Why Do We Use Radians in Calculus?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @harrymills2770
    @harrymills2770 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes. It all goes back to h = angle = arc length, when you use radians, in the derivation of the proofs of the derivatives of sine and cosine. In degrees the arc length corresponding to angle h is s = Pi*x/180.
    I always just mumbled something about "radians and arc length..." when students asked. *sigh*

  • @JohnSmith-rf1tx
    @JohnSmith-rf1tx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice demonstration. I had one question though. At 17:57, you're dividing through by h*cos(h). And you mention that as h is small and positive, this is fine and the inequality signs aren't affected. But the actual limit we're interested in is h->0, not h->0+. I.e. we want the whole limit, not just approaching zero from the positive side. So, it's important that we also look at h->0- isn't it? My impression is that since you're using a geometric argument in the proof, and a "negative angle" doesn't really have meaning in that context, maybe this isn't actually an issue. Is that right? If you allow for "negative angles", I think you might have to start over with the areas and have the relevant areas of the sectors including the absolute value of h instead of just the naked h. I'm sure the end result is the same, but a mention of why we can just ignore the small, negative h case or how it is dealt with would be better than no mention.

    • @PlymUniMaths
      @PlymUniMaths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good question: from the odd property of the sine function, we see that the ratio sin(h)/h is an even function. Thus we can look at the limit for h +ve and know we'd get the same result for h -ve. Hence the geometric argument suffices.

    • @JohnSmith-rf1tx
      @JohnSmith-rf1tx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PlymUniMaths Thanks. That's a very straightforward way to deal with it.

  • @anilmishrassblintercollege9460
    @anilmishrassblintercollege9460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent,sir why we use radian in inverse circular function

    • @PlymUniMaths
      @PlymUniMaths  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same reason really. If you want the derivative of arctan(x) to be 1/(1+x^2) you need the angle defined via arctan to be measured in radians. (Think about using implicit differentiation to obtain the result.)

  • @engineeringcore2024
    @engineeringcore2024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can i ask? Do limits must be in radian mode? like sin 0.6?

    • @engineeringcore2024
      @engineeringcore2024 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is different when i used degree mode

    • @PlymUniMaths
      @PlymUniMaths  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Changing the units to measure angles changes the scale on the x-axis. It thus stretches (or compresses) the graph horizontally. Limits depend upon the angle measure used. Eg, the limit as x->0 for sin(x)/x is one in radians and is pi/180 if you use degrees. Hope this helps.

  • @ankurgoyal2151
    @ankurgoyal2151 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question in calculus and that i never the got answer and searched online also but couldnt find satisfactory result. What does limit at infinity actually mean please help me when can find limit at a certain point this make sense but when limit at infinity what does this actually please tell.

    • @PlymUniMaths
      @PlymUniMaths  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dear Ankur, Limits are treated rigorously in analysis but here is a quick response. You can't be at infinity - which I think you recognise. Instead ask what happens to a function as the dependent variable becomes larger and larger. For example, 1/x will tend to zero. It is not zero for any finite value of x but gets smaller and smaller as x increases. We say that 1/x tends to zero as x tends to infinity. On a graph the x axis is a horizontal asymptote.
      Similarly x/(1+x) will tend to 1 as x tends to infinity. (You can rewrite it as 1/(1+1/x) and, as x tends to infinity, this approaches 1/(1+0)=1.)
      Hope this helps.

  • @Pgan803
    @Pgan803 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would mean more if you can demonstrate why using "degrees" would go bonkers compared to using "rad" in a real world application eg Sniper Bullet leaving the barrel.

    • @harrymills2770
      @harrymills2770 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It'd only mess you up if you're taking derivatives, and then the conversion is relatively simple:
      (d/dx)[ sin(x) ] = (Pi/180)cos(x) if you want to use degrees, by the Chain Rule, and the conversion of x to radians inside the sine, via the factor Pi/180, giving you the Pi/180*cos(x*Pi/180). Convert back to degrees inside the cosine: Pi/180*cos(x), when x is in degrees.