The logic of minors being in a NSFW community and trying to removing artists in the NSFW community is like minors going onto 18+ sites and trying to take them down...it doesn't make sense
As a Jojo fan, the fandom has me *REALLY* Questioning my own morals due to the content that they spit out when it involves Shipping. Like Yes, both sides have a few good points but both sides are also toxic in their own ways (The Pro-shippers for sometimes forcing their ship onto people who don’t believe or ship it and the Antis for being assholes about proving their points) and i’m just sitting there being “bruh.”. And it really gave me a lot of anxiety about Being a JJBA Fan, i don’t ship a lot of them because they’re in a special kind of gross (JonaDio,JosuHan,and Many Many more) but it always makes me ask myself “Am i a bad person for Not shipping things like these?” or “Am i a bad person for actively being against these ships?” It can get really stressful thinking about them. The Jojo fandom always had these mood swings about what to ship and what Not to ship, they even have blocklists for people not to follow or interact with who Have content like Pedophilia,NSFW of Minors,and Incest, I can REALLY understand why they make blocklists (because Some of the people who Do ship these are legitimately bad people). But sending death threats to people who ship these is just wrong. if anything, you could’ve just scrolled past it and ignore it. tl;dr the jojo fandom really be making me morally stressed and make me question if i’m a good person or not.
Ah the jojo fandom. The same fandom that accused me of being a pedo for shipping giomis and caused me to have a panic attack in the middle of class. Literally the most vile fandom I’ve had to deal with.
I have been wanting to watch jojo now I know to stay away from the fandom. I still wanna watch it since CDawgVA, Akidearest, The Anime Man and a couple of other anime you-tubers enjoy the anime and are not in this whole drama. Also many jojo fans that I have seen are also MHA fans and do the same thing with both the boy and girl students XD it makes no sense this is all not real people.
That like biggest problem with cartoon/anime/games artist I find on the internet, where people will get harass for a character being sexually and or the art style being different
you do your videos like you’re talking to someone that’s actually there and i love that... anyway i’m glad you made this and i hope it gains good traction!
Coming back to this video after getting into jojo, and honestly, yeah. These antis are weird and infuriating. I remember there was an artist that drew art of stripper Giorno on Instagram and they got death threats and comments accusing them of pedophilia. That was back in May I believe.
Yes! I love these convos! I definitely am making a Twitter so I can follow ya lol. I've been seeing all of these posts and such myself and it's just been odd and interesting listening to their cicular logic.
@@MineralGarbage It's disappointing tbh. I know our sect of fandoms has had a sense of pride being the ones to step up find the things that are dark and taboo(even though that most of the topic at hand is lewds) and being able to analyze them for the artistic expression it is. Hell, I was actively seeking these things out as a form of my own joinery of self healing at 13-let's not even mention that 13 is HELLA young to start delving into such explicit material, and I think that's where the line should be drawn. They're kids getting mad at things kids aren't supposed to be seeing. How we circumnavigate and solve that dilemma? I don't think there is a solution.
Remember puritans were first discovered in the 16th century and their views on censorship were so bad, people were executed for not giving into their beliefs. People are regressing to a primitive, dangerous ideology to protect a piece of paper and I genuinely find that unnerving. Tbh, I don't think age matters to them. Jotaro is younger than Konata Izumi or Mafuyu Hoshikawa(Smol girls, but over 18) and people still give fans of those characters crap for just liking em cause of their body type. People just want an excuse to police a fandom and only hopped on cause Jojo is a hot trend. They do not understand Japan's own views on artistic works and their laws(Cause a famed mangaka did get arrested for real CP). What's funny is that they don't even bother with real criminals. I go on Twitter and see maps on various posts regularly, where those same complainers during those times? I swear those people are just closet xenophobics. Also, Shoko Nakagawa is the Jotaro loving singer if anyone was curious.
The most irritating issue about this is that none of these "fans" take accountability to their own jerkassery despite they themselves don't even know what they're into in the first place. For this reason alone, artists like Sakimi-chan and others have to confront (jerkish) backlashes from the MOTs for almost everyday simply because they draw something *they* personally disliked.
"Don't Lewd this character! They're a minor!!" The minor in question literally beats ppl to death and calls his ma a bertch 😂 Okay on a serious note, ppl really need to keep in mind that any fictional media in general and its characters are NOT real and isn't hurting IRL ppl in any way... "Drawing fictional minors lewd means you're a pedo." Is the new "Video games makes you violent."
I agree that it's stupid that they are angry about underage characters. The thing about the jojo timeline is that parts 7-8 are another universe but anybody is allowed say they're drawing the character older. The thing about shadman is that he made a big change to his stuff so now he only draws what he actually enjoys instead of lolis
It’s so nice to see some pro-ship content/rants out and about on TH-cam. I’ve been curious about the infamous Jojo anime and manga because of all the wacky references I see to it on other TH-camr’s stuff. But after witnessing the discourse where the show/comic’s fandom collectively lost their minds and telling creators to kill themselves? What the actual fuck? Yeah, like the holiday song about how the Grinch stole Christmas; I’m not engaging with the story and its community with a 39 and a half foot pole. My only critique on your blog style video here is that, at least for me, it’s sometimes a little difficult to hear you with the music you picked for your background noise? Sometimes I had to replay a few parts because my goofy brain inadvertently tunes into the somewhat audible words being sung rather than what you’re saying. If you continue to make more stuff on this topic ((which you absolutely should!)) maybe try some of those free-to-use music tracks without lyrics?? Or maybe white noise like rain or wind or something?? I’m no video editor, but I just wanna give you my two cents real quick; and hopefully it helps you and doesn’t annoy you on accident.
Great job "K"!!! you seem to be most "alive" when ranting; while i despise needless, pointless conflict with irrelevant people, this type of cloud seems to follow your area of interest,........go with it, rant ON dear sister!!!! stay righteous, stay fair, stay just, and do YOU!!! there just might be an avenue for more content to get some youtube duckets. PEACE dear sister.
Oh god, I just finished the video and wasn't sure if you were aware but it gets even worse; back in January some JJBA antis on twitter pushed a popular artist (itsmieu, I think?) to attempt suicide over liking a ship *between 2 adults with a 5 year age gap.* Fortunately they're ok but they basically had tons of their supposed anti "friends" turn on them and publicly slander them for being a pedophile/for 'lying' to their fans and multiple death threats sent to their DMs. I'm 100% serious, and it doesn't stop there, after that I think 2 other artists or people who were kinda close with them(?) immediately after also ended up hospitalized because of antis, idk about one of them but I do know the other one didn't self harm but instead was hospitalized from the doxxing threats/death threats/harassment they were getting basically inducing something to do with a pre-existing illness they had via stress. ANYWAYSss tl;dr thank you for making this video cause we seriously need more people on youtube exposing these fancops for the awful people they are smh
@@MineralGarbage Yep, Mieu deleted most/all the tweets about it for mental health purposes I'm guessing but they had written some things about the whole ordeal and a lot of the antis involved were basically run off of twitter fortunately (lynxstorm 27 was one of them and idk if they personally harassed them but she wrote one of the callouts, if that username sounds familiar...? I'm not really in the JJBA fandom but they seem/ed like they were a semi popular anti on jojotwt at the time) so a lot of the details of it are gone but yeah, they really did that and people were fucking appalled
editing this comment because I now have completed the series and I think I can now give a fuller take. BUT OH YEAH, ANTIS FUCKING PISS ME OFF. Like how is fancontent any different from the shit that happens in the series itself??!!
Hey minors...i got news for ya.....you dont need to look at nsfw art because its for a specific target audience. I dont get the fact that children like them just wanna rag on an artist because they look at their site and see their prices and cant buy them. They usually bully artists so badly and some artists draw free art for them to appease them.that shit gotta stahp
Oh god what are you complaining about jojo bizarre adventure I’m in love with this series I don’t think it’s toxic a lot of people say they don’t like golden wind how can you like some of the seasons but not this one I like all of them
JoJo is the classic example on how popularity can bring in the wrong folks
The logic of minors being in a NSFW community and trying to removing artists in the NSFW community is like minors going onto 18+ sites and trying to take them down...it doesn't make sense
They JoJo community has gotten wild ever since the part 5 anime made it more popular in the west
Absolutely fucky that they go after artist drawing fictional characters but not real life predators(???).
As a Jojo fan, the fandom has me *REALLY* Questioning my own morals due to the content that they spit out when it involves Shipping. Like Yes, both sides have a few good points but both sides are also toxic in their own ways (The Pro-shippers for sometimes forcing their ship onto people who don’t believe or ship it and the Antis for being assholes about proving their points) and i’m just sitting there being “bruh.”. And it really gave me a lot of anxiety about Being a JJBA Fan, i don’t ship a lot of them because they’re in a special kind of gross (JonaDio,JosuHan,and Many Many more) but it always makes me ask myself “Am i a bad person for Not shipping things like these?” or “Am i a bad person for actively being against these ships?”
It can get really stressful thinking about them.
The Jojo fandom always had these mood swings about what to ship and what Not to ship, they even have blocklists for people not to follow or interact with who Have content like Pedophilia,NSFW of Minors,and Incest, I can REALLY understand why they make blocklists (because Some of the people who Do ship these are legitimately bad people).
But sending death threats to people who ship these is just wrong. if anything, you could’ve just scrolled past it and ignore it.
tl;dr the jojo fandom really be making me morally stressed and make me question if i’m a good person or not.
Good video! Thanks for talking about that nonsense with that instagram group chat. I remember the thing with ohnip's Nezuko art too
No problem! i like to stay in the know!
Ah the jojo fandom. The same fandom that accused me of being a pedo for shipping giomis and caused me to have a panic attack in the middle of class.
Literally the most vile fandom I’ve had to deal with.
I dont understand why it’s a huge issue. Yes Mista is 18 years old & an adult but there are 18 year olds who date people THAT ARE GIORNO’S AGE
The "moment" even happens in the manga/anime- like wth is their problem
I have been wanting to watch jojo now I know to stay away from the fandom. I still wanna watch it since CDawgVA, Akidearest, The Anime Man and a couple of other anime you-tubers enjoy the anime and are not in this whole drama. Also many jojo fans that I have seen are also MHA fans and do the same thing with both the boy and girl students XD it makes no sense this is all not real people.
That like biggest problem with cartoon/anime/games artist I find on the internet, where people will get harass for a character being sexually and or the art style being different
I gotta say this but
👏if you have to watch the show or search up the age of the character to call it cp it is not cp👏
you do your videos like you’re talking to someone that’s actually there and i love that... anyway i’m glad you made this and i hope it gains good traction!
thank you~ i just feel i gotta get the truth out
When you see a homophobic JoJo fan
"You're a walking contradiction!"
Coming back to this video after getting into jojo, and honestly, yeah. These antis are weird and infuriating. I remember there was an artist that drew art of stripper Giorno on Instagram and they got death threats and comments accusing them of pedophilia. That was back in May I believe.
Yes! I love these convos! I definitely am making a Twitter so I can follow ya lol.
I've been seeing all of these posts and such myself and it's just been odd and interesting listening to their cicular logic.
thank you and yeah this stuff has just been getting worse and worse for years
@@MineralGarbage It's disappointing tbh. I know our sect of fandoms has had a sense of pride being the ones to step up find the things that are dark and taboo(even though that most of the topic at hand is lewds) and being able to analyze them for the artistic expression it is. Hell, I was actively seeking these things out as a form of my own joinery of self healing at 13-let's not even mention that 13 is HELLA young to start delving into such explicit material, and I think that's where the line should be drawn.
They're kids getting mad at things kids aren't supposed to be seeing. How we circumnavigate and solve that dilemma? I don't think there is a solution.
Remember puritans were first discovered in the 16th century and their views on censorship were so bad, people were executed for not giving into their beliefs. People are regressing to a primitive, dangerous ideology to protect a piece of paper and I genuinely find that unnerving.
Tbh, I don't think age matters to them. Jotaro is younger than Konata Izumi or Mafuyu Hoshikawa(Smol girls, but over 18) and people still give fans of those characters crap for just liking em cause of their body type. People just want an excuse to police a fandom and only hopped on cause Jojo is a hot trend. They do not understand Japan's own views on artistic works and their laws(Cause a famed mangaka did get arrested for real CP). What's funny is that they don't even bother with real criminals. I go on Twitter and see maps on various posts regularly, where those same complainers during those times? I swear those people are just closet xenophobics.
Also, Shoko Nakagawa is the Jotaro loving singer if anyone was curious.
funny thing is you can switch out JJBA with ANY anime community and it would have the same effect lol
The most irritating issue about this is that none of these "fans" take accountability to their own jerkassery despite they themselves don't even know what they're into in the first place. For this reason alone, artists like Sakimi-chan and others have to confront (jerkish) backlashes from the MOTs for almost everyday simply because they draw something *they* personally disliked.
Tell it like how it is sister!
"Don't Lewd this character! They're a minor!!" The minor in question literally beats ppl to death and calls his ma a bertch 😂
Okay on a serious note, ppl really need to keep in mind that any fictional media in general and its characters are NOT real and isn't hurting IRL ppl in any way...
"Drawing fictional minors lewd means you're a pedo." Is the new "Video games makes you violent."
LOL Exactly!
I agree that it's stupid that they are angry about underage characters.
The thing about the jojo timeline is that parts 7-8 are another universe but anybody is allowed say they're drawing the character older.
The thing about shadman is that he made a big change to his stuff so now he only draws what he actually enjoys instead of lolis
He still draws lolis. Just not of real people lol
@@MineralGarbage I'm looking at his site and nothing recent resembles a full loli. The closest thing is a young woman in his joke comics
It’s so nice to see some pro-ship content/rants out and about on TH-cam. I’ve been curious about the infamous Jojo anime and manga because of all the wacky references I see to it on other TH-camr’s stuff. But after witnessing the discourse where the show/comic’s fandom collectively lost their minds and telling creators to kill themselves? What the actual fuck? Yeah, like the holiday song about how the Grinch stole Christmas; I’m not engaging with the story and its community with a 39 and a half foot pole.
My only critique on your blog style video here is that, at least for me, it’s sometimes a little difficult to hear you with the music you picked for your background noise? Sometimes I had to replay a few parts because my goofy brain inadvertently tunes into the somewhat audible words being sung rather than what you’re saying. If you continue to make more stuff on this topic ((which you absolutely should!)) maybe try some of those free-to-use music tracks without lyrics?? Or maybe white noise like rain or wind or something?? I’m no video editor, but I just wanna give you my two cents real quick; and hopefully it helps you and doesn’t annoy you on accident.
Thank you for your input! I appreciate it!
Great job "K"!!! you seem to be most "alive" when ranting; while i despise needless, pointless conflict with irrelevant people, this type of cloud seems to follow your area of interest,........go with it, rant ON dear sister!!!! stay righteous, stay fair, stay just, and do YOU!!! there just might be an avenue for more content to get some youtube duckets. PEACE dear sister.
Oh god, I just finished the video and wasn't sure if you were aware but it gets even worse; back in January some JJBA antis on twitter pushed a popular artist (itsmieu, I think?) to attempt suicide over liking a ship *between 2 adults with a 5 year age gap.* Fortunately they're ok but they basically had tons of their supposed anti "friends" turn on them and publicly slander them for being a pedophile/for 'lying' to their fans and multiple death threats sent to their DMs.
I'm 100% serious, and it doesn't stop there, after that I think 2 other artists or people who were kinda close with them(?) immediately after also ended up hospitalized because of antis, idk about one of them but I do know the other one didn't self harm but instead was hospitalized from the doxxing threats/death threats/harassment they were getting basically inducing something to do with a pre-existing illness they had via stress.
ANYWAYSss tl;dr thank you for making this video cause we seriously need more people on youtube exposing these fancops for the awful people they are smh
What the fuck?
are you serious?? they really did this to an artist??
@@MineralGarbage Yep, Mieu deleted most/all the tweets about it for mental health purposes I'm guessing but they had written some things about the whole ordeal and a lot of the antis involved were basically run off of twitter fortunately (lynxstorm 27 was one of them and idk if they personally harassed them but she wrote one of the callouts, if that username sounds familiar...? I'm not really in the JJBA fandom but they seem/ed like they were a semi popular anti on jojotwt at the time) so a lot of the details of it are gone but yeah, they really did that and people were fucking appalled
@@bisexualmajima SMFH i feel compelled to support her and the others now. thank you for the information!
And I thought a Bobobo-bo had the weirdest art style
editing this comment because I now have completed the series and I think I can now give a fuller take.
BUT OH YEAH, ANTIS FUCKING PISS ME OFF. Like how is fancontent any different from the shit that happens in the series itself??!!
Spoilers
Nara wasn't a year away from being 18, when he died in the series i believe he was less than a month from being 18
‘minors protecting minors...’
Minors aren’t allowed on adult spaces because mostly they don’t understand adult things, do they get that?
No they dont unfortunately
Hey minors...i got news for ya.....you dont need to look at nsfw art because its for a specific target audience. I dont get the fact that children like them just wanna rag on an artist because they look at their site and see their prices and cant buy them. They usually bully artists so badly and some artists draw free art for them to appease them.that shit gotta stahp
So they just... bully artists in their DMs over this crap?
PREACH IT
girl I died when you said Shigechi
Don't diss my boy. Shigechi x Kira best ship 😤
(This is a joke, please don't go after me)
Jojo fan here it was always toxic lol
The only thing I know about the JoJo fandom is that they post some mad cringe sometimes bro
Oh god what are you complaining about jojo bizarre adventure I’m in love with this series I don’t think it’s toxic a lot of people say they don’t like golden wind how can you like some of the seasons but not this one I like all of them
That's great. But in my personal experience it's bad as hell
MintySh1t oh yeah some people do make it bad for others I understand
yiiikes go off ig?
oh i did~
i blame the part 5 anime adaptation for everything wrong in the world
Yep its unfortunate but thats when the antis started running around
@@MineralGarbage it's also one of my least favorite parts so like... double negative 😔🤚🏻
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Love your skin! You cute yo! ^_^
Please u more 10 facts videos
Jo jo sucks
No
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