The fact that there were minimal people at that time and they produced these magnificent buildings just don’t add up. I’ve been to St Louis twice but unfortunately I did not have the eyes that I do now. Thank you OWN for this presentation on St Louis.
On Union Station..if you pause the video at 33:34 and look for a downspout. When you find one take a look at the guides for the downspout. They are made out of the same rock as the whole building. They are curved and nestled into the building perfectly. This building will give you the chills when you get close to it. The old world buildings put off good vibes. Our asswipe overlords do not like.
@@oldworldex my pleasure..thanks for doing these videos. BTW..I live in St Louis and have poked around these buildings for a few years now. I actually did the Union Station over the summer. Inside and out. Its got everything.
Seems the arch was built during 1960's. Cahokia pyramids are really part of St. Loius and about 200' tall. Attempted excavations just scratching surface 2' down revealed stonework but were told to put back mudflood venner
I love these videos of yours. I am fascinated by that time period of 1870 to 1930 in the USA. There is definitely a sense of a sharp break that delineates pre-1945 and post-1945 America.
Thank you OWE for another great video. I'm now becoming increasingly astounded that people are still prepared to accept the horse and cart , shovel and muscle, narrative of construction in this time period . I realised cognitive dissonance was real , but I genuinely thought that eventually people would have to accept they have been victims of massive deceit . Please keep up the fantastic work .
These massive buildings that they say were put up in a year or two with horses and buggies? Meanwhile the 4 story apartment going up near me has now been under construction for over 2 years and is maybe 1/3 complete? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
I believe I saw 1867-68. Interesting because 1867 is the year Canada confederates into a country as well. Couple that with the end of the American civil war and we might have something here..@@Kat.Evangeline14
@@oldworldex Good point. That was the time when the "new" World took over. On March 30, 1867 Alaska was sold by Russia to the United States. Apparently, money never made it to Russia, and there was no copy of the Agreement in Russian.
If you look closely, those vertical (and horizontal) 'strings' from the cranes at 17:30 are not strings at all but the edges of the cut outs they pasted on to the photo of the structure.Doesn't make much sense to have cables that close to building anyway, but i guess it was good enough back in the day to convince people.
Judging by the architecture, there were two main groups of people who came to America in the mid to late 1800’s…genius, hard working artisans and insane lunatics. The number of artisans and crazy people to substantiate this level of construction is astounding! 😉
Thank you Chris. I remember seeing many old world menus in the restaurants inside these structures and the food served was also amazing. Graduating from WSU in Detroit at the end of the 1970's I still remember the excellent and healthy food choices in the now long gone department store cafeterias. We even had mom and pop meat markets where you could see the quality of the meats and seafood unlike today. May seem like a tangent but I think it all ties together with a society where there was more love than greed.
Europe is covered with chain grocery stores with “self checkouts”, all the produce is sealed in plastic and barcoded. The fresh open markets are mostly in cities in upper class areas to draw tourists.
@@lechatleblanc i'm beginning to believe that there never was a 'revolutionary war', or if there was, the colonists did not win. i grew up in the '60's and '70's and i remember these department store cafeterias and their menus. i doubt there is a great deal of difference between america and europe. we all had different experiences too. it depends on where you grew up and when you were born. the united states is a very big country geographically.
Yes! Please do videos of county courthouses by state/region! It's fun to just go on Google maps and type in county courthouse. It's hilarious to compare our modern courthouses to the ones from 100-150 years ago.
Old courthouse is amazing if you stand at the main floor in the center above the dome it will project your voice almost like an echo chamber of sorts … we visited back in 2014 or so and explored almost to the top … very cool up there viewing interior of the dome layers and court rooms adjacent … layers of railings on each level where people could look down In public hearing matters to center bottom in dome … it was set up so everyone could hear what was talked about at ground level of house no matter where you were in main area high or low … the attendant taught us how to use are voice to project it up stating in exact middle … craziest phenomenon talking in the center of the room hard to explain honestly … thank you for you hard work Old World Explorer love your contribution to the community… cheers y’all wishing you well St. Louis is magical go visit be smart be safe there though
A compilation of structures across North America that are said to be built in just the 1890’s would be volumes of visual material to absorb in one ‘documentary’ or similar .. imagine trying to speed through a visually-stunning and impactful tour of the 1890’s alone (as its claimed) , and then try to make sense of the workforce necessary in every city across the continent all at the same time … the suggested and implied idea that we’re all really finally wrapping our heads around , the impossibility of thousands of such structures all being built at the same time city by city , block by block .. and our subconscious starts to understand that whole regions of skilled artisanal labor would need to be shipped in for each and every one of these , and thus it becomes clear that there are many many times more of these masterpieces than what would be possible to build in a century or far more, let alone a decade.
Well said. Jon Levi's book does something similar to this while focusing on San Fran...just dissects the narrative to the point of absurdity. When making my demolished books, it was amazing how many were built in the 1890s and torn down in the 1960s. Also there was supposed to be a financial depression in 1893. Not according to the construction industry...
The massive building was built with a whitish stone. All the original sculptures, reliefs, ribbons, etc... are built with it, then at a much later time some group ripped off the tower and put up the stupid black William Penn statue on top with other really dumb and out of place black figurines around base of dome, for all we know they could be plastic like the ones put up near top of terminal tower in cleveland during renovation 5 years ago bcuz as NAZA says " we lost the technology & it's a painful process to build it back"
i've been inside many times. it's where the st. louis blues used to play hockey. honestly, it was getting pretty run down. they either needed to invest a lot of money for upgrades or build a new place. it was well past it's prime.
I’m surprised you haven’t mentioned the schools here in St.Louis. I graduated from Roosevelt High School. Look that up and look up Cleveland High School & Beaumont High School. Also the Fox theater!
My town hall is a massive stone building supposedly finished in 1915. Yet the town has zero records of anything to do with it's construction. Only photos of it already completed.
Wow! The Union Station photo shows a street plate with diamond shaped 3 inch glass skylights for the underground level under the streetcars. Those are all paved over with asphalt now. They let an amazing amount of light in to illuminated those levels during the day. Those used to be everywhere, also on sidewalks, many varied patterns. Nice!
Union Station is such a fave building. Especially the grand hall inside. We grew up in STL so grateful for such incredible architecture. It's like culture and arts were our birthright. Even worker homes were amazing
It was a different culture that wished for its continuing prosperity and sense of pride to be passed down...well, it was squandered into modern consumerism
We have such similar views its nice to hear people say things I have thought of. Your videos are great so please keep going. I may start videos of my area. I have lots I can present once I get the hang of making videos. xx
Great video as always. Those breweries are suspect. I lived in Berlin and there are massive old breweries taking up several blocks in residential neighborhoods ( now converted into malls). Doesn’t make sense. I think they were water works, power plants and/or some other municipal function that got repurposed.
Thanks for putting that Louis Sullivan in there, the guy was a master! Later in his career he lost the big projects because he wouldn't change his style to match the current fad, so he got a bunch of jobs doing banks in small towns, they are called Sullivan's Jewel boxes amd they are spectacular! Little small towns with some of the most beautiful buildings you could imagine!
This video is remarkable. Thank you for producing it. Little by little knowledge is increasing in spite Pharaoh’s removal of the ‘Alexandria’ historic record. The internet seems a bit like Guttenberg’s printing press.
Time stamp 2: 56 , actually those bricks may be wooden blocks in composition similar looking like clay mortor style bricks on streets and buildings . The reason I say this is because I had worked at the GE locomotive plant in Erie, Pa. and the work bays floors all had wooden bricks fitted tightly and placed just like those street pictures. They had big steel cutting and shot blast machines mounted to this type of composition floor also your feet got less tired as I remember.
If you zoom in on them they're too bumpy and have little knobs on them and to me it's clearly not wood. There's no woodgrain. I'm guessing they're probably a concrete, maybe clay.
Also , regarding wood and electricity combination . Wood doesn't conduct electricity and used as a insulator. Therefore the interior could possibly be wood carvings in conjunction with marble pillars be used to neutralize electricity free energy devices without killing people ?
born in st. louis and lived there for 50 years. never noticed much of this detail. then i thought; who looks up to see this? honestly, if you are at street level and walking, you don't look up at ceilings and second floors of the exterior. wish i was still there. i will check this out next time i visit my kids.
I have lived in St louis for 53 years. I always thought these buildings were awesome. Even as a kid. City Hall is beautiful. If you have any questions feel free to ask. I also worked at Anheuser Busch St Louis most of my career.
@@oldworldexthere are many many caves and tunnels. That's why the breweries were built where they were. Look up the Lemp family, Lemp Brewery, Lemp Mansion. They're the best documented. I've been inside several. And others have mentioned that huge mounds on the West -St. Louis side of the river were removed over time as the city grew. Only one remains, not far from the opening paver picture here. It's locally called Sugar Loaf and the Osage Indigenous folks bought it from private owners a while back
I remember as a child stepping up from the metro into grand Central station and immediately didn’t understand how it was built by us people. So the way they taught us in school had formed my reality entirely and I knew it didn’t make sense, let alone when you see Manhattan after that!
I live just across the river from St Louis and visit Union Station at least once a year for a photography conference. I can share updated photos if you would like. I also remember it from my childhood, when it still had a shopping area attached to it. The station and hotel is just as beautiful as it was years ago.
1 thing lots of people forget about these times, is we didnt have TV to look at once home. Many of the trades people like myself did 7 year scholarship, not a 3 year apprenticeship. You worked far longer hours, especially in summer to do build work. In winter, many sites closed over winter, but they then worked on making windows, door's, stairs and such, so always had lots of work. 😊
I don't think we're forgetting that fact, we're saying despite the lack of technology, the build process doesn't make sense. There also seems to be a disconnect with the ones who did the actual work being passed down through time. We get to hear about the architect and the money men, but the skilled hands are forgotten. Surely someone had a great grandfather that worked on the civil courts building? Where is the tangible evidence?
Been working at masonry for at least 35years, called master mason by many and never in those years here at cleveland ohio has even 1 building been built that can compare to the masonry details presented in this video. Masonry, tilework, ornamental metals, stone carvings, building cornices, domes none of those details like these presented has ever been built here in my lifetime.
@@oldworldex it makes sense. the Tartaria side is the one that does not make sense. so goodluck fixing this issue and even understanding the status instead of being exactly backwards on it. surely someone can point to a Tartarian citizen or "evidence" of these other people (magical stone gnomes). oh the utter irony 😂
Wow, thanks Chris! This city is a great example exposing the narrative. The construction images are perplexing, and look more like a photo from a movie set, fake. The pic at 18:02, wtf is that pose? Ridiculous, the guys posture in front, looks to be kneeling, which would make his side of the column capital much lower than the standing figures to the left. And how would they place it? Kneeling dude cant move forward while stuck in a kneeling position 🤦♀️Imagine the hight they're at, the weight of that thing and they're on those rickety wood boards, that high up!!! We're dealing with souless liars, if they have the ability to deceive to benefit themselves, they Will! This picture is an example of that. Just look at it, "illusionist" in real life.
Curious to know if there is a specific significance with the ceiling inlay or coffer that has a flower detail in the centre at 6:41 - It somewhat resembles a poppy. These same details were included in many buildings of the Columbian Exposition. Just a bizarre detail that really stuck out watching this presentation. Very interesting presentation - Thank you
The 1st insane asylum @26:08 are now condos. I think the wings were demolished. The 2nd insane asylum is still a mental health facility--fhere is a crematorium across the street...ive wondered if the two were associated at one point in time
We grew up not far. It's on the highest point in St. Louis which gives "The Hill" Italian neighborhood nearby its name. In the 70s as pretty poor rough street kids we called it the "nut house" (apologies) now most people call it the State Hospital.
Definitely a connection - it wasn't uncommon to disappear the unwanted in that way, and the Soviet gulag system's twin was the psychiatric hospital system, mostly meant to psychologically break people.
Old World Exploration - I don't think 'we' built any brick roads or brick / stone buildings of any ornate character after '1850' or whenever these cities and towns were able to be cleaned up and re inhabited - we should consider any date given as false UNLESS there are a series of photographs to show otherwise since we do have photographs from 1860ish on-wards - although even those dates may be slushy as well
@@oldworldex Oh I know where you are - no offense - and thanx for the reply - you are a tour de force and guess what - YOU do not come up on my Old World Civilization feeds very much - which mean you are hitting hard in some way - so.... but yeah where I live we've got some really nice Apartments with lots of vaults and arched windows of brick and I would NEVER have thought before that they were of course built "just a hundred years ago" but now I'm really getting a much better sense of stages of development - it's all very interesting and very"alive" in spite of all these buildings being so seemingly blank of life - but they aren't - they are alive and telling YOU and us their stories - they finally have a voice after all these long long years they're like the Tree's in H&R Puff N Stuff
I think u Would find that some of the inconsistencies in the brickwork is because it is brick that is mortared over for a. Smoother finish much like stucco. And in some of the buildings where it is in nicer conditions is because it’s probably been patched and painted
min 2.43. That is NOT how you lay brick stone. Thank you so much for your contribution in shining light on the things of the past, when buildings where perfect combination of art, strength and usability, build in ways we in many cases can´t even accomplish with tools and knowledge we have today. So much old wisdom and knowledge has been censored out of education system and common recognition. Building wise, Energy, Transport, Communications, Sound alchemy for healing, (Cathedrals, Bells and pipe organ.) Medically wise, as before 1850 there were 3 types of Medicine taught in 7500 schools and institutions around the world. In 1847 Rockefeller and Carnegie founded a fund to support students of medicine and selected institutions to teach. In 1900, there was ONE type of medicine taught in 2500 schools... that was Western Medicine. The other two, were Holistic and Natural Medicine... Both were more than 1000yrs old, while the Western was at that time only about 100yrs old. But again, Thank you so much!
The Iron framed Tower is still standing next to a The Firehouse at the Second Asylum , My Moms Mom was in that Asylum and My Dads Dad worked in the Firehouse the 35's for 35 Years , Someone jumped from that Iron tower and made the News . The Asylum still stands , I wish they would take it down . Was interesting to see it in the Past as the Landscape has changed a bit :\ QC
Symbol of Eagle (on Brew House) represents Roman Empire. Letter A - Aquila. I checked with SunCalc the Pyramid w/Sphinx on the top of the Civil Court House. It is oriented right towards the East into the Arch on Sunrise March 1st, ancient New Year. This type of sunrise is what was called the All-Seeing Eye.
My hometown, Ottumwa Iowa, has some interesting builds as well.. or had. Some still stand. Many are gone. A few with the underground entry. Many churches. It never was a huge city, but an interesting history in the area
I asked Lucius this as well - what motivations to pull the Domes ? I'm wondering if when the first people to come onto these cities and towns came in - maybe the Dome's were clad in copper or other "precious" metals and the Domes were scavenged aggressively enough to compromise the ability to keep out water and over time (decades) they simply leaked and had to be removed (or recovered with what would be now overly expensive copper) - I know you think it is more to strip away the 'gravitas' of the buildings but I'm wondering if the answer is more primitive and commercial - like thieves destroying a house just to sell the copper water pipe type of thing
That's certainly possible. I've also had it suggested that the stripping of precious metals is what short circuited the grid. All options are on the table.
Hi. Primarily, thank you for another wonderful video. I was wondering if you could elaborate on what you're saying about WW2, and how it altered our nations consciousness to a lowered state. I hadn't even begun to think of something from only 50+ years ago being at the root of all this before you said it. Truly, a great point, Please, tell me if I'm wrong but here's how I see it. I mean we had WW1, trench warfare, awful, awful shit (apparently). Then directly after that we had WW2. (Ironically, during this period in St.Louis, our Nation was 10 years out of WW1, and two years from a Great Depression yet had the time, effort, and apparently infinite funds to build these structures --sidepoint-- .) So the morale as a nation shifted because the collective attitude held after such atrocities, thus limiting time for such creativity as we once had, in a sense? I find this comment very interesting because I think you really may be on to something. My father, quite literally (he's 82), had an understanding of things that to me seem like a literal impossibility in terms of anything having to made or fixed by one's own hands. I grew up and watched him build our basement by himself over almost 8 years to save money. His workbench, is actually the same workbench that his father built around 1912, and it contains tools that I honestly don't think 99% of people could even identify. Oh, and the tools were built to last, and the quality is so beyond what is sold today it's astonishing. But I think about what has been lost in even that short time frame and it really, really is astonishing. Anyway, my father is the last of a generation that besides ww2, that produced real, quality men. He was also drafted into Vietnam (sigh now I have to talk about Laos), so we have another war, and the demoralization continues and erodes even more. Lastly, did you know that directly before Vietnam (and during), Laos was bombed more than any other country in history? They dropped more bombs on Laos than in the entirety of WW2. Would you believe that Laos housed some of the most prestigious buildings in the world? Another coincidence perhaps? www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/122ryn0/270_million_bombs_dropped_on_laos_by_the_us/?rdt=38655 Anyway, thanks again.
Expanding on WW2...I think we were shellshocked. Then immediately following the UN lays out a global framework...the world is literally divided and cut off from each other. The USSR and China experience democide and the aggressive extermination of their culture. Other countries follow. The western world is put under a spell of entertainment and misinformation. We are a species with amnesia forced to trust the untrustworthy to tell us the truth about our past. I wonder if the bombing of Laos and Cambodia was an intergral part of their erasing if the past. I'd wager most of the jungle in that region is overgrown structures from a previous civilization.
It was the entire purpose of the invasion. MACV units were in Laos prior to the official start of Vietnam, almost two years prior I think? Yes, the entire purpose was to destroy all the amazing buildings which is also the reason they needed to drop more bombs than during all of ww2. I've been told this by very reliable sources.
Union Station. Circa 1982-84; within, the hotel located near the high tower portion was 'flee bag' accommodations. The entry payment desk was in a grand space. As an inner city Stl storefront preacher, I would take homeless people there for $10 a night. In retrospect, I suppose city officials enabled the hotel use as a temporary means, to in part, address the homeless issue just prior to developing the Union Station shopping complex.
My friend, have you looked into La Sagrada Familia in Barcelona? 👀 It's out of this world. Looks like it descended from heaven. Be sure to look inside and outside! I can't even explain it, you'll have to see for yourself.
The inside of a lot of these places like the hotel jefferson and that grill and coffee shop look an awful lot like the interior of the titanic (actually the olympic, IYKYK) don't they?
At 31:28 you can tell that street level pink stone is "not" original. At cleveland, 98% of buildings at street level have this feature of bland rectangular 4-6" granite veneer stones, with modern storefront doors/windows then immediately next floor above is the ornate & elegantly laid original stone that gets even more extravagant as eyes look higher
You can tell they veneered over original stone by how far out it juts. This was done on many mexican temples where the laid up a Mishmash of brick over original structure
That first pic was Kansas street, then renamed Compton in Dutchtown South City being paved. That had been a 4 block section of barely developed southern edge of the city that became Marquette Park. The neighborhood was called string town then, it filled rapidly in the mid 19th C. During and after the Civil War with German migrants. Thats the neighborhood I grew up in, as did my parents, my grandpa, and his uncle going back to the time of this picture.
One of these days a.i. is going to take over our photos and we will end up with b.s. photos changed to make some of these older buildings during construction. We already have a.i. doing videos of people and getting thier voices to sound pretty accurate and people already alter photos just imagine when a.i. starts changing history one photo at a time
If anyone's not familiar to the dream Daniel interpreted for the king of Babylon . Speaks of the same stuff we were talking about the last kingdom being mixed iron and clay. World old blent in to the new world hence iron mixed with clay . Advise everyone to read their Bibles because all the answers to every question we ever had are in that book Also advise everyone to read out of a very first edition of compiled old editions commonly called the 1611 Originally is wasn't named a King James version simply authorized version . And words have special definitions Authorized meaning having official permission or approval . Not every Bible is authorized. Daniel 2
@@tomislav4 well if you actually opened up a 1611 for yourself you would read write in the very first page and it said it was the very first edition that was a compilation of all subsequent editions. A complete text . Which is why shortly after 1611 you have the illuminati forming in 1776 the. The dismantling and discrediting of the Bible in 1885 now wlthe worlds fulla bone necks like yourself that get bent outta shape over someone else's faith. I've seen it many many times even in person while being spit in my face being threatened to be murdered and my mother raped. Right here in my home town of Cincinnati by my own peers. All over a name sake. No matter how wise you try to make your words appear to sound if you hate Jesus that much just simply say it.
@@tomislav4 and theres exactly 80 books in the authorized version . It wasn't even called a King James. So that would mean 14 books ( Apocrypha )where taken away the dedication and the memo the translators left for the readers to answer the who wat when where and why . Are all removed. And then they changed words around which changes the meaning . ECT ECT . I'll pray for you . If you look up a picture of the copy they found under the church floor in Cambridge . It doesn't even say King James on it . So nice try but better jabronis than you tried pal
@@tomislav4 it wasn't originally written in " English "even back then it's called archaic language . Because the book is spiritual there's a reason why certain people can't make sense of wat it says.
So insane, So much of the stone of the St Louis building was limestone from the Mississippi River Bank. * Very much agree with the sentiment that our society has declined after WW2.
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I moved to cwe and it’s driving me mad all the beautiful architecture lost let go. I get depressed feeling sad that’s we don’t know and mad because I assume someone else knows but keeps it a secret as almost always these beautiful beautiful old buildings are owned by being used by Catholic Churches/churches, government buildings and private clubs like Shriners masons… just have to let it go I don’t know what to do how to help. I can’t drive myself mad having a gut feeling we don’t know the truth and why did we loose or are being hidden from that beautiful aritechural society
Labour was a lot cheaper back then. They didn’t have electricity and plumbing and as easier no wcb and permits and unions to pay for. A lot of that fancy detail was probably premade and just mortared in place
i'm on the Tartaria side for fun and we're the underdogs here. can we not grasp that we're the ones with no proof? speculation and ideas are not proof of anything? LMAO 😂
I always find it strange they claim population was near nothing in 1850… Now New France existed almost 300 years to that point and St. Louis is clearly of a very French influence So they really want us to forget there was 300 years within what we call recorded history that also seems like it didn’t happen at all.. which is it? Plus lots of menus throughout usa were all in French till late 1800s So to me the simplest explanation is that the French were far more established that the USA version of post Ww 2 history.. Hell even just a few years ago they were debating changing the history taught to kids today Then there’s the moors.. Irish.. so many that eventually got decimated in war who all seem like they’ve been here far longer than the whole manifest destiny bs
The fact that there were minimal people at that time and they produced these magnificent buildings just don’t add up. I’ve been to St Louis twice but unfortunately I did not have the eyes that I do now. Thank you OWN for this presentation on St Louis.
The “Angels” and Saints built St. Louis maybe?
Super work as usual brother.
cheers...hope my voice wasn't too whiney, got a little feedback that says it was...lol
Never a mention of the interior artisans. They should be famous. Thanks OW for another great video.
I lived in St Louis back in 1987-88 and altho I was amongst these buildings, I had not yet the eyes to see and did not marvel at them like I do today.
That basilica is absolutely incredible and needs to be seen to believe.
On Union Station..if you pause the video at 33:34 and look for a downspout. When you find one take a look at the guides for the downspout. They are made out of the same rock as the whole building. They are curved and nestled into the building perfectly. This building will give you the chills when you get close to it.
The old world buildings put off good vibes. Our asswipe overlords do not like.
I see what you mean. Hard to wrap your head around how some of this stuff was put together. Thanks for watching with a keen eye..
@@oldworldex my pleasure..thanks for doing these videos. BTW..I live in St Louis and have poked around these buildings for a few years now. I actually did the Union Station over the summer. Inside and out. Its got everything.
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@@oldworldex will do. I cant quite figure it out yet, but there is something massively important about St Louis. What is the arch really for?
Seems the arch was built during 1960's.
Cahokia pyramids are really part of St. Loius and about 200' tall. Attempted excavations just scratching surface 2' down revealed stonework but were told to put back mudflood venner
Keep up the great work.
Thanks, will do!
I love these videos of yours. I am fascinated by that time period of 1870 to 1930 in the USA. There is definitely a sense of a sharp break that delineates pre-1945 and post-1945 America.
Thank you OWE for another great video. I'm now becoming increasingly astounded that people are still prepared to accept the horse and cart , shovel and muscle, narrative of construction in this time period . I realised cognitive dissonance was real , but I genuinely thought that eventually people would have to accept they have been victims of massive deceit . Please keep up the fantastic work .
These massive buildings that they say were put up in a year or two with horses and buggies? Meanwhile the 4 story apartment going up near me has now been under construction for over 2 years and is maybe 1/3 complete? Doesn't make a lot of sense.
Looking forward to your court houses video in the future!!!! 🙌
Wow and thank you.
They are giving it away -
So if the legal system was switched in 1860 - perhaps that was the year it all
Started.
I believe I saw 1867-68. Interesting because 1867 is the year Canada confederates into a country as well. Couple that with the end of the American civil war and we might have something here..@@Kat.Evangeline14
@@oldworldex Good point. That was the time when the "new" World took over. On March 30, 1867 Alaska was sold by Russia to the United States. Apparently, money never made it to Russia, and there was no copy of the Agreement in Russian.
If you look closely, those vertical (and horizontal) 'strings' from the cranes at 17:30 are not strings at all but the edges of the cut outs they pasted on to the photo of the structure.Doesn't make much sense to have cables that close to building anyway, but i guess it was good enough back in the day to convince people.
And another banger my friend. I’m pickin up what you’re puttin down.
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Judging by the architecture, there were two main groups of people who came to America in the mid to late 1800’s…genius, hard working artisans and insane lunatics. The number of artisans and crazy people to substantiate this level of construction is astounding! 😉
They must have been such sophisticated and highly cultured people. A hight watermark for humanity.
I’m so excited that I just found your channel!!!! And LOL @cold hand. Love it. ❤
Welcome!!
Thank you Chris. I remember seeing many old world menus in the restaurants inside these structures and the food served was also amazing. Graduating from WSU in Detroit at the end of the 1970's I still remember the excellent and healthy food choices in the now long gone department store cafeterias. We even had mom and pop meat markets where you could see the quality of the meats and seafood unlike today. May seem like a tangent but I think it all ties together with a society where there was more love than greed.
its still like this in europe... america got the greed and anger bug .. america is a shi* show now lol
Europe is no different to be honest.
Europe is covered with chain grocery stores with “self checkouts”, all the produce is sealed in plastic and barcoded. The fresh open markets are mostly in cities in upper class areas to draw tourists.
@@lechatleblanc i'm beginning to believe that there never was a 'revolutionary war', or if there was, the colonists did not win. i grew up in the '60's and '70's and i remember these department store cafeterias and their menus. i doubt there is a great deal of difference between america and europe. we all had different experiences too. it depends on where you grew up and when you were born. the united states is a very big country geographically.
Super photos, thank you.
Always intrigued to watch your collections of photos. I will be happy buying a copy of your book
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Thank you very much!
Yes! Please do videos of county courthouses by state/region! It's fun to just go on Google maps and type in county courthouse. It's hilarious to compare our modern courthouses to the ones from 100-150 years ago.
Old courthouse is amazing if you stand at the main floor in the center above the dome it will project your voice almost like an echo chamber of sorts … we visited back in 2014 or so and explored almost to the top … very cool up there viewing interior of the dome layers and court rooms adjacent … layers of railings on each level where people could look down In public hearing matters to center bottom in dome … it was set up so everyone could hear what was talked about at ground level of house no matter where you were in main area high or low … the attendant taught us how to use are voice to project it up stating in exact middle … craziest phenomenon talking in the center of the room hard to explain honestly … thank you for you hard work Old World Explorer love your contribution to the community… cheers y’all wishing you well St. Louis is magical go visit be smart be safe there though
A compilation of structures across North America that are said to be built in just the 1890’s would be volumes of visual material to absorb in one ‘documentary’ or similar .. imagine trying to speed through a visually-stunning and impactful tour of the 1890’s alone (as its claimed) , and then try to make sense of the workforce necessary in every city across the continent all at the same time … the suggested and implied idea that we’re all really finally wrapping our heads around , the impossibility of thousands of such structures all being built at the same time city by city , block by block .. and our subconscious starts to understand that whole regions of skilled artisanal labor would need to be shipped in for each and every one of these , and thus it becomes clear that there are many many times more of these masterpieces than what would be possible to build in a century or far more, let alone a decade.
Even the smallest towns have these massive "court houses". Where did all the skilled stone masons come from at the same time ?
Well said. Jon Levi's book does something similar to this while focusing on San Fran...just dissects the narrative to the point of absurdity. When making my demolished books, it was amazing how many were built in the 1890s and torn down in the 1960s. Also there was supposed to be a financial depression in 1893. Not according to the construction industry...
Recently saw the Philadelphia city hall, most massive masonry object ever seen by me and they wanted to tear it down innately 1950's
The massive building was built with a whitish stone. All the original sculptures, reliefs, ribbons, etc... are built with it, then at a much later time some group ripped off the tower and put up the stupid black William Penn statue on top with other really dumb and out of place black figurines around base of dome, for all we know they could be plastic like the ones put up near top of terminal tower in cleveland during renovation 5 years ago bcuz as NAZA says " we lost the technology & it's a painful process to build it back"
The stadium built at the start of the Depression in 1929 had to be destroyed 70 years later because of - Progress.
masonic lie
i've been inside many times. it's where the st. louis blues used to play hockey. honestly, it was getting pretty run down. they either needed to invest a lot of money for upgrades or build a new place. it was well past it's prime.
@@sixmax11 Sadly, the mundane art of proper maintenance is rather lost
I’m surprised you haven’t mentioned the schools here in St.Louis. I graduated from Roosevelt High School. Look that up and look up Cleveland High School & Beaumont High School. Also the Fox theater!
Fanning Middle too
Where are the Architect's drawings for all the buildings kept?
My town hall is a massive stone building supposedly finished in 1915. Yet the town has zero records of anything to do with it's construction. Only photos of it already completed.
Nice work
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Wow!
The Union Station photo shows a street plate with diamond shaped 3 inch glass skylights for the underground level under the streetcars. Those are all paved over with asphalt now. They let an amazing amount of light in to illuminated those levels during the day. Those used to be everywhere, also on sidewalks, many varied patterns.
Nice!
Love your research😊Thank you 🤗
Love you being here!
Hey Chris, great presentation as usual
‘Tekton ‘~ Greek for master builder
‘Architectonics’~ the study of structure
Hey Deb! Thanks for poppin in..
I genuinely appreciate your efforts and information conveyance! Thank you. My only grievance is they background music detracts from the information.
@17:52 one of the few, very few column construction photos I have seen, and they present that! ;) Great exploration!
The 1904 exposition was exposing the buildings that were under all those mounds. There are no grandparents who remember “building” these..yep
Love your videos! They are put together so well. Looking forward to your book.
thank you!
Union Station is such a fave building. Especially the grand hall inside. We grew up in STL so grateful for such incredible architecture. It's like culture and arts were our birthright. Even worker homes were amazing
It was a different culture that wished for its continuing prosperity and sense of pride to be passed down...well, it was squandered into modern consumerism
Great presentation!
We have such similar views its nice to hear people say things I have thought of.
Your videos are great so please keep going.
I may start videos of my area. I have lots I can present once I get the hang of making videos. xx
Great video as always. Those breweries are suspect. I lived in Berlin and there are massive old breweries taking up several blocks in residential neighborhoods ( now converted into malls). Doesn’t make sense. I think they were water works, power plants and/or some other municipal function that got repurposed.
Thanks for putting that Louis Sullivan in there, the guy was a master! Later in his career he lost the big projects because he wouldn't change his style to match the current fad, so he got a bunch of jobs doing banks in small towns, they are called Sullivan's Jewel boxes amd they are spectacular! Little small towns with some of the most beautiful buildings you could imagine!
Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past, control the future. George Orwell. 1984
in a nutshell..
I visited some of these buildings about 4 months ago, and have some interesting pictures of them if you are interested 😊
sure send em..
This video is remarkable. Thank you for producing it. Little by little knowledge is increasing in spite Pharaoh’s removal of the ‘Alexandria’ historic record. The internet seems a bit like Guttenberg’s printing press.
Phenomenal research Chris , thanks a lot for sharing 🙏🧱
Time stamp 2: 56 , actually those bricks may be wooden blocks in composition similar looking like clay mortor style bricks on streets and buildings . The reason I say this is because I had worked at the GE locomotive plant in Erie, Pa. and the work bays floors all had wooden bricks fitted tightly and placed just like those street pictures. They had big steel cutting and shot blast machines mounted to this type of composition floor also your feet got less tired as I remember.
If you zoom in on them they're too bumpy and have little knobs on them and to me it's clearly not wood. There's no woodgrain. I'm guessing they're probably a concrete, maybe clay.
Saw same thing done in the interior over massive white oak joists but that outside puc is something entirely different
Superb video brother.
Thanks for sharing your quest for truth.
Peace love and blessings!
Also , regarding wood and electricity combination . Wood doesn't conduct electricity and used as a insulator. Therefore the interior could possibly be wood carvings in conjunction with marble pillars be used to neutralize electricity free energy devices without killing people ?
born in st. louis and lived there for 50 years. never noticed much of this detail. then i thought; who looks up to see this? honestly, if you are at street level and walking, you don't look up at ceilings and second floors of the exterior. wish i was still there. i will check this out next time i visit my kids.
Great vid
Glad I found this channel
welcome!
I have lived in St louis for 53 years. I always thought these buildings were awesome. Even as a kid. City Hall is beautiful. If you have any questions feel free to ask. I also worked at Anheuser Busch St Louis most of my career.
What do you know about tunnels?
@@oldworldexthere are many many caves and tunnels. That's why the breweries were built where they were. Look up the Lemp family, Lemp Brewery, Lemp Mansion. They're the best documented. I've been inside several. And others have mentioned that huge mounds on the West -St. Louis side of the river were removed over time as the city grew. Only one remains, not far from the opening paver picture here. It's locally called Sugar Loaf and the Osage Indigenous folks bought it from private owners a while back
I remember as a child stepping up from the metro into grand Central station and immediately didn’t understand how it was built by us people. So the way they taught us in school had formed my reality entirely and I knew it didn’t make sense, let alone when you see Manhattan after that!
I live about 25 miles from downtown StL in the Illinois side of the Mississippi River.
Thank you
Chris thankyou..can't wait for your 2nd book to arrive 👍🏼🫲🏻
thank you!
Can't wait for parts 2 and 3
On a recent trip to StL I had seen some colors over a few buildings with my bi nocs. I think they are still harvesting there.
I live just across the river from St Louis and visit Union Station at least once a year for a photography conference. I can share updated photos if you would like. I also remember it from my childhood, when it still had a shopping area attached to it. The station and hotel is just as beautiful as it was years ago.
Live right across from it rn... Union Station is a phenomenal Tartarian cathedral of craftsmanship
1 thing lots of people forget about these times, is we didnt have TV to look at once home. Many of the trades people like myself did 7 year scholarship, not a 3 year apprenticeship. You worked far longer hours, especially in summer to do build work. In winter, many sites closed over winter, but they then worked on making windows, door's, stairs and such, so always had lots of work. 😊
I don't think we're forgetting that fact, we're saying despite the lack of technology, the build process doesn't make sense. There also seems to be a disconnect with the ones who did the actual work being passed down through time. We get to hear about the architect and the money men, but the skilled hands are forgotten. Surely someone had a great grandfather that worked on the civil courts building? Where is the tangible evidence?
Been working at masonry for at least 35years, called master mason by many and never in those years here at cleveland ohio has even 1 building been built that can compare to the masonry details presented in this video.
Masonry, tilework, ornamental metals, stone carvings, building cornices, domes none of those details like these presented has ever been built here in my lifetime.
@@oldworldex it makes sense. the Tartaria side is the one that does not make sense. so goodluck fixing this issue and even understanding the status instead of being exactly backwards on it. surely someone can point to a Tartarian citizen or "evidence" of these other people (magical stone gnomes). oh the utter irony 😂
Wow, thanks Chris! This city is a great example exposing the narrative. The construction images are perplexing, and look more like a photo from a movie set, fake. The pic at 18:02, wtf is that pose? Ridiculous, the guys posture in front, looks to be kneeling, which would make his side of the column capital much lower than the standing figures to the left. And how would they place it? Kneeling dude cant move forward while stuck in a kneeling position 🤦♀️Imagine the hight they're at, the weight of that thing and they're on those rickety wood boards, that high up!!! We're dealing with souless liars, if they have the ability to deceive to benefit themselves, they Will! This picture is an example of that. Just look at it, "illusionist" in real life.
And if you zoom in on the fluting on the column it looks like a digital painting.
@freya6766 imagine the angle and height the camera man would have had to been at.
Curious to know if there is a specific significance with the ceiling inlay or coffer that has a flower detail in the centre at 6:41 - It somewhat resembles a poppy. These same details were included in many buildings of the Columbian Exposition. Just a bizarre detail that really stuck out watching this presentation. Very interesting presentation - Thank you
It's very common on these old world structures. Undersides of domes and arches. Not sure of the significance...energetics?
The 1st insane asylum @26:08 are now condos. I think the wings were demolished. The 2nd insane asylum is still a mental health facility--fhere is a crematorium across the street...ive wondered if the two were associated at one point in time
We grew up not far. It's on the highest point in St. Louis which gives "The Hill" Italian neighborhood nearby its name. In the 70s as pretty poor rough street kids we called it the "nut house" (apologies) now most people call it the State Hospital.
Definitely a connection - it wasn't uncommon to disappear the unwanted in that way, and the Soviet gulag system's twin was the psychiatric hospital system, mostly meant to psychologically break people.
From an observant St Louisan-spot on
I am awaiting the arrival of your book.
thank you!
Old World Exploration - I don't think 'we' built any brick roads or brick / stone buildings of any ornate character after '1850' or whenever these cities and towns were able to be cleaned up and re inhabited - we should consider any date given as false UNLESS there are a series of photographs to show otherwise since we do have photographs from 1860ish on-wards - although even those dates may be slushy as well
I can get behind that. I was definitely playing devils advocate a bit in this video.
@@oldworldex Oh I know where you are - no offense - and thanx for the reply - you are a tour de force and guess what - YOU do not come up on my Old World Civilization feeds very much - which mean you are hitting hard in some way - so.... but yeah where I live we've got some really nice Apartments with lots of vaults and arched windows of brick and I would NEVER have thought before that they were of course built "just a hundred years ago" but now I'm really getting a much better sense of stages of development - it's all very interesting and very"alive" in spite of all these buildings being so seemingly blank of life - but they aren't - they are alive and telling YOU and us their stories - they finally have a voice after all these long long years they're like the Tree's in H&R Puff N Stuff
I think u Would find that some of the inconsistencies in the brickwork is because it is brick that is mortared over for a. Smoother finish much like stucco. And in some of the buildings where it is in nicer conditions is because it’s probably been patched and painted
min 2.43. That is NOT how you lay brick stone.
Thank you so much for your contribution in shining light on the things of the past, when buildings where perfect combination of art, strength and usability, build in ways we in many cases can´t even accomplish with tools and knowledge we have today. So much old wisdom and knowledge has been censored out of education system and common recognition.
Building wise, Energy, Transport, Communications, Sound alchemy for healing, (Cathedrals, Bells and pipe organ.) Medically wise, as before 1850 there were 3 types of Medicine taught in 7500 schools and institutions around the world. In 1847 Rockefeller and Carnegie founded a fund to support students of medicine and selected institutions to teach.
In 1900, there was ONE type of medicine taught in 2500 schools... that was Western Medicine.
The other two, were Holistic and Natural Medicine... Both were more than 1000yrs old, while the Western was at that time only about 100yrs old.
But again, Thank you so much!
The Iron framed Tower is still standing next to a The Firehouse at the Second Asylum , My Moms Mom was in that Asylum and My Dads Dad worked in the Firehouse the 35's for 35 Years , Someone jumped from that Iron tower and made the News . The Asylum still stands , I wish they would take it down . Was interesting to see it in the Past as the Landscape has changed a bit :\ QC
very interesting program. in many of the photos you don't see people. it would be nice to have the address.
Symbol of Eagle (on Brew House) represents Roman Empire. Letter A - Aquila. I checked with SunCalc the Pyramid w/Sphinx on the top of the Civil Court House. It is oriented right towards the East into the Arch on Sunrise March 1st, ancient New Year. This type of sunrise is what was called the All-Seeing Eye.
Rome still runs the world
@@tomislav4 Absolutely right.
My hometown, Ottumwa Iowa, has some interesting builds as well.. or had. Some still stand. Many are gone. A few with the underground entry. Many churches. It never was a huge city, but an interesting history in the area
I'm checking it out now. These small Midwestern towns never seem to disappoint.
With his cold hand 😅
If playing video games taught me anything, the giant round symbol above cathedral doors tells you what to find inside. So something vibrational.
I asked Lucius this as well - what motivations to pull the Domes ? I'm wondering if when the first people to come onto these cities and towns came in - maybe the Dome's were clad in copper or other "precious" metals and the Domes were scavenged aggressively enough to compromise the ability to keep out water and over time (decades) they simply leaked and had to be removed (or recovered with what would be now overly expensive copper) - I know you think it is more to strip away the 'gravitas' of the buildings but I'm wondering if the answer is more primitive and commercial - like thieves destroying a house just to sell the copper water pipe type of thing
That's certainly possible. I've also had it suggested that the stripping of precious metals is what short circuited the grid. All options are on the table.
Maybe they are a testament to the firmament above our heads that they hate
Hi. Primarily, thank you for another wonderful video. I was wondering if you could elaborate on what you're saying about WW2, and how it altered our nations consciousness to a lowered state. I hadn't even begun to think of something from only 50+ years ago being at the root of all this before you said it. Truly, a great point, Please, tell me if I'm wrong but here's how I see it. I mean we had WW1, trench warfare, awful, awful shit (apparently). Then directly after that we had WW2. (Ironically, during this period in St.Louis, our Nation was 10 years out of WW1, and two years from a Great Depression yet had the time, effort, and apparently infinite funds to build these structures --sidepoint-- .) So the morale as a nation shifted because the collective attitude held after such atrocities, thus limiting time for such creativity as we once had, in a sense? I find this comment very interesting because I think you really may be on to something. My father, quite literally (he's 82), had an understanding of things that to me seem like a literal impossibility in terms of anything having to made or fixed by one's own hands. I grew up and watched him build our basement by himself over almost 8 years to save money. His workbench, is actually the same workbench that his father built around 1912, and it contains tools that I honestly don't think 99% of people could even identify. Oh, and the tools were built to last, and the quality is so beyond what is sold today it's astonishing. But I think about what has been lost in even that short time frame and it really, really is astonishing. Anyway, my father is the last of a generation that besides ww2, that produced real, quality men. He was also drafted into Vietnam (sigh now I have to talk about Laos), so we have another war, and the demoralization continues and erodes even more. Lastly, did you know that directly before Vietnam (and during), Laos was bombed more than any other country in history? They dropped more bombs on Laos than in the entirety of WW2. Would you believe that Laos housed some of the most prestigious buildings in the world? Another coincidence perhaps? www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/122ryn0/270_million_bombs_dropped_on_laos_by_the_us/?rdt=38655
Anyway, thanks again.
Expanding on WW2...I think we were shellshocked. Then immediately following the UN lays out a global framework...the world is literally divided and cut off from each other. The USSR and China experience democide and the aggressive extermination of their culture. Other countries follow. The western world is put under a spell of entertainment and misinformation. We are a species with amnesia forced to trust the untrustworthy to tell us the truth about our past. I wonder if the bombing of Laos and Cambodia was an intergral part of their erasing if the past. I'd wager most of the jungle in that region is overgrown structures from a previous civilization.
It was the entire purpose of the invasion. MACV units were in Laos prior to the official start of Vietnam, almost two years prior I think? Yes, the entire purpose was to destroy all the amazing buildings which is also the reason they needed to drop more bombs than during all of ww2. I've been told this by very reliable sources.
Union Station. Circa 1982-84; within, the hotel located near the high tower portion was 'flee bag' accommodations. The entry payment desk was in a grand space. As an inner city Stl storefront preacher, I would take homeless people there for $10 a night. In retrospect, I suppose city officials enabled the hotel use as a temporary means, to in part, address the homeless issue just prior to developing the Union Station shopping complex.
My friend, have you looked into La Sagrada Familia in Barcelona? 👀 It's out of this world. Looks like it descended from heaven. Be sure to look inside and outside! I can't even explain it, you'll have to see for yourself.
Holy moley!!
La Sagrada is a demonic masonic temple started by a mason. Symbol of the Old World destruction.
Most of that was built fairly recently
@2:48 because one must wear a bow-tie while paving (or unpaving) a street
The stadium in the beginning definitely looked new if you look at the landscape
How so?
The inside of a lot of these places like the hotel jefferson and that grill and coffee shop look an awful lot like the interior of the titanic (actually the olympic, IYKYK) don't they?
27:53! My last name is MacLean lol
At 31:28 you can tell that street level pink stone is "not" original.
At cleveland, 98% of buildings at street level have this feature of bland rectangular 4-6" granite veneer stones, with modern storefront doors/windows then immediately next floor above is the ornate & elegantly laid original stone that gets even more extravagant as eyes look higher
You can tell they veneered over original stone by how far out it juts. This was done on many mexican temples where the laid up a Mishmash of brick over original structure
My great grandfather was a Carpenter in St Louis. He was the smartest most talented man i ever met. He told me that technology made us lazy.
That first pic was Kansas street, then renamed Compton in Dutchtown South City being paved. That had been a 4 block section of barely developed southern edge of the city that became Marquette Park. The neighborhood was called string town then, it filled rapidly in the mid 19th C. During and after the Civil War with German migrants. Thats the neighborhood I grew up in, as did my parents, my grandpa, and his uncle going back to the time of this picture.
The spires of St. Louis City Hall (designed to look like the Paris City Hall) were blown off in a tornado.
Good observation about St. Louis and courts. St. Louis was the circuit Court for nearly everything west of the Mississippi.
One of these days a.i. is going to take over our photos and we will end up with b.s. photos changed to make some of these older buildings during construction. We already have a.i. doing videos of people and getting thier voices to sound pretty accurate and people already alter photos just imagine when a.i. starts changing history one photo at a time
If anyone's not familiar to the dream Daniel interpreted for the king of Babylon . Speaks of the same stuff we were talking about the last kingdom being mixed iron and clay.
World old blent in to the new world hence iron mixed with clay .
Advise everyone to read their Bibles because all the answers to every question we ever had are in that book
Also advise everyone to read out of a very first edition of compiled old editions commonly called the 1611
Originally is wasn't named a King James version simply authorized version .
And words have special definitions
Authorized meaning having official permission or approval .
Not every Bible is authorized.
Daniel 2
Which KJV? American Version where there are now only 66 books remaining, 17 less than 100years ago?
Or 1611 kjv that is almost word for word copied from William Tyndale who wrote 1st English translation about 150 before.
@@tomislav4 well if you actually opened up a 1611 for yourself you would read write in the very first page and it said it was the very first edition that was a compilation of all subsequent editions.
A complete text .
Which is why shortly after 1611 you have the illuminati forming in 1776 the. The dismantling and discrediting of the Bible in 1885 now wlthe worlds fulla bone necks like yourself that get bent outta shape over someone else's faith. I've seen it many many times even in person while being spit in my face being threatened to be murdered and my mother raped. Right here in my home town of Cincinnati by my own peers. All over a name sake.
No matter how wise you try to make your words appear to sound if you hate Jesus that much just simply say it.
@@tomislav4 and theres exactly 80 books in the authorized version . It wasn't even called a King James.
So that would mean 14 books ( Apocrypha )where taken away the dedication and the memo the translators left for the readers to answer the who wat when where and why .
Are all removed. And then they changed words around which changes the meaning . ECT ECT .
I'll pray for you .
If you look up a picture of the copy they found under the church floor in Cambridge . It doesn't even say King James on it .
So nice try but better jabronis than you tried pal
@@tomislav4 it wasn't originally written in " English "even back then it's called archaic language .
Because the book is spiritual there's a reason why certain people can't make sense of wat it says.
So insane,
So much of the stone of the St Louis building was limestone from the Mississippi River Bank.
* Very much agree with the sentiment that our society has declined after WW2.
every building is connected to the tunnels
corner stones are dated? and all of those massive structures have them.
so there's that.
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I moved to cwe and it’s driving me mad all the beautiful architecture lost let go. I get depressed feeling sad that’s we don’t know and mad because I assume someone else knows but keeps it a secret as almost always these beautiful beautiful old buildings are owned by being used by Catholic Churches/churches, government buildings and private clubs like Shriners masons… just have to let it go I don’t know what to do how to help. I can’t drive myself mad having a gut feeling we don’t know the truth and why did we loose or are being hidden from that beautiful aritechural society
Cain was a city builder.🤔😳
You should start a go fund me to buy and save the old world buildings. No matter how when they were built too nice to just destroy.
Labour was a lot cheaper back then. They didn’t have electricity and plumbing and as easier no wcb and permits and unions to pay for. A lot of that fancy detail was probably premade and just mortared in place
not sure what word has issues around it "Mason" or "Temple"
Fractional reserve banking lol
Built for air travel life and a lot of people
i'm on the Tartaria side for fun and we're the underdogs here.
can we not grasp that we're the ones with no proof?
speculation and ideas are not proof of anything? LMAO 😂
I always find it strange they claim population was near nothing in 1850…
Now New France existed almost 300 years to that point and St. Louis is clearly of a very French influence
So they really want us to forget there was 300 years within what we call recorded history that also seems like it didn’t happen at all.. which is it?
Plus lots of menus throughout usa were all in French till late 1800s
So to me the simplest explanation is that the French were far more established that the USA version of post Ww 2 history..
Hell even just a few years ago they were debating changing the history taught to kids today
Then there’s the moors.. Irish.. so many that eventually got decimated in war who all seem like they’ve been here far longer than the whole manifest destiny bs
When did banks come in to existence?
During the Crusades. The Knights Templar.