Summary: -Explosive and Cryptid Slayer ammo boost your gun’s damage by 10%. -However, they also ignore the 20% and 50% damage boosts from the Weapon Specialist class. -The Engineer +4 explosive damage buff is a 2x damage multiplier, but it only applies to select explosives. See 6:40 for the list.
Eric Barnes, you are a LEGEND my man. Great information and explanation. Looking forward to more of your Extinction content if you're still at it nowadays.
I play with Incendiary ammo. Back when the game was at its peak I was always told in lobbies etc. To switch to incendiary ammo, saying it’s the greatest so I use it now
After watching this video I did some testing of my own. I went on Awakening solo at regular difficulty, stuck some mammoths with sticky flares, and began shooting them in the back with a VKS with an Ark attachment and Cryptid Slayer Ammo. First test, my Weapon Specialist was at level 3 and it took 28 shots from the VKS to kill a mammoth when shooting for their armor. Second test, Weapon Specialist was at level 4 with the 50% more bullet damage and it also took 28 shots to kill a mammoth.
Hi Eric! I've a story for you that you might find interesting. Seeing that you are a speedrunner for Extinction, I took it up as a private hobby some time ago and had a lot of fun. Once I was running Nightfall and got into the final boss arena with the Breeder and softlocked because I went too quick and missed a trigger. It was an unintended skip! What happened is some time between the final hive in the lab (possibly the second last one?) and the beginning of the boss fight, the wall that the Rhino breaks through to open up the boss was already broken. I didn't see it happen nor know how it was done. It was a shock to me but I decided to seize the moment! So I decided to hop on in to the arena before the last hive was done, thinking I could get an 'instant trigger' on the Breeder coming down to save some time, but it turned out to be a softlock because you have to hit a waypoint trigger at the broken wall in order to progress the game to the boss stage. So, because I went on through the broken wall before the final hive finished and thus missed the broken wall trigger, Archer never drove out of the level, the Breeder never came down, and I was stuck there and couldn't get back up. It was just an empty arena, with a waypoint back at where the broken wall is. My theory as to how it happened, again this is just speculation because I am dumfounded as to how it happened and have not been able to replicate it since, is I did use a Hypno Knife on a Rhino while on the last hive or so. My thought is the Rhino went to chase some cryptid outside the level and then came back through the wall, thus "breaking" it before the actual Rhino wall-breaker does. This is a total shot in the dark and probably was just a dumb stroke of luck, and honestly is really impractical for it would only save 1 second or two on an actual run. I've scoured many other runs of the map on TH-cam and haven't found another instance of it happening. And I'm not sure how to break the wall another way, if it's possible another way at that! Perhaps there's plausibility in the skip as well but who knows. So, it just remains a story of mine. Thanks for reading and I wish you best of luck out there in your future runs! You got good content and I look forward to what's next!
That’s really interesting, thanks for sharing! While I’ve never seen anything like that happening before, I’m honestly not very surprised that it happened on Nightfall out of all the maps because it’s the only map I’ve had the Rhino spawns bug out on. A few years back, I was playing ‘Ultra-Hardcore’ Nightfall (playing a hardcore custom match by yourself), and I didn’t see a single Rhino in the 3rd area until halfway through the 2nd to last hive when I got ambushed by 4 infinitely respawning Rhinos. Thanks to the PS4’s gameplay recorder, I was able to get it on video and uploaded it here: th-cam.com/video/d2ljqLN6xc0/w-d-xo.html. I have no idea why this happened, and I haven’t ever been able to replicate it. More recently I had another run that didn’t spawn any Rhinos in the 3rd area (until the wall-breaker), but for whatever reason it didn’t lead to the infinitely respawning Rhinos. What I think might have happened to you is that the Rhino’s spawn queuing got messed up, as it seems to do on Nightfall for whatever reason, and the game accidentally spawned in the wall-breaker during the hive instead of a normal Rhino. The soft locking due to waypoints seems to also a pretty common thing in Extinction. I was playing around with console commands in the modded Ghosts client on my laptop, and I managed to jump over the entire map during the Point of Contact escape sequence. I got to the extraction point immediately, but the game wouldn’t let me escape until I went back to where the second meteor falls to trigger the helicopter’s voice line (that video is here: th-cam.com/video/KuO35Q3lX9s/w-d-xo.html). Also, I tried using the turret glitch to clip through the gates during the Awakening escape sequence, but it seems that it doesn’t spawn the extraction circle in until you have destroyed the gates with the cortex, so I got softlocked there as well (here’s the clip: th-cam.com/video/Ed7slfx4WQI/w-d-xo.html). Thanks for your comment! I’m probably going to take a break from the Point of Contact speedruns though, because the RNG is slowly driving me insane lol. I’ve got some more stuff planned for before I head out to DCI move-ins in late June, and I’m pretty excited to get that updated spreadsheet out to y’all!
Wait that happend to me recently to where i could just jump down the stairs and got stuck lol i thought it was intentional since i wasnt done with all hives
I played with Incendiary for the first time in a long time as a +4 weapon specialist diehard. I could definitely notice the damage improvement from having the CS ammo turned off, but even with the new information, I still find it hard to say no to CS ammo. That combination of Arcing Stun + incendiary is vicious.
Side note, if you’re double class with Medic and Weapon Specialist, it seems like they cancel each other out to make you do average damage up until you upgrade to the final +4 skill point level. So your best bet is to never upgrade to the last point. You’ll only be missing out on movement speed, all map health regen, and smaller gunshot spread which isn’t bad at all for a seasoned Extinction player
I always prefer incendiary as well just cause the dot saves ammo. Easier to get gun challenges does cause the dot counts as the gun kill. I personally don’t like explosive to begin with.
Currently saving for this on steam pc, CS is crazy I know with all the added bonuses with the high grade and so on. It was very unfortunate to see this video. Though I am still thinking about getting it because the game currently is solo or with a small group of friends now and days. It's our little community that enjoys good content even if it was a game that had lots of hate. I don't run weapon specialist I like running medic and tank or medic and eng. By the way I am subing, thanks for figuring out the age old mystery. Here is to hopping to see Cross our good friend that hid underground in another game!
its better to just stick to inc through all the maps cause if your on hardcore their is no tk damage so you wont be punished by shooting cryptids next to teammates unlike if you had explosive ammo or slayer ammo
If you have good accuracy then it would seem like AP ammo with weapon specialist is the way to go, otherwise CS ammo with another class supplemented with team boosters I think I'll be taking this approach from now on!
So if the cs does not take into account the bonuses of the specialist, it means that it is a bad ammunition for this class and if so, the specialist should use what type of ammunition?
You can still use cs ammo and specialist just not on maps that have bosses. It's still one of the best classes and can wipe the floor on large crowds of enemies. If you're using specialist and fighting bosses, don't upgrade to +4 class. If you don't want cs ammo or don't have it and still want that +4 class upgrade, use incendiary ammo.
This is some good info do you know any good glitches that the community could have some fun with. I remember back in the day a couple of people knew some good glitches but kept them secret from the majority of the community I wonder if anyone has figured some of them out.
I recently bought the final dlc and I will be getting double class and cs ammo, is it even worth it? I wanted to run cs ammo with weapon specialist and medic, thinking I would be an absolute murder machine or maybe even tank with one of the two other mentioned
When i play as a specialist I barely notice the difference as the Ark makes up for it. I mean if you think about it with specialist +4 you get 50%+ bullet damage, on top of that 20%+ of the cryptid ammo, and then like 40%+ damage and range with the Ark. That will make the specialist deal more than double damage which will be extremely overpowered, you already kill hunters with like 15bullets which is amazing but if that wasn't "nerfed" you could go an entire round without even reloading 😂
I recently got cod ghosts, I love the game and extinction mode, unfortunately, there's rarely enough people online for me to do multilayer with random in extinction
Very useful tips, Eric! What about the weapon specialist +4 upgrade with +4 stun ammo (with arching stum ammo upgrade?) It causes more damage with weapon specialist class?
I’m not entirely sure, but I think the amount of damage that the stun ammo lightning bolt does is a certain percent of the original shots damage, so maxing out weapon specialist would make it do more damage per shot.
As far as I know it doesn’t. The explosion and gas definitely don’t get the weapon specialist boost. I haven’t tested the damage of the initial impact, so it might but it’s not a lot of damage anyways.
He actually made the same mistake that I did. What both of us thought was the engineer explosive multiplier giving CS ammo a 10% damage boost turned out to just be CS ammo’s default multiplier. Whether you’re a Engineer, Tank, or Medic, CS ammo is a 10 damage multiplier.
Yeah, you’re gonna do way more damage with AP ammo and WS than CS ammo. In terms of damage reduction, CS ammo has the same effect on shotguns as it does on other weapons, but I think the impact is much more noticed on shotguns. Generally, people get shotguns with the intent of dealing as much DPS as possible, whereas they might not be as strictly focused on DPS with other guns, so the CS ammo damage reduction seems a lot more significant and impactful on shotguns. Also, I haven’t tested it out myself, but don’t think that the slugs make a significant impact to your range tbh.
@@EJBJEB123 I onced tested it too, and the thing is your range remains the same, but yeah since after i learned where is the rhino weakspot (mouth and eyes or what ever theses two you shoot) i started dealing insane ammount of dps meanwhile the remaining pellets goes to the armor or if the rhino is targeting a ally and i don´t want to get close enough to be pumped down by the rhino
Try it for yourself! Get +4 weapon specialist, and see how many shots it takes to kill a hunter with a P226 with explosive ammo vs with normal ammo. The normal ammo will kill it in fewer bullets, assuming you got all normal hit markers at the same range.
@@TheGhostLad1 It’s not that it does less damage when you’re using weapon specialist, it just does the same damage no matter what class you are. The 20% and 50% damage boosts you get from weapon specialist don’t apply to CS or explosive ammo
@@EJBJEB123 So I usually run Weapon Specialist and I am very close to being able to get Cryptic Slayer Ammo. Is CS Ammo more helpful than the Ark Attachment?
@@TheGhostLad1 I usually recommend getting master scavenger as my first bug armory upgrade, but since you’re really close to getting CS ammo, going for it first would be alright if that’s what you wanna do
Hey quick question. I just got back into the game and wanted to save up for crypted slayer ammo and double class. Is it worth getting CS and running another class? Or should i just forget about it and go straight for double class. Right now i use specialist class with armor piercing but im not opposed to using other classes. What classes would you say are best other than specialist, and would it be better to just use specialist instead of the other ones and just not get CS. At the moment im thinking i get double class first so i can do tank and specialist simply for the reload boost. I mainly play solo btw as its hard to find games
I would keep your current load out and go for double class first. Weapon specialist is my favorite class due to all the weapon handling and damage buffs, and medic is my second favorite because of all the additional survivability it gives you (speed, health regen, scorpion immunity).
@Moctezuma The CS effects of incindiary, stun etc: I wonder if they are lesser when used in CS than when used individually. I don't know if they are or not
@Moctezuma Never really used stun ammo before but have been using it recently it does indeed appear to be stronger when used individually. It's pretty effective as it buys you time when multiple cryptids are approaching
Hi eric im man face boi just wanted to ask how many teeth you think this one person got he had 8391 kills he did the drill glitch and had infinite grenade turret ammo
@@EJBJEB123 ohh ok yeah cuz i just unlocked it in the armory about 2 hours ago and i came across this video and felt defeated cuz of the grinding i did to get it for the tips u gave me and i sadly can’t post the gameplay because it’s more then 15 minutes long 😭 but anyway it’s probably impossible that they would fix it right because this game is old ?
@@spiritualezk8537 Yeah they’re definitely never going to fix this. You can change a setting in your PS4 to extend the video duration all the way up to an hour btw.
@@josephperales1848 Honestly WS is still the best class, I would just recommend not upgrading it to +4 when you have CS ammo. You can view this as a positive actually, since now you have 3 extra points to put into other parts of your loadout which is huge on hardcore
Not exactly, the weapon handling buffs from weapon specialist combined with all the effects of CS ammo make it a very powerful combination regardless of missing out on the extra damage. You have been getting the final weapon specialist +4 upgrade for almost nothing though
Really worth it if you aren't playing weapon specialist because CS is a 10% increase in damage over fire, stun, armor piercing due to explosive ammos intrinsic buff alongside all the other buffs the ammos combined have. Or if you are playing specialist you can save 3 points since the last upgrade is useless. CS ammo makes hardcore much more bearable skill points wise as a weapon specialist because of the ability to save 3 points for something else.
Summary:
-Explosive and Cryptid Slayer ammo boost your gun’s damage by 10%.
-However, they also ignore the 20% and 50% damage boosts from the Weapon Specialist class.
-The Engineer +4 explosive damage buff is a 2x damage multiplier, but it only applies to select explosives. See 6:40 for the list.
@Source Dasher drive.google.com/file/d/187KhCV5c01FsHW1rrrLOIJOIfGWjZK-W/view?usp=drivesdk
@Source Dasher You’re welcome!
@Source Dasher Yeah bro me too lol
@Source Dasher Yeah, that should be right. Assuming you aren’t using CS ammo, the multipliers will combine by simply multiplying.
Still slaying cryptids in 2022!
2023
Still playing in 2023
Me too, but matches are hard to come by
@@ghosthunter7258same here
10 years of Extinction Nov 5th!
Eric Barnes, you are a LEGEND my man. Great information and explanation. Looking forward to more of your Extinction content if you're still at it nowadays.
So, IMS or Mortar Strike as engineer then I imagine packs quite the punch you're at +4. Thanks the videos man, this is really informative.
I play with Incendiary ammo. Back when the game was at its peak I was always told in lobbies etc. To switch to incendiary ammo, saying it’s the greatest so I use it now
Reloading without weapon specialist makes me want to fart
Reloading the ameli without weapon specialist is like loading up GTA 5
Thank you for posting the link for my video.
I'm glad that this truth is passed on to English-speaking people.
Damn, I'm glad you're testing all that stuff, it's super interesting! Keep it up
After watching this video I did some testing of my own. I went on Awakening solo at regular difficulty, stuck some mammoths with sticky flares, and began shooting them in the back with a VKS with an Ark attachment and Cryptid Slayer Ammo. First test, my Weapon Specialist was at level 3 and it took 28 shots from the VKS to kill a mammoth when shooting for their armor. Second test, Weapon Specialist was at level 4 with the 50% more bullet damage and it also took 28 shots to kill a mammoth.
Hi Eric!
I've a story for you that you might find interesting. Seeing that you are a speedrunner for Extinction, I took it up as a private hobby some time ago and had a lot of fun.
Once I was running Nightfall and got into the final boss arena with the Breeder and softlocked because I went too quick and missed a trigger. It was an unintended skip! What happened is some time between the final hive in the lab (possibly the second last one?) and the beginning of the boss fight, the wall that the Rhino breaks through to open up the boss was already broken. I didn't see it happen nor know how it was done. It was a shock to me but I decided to seize the moment! So I decided to hop on in to the arena before the last hive was done, thinking I could get an 'instant trigger' on the Breeder coming down to save some time, but it turned out to be a softlock because you have to hit a waypoint trigger at the broken wall in order to progress the game to the boss stage. So, because I went on through the broken wall before the final hive finished and thus missed the broken wall trigger, Archer never drove out of the level, the Breeder never came down, and I was stuck there and couldn't get back up. It was just an empty arena, with a waypoint back at where the broken wall is.
My theory as to how it happened, again this is just speculation because I am dumfounded as to how it happened and have not been able to replicate it since, is I did use a Hypno Knife on a Rhino while on the last hive or so. My thought is the Rhino went to chase some cryptid outside the level and then came back through the wall, thus "breaking" it before the actual Rhino wall-breaker does.
This is a total shot in the dark and probably was just a dumb stroke of luck, and honestly is really impractical for it would only save 1 second or two on an actual run. I've scoured many other runs of the map on TH-cam and haven't found another instance of it happening. And I'm not sure how to break the wall another way, if it's possible another way at that! Perhaps there's plausibility in the skip as well but who knows. So, it just remains a story of mine.
Thanks for reading and I wish you best of luck out there in your future runs! You got good content and I look forward to what's next!
That’s really interesting, thanks for sharing!
While I’ve never seen anything like that happening before, I’m honestly not very surprised that it happened on Nightfall out of all the maps because it’s the only map I’ve had the Rhino spawns bug out on. A few years back, I was playing ‘Ultra-Hardcore’ Nightfall (playing a hardcore custom match by yourself), and I didn’t see a single Rhino in the 3rd area until halfway through the 2nd to last hive when I got ambushed by 4 infinitely respawning Rhinos. Thanks to the PS4’s gameplay recorder, I was able to get it on video and uploaded it here: th-cam.com/video/d2ljqLN6xc0/w-d-xo.html. I have no idea why this happened, and I haven’t ever been able to replicate it. More recently I had another run that didn’t spawn any Rhinos in the 3rd area (until the wall-breaker), but for whatever reason it didn’t lead to the infinitely respawning Rhinos.
What I think might have happened to you is that the Rhino’s spawn queuing got messed up, as it seems to do on Nightfall for whatever reason, and the game accidentally spawned in the wall-breaker during the hive instead of a normal Rhino.
The soft locking due to waypoints seems to also a pretty common thing in Extinction. I was playing around with console commands in the modded Ghosts client on my laptop, and I managed to jump over the entire map during the Point of Contact escape sequence. I got to the extraction point immediately, but the game wouldn’t let me escape until I went back to where the second meteor falls to trigger the helicopter’s voice line (that video is here: th-cam.com/video/KuO35Q3lX9s/w-d-xo.html). Also, I tried using the turret glitch to clip through the gates during the Awakening escape sequence, but it seems that it doesn’t spawn the extraction circle in until you have destroyed the gates with the cortex, so I got softlocked there as well (here’s the clip: th-cam.com/video/Ed7slfx4WQI/w-d-xo.html).
Thanks for your comment! I’m probably going to take a break from the Point of Contact speedruns though, because the RNG is slowly driving me insane lol. I’ve got some more stuff planned for before I head out to DCI move-ins in late June, and I’m pretty excited to get that updated spreadsheet out to y’all!
Wait that happend to me recently to where i could just jump down the stairs and got stuck lol i thought it was intentional since i wasnt done with all hives
I played with Incendiary for the first time in a long time as a +4 weapon specialist diehard.
I could definitely notice the damage improvement from having the CS ammo turned off, but even with the new information, I still find it hard to say no to CS ammo. That combination of Arcing Stun + incendiary is vicious.
@@weakestlink20 Yeah cs ammo is definitely better outside of niche circumstances like speedruns
Love the content. I still play extinction regularly.... been playing with some of your loadouts just for fun.
Side note, if you’re double class with Medic and Weapon Specialist, it seems like they cancel each other out to make you do average damage up until you upgrade to the final +4 skill point level. So your best bet is to never upgrade to the last point.
You’ll only be missing out on movement speed, all map health regen, and smaller gunshot spread which isn’t bad at all for a seasoned Extinction player
Currently grinding for that double class, good info to know since I was thinking about getting cryptid slayer next
Holy crap this is an amazing video!! Very informative and well done
this too 8 years to surface?!
great vid bro this is actually really helpful
I was wondering why the cryptid ammo wasn’t doing as good as I hoped
I’ve always used incendiary ammo but the fact this took so long to figure out is insane this is sooo useful
I always prefer incendiary as well just cause the dot saves ammo. Easier to get gun challenges does cause the dot counts as the gun kill. I personally don’t like explosive to begin with.
Thank you still playing 2023
Huh.
So weapon specialist is just for the reload time and ADS if you have CS.
Which you can just get from boosters.
Currently saving for this on steam pc, CS is crazy I know with all the added bonuses with the high grade and so on. It was very unfortunate to see this video. Though I am still thinking about getting it because the game currently is solo or with a small group of friends now and days. It's our little community that enjoys good content even if it was a game that had lots of hate. I don't run weapon specialist I like running medic and tank or medic and eng. By the way I am subing, thanks for figuring out the age old mystery. Here is to hopping to see Cross our good friend that hid underground in another game!
Such an underrated mode I still go back to it and get on that grind for a while I’ve been grinding for teeth lately
So... this means im better off switching ammo from Mission to mission, can you recommend wich ammo is the best for what mission?
its better to just stick to inc through all the maps cause if your on hardcore their is no tk damage so you wont be punished by shooting cryptids next to teammates unlike if you had explosive ammo or slayer ammo
I can reccomend armor piercing for nightfall
Watching this knowing very well I only play Tank solo and Medic in multiplayer lol nice vid
If you have good accuracy then it would seem like AP ammo with weapon specialist is the way to go, otherwise CS ammo with another class supplemented with team boosters
I think I'll be taking this approach from now on!
Problem is you can only bring one ammo type
@@edenhilton9682 What do you mean?
I use ap ammo but I feel like it just tickles enemies
Damn, I'm glad I just got the arcing stun ammo
So if the cs does not take into account the bonuses of the specialist, it means that it is a bad ammunition for this class and if so, the specialist should use what type of ammunition?
You can still use cs ammo and specialist just not on maps that have bosses. It's still one of the best classes and can wipe the floor on large crowds of enemies. If you're using specialist and fighting bosses, don't upgrade to +4 class. If you don't want cs ammo or don't have it and still want that +4 class upgrade, use incendiary ammo.
This is some good info do you know any good glitches that the community could have some fun with. I remember back in the day a couple of people knew some good glitches but kept them secret from the majority of the community I wonder if anyone has figured some of them out.
Good video I hope the bring back extinction soon and do you know if there are custom extinction map
I’ve been looking around in the ghosts modding discord server, and I haven’t found any custom maps sadly
Wow man great job can you do more . Like optimal ways to deal with bosses or mini bosses?
No promises as to when I get around to it because I'm currently getting railed by school, but I'll try to hit that sometime.
Still slaying 2023!
I recently bought the final dlc and I will be getting double class and cs ammo, is it even worth it? I wanted to run cs ammo with weapon specialist and medic, thinking I would be an absolute murder machine or maybe even tank with one of the two other mentioned
*laughs in mortal relic*
When i play as a specialist I barely notice the difference as the Ark makes up for it. I mean if you think about it with specialist +4 you get 50%+ bullet damage, on top of that 20%+ of the cryptid ammo, and then like 40%+ damage and range with the Ark. That will make the specialist deal more than double damage which will be extremely overpowered, you already kill hunters with like 15bullets which is amazing but if that wasn't "nerfed" you could go an entire round without even reloading 😂
I recently got cod ghosts, I love the game and extinction mode, unfortunately, there's rarely enough people online for me to do multilayer with random in extinction
Very useful tips, Eric! What about the weapon specialist +4 upgrade with +4 stun ammo (with arching stum ammo upgrade?) It causes more damage with weapon specialist class?
I’m not entirely sure, but I think the amount of damage that the stun ammo lightning bolt does is a certain percent of the original shots damage, so maxing out weapon specialist would make it do more damage per shot.
Does anyone know how much damage the mortar strike and trinity rocket do?
Still slaying in 2023
@Eric Barnes how much stronger is the mammoth than the rhino
He’s got like 1.38x as much health, hits a bit harder, can summon the hunters and can dig
@@EJBJEB123 that’s good to know cs ammo would be amazing if it didn’t ignore the 20% and 50% damage boost with weapon specialist
what does the weapon specialist buff affect? does it affect any strike package or equalizer?
As far as I know it only effects regular bullet-weapons, so just your pistol and the wall guns
@@EJBJEB123 thanks for the info
ive gotta ask if your using double class and have weapons specialist as your second class does the negitive damage still apply
Yeah
@@EJBJEB123 damn so this whole time ive been using double class and having weapon specialist as my second class ive been losing a lot of damage
Does the venom X get the damage buff from 4+ weapon specialist so would it do more damage than having the engineer 4+ ?
As far as I know it doesn’t. The explosion and gas definitely don’t get the weapon specialist boost. I haven’t tested the damage of the initial impact, so it might but it’s not a lot of damage anyways.
@@EJBJEB123 oh alright thank you
Thank you man
Still watching in 2023!
I wonder if the weapon specialist special is nullified by Cryptid Slayer ammo now
To this day it still does. It definitely feels weaker
MK32 only run sounds interesting
since 2014 I have been waiting for something like this, I have the truth, only to be frustrated :(
Yeah I don’t like that this is the way it works either, but I’m glad I was finally able to figure out what was going on
but i have to flex that i have it 😫
I thought Dychronic back in the day tested and found that the increase in explosive damage for the eng upgrade did effect explosive ammo?
He actually made the same mistake that I did. What both of us thought was the engineer explosive multiplier giving CS ammo a 10% damage boost turned out to just be CS ammo’s default multiplier. Whether you’re a Engineer, Tank, or Medic, CS ammo is a 10 damage multiplier.
Thx for the information
So in short, CS ammo makes shotguns good, but a ws bulldog with ap does more damage?
Yeah, you’re gonna do way more damage with AP ammo and WS than CS ammo.
In terms of damage reduction, CS ammo has the same effect on shotguns as it does on other weapons, but I think the impact is much more noticed on shotguns. Generally, people get shotguns with the intent of dealing as much DPS as possible, whereas they might not be as strictly focused on DPS with other guns, so the CS ammo damage reduction seems a lot more significant and impactful on shotguns. Also, I haven’t tested it out myself, but don’t think that the slugs make a significant impact to your range tbh.
@@EJBJEB123 I onced tested it too, and the thing is your range remains the same, but yeah since after i learned where is the rhino weakspot (mouth and eyes or what ever theses two you shoot) i started dealing insane ammount of dps meanwhile the remaining pellets goes to the armor or if the rhino is targeting a ally and i don´t want to get close enough to be pumped down by the rhino
Any chance you tested the damage increase between muzzle breaks and arks?
Yeah, actually. This video has all my most up to date stuff: th-cam.com/video/C9ErkpOqolo/w-d-xo.html
@Eric Barnes Legend 👌 thankyou for doing this
I legit was just grinding this game for cryptid. Now I feel like it’s worthless 😭 like why would I not just use incendiary ammo
@@carteradelmeyer1967 CS ammo is really good, just don’t get that weapon specialist +4 upgrade when you have it
Someone is saying that this isn't a proven fact yet, and that your testing the damages on ancient resistance inside of exodus.
Try it for yourself! Get +4 weapon specialist, and see how many shots it takes to kill a hunter with a P226 with explosive ammo vs with normal ammo. The normal ammo will kill it in fewer bullets, assuming you got all normal hit markers at the same range.
@@EJBJEB123 Ok I'll see. Btw should i get cryptid slayer ammo or double class? I have 256 teeth.
@@cynicamane187 Either one would be fine first. If I had to do it again though I would probably get double class first I think
So if I’m running Double Class with Weapon Specialist and another Class, should I still avoid upgrading the Class to Max?
Unless you really want the +4 upgrade for that class or the extended ability duration you don’t need it
@@EJBJEB123 I don’t lose damage though correct? Like the Max upgrade doesn’t decrease my damage does it?
@@TheGhostLad1 It doesn’t decrease your damage, you just don’t get the damage buff that you would get if you weren’t running explosive ammo
So Cryptid Slayer is great, just not when paired with Weapon Specialist?
It’s really good, but just not as good as you’d expect if you’re using weapon specialist
@@EJBJEB123 So does Cryptic Slayer Ammo do more damage when using other classes?
@@TheGhostLad1 It’s not that it does less damage when you’re using weapon specialist, it just does the same damage no matter what class you are. The 20% and 50% damage boosts you get from weapon specialist don’t apply to CS or explosive ammo
@@EJBJEB123 So I usually run Weapon Specialist and I am very close to being able to get Cryptic Slayer Ammo. Is CS Ammo more helpful than the Ark Attachment?
@@TheGhostLad1 I usually recommend getting master scavenger as my first bug armory upgrade, but since you’re really close to getting CS ammo, going for it first would be alright if that’s what you wanna do
Great video still love extinction
u got a sub bro, i can tell u know ur shit, exactly what i need so thanks man
Hey quick question. I just got back into the game and wanted to save up for crypted slayer ammo and double class. Is it worth getting CS and running another class? Or should i just forget about it and go straight for double class. Right now i use specialist class with armor piercing but im not opposed to using other classes. What classes would you say are best other than specialist, and would it be better to just use specialist instead of the other ones and just not get CS. At the moment im thinking i get double class first so i can do tank and specialist simply for the reload boost. I mainly play solo btw as its hard to find games
I would keep your current load out and go for double class first. Weapon specialist is my favorite class due to all the weapon handling and damage buffs, and medic is my second favorite because of all the additional survivability it gives you (speed, health regen, scorpion immunity).
So its still good to have Weapon Specialist at +3 with the CS ammo? Or is better to play another class instead?
so should I still get crytid slayer armor?
Yeah it’s definitely still very good, but not the best for every scenario
Does AP ammo do more damage than normal ammo?
Yes
It had always felt like CS ammo was weaker than AP
@Moctezuma Definately, but I wonder if the individual ammo effects are lesser when using CS ammo
@Moctezuma The CS effects of incindiary, stun etc: I wonder if they are lesser when used in CS than when used individually. I don't know if they are or not
@Moctezuma Never really used stun ammo before but have been using it recently it does indeed appear to be stronger when used individually. It's pretty effective as it buys you time when multiple cryptids are approaching
Hi eric im man face boi just wanted to ask how many teeth you think this one person got he had 8391 kills he did the drill glitch and had infinite grenade turret ammo
He got like 27-28 teeth probably
@@EJBJEB123 oh ok
So either ignore this information or stop playing extinction forever
damn so is CS ammo even worth getting now or is it still good?
I think CS Ammo is still good, it’s just no longer the obvious best choice in every situation
@@EJBJEB123 ohh ok yeah cuz i just unlocked it in the armory about 2 hours ago and i came across this video and felt defeated cuz of the grinding i did to get it for the tips u gave me and i sadly can’t post the gameplay because it’s more then 15 minutes long 😭 but anyway it’s probably impossible that they would fix it right because this game is old ?
@@spiritualezk8537 Yeah they’re definitely never going to fix this.
You can change a setting in your PS4 to extend the video duration all the way up to an hour btw.
is this game alive
Yes
So basically, weapon specialist shouldn't use cryptid ammo. I love using armor piercing as weapon specialist.
@@josephperales1848 Honestly WS is still the best class, I would just recommend not upgrading it to +4 when you have CS ammo. You can view this as a positive actually, since now you have 3 extra points to put into other parts of your loadout which is huge on hardcore
Jeez, so I’ve been playing weapon specialist for nothing
Not exactly, the weapon handling buffs from weapon specialist combined with all the effects of CS ammo make it a very powerful combination regardless of missing out on the extra damage. You have been getting the final weapon specialist +4 upgrade for almost nothing though
@@EJBJEB123 thank you! I wish more people played this mode
Yo anyone wanna run mayday on PS3 I wanna beat that one again.
Yeah man add me ps3 id: earibal
So not woth it then
Really worth it if you aren't playing weapon specialist because CS is a 10% increase in damage over fire, stun, armor piercing due to explosive ammos intrinsic buff alongside all the other buffs the ammos combined have. Or if you are playing specialist you can save 3 points since the last upgrade is useless. CS ammo makes hardcore much more bearable skill points wise as a weapon specialist because of the ability to save 3 points for something else.
You still play
Привет! Хотел спросить можно как нибудь купить зубы или приобрести обходным путём?
Играю на PS 4
Хочется получить хорошее оружие но для этого нужно 500 зубов !
2023 cryptid slayers?? Need a good squad that knows what they’re doing and needs the teeth or just wants back to back wins (ps5)
I've been slaying some recently
My psn is bketner if you wanna play sometime.
I’m EJBJEB123, feel free to add me