7 Most Political Football Clubs - Part Two
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- From the left-wing sentiments of Rayo Vallecano's support to the Basque nationalist and separatist feelings that exist at Athletic Club or Athletic Bilbao, for the second time, HITC Sevens takes a look at some of the most political football / soccer teams on Earth.
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I know the view counts tend to be lowest, but these are some of my favorite videos. You do a really good job with these videos and your passion and enthusiasm really shine through. The Irish Guy is entertaining, but your content undeniably the highest quality in terms of depth of information and strength of research. Keep up the good work, mate. You're seriously a gem of a TH-camr.
Cheers Thomas, glad you enjoy them.
I was thinking the same thing but didnt know how to phrase it. You are so right. When i watch his videos i am always thinking that he has more than 1 mil subscribers. I discoved this channel by accident because he made a video about my hometown club. A true hidden gem. I really hope this channel will explode.
I agree!
Completly agree lad
So much better than the ego driven other channel, I've respect for this guy for making videos like this and the one on the possible new Newcastle owners, most football channels would be too ignorant or cowardly to make such a video.
This channel would be so much better if the comment section wasn't filled video suggestions talk about the video instead
think it might be time for a Discord server
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Usually yes, but definitely not on this video lol
Orange bastard
Ireland isnt britain you little scumbag
7 best forwards who have never scored a hat trick
Not martial anymore thankfully
Origi, Fernando Llorente, Lasagna?
Abdalla Hamad Llorente isn’t a forward
He has to do it sometime soon
@@bluest.9320 Bolognase?
You forgot about Millwall, the club who masters the politics of chaos
that was like in the 1980s football hooligans are an English past-time.....
english atmosphere is dead
@@slslskspslba2407 Millwall is the last standing. Maybe, Crystal Palace also (really, the only English club whose stickers I have seen in Europe)
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I was going to say you’re wrong. But anarchism is a very strong social tradition, so sir you are 100% correct
Do a part 3!
Nice to see my Athletic Club represented on one of these lists. While the cantera/local player policy does have political ramifications, I wouldn't say that the club is more nationalist or "separatist" than Real Sociedad. La Real used to have the same policy until 1989 (only gave it up due to Basque talent being either bought by rich clubs or Athletic), and their region votes more for radical nationalist/separatist parties than Athletic Clubs. Within the Athletic Club-Real Sociedad Rivalry, there is a mutual respect on the level of them both being clubs with strong Basque identities (this doesn't apply to Eibar, Alavés, and Osasuna, for various reasons)... so if anything, I think it should be a tie between the two teams. While outsiders view Athletic as more political because of its policies, from fan perspective, they're equally political.
Exactly 🦁❤️
Why it doesnt apply to alaves, osasuna and eibar???
@@zzz5094 1. Alaves's region, Alava, has more cultural links to Castille than the coastal provinces, and except for certain pockets in the regional capital, there isn't as much Basque nationalist sentiment. The region just gave a seat in Basque parliament to a neo-fascist pro-Spain party. They're proud to be the government capital of the Basque Autonomous community, but they tend to be of the "I'm Basque, but also Spanish" ideology. Still, much of their advertisements and slogans are in Basque, because in the Basque Autonomous Community they're trying to make it an institutional language. Also, most clubs in Galicia, Catalunya and Valencia do this with their regional languages, and it's not seen as nationalist. (Even the club called ESPANYOL has slogans in Catalán all over its stadium)
2. Osasuna is in Pamplona, which has lots of nationalists and Basque speakers, so there is a strong nationalist contingent of Osasuna fans. That said, Osasuna is the only top-level professional team in the Chartered Community of Navarre, which has deep Basque cultural roots in the north, but also very conservative Spanish areas in the south, where no Basque is spoken. Regardless of ideology or mother tongue, most people in Navarre support Osasuna, so the fandom is split somewhat evenly between nationalists and centralists. I don't know firsthand if this creates tension between Osasuna fans. (Edit: On twitter, lots of people will get angry if you call Osasuna a Basque club, but once you remind them that their name is literally the Basque word for "health", they usually shut up.)
3. Eibar was founded right after the Spanish civil war, so for their first 40 years or so of existence they couldn't develop institutional ties to Basque nationalism or identity. While the town itself is very Basque, the club has risen to prominence in recent years through its ability to sign players on the cheap and resell them at profit. They don't have a significant local youth program that I know of. The only Basque players they sign are typically Real Sociedad or Athletic youth players who couldn't find a spot in the senior team, and the two big clubs typically buy them back if they show any promise (see Ander Capa and Dani Garcia). People love them because they are a smartly managed club. They represent the opposite end of the spectrum from Athletic's policy.
La Real and Athletic were created and had success during the peak years of the first wave of Basque nationalism (1896-1936). Furthermore, they represent the regional capitals of the two "most Basque" areas: Bizkaia, where Basque nationalism was founded, and Gipuzkoa, where more Basque is spoken and there are more rural traditions. They both have had Basque-only policies for most of their histories. After Franco died, the clubs became synonymous with the push to legalize the Basque national flag and other manifestations of national identity. I could go on like this, but ultimately they are two evenly matched rivals from the two unquestionably Basque regions.
@@nicsmith7689 Thanks for the long explanation. Btw, im a F.C.Porto fan, but my father is galician, and he say that he's Galician and not Spanish, although in Galiza they're not so Separatist as in the Basque country or Cataluna, but still, i love all the clubs that represent and take proud of their region like Athletic,and that's why i liked the club since i was a kid, specialy the just play basque players policy. Good luck for the next season!
@@zzz5094he’s Celtic Galicians are Celtic like us Scot’s Irish Bretagne Wales etc
I’m getting into football now I’m in my 20s, and I largely approach football through my interest in sociology and politics. This video is really well made and clued up about the political sides to these clubs, which is something I don’t see a lot of!
I have the same mindset as you do. Glad to find another budding fan.
I find this channel very informative as a cross the pond viewer. I'm learning a ton on the roots here that I wish I would have known sooner.
Really interesting. I love learning about supporter culture. Please do a part 3
You should get the 1312: Among Ultras book, it describes the fan culture of the most countries in the world.
@@TheBonecrusherz I will search it. I would love to be part of an Ultras group myself. Unfortunately I support Norwich City 😕
I think you should do part 3. This is interesting.
Cameroon 2017 Africa Cup Winning Team: Where Are They Now?
nigeria 2013 where are they now
Algeria 2019
@@t0by_is_the_best That one is to recent imo
2015 Ivory Coast Starting XI Africa Cup of Nations Winners: Where are they now? 🤣
Athletic Club doesnt discriminate players by their etnicity or their place of birth.
Two good examples are Iñaki Williams and Christian Ganea.
Iñaki's parents moved from Ghana to the Basque Country and he was born in Bilbao. Nowadays he is one of the most important players of the team (and hopefully we will also see his brother in the future since he is playing in the academy).
On the other hand, Cristian Ganea wasn't born in the Basque Country. He was born in Romania instead. He moved to the Basque Country when he was 12 years old and years later he signed for Athletic Club.
You can't consider the Club being racist. Usually people who say that is because of ignorance
Athletic Bilbao is my second team and I'm a Celtic fan. I wouldn't support Bilbao of they were racist. Greetings from Glasgow 🍀
@@tonyh7994 the left wing team in Sociedad athletic Bilbao is the center right sepretised
@@ErosFabbriGk2026 But they are both left wing in comparison to the rest of Spain surely?
@@tonyh7994 not really most of Spain is sepretist or just normal fans centrist left and right I’m saying athletic club are center right because the city isn’t filled with E.T.A propaganda the center of the right wing nationalist party is in Bilbao
It is still discrimination. Cant ignore that.
7 Clubs in danger of administration
WICKERS Bolton nearly Blackpool Oldham etc. It would be a good video.
Bolton and Cruzeiro cof cof
Rangers
Barcelona
Easy easy treble treble 😂🍀
Chile 2015-2016 Copa America Winning Team: Where Are They Now?
Alexis Sanchez - ??????????
Arturo Vidal - ?????????
Claudio Bravo - ?????????
Marcelo Diaz - ???????
Charles Aranguiz - ?????????
Maurizio Isla - ???????
Eduardo Vargas - ?????????
Gary Medel - ????????
Jean Beausejour - ????????
Francisco Silva - ????????
Sanchez-Inter
Vidal-Barca
Bravo-Man City
M. Diaz-Racing Club
Aranguiz-Leverkuzen
Isla-Fenerbahce
Vargas-Tigres
Medel-Bologna
Beausejour and Francisco i think are at Universidad de Chile not sure
@@bidza5059 I'm right here bro
@@bidza5059 Jean Beasejour - Universidad de Chile
Francisco Silva - Universidad Católica
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Pls make a part three i love this series
Please do a part 3!
7 most religious clubs
7 least religious clubs
Mbs pro league
Celtic would probably be number 1
Ampicable gamer Hearts and Rangers are more religious whilst Celtic are more political
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Do a part 3 mate!!
I’ve been looking forward to this video
Love videos like these keep it up :)
Definitely make a part 3! And please include a MLS club for your lovely American fans!
You will get 27 antifa clubs in america, not that interesting don't you think
what i was thinking lol. the MLS as a whole is a left wing league.@@luukvangemert421
At first I thought it would be great if more football clubs and fan bases in England were political, but then thinking about it I think we’d have far more Zenit’s than St. Pauli’s
Vassilis Spanoulis burner account just a matter of personal taste I’d rather black players getting called monkeys and Nazi salutes not be common place at games
Vassilis Spanoulis burner account do you think St.Pauli players are forced to come out publicly and say they want to kill all right wing and white people and burn the German flag? You might not think St. Pauli supporters are any better than Zenit supporters, but don’t pretend they’re the same it just makes you look daft
Liverpool and Everton have pretty Left Wing fanbases!
And Forest Green Rovers are nakedly Political!
And Burnley of course are in the news right now for Political reasons!
Vassilis Spanoulis burner account comparing a left wing supporter base with a neo Nazi supporter base is like comparing Coffee to Pizza!!
both are different things even though both are food!
point being, you don’t get bunch of racist trying to exterminate people who are not of there own colour or religion in a club like St Pauli but you do on one of those pretty neo Nazi-extremist ones!
Fran Ohmsford yeah Liverpool is probably the most left wing city in England so that makes sense, just a shame there’s very rarely organised action through the club. I imagine it’s because at the end of the day the big English clubs have become businesses and the owners don’t want to rock the boat. As for Burnley that’s what I mean by we’d end up with a load of Zenit’s, the racist twats will be a loud minority at some clubs
Part 3 please Alfred !!
7 best players that are out on loan, but will start for their club next season
Portland timbers in the US is pretty political left wing team for a American team in which we tend to ask our athletes and teams to stick to sports and stay away from politics
I sense the deep sarcasm
Us and Seattle are probably the most political clubs in the country. The Iron Front ban was hated everywhere, but the outcry was loudest with us.
thomasthatsit Seattle definitely is also the reason I said Portland tho is just I remember them more at the center of the iron front controversy and the timbers army really leading the charge agaisnt the mls
Portland Timbers were taken over by the Left the moment they were created! Their fanbase made it very clear right from the start! Portland is a heavily Left Wing city in a Right Wing state. Yes the State itself leans Democrat but only because Portland itself has 47% of the Population of the entire State!
The more Conservative Americans tend to put the NFL and the MBA way ahead of Soccer anyway and that means that even in heavily Republican areas the MLS teams are going to have mainly Democrat leaning fanbases..
Telling athletes to stick to sports and stay away from politics is never used honestly or by those with un extreme views.
Vídeo idea:
The Portuguese squad who won the Euro 2016, where are they now?
Ronaldo - Juve
Wolverhampton
If there is a Part Three we know Bastia will be on the list.
Not to mention that Rayo have cool kits, that rainbow spin on the red strip was cool
Day 37: XI of most own goals scored since 2010/of all time/this season
David Luiz, Mustafi...
@@mickmccarthy8219 They are not even close , believe me.
Adminho
7 most underrated left-footed footballers from Bulgaria
Yeah, and after that the 12 most underrated right-footed player from Somalia
Peter Porzellan I don’t know. Don’t you think that’s a little too obvious?
Acting like those aren't alfie's dream videos
How about a video considering how past players would fit into todays squads or if they could have 2 players from the past come back in their prime, e.g Ronaldo at United, Stevie G at Liverpool, or like Kaka and R9 at madrid ?
Make a part 3 please!!!
Why Celtic but no rangers. They went years refusing to sign catholic’s
Stop and think why. It's political not religious
@@djevo5662 they also have had entire fan groups banned for racism... even this year lol. But yeah it tends to be a section of fanbase rather than the club itself since they have taken actions like banning those
Religion is political, however... whether we want it to be or not!
Because Rangers' politics is more or less based off of the idea "let's do the opposite of what Celtic do". Ever notice when Celtic fans started coming out in support of Palestine a number of Israeli flags started popping up around Ibrox?
@@c0222 Isreal flags are very uncommon at ibrox nowadays
7 best own-goalscorers
Richard Dunne
@@kavin7279 more like me
Javier Mascherano
Geoffrey Kondogbia
Adminho
Can you do one about 7 players who are very good who transcended statistics. ie. players who had a playing style which wasn't revolving around assists or goal scoring because they would play the pass before the assist who a statistician could argue is terrible but they are a brilliant player
Do a part 3!!!
Do a "Great Britain 1900 Olympic gold medal team where are they now?" video!
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@@yahyadipalma6707 well done you have found the joke
I have one in a jar
@@yahyadipalma6707 I guess as was my joke...
7 teams which never had a real golden generation
7 players who played on with medical conditions (Edgar Davids, Saul etc)
StuckDucks teams which never had a team particularly above all of their past or future ones(Burnley, Palermo) or even really good teams who never had a standout side like Germany because they’ve always been very good
@@DylanlaherBlogspotIe You know you're a moron right? RIGHT???
@@DBuckyBoy who tf says moron
I think the golden generation thing only applies on national sides, not football clubs as their teams tend to change every season.
Greatest football vids in TH-cam by farrrr
I love your mind man, incredible!
Day 7:Ranking every Borussia Dortmund striker since Robert Lewandowski.
Alcacer and Haland
Immobile, Ramos, Aubameyang Batshuayi ?
@@ooooooooooooooooo350yeah those too
Don't forget the mighty Julian Schieber
“CoMmUnIsT”
Please do part 3 Alfie 🙏
Part 3 please!!!!
Every England goalkeeper since David Seaman retired from international football in 2002.
Part 3
can you do a part 3?
Part 3 now!!!
Celtic: Supports Palestine
Also Celtic: has ties with a club in Israel
To be fair Hapoel is a very left wing club and some of their fans even support Palestine so it makes sense
@Bosco's box Left-wing nationalism isn't about expelling people. It's about creating polities defined by their rightful owners. The North of Ireland is occupied from Westminster, Irish republicans want to change that, they don't want to force out protestants and unionists who have equal representation on the flag of Ireland as catholics. In much the same way Palestine is occupied by a settler colonial state. We should abolish that state, not force out Jewish people, many of whom have lived in Palestine peacefully with their Muslim and Christian neighbours for centuries.
Whats wrong with that? You can accept the original borders while being against the illegal occupations that have broken UN mandate. Many Isrealis hold this position, of course they are branded false Jews for supporting international law.
@@AndyTomlins keep preaching my brother.
The idea that it is someone anti semetic to oppose colonialism is anti semetic in itself. There are many Jews in my family and none of them support colonialism. The idea that we must support Israel for some reason is far more insulting than any critisism of Israel we hear.
Celtic is a club open for all
All time South America xi without Argentina and brazil
Part 3 ; YES please.
We need a part 3 😢
For part 3 check out SV Babelsberg from Germany.
Or Jena
Or Chemie Leipzig
7 best footballers to have scored over 3 goals or 3 assists (over 3, so not 3) in one game
Are you still gonna do a video on Sergio Busquets?
At some stage, yes.
VIDEO IDEA: *EVERY EPL CLUB'S BEST ACADEMY PRODUCT*
Highest goalscorer in each position of all time pls 😀
It is done if I remember correctly.
Asking for the sixty-eighth time; an all time greatest XI of one club men ?
Nice!
Gk lev Yashin Lb maldini. Cb Baresi and Tony Adams rb carles puyol. Cdm scholes cm Matt le tissier cm Bobby Charlton. Lw Giggs striker Totti rw Messi
@@devoted_eater567 Not Messi anymore😓
Part 3 please
1:34 one to many Os in football there.
I don't hold any political views & don't tend to understand a lot of it but I still managed to find the video interesting. It's good to learn I guess.
You don't hold any political views? What are you, a potato? Everybody holds political views! No offense tho.
you should do 7 players who have had a past wit crime
Do part 3
Regarding Hapoel Tel Aviv, they're part of one of two former major sporting organizations: Hapoel (the worker's) and Makkabi. Hapoel are generally more left-leaning but not always. They're relatively well supported in Israel, often outside of Tel Aviv
I'm in the photo at 6:00. 😀 It was taken at Veltins Arena in Gelsenkirchen in 2010 when Schalke played against Hapoel Tel Aviv in the UCL. We raised the roof of the stadium. Not only is Hapoel an extremely left wing team but we also have some of the noisiest fans in Europe.
I'm probably not the first one to comment that under your videos whenever a club like this is mentioned but the -er ending after a city name only really makes sense when you put something after it. Chemnitzer FC means "FC of Chemnitz"; just saying "Chemnitzer" is wrong. Same for Hamburger SV or Karlsruher SC.
7 most underrated players of all time (eg ribery, Carlos Alberto)
Ribery never was underrated tho
Believe it or not Real Sociedad could be considered a much more pro-indepence (I hate the "separatist" term) club than Athletic. Gipuzkoa is the most basque province of the seven which conform Euskal Herria, it's where euskara is prevalent in a lot of zones and politically the IA (the Abertzale Left) earns most votes. Bizkaia has more inmigrants (absolutely no problem with them) and there the PNV wins, which is a regionalist party, they don't care about the independence.
Day 2: Rating every Premier league club's best youth academy signing
Thanks for not backing off the fact that racism is racist.
Day 5-Best shirt no. of all time for every premier league team
Katidis story was a little sad actually. From what I read from comments during that time period he truly didn't know because he skipped most of school in favour of football. He was even the captain of the U-21 Greek team that made it in the European U-21 final only to lose to Spain. He just saw it and thought it was cool. There was also some movement of supporting him by using the same gesture but in the end he failed his career
The Lesson of the story:
Kids never skip school
He has a “get rich or die trying” tattoo and amine tattoos he knows what that means 😂😂
@@sandrorubelli8580 Being rich is contradictory with national socialism
@@kirahviofficial5761 not true. what if everyone is rich because there’s an abundance of resources
Shut up mate
@@Racc988
Damn, I was told to shut up by an account that refers to itself as "communist cult". I can remove it from my bucket list.
7 siblings who play for different national teams
Boateng brothers, Pogba brothers, Xhaka brothers, etc.
I really love this because It shows what clubs I want to support
I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing
A separate video can be made on St Paoli
Do a " 7 European left wing clubs" video.
As a left leaning man, I admire left win politics, especially in football.
So far I've learned I admire Schalke FC, on account of their left wing ideologies of fan ownership etc.
I've learned I admire AEK Athens, who oppose racism and hatred.
I've learned I admire Athletic Bilbao, who strengthen local talent.
I oppose racism and I am about as right wing as they come politically. So what exactly is your point? Leftism "feels" good and that's why you and others like you admire it so much. It "feels" good to simply say "I oppose racism/bigotry/etc", but it doesn't MEAN anything. So what is racism? Calling someone different than you a nasty name? No, that's just being a nasty person. People have the right to be nasty, and then they can deal with the consequences. If that was racism, the whole world would be racist. How about telling someone you are banned from joining our team because of what you look like, believe, what your sexual orientation is, etc. Yes, that would be. And I am on the right and would never support such a thing. Racism and bigotry is not synonymous with politics. The left likes to paint this picture of that uneducated, knuckle dragging right wing hater but that is absolute nonsense. Read up on South American countries sometime, most of the big ones anyways. They are some of the most racist places on the planet and they are all run by left wing governments. Not saying right wingers can't be racist because they can, and are. But your political views do not definite your views on race. That is an entirely separate thing, usually life experience and culture.
@@digitalfootballer9032 From my experiences with leftists, they are truly the biggest liars and most racist people I've met. They have totally altered the meaning of left wing to the point that, as a nonwhite person, I now learn to associate the word "left" with people like him. And while they claim to be "tolerant" they sure as fuck are NOT.
@@digitalfootballer9032they do. If you believe in Capitalism you believe in a class system which is historical and currently racist. Nice try though scum
1:39 AEK Athens 🇬🇷
F-Right
3:06 Hansa Rostock 🇩🇪
F-Right
4:18 Athletic Club (Basque)
Separatist
5:30 Hapobel Tel Aviv 🇮🇱
F-Left
6:46 Celtic 🇮🇪
F-Left
8:18 Chemnitzer FC 🇩🇪
F-Right
9:43 Rayo Vallecano 🇪🇸
F-Left
AEK Athens is more left-wing
aek is on the left
aek is left wing bastard
Do a video on the rivalry between Birmingham City vs Aston villa
Ayyy my local Dulwich Hamlet got a mention haha
i like this video series.
its hard to remain impartial and i love both of the political videos (as well as everything HITC sports and sevens makes)
just wanted to say i like the political incase you get hate from racists :)
Who's up for starting a centrist football club.
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Centrism is an absence of conviction and not a real political position. It's a good spot for people who find morality negotiable
Willy Wonka what you're talking about is apolitical people. Centrism is having elements of left and right without heavily leaning one way or another
There's either the private ownership of the means of production, or there's public. There's no middle-ground. What you're talking about is people who pick and choose from disparate ideologies to better suit themselves. These people are egotistical, and stupid
@@willywonka7812 that's a very black and white view of a very gray world. Not like people pick and choose from certain ideologies anyway.
please do Clapton C.F.C.
at some point, wit h their uniform tribute to the International Brigades
Did you say compromise would be brilliant? That means keeping the status quo
Day 95 asking Alfie for the All Time Antartica XI.
The penguins?
Are you stuck there ( working ) ? Or in a Nick or in North Dorset waiting for a bus ? 🏴😇
Germany 2014 World Cup where are they now.
Day 38-7 National Heroes that failed in Europe or top 5 leagues
Most genuine football channel great support
Greatest XI of players of African descent who could have played for African national teams including retired players e.g. Eusebio, Zinedine Zidane, Mario Coluna, Marcel Desailly, Patrick Vieira etc.
The whole French team
dont worry man, idiots on youtube will get mad at you just for saying you like cookies, theyll always find a way to get mad even if its you saying racism is bad which should be objective and normal anyways. One side is racist and proud and the other side is anti-racist and proud so theres nothing you are lying about and trying to convince anyone of by saying the facts and "manifestos" of these supporters. Keep making great vids.
Saying racism is bad and branding yourself as an anti racist are two different things. One is political and one is not. I agree racism is bad, but I am not an anti racist...in the same sense that I believe adultery is bad, alcoholism is bad, and just plain being a mean nasty person is bad, but none of these things are illegal, and if you want to be a bad person you have every right to be so, and deal with the consequences thereof. To me there is a big difference.
@@digitalfootballer9032 I dont see how theres a difference. You seem to be caught up in polarized labels also and are ignoring definitions. By you saying you think racism is bad that then in turn makes you an anti-racist. If you witnessed someone being a racist and called them out then you are being anti-racist. Being an anti-racist is not being anti-free speech which I think you're implying unless I read that wrong. It's simply being a person who doesn't put up with it and calls it out. Imo if you don't call it out or back people calling it out then you dont really think its bad as you are tolerating it. I just think people need to stop letting the news and the internet twist definitions and assign their own agenda to them when they are simple things such as being against racism.
7 rather good managers who were better known for their playing carrer rather then their managerial
(Example: Johan Cruijff)
Ranking every Real Madrid striker since Raul Gonzalez left in 2010.
Here in Brazil we have Corinthians, founded by the working class and also known for the movement "Democracia Corinthiana" a political and social movement of the left-wing against the dictators and nationalists in power
Great video mate!
Alfie is defo a centrist
He’s pretty based
DO ANOTHER ONE!!!
2010 Ghana XI that lost to Uruguay. Where are they now?
Better red than dead
better dead than a nazi
@@MuphFatHole Nazis die, Anarchists multiply
I’m doing a road to glory with st Pauli and I just signed a crap ton of players of right wings clubs without realizing
Just made st pauli better by accident
@@kirahviofficial5761 fr I also forgot saint Pauli was Marxist too😂😂
@@kirahviofficial5761 fu
Do part three (you can draw examples from french football : Lens, Saint Etienne, etc.)
Good idea
Top Xl who play for a club that has never attended the Europa of Champions league