With E85 rising in cost at the pump, I decided it's best to start producing them at my garage. Random Fact The 1920s prohibition was also kickstarted by the big oil company when the Model A was marketed as a flex fuel.
I bring that fact up about the prohibition and that Henry Ford even made vehicles to run on corn fuels. The oil companies didn't like that farmers where becoming less dependent.
@@giacomoneri1782 yep. That's another component in the war on cannabis. Not only were lumber companies afraid of the massive losses from hemp over taking textile and paper.
I watched the video with no sound as my daughter was studying for her degree, but I completely understood 100 percent of it. it's a very informative video and actually could save you money.😊😊😊
If you add salt till saturation to the mead or other fermented liquid you raise the boiling point of the water meaning you can extract more fuel and leave more water behind per cycle.
industrial use USP ethanol is very useful for a wide variety of uses from distilling alco soluable compounds to high performance compression fuels. Making it at home will prove to be an important off-the-grid skill
That's the idea, yes. those two mix perfectly without any additional addative or process, so anyone should feel comfortable with it. if you don't have the ability to run on 85+% ethanol, note that your gasoline car can probably run on a significantly more ethanol dense fuel than it's currently running with only a small uptick in heat. cars built in the last 20 years can be nudged up to 15% with almost no change, 20% might still run well. cars in the last 10 years can run fine with *double* the ethanol that is already in commercially available gasoline, but newer cars may not be as willing to accept the extra heat, so monitor carefully when pushing past 20%.
@@CSLFiero iv fitted a 1998 saab b204 to my 2007 astra vxr. It's currently running on e85. Sometimes even throw in some paint thinners for a bit of extra power. If I made what this person here is making which I have in the past could I basically mix it with a high octain fule like race fuel and basically run my car on it?
Vacuum distillation is way more energy efficient because you can lower the boiling point to 35⁰C. An electric vacuum pump (or maybe an used refrigerator compressor) energy consumption is a fraction compared to a burner.
If you want max efficiency (and I’d assume you do when making fuel) you would want two pool heating setups linked in series, a solar collector (evacuated tubes are the best) and a heat pump, coupled with your vacuum pump and a few PV panels and you could be distilling fast, efficient, and free (maintenance and brewing ingredients would be your actual cost after that, and since you get about 10years out of new panels and heat pumps it can get pretty cheap if you run it non stop for its life. Scalability is the issue here, need to be heating your home or fueling your transportation if you are wanting to go efficient.
Fractional distillation through controlling the temperature to separate what's in the liquid and then condensing it down. The temp rise's to show when it's now traversing to the next liquid and would contain just a little of that combined still because of both liquids in the transition. Always best to use a transitional beaker of some sort to keep the purity up between the 2 liquids that you can separate later. Hmm now were getting into what solids maybe in the liquids yet that's easier after the liquids are separated. Chemistry in highschool... Now how to turn a penny into a fake gold penny... Nice video guys.
So nice! Watching this video I come to an idea to use a heat exchanger instead the pot. Like a chiller evaporator or condenser, with water as a second working fluid which temperature will be controlled to < 100°C and greater than ethanol evaporation temperature
It would be interesting to use the ethanol created to burn as the fuel that is heating the pressure cooker, then subtract out how much fuel was burned from how much was created and see what the net ethanol production is.
You would not be subtracting the amount of fuel burnt [to heat] from that produced. You would be subtracting the [much smaller] amount produced from that used to heat.
MAAAAN I don’t even get any of this but I love how this man took the time out of his day to show this information like damn bro I appreciate your help for your fellow people. Supporting you bruh keep this up 💯💯💯
Hes just essentially making moonshine. I've "allegedly" made it several times. His is a little complicated compared to what I've used but the principle is the same. He's using mead instead of mash in his pot. The principle behind distilling alcohol is that alcohol will turn to a vapor before water will under heat. If you keep the temperature at 172° you will get alcohol to flash off the product in the pot and once the vapors go to the top and exit to the heat exchanger he's made in the water also known as a coil or as shiners call it a "worm". The worm is surrounded in cool water which cools the vapors and allow them to turn into liquid alcohol
Awesome, noticed you were probably streaming this at the time. So great props for how it turned out, like doing everything in order and correctly while being live. Respect! And thanks, I already make wine, 15% but non natural yeast, and well fuels supposed to hit 6 nationwide by August soo this might be a required norm pretty soon.
I was wondering: in order to distill the fermented mead, you have to put in some kind of energy, wether it is gas, electricity or whatever the stove works with. Plus, fruit waste, sugars, etc. have their own cost. So, by the time you have your final ethanol, you need to subtract from its stored value, the cost it takes to make it. You could come up with some numbers by using an avarage price of fruits, gas (or electricity), the amout of it you need to make how much ethanol you end up with. Any idea?
I am new to this, but it sounds so simple, at this first stage, but then you are using gas to heat your Mead why not use an everyday fireplace that we used to heat our homes everyday with this system refined built into it to produce larger quantities is there such a fireplace on the market that can do this or should I design one and put up a link
We use sugar, water and yeast in Sweden, then distill and pour the alcohol through a tube filled with activated carbon. Then it's just a matter of drinking. But it's illegal 😁
Very simple process but I really appreciate how much you went into the detail. People that make how to videos need to really drive in the basics even though it might seem unnecessary.
Reminds me on the show moonshiners lol. I wonder does the length you have the vapor hose running through the cool water effect how cool the water stays and/or how much burnable fuel you end up with?
Doesn't look like high grade fuel distillation. You need a Fractional Distiller and molecular sieves. Wet ethanol is fine but you need to redo a lot of the car.
Might add the importance of not trying to drink that after running thru that setup, you never ever want to drink alcohol that’s been thru a aluminum pot still. There are toxins released from the aluminum that are very dangerous
No the pressure cooker is only a convenient sealed chamber to boil the mead in. once he put the hole in it for the condenser it lost the ability to build pressure in any significant quantity. You could substitute it with other items at hand as long as it 1.can be sealed, 2. Will hold up to the heat source and 3. Will hold up to the corrosive properties of ethanol. A thrift shop pressure cooker just hits all the criteria in a cheap package.
guys this shit slaps for drinking, i cna just sup a bit from the botlle whiel i poor, is chep and dont need to cost to buy it from the store because it stron aonly need small. make driving mor fun also
This method is okay, but one can easily extract water and ethanol from regular fuel via separatory funnel. After the water and ethanol is separated, the water can be separated from the ethanol using simple distillation w/ light heat (70c) with no risks. Water will evaporate at room temperature but that will take a very long time. This is about as anhydrous as you're going to get without a more advanced setup.
I get it and completely love what you're doing, but to think that a large metropolitan area will be able to do this is simply not feasible. They all mostly die.
You could for the outer jacket, but the heat may compromise the integrity of the pvc nearest the still & you might spring a leak. The insulation quality of the pvc would be better than the copper for retaining the cooling ability of the water though, as copper draws the heat from the outside as well as the inside. But your inner "worm" will have to be metal due to heat transfer for condensing, and copper is your best choice for that.
A certain percentage of each batch is methanol. Still burnable. Actually better fuel. But, that portion is a neurotoxin. That's what makes people go blind drinking moonshine. There are ways to tell what portion is methanol and remove it. But, for fuel, you don't need to remove it.
the propane is just a means of boiling the mead, you could substitute that with anything that gets hot enough to boil alcohol, electric, wood, or waste heat from other equipment even. Alcohol only has a Boiling point of 173.1F as apposed to waters Boiling point of 212F you could use a solar system to charge a battery and run the whole thing off a repurposed coffee maker coil if you had the means.
This is cool. Both pixels look great.
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Lol
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It's not that bad 😂😂😂😂😂
I laughed way too loud just now. This was the best comment I have read in a long long while.
With E85 rising in cost at the pump, I decided it's best to start producing them at my garage.
Random Fact
The 1920s prohibition was also kickstarted by the big oil company when the Model A was marketed as a flex fuel.
I bring that fact up about the prohibition and that Henry Ford even made vehicles to run on corn fuels. The oil companies didn't like that farmers where becoming less dependent.
Evil demon globalist crooks at work. Always at work to keep us down. Evil fuckin bastards
@@ajcsonsforge6370 he was also making hemp fuel and hemp plastic when they started all the marjuana bullshit
@@giacomoneri1782 yep. That's another component in the war on cannabis. Not only were lumber companies afraid of the massive losses from hemp over taking textile and paper.
It's always some big oil bullshit. Leaded gasoline was also a byproduct of wanting to beat down ethanol additives for higher octanes.
I watched the video with no sound as my daughter was studying for her degree, but I completely understood 100 percent of it. it's a very informative video and actually could save you money.😊😊😊
Even with 2007 nokia vibe, still gotta love it man
If you add salt till saturation to the mead or other fermented liquid you raise the boiling point of the water meaning you can extract more fuel and leave more water behind per cycle.
what temperature do i distill it
@@dnsm7381 250 F
Doesn't salt lower the boiling point of water?
@@Aaron-jv7pc No it increases it you can run the experiment yourself with distilled water and then salted water and remove all doubt.
@@Barskor1 Oh yeah, you're right. It lowers the specific heat capacity.
Interesting
(Takes notes for fueling military vehicles)
industrial use USP ethanol is very useful for a wide variety of uses from distilling alco soluable compounds to high performance compression fuels. Making it at home will prove to be an important off-the-grid skill
I want to make my own e85 or even higher ethanol ratings for high boost engine fuels
@@d_kortman be advised ethanol burns leaner and hotter than gas, you will have to use very high pressure injectors and watch for temps constantly.
@@CSLFiero what if you filter it down with petrol like similar to e85?
That's the idea, yes. those two mix perfectly without any additional addative or process, so anyone should feel comfortable with it. if you don't have the ability to run on 85+% ethanol, note that your gasoline car can probably run on a significantly more ethanol dense fuel than it's currently running with only a small uptick in heat. cars built in the last 20 years can be nudged up to 15% with almost no change, 20% might still run well. cars in the last 10 years can run fine with *double* the ethanol that is already in commercially available gasoline, but newer cars may not be as willing to accept the extra heat, so monitor carefully when pushing past 20%.
@@CSLFiero iv fitted a 1998 saab b204 to my 2007 astra vxr. It's currently running on e85. Sometimes even throw in some paint thinners for a bit of extra power. If I made what this person here is making which I have in the past could I basically mix it with a high octain fule like race fuel and basically run my car on it?
By heating the mead you vaporize the alcohol outof it. The water circulating in the pipe condenses the alcohol back to a liquid.
Vacuum distillation is way more energy efficient because you can lower the boiling point to 35⁰C. An electric vacuum pump (or maybe an used refrigerator compressor) energy consumption is a fraction compared to a burner.
If you want max efficiency (and I’d assume you do when making fuel) you would want two pool heating setups linked in series, a solar collector (evacuated tubes are the best) and a heat pump, coupled with your vacuum pump and a few PV panels and you could be distilling fast, efficient, and free (maintenance and brewing ingredients would be your actual cost after that, and since you get about 10years out of new panels and heat pumps it can get pretty cheap if you run it non stop for its life. Scalability is the issue here, need to be heating your home or fueling your transportation if you are wanting to go efficient.
Fractional distillation through controlling the temperature to separate what's in the liquid and then condensing it down. The temp rise's to show when it's now traversing to the next liquid and would contain just a little of that combined still because of both liquids in the transition. Always best to use a transitional beaker of some sort to keep the purity up between the 2 liquids that you can separate later. Hmm now were getting into what solids maybe in the liquids yet that's easier after the liquids are separated. Chemistry in highschool... Now how to turn a penny into a fake gold penny... Nice video guys.
what transitional breaker would you advice for? never heard of that before,very interesting. as are all this simple chemistries!
tfs
What would be the pressure in your pressure cooker
How much propane was used to make your ethanol
I am wondering too, actually
So nice! Watching this video I come to an idea to use a heat exchanger instead the pot. Like a chiller evaporator or condenser, with water as a second working fluid which temperature will be controlled to < 100°C and greater than ethanol evaporation temperature
It would be interesting to use the ethanol created to burn as the fuel that is heating the pressure cooker, then subtract out how much fuel was burned from how much was created and see what the net ethanol production is.
Even though its interesting, i would make the ethanol from solar panels -> when theyre making more power than your home can use
The pot would never absorb 100% of the energy the ethanol produced while burning,so you would waste a lot of it
You would not be subtracting the amount of fuel burnt [to heat] from that produced. You would be subtracting the [much smaller] amount produced from that used to heat.
I sealed mine with rubber grommets, and they worked well
Incredible! Thanks for sharing your project! If you can please share how you make your juice..
MAAAAN I don’t even get any of this but I love how this man took the time out of his day to show this information like damn bro I appreciate your help for your fellow people. Supporting you bruh keep this up 💯💯💯
Hes just essentially making moonshine. I've "allegedly" made it several times. His is a little complicated compared to what I've used but the principle is the same. He's using mead instead of mash in his pot. The principle behind distilling alcohol is that alcohol will turn to a vapor before water will under heat. If you keep the temperature at 172° you will get alcohol to flash off the product in the pot and once the vapors go to the top and exit to the heat exchanger he's made in the water also known as a coil or as shiners call it a "worm". The worm is surrounded in cool water which cools the vapors and allow them to turn into liquid alcohol
Wow you guys are awesome, mad respect keep it up!
What is inside the presser cooker & How to make that?
How can i use this to make e85 fuel for cars? Any help appreciated
I think e85 is made from 85% ethanol 15%gasoline
You mix it with gas when it hits 95% anything below won't mix with gas well
I. Wondering what would happen if I do this with used motor oil maybe would work similar
Awesome, noticed you were probably streaming this at the time. So great props for how it turned out, like doing everything in order and correctly while being live. Respect! And thanks, I already make wine, 15% but non natural yeast, and well fuels supposed to hit 6 nationwide by August soo this might be a required norm pretty soon.
My 2009 dodge truck is flex fuel capable... will it run on this without damaging anything?
Im studying e85 fuel but this is only helpful because of the fact the process is nearly the same just different honey wine if you know what I mean.
I was wondering: in order to distill the fermented mead, you have to put in some kind of energy, wether it is gas, electricity or whatever the stove works with.
Plus, fruit waste, sugars, etc. have their own cost. So, by the time you have your final ethanol, you need to subtract from its stored value, the cost it takes to make it.
You could come up with some numbers by using an avarage price of fruits, gas (or electricity), the amout of it you need to make how much ethanol you end up with.
Any idea?
This is high quality content. (Around 4K/12)
All of TH-cam is get my to learn how to take ethanol out of their fuel, and this guy is telling us how to make the stuff.
Thats how you make moonshine. Hard liquor. For ages we are making rakija the same way.
Your explain is so much easier to understand than those big green corporations
I am new to this, but it sounds so simple, at this first stage, but then you are using gas to heat your Mead why not use an everyday fireplace that we used to heat our homes everyday with this system refined built into it to produce larger quantities is there such a fireplace on the market that can do this or should I design one and put up a link
We use sugar, water and yeast in Sweden, then distill and pour the alcohol through a tube filled with activated carbon. Then it's just a matter of drinking. But it's illegal 😁
Very simple process but I really appreciate how much you went into the detail. People that make how to videos need to really drive in the basics even though it might seem unnecessary.
Oh this is going to come in very handy.. thank you
I like this alot, great video
Moi aussi je essaiye de fabriquer de l etanol avec des betterave a sucre
Reminds me on the show moonshiners lol. I wonder does the length you have the vapor hose running through the cool water effect how cool the water stays and/or how much burnable fuel you end up with?
What did you use to heat the mead in the pressure cooker?
great idea
Thankyou sooooooo much!!!
bro, how much energy and sources did you use to make this new energy source (metanol)?
Probably more than the fuel produced can release
But firewood and burnable stuff is plentiful in most places
@@JQ3B941 you could use a concaved mirror too
Doesn't look like high grade fuel distillation. You need a Fractional Distiller and molecular sieves. Wet ethanol is fine but you need to redo a lot of the car.
Could you or anyone here explain me the cleaning process of bio petrol please...?
How much volume is lost from this? Does one lose a pint gallon?
How many dollars per 1000 liters...
This is so cool. Do you have a published paper about this?
Good day sir/ma'am do you use yeast?
If I wanted to make 10 gallons of 100% ethanol a day how hard would that be? I'd like to make my own e85
Can we use fermented fruit for this?
Yes
As long as there is sugar the yeast will produce carbon dioxide and alcohol from it
I was curious to see the final ethanol produced but unfortunately video came to end without showing it.
How much mead to make a gallon of burnable fuel ?
so the bio fuel is volatile or not??
I cant get the list on above link. Asking for 3$,
why ?
Might add the importance of not trying to drink that after running thru that setup, you never ever want to drink alcohol that’s been thru a aluminum pot still. There are toxins released from the aluminum that are very dangerous
Not if it's under 1000°F
Complete nonsense
Do you NEED the pressure cooker?
No the pressure cooker is only a convenient sealed chamber to boil the mead in. once he put the hole in it for the condenser it lost the ability to build pressure in any significant quantity. You could substitute it with other items at hand as long as it 1.can be sealed, 2. Will hold up to the heat source and 3. Will hold up to the corrosive properties of ethanol. A thrift shop pressure cooker just hits all the criteria in a cheap package.
Is this legal to do at home
What fermented liquid is used in this?
He used mead which is fermented honey drink.
Interesting to say the least!
How can get the machine i from ethiopia which is africa countinet, sir
Thanks for the information.
That work against us alll. Love how he thro that in......
the water in the condensator should run in the opposit direction for optimal condensation, not in the direction of the flow of the hot gasses.
It does...
Absolutely !!!and that's the way it's suppose to be
FULL HD 4K
Input cold water at the other side please.
guys this shit slaps for drinking, i cna just sup a bit from the botlle whiel i poor, is chep and dont need to cost to buy it from the store because it stron aonly need small. make driving mor fun also
Yep we’re going to need this video more than ever rn 🥲🥲 F off Tesla owners 😂😂 unless you own shares if so good job..if not go buy some asap 🤣
lovely + interesting engineering . many thanks !
i guess ideally one could use an electric hot plate powered by off grid solar to heat the mead
could we use Kumbucha ???
That usually only has 0.5 percent ethonol so you would need a lot
Can you run this in your vehicle?
This method is okay, but one can easily extract water and ethanol from regular fuel via separatory funnel.
After the water and ethanol is separated, the water can be separated from the ethanol using simple distillation w/ light heat (70c) with no risks.
Water will evaporate at room temperature but that will take a very long time. This is about as anhydrous as you're going to get without a more advanced setup.
Awesome
Am keeping my flexfuel chevy for ever
I get it and completely love what you're doing, but to think that a large metropolitan area will be able to do this is simply not feasible. They all mostly die.
being able to make your own ethanol, methanol or biogas is a very useful skill when the world ends!
Interesting I thought ethanol gas was made from corn but I guess you can make it from Honey Wine or other elements amazing.....
Can I use PVC pipe?
No copper has significantly better thermal transferance properties PVC would not condense the vapers anywhere near as efficiently
You could for the outer jacket, but the heat may compromise the integrity of the pvc nearest the still & you might spring a leak. The insulation quality of the pvc would be better than the copper for retaining the cooling ability of the water though, as copper draws the heat from the outside as well as the inside. But your inner "worm" will have to be metal due to heat transfer for condensing, and copper is your best choice for that.
Damn im just finding out that prohibition was about selling gasoline and not people getting drunk, question everything your govment tells you!
I want to put it in the car hell yeah send me some and I can do the test
Gonna need this when gas pumps are phased out due to electric vehicles.
I am your new subscriber.
Nice and blurry video just the way I like it shaking the camera constantly is a good touch
But now your relying on the sugar machine?
I cant believe this is video released in 2018
I will definitely use this for fuel……. Nothing else
A certain percentage of each batch is methanol. Still burnable. Actually better fuel. But, that portion is a neurotoxin. That's what makes people go blind drinking moonshine.
There are ways to tell what portion is methanol and remove it. But, for fuel, you don't need to remove it.
i love that ,its should work with car with flex fuel ability
water is going the wrong way but its cool
That’s apple cider 😂
Your plants look like weeds in the mountains of Taiwan (:D
bought two book of ethanol making but like the video
Thanks for checking us out!
Anyone else like n..nooooo don't do that to the mead. Use something else!
What's the point of making ethanol for environmental reason or save money your using propane
This makes you self-sustainable. So you're not reliant on a hardware store to purchase petroleum-based fuel.
the propane is just a means of boiling the mead, you could substitute that with anything that gets hot enough to boil alcohol, electric, wood, or waste heat from other equipment even. Alcohol only has a Boiling point of 173.1F as apposed to waters Boiling point of 212F you could use a solar system to charge a battery and run the whole thing off a repurposed coffee maker coil if you had the means.
ever heard of a grommet?
Now to get a license for distilling alcohol
Now that I've seen the video, it's probably better with an Omega One hydrogen engine adapted for propane in a hybrid car using sodium batteries.
ah 360p we meet again
The cost of the fire (fuel), needed to make bio fuel, is already not worth it. Probably need free wood to make that even feasible
Without the airlock on your fermenter jar… you will make acetic acid (vinegar). Vinegar is Latin for Sour Wine.
A weed eater repurposed to a bicycle engine that runs on ethanol. Call it the Hoochcycle.
One does not simply make fuel with mead