I watched this video this morning, went to the dollar store and not owning a cat bought a little can of vienna sausages and a small can of pineapple juice. made a taller version of your stove. did not cut down the "tall" can just had to make two air holes and two seep holes. stuffed with cotton and it managed to boil 24 oz of water in about 8 minutes with about 1 oz of alcohol. Just saying you don't need a cat. lol. thanks
Thank you for saving me hours of my life! Always had a fascination with these little stoves and always wanted to build one. Was going to spend 3 or 4 days building one of those very popular "penny stoves", but then came across this video! I used a tuna can and a half size sweetcorn can and some cotton fabric for a wick. 60ml of mentholated spirits (all I had...) Primed in about 10 seconds, burned for almost 20 minutes, boiled 1 liter (4 cups) in less than 15 minutes. Properly stoked with myself! Thank you very much! *UPDATE* ---- Made another one with a normal 415g tin. Measured 35mm from the closed end and cut that off. This gave it about 32mm from the top of the tuna tin. Something about that 1 and ¼ inch.... This thing boiled 1litre of water in less than 12 minutes! Having so much fun right now! Thank you once again!
So how tall was your upgrade can? My dad used always cottonwool inside to avoid spills coz he had a different way to make it. He left the bottom on the can and made a square cut just enough to slip more cotton wool when the first one was gone. It was great because you could have a small fame just to boil water for coffee which is really what one wants whie camping. Eerything else l use a wood burning stove.
Hey Earnie, you mentioned @ 8:38 that "the only negative is that you can't snuff it out easliy". Sure you can . . . just put a pot or a can upside down over top of this stove and deprive it of Oxygen. Boom . . . its out. Now it doesn't even have one flaw! :-)
My kids and I made five of these in an afternoon about two years ago using this video. I have used mine since then with great results. I had to search the subject again to find the video, but just wanted to say thanks!👍🏻
I built this stove today, and I just want to say thank you for your informational videos. As much of a gear junkie we can be, every detail counts. Your videos have moved me to make one and after testing it, I am so excited to use it in the field.
I just made this stove literally one hour ago and it’s really ingenious! Very fuel efficient & it boiled 2 cups of water for my tea with 1/2 an ounce of Yellow HEET for 5-1/2 minutes and boiled water! You can tell if this stove is running out of fuel when the carbon felt wick is glowing red then the flames is sputtering then it’s out. A Very DIY efficient stove Indeed!
I make and use this stove, I love it! No moving parts to break or lose. I get many questions about making them and have given them as presents. I spray mine inside and out with high temperature black paint to slow down rusting.
Great Video thanks, I built this and it worked great, I then wanted a Stove that lasted longer, so I found Hiram Cook & and 1 other had built Simmer Rings, I tried both and Hirams lasted for just over 35 minutes on 1 ounce of fuel and the other one lasted just over 27 Minutes with his simmer ring, one boiled around 18 mins and the other about 20 or so, so a Simmer Ring is a great addition to add 20 mins or more burn time to 1 ounce of fuel on these, also with out the rings, I got a boil at 6 mins. 30 secs,
I made one of these this afternoon and it was so easy! I couldn't find carbon felt but fibreglass rope works fine. Cost $7 Australian all up. Now to make a windscreen...
Great instructional video. I have made a few stoves like shown in this video. I painted the steel inner can with high heat grill paint to prevent rust. Another option I tried is to use an aluminum stadium beer can for the inner can. This reduces the weight of the stove. Another thing I tried was using fiberglass cloth instead of the carbon felt. This is what Zelph (the fancee feest stove creater) uses in the ones he sells. On his web site he says this 'Wicking material pulls the fuel upwards for a complete burn of fuel as compared to products like carbon felt and pink fiberglass insulation that just absorb the fuel and some of the fuel remains after flame out' Anyway just some additional changes you may wish try out. Thank you for all the work you put into your videos.
Great instructional video BTW. Hiram Cook and Colorado Camper provided the initial how-to's but I found your video much more to the point and very detailed. Excellent job! A trick that I use in cold temperatures is to pour the fuel along the edge into the carbon felt itself. It makes the "flame on" a lot easier since the felt is already primed. I use a little squeeze bottle to aim the fuel at the carbon felt accurately when doing the fill up -- and also slightly tilt the stove while doing that.
I recommend throwing the cans into a campfire or something to burn out all the plastic inside first. The lining is easy to scrap out then. I also recommend keeping the cut side of the tomato paste can down, with the soft rim above. This stove works very well! I got a pint of water boiling in 8 minutes, and it lasted about 20 minutes total.
I just made one with a Vienna sausage can and without cutting the tomato sauce can. Going to test it now. I wanted a little larger one. We shall see... Thanks Ernie!!
Just love this stove. Super simple to build and it packs a ton of power. I made a triangular wire pot stand that matches the height of the stove. Makes a huge difference in windy conditions.
Thank you, great video and good tutorial. I used your specs and it came out great. The tomato paste can is the 6oz. version for anybody who's wondering. The carbon felt is 1/4" thick and when it wraps around the tomato paste can it fits inside the fancy feast can perfectly. getting it in took a try or two. I used a small flat head screwdriver to tuck the felt in on the top. Thanks again.. liked and subbed.
+Don P Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Yeah, It takes a little patience to get it in just right but with a little effort you make a great little DIY stove. And thanks for clarifying the tomato paste can size!
Nice, we don't have a cat so I made one out of a 2" tall x 2 1/2" wide "sliced olive" can instead. Because this can is taller I didn't bother to cut the 5 oz tomato paste can that goes inside. Worked perfect & boiled water in a hurry plus I now have 2 of the necessary ingredients for homemade pizza bread !
Thanks, Ernie, for sharing your information with us. Very straightforward and simple to follow. I had never considered, however, the one negative flaw, namely the inability to snuff it out. But, as you say, that is no problem if you carefully measure how much fuel is going to be needed for the burn.
Just finished and tested the FF stove. Boiled about a cup of water, in my GSI cup, in about six minutes. Only took about twenty minutes to make the stove using my dremel tool. Great little stove. The only difference I did from your instructions ,since I didn't have carbon felt, was to use a couple of oil lamp wicks. Seem to work fine, we will see if they hold up. Thanks
So glad you posted this. As you know this is my go to stove and I'll never need another. It is all you say and more. Since alcohol burns below freezing this stove works better year round than a Pocket Rocket in my opinion. I can confirm your times except I get a slightly faster boil with a shorter pot that gets no blow up the side. I agree there are no build videos on TH-cam. I had to figure it out pausing boil tests. Not hard to make at all. I do need to get another tomato paste can to make mine 1 inch also. It's 8 ounces by the way. Nicely done sir.
One thing to point out,this stove is well suited for those of us that deal with a lot of cold weather.stoves like the penny stove suffer in cold weather as the alcohol wont vaporize easily.this stove wont need to be primed so its a bit better at handling those cold days.
Awesome to see someone here from Louisiana also. Only thing I can wish about being here is more places to camp an hike unless I’m looking in all the wrong areas
I believe you to be %100 correct. the carbon cat is the best stove around. Having said that I would like to offer that HEET is 98% methanol which is poisonous and the fumes are toxic to humans whereas Denatured alcohol is 50% less meth and less toxic. Great video and stay safe. Thanks for posting.
I watched a video of Someone that made a simmer ring for a stove like that ( sorry I don't know Who it was ) . That stove w/simmer ring could burn for a bit over 30 min. ! The stove just barely burns ( great for baking , or warming ) . I think They made it out of a 7 oz. Coke can cut to just go to the top of the flame ( it's been so long ago I really don't remember exactly how high it was ) . EDIT : I found that video Wandering Graybeard If You Google Him I think You'll find it . Looks like the simmer ring is made from a can with rings ( but He doesn't tell what it is ) .
Built one. I used a tuna can. I didn't trim the can, and only put feeder holes in the bottom. I went to Home Depot, but forgot where to look, so no carbon felt. Google informed me that material is used as fireproof screens for welding. The folks pointed me to paint dept. Anyway, if there are no welders in your social circle, y'all may have better luck at Harbor Freight. BTW I just used it to do lunch. It works.
I shouldn't think it would if you don't allow it to burn out of fuel. Snuff it when you are done cooking with a can of the exact perimeter size of the outer can or a can just large enough to not allow any air in the chamber created and fitting very close (snug fit) to the outside. The object is to starve it of air. Wait a minute or two and check it... flame should be out. Pour your remaining fuel back into your fuel bottle... close tightly. That's how I do it. Whoops.... should have read farther down!
Hey just loved your video and trying to get all the parts to make one but can’t find the carbon fibre is there another name for this fabric. I live in Canada and no one seems to know what carbon fibre is thanks frustrated fan
Here is a link to Amazon Canada with what I use, but there are tons other similar products www.amazon.ca/Mag-Torch-MT-HC912-Protective-Cloth/dp/B00KXX6RME/ref=sr_1_12?crid=3KQ3KLRKQ8U20&dchild=1&keywords=carbon+felt&qid=1600300796&sprefix=carbon+felt%2Caps%2C506&sr=8-12
Ya think another cat can could be used upside down to extinguish the flame/stove? I'm going to make one. I notice they work in frigid temperatures. Thanks for sharing 👍👀
I have made many DIY alcohol stoves and this the best one. As far as efficiency with the one inch gap, it depends on what your goals are at efficiency. If you want the fasted boil and time to boil is how you are measuring efficiency then 1 in is fine. Sometimes the amount of fuel you have left in the woods is more important than speed. If you want to be more efficient at fuel consumption measured at the end of a boil cycle then consider a slightly lower gap. In my experience (using the scientific method) it can make a slightly longer time to boil but have a higher fuel conservation. Insulating your contain will help as well.
Just want to say thank you for making this video. I will be making the same stove this week. I'm not going to lie though, I was a little nervous seeing that highly flammable polyester fleece blanket on top of your table, and underneath your stove. But you looked like you were being very cautious and had a little tray as a spill guard.
If you don’t have a pot on top of the tomato paste can, will the fuel still burn through the carbon felt, or does it just burn the fuel through the tomato paste can? Great video, great content.
Yes it is. I made the super mini stove by my self too. I made it using my night cream tin can (Diameter is 30mm and 17mm the high). I put the steel wool inside. It's Penny stove design with 1 hole in the middle (15mm the diameter) and 10 holes around it. But i have to use pot stand to put my stainless mug above. I just need 7 minutes to boil 1 cup (with 8ml of methanol). The burn out is 9 minutes something (almost 10 minutes)
Looks like an easy build, I think I will make one. I see 2 negatives though, not one. First, I have to buy and be in the same room with cat food ( : and second, it looks like it would be very unstable if placed on any surface other than a table top. This stove on the ground with a pot of chili on top does not look like a wise combo.
No…too thick & won’t wick up the felt Use an empty aluminum wide beer cap for that…I do it & it’ll work but hand sanitizer has additives & only about 60%~70% with gummy crud left behind
@@kaka_kaka28 There’s a guy here YT that shows how to convert hand sanitizer into a more efficient liquid state using table salt…look it up! I haven’t tried it yet but soon I’m sure I will, Dollar Tree has or had where I’m at their 10oz or 12oz bottle of fuel injection cleaner (ethanol) that works great $1.25 if you’re on a budget About 2-3yrs ago I had acquired bottles of a very watery hand sanitizer that was great (free left over from COVID-19) maybe 80%? or more burned a nice blue flame Also YT on using isopropyl alcohol but sooty unless your pot is 1/2” from the flame
Thanks for this. I live on a small island, so I'm having difficulty finding carbon felt. Even online at home depot I can't find it - is it called by another name? What is the thickness of the felt? I have some 95% real wool felt that I use for making insoles for boots, so I will try that if it's the right thickness!
Hello, Ernie - this has been an informative video! I just came over from the one you posted comparing several models. My only question that didn't seem to be addressed by another commenter or yourself is this: HOW MUCH LONGER WOULD ICY COLD WATER TAKE TO BOIL vs. tepid tap water?
+Kent Benton I can say I have never had any issues with the BOT. It has a rubber seal, and I really baby it and make sure it never gets too hot etc. I have to say I love the BOT, works as advertised.
You can make a diy simmer ring using another can slightly above the wick. Then cut the can so it looks like a windscreen you don't have to remove your pot and pan from the pot stand. Just open the can simmer ring, then close it when you have lined up with the wick. :)
+brooks newsome Thanks so much for watching! Stay tuned this weekend as I am announcing a give away when I hit 500 subs and you can win one of these stoves!
Hi Ernie:-) What is the point of you making then so small?? Why not make them bigger so you can make more than coffee? Nice videos you are making👍 Best regards from Denmark 🇩🇰
You can make them bigger using a progessive soup can with a Green Giant Extra Long Asparagus Spears, 15 Oz. can. Now you have a bigger, taller fancy feast. :) www.walmart.com/ip/Green-Giant-Extra-Long-Asparagus-Spears-15-Oz/10319329?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=3408&&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9030904&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=10319329&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqrb7BRDlARIsACwGad7f6kwUlInSg-0XMq2Hl9BavXMCqAAdXSXLoSIyjpWk4_1DHeNtWucaAg5bEALw_wcB
I followed your instructions to the letter but I am only getting about a 5-minute burn time. I am using the yellow bottle of heat. Any ideas as to what is going on?
Great Video! I live in Australia and we have different cans. If you get a chance, could you give me the diameters of the 2 cans so I can try to make one also?
+Hamish Benson (HamishWillB) The diameter of the tomato paste can is a hair over 2 inches and the cat food can is a hair over 2 1/2 inches (measurement at the outside top lips = 2 1/8" inner can and 2 5/8" outer can. -- inside diameters of those two cans are 2" and 2 1/2"). I'm using Canadian products which are metric like Oz. So the tomato paste can is 156ml or 5.5 oz liq www.empiremarkets.ca/index.php/cannedfood/condiments-spices/hunts-tomato-paste-156ml.html and the cat food can is 85gr www.mrcase.com/pet-supplies/cat-food/fancfest-cat-food-grilled-tuna-24x85g.html. When buying the tomato paste can, get the kind with a paper label that can be taken off. Some come with a painted-on label and it's unhealthy when cooking due to the fumes of paint burning off. Any tab lid cat food can of that size should do the trick as they're all made of aluminum with the same dimensions. Colorado Camper has a great video on making a matching simmer ring for the Fancy Feast stove which is what I'm working on right now (with 7 holes instead of his 8). Hiram Cook has another version which I built yesterday. I'm going to try them out later today. Good luck! I lived in Melbourne for 5 years and miss the Rainbow Lorikeets and palm trees -- not to mention the warm temps.
I walked around the store and just eyeballed cans, looking for cans that will nest inside each other. The only dimension I care about is that the can heights be around a 1 inch difference. I have gone as high as a 1 1/2" difference. Carbon fiber works great, so does ceramic fiber but they can be expensive and/or hard to find...more economic to make with if you make several. Surprisingly enough, cotton cloth works also (just put out the dying flame before it burns the cloth). I've also used steel wool, the fine fiber kind not the coarse kind. Heck, I've even used no fiber (harder to start) but I used some cordage around the inner base to keep a consistent gap. I've heard of other people successfully using the pink fiberglass successfully. My only change from the original poster's procedure is to poke the holes in the inner can, just above the top of the outer can...I feel that helps to get the felt lit quicker. (With the hole below the inner can rim, you can soak the felt a little when filling if your alcohol hits above the hole) You can also make a simmer ring out of a can bottom that nests/rests stably on the outer can rim. I've had good luck with a simmer ring that barely touches the pot bottom and has 3 large notches in the top of the simmer ring. Have fun, when I was checking the variations of this stove out I had cans all over the place and my place constantly smelled of burning can liner...this stove was way more reliable, and lit easier (I cheated and filled by soaking the felt), without fear of spilling than any other stove I tested. I was using a 12 inch cast iron frying pan, so I chose cans as wide as I could find.
Carbon felt is not easy to find in my country Argetina🇦🇷. I made that stove using steel wool instead (that we can find in cleaning supplies) and it worked just fine.
@@willyvanhemelryck3537 Surely I will... Only that steel wool it's more popular so it's cheaper, easyer to find, and it's steel... so I bet it shall last longer you know...
@@shofarox4037 I made it with toilet paper, and put the steel wool to the tomato can (in the middle). The burn time is longer a little bit. But, my favorite DIY stove is my super mini stove. I made it from my night cream tin (30mm diameter and 17mm high). It needs around 7 minutes for boiling 1 cup (with 8ml of methanol) and the flame burns out in 9:08. I take it mostly when I go outdoor. The pot stand, the windshield, the 8ml bottle of mehanol, i put it all together in my candy can. My another favorite DIY stove is my Tuna can 120 grams. I always bring it when 1 go camping. The flame burns out is around 50 minutes (I put 40ml of methanol). If I have time, I will try to make the simmer ring and I am sure the flame burns out more than 1 hour. I use the steel wool for both stove.
Have you tried making this with more than two notches for the fuel on the inside? and or with more holes up top for vents? There must not be a need for more, it's just the engineer in me wanting to see... :) THANKS
PROBLEM: I believe it is the black carbon felt that is causing a black smokey layer on my cooking container/pot. Is there a source/type of carbon felt that will NOT create this smokey layer?
This could be due to the type of alcohol you are using. Use de-natured alcohol. Easiest to find is the STP gas treatment in the yellow bottle. Not the red bottle.
do you know the diameter of the cans? the one i have made looks like there is a bit more of a gap between cans.. also what thickness carbon felt is it?
You can use the stove hundred and hundreds of times. I have friends who have used the same stove tons for well over 5 years and it is still going strong.
I am wondering why one can't just pour a little alcohol in a fancy feast can and put a pot on a pot stand about 1" above the top of the cat can? thank you for your thoughts on this. mary
I watched this video this morning, went to the dollar store and not owning a cat bought a little can of vienna sausages and a small can of pineapple juice. made a taller version of your stove. did not cut down the "tall" can just had to make two air holes and two seep holes. stuffed with cotton and it managed to boil 24 oz of water in about 8 minutes with about 1 oz of alcohol. Just saying you don't need a cat. lol. thanks
I have a larger version of fancy feast stove with 160 chicken paste can instead. Its even more capacity then vienna sausage can
@@Radoslaw731"160 chicken paste"? 🤔
I made one with a tuna fish can and one of those skinny Bud Light Lime cans cut down so that 1" extended above the tuna can lip.
Same here my favorite stove design
a Vienna sausage can fits a tomato paste without cutting. with 1 inch sweet spot.
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Thank you for saving me hours of my life!
Always had a fascination with these little stoves and always wanted to build one. Was going to spend 3 or 4 days building one of those very popular "penny stoves", but then came across this video! I used a tuna can and a half size sweetcorn can and some cotton fabric for a wick. 60ml of mentholated spirits (all I had...) Primed in about 10 seconds, burned for almost 20 minutes, boiled 1 liter (4 cups) in less than 15 minutes.
Properly stoked with myself!
Thank you very much!
*UPDATE* ----
Made another one with a normal 415g tin. Measured 35mm from the closed end and cut that off.
This gave it about 32mm from the top of the tuna tin.
Something about that 1 and ¼ inch....
This thing boiled 1litre of water in less than 12 minutes!
Having so much fun right now!
Thank you once again!
So how tall was your upgrade can? My dad used always cottonwool inside to avoid spills coz he had a different way to make it. He left the bottom on the can and made a square cut just enough to slip more cotton wool when the first one was gone. It was great because you could have a small fame just to boil water for coffee which is really what one wants whie camping. Eerything else l use a wood burning stove.
Hey Earnie, you mentioned @ 8:38 that "the only negative is that you can't snuff it out easliy". Sure you can . . . just put a pot or a can upside down over top of this stove and deprive it of Oxygen. Boom . . . its out. Now it doesn't even have one flaw! :-)
My kids and I made five of these in an afternoon about two years ago using this video. I have used mine since then with great results. I had to search the subject again to find the video, but just wanted to say thanks!👍🏻
Awesome, thanks for checking in!
I built this stove today, and I just want to say thank you for your informational videos. As much of a gear junkie we can be, every detail counts. Your videos have moved me to make one and after testing it, I am so excited to use it in the field.
I just made this stove literally one hour ago and it’s really ingenious! Very fuel efficient & it boiled 2 cups of water for my tea with 1/2 an ounce of Yellow HEET for 5-1/2 minutes and boiled water! You can tell if this stove is running out of fuel when the carbon felt wick is glowing red then the flames is sputtering then it’s out. A Very DIY efficient stove Indeed!
I make and use this stove, I love it! No moving parts to break or lose.
I get many questions about making them and have given them as presents.
I spray mine inside and out with high temperature black paint to slow down rusting.
Since I'm a new subscriber, I've been going back and watching some of your older videos. I wondered if you still like your Fancy Feast Stove.
Great Video thanks, I built this and it worked great, I then wanted a Stove that lasted longer, so I found Hiram Cook & and 1 other had built Simmer Rings, I tried both and Hirams lasted for just over 35 minutes on 1 ounce of fuel and the other one lasted just over 27 Minutes with his simmer ring, one boiled around 18 mins and the other about 20 or so, so a Simmer Ring is a great addition to add 20 mins or more burn time to 1 ounce of fuel on these, also with out the rings, I got a boil at 6 mins. 30 secs,
I made one of these this afternoon and it was so easy! I couldn't find carbon felt but fibreglass rope works fine. Cost $7 Australian all up. Now to make a windscreen...
Great instructional video. I have made a few stoves like shown in this video. I painted the steel inner can with high heat grill paint to prevent rust. Another option I tried is to use an aluminum stadium beer can for the inner can. This reduces the weight of the stove. Another thing I tried was using fiberglass cloth instead of the carbon felt. This is what Zelph (the fancee feest stove creater) uses in the ones he sells. On his web site he says this 'Wicking material pulls the fuel upwards for a complete burn of fuel as compared to products like carbon felt and pink fiberglass insulation that just absorb the fuel and some of the fuel remains after flame out' Anyway just some additional changes you may wish try out. Thank you for all the work you put into your videos.
Great instructional video BTW. Hiram Cook and Colorado Camper provided the initial how-to's but I found your video much more to the point and very detailed. Excellent job! A trick that I use in cold temperatures is to pour the fuel along the edge into the carbon felt itself. It makes the "flame on" a lot easier since the felt is already primed. I use a little squeeze bottle to aim the fuel at the carbon felt accurately when doing the fill up -- and also slightly tilt the stove while doing that.
I recommend throwing the cans into a campfire or something to burn out all the plastic inside first. The lining is easy to scrap out then. I also recommend keeping the cut side of the tomato paste can down, with the soft rim above.
This stove works very well! I got a pint of water boiling in 8 minutes, and it lasted about 20 minutes total.
I just made one with a Vienna sausage can and without cutting the tomato sauce can. Going to test it now. I wanted a little larger one. We shall see...
Thanks Ernie!!
Just love this stove. Super simple to build and it packs a ton of power. I made a triangular wire pot stand that matches the height of the stove. Makes a huge difference in windy conditions.
Thank you sir for the awesome tutorial! My
youngest son (13yo) and I made 5 of these in an afternoon.
Man that is incredibly simple! Thanks!!! Will make one for my grown kids & their families in the SHTF crisis!!
This is still the best in my opinion!
Simple and no fuss with blooming.
Thank you, great video and good tutorial. I used your specs and it came out great. The tomato paste can is the 6oz. version for anybody who's wondering. The carbon felt is 1/4" thick and when it wraps around the tomato paste can it fits inside the fancy feast can perfectly. getting it in took a try or two. I used a small flat head screwdriver to tuck the felt in on the top. Thanks again.. liked and subbed.
+Don P Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Yeah, It takes a little patience to get it in just right but with a little effort you make a great little DIY stove. And thanks for clarifying the tomato paste can size!
Nice, we don't have a cat so I made one out of a 2" tall x 2 1/2" wide "sliced olive" can instead. Because this can is taller I didn't bother to cut the 5 oz tomato paste can that goes inside. Worked perfect & boiled water in a hurry plus I now have 2 of the necessary ingredients for homemade pizza bread !
Thanks, Ernie, for sharing your information with us. Very straightforward and simple to follow. I had never considered, however, the one negative flaw, namely the inability to snuff it out. But, as you say, that is no problem if you carefully measure how much fuel is going to be needed for the burn.
Just finished and tested the FF stove. Boiled about a cup of water, in my GSI cup, in about six minutes. Only took about twenty minutes to make the stove using my dremel tool. Great little stove. The only difference I did from your instructions ,since I didn't have carbon felt, was to use a couple of oil lamp wicks. Seem to work fine, we will see if they hold up. Thanks
Lamp wicks work well for me also. To my surprise, fiberglass insulation did not .
Great video! The only thing I did different was I used a safety can opener when I opened the cat food can. It just makes for a cleaner can.
Out of all the stoves I made this one is the easiest and best one. Extremely easy to build and efficient.
You could snuff the stove with another clean cat food can placed upside down over the flame. Or a larger can/pot over the whole thing.
Thanks for your video which makes a great point :
some very simple designs can nonetheless be really efficient.
Can you use cotton balls?
So glad you posted this. As you know this is my go to stove and I'll never need another. It is all you say and more. Since alcohol burns below freezing this stove works better year round than a Pocket Rocket in my opinion. I can confirm your times except I get a slightly faster boil with a shorter pot that gets no blow up the side. I agree there are no build videos on TH-cam. I had to figure it out pausing boil tests. Not hard to make at all. I do need to get another tomato paste can to make mine 1 inch also. It's 8 ounces by the way. Nicely done sir.
One thing to point out,this stove is well suited for those of us that deal with a lot of cold weather.stoves like the penny stove suffer in cold weather as the alcohol wont vaporize easily.this stove wont need to be primed so its a bit better at handling those cold days.
Awesome to see someone here from Louisiana also. Only thing I can wish about being here is more places to camp an hike unless I’m looking in all the wrong areas
Thanks for sharing this tip. I just made two of them and they work great. I re did my cook kits and there much lighter. Thanks again !
I’ll have to try this. Thanks for tutorial.
I believe you to be %100 correct. the carbon cat is the best stove around. Having said that I would like to offer that HEET is 98% methanol which is poisonous and the fumes are toxic to humans whereas Denatured alcohol is 50% less meth and less toxic. Great video and stay safe. Thanks for posting.
thanks for the dimensions. Great video, and yes it's hot here in Louisiana. :)
Great video.. can I use a wick from a kerosene lantern to wrap around inner can ?
Thank you! Good instruction, excited to use my new stove!
I watched a video of Someone that made a simmer ring for a stove like that ( sorry I don't know Who it was ) .
That stove w/simmer ring
could burn for a bit over 30 min. ! The stove just barely burns ( great for baking , or warming ) .
I think They made it out of a 7 oz. Coke can cut to just go to the top of the flame ( it's been so long ago I really don't remember exactly how high it was ) .
EDIT :
I found that video
Wandering Graybeard
If You Google Him I think You'll find it . Looks like the simmer ring is made from a can with rings ( but
He doesn't tell what it is ) .
Built one. I used a tuna can. I didn't trim the can, and only put feeder holes in the bottom. I went to Home Depot, but forgot where to look, so no carbon felt. Google informed me that material is used as fireproof screens for welding. The folks pointed me to paint dept. Anyway, if there are no welders in your social circle, y'all may have better luck at Harbor Freight. BTW I just used it to do lunch. It works.
If you use an Armour Vienna Sausage can instead of the cat food can, you don't have to cut the tomato paste can to achieve the correct 1" gap.
Excelent vídeo and tips! Tks from Brazil!
Its cool!
Thanks for a video.
One question: what about wind protection?
Great video! absolutely love the simplicity. Does the carbon felt ever need to be replaced?
I shouldn't think it would if you don't allow it to burn out of fuel. Snuff it when you are done cooking with a can of the exact perimeter size of the outer can or a can just large enough to not allow any air in the chamber created and fitting very close (snug fit) to the outside. The object is to starve it of air. Wait a minute or two and check it... flame should be out. Pour your remaining fuel back into your fuel bottle... close tightly. That's how I do it. Whoops.... should have read farther down!
Thanks! Headed for the hardware store soon. Just gotta ask my cat friends for a can.. 😎
Awesome video. How long does the carbon felt last?
Ótimo 👍👍🇧🇷 Parabéns
Thats different than I'd make, but I'm gonna try it
Good vid, thanks
great info. just what I was looking 4. happy trailz
super good idea,thanks a bunch
Tanks for lern me make miget oven
Hey just loved your video and trying to get all the parts to make one but can’t find the carbon fibre is there another name for this fabric. I live in Canada and no one seems to know what carbon fibre is thanks frustrated fan
Here is a link to Amazon Canada with what I use, but there are tons other similar products
www.amazon.ca/Mag-Torch-MT-HC912-Protective-Cloth/dp/B00KXX6RME/ref=sr_1_12?crid=3KQ3KLRKQ8U20&dchild=1&keywords=carbon+felt&qid=1600300796&sprefix=carbon+felt%2Caps%2C506&sr=8-12
PaleoHikerMD thanks
Question, if you wanted a longer burn time, wouldn't leaving the pan on top do that? I'm looking for the heat as well.
Nice video Paleo. Subscribed
I like mine at 1 1/2 inches, seems to boil quicker__ for me👍
Terrycloth towels work good instead of carbon felt
Awesome thanks
Ya think another cat can could be used upside down to extinguish the flame/stove? I'm going to make one. I notice they work in frigid temperatures. Thanks for sharing 👍👀
I have made many DIY alcohol stoves and this the best one. As far as efficiency with the one inch gap, it depends on what your goals are at efficiency. If you want the fasted boil and time to boil is how you are measuring efficiency then 1 in is fine. Sometimes the amount of fuel you have left in the woods is more important than speed. If you want to be more efficient at fuel consumption measured at the end of a boil cycle then consider a slightly lower gap. In my experience (using the scientific method) it can make a slightly longer time to boil but have a higher fuel conservation. Insulating your contain will help as well.
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+Dan R Great feedback, thanks for watching!
Just want to say thank you for making this video. I will be making the same stove this week. I'm not going to lie though, I was a little nervous seeing that highly flammable polyester fleece blanket on top of your table, and underneath your stove. But you looked like you were being very cautious and had a little tray as a spill guard.
what do you do to drain excess fuel when done cooking?
If you don’t have a pot on top of the tomato paste can, will the fuel still burn through the carbon felt, or does it just burn the fuel through the tomato paste can?
Great video, great content.
Made it , love it, thanks..
Cotton wick would work well too.
I am wondering if a stove half this size could be made after this design...?
Yes it is.
I made the super mini stove by my self too. I made it using my night cream tin can (Diameter is 30mm and 17mm the high). I put the steel wool inside. It's Penny stove design with 1 hole in the middle (15mm the diameter) and 10 holes around it. But i have to use pot stand to put my stainless mug above.
I just need 7 minutes to boil 1 cup (with 8ml of methanol). The burn out is 9 minutes something (almost 10 minutes)
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Great idea I’ll try that!
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Looks like an easy build, I think I will make one. I see 2 negatives though, not one. First, I have to buy and be in the same room with cat food ( : and second, it looks like it would be very unstable if placed on any surface other than a table top. This stove on the ground with a pot of chili on top does not look like a wise combo.
Make a stand or use with Esbit type stand. I have one from Coughlan.
A soup can like chicken noodle soap cans work just as well as the tomato paste can. :)
Do you have to repla the cotton wick everytime you use it? Can use liquid paraffine?
Is there any advantage to this version of the fancy feast stove compared to the fancy feast stove with the hole punches?
Can we use sanitiser gel as fuel in this stove ?.
No…too thick & won’t wick up the felt
Use an empty aluminum wide beer cap for that…I do it & it’ll work but hand sanitizer has additives & only about 60%~70% with gummy crud left behind
@@IAMGWH1, Thank you for your insights.
@@kaka_kaka28
There’s a guy here YT that shows how to convert hand sanitizer into a more efficient liquid state using table salt…look it up!
I haven’t tried it yet but soon I’m sure I will, Dollar Tree has or had where I’m at their 10oz or 12oz bottle of fuel injection cleaner (ethanol) that works great $1.25 if you’re on a budget
About 2-3yrs ago I had acquired bottles of a very watery hand sanitizer that was great (free left over from COVID-19) maybe 80%? or more burned a nice blue flame
Also YT on using isopropyl alcohol but sooty unless your pot is 1/2” from the flame
For uber light stove I made a fancy feast using a 5.5 fl oz Mr Mrs T Bloody Mary mix aluminum can it came in at 0.4 oz
I found that if you open the can with a can opener you don't have the lip
You are no wast my time thanks bro
Can you use fiberglass as a wick?
Thanks for this. I live on a small island, so I'm having difficulty finding carbon felt. Even online at home depot I can't find it - is it called by another name?
What is the thickness of the felt? I have some 95% real wool felt that I use for making insoles for boots, so I will try that if it's the right thickness!
Soul Path Shoes I found it on Amazon, but you can also use oil lamp wicks, or possibly even regular fiberglass insulation (the pink stuff).
@@crr5699 Thanks, but I finally found some. I had to call it "flame protector" for them to know what it was! I learned that from Hiram Cook's video.
You can use fiberglass cloth.
You can use the toilet paper too. I made it for my DIY Stove.
Hello, Ernie - this has been an informative video! I just came over from the one you posted comparing several models. My only question that didn't seem to be addressed by another commenter or yourself is this: HOW MUCH LONGER WOULD ICY COLD WATER TAKE TO BOIL vs. tepid tap water?
Thanks for the video. How well does the Bot hold water with the lid on tight? any leaks??
+Kent Benton I can say I have never had any issues with the BOT. It has a rubber seal, and I really baby it and make sure it never gets too hot etc. I have to say I love the BOT, works as advertised.
You can make a diy simmer ring using another can slightly above the wick. Then cut the can so it looks like a windscreen you don't have to remove your pot and pan from the pot stand. Just open the can simmer ring, then close it when you have lined up with the wick. :)
Can't follow what you're saying at *all* 😵💫
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Sweet vid.
+brooks newsome Thanks so much for watching! Stay tuned this weekend as I am announcing a give away when I hit 500 subs and you can win one of these stoves!
+PaleoHikerMD SWEET!!!!!
BTW - Great video! thank you
Holy cow the $60+ overhead for the carbon felt is riiiidiculous 😂 these are NOT as cheap as everyone is making them out to be!
I just used a folded paper towel as my wick. Cheap enough to replace 🤷♂️
I’ve got to make one of these! How big are the holes you drilled?
I just subscribe to your channel, because of this stove performance. I want to see how we can make it.
What was the material for the wick ?
Excellent little stove 🙏🏽😊
@@johnstewart1148 it was carbon felt
A V-8 can works instead of tomato paste. Is aluminum instead of steel.
What's the cleanest and simplest way to cut the bottom of the can off? I've tried hack saw and tin snips, but looking for a better way.
The t-past can should have identical ends. Use a can opener.
A DREMEL TOOL WORKS WELL.
Hi Ernie:-)
What is the point of you making then so small??
Why not make them bigger so you can make more than coffee?
Nice videos you are making👍
Best regards from Denmark 🇩🇰
You can make them bigger using a progessive soup can with a Green Giant Extra Long Asparagus Spears, 15 Oz. can. Now you have a bigger, taller fancy feast. :) www.walmart.com/ip/Green-Giant-Extra-Long-Asparagus-Spears-15-Oz/10319329?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=3408&&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9030904&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=10319329&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqrb7BRDlARIsACwGad7f6kwUlInSg-0XMq2Hl9BavXMCqAAdXSXLoSIyjpWk4_1DHeNtWucaAg5bEALw_wcB
Thank you for the video. Can the stove hold more than 1 ounce of fuel?
Free Spirit yes
As long as it is below the cat can top enough to not overflow
Which alcohol are you using...? Methanol...? HEET yellow bottle...?
I followed your instructions to the letter but I am only getting about a 5-minute burn time. I am using the yellow bottle of heat. Any ideas as to what is going on?
Please put the steel wool to the tomato can in the middle. The burn time will be longer.
@@poutchiepuffin4266they said they followed the instructions. The cans don't assemble together without the carbon felt-they used it.
Great Video! I live in Australia and we have different cans. If you get a chance, could you give me the diameters of the 2 cans so I can try to make one also?
+Hamish Benson (HamishWillB) I will do so my friend, give me a day or two!
+Hamish Benson (HamishWillB) The diameter of the tomato paste can is a hair over 2 inches and the cat food can is a hair over 2 1/2 inches (measurement at the outside top lips = 2 1/8" inner can and 2 5/8" outer can. -- inside diameters of those two cans are 2" and 2 1/2"). I'm using Canadian products which are metric like Oz. So the tomato paste can is 156ml or 5.5 oz liq www.empiremarkets.ca/index.php/cannedfood/condiments-spices/hunts-tomato-paste-156ml.html and the cat food can is 85gr www.mrcase.com/pet-supplies/cat-food/fancfest-cat-food-grilled-tuna-24x85g.html. When buying the tomato paste can, get the kind with a paper label that can be taken off. Some come with a painted-on label and it's unhealthy when cooking due to the fumes of paint burning off. Any tab lid cat food can of that size should do the trick as they're all made of aluminum with the same dimensions. Colorado Camper has a great video on making a matching simmer ring for the Fancy Feast stove which is what I'm working on right now (with 7 holes instead of his 8). Hiram Cook has another version which I built yesterday. I'm going to try them out later today. Good luck! I lived in Melbourne for 5 years and miss the Rainbow Lorikeets and palm trees -- not to mention the warm temps.
Did he respond? From Australia also.
+Dubious Doublechin Follow the measurements/examples that I gave. Canada is metric like Oz. Americans are non-metric.
I walked around the store and just eyeballed cans, looking for cans that will nest inside each other.
The only dimension I care about is that the can heights be around a 1 inch difference. I have gone as high as a 1 1/2" difference.
Carbon fiber works great, so does ceramic fiber but they can be expensive and/or hard to find...more economic to make with if you make several.
Surprisingly enough, cotton cloth works also (just put out the dying flame before it burns the cloth). I've also used steel wool, the fine fiber kind not the coarse kind.
Heck, I've even used no fiber (harder to start) but I used some cordage around the inner base to keep a consistent gap.
I've heard of other people successfully using the pink fiberglass successfully.
My only change from the original poster's procedure is to poke the holes in the inner can, just above the top of the outer can...I feel that helps to get the felt lit quicker. (With the hole below the inner can rim, you can soak the felt a little when filling if your alcohol hits above the hole)
You can also make a simmer ring out of a can bottom that nests/rests stably on the outer can rim. I've had good luck with a simmer ring that barely touches the pot bottom and has 3 large notches in the top of the simmer ring.
Have fun, when I was checking the variations of this stove out I had cans all over the place and my place constantly smelled of burning can liner...this stove was way more reliable, and lit easier (I cheated and filled by soaking the felt), without fear of spilling than any other stove I tested.
I was using a 12 inch cast iron frying pan, so I chose cans as wide as I could find.
Can you add more than one once of fuel at the start for a longer burn time?
Absolutely, you can add quite a bit more if you want...
How long does that felt last?
Carbon felt is not easy to find in my country Argetina🇦🇷. I made that stove using steel wool instead (that we can find in cleaning supplies) and it worked just fine.
Paper towel works fine
Surely you can find antistatic foam felt in a electronic parts shop (for the protection of sensitive semiconductors). It's the same thing!
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Surely I will... Only that steel wool it's more popular so it's cheaper, easyer to find, and it's steel... so I bet it shall last longer you know...
@@shofarox4037 I made it with toilet paper, and put the steel wool to the tomato can (in the middle). The burn time is longer a little bit.
But, my favorite DIY stove is my super mini stove. I made it from my night cream tin (30mm diameter and 17mm high).
It needs around 7 minutes for boiling 1 cup (with 8ml of methanol) and the flame burns out in 9:08.
I take it mostly when I go outdoor. The pot stand, the windshield, the 8ml bottle of mehanol, i put it all together in my candy can.
My another favorite DIY stove is my Tuna can 120 grams. I always bring it when 1 go camping. The flame burns out is around 50 minutes (I put 40ml of methanol). If I have time, I will try to make the simmer ring and I am sure the flame burns out more than 1 hour.
I use the steel wool for both stove.
@@poutchiepuffin4266just a tuna can with meths in it?? No inner can, no modifications? So confused...
Ok, I'm new to the DIY stove. Carbon felt, do you have to replace it at some point? Thanks
I never have and I've used stoves for years and years, thanks for watching!
Have you tried making this with more than two notches for the fuel on the inside? and or with more holes up top for vents?
There must not be a need for more, it's just the engineer in me wanting to see... :) THANKS
PROBLEM: I believe it is the black carbon felt that is causing a black smokey layer on my cooking container/pot. Is there a source/type of carbon felt that will NOT create this smokey layer?
This could be due to the type of alcohol you are using. Use de-natured alcohol. Easiest to find is the STP gas treatment in the yellow bottle. Not the red bottle.
What fuel do you find the best.
I've been using turpentine (the purple stuff) which burns fine but leaves a black dusty residue.
What's the best????
Americans often use HEET yellow bottle. In Europe, one can usually find "spirits" or denatured alcohol, methylated alcohol, etc.
do you know the diameter of the cans? the one i have made looks like there is a bit more of a gap between cans.. also what thickness carbon felt is it?
curious... how many times can you use until you have to replace the carbon felt?
You can use the stove hundred and hundreds of times. I have friends who have used the same stove tons for well over 5 years and it is still going strong.
I am wondering why one can't just pour a little alcohol in a fancy feast can and put a pot on a pot stand about 1" above the top of the cat can? thank you for your thoughts on this. mary
You absolutely can, I would just punch some holes around the top to let some air in and you should be good! Thanks for watching.