times over.
He was worshipped like a demigod and
his command was obeyed like the word of god.
He had reached the point in his life where
nobody could question or disobey him...
but,
instead of abusing his power like his predecessors
He chose to use that power to serve mankind.
He chose humanity over despotism and
chose peace over war.
He saw people as equal to himself and
realised that people have as many rights as he does.
He felt the pain and suffering of ordinary people and
chose to change the demonic system
by giving people rights to live as free men...
It was his moral courage and his wisdom that made him take on the establishment knowing full well that he might end up paying the price with his life, and the total destruction of his family.
But he risked everything for a just cause.
I SALUTE TO HIS COURAGE, HIS WISDOM, AND HIS HUMANITY.
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Gorbatchev would never have launched a war against Ukraine
War is among west Ukraine and east Ukraine. West Ukraine prostituted with US while east Ukraine stays with Russia. Fucking bad situation.
@@loufestfos6588 I'm from eastern ukraine. You are wrong
@@daniyil4843 wrong with what?
@@loufestfos6588 imo, this is a proxy war. High ranking war-monger Member of Congress Adam Schiff said recently, Ukraine is fighting Russia over there so we don’t have to fight them here.” I think USA creates these wars mostly for weapons sales and “The military industrial complex.” But the need to make money from selling their gas to Europe in place of Russia can’t be underestimated. “Ukraine on fire,” is a documentary well worth watching to understand some of this. It’s on Rumble and Vimeo. TH-cam banned it. Western oligarchy 😏
@@gusjohnson1908 thank you! I also believe it's a proxy war but could escalate
I am even more alarmed right now
Gorbachev would have made Russia a better country if he was still in charge instead of Putin.
Gorbatchev recently said: "Putin have to finish what he started".... Gorbatchev supports Putin ;) No one could do better job than Putin. How do you think Russia could be a better country? By submitting to American imperialism?
@@Armyan8300 rather selective words. But I'd also judge Gorbachev by his actions. He did what needed to be done. He modernised Russia, released control of Warsaw Pact countries, tried to reduce nuclear weapons, and built relations with the West. Gorbachev was a good man I think. You cannot doubt the Rouble wouldn't be falling if Gorbachev was in charge instead of Putin.
@@skycloud4802 So empty shops and runaway capitalism is modernization?
@@theprodigyfmwm7509 sounds like your actually describing modern Russian under Putin.
@@skycloud4802 I'm no apologist for Putin. Those sanctions are his fault and they'll hurt Russians.
That said, everyday Russians suffered to make ends meet during the 90s. Pensions were lost, crime went to unbelievable levels, the oligarchs stole the country and Yeltsin oversaw it all. The end of the Soviet Union was catastrophic for everyday Russians, their standard of living cratered. It got so bad that the so called evil communists nearly won the elections during the mid 90s. In fact I'd wager the Communists would have won if it wasn't for the oligarchs and Western (mainly American intervention).
Putin stabilized a shitshow, and the fact that you can't see that makes me wonder whether you know about post Soviet Russia.
The freedom to starve or to be killed because you own a vcr is the Russian people's first experience with democracy. Some think that was worth it for the sake of democracy others don't.
A CHAD and a profound GENTLEMAN-
No he was not right he was wrong. Warsaw pact had NATO at a strategic disadvantage for over 40yrs but that was fine. But when the tables are reversed it is so wrong and provocative. I call BS. No country has the right to dictate the foreign policy of another country through direct or indirect means. WHOEVER does it is wrong. Just as there were no real excuses for Iraq there is none here. And also NATO is a defensive pact. And if those countries had nothing to fear from Mother Russia lol then they would not want to join NATO.
But why the USA dictate the political life of dozens of countries then? Why does the CIA interfere wherever they want?
@@iliyaniliev6798 The question is why do both Russia and the US do these things? You cannot believe that Russia is innocent in deeds that are identical. Again both of our governments have done shady evil stuff. And again two wrongs do not make a right. Go back and read all the comments
NATO is not defensive because it has attacked 5 countries since 1991. Aggression =\ defense.
Secondly, it places "defensive missiles" in the country it occupies which threatens Russia. Thirdly, a lot of economic pressure and coercive diplomacy is bought to bear on countries to join
@@alexg7836 All of those worries dont justify invading Ukraine, it just proves the insecurity and paranoia of putin. If Putin didnt invade Ukraine, Ukraine had no reason to want to join NATO. The idea that the NATO is the bully has been debunked many times already
@@alexg7836 I am not going over it again to a for sure Russian symp. One wrong does not make another wrong right. Russia is just as guilty as any western power of being hypocritical and full of shit. Anyone that condones Russias war is a subhuman who uses BS info to justify the killing of innocent children and elderly. YOu are a coward and a worm sir
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