Checkout Charity: What happens to donations collected by stores? (CBC Marketplace)
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- Doing Good, Feeling Bad | Originally broadcast February 20, 2015
Some of the country’s biggest retailers are asking for your donations at the cash, even though many Canadians say they don’t like it. So why do companies do it? Who’s it helping? In Doing Good, Feeling Bad, we raise some big questions about those little charitable donations.
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The cashiers are NOT judging you if you say NO. They most likely don't want to even ask.
Lol, see the Dude Perfect video.
True. I just say no every time. We donate to the local schools and a few other things.
Yeah they’re forced to by their bosses
Coming from a retail employee who is asked alot by bosses to, yeah we hate doing it. Id hate to be in the customers shoes so regardless of the my boss's I don't ask
@@gurmanater +1
Cashiers want to ask you for donations as much as you want to be asked.
If they don't ask they could be fired or something, but its part of their job.
I agree
Provocateur No, because this is Canada. No guns...
The employer has no right to fire you for that reason... in Canada you get employement inssurance if that happens...
Yes Jacob, but they would prefer to harass you, feeling very confident about their harassing possibilities (That is what happened to my sister and my Daughter too).
I’m not even Canadian, and I’m watching all these Canadian Marketplace episodes.
You’ll learn A LOT from this show.
Same tho :)
saaaame lol 😂
Hahahah same
👍👍👍
I have been on both sides of this. I volunteer at an animal shelter and they have a program called pennies for pets. When ringing someone up, we ask if they want to round up to the nearest dollar and donate that to pennies for pets. I know every single cent of that goes directly to caring for the animals so I do not have a problem asking.
But for years I shopped at petsmart and used Banfield vets. I always donated to their vet fund charity for "owners in need".
Then one day I was dealing with a semi feral cat with signs of a bladder infection or blockage. Because she could not be handled, she needed to be sedated. The lowest quote I could get anywhere was for $400 just to sedate her. Any care or treatment would be extra.
So I called their vet charity for "owners in need" and was told a bladder infection was bot life threatening so they would not help. I explained that I would not know if it was an infection or a partial blockage (which can be life threatening) until she was sedated and examined. I also explained that if I could not get her care, I would have to have her euthanized because she was in pain and suffering. They gave me the same life threatening line and blew me off.
I now only shop at petsmart if I have no other choice and never donate to their charity.
Oh and the semi feral cat? I contacted the shelter I volunteer at to ask when I could bring her in and surrender her to have her euthanized so she would not suffer. Adoption to someone with more money was not an option. She can not be touched, is partially blind and pees on beds when stressed.
The shelter said it was insane that a two year old cat was going to be euthanized because I could not afford to have her sedated and be given an antibiotic injection. They did not euthanize her. They gave her the treatment she needed using money from their charity fund.
She is now 7 years old, still semi feral but happily asleep next to me in my bed. And over the years, I have donated way more than her treatment cost so that the next desperate person trying to help an animal no one else wants can get help too.
Kudos to those who take real care of animals like you and the people work at the shelter
*I also, have called a similar person charity looking for help paying a vet bill for an animal I rescued during a time when I was not financially stable. I was given a similar story that you were and refused help. I now don't shop there either, **_much less_** donate to them!*
😉 You do know that you're a good human being right? Good job! ✌️
@@bostjules6176 thank you.
Yes, never found out who the 'owners in need' were. They wouldn't tell me how many pets that year received money for their care. So, never donated to that.
I have no problem saying "No".
Derek Charette monster
Betty Dunn
Same here. I don't feel pressured, embarrassed, guilty or anything else for that matter.
Same
your the type of person that makes others feel guilty when they say no without knowing why they said it shame on you
Lol, neither do I. It's real easy. Just pucker up and say no.🤓
These companies never say this money is from our customers. They always have their name on the big cheque with a photo op. They are doing it for the free publicity, not for the love of charity. It is for the halo affect!
And probably a tax writeoff
And a tax write off. And in some cases there’s the fine print of “giving up to x amount” so what happens to the money after x amount is met? Nah son, I volunteer and donate all the time directly. If they cared, they can do it on their own
That really irritates me. These greedy corporations mislead into thinking that they are donating their own money. TOTAL LIES! CUSTOMERS SHOULD NOT DONATE TO THESE COMPANIES.
That's true. i never thought about that part.
Exactly
"i already donated thanks" works everytime everywhere everyday
So does "no thanks" if you're confident enough that you don't feel the need to justify how you allocate your money.
Cashiers don't care, trust me.
Saying no works too. At 57, I refused to be forced to do anything I don't want to.
@@travelnomad2128Apart from that one time with Fred West eh... and the Chloroform...
Asking for donations in cash whilst throwing away food for not being sold before expire date. Amazing.
I live in England and have never been asked to donate at a checkout. But you do get people mostly hanging around the exit doors asking you to sign up to monthly donations.
I guy asked me 3 times yesterday in the same store. I actually already donated to the charity. But it actually made me cancel my monthly donation.
@@Leanne_w In England u dont get asked for a 20 percent tip either...
@@Leanne_w I have been in the same situation. I was stopped outside my local supermarket I felt I could not refuse and then a few months later I cancelled. I can fully understand why you cancelled.
The poor cashiers are pressured by managers to do these "programs" they are assessed daily as to how many donations they get and berated when they don't. The managers don't take any of the flack at all just the poor cashiers that absolutely hate it.
Zellers was even worse with their credit card pushing. Cashiers actually had a quota for the number of people they were supposed to convert every shift.
I work in a shop that sell reusable bags for an extra £2 and it goes to charity we have targets for them, get 0 bags sold in a week (considering i only work a 4 hour shift a week) you get pulled into the managers office for "training" when really they compare your targets to someone who works full time 30+ hours a week then say "well if they can do it you can"
You should tell them that your quota from now on will be 13% of the full time employees since you only work 13% of the hours
I worked at Ross in Florida and hated having to pitch for donations. Because if you took too long on checking someone out, even when you had to ask for donations, you get a lower score and then are forced to take training as if you were the problem...
Why do stores do this? Do they have an ulterior motive? What do they get out of it? If these stores want good publicity, why don't they just write a check to the charity, instead of asking their customers to foot the bill?
The cashiers don't know the details. It's annoying enough having to ask people for donations when you know most people don't wanna be bothered.
+MEGACORP Domain Your statement doesn't make sense, try again.
Hey, Troll, get lost and leave the girl alone.
Either be constructive or get ready to get reported for the harassment.
+MEGACORP Domain Then explain to me why I have had many adults (many that are adult men) complain about it. I once had a customer spend 30 minutes yelling about how it was corporate pan handling and we should be ashamed of ourselves. This adult man (in his 40s, I would estimate) decided to yell at the minimum wage employee when the company actually put the donation question on the debit pin pad. We weren't even verbally asking for money, it was on the machine, yet he decided to take it out on me like I made the decision to do it. So, no. Not just "teenage girls", all people. In fact, it is mostly younger people who donate to the charity. Nice try though. :)
I just called the one for the store that I work for. Left a message (closed today) asking them to explain their budgeting structure.
their job is on the line
.and more and more companies are doing it its hard to get away
CEO of charity foundation makes 700k a year and 2.7 million as send off.
Wow hypocrisy at its best !!!
Yeah, think of how many people have to donate per day just to pay the CEO's salary and bonuses. And then all the other board members...
CEO of Goodwill makes millions and executives make six figures, this “non profit” has all these stores I’ve been into a couple and have the audacity to charge $15 for a Nike shirt that is tattered and stained 🤮
WWF works the same way
United Way CEO makes a cool 1 million plus perks. I will NEVER and I mean NEVER give them one cent. They can KMA
I read the best charity in terms of low CEO wage is Salvation Army
I can’t believe Indigo makes the school buy books for them , I’m shocked . I donate every time they ask me and I’m a big believer in donations but this tactic is wrong.
Its really scummy. A sales tactic disguised as charity. Funny how greed works huh?
It's like how those charities making wigs for kids who lost their hair, sell the wigs for thousands. Even those the hair is all donated
Call me a cold hearted American but If i want to donate to these charities than I'll just donate directly to them.
esteban, you miss something. the business pays hired help US$11 per hour. then the entire US$1 to 2 can go to the charity.
Esteban blank They use most of the money to pay for their taxes, great work
Exactly.
That doesn't seem cold, smart perhaps.
The Managers hide in their office and make the under paid cashiers do the dirty work. I just say no and go about my business.
So Indigo structured the 'charity' such that the donations turn into profit for Indigo..... That should be illegal.
what god biggest charity rip offs are religious institutions
KevintheBooth Excellent point! There needs to be a Petition Drive to collect the Signatures to Stop this kind of Profiteering on the backs of the Charities! It is immoral!
Either Stop collecting or allow the Charities to purchase at any place of their own choice! 'No Strings Attached!'
Plus the tax break
Teej sure its ‘free’ money to get books BUT that money can get you say 500books at a ‘used’ book store OR 100books at Indigo. PLUS the ‘FREE’ money they are spending is money that customers gave that then end up being ‘donated’ so that Indigo can get a TAX BREAK PLUS make a profit off of it. Its really really bad that they are doing this. And sure the school gets ‘Free Book’ but they could get MANY MORE, plus a better selection if they had an option on where to buy.
@Teej "free" money doesn't exist. The company makes a huge profit out of that 1 million dollars. I guess about 90% at least of that goes to company's profit and 10% or less go to the writer and production costs.
I usually donate directly to the charity....just a personal preference. ;)
You're still a sucker. Sorry.
I don't feel bad at all. I reply, "No, not today." I give to my own charities.
So, when the store says they donate, what they really mean is that they donate someone else's money. They themselves aren't donating anything?
I've always wondered that. I bet it's coded.. Like if the company says "Raised x money" they mean got money from other people.
that's right. they pass on donation money from the customer.
I really doubt this because then that would 2 people get to claim deduction for charity donations
Mike M Claiming you donated money that you received from someone else would be tax fraud Unless you first reported that money as taxable income in which case it would be a wash what is so hard to understand about it it is common sense you don’t get to deduct a donation that someone else made whether they took the deduction themselves is irrelevant
Walmart had been great of actually matching donation numbers. But you can always look up the way the money is being handled. If it's shady then don't donate. If they have a 'dollar for dollar' cap don't donate (It's usually miniscule compared to how much in total is actually donated)
if you feel shame for saying no or humiliation like this doc suggests, just say "ive already donated today thanks" works like a charm
Chris Barreira Or ask the cashier to donate on your behalf
Chris Barreira I actually really like that...
+Matt Vella Me too!
+Chris Barreira Yea I'm a Team leader at a Grocery store and I cashier from time to time. People say that all the time but its obviously a cop-out..
We open at 7 AM and sometimes at 7:10 AM the first day they say I already did that.. People just straight up lie. I really hate asking tho cause I to feel like its forced and the companies must get tax breaks or something..
+Chris Barreira Or simply yet don't go outside.
When I worked as a cashier, I always dreaded when I would have to ask the customer to donate.
I remember telling a cashier "No thanks" Then he tells me in a condescending way "It's for the vets." Like my first refusal was not enough. I reported him. Now I saw I already donated.
I would have no issue donating to the checkout charities if two things happened... first if more information was provided on how those donations were spent. And Second if the store I was making a donation for matched it out of their own pocket. As a Lower Middle Class Canadian if I can afford to donate $2 or $5 at the checkout, a company making billions of dollars should have no issue matching that donation... and yet I have never seen this offered at any store that does these things.
+Robbie Vapes - Exactly right, if they were matching donations dollar for dollar that would instill a lot more consumer confidence. After all, you are ALREADY making a purchase to be asked to donate in the first place, so why can't they just make a small adjustment in profit & REALLY stand by their scheme rather than just using it to ensure further business via the Halo Effect.
yeah, exactly. the donation i give to always gives out the same amount out of their own pocket as the amount that they get, so that the people who recieve the donation gets twice as much as people give. :)
what do you want each cashier to go on a 6 page disclosure before buying your groceries?
why should you give to shits, just say no and go on with your day
Robbie Vapes great point
I worked for a company called CRF, Charity Resource Foundation, who would make cold calls for donation charities. What I learned there during my employment was SHOCKING!!! Most of these well known charities out there today are just taking the money and lining the pockets of the CEO's!!! I am very careful about how I give now and only give to people and churches directly. I try to cut out the middle man!
Generally the argument these less efficient charities use is utilitarian (that which does the greatest good for the largest number of people is the most desirable). They use marketing firms, celebrities, expensive CEOs, etc as ways to expand their reach and get donations from a greater number of people than would be possible if they did not invest resources in these things. 1 cent out of every dollar given is a larger number when you have 10 million donors. Its a much larger number than 90 cents out of every dollar given, but only 1000 donors.
Of course, the argument holds up only if dollars going to the less efficient charity are not dollars that would have otherwise gone to a more efficient local charity. If they are getting donations from people who would not normally donate, then they are doing good in spite of the very high overhead.
That said, I want the money I give to do as much good as possible, which to me means as much as possible goes to the actual cause. So I do not give to high overhead charities. I'd rather fund the cause than fund some rich guy getting richer.
I worked for feed the children canada. Every dollar we collected 90 cents ended up in CEO and workers pockets. Mostly the CEOs
You hit the nail on the head about the checkout charity fund raising. For me, it is more like being AMBUSHED at the checkout counter for charity. How many times would I love to have stood in a store line and announce that I am a public school teacher (which I am) working at a high poverty school (which I do) and would truly appreciate someone buying that pack of/or erasers, pencils, plastic sheet protectors, ream of copy paper, pack of lined paper, colored markers, etc. that is in my cart!!! There are millions of teachers this applies to around the world.
Over the years, someone notices and asks me IF I am a teacher, and they actually buy the supplies! It lights up my day and faith in humanity when that happens (it is rare). It is an act of kindness that impresses a soul to believe that what they do is important, valued, and appreciated.
I have changed to stores to the ones that don’t do it!
I think it’s as invasive as telemarketers and now refuse to donate to any of those organisations
Same
I'm a cashier and the only reason I feel comfortable asking customers for donations is because our drive (which last for one month out of every year) goes 100% directly to food banks in our town. Even still, it's uncomfortable having to ask at every transaction!
But at a CVS (I'm from the states by the way) I learned that by activating a loyalty card I was automatically enrolled in a program that rounded my purchase up to the nearest dollar and supposedly donated that money to charity. I didn't know until a cashier kindly told me that it was a total scam! Only a tiny fraction of that money, he said, makes its way to the charity. The rest goes to the CEO's pockets!
the second sunrise Walgreen's did the same thing to me! they asked me *one time* if i wanted to round to the nearest dollar & donate my change that day, the cashier said nothing about it automatically signing you up to keep donating. i finally figured it out after my next 2 purchases there were even-dollar amounts. that's such a sneaky thing to do. theres a difference between 15 cents and 98 cents...the customer should be asked everytime, or at least made aware of what they're being signed up for.
have you seen the movie swordfish??? thats a bit like the worm virus in it goes around grabbing little fractions from all the transactions that dont add up to whole numbers and since there are trillions of transactions the fractions add up to billions and its money the system doesn't notice as missing! whoever developed that loyalty card should be in jail for fraud. tho the master mind was likely a fuking senator or something
What's worse is while some charity drives are more for the company to make money over helping, they get staff in on it. Such as offering rewards to the staff with the highest amounts. And no offense but its doubtful 100% goes to charity, even if it says it. Example in the past charities to feed hungry children would say 100%. But only a fraction was donated. Or what about religious charities? Same thing. Best way to donate is to donate directly. However make sure it's a reputable charity. As there are charities that will misuse donations as well.
Donations from normal everyday people is totally unnecessary as these enormous companies and chains could donate double and not even notice it. Disgusting!
true
So 90% of the donations at the book store go straight into their revenue? wow
Checkout Charity: What happens to donations collected by stores? we dont know.. great vid
Simple, the store should match each donation.
ABSOLUTELY. MATCHING DONATIONS.
That’s such a great idea.
GREAT idea!
They likely wouldn't because their bottom line is to make money, PERIOD.
Say the foundation had raised $5 million, do you really think the business is gonna donate that much? Rarely would a business ever do that...
The most ironic thing about most charities...high paid employees, fancy modern buildings and private kickbacks to high end management.
Tell me...exactly where is this money coming from to pay for this?
The money people are donating.
Lastly, and most importantly, these large companies who support these charities get a massive bonus when tax season comes along. Massive tax breaks, rather they admit it or not.
+Eric Durant Not to mention the owners of the charities make a killing, driving around in luxury cars and such.
+Eric Durant Most ironic for me - these companies with billions $ can ez pz donate this million $ ,they use more $ to light parking lot ,but no - they poke you to give 1-2 $ for there PR... How nicer world was b4 all that marketing sht... And yea - dudes car cost half of charity $.That's why I never donate to any charity organizations ,they all lie ,they all take most of collected $ - just to sit in the office and ask you for more $$.
That's actually inaccurate. Most charities, of the thousands registered in Canada are small with only a few staff members. Moreover, all of their financials must be reported to CRA to maintain their charitable status.
stores with checkout charity, like my employer, are required to give all of the donation to the partner charity.
Sam Sitar but the charity itself doesn't send all the money, it takes it's own cut
I’m a cashier and we also hate when they have charity events. We don’t like asking it more than you like hearing it. But supervisors watch us and make sure we ask every single customer.
hmm I'd just say ”I like to donate in my own name” if asked.
no need to have the store take credit for collecting the money.
To the people with rude responses, you've obviously never worked retail. We're forced to ask you. We also aren't going to judge you if you say no. When I judge people who don't donate is actually when they're rude to me. Just say "no thanks" and move on. Being rude to the staff who, as I said, is FORCED to ask you just makes you a jerk.
Although there is nothing wrong with asking the staff "does this money all really go to charity?" I've had that question multiple times, and I can actually say "yes", because our store does canned donations that go directly to a local rescue…I've seen the lady who runs the rescue come in and pick them all up.
So true
You are the face of that company so you will take all the hate from customers... deal with it or find another job.. This is actually funny... you are forced to ask ..should i also feel sorry for you now..
While I wouldn't be rude to anybody unless they were rude to me first, nobody is forcing you to work retail. You're welcome to seek higher paying positions if you have the skills.
Cassandra Look, I'm not gonna tell you find another job. That's rude too. But you represent your employers policies. If you get a little hate for a particular policy, you need to tell your management, not us. We know. We are doing it because we do t like it. You have to pass that along. Otherwise you boss goes through life like this manager bozo who imagines everyone loves his policies.
So freaking simple. Are you going to send them the money for college? Or what if they have a learning disability? SMH, not everyone is the same. SOMEONE has to work in the store silly or who would be there when you need to go buy something. Use your mind.
Doesn't that same sick kids hospital charge its own patients for outrageous parking prices?
Lil' Connor Peterson it’s called the front desk could give you a sticker for those who are actually in the hospital duh
Yes they do marketplace done a video on that to.. but it's in the name of sick kids.. i will donate but only to RMHC Ronald McDonald House Charities.. ive seen first hand what this organization does and how it helps family.. i also donate directly to IWK grace children's hospital in Halifax again because I've seen first hand what they do for people. I will also give what i can to my local Turning point for adult homelessness again because i have family that work there and i see first hand what they do and how they help.. also the priest who volunteeres there new my grandma longer then ive been alive im 33 and she had been dead now for 20 yrs.. this same priest done my grandma funeral at no cost so i can only imagine what he does for the homeless
@Lil' Connor Peterson you could easily refund actual patients if you wanted
I would donate for Sick Kids any time.👍
I've had to go to sick kids multiple times and if you don't have the extra money for parking they will give you a voucher if you have a child in there sick so you don't have to pay. Even if I had to pay for parking thats not the worst thing and I don't mind helping that hospital in any way
Why would I ever trust these corporations to not just pocket my "donations?" I never cease to be amazed how many people will answer yes when asked to donate a dollar at a dollar store.
More than 4 years later I viewed this video, and after I came up with one question. That is, Why are these Charities still around asking for donations, even after a country has created a health care system that is fully funded by your tax dollars?
Good point!
What's wrong with collection boxes instead at the tills? That way the customer can donate and the poor employee can be spared the embarrassment
They do that at self-checkouts here, and come to think of it I've seen them at full-service lines too. Nobody asks you to donate. Some people put their spare change in.
Credit cards.
Because there's more pressure in donating when the cashier asks. A lot of people do not want to look like Cheapskates in front of other people, despite not knowing them.
Nikki D they don’t care of employee feelings but they believe that confront customer will lead to more donation.
Yes they should, in the UK we don't have cashier donation. In fact I never heard or knew it existed until this video
What a perfectly engineered scam. Donations are asked in very small amounts, no tax receipts, and perceived public shame if you say "no".
Exactly. It should be STOPPED.
@@mitchhills4747 no
You bet, “just say no”, that’s what I do.
Can you make a story about the donations to Value Village? I'm been hearing stories it is a for-profit organization.
Just google 'Value Village, scam'.
Prepare to be shocked.
I saw a jacket with the original price tag still on it. Original price was $99.99. Value Village price was $189.99. when I asked about it, the worker ripped off the original tag and said "oh look... Only 1 tag now..."
What a scam. Indigo takes in millions in donations each year, gives out grants to schools for books, but demands that they ONLY buy books from Indigo...and pay the retail price.
In a way, the customers are buying books from them for the schools so it's no big deal, if u were the founder or ceo of the company you would want the same thing
+Richard Voltigous I disagree..why wouldnt they have the option to buy books cheaper else where? It'd be like sony saying if you donate to bla bla bla sony foundation, we'll give your school money to buy video games for the kids to play during breaks...but only Sony games...so we make a profit. Basicly they're allowing them to buy the books and make a smaller margin than they normally would, but they still make a profit.
It is a scam because the store guarantee that all the collected money is going back to their bucket so anything you donate is not gonna leave their account.
+suvariboy - Scam is right, they are giving money with the proviso that it must be returned to its own coffers, it's a frickin' shell game. A better scheme would be to let any consumer (regardless of purchasing anything in-store) just donate any unwanted books to their local store. Why does it even need to be a new book to be useful?.
Well the owner is a bilderberg member.
I love charity and I love to give. I have no problem with which ever method that charity company choose to use. What I do have a problem with is the fact that majority of charity money do not go to charity. It mostly go to CEO's pocket, marketing and barely any to the actual charity itself.
The statement makes perfect sense. I'd be upset if I gave $10 to charity and found out $5 went to marketing, $4 to the CEO's pocket, $0.90 to other overhead, and only $0.10 to the actual charity. Fortunately, with the internet, I can research a charity and find out exactly where donated money goes.
The fire and police department hire a non for profit fundraising company and they take 80% of every dollar you donate.
That book charity is absolute crap. For every dollar donated they get $0.90 back to their store. So if a book costs $10 they’re basically selling the book for $9 because of the 10% that goes toward events. Thus if that book costs the store $5 to buy they’re still making $4 off of charity. Sure you’re helping schools but you’re also funneling that charity money into your business for profit. It’s bs.
If they sold the books for the price the store gets then it’d be different.
I used to work at Food Depot and they forced us to ask for donations. It was humiliating..... because it’s like begging for money and when you don’t get enough donations than it’s almost like your pimp saying I’m gonna beat you or in my case fire you for not bringing in my money 😕
I never donate at the store. If I want to donate I do it on my own and to what charity I want too.
there are a thousand people in my community and family that can use my small donations much better than a huge company can. why do people think it's necessary to give your money to billionaires to distribute when you can literally walk down the street, give a dollar to the first human you see, and probably do much more good that way
exactly we don't need to give through the store. why doesn't the store donate.
mnguyea How much have you donated so far?
Charity Fact: Most charities are a scam. Too much money goes to the corporation instead of the people they are claiming to help. "Ted Garrard, chief executive of Sick Kids Foundation, whose annual salary is $400,000 plus up to $100,000 as a bonus." Do your research before giving money to anyone.
SteveSabbai
That's why my mom have discouraged me to donate to charities years ago. It does make sense!
I say help locally to people you know need it. Also, help in goods, not in cash.
charity organization paying bonus wow... one side they need money to help people and another hand they waste money in bonus ......
SteveSabbai so true . A charity is a business corporation and very little goes to the cause that they use to raise the money in the first place . So I never donate money , goods to charity shops yes as I consider a fair exchange .
Charities do require hiring people to manage the funds properly. It may seem like greed on the surface but a lot of charities are poorly managed.
Charity is a gr8 business. You don't pay the taxes and people love you for being caring for others.
The shot/scene/view of the Canadian Tire Jumpstart Foundation logo at ~9:50 reminded me of the song "Jumpstart", performed by Canadian musical outfit These Kids Wear Crowns! Effective imagery and filmmaking, and a fascinating, relevant, important, and interesting content subject topic! Bravo, CBC!
I stopped donating to charities a long time ago after I found out that only 20cent for every dollar was actually ending up as the donation . These charities are business that run for profit and in most cases are tax exempt. You do better donating to a school , church , soup kitchen or homeless person.
190055joe That depends heavily on the charity. Many reputable charities solicit donations separately from foundations and corporations to cover their management and staffing and operating costs. Then when they ask you for donations, it goes ,90-100% to the target of the charity. I'm not sayba ng they are all run this way, but many are. On the other hand, phone solicitors are notorious for calling us asking for donations and keeping 80% as their cut. This is something legal so long as they give 15-20% to the charity.
Yeah there are some websites that rate how well the charity uses the money
As others have said, do your homework on the charity. There are websites that help you see how much of your money actually goes to the cause. I generally give to ones where at least 90% goes to the cause.
i used to work for a rotary club in Russia. I highly doubt even 5% of donations actually reached the target. We would have international conferences with hotels and food and all these speakers and all these ideas, and in the end our project would be to like go to an elementary school and teach them english for a day
The reason people work in charities is not because they want to help people, its because charities are fun as hell. I smashed dozens of girls there, we got wasted all the time, travelled, and we all felt like we are morally superior to everyone. Being in a charity is like being in the army: you connect with people. This is why so many young people love to join them. Its like a sorority club
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190055joe
It was discovered almost two decades ago that money being collected for Starving
and homeless children in Africa by a certain (and well-known) Charity, was only forwarding
seven cents from every dollar raised.
When this matter was investigated and organizers were required to provide an explanation
their response was that the children in Africa did not need much as their life-style was
very basic.
NONE of these charities will make available by any means a certified forensic audit of
their activities. Neither will scammers.
So I ask the intelligent people, What is the difference between the two?
please keep in mind the employees who are asking you have no say on whether or not to ask you. having worked years in retail, I can say that you're constantly being hounded by managers and other higher ups to ask customers to donate/sign up/give an email. and you're reprimanded if you don't. oftentimes you aren't given more information on a charity than who it goes to and why. I understand confusion and anger but it isn't fair to direct it at the cashier who probably makes minimum wage and knows just as much as you do.
You must rise up! Create a cashier revolution! In fact, you can send me donations to fund this change!
on the flipside employers pay their hired help. charity donations do not.
Riley Lauren P!ease keep in mind that you represent your management and any flac we give you is meant to be delivered to them.
Try telling your managers you don't like the flak from customers and see how long you work there. They are probably getting targets from hq and they get roasted if targets are not met, in most retail jobs the attitude is 'if you don't like it here, go work somewhere else', most management don't care as they have people queing up to work in the shop.
That's messed up that a company can accept donations from the public then give those donations to a school but force that school to buy from that company at full retail price.. the company 100% profiting.. It's still helping kids in a way but yet it still making those shareholders and/or whoever owns that business a lot more money not only that but the recognition for doing what they're doing so it's all win win for them yet they're literally doing nothing except for taking the donations because they have brick and mortar stores which any business can do without making a profit.. Thank you guys I got a look for American version of this as this Canadian one is freaking awesome
I am a numbers girl. Charities and corporations in cooperation should be required to be fully transparent along with the CRA. And all of this should be federally regulated with Ethical guidelines. A Deacon at my church made it very clear we can refuse all public solicitations and sales for fund raising, we rely on our church family and our church financial group to vett these charities which may be worthy and ethically within our principals for donation. For if we donate our resources, we are providing them resources and granting them permission to continue to operate. We must not link our selves with that we do not want associations with. Many a politician have seen the reprocussions of those poor decisions.
A plain "no" suffices. So essentially Indigo gets back the money they've solicited and actually makes profit from it. Very underhanded. When millions of dollars was raised for Haiti after an earthquake in 2010 most of the monies went to administrative fees and people continued to live in tents instead of rebuilding buildings for them to live in. And most of these Charities you haven't even heard of.
So bad
I was at Big Lots the other week when the cashier was asking people to give to Children's Hospital. When my turn came I asked her " Why would they ask for money for a for-profit institution?" When I took my son to that hospital, there was nothing free. They use the ploy of "It's for the sick kids" to tug at your heartstrings and guilt if you don't give!! We should boycott stores that engage in this practice I try to.
At one point in my life, I too had to ask customers if they wanted to donate to a charity. The biggest people of advice I’d give, would to respond by saying ‘no thanks’ if you don’t want to donate. Because, I experienced people rudely responding with ‘no’ to voice their displeasure with the practice. And, as much as I didn’t want to ask, I had to because not asking would negatively impact my performance review.
I've worked at stores that require us to ask for charity. We get written up if we don't ask, we are paid minimum wage and we are highly overworked. When they introduce these charity donations we ourselves are given very limited information and we do our best to answer questions but we honestly have almost the same reaction as you
I just say "I already donated yesterday, thanks"
lol
Just grow a pair and say no. Good Lord.
Why harassing the poor cashiers? They're underpaid and overworked already! If they want to keep their jobs, they have to ask. Just say no when you hey do ask and go on your merry way! Geesh! Smh
Very true
JAchica11 maybe a good company with a sound foundation should train their cashier to answer those questions too
They arent underpaid, they have no skills, thats why they are cashiers
Define "Good company"
Because for most people a good company is the most profitable one, or has the cheapest prices, or provides the most value to the consumer in the long term.
Cashiers having extensive training and being knowledgeable about their products is over. They are there to deal with the consumer and make the most amount of money for the company at the cheapest price. Giving them extra training would require higher pay and they get along just fine without it.
JAchica11 The "poor cashier's" are the ones harrassing the customers!
I used to work at a pet store and my boss pressured all the cashiers to repeatedly ask for donations from customers. I hated doing it just as much as the customers hated being asked. At one point, I just stopped asking because it slowed down the line. As a result of my "poor performance", my boss slashed my hours to one or two days per week.
I used to work retail where we were told to ask the customer if they wanted to donate. I avoided it as much as I could because I hate being asked that when shopping
If only they put out a little donation box so there wasn't pressure to donate. It would also make you look like a kind soul instead of a stingy grinch since you'd be donating of your own free will instead of having to turn it down.
I work as a cashier here in the US and we are forced to ask you. Don't feel so special. We don't want to ask you as much as you want to answer us.
I'd work on some sentence structure if I were you. You're special.
@Angeline D
With all due respect, there's probably a reason he/she works as a cashier
I remember in my younger days nuns would come into bars and ask for donations. I always felt like this was a clever tactic but I never gave them anything.
A nun walks into a bar... and asks the priest and the rabbi for a donation.
I rather give my $2 to a homeless person on the streets before giving to these charities
give them food rather than 2 dollars, most will spend it on drugs. food they can eat.
i wouldnt, theyre homeless because theyre drug addicts who cant stay in the shelters or free housing because theyre irresponsible
They’ll spend it on drugs or alchohol a lot of the time. However not all shelters are open to homeless because they have limited recourses and capacity
@@RywokastDarkstar5000 very judgemental in my opinion. You never know everyones story.not everyone is on drugs becuase they wanted. There are many other reasons rather than just bringing it upon themselves.
@@ajoaayebo6752 i dont care for their reason, the reason they resorted to drugs instead of anything else is because theyre weak.
Wow Indigo is 100% scam!
And that's why I stopped donating money without investigating the charity and the company that pushed it.
It's a win-win for Indigo.
All of that free money they collected goes back into their pockets and it's perfectly legal.
I expect to see that method catch on here in the US.
Not exactly. Schools are credited with a percentage discount on the things they buy, roughly 30% if I remember correctly. As far as I know it's all 100% of the dollar to donation.
@@akkiko they literally said they have to buy at retail cost, not discounted.
@@rakgi I'm speaking as someone who witnessed those transactions.
all charities are this exact same scam especially church and religion
"it's in our DNA"
Spare us the planned and canned lines. Jeez.
Canadian tire had 12.9B of revenue. All of the time they screwed customers around asking for donations turned out $5 million. It'd be easier for them to just contribute that themselves and put up a sticker saying they did it. And a lot less annoying to customers.
I've been a cashier at two fast food chains, luckily they both had donation boxes and didn't make us ask customers. Working at that first job made me realize there's no accountability over those donations...at the end of the shift the Manager empties the donations, they are the sole person to know how much was donated, and at that first job one of four owners (family owned franchise) was always there, they handled the money, so there's nothing to stop them from taking a big percentage. As a customer I just simply say no when asked. Why feel embarrassed, ect..?
I asked questioned one time, to a Cashier who asked for a donation and she was very defensive of the practice, certain all the donations went to the need, so I don't ask anything anymore. If they try to embarrass you, tell them something like; "I make donations by check and only after researching the charity".
As someone who worked in retail for 15 years I have to mention the amount of pressure cashiers are under to ask. Anywhere from management setting up competitions between colleagues in store and against other stores to penalizing you by cutting your typical hours after a bad week. Unofficially of course. It was just coincidence that during times where less hours were available the associates with more donations (and EVERY place I worked was the same for store credit card applications [maybe do an episode on that if you haven't already, I haven't gotten through all of the Markplace episodes yet]) got more hours or better shifts.
Quick tip that works well for any pushy donation asking. Say you or a family member already did give earlier. Or, if you don't feel comfortable lying, say not today, than leave. It is honest but it leaves the road open at the same time. Don't let yourself be guilted into it. When you find a cause that speaks to you, donate your time & money.
I came to Canada to study and may be get settled and living at mere 700CAD a month was hard and always felt forced to pay for the charity as I thought it was for good cause as I know that there are people who cant even get stomach full of food every day. Although, I was always worried about where the money would actually go.
I actually met a lady in a mall who had set up a booth for charity, it was for girls education in Africa but when I asked how much would actually reach them she said 40% and rest went to administration and after doing some research I found out that the trustees of the organization were living lavishly and I suppose that 60% administration charges was for their high salaries.
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The big box stores should definitely request a supply of information leaflets and/or info cards from the respective corporate-supported charity receiving the donated funds from the kind customers at the participating big box stores to provide to store cashiers to distribute to donors (willing store customers). Heck, these retail mammoths could probably successfully arrange a custom printing of promotional materials containing the official logos of the charity, as well as the retail big box store! The printed materials could also show examples and/or a brief summary of what the donation will help support/how the donated funds may possibly be allocater. That is the type of practice that should be the standard these days. Please step it up, y'all!
How hard is it to just say "NO"!
Is sport a necessity? Why should I donate my money so some kid can play sport?
so he can finally make his dad proud.
It's call entitlement and first world problems. No one should feel comfortable 'begging' others for money let alone million dollar corporations.
dandyboykb n No child should be denied the opportunity to participate in sporting activities based on lack of income.
I know it's late but damn what a hateful comment. Not having the money was a big reason I never played sports in school. Having someone provide what I needed would meant a lot to me.
What an ignorant comment.
I work as a cashier and it really isn’t a big deal if you say no. If you don’t want to donate, that’s fine!
I hate asking customers to donate just because I know that it can seem like a pressure, but I know if I don’t ask, I get in trouble by management and if I don’t get a donation for a few minutes, I’m not a good worker and I need to push for it more. (However, I just ask once)
I think donations are nice when it’s for a good reasoning, but don’t ever feel pressured or feel bad about donating.
If a customer says no to donating when I ask, that’s what they want to do. No worries!!! It’s their life!
It’s very annoying too when you have to ask customers for a donation andddd to sign up for a credit card. I hate putting pressure on people like that, but if we don’t ask those things when we are checking you out, we can get in trouble. At least for me.
We have one for a local children's hospital in my town that we collect for a couple times a year and I know they get it because they post the thank you letter from the hospital in our break room each time.
The absolute best questions to ask is what percentage goes to the organization in question. If they cannot give you a straight answer then DO NOT give to them.
But who do you ask? Most of the people asking for donations are the minimum wage employees that are told from their managers/head office what to say. I bet that most say "100% of proceeds go" which would be great, but please don't expect these employees to know. If you want to know, talk to head office and choose to donate later.
actually if they cant tell you or wont tell you how much the organization gets then their call is illegal and they are breaking the law. they legally have to tell you anything you want to know about the organization. There is a script you have to follow as an employee at a tele-sales/donation company.
my employer has signs that say "we give 100% of each donation to each charity we work with".
if that is true then that is a very good tele sales company, and I would work there for a long time if I was you. It looks good on your resume if you work with great companies like that.
I used to feel guilty if I didn't say yes, but I just stopped doing it and it feels great. I usually cut them off before they're finished;
"would you to donate to--"
"nooooo thanks"
Only one I donate to is the Sport Chek one because they give you one of those squishy stress balls if you do.
***** Charitable donations decrease your taxes :)
***** Even the US government is more effective at helping than donating to charity.
***** Completely agree. Better off donating to someone local, there's always people raising money for a family with a sick kid or something, better off to give them money directly and skip the bullcrap.
+BlyndSDragon I like that one.
+BlyndSDragon Amazing response!
I have always donated for sick kids and many times it was more than $2. I am happy to realize they really get the money. I am not at all embarrassed when asked. I say yes to all actions regarding kids or hospitals. I always wondered what happened with the money. Thank you CBC for letting me know. And not only I am not embarrassed but sometimes I am really happy I am offered the opportunity to donate a little money.
I thought healthcare in Canada was “free”
Europe has free healthcare not Canada lmao
xxbrooklynxx 6ix9ine so does Canada.
xxbrooklynxx 6ix9ine i’m canadian.if you’re a citizen we all have free basic healthcare
Basic care is free, some things cost more.
That's only a half-truth. Things such as medication, dentistry, Ambulance rides, and psychiatric care are paid mostly out of pocket. In fact, many Canadians pay for private healthcare plans through companies like Blue Cross.
When I worked in a grocery store we were FORCED to ask people if they'd like to donate, basically the manager said we need to at least make X amount per week on donations or we'd get "written up" and if you tried saying something they'd find grounds to fire you, so of course no one spoke up and some of the cashiers would never get donations so they'd have to buy the X amount to keep from being written up. So I actually get where the cashiers are coming from, but I don't donate unless I've researched the organization and see that they do in fact give back at least 80%
+Moses Yang yeah .. seemed like it..in the video .. they are forced to ask ..certainly there is some cut for the store
@@CodeXNDWhen reading this comment i was thinking the same thing . Why would a store put a quota on something that is not benefiting them directly.
I give BIG TIME to charities through my church. They all have been vetted and I'm comfortable giving that way. When they ask me at the checkout counter if Id like to donate...I say "I give through my church". That shuts them up and its the truth.
The cashiers are the wrong people to ask. Ask the store manager. Don't keep everyone waiting.
Very Good subject & report
Indigo has got quite a racket going with their "charitable" works.
I worked as a overnight cashier in a gas station for 3 years and I was threatened to be fired if I didn't ask every customers to donate to our "charity" program or to upsale junkfood and lottery tickets
Depending on the business, checking out comes with :
* entering your phone number
* upgrading a store card
* donating to charity
* promoting store deals
Very few is it ring up, pay, walk out.
I remember one where I was asked if I'd like to donate to feed the hungry. I quickly stated I'm one of those hungry, so does that mean I get a donation? Keep in mind I was barely making it, and some days I couldn't eat. As rent, bills piled up, etc. She gave me such a dirty look when my reply was honest.
Places ask so much extra of you than they used to. I wouldn't be shocked if they put video screens on the carts to play ads as you shopped.
This method of charitable collections is DUBIOUS at best.
And how much does the CEO of Sick Kids foundation get? forget it .
+jsilence418 Don't be so rude! He also donated 1 $ for sick kids from his 500.000 $/year ,now you can be sure your donation belongs to a very honest guy... donate 10$ next time. :)
zCATAHAz How silly of me how right you are,the man is the soul of generosity...uh yeah.
+jsilence418 I think they were sarcastic.
+jsilence418 He gets 2.1 million and that too from peoples donations.
+Rs S who gives a crap
The only donation I give at checkouts is for Woodstock, Ontario's Food for Friends program. It's not a food bank. It gives $25 cards for those living in poverty to buy non-taxable items. (no junk food or cigarettes.) It's far more useful than food banks and there is no "Middleman."
But does it take your $25 donation and buy a $25 gift card for $25 and give it to that person?
At least food banks get a discount on the food they buy (yes a majority of it is free I suppose) There is always a middleman unless you bring it straight to the recepient
2Awesome That's right. No money for the charity
That sounds alright, but there's nothing wrong with foodbanks either.
FDJustin They're absolutely terrible. They take the onus off of government to act on hunger, they provide junk food that makes people sick. It's a completely unhelpful response.
You don't think the hungry should be able to enjoy a bit of junk food along with the other stuff? If they take the onus off the government to act on hunger, then so too does your food for friends program.
I love these kinds of shows.
Why not the company brand owners give a percentage of their profits on each sale to charity. It is the humble consumer who is always being squeezed for more.
the store owners should donate all their retail items that the poor really need.
Just another way for corporations to get tax credits on the customer's dime. I only give if the company is matching and/or they can provide me with a tax receipt.
TdotSoul Agreed the big companies get the tax break for doing so, the family owned and smaller companies get next to nothing. Meanwhile the purpose should be solely for giving to the ones in need, yet it ends up being the tax break for the wealthy large companies.
TdotSoul you can't get a tax break if it's not your own money but rather a customer's the only exceptions are companies like Indigo that have their own charity whereby they will get profits and or monetary kickbacks from the charity
But I guess that's assuming the company is truthful about the source of the money.
we need to be able to ask questions, even if we are taking the risk of 'offending' someone. Society need to connect again, in the real life, not just by sending an emoji , gif or an email as a reply.
Thank you!
I am just like Samantha. I used to feel guilted into donating at check-out, but now I have no qualms about saying no. I have three organizations that I give to regularly because I know and agree with their missions. Once I'm done paying off my student loans, I'll be in a better place to give to other organizations that I believe in.
in my country it's illegal (i think) to ask, but they have boxes for spare change.
I used to work for LCBO and I hate that they made us ask people for money. Most of us don't didn't like it but were forced to do it. That was the most BS part of that job. I hated making people uncomfortable by having to ask them for money.
Good job and very informative