Good job! The postwar metal trucks came in bar end and staple end varieties. If you lightly oil the wheel at the axle, they run as well as any of the new trucks. The late postwar era went to plastic trucks but the metal ones, being heavier track better. The dies on the box cars were modified over time and the rivet lines were eliminated to make more room for graphics the same is true on the 81/2” cars as well. Those later cars may possibly be the same modified postwar molds. The earlier 6462 gondolas had a separately applied brake wheel these were eliminated after the first year or so of production to reduce costs, they also did this with the 6456 hoppers. also the earlier gondolas had a metal frame under the plastic bodies where the trucks were mounted. The modern logos are awesome but very expensive. I love my postwar locos. And some if the newer ones with the sound. Thanks for a great video.
I hope that in 40 years time, you still have all of these trains. I can promise you that parts will be available for the postwar and mpc era trains without electronics. Those nice quiet DC can motors, good luck finding replacements. I have many mpc era freight cars and most of them have die cast sprung trucks. I agree with you that their plastic couplers suck.
Very nice! I run almost exclusively post-war and MPC, with a few modern cars and an MTH Rail King locomotive. I've never had a problem with a Pullmor motor and all of my post-war engines from 1950-53 still run quite well. A little lube and new brushes is about all that they need. Post-war trucks are stout, but don't roll worth a damn. The needlepoint-bearing trucks that were introduced during the MPC era are excellent. I've pulled 45 cars of the MPC era, along with newer Lionel, K-Line and Williams, with one locomotive. My post-war cars are bricks, as far as trucks go. I tried pulling ten tank cars and they actually can string-line on a curve. The detailing on the newer equipment is very good, for sure. I wish, though, that they had metal couplers and side tabs, rather than the thumbtack tabs on the bottom. An excellent video, as always.
Postwar metal trucks roll just fine. The thing is, that old metal gets sticky with age, and the old lubricants become a problem. Plus there is an electolytic reaction between the rail and the sintered iron wheel resulting in a thick, rubbery gunk buildup on the wheel. I use a liquid contact cleaner, De-Ox-Id, applied with a q-tip, it cuts through the gunk. Take the entire truck apart, clean the metal, use a paper stick q-tip, when it's used up, cut off the cotton end, run the paper stick through the wheel centers. Apply oil to the wheel centers before attaching them to the axle. A dab of oil in the sideframe axle socket, and those are some very freerolling trucks. Ever seen an early postwar all metal boxcar coast 30 feet after being given a push? It's awesome.
You didn't mention a track system offered by Lionel between 1957 through 1966: Super O. It can be a bit quirky; however it has the best electrical conductivity of all track systems. The curvature is 036 which after 1958 was the widest curvature available for many years to come. It's certainly superior to fastrack and better looking than tubular.
@colestrains1 I think it depends, me personally, I don't find it super appealing, I much prefer postwar engines fitted with original tech, but that's just me, for modern tech in postwar engines, I recommend modern reissue such as the century club line
@@davidstrainsandlego fair enough, I only say my 681 because it’s already been repainted rewired and converted to liquid smoker before I got it. Thanks David!
@@XCELERATIONRULES Agree. Sound gets annoying. QC is poor and everything is expensive! My old #2018 locomotive has been running around the Christmas tree every Christmas since 1956. The quality is just not there anymore. The new trains are beautiful, packed with features but I’ll take a reliable and basic train that I know that will last and not break my bank account. The war between Lionel and MTH, this push for realism, features and scale got us here and in some ways it was good for the hobby, in other ways not. Take a look at the new Lionel catalog. Who can afford this?
My humble opinion is that I'll take my Lionel Postwar era collection over most things modern. My stuff was made in America by America's greatest generation.The history is rich and more honorable. 🇺🇸 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃
Good job explaining the difference
Cool post-war, MPC and modern comparisons. 💯
@@johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards Thank you
Good job! The postwar metal trucks came in bar end and staple end varieties. If you lightly oil the wheel at the axle, they run as well as any of the new trucks. The late postwar era went to plastic trucks but the metal ones, being heavier track better. The dies on the box cars were modified over time and the rivet lines were eliminated to make more room for graphics the same is true on the 81/2” cars as well. Those later cars may possibly be the same modified postwar molds. The earlier 6462 gondolas had a separately applied brake wheel these were eliminated after the first year or so of production to reduce costs, they also did this with the 6456 hoppers. also the earlier gondolas had a metal frame under the plastic bodies where the trucks were mounted. The modern logos are awesome but very expensive. I love my postwar locos. And some if the newer ones with the sound. Thanks for a great video.
I hope that in 40 years time, you still have all of these trains. I can promise you that parts will be available for the postwar and mpc era trains without electronics. Those nice quiet DC can motors, good luck finding replacements.
I have many mpc era freight cars and most of them have die cast sprung trucks. I agree with you that their plastic couplers suck.
Thanks for watching, these trains will be a life long hobby for me l, im sure of it
Nice comparison 👍 good video of old and new
@@ELWtrains thanks for watching
Very nice! I run almost exclusively post-war and MPC, with a few modern cars and an MTH Rail King locomotive. I've never had a problem with a Pullmor motor and all of my post-war engines from 1950-53 still run quite well. A little lube and new brushes is about all that they need. Post-war trucks are stout, but don't roll worth a damn. The needlepoint-bearing trucks that were introduced during the MPC era are excellent. I've pulled 45 cars of the MPC era, along with newer Lionel, K-Line and Williams, with one locomotive. My post-war cars are bricks, as far as trucks go. I tried pulling ten tank cars and they actually can string-line on a curve. The detailing on the newer equipment is very good, for sure. I wish, though, that they had metal couplers and side tabs, rather than the thumbtack tabs on the bottom. An excellent video, as always.
@johnandrus3901 Thanks for the comment, I agree, those postwar cars have a much harder time rolling than modern counterparts
Postwar metal trucks roll just fine. The thing is, that old metal gets sticky with age, and the old lubricants become a problem. Plus there is an electolytic reaction between the rail and the sintered iron wheel resulting in a thick, rubbery gunk buildup on the wheel. I use a liquid contact cleaner, De-Ox-Id, applied with a q-tip, it cuts through the gunk. Take the entire truck apart, clean the metal, use a paper stick q-tip, when it's used up, cut off the cotton end, run the paper stick through the wheel centers. Apply oil to the wheel centers before attaching them to the axle. A dab of oil in the sideframe axle socket, and those are some very freerolling trucks. Ever seen an early postwar all metal boxcar coast 30 feet after being given a push? It's awesome.
Great idea for the video !
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You didn't mention a track system offered by Lionel between 1957 through 1966: Super O. It can be a bit quirky; however it has the best electrical conductivity of all track systems. The curvature is 036 which after 1958 was the widest curvature available for many years to come. It's certainly superior to fastrack and better looking than tubular.
Yeah, super o was a great system , just wanted to quickly compare the two types of track I had
Me mightily thank thy, tis heaping plenty good useful knowledge, me thinks. Aaa?
What are your thoughts on postwar Lionel locomotives equipped with modern tech? I wanna do it on my 681 but I don’t know if it’s worth it
@colestrains1 I think it depends, me personally, I don't find it super appealing, I much prefer postwar engines fitted with original tech, but that's just me, for modern tech in postwar engines, I recommend modern reissue such as the century club line
@@davidstrainsandlego fair enough, I only say my 681 because it’s already been repainted rewired and converted to liquid smoker before I got it. Thanks David!
You failed to mention can motor electronics burning up on a serious derail rendering the locomotive useless.
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I think you might like this video, goes into a little more detail
Not interested in any of the modern features,the sound is annoying,I'll never buy these new trains.
They're not for everybody
@@davidstrainsandlego fair enough,I respect the guys,into the modern trains,but they are not for me.
@@XCELERATIONRULES
Agree. Sound gets annoying. QC is poor and everything is expensive! My old #2018 locomotive has been running around the Christmas tree every Christmas since 1956. The quality is just not there anymore. The new trains are beautiful, packed with features but I’ll take a reliable and basic train that I know that will last and not break my bank account. The war between Lionel and MTH, this push for realism, features and scale got us here and in some ways it was good for the hobby, in other ways not. Take a look at the new Lionel catalog. Who can afford this?
My humble opinion is that I'll take my Lionel Postwar era collection over most things modern. My stuff was made in America by America's greatest generation.The history is rich and more honorable. 🇺🇸 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃