Why did Jangbi hang on so long? He lost the main battle rather decisively at 17:00. After that it was clear that he could not recover and was just barely hanging on.
He has a good point. Note towards the end of the game, janbi makes NO dragoons, and 90% of his army are zealots. There's reason is that whenever protoss feel their behind, they mass zealots.or go for DTs.
Jangbi barely won against an injured Flash (carpal tunnel before surgery) and barely won against Fantasy. Jangbi is probably the luckiest / most undeserved OSL champion ever. I don't see him winning another OSL.
jangbi did superbly on expanding, but he failed at making storm. he's so good w/ storms, he should have invested just a bit on those and then would have been able to hold off the 1st push. i guess he got overconfident and thought he could over-macro a terran... correction, thought he could over-macro Flash....
Except if you knew BW at all you would know the problem was the spider mine splash damage, not the zealot. A zergling with a d-matrix will also survive that many mines.
porque el ranking kespa es acumulativo, toma en consideracion las cosas que hiciste en el pasado, lo que hace que jangbi se mantenga de segundo fue su victoria en la OSL, que todavia le da puntos y lo hace estar ahi, pero cada mes pierde eso por lo tanto dentro de poco bajara mas en el ranking
yes but vulture comes from factory , and mines cost research, i know that vulture is one of the best unit of the game, but claiming its imba is damm ridiculous.
do you guys realize that if flash waited more time to push, jangbi would have crushed him, with all that income and all that mass gateway, this game clearly shows the balance in which sc has become, jangbi simply made too much mistakes and flash attacked in the exact TIME (got jangbi off guard).End of story.
Look how long a 3 base terran 200/200 lasts its insane. Idk about you but with toss your bank account seems so low its wierd. Terran always has a huge bank. If there is anything that i find wierd is 2 supply tank is the same as a vulture. Jangbi did mess up though.
Jangbi just wasn't clever enough against Flash (e.g.: proxy location). It had nothing to do with micro - Flash's 2base defense early-midgame when he expects something is almost an art in terms of efficiency.
Thats why there are the most imba unit in the game. Aka Zealot. One zealot can clear a whole minefield. Mine drag. etc etc. Zealot fucking imba unit. If you want to nerf vulture. Nerf zealot by at least 50 Hp.
Come on... Jangbis exps were barely alive. Zealots were only unit that he could afford at this time. Also Zealots are faster and smaller than Dragoons and he was attacking from lower ground through normal size ramps. And reason of going Zeal/DT is simple -> not enough gas to keep the Goon production. Sorry for my bad English but I'm tired today.
..si el terran se hubiera demorado un poko mas en salir. el protos hubiera ganado.!! lo agarro en el momento preciso en oddne sus unidades recien iban a salir..!! )= hanby se confio..! le falta protegerse un poko mas.!! y no esperar a que el terran se arme..)= por que ahi flash las tiene de ganar.! y ve lo que paso.!! (=
In this game Flash played good as usual, but come on its not so much flash godlike play, but Jangbi's poor play in that and previous game especially. Im talking about that Jangbi has mostly dragoons in his army vs tank heavy army, one single bad stasis and no templar + going with dragoons vs tanks = suicidal gg, thats it. And as we all know Jangbi is god of the storms without them he has no power to overwelm Flash, i was hoping in his shuttle await mighty storms bu alas it was only zealots:D
people only see flash army to say terran is imba, the thing is, jangbi got too greedy, and too crazy with gateways, without money to support them, plus he engaged the first attack pretty bad, what flash did do well, was the exact timing window to attack, and his characteristic macro. people always make flash videos into a comment war because are too stupid to realize the other player simply made too many mistakes and lost, nothing really to do with race superiority.
lol flash´s games always make guys scream imbalance, well let me tell you jangbi made too many mistakes, he was caught in a bad moment during flash attack, and that vulture harrass did too much damage, jangbi simply played bad plus flash playing as usual, dunno where all the imba come from.
OSL champion my ass ? Winning an OSL winning flash 2-0 deserves the OSL title champion no ? If you watch Flash losing horang2 vs his 13 gateways you think FlaSh is overrated ? Anyone is slumping sometimes...
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23:54 이거 보면 다 본 경기
hows vulture imbalance? and that protoss can put down 3 expansion and 10 gate ways balanced?
man OSL was 1 year ago :D
Como es posible que teniendo mas derrotas que victorias se este segundo en el ranking Kespa?
Yeah I agree, only reason toss are doing so well is maps not the game (and some creativity).
true, I was thinking the same thing, Toss nowadays expands and hides expensions like zerg in the late game.
eso tambien me preguntoi al igual q hydra q para pérdiendo siempre y esta en puesto 4 nose como funciona el ranking
Why did Jangbi hang on so long? He lost the main battle rather decisively at 17:00. After that it was clear that he could not recover and was just barely hanging on.
Sorry what did you say ?
What is the name of your country where one year includes 5 months ? ;)
He has a good point. Note towards the end of the game, janbi makes NO dragoons, and 90% of his army are zealots. There's reason is that whenever protoss feel their behind, they mass zealots.or go for DTs.
테란이 병력 손해없이 트리플 그냥 무난하게먹고 병력 200가까이에 업글 2 1 업 한방 타이밍 진짜 허느님도 못막는구나.. 이영호 진짜 지린다 하;;
진에어 8강 2경기에서는 막아냄 지림;; 꼭보셈
저 한방 타이밍, 전투력 진짜 이영호 끝판왕
Jangbi barely won against an injured Flash (carpal tunnel before surgery) and barely won against Fantasy. Jangbi is probably the luckiest / most undeserved OSL champion ever. I don't see him winning another OSL.
with so many gateways running and expo's up he was definately still in the game atleast a little
I wonder if Flash ever takes a 4th base.
jangbi did superbly on expanding, but he failed at making storm. he's so good w/ storms, he should have invested just a bit on those and then would have been able to hold off the 1st push. i guess he got overconfident and thought he could over-macro a terran... correction, thought he could over-macro Flash....
Set 1: Micro Jangbi vs Flash. Flash won.
Set 2: Macro Jangbi vs Flash. Flash won again.
What more Jangbi could do ? :D
Except if you knew BW at all you would know the problem was the spider mine splash damage, not the zealot. A zergling with a d-matrix will also survive that many mines.
17:25 Templars are needed
No recall, no harass. Letting Flash sit on 3 bases until he max his army is suicide.
24:09
modern TvP is looking more and more like TvZ.
it's 7 months mate :D
time is faster without msl and osl and you KNOW IT
@trouter92 i can't agree with your statement; however, i can agree with "zealots don't require Macro"
REMATCH! DUN DUN DUN...
Flash The Terminator is back.
no it hasnt been pathec for 10 years, probably something like 3 or four years
porque el ranking kespa es acumulativo, toma en consideracion las cosas que hiciste en el pasado, lo que hace que jangbi se mantenga de segundo fue su victoria en la OSL, que todavia le da puntos y lo hace estar ahi, pero cada mes pierde eso por lo tanto dentro de poco bajara mas en el ranking
OWNEAD
yes but vulture comes from factory , and mines cost research, i know that vulture is one of the best unit of the game, but claiming its imba is damm ridiculous.
do you guys realize that if flash waited more time to push, jangbi would have crushed him, with all that income and all that mass gateway, this game clearly shows the balance in which sc has become, jangbi simply made too much mistakes and flash attacked in the exact TIME (got jangbi off guard).End of story.
lol no way to stop them -.- it's flash, regular terrans have enough trouble dealing with toss
tfw JangBi raeping flash on their last match
Look how long a 3 base terran 200/200 lasts its insane. Idk about you but with toss your bank account seems so low its wierd. Terran always has a huge bank. If there is anything that i find wierd is 2 supply tank is the same as a vulture. Jangbi did mess up though.
Jangbi just wasn't clever enough against Flash (e.g.: proxy location). It had nothing to do with micro - Flash's 2base defense early-midgame when he expects something is almost an art in terms of efficiency.
Flash isn't terran.. He's fuqin' TERROR
Thats why there are the most imba unit in the game. Aka Zealot. One zealot can clear a whole minefield. Mine drag. etc etc. Zealot fucking imba unit. If you want to nerf vulture. Nerf zealot by at least 50 Hp.
What did you say guys ? xd
2:04
Come on... Jangbis exps were barely alive. Zealots were only unit that he could afford at this time. Also Zealots are faster and smaller than Dragoons and he was attacking from lower ground through normal size ramps. And reason of going Zeal/DT is simple -> not enough gas to keep the Goon production. Sorry for my bad English but I'm tired today.
it aint terran thars imba, its flash thats op
허영무가 판 잘짜고 너무큰실수를 했네..멀티를 너무하다보니 일꾼수때문에 인구수 다잡아먹고..하템 없이 굳이 때려박은게 패인이구나..게이트 겁나많이짓고 돌리지도 못했어..
it was 2 1
허영무 형은 캐리어 가는 게 나을 거 같아요
23:51
mfw you didn't even understand my post to Puru
Flash looks sort of like an asian version of Robert Pattinson xD
..si el terran se hubiera demorado un poko mas en salir. el protos hubiera ganado.!! lo agarro en el momento preciso en oddne sus unidades recien iban a salir..!! )= hanby se confio..! le falta protegerse un poko mas.!! y no esperar a que el terran se arme..)= por que ahi flash las tiene de ganar.! y ve lo que paso.!! (=
3:32 "I believe in God Young Ho KT Fighting"
Flash es una verga, pa empinarse al rank 2 y siendo protoss asi de cabron esta
In this game Flash played good as usual, but come on its not so much flash godlike play, but Jangbi's poor play in that and previous game especially.
Im talking about that Jangbi has mostly dragoons in his army vs tank heavy army, one single bad stasis and no templar + going with dragoons vs tanks = suicidal gg, thats it.
And as we all know Jangbi is god of the storms without them he has no power to overwelm Flash, i was hoping in his shuttle await mighty storms bu alas it was only zealots:D
23:50 beautiful girl
Implying Flash = last 10+ years
`5:24 how fucking imba is zealot. 5 mines it STILL DOESNT DIE.
people only see flash army to say terran is imba, the thing is, jangbi got too greedy, and too crazy with gateways, without money to support them, plus he engaged the first attack pretty bad, what flash did do well, was the exact timing window to attack, and his characteristic macro. people always make flash videos into a comment war because are too stupid to realize the other player simply made too many mistakes and lost, nothing really to do with race superiority.
seriously, flash 200 is imba
Jangbi too greedy with expansion
tfw two last osl
nope. stork is the most undeserved OSL champion ever
lol flash´s games always make guys scream imbalance, well let me tell you jangbi made too many mistakes, he was caught in a bad moment during flash attack, and that vulture harrass did too much damage, jangbi simply played bad plus flash playing as usual, dunno where all the imba come from.
You are this mad ?
:)
no
OSL champion my ass ? Winning an OSL winning flash 2-0 deserves the OSL title champion no ? If you watch Flash losing horang2 vs his 13 gateways you think FlaSh is overrated ? Anyone is slumping sometimes...
온게임넷인데 해설이 mbc넼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
해설 진짜…으~어~
The game is clearly too hard for you, just quit already.
Bull shit look at 5:24.