34 chain ring, and 11-50 in the back. My goodness, I bet that thing could walk up the telephone pole. This is what I have been hoping to see companies doing in 2024. Bringing out new things that are an upgrade from your typical online. Great job Aventon and great job Scott.
I looked through the comments and didn't see anyone else remark on your trail color designator. Typically Green trails are for beginners, Blue are intermediate, and Black are advanced. You can have double blacks as well, which are basically pro lines. This color system came over from the skiing world, which uses the same color codes to rate trail difficulties. I would say from the riding portion of your video that most of the trails were green with some blue-level jumps thrown in as options along the way. Thanks for the very in-depth look at the bike. Most channels rarely take such a deep dive. Cheers!
you are correct on the signage. I think I had it wrong but I am new at this. I appreciate you watching and thanks for the input! Yes. I stayed on Green and Blue trails. Since then, I have been on a few blacks and survived.
Good job and very thorough as always Scott! 👍🏻 With the components and design of this bike, I would definitely be interested if I was wanting to explore Mountain Biking. I think Aventon knocked this one out of the park! 🚴
Thanks for the great review Scott. I have the st aventure2 and after seeing this might want to add a 2nd bike to my collection with this ramblas especially in the area I live has a lot of trails at the the tip of Lake Superior.
I don't blame you. I used to take my Aventure 2 on the trails but now that I have this thing, I grab it more than I do my full suspension ebike that costs twice as much!
I did ask Aventon and this was the answer I received back from the Product Team: It’s my understanding it’s the freewheel on the crankset similar to shimano’s rattle it’s not a safety issue. Nothing is broken. It’s just noticeable.
@@scotthardesty I have been seeing mixed things about the wheels being tubeless. But if it can be made tubeless that would definitely make this bike even more of a value.
Go on BIKE ROMOUR see the review on their with the aventon crew! THE PICTURES SHOWN OF THE STANCHIONS of the Rock shox 35 look like they packed down and got stuck! THE ANO has Eaten Right through! It must have dry or very tight wiper bushings! Leave the bike upside-down for the night get the oil into them bushings! You have to see this to make aware as could be another stuck fork job! Says the bike only comes with a 2 year warranty aswell! Thats a non selling point especially if the test pics are showing damages
One mistake I see a like of eBikers make is that they use the assist to shift rather than the actual gears. But the assists torque works better at a certain RPM, just like when driving a manual transmission car. I bet you ould climb those steep climbs in Eco or Trail mode just by shifting into the easiest gear. But instead, people don't shift into an easier gear, they push the assist button to turbo and think that's enough to get them up the hill. But your RPMs are too low in a harder gear so the turbo assist isn't providing all the power you need. Again, it would be like trying to climb a hill in a car in 5th or 6th gear at 10 MPH....it isn't going to work very well.
@@scotthardesty The Rambles looks like a great deal. It is priced the same as the Trek Marlin+6 but better spec'd across everything and has a better motor and bigger battery.
Also, has Aventon explained why every reviewers bike rattles like crazy? It seems like this would be super annoying. Is it something inside the motor or is it cables or some other part that can easily be fixed?
While this is a fantastic bike, I am not a mountain biker so I will not be buying this one... This being said, I am VERY hopeful Aventon starts adding fast charging to their models here on out. I mean I am never really in a situation where I NEED it just yet, but I have to imagine there has to be some sort of tech out there that allows an ebike battery to go from 0 to 100% in like 2 hours or less... 5 hours is fine for my commuter needs, but no one is going to say no to things charging faster.
You have a point there. Although, I don't know a single bike that can charge in 2hrs. Clearly it is something that can be done (look at the Tesla) so hopefully we will see something like that in the future. Great idea!
I haven't finished watching the entire video but the the 12:48 mark I'm noticing there are no trees to run into. I was so looking forward to Scott flying down a tree lined trail while I held my breath with anxiety. I would expect the trip would have ended ok since a video was posted, but I would still have anxiety until it was verified. I haven't even seen a drone that had the potential to run into some power lines and create chaos. Therefore, I'm not getting any anxiety on this CA trail so I'm just going to relax and enjoy the video without worrying about any potential stressful events that Scott might toss my way. BTW excellent video so far, but that's the standard I've come to expect from you now. edit: Oh so there was ONE tree on the trail and your head found it.. hehe Oh sorry, I was relaxing and all of sudden, a tree!, got me to sit up in my chair.
Your not talking about you would have held off getting your Giant if you knew this was coming out do you? Honestly mate your Trance is twice the bike this is! This is what you would call the commuter bike here in the UK i myself Use a Full Suspension 2024 cube stereo hoc 160 with fox 38 170mm upfront float X 160mm in rear 2.4 tyres 27.5in as 29ers are way to big i feel! I have more control with the 27.5 and science proves the smaller wheel is faster on roads always has been! Same with cars when you put bigger wheels on it, it will be slower and your speedometer will be off a couple mph! Your more likely to loose balance on road with the taller wheel alot like it alot hate it! Love hate thing! as you were saying about lockout i agree completely you don't want a full lockout on your Suspension for the roads! It just makes you loose even more control doing that! It's the lycra crew who do all this think they own the roads like taxi and bus drivers!
I did mean that I most likely would not have gotten my Trance if this had come out first. The Ramblas does the job. Not near as well my Trance by any means, but I really enjoy riding hard tails.
This is probably the best "action" video I've seen regarding ebikes. I enjoyed every minute of this exciting ride. I used to mountain bike before I got my first ebike in 2017. Currently I have an Aventon Level 2 and enjoy it a lot. The ONLY thing I wish is that ebikes didn't weigh so much. I'm a woman and had to rig my bike rack with my own handmade wooden plank to roll the bike up. It works fine but I'd love to be able to simply lift it up. Thx for the great video, Scott. I was riveted to the screen and kinda felt every bump.
Wow! What a huge complement! Thank you! I plan on hitting more trials with this bike. I do understand about the weight. Most of the weight on this bike is the battery and motor.
I know it may sound elementary but don't you think you could go over what the 3 modes are equal means that you pedal slowly because you're 65 years old but yet it'll be more than enough to push it through or is it a Turbo mode that if you're 65 or 70 and you can just barely paddle it'll get you through whatever it has to do since you don't have a throttle that would really be nice
As a newbie (considering one of these as a first e-bike), what’s the advantage of “tan-wall tires”? Is it just aesthetic or functional? Have you gotten tubeless to work on these wheels?
totally aesthetic. I just bought new tires for this bike but waiting for the rest of the upgrades to come in before I take it to the shop. I will do a video on the upgrades and talk about if I was able to make it tubless.
It’s a nice looking bike. It’s the same price as the new Trek Marlin 6+ e-bike, might be a hard sell even though some of the specs seem slightly better on the Aventon.
@@scotthardesty yeah, most likely. But with Trek you get a motor with a well known and respected history. I'm not in the market for either, I have a full suspension Specialized that suits my needs but it'll be interesting to see how well these sell. Certainly beginners who do no research will likely go with the Aventon, especially if they already own an Aventure or similar.
@@OceanSwimmer201 my biggest concern on the Aventon is the durability of their motor and where you might be able to get it repaired should something go wrong. I have a few e-bikes, one with 90nm mid drive and another with a 50nm mid drive. The difference isn’t huge and I find 50 to be plenty.
Nice video, thanks for sharing! I can hear some rattling noise when you are going fast. Is it the cables inside the frame? Is the rattling loud and annoying?
I asked Aventon's product team about this. This is what they told me. It’s my understanding it’s the freewheel on the crankset similar to shimano’s rattle it’s not a safety issue. Nothing is broken. It’s just noticeable. I am used to it so it doesn't bother me as I barely notice it.
Love the review, big guy, can’t wait for the next one that you have planned on how the Ramblas does as a commuter city ebike, that’s more how I use my Aventon 1.
Great video Scott! I am very interested in picking one of these up. Loving my Aventure 2 this would be a great addition for some additional adventures.
Gotta love the manufacturers "range" estimate I've always said u can basically take whatever their estimate is and lop it in half and that's what ur actually getting
I thought so as well until I tested this bike out as a commuter. It actually went farther than the stated range. Check it out. th-cam.com/video/vonbJu8LpSo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7bwzD04e5j5V5F0m
@scotthardesty just watched the commuter video u got no where near 80 miles no where near 60 even dont they say u get 80 miles range ? Just confused did i not watch the right video?
@@JuniorFA3313 Hi Junior. In my head I was thinking 46 miles on Trail so I was totally off saying it went farther than advertized. It was actually 60 miles they claim. Now, If we look at the fact that I had rode probably a good 10-15 miles in Boost mode due to the wind and this bike still 51 miles, I would say that this is the only bike I have reviewed that would have hit those numbers had I not gone up to Boost. Sorry for the confusion!
We've been going down a similar path - I have an Aventon Aventure as well, and now I'm thinking of an actual E-MTB. The Ramblas looks like a great value choice for a hard tail, but I'm thinking I may want a full suspension bike, and I'm looking at the Giant Trance X Advanced E+ Elite 3 (which I think you have as well? On sale now and includes the extra battery pack). Since you've ridden both pretty extensively - what's your opinion? Giant worth the extra money?
You can't beat a full suspension bike. I am extremely happy with my Giant Trance X E+3. I did see that they gone on sale but still twice the cost of the Ramblas. Once the trails clear up, I will getting with my friends and will be taking them both out on the trails and doing videos with them.
So much bike here. But Strange… had they added mounts for at least racks, and maybe fenders, it would be so much more versatile and they would likely have expanded their market for it. I would use it for light gravel, commuting, errands, long fun rides… but not without being able to throw on just a rear rack. Too bad! And LOVE the purply color it comes in!
Scott, nice job on the channel - I enjoy your videos and your channel actually helped me in deciding my last e-bike purchase. Quick question - I see you have a medium sized frame for this test. How tall are you and how did you find the sizing/geo/standover height? I'm a short 5'7" with a short inseam, but from the specs on Aventon's site it looks like the M size will have enough standover for me. I want one!
Excellent review! I'll wait for a year or two before I seriously consider the move from my Aventure 2 to this model. I've had my Aventure 2 on some pretty awesome mountain trails here in Colorado and it's been nearly perfect for me.
Nice review! I;d love for someone to do a ride comparison between this one & the Ride1Up Prodigy V2 w/ CVT. I really want a throttle, but I might have to just keep my older ebike for rides where I need a throttle and get one of these for some quality e-mtn bike rides. We have some epic mtn bike trails here in NorCal.
Aventon does something very smart with this bike. They went for the hardtail instead of an overcomplicated fullsuspension, that wil be a problem for their service capabilities to maintain these bikes afterwards. This bike, for the US, is a no brainer. Nice components from the front to the back that are screaming - you will enjoy the ride. The motor looks a bit like the Shimano EP8. Maybe it's a rebranded custom version with a bit more Nm.
They designed their own motor. When I was in CA with them, they broke it all down showing the motor and the science they went into designing it. I think they even have a video out just featuring the motor.
Nice review. I just bought my Pace 500.3 a month ago. The Pace is a great bike and these are two completely different bikes, but I might have waited and bought this had I known. Would prefer to have a throttle but I understand why it doesn't. Might need to make room in the bike shed for this one. 🤔
Talking about Chicago weather, First time in recorded weather history that Chicago has had two back to back 70+ days in February… The 2nd day being the day you released this video…(Today) Happy Trails and Safe Riding!!!
Im 52 and have an Aventure that I got a couple years ago. Ivr never done a MB trail, but it looks like a lot of fun. Would this be a good starter for an older novice?
I'm 55 and consider myself a beginner. I would totally recommend this bike for someone who wants to get into mountain biking. I will be using this one more than I will be using my 6k Giant while I get better at riding.
This is a great party of the market that seems to be missed by the budget bike market. Not everyone needs a 80 plus pound bike. Thanks for taking this out on the trail and doing it's thing!!
A great review and great video. Scott! Looks like this would be a great alternative to the more expensive electric mountain bikes out there. Yet another winner from Aventon!
Long term follower, Congrats Scott on getting this opportunity. Great content, Great bike. You helped me pick my aventure last summer. This could be this years bike well see.
On the mtb trails you won't even notice. I did just finish testing this bike out as a commuter and the only time I missed not having a throttle was when I was riding directly into 21+mph winds on Trail mode. Once I switched it to turbo, I didn't miss the throttle at all. Video coming soon.
Thank you for doing this video. I saw the new release and wanted to see it in action. I NEW you’d be the man to have the review. I watched your reviews on the Aventure and Aventure 2 and bought the Aventure 2 last May. I LOVE that bike!!
Thanks for the support Kevin! So far, the biggest question I have seen is when people are trying to decide between the Aventure 2 and Ramblas. I have some other testing with the Ramblas first but will be able to do a comparison video soon.
The Aventon Ramblas is a very good value at $2700, but if you wanted to spurge just a little bit more, the Cannondale Moterra Neo 3 (a $6700 bike, on sale for $4500) is a much, much better bike for the money. Getting a full suspension e-bike with the Bosch Smart System motor; for under 5K, is an absolute deal for a higher-end e-bike. Get one (they are from 2022) while they are still available for a great deal.
Another nice video Scott. I am not a trail guy so I will be sticking with the Aventure but I was just curious to see the offering. I am still hoping they will eventually make a recumbent trike.
Interesting about the recumbent trike. I can see maybe a trike in the future but I seldom see a recumbent trike. Not sure there is enough demand for Aventon to produce one of those.
@scotthardesty They are extremely popular with older riders who either have mobility issues or just aren't as steady as they used to be. A bike accident for an older person is often devastating. It could take you out of biking for months or even forever. I have an Aventure that I ride alone. When I ride with my wife I ride a Greenspeed Magnum recumbent trike because she has a recumbent trike. She basically rides slower than I do and will just randomly stop. It's hard to ride slow on a bike and the random stops are really annoying. She's just sitting there. I'm falling over. So buying the Magnum was cheaper than marriage counseling or a divorce.
ALOT. Forks are build for jumps. It's lighter than the Level 2, No throttle, only 20mph, better gears, better brakes, dropper seat post. It's a different animal. No way would I attempt these jumps on the Level 2. It's frame, rims, and forks are built to handle that.
Scott, guess I need further explanation of the differences between the models, but I don't see what this bike does that an Aventure 2 won't do, and it costs over $600 more than my Aventure 2, before factoring in sales tax. Granted, the tires are different, and this bike is mid-drive while my Aventure 2 is rear hub. But I have a Class 3 capable bike with much faster top end. I could never go back to a bike that is limited to 20 mph. Off-roading/trail riding is not what I do, but I don't think I'd be afraid to use my ebike on those trails. And I have 5 pedal assist levels, not 3. Maybe you can educate me to what I'm missing. Although electrical engineering was never my forte, I lived in auto engineering for my career, so you can get technical in your explanation.
I would never do the jumps with my Aventure 2 that I am and will be doing with this one. The front forks wouldn't be able to handle it. Basically, this bike is not a replacement for the Aventure 2. Instead, its a bike that will allow those who want to expand their limits on single track trails.
@@rayrussell6258 Both. The fork is a better fork with more travel. The front end is much lighter, more gears, stronger motor, the mid drive keeps it balanced instead of all the weight on the back due to the hub motor. Taller rims make rolling over obstacles easier. There are a lot of differences when you really look at it.
A couple more things Ray, to add to what Scott pointed out: - The geometry is very different from the Aventure, Ramblas has a more aggressive geo, made for descending/rolling down trails with more confidence - brakes are 4-piston and much more powerful - the bike is almost 30lbs lighter - the mid drive delivers power very differently, which is much more suited to off-roading than hub motors - 1x12 drivetrain with more suited climbing gears for 15%+ climbs - and much much more :) Great video Scott! Cheers from Munich ;)
@@scotthardesty lol I hate peddling 😂 but my adventure 1 does fine . Love the 28 mph without needing a license lol , you can fake peddle to trick the thing lol Seems good for mountain biking though
@@funnyai5262 I get it. I have put my Aventure and Aventure 2 on many mountain bike trails. I just can't do the things with my Aventure that I can do with this.
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34 chain ring, and 11-50 in the back. My goodness, I bet that thing could walk up the telephone pole. This is what I have been hoping to see companies doing in 2024. Bringing out new things that are an upgrade from your typical online. Great job Aventon and great job Scott.
Thanks. I believe it might be able to climb a telephone pole. hahaha
I looked through the comments and didn't see anyone else remark on your trail color designator. Typically Green trails are for beginners, Blue are intermediate, and Black are advanced. You can have double blacks as well, which are basically pro lines. This color system came over from the skiing world, which uses the same color codes to rate trail difficulties. I would say from the riding portion of your video that most of the trails were green with some blue-level jumps thrown in as options along the way. Thanks for the very in-depth look at the bike. Most channels rarely take such a deep dive. Cheers!
you are correct on the signage. I think I had it wrong but I am new at this. I appreciate you watching and thanks for the input! Yes. I stayed on Green and Blue trails. Since then, I have been on a few blacks and survived.
Good job and very thorough as always Scott! 👍🏻 With the components and design of this bike, I would definitely be interested if I was wanting to explore Mountain Biking. I think Aventon knocked this one out of the park! 🚴
Thank you! And I agree! I am super happy to rock this bike on the trails.
Thanks for the great review Scott. I have the st aventure2 and after seeing this might want to add a 2nd bike to my collection with this ramblas especially in the area I live has a lot of trails at the the tip of Lake Superior.
I don't blame you. I used to take my Aventure 2 on the trails but now that I have this thing, I grab it more than I do my full suspension ebike that costs twice as much!
If I was 10/15 years younger I’d be all over this bike but happy Aventon finally released an EMTB, this should sell well for them.
I think it will as well. Thanks for watching!
Aventon def stepped it up with this one!
Agreed
Scott thanks as always love the content... Aventon my Fav might be getting this one ,
Thanks man, and I get it. I also love Aventon bikes so I can see me doing a lot more videos with this bike.
Great video. And the fact that that Aventon flew you out to CA speaks to your credibility and the quality of your reviews Scott. Nice bike Aventon.
Thank you!
Speaks to them wanting to sell Chinese junk.
Scott. Any thoughts on motor chatter when NOT peddling? It's keeping me from ordering. Thanks
I did ask Aventon and this was the answer I received back from the Product Team: It’s my understanding it’s the freewheel on the crankset similar to shimano’s rattle it’s not a safety issue. Nothing is broken. It’s just noticeable.
Imagine version 2 or 3 of this LOL. Big companies batter figure things out quick, Sweet ride Scott.
That's what I was thinking. It will only get better from here! And here is pretty damn good already.
Scott how do you compare this one with your Adventure 2 ? I know it’s one of your favorites. Thanks 😅
I will be doing a comparison video for sure. First, I want to see how the Ramblas is as a commuter so I can give an honest comparison.
It looks sweet I'm getting one this summer after I sell my Aventure and Bandit 😂
Nice 👍
Do you know if the wheels are tubeless ready? I dont think the tires are? Looking forward to updates video.
I will know soon as I am looking at switching out to tubeless. Any rim can be tubless ready with the right tape, so I don't think it will be an issue.
@@scotthardesty I have been seeing mixed things about the wheels being tubeless. But if it can be made tubeless that would definitely make this bike even more of a value.
@@G14tube To my understanding it can be. I would reach out to Aventon via chat and confirm. I won't know until I do it next month.
What was the battery level 34:50 after 15 miles of riding?
I can't remember. I do know that it wasn't a full battery when I test rode it, and there was plenty of riding left for that battery.
Its not full suspension?
No. It is a hard tail.
Go on BIKE ROMOUR see the review on their with the aventon crew! THE PICTURES SHOWN OF THE STANCHIONS of the Rock shox 35 look like they packed down and got stuck! THE ANO has Eaten Right through! It must have dry or very tight wiper bushings! Leave the bike upside-down for the night get the oil into them bushings! You have to see this to make aware as could be another stuck fork job!
Says the bike only comes with a 2 year warranty aswell! Thats a non selling point especially if the test pics are showing damages
I guess I need to check that out! My Ramblas goes in tomorrow to get upgrades.
Electric moped
Hahahaha. Mopeds have throttles. And you can't ride trails like this with them, but okay. Either way, thanks for watching!
Woah didn’t even know they were releasing this. Thanks to you for letting me see it first hand. Great review
It's been a minute since I was this excited about a bike.
One mistake I see a like of eBikers make is that they use the assist to shift rather than the actual gears. But the assists torque works better at a certain RPM, just like when driving a manual transmission car. I bet you ould climb those steep climbs in Eco or Trail mode just by shifting into the easiest gear. But instead, people don't shift into an easier gear, they push the assist button to turbo and think that's enough to get them up the hill. But your RPMs are too low in a harder gear so the turbo assist isn't providing all the power you need. Again, it would be like trying to climb a hill in a car in 5th or 6th gear at 10 MPH....it isn't going to work very well.
I understand and agree. Many of us are beginners in this sport so advice like this is noteworthy. Thanks for the input.
You got it backwards - green trails are for beginners and blue for intermediates.
Once you said that, it souds right. I'm a newb! Thanks!
@@scotthardesty The Rambles looks like a great deal. It is priced the same as the Trek Marlin+6 but better spec'd across everything and has a better motor and bigger battery.
Also, has Aventon explained why every reviewers bike rattles like crazy? It seems like this would be super annoying. Is it something inside the motor or is it cables or some other part that can easily be fixed?
I noticed that and also talked to them about that. It is something in gearing. Not sure if it can be fixed yet.
Nice bike! bit heavy for a hardtail but seems like a good deal, how's the motor noise compared to your Trance E?
Good question. I feel that is about the same volume. I need to compare but it wasn't bad at all!
While this is a fantastic bike, I am not a mountain biker so I will not be buying this one... This being said, I am VERY hopeful Aventon starts adding fast charging to their models here on out. I mean I am never really in a situation where I NEED it just yet, but I have to imagine there has to be some sort of tech out there that allows an ebike battery to go from 0 to 100% in like 2 hours or less... 5 hours is fine for my commuter needs, but no one is going to say no to things charging faster.
You have a point there. Although, I don't know a single bike that can charge in 2hrs. Clearly it is something that can be done (look at the Tesla) so hopefully we will see something like that in the future. Great idea!
I haven't finished watching the entire video but the the 12:48 mark I'm noticing there are no trees to run into. I was so looking forward to Scott flying down a tree lined trail while I held my breath with anxiety. I would expect the trip would have ended ok since a video was posted, but I would still have anxiety until it was verified. I haven't even seen a drone that had the potential to run into some power lines and create chaos. Therefore, I'm not getting any anxiety on this CA trail so I'm just going to relax and enjoy the video without worrying about any potential stressful events that Scott might toss my way. BTW excellent video so far, but that's the standard I've come to expect from you now.
edit: Oh so there was ONE tree on the trail and your head found it.. hehe Oh sorry, I was relaxing and all of sudden, a tree!, got me to sit up in my chair.
Of course I'm going to hit the only tree. It's kinda my thing. Thanks for watching!
Your not talking about you would have held off getting your Giant if you knew this was coming out do you? Honestly mate your Trance is twice the bike this is! This is what you would call the commuter bike here in the UK i myself Use a Full Suspension 2024 cube stereo hoc 160 with fox 38 170mm upfront float X 160mm in rear 2.4 tyres 27.5in as 29ers are way to big i feel!
I have more control with the 27.5 and science proves the smaller wheel is faster on roads always has been! Same with cars when you put bigger wheels on it, it will be slower and your speedometer will be off a couple mph! Your more likely to loose balance on road with the taller wheel alot like it alot hate it! Love hate thing!
as you were saying about lockout i agree completely you don't want a full lockout on your Suspension for the roads! It just makes you loose even more control doing that! It's the lycra crew who do all this think they own the roads like taxi and bus drivers!
I did mean that I most likely would not have gotten my Trance if this had come out first. The Ramblas does the job. Not near as well my Trance by any means, but I really enjoy riding hard tails.
Great, now I have to explain to my wife why a need this bike. Great review, more trails please.
hahahaha... More to come!
This is probably the best "action" video I've seen regarding ebikes. I enjoyed every minute of this exciting ride. I used to mountain bike before I got my first ebike in 2017. Currently I have an Aventon Level 2 and enjoy it a lot. The ONLY thing I wish is that ebikes didn't weigh so much. I'm a woman and had to rig my bike rack with my own handmade wooden plank to roll the bike up. It works fine but I'd love to be able to simply lift it up. Thx for the great video, Scott. I was riveted to the screen and kinda felt every bump.
Wow! What a huge complement! Thank you! I plan on hitting more trials with this bike. I do understand about the weight. Most of the weight on this bike is the battery and motor.
I know it may sound elementary but don't you think you could go over what the 3 modes are equal means that you pedal slowly because you're 65 years old but yet it'll be more than enough to push it through or is it a Turbo mode that if you're 65 or 70 and you can just barely paddle it'll get you through whatever it has to do since you don't have a throttle that would really be nice
You just covered it. That is exactly how it works.
As a newbie (considering one of these as a first e-bike), what’s the advantage of “tan-wall tires”? Is it just aesthetic or functional? Have you gotten tubeless to work on these wheels?
totally aesthetic. I just bought new tires for this bike but waiting for the rest of the upgrades to come in before I take it to the shop. I will do a video on the upgrades and talk about if I was able to make it tubless.
It’s a nice looking bike. It’s the same price as the new Trek Marlin 6+ e-bike, might be a hard sell even though some of the specs seem slightly better on the Aventon.
I think its going to be about Brand loyalty between those 2.
@@scotthardesty yeah, most likely. But with Trek you get a motor with a well known and respected history. I'm not in the market for either, I have a full suspension Specialized that suits my needs but it'll be interesting to see how well these sell. Certainly beginners who do no research will likely go with the Aventon, especially if they already own an Aventure or similar.
Aventon has 100 Nm or torque. 50 on the trek. Also, rockshox and dropper seat post on Aventon. I'm going with the Aventon.
@@OceanSwimmer201 my biggest concern on the Aventon is the durability of their motor and where you might be able to get it repaired should something go wrong. I have a few e-bikes, one with 90nm mid drive and another with a 50nm mid drive. The difference isn’t huge and I find 50 to be plenty.
Your best video Scott. We have 2 Level 2 based on your recommendations. You
Nice bike. I like the seat dropper . 😅
Thanks Doug!
Nice video, thanks for sharing! I can hear some rattling noise when you are going fast. Is it the cables inside the frame? Is the rattling loud and annoying?
I asked Aventon's product team about this. This is what they told me. It’s my understanding it’s the freewheel on the crankset similar to shimano’s rattle it’s not a safety issue. Nothing is broken. It’s just noticeable.
I am used to it so it doesn't bother me as I barely notice it.
@@scotthardesty thanks for your reply!
Why did you leave the speed settings at 20MPH? How high a speed can the controller handle?
20 is the Max speed.
It’s good to know this bike has water resistance. I live next to the lake.
I'm looking forward to testing that out.
What is your height? I am 5'9" and not sure between the Medium or Large
I am also 5'9" - 32" inseam and this bike fits me perfectly.
Nice bike Scott! Thanks for the review. Nice to see Aventon branching out, love their bikes.
Thanks! I agree!
$3000 , but anything comparable will be $4000 or more easily
Agreed! When I was looking, the only one I could find with that size battery was my Giant. $5800.
Love the review, big guy, can’t wait for the next one that you have planned on how the Ramblas does as a commuter city ebike, that’s more how I use my Aventon 1.
Coming soon!
Me too got mad popcorn just waiting. And by popcorn I mean A cross rib roast I did to perfection 😏
Great video Scott! I am very interested in picking one of these up. Loving my Aventure 2 this would be a great addition for some additional adventures.
Agreed!
Agreed!
Gotta love the manufacturers "range" estimate I've always said u can basically take whatever their estimate is and lop it in half and that's what ur actually getting
I thought so as well until I tested this bike out as a commuter. It actually went farther than the stated range. Check it out. th-cam.com/video/vonbJu8LpSo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7bwzD04e5j5V5F0m
@scotthardesty just watched the commuter video u got no where near 80 miles no where near 60 even dont they say u get 80 miles range ? Just confused did i not watch the right video?
@@JuniorFA3313 Hi Junior. In my head I was thinking 46 miles on Trail so I was totally off saying it went farther than advertized. It was actually 60 miles they claim. Now, If we look at the fact that I had rode probably a good 10-15 miles in Boost mode due to the wind and this bike still 51 miles, I would say that this is the only bike I have reviewed that would have hit those numbers had I not gone up to Boost. Sorry for the confusion!
Scott, great video. I met Logan last year when he was in Orlando. Nice guy! Will certainly look into this bike!
Awesome man. The bike is legit. Logan was the best!
how much does it weigh with battery installed?
Depending on size 56lbs for small - 58lbs for M-XL
We've been going down a similar path - I have an Aventon Aventure as well, and now I'm thinking of an actual E-MTB. The Ramblas looks like a great value choice for a hard tail, but I'm thinking I may want a full suspension bike, and I'm looking at the Giant Trance X Advanced E+ Elite 3 (which I think you have as well? On sale now and includes the extra battery pack). Since you've ridden both pretty extensively - what's your opinion? Giant worth the extra money?
You can't beat a full suspension bike. I am extremely happy with my Giant Trance X E+3. I did see that they gone on sale but still twice the cost of the Ramblas. Once the trails clear up, I will getting with my friends and will be taking them both out on the trails and doing videos with them.
So much bike here. But Strange… had they added mounts for at least racks, and maybe fenders, it would be so much more versatile and they would likely have expanded their market for it. I would use it for light gravel, commuting, errands, long fun rides… but not without being able to throw on just a rear rack. Too bad! And LOVE the purply color it comes in!
They do sell a 3rd party rack that fits the Ramblas. I did a video on that for you. Nothing about fender tho.
Scott, nice job on the channel - I enjoy your videos and your channel actually helped me in deciding my last e-bike purchase. Quick question - I see you have a medium sized frame for this test. How tall are you and how did you find the sizing/geo/standover height? I'm a short 5'7" with a short inseam, but from the specs on Aventon's site it looks like the M size will have enough standover for me. I want one!
Hi Buzz. Thanks for reaching out. I am 5'9" with a 32" inseam. This bike fits me very well.
wonder if they will make full suspension
I hope so.
Excellent review! I'll wait for a year or two before I seriously consider the move from my Aventure 2 to this model. I've had my Aventure 2 on some pretty awesome mountain trails here in Colorado and it's been nearly perfect for me.
I totally understand. Thanks for watching!
Nice review! I;d love for someone to do a ride comparison between this one & the Ride1Up Prodigy V2 w/ CVT. I really want a throttle, but I might have to just keep my older ebike for rides where I need a throttle and get one of these for some quality e-mtn bike rides. We have some epic mtn bike trails here in NorCal.
Unfortunately, I do not have a Ride1Up Prodigy to compare. Let's go! @ride1up
Aventon does something very smart with this bike. They went for the hardtail instead of an overcomplicated fullsuspension, that wil be a problem for their service capabilities to maintain these bikes afterwards. This bike, for the US, is a no brainer. Nice components from the front to the back that are screaming - you will enjoy the ride. The motor looks a bit like the Shimano EP8. Maybe it's a rebranded custom version with a bit more Nm.
They designed their own motor. When I was in CA with them, they broke it all down showing the motor and the science they went into designing it. I think they even have a video out just featuring the motor.
Nice review. I just bought my Pace 500.3 a month ago. The Pace is a great bike and these are two completely different bikes, but I might have waited and bought this had I known. Would prefer to have a throttle but I understand why it doesn't. Might need to make room in the bike shed for this one. 🤔
With how quick the PAS responds on this bike, I didn't even miss not having a throttle.
Talking about Chicago weather, First time in recorded weather history that Chicago has had two back to back 70+ days in February… The 2nd day being the day you released this video…(Today)
Happy Trails and Safe Riding!!!
Yup. I had to take that opportunity and film a review for another bike that day. Today I am on bikes running errands until the storms come in.
I’m so upset how your views are not through the roof with your content!!! It’s definitely worthy of huge numbers.
Thank you! It will come in time.
Im 52 and have an Aventure that I got a couple years ago. Ivr never done a MB trail, but it looks like a lot of fun. Would this be a good starter for an older novice?
I'm 55 and consider myself a beginner. I would totally recommend this bike for someone who wants to get into mountain biking. I will be using this one more than I will be using my 6k Giant while I get better at riding.
This is a great party of the market that seems to be missed by the budget bike market. Not everyone needs a 80 plus pound bike. Thanks for taking this out on the trail and doing it's thing!!
I agree! Thanks for watching! I plan on doing a lot more different videos with the Ramblas
A great review and great video. Scott! Looks like this would be a great alternative to the more expensive electric mountain bikes out there. Yet another winner from Aventon!
Exactly. A year ago when I was looking for something like this, there wasn't anything around with a big battery that under 4k.
Great video and review! I’ve never considered mountain biking before, but you’ve definitely piqued my interest.
It's a different kind of riding that is 100% a good time.
Just like this bike, you are killing the game, Scott. Proud to be an Aventon owner myself.
Thanks man!
Long term follower, Congrats Scott on getting this opportunity. Great content, Great bike. You helped me pick my aventure last summer. This could be this years bike well see.
Thanks for the support!
Does the Ramblas have shift detection on the drive train? Love this video, your enthusiasm is so contangious!
Not that I know of. Thanks for watching!
I have the adventure 2, i love it. If I buy this, will miss this not having the throttle lever?
On the mtb trails you won't even notice. I did just finish testing this bike out as a commuter and the only time I missed not having a throttle was when I was riding directly into 21+mph winds on Trail mode. Once I switched it to turbo, I didn't miss the throttle at all. Video coming soon.
Is 20mph the top speed?
I have had it up to 21.6mph but thats as fast as it will go. You cannot unlock the speed.
Looks like a great bike, really like the mid drive for climbing, for me hard tails are the only way to go
This thing is BILLY GOAT!
Thank you for doing this video. I saw the new release and wanted to see it in action. I NEW you’d be the man to have the review. I watched your reviews on the Aventure and Aventure 2 and bought the Aventure 2 last May. I LOVE that bike!!
Thanks for the support Kevin! So far, the biggest question I have seen is when people are trying to decide between the Aventure 2 and Ramblas. I have some other testing with the Ramblas first but will be able to do a comparison video soon.
I have both, well my wife uses the ramblas, and we love them!
Fantastic job as always Scott.
Thanks Bob!
Looking forward to the Best Buy clearance on these several years in the future.
hahaha
The Aventon Ramblas is a very good value at $2700, but if you wanted to spurge just a little bit more, the Cannondale Moterra Neo 3 (a $6700 bike, on sale for $4500) is a much, much better bike for the money. Getting a full suspension e-bike with the Bosch Smart System motor; for under 5K, is an absolute deal for a higher-end e-bike. Get one (they are from 2022) while they are still available for a great deal.
I think that if your budget is under 3k, this is the way to go.
Если китаец захватит рынок на 100% вы забудете слово качество техники, немецкий электровелосипеды лучшие в мире MTB 🤘
Похоже, Германия, возможно, захочет начать производить больше велосипедов и доставлять их в США.
Another nice video Scott. I am not a trail guy so I will be sticking with the Aventure but I was just curious to see the offering. I am still hoping they will eventually make a recumbent trike.
Interesting about the recumbent trike. I can see maybe a trike in the future but I seldom see a recumbent trike. Not sure there is enough demand for Aventon to produce one of those.
@scotthardesty They are extremely popular with older riders who either have mobility issues or just aren't as steady as they used to be. A bike accident for an older person is often devastating. It could take you out of biking for months or even forever. I have an Aventure that I ride alone. When I ride with my wife I ride a Greenspeed Magnum recumbent trike because she has a recumbent trike. She basically rides slower than I do and will just randomly stop. It's hard to ride slow on a bike and the random stops are really annoying. She's just sitting there. I'm falling over. So buying the Magnum was cheaper than marriage counseling or a divorce.
@@ericd.6368 I guess it woiuld be cheaper. hahahaha
It looks just like my level 2 what’s different ? Other then the seat post
ALOT. Forks are build for jumps. It's lighter than the Level 2, No throttle, only 20mph, better gears, better brakes, dropper seat post. It's a different animal. No way would I attempt these jumps on the Level 2. It's frame, rims, and forks are built to handle that.
@@scotthardesty thanks for the info
@@Taduuuu Of course!
Great video, curious to see how it survives the water!
Me too! Coming soon!
I'm happy you got one so fast!
Me too! The fact that they flew me out to CA to hit the trails was even more unexpected!
Nice Gloves! It was a blast getting to ride with you, and the video looks great!
Thanks man! You made this video happen!
Scott, guess I need further explanation of the differences between the models, but I don't see what this bike does that an Aventure 2 won't do, and it costs over $600 more than my Aventure 2, before factoring in sales tax. Granted, the tires are different, and this bike is mid-drive while my Aventure 2 is rear hub. But I have a Class 3 capable bike with much faster top end. I could never go back to a bike that is limited to 20 mph. Off-roading/trail riding is not what I do, but I don't think I'd be afraid to use my ebike on those trails. And I have 5 pedal assist levels, not 3.
Maybe you can educate me to what I'm missing. Although electrical engineering was never my forte, I lived in auto engineering for my career, so you can get technical in your explanation.
I would never do the jumps with my Aventure 2 that I am and will be doing with this one. The front forks wouldn't be able to handle it. Basically, this bike is not a replacement for the Aventure 2. Instead, its a bike that will allow those who want to expand their limits on single track trails.
@@scotthardesty do you mean because of durability of the fork, or the travel?
@@rayrussell6258 Both. The fork is a better fork with more travel. The front end is much lighter, more gears, stronger motor, the mid drive keeps it balanced instead of all the weight on the back due to the hub motor. Taller rims make rolling over obstacles easier. There are a lot of differences when you really look at it.
A couple more things Ray, to add to what Scott pointed out:
- The geometry is very different from the Aventure, Ramblas has a more aggressive geo, made for descending/rolling down trails with more confidence
- brakes are 4-piston and much more powerful
- the bike is almost 30lbs lighter
- the mid drive delivers power very differently, which is much more suited to off-roading than hub motors
- 1x12 drivetrain with more suited climbing gears for 15%+ climbs
- and much much more :)
Great video Scott! Cheers from Munich ;)
@@guicrepin Thanks for the assist! Cheers!
Wish it had a throttle
It really doesn't need one.
@@scotthardesty lol I hate peddling 😂 but my adventure 1 does fine . Love the 28 mph without needing a license lol , you can fake peddle to trick the thing lol
Seems good for mountain biking though
@@funnyai5262 I get it. I have put my Aventure and Aventure 2 on many mountain bike trails. I just can't do the things with my Aventure that I can do with this.
@@scotthardesty yea I’ve tried going up steep trails with adventure lol it’s dies 😂😂😂 definitely not meant for that 😂
@@funnyai5262 The Aventure 2 with its torque sensor does make it easier. This bike will climb everything our Aventures can't.
A great bike for your wife! Or a man with a manicure!
Hahahaha.. I might be able to get her on the bike, but she would never take it down any trial!
I bought one a cupl Mos. ago- da 💥! Love it- and thanks for your vid. Very helpful to adapt, I hit trails like that!
I love this bike so much I bought another one!