#FIXHIMNOW The buffs shown in the Semrah fight are not real. Internally, they are always being registered as permanent buffs which can only increase until a max of 6 stacks regardless. That number was never able to decrease. "Dispelling" these buffs does LITERALLY NOTHING beside temporarily removed the buff icon (the effect ALWAYS remains). It is all just a visual mirage on the surface of an internal mechanism which we would could never control or alter to begin with, and I am supremely disappointed. Light up the comments, light up discord, this is told clown BS. #FIXHIMNOW
Please test Lucius in other content like gear raids. I haven't tested him yet but the chatter is he is bugged on buff removal for all content not just GB2.
As a player, I empathize with the frustration. But as a developer (albeit not a game developer) I’d like to see us players give them grace and time to fix it right or we’ll be back here screaming again. I’d much rather see a notice of “we’re working on it” and a fix comes out in two weeks vs a rushed fix that appears to work but doesn’t. Timely and effective communication is what is needed right now.
@@stingalildream this is fine but then we need that communication and acknowledgment. With the beneficial anti heal bugged they fix it in less than 24hrs. With this Lucius Semrah issue harming players it has been days and days
@@stingalildream I am a developer too. What you said could've been a justification for them if they did not fix the benefitting anti heal bug in lightning speed. Pure greed.
@@fastidious_gg to be fair they did change Lucius kit to make him remove 5 buffs instantly when he uses Ult. So they made him perfectly useful in GB2 assuming GB2 wasn’t broken. Either Lucius buff removal doesn’t work or GB2 buffs aren’t actually being removed but they did address the initial issue. They may not know that his buff removal isn’t doing anything, they clearly made the change to his kit to make him much better for GB2 (and that only took days for them to change). Even if GB2 comes back to 6 stacks every time, Lucius can now immediately drop them to one. So they listened to feedback and made a change, they just may not realize that buff removal isn’t working. So it’s a second bug they have to fix, they fixed how Lucius’ kit work to make him theoretically good for the boss. Now they have to actually fix the boss/buff removal in general. 100% good to raise awareness of, but this isn’t the same issue that was originally raised, that has been addressed through a kit change to Lucius. So Lucius’ kit is where it needs to be to handle GB2 mechanic where it slowly increased the stacks it gives itself, the issue now is that seemingly buff removal itself is entirely broken, but that’s a different issue.
Moonton is like “oh shit this bug makes semrah super easy, let’s fix it within a couple hours” but also “oh this bug makes it way more difficult, let’s leave it for as long as possible”
This is an excellent video and very clearly shows why things aren’t working as they’re supposed to. Really hope they fix it. Thanks for the effort it took to make this and for bringing this problem to light!
I'm on the verge of asking for a full refund for false advertising. I pulled hard for a5 lucius as I'm building a strong watcher team (got a4), spent real money on the promise of lucius dispelling buffs. He doesn't do it - he doesn't do what we were told. He also doesn't remove the buff from the valderon boss. I've copped abuse on Facebook saying he is broken, so I'm ready to support this in full until it is fixed.
It’s actually crazy that he “works in semrah” visually but semrah is bugged so he doesn’t actually work. And then in all content outside of semrah he doesn’t even work visually 🤣
They may not be able to fix something like this overnight, but the least they could do is acknowledge there are “issues” and thank the community for bringing them forward and they will be addressing them as quickly as I can. I for one do understand this could take time but for fuck sake, just admit it isn’t working as intended.
Feelsbad pulling 220 summons for Lucious, just to have him be zero help. Been struggling woth CB2 and was excited to have "huge help" from this "made for CB2 lego". Thanks for making this, brother.
Hes not zero effect as he allows your team to do more damage as he removes hardening. The earth's shatter increase is attached when a stack of hardening is added but I don't believe removing hardening removes the stacks added to earth's shatter as they are independent of one another. Hardening is a buff while the attack increase is an effect triggered each time the buff is gained.
Good on you for making this video Fastidious. This is very reminiscent of when they first released Zelus' anti-heal artifact - at first everyone thought, wow, Zelus may finally have some use! We were wrong. It was a week or two later post-release where I decided to test it, realised it wasn't working, got in touch with MaBucket and we both confirmed it to not be working... He made a video about it and it was only after it was brought to light in that way did the Devs decide to go and fix it, as support tickets had achieved nothing. Hopefully there will be some admission of fault from the devs and this gets fixed but I wouldn't expect it; most likely just a fix and then bury it in the sand that they (potentially) tried to deceive players, or that they are incompetent and don't actually test their fixes. It would not surprise me to find out that there are a lot of other things not working with WoR to this day
I hear ya man. It is frustrating that all the testing and "proving" has to fall on the playerbase. Good job getting the Zelus stuff done way back when :)
Thanks for being so detailed, I never would notice this stuff and I spent way too much money for Lucius. This shit shouldn't be happening and Moonton owes us a BIG compensation. I don't want 200 energy, I want 2 weeks worth of top tier Guild Boss 2 rewards at a minimum
This is crazy. The resources people dumped to get further into this game mode just to find that the aegis portion of the boss is broken. Pretty sad. Also happy to see you specify the timeframe of the antiheal "fix" being a measure for how fast they handle this bug being brought to their attention. Lets see if they can get it done. Great job Fasti!
I Will play devil advocate here. The tests performed are a bit weak, to better understand if there is a bug or not: 1- all buffs were removed after casting earth shatter. Game might be coded in a way were it registers stacks when channeling. Dispeling them might be useless. Have you tried dispeling them while channeling Aegis? 2- Rocks might be coded in a way which reads stacks from the prior attack. Since It wasnt dispelled prior to channeling It, It IS still wrong. 3- have you tested whether or not p.dmg reduction stacks after dispeling? This way we can understand how stacks are coded. 4 - if there is no increase in dmg after dispeling, then stacks are bugged always. If the boss takes more dmg, then It all comes down to the attack channeling mentioned before.(Which IS still a bug, but we just pinpointed the problem, which would make It easier for bug fixing)
1. yes tried both ways. same results 2. like u said, this would stilll be wrong 3. tried but found it impossible to know where what damage was coming from 4. yea no idea how to check this but it seemed that the reductions were working (i wasn't able to take off damage at the rate I could at the beginning of this phase before the aegis stacks started)
@@fastidious_ggamazing Fasti. You did a lot of work behind the scenes It seems, thanks for that. For 3th/4th point, by taking out most of the team, leaving only, healers and luci It could be tested. Either way It IS bugged, which is a shame. It feels to me that some of the team who tests for Bugs are kinda new to the job, cause these kind of things should never be seen. Specially if you have a test server.
The Problem is not only with Semrah. Also the Buffs of the Valderon event boss cannot be dispelled with Lucius. So far Lucius is useless for what he usually was intended to be. I put all my resources into getting him and now I am quite disappointed. Hope that Moonton will fix him.
The most outrageous "salt on the wound" is the fact that the devs did not pull punches in the speed of fixing the anti-heal. I have 0 anti-heal heroes so my hopes to get a little higher than my current 6k points was Lucius in a way and if I'm incredibly lucky to get Praetus... but when the boss/heroes do NOT work in the benefit of the players, suddenly there isn't a miraculous over the top speedy fix of the issue. Can we make a petition or something? I'll definitely sign it T_T #FIXHIMNOW and maybe also #PlayFairDevs
Man, I've made my bad feelings about this game fairly well known, at least to you privately- I've fought the urge to really blow them up publicly. I was excited for Lucius and pulled everything I had and was able to get him. The only reason I wanted him was for GB2. This has been super disappointing, but right in brand for Moonton. Every time I get excited for something they find some way to sour it. Thank you for sharing your frustrations, they echo mine perfectly.
And Lucius don't remove the buffs from the boss Valderyon, I pulled him for this too but it simply don't work. The mechanic to dispell enemies' buffs is simply badly implanted and it will be a problem for all further heroes having this, further content relying on this or even old content probably not possible to dispell. Pulled him A3, it's not a bad hero but not the one we were promised.
Agree 100 %, I am also very dissapointed in Moonton about how this has played out. Props to you Fasti for breaking down the problems so clearly. I knew it was broken with regard to Lucius, but I had no idea how broken it was.
If they don't fix GB2 properly AND make sure Lucious dispells buffs on ALL enemies, we might as well quit this buggy game and let it die. Pumping in so much to pull ultra-rare characters and they're broken. Slow, if any, fixes on bad bugs and INSTANT fixes on "exploits".
I thought I was crazy today, thank you for this video. I've spent 3hrs today trying and trying to pass this phase, I was dispelling like crazy, but my heroes keep dying. How Moonton does their business is ridiculous, anti-heal was fixed in a matter of hours, yet the hero which was specifically tailored for this phase of the boss was "fixed", even though I believe it's a bad fix, after a week or two after we noticed that it wasn't working correctly. Now they want to tell us, that during the "fix" and "test" of Lucious, not a single soul saw the damage on other heroes and the fact that you can't pass this stage is mind-blowing for me. They feed players with money grabbing banners every week or two( I know, you don't have to buy it), they release unfinished and untested heroes and content. Really sad, because the community even though small, is made from good people, unlike their other hit game Mobile legends, where the whole community is made up of trolls and racist. I hope they realise what they have with this community and content creators before it's too late. You guys are spending countless hours trying to perfect a stage, for everyone to pass, countless hours streaming, editing, for lets say pennies on the dollar, compared to some other games and creators, all because of love for the game. Idk man, rng Gods looked up at me, and my 1,5 month saving went into Lucios banner, where I got him to A3. You could say I was ecstatic, and today the final two skill crystals went into him and he was ready to shine, just for me to try and try for hours and fail because of lazy and bad coding. Keep up the good work, and it was really nice of you for filming that video for Destined and keeping things on the positive side. Best wishes Fasti
Pretty messed up. I literally spent money to ensure i had enough summons to get Lucious. With how good the rewards are from GB2 and his kit dispelling, he was marketed and as basically necessary to complete GB2 so i spent money to ensure i got him and now he’s useless. Don’t release game modes or heroes when they aren’t working correctly. This is so dumb. Definitely need to fix this asap.
It makes me so angry I spent so much money and resources on this Lucius banner man. Specifically for this fight and to have a good hero to help with this section so if this doesn't get fixed I don't think I'll ever spend another dollar in this game
Valderon in the story chapter Beta also puts 'what i assume' buffs on himself. My Lucius either does NOTHING against those buffs, or the buff visuals are never removed from Valderon
Ty for providing my point in your "Lucius us Bugged" video that the boss was the problem. I'm definitely going to screenshot the stupid replies made to my comment there just for gratification.
Again, they can fix a bug with the Antihealing because it allows the players to cheese something they want to be hard content, but when it comes to making sure the players are able to actually do content due to it not being bugged, I bet they take A LOT longer. Thank you for making this video as this is fucking unacceptable. Keep making as much noise as possible.
I ended up making a “Lucius is good after the buff” video you were talking about making at the beginning lmao. This was incredibly well done. Thanks for the effort I’m sure this took forever. I did at least feel that any remaining issues were semrah, not Lucius. Thanks for confirming.
Thanks man. Yea this took hours all morning but I think it frame for frame proves how broken and scammy this whole thing is! p.s. been seeing your vids popping up all the time - keep grinding :)
Thank you for the amount of work you've put into this, this is very valuable.. Do you think it would be possible that the damage was set during the charge up time of the skill like it's some sort of start up animation and that the way to actually remove the buffs and reduces the damage is to remove the buffs before the charge up?
Silver lining, I’m not feeling so bad about failing to pull him now. Still I pulled everything I had, which was a LOT. Well done for spotting this, can’t believe this has slipped through. I can’t believe that it’s intentional, they’d have to know someone would spot it with how much microscopic differences and min/maxing make in these games.
I was holding my summon crystals to this, ignored Anora totally, even knowing that I would not be able get her after, all for Lucius. I spended everything that I could on him, and I not even got him. Got just a Cerberus and a Seraphine, both not even in the banner. I accepted my bad luck and moved on, but now I'm mad. If I knew this BS before I would hold my crystals or invested it on Anora. I feel deceived. I hope a great reparation from the devs, or I'm probably quiting this game.
The world dumped im assuming millions of dollars to get lucious for his buff removing ability witch does nothing... Man the money hungry marketing of corporations is crazy and also very smart
Really well done vid! Good that you adressed this so well, cause if not i would have made a vid that would probably have been a bit too unhinged, cause i have some additional insight on this. Cause for me its ok to have a bug, but then just stand by it, adress it, say yeah we get it, we are working on it and all is good, but the crazy thing is that a Guy from my Community came up to me about Semrahs bugs and wanted to know whats true now and what not, cause he wrote to Support about it and they said, no this is how its supposed to work???? Like what?? U dont need to lie about smth that obvious even a toddler would see there is smth wrong, why all of a sudden the visual buff of like 10 shield stacks of semrah insta disappears when lucius ults who can only get rid of 4? For me it just is, hey look its okey to have bugs even the biggest games on the planet have bugs, but please just address them say ur working on it and stand by it, but dont start saying oh thats how its supposed to work. Ofc it is just someone from support, but still like just be honest and open about it, and if that person from support didnt know that semrah wasnt fixed, well then im sorry intern communication needs to be improved.
man I TOTALLY hear you on this. The support know nothing. Which is insanely annoying but whatever. The thing that kills me is how confidently they just say completely incorrect things. They should just admit they don't know and say "We will check with the devs." Would be a cop out but at least not a lie...
Great video - and thank you for showing this to others as well as proofing it for the developers. From a coding perspective - I have read many times now, that the Anti-Heal "bug" got fixed so fast, but here it seems to take way longer. I have no access to the code, but it might be a bit more tricky to remove/fix this bug than the Anti-Healing one. I am very certain that the developers are aware of this situation and certainly doing their best to find a solution - again that is just my assumption. Of course it is annoying, but with so much going on in this game right now, I think it will take a bit until this will be fixed. I am not taking side with anyone - I try to see it objectively and hope that others can so too. It is such a wonderful game and the community is great and so are the developers, I am sure it will be fixed soon - after all they are not Plarium!
I‘m with you that this has to be fixed like asap but always remember Moonton did a generous and really good job with the player Base this is their first major mistake. Company’s like Plarium were scamming people for so much longer. WoR is still a good game with a lot of potential. They need to fix this but I’m not sure if it’s worth it to unleash the mob angry torch waving gamers if you know what I mean. ^^
Thanks for making this video and pointing these things out, man. This community is lucky to have such a content creator. Now I finally know what was the source of my huge frustration for wasting 4 hours of my life trying to figure out, why things are not working out for me in this content. The first week, I was able to make 30k, second week and this week, I hardly get over 20k. I invested to Lucious to help me out, another waste. By the way it seemed to me today that Marri stopped being able to causing dmg reduction stucks during the first phase with her crowd controll skills. Thanks once again for being loud with these things, because yes, esentially they gave us a new content with freebies, but they still mislead us to invest time, efforts and resources to be able to achieve the best rewards possible and it is just a waste, which is not cool. You are as always much appreciated, man!
I am not even surprised actually. The devs seem very very bad at programming. Moonton is greedy and lazy, I really thought they were different but I've been warning people for bs like this for months and people just laughed or said "nO YoU'Re wRoNg" or "just bUy mOrE".
@@Binzob Really? I have heard the opposite and people said that Moonton wasn't nearly as predatory and bad as i.e Plarium. I do kinda accept the "you're dumb" label that you want to place on me. I was basically just hoping that this game wouldn't do what literally every similar game has done. At least I haven't spent anything in game for months and I most likely won't because of how they are running this clown show!
This occurs with players heroes in arena too and any buffs in all content. Buffs are not treated as positive status effects which can be removed. Only time buffs are removed is via timer if they are timed buffs. Whereas debuffs can be removed and can expire
Thanks for this Fasti... Most of us only have 1 dispeller (Midan). I pulled hundreds of rare summons for Lucius for aegis shield stage.. Now he is useless. Therefore any second team I use is decimated by the poisons and my main team can't deal with the aegis shields... Compensate with Elowyn please Moonton.
Nice. By the way, did any of you tried to remove any buffs with Lucius, outside gb2? He does nothing. I tried a couple times, and he's useless. Like the ult is only intended to work on gb2. It is indeed a scam
What a great video! This is SHOCKING! I can't believe they didn't know this was the case. I didn't go ham to get a champion that would remove buff-symbols! This needs to be fixed and MASSIVE compensation should be given to people who invested so heavily in Lucious.
The thing I hate so far is luscious alt mode thing. Like it always activates and ruins using the ult to clear buffs, it should be a thing or be a choice to use, not randomly activated
I've been saying, if the boss is normal(also just get +1 buff and not this bs he it get +5,+6 immediately if we diapel), the Lucius before changes is better cause you can always pop his ult and he will just dispel the buff along the way instead of now that we need to wait for the right time and have a chance for his demon mode trigger instead. Such a joke, Lucius is not the problem from the beginning its the boss itself.
Hate to play devils advocate but I never believed there would be new, high reward late game content released and then we are immediately handed a relatively easy to obtain cheat code. They should change the wording or visuals maybe but not make significant changes to Lucius or the boss mechanics. It’s supposed to be hard. And yes I have Lucius.
Even with him is hard , my account is not bad at all i have him and his lego lord and i am still stuck at 22k on first difficulty and 8k on second. The boss is a massive account hero (lords) check .
Nope, there is definetely cheat code for this boss. People already 120k++ this boss with those cheat code. Praeteus, carnelian, elowyn. There are also heroes like nazeem and thallen who completely shut up +12 stack stun for first phase. But to reach 120k+ we need heroes that do dmg, survive, buff. So there is cost value which hero should be able to do it and it would not sounds good for just anyone.
Why don't they play test their new content before releasing them? Moonton should come out and give transparency especially to their customers who spend $$$$ during this event. And also it's this game's anniversary
I was actually in shock when I saw this myself, because they release a character to deal with an issue.. and it does nothing even if you time it all perfectly. It also means you do less dmg as the same stacks increase damage reduction for semrah still remain. Fix please!
I used my semrah keys allready. I allways do my runs with alistair or volka so i dont know if the damage reducing debuff works. It seems so bugged that now I dont trust a single thing. Ill test as much as possible from monday and report the issues. I can go distance in the fight got 140k this week so i can check all the fases and damage increase to round 5-6
Well thanks for confirming my observation. I had that negative damage/survivability results with Lucius - basically it was as bad as before the fix and running it auto or timing it had 0 impact. Ok maybe the fix was not live in Aegis mode, then saw them dispelling and it looked fixed - then numbers did not improve after the dispel. Then ran in multiple times and my outcome was pathetic to say the least. I finally took out Lucius out of rotation and made him part of my junk second team... May I ask to please take care of yourself. It happens and no one died - please let’s see the response first. It is important for your mental health and wellbeing to not be affected as strongly by someone else’s mistakes.
I used Lucius to attack Semrah last week and this week. In my mind, it was working normally, especially since Lucius is already strong by default and dealt more than 100M damage. However, I got stuck precisely at the shield phase. (I found it strange not being able to get through due to lack of damage and some heroes die, especially since it was easy until then, but I accepted it) Now we know the reason, thank you Fasti! It would be interesting if they rewarded everyone who used Lucius to attack Semrah last week and this week with something like double the reward, or two more keys to attack the boss again, something like that... or better than that.
A thing i noticed is that the shield keeps the 6 section lighten up of blue even if you buff dispel and that's where the scaling dmg comes i think and when you buff dispel the light on the shield should turn off since from how it's written the stacks should mirror the blue light on his shield but those never go away so ones he reach 6 semrah it's always at max dmg
I think lucius only dispels the dmg reduction on Semrah. Would be way to strong if it also removes the Attack from Semrah. Test if the dmg reduction is dispelled before calling mirrage and shiet lile that
@@Feboo87 this is what I would like to know. The earth's shatter increase is attached when a stack of hardening is added but I don't believe removing hardening removes the stacks added to earth's shatter as they are independent of one another. Hardening is a buff while the attack increase is an effect triggered each time the buff is gained.
@@SoldierBoy13nah, it should be all, dmg increase, dmg reductiom, extra dmg should tied to hardening stack. If not Lucius or any future dispeler is just trash, better of use better dps. People also should now, Semrah by itself everytime it changes phase, already getting powered up so lucius and his mechanic will not entirely make phase 2 so easy, we still need top of the line team comp to be able to 120k.
For me it's really a simple fix of treating all buffs as positive status effects and using cleanse coding to reduce them to 0 with a dispel. But it is a lot of work recoding every buff to act that way and pretty sure each buff will need to be done individually as in some content buffs are permanent. This is no quick fix and we must be patient.
Fasti out here doing the lords work. Seems unintentional with Lucius being "broken" and "fixed" once already. Seems the mechanics aren't working as intended, hope they sort it out bc I used like a months worth of summons to ensure I got Lucius for this boss 😂
Will you look at that, when it comes to bugs that benefits the community they are very fast and give 0 fucks on how they do it, however when it comes to their bug it takes forever for them to fix it, another good job for moonton to push players away from their game.. Lucky we have content creators like fasti who are concern about these things..
They will now fix this issue by "Boss like Semrah are unaffected by debuff effect" and it only works on mobs. There Hero bugg fix. It should not be taking out the aegis shields.
Debuffs are classed as negative status effects and can be cleansed to 0. Buffs you'd think would be treated in same way as positive status effects. And could be reduced to 0 when dispelled. Yet buffs are not treated this way. Buffs are only visually removed. This occurs with all buffs. Semrah is not the only bugged content. It occurs with everything every single buff can not be removed. They just temporarily hidden visually. This occurs in every mode. Yet debuffs can be cleansed to 0. Why is it they got it so wrong because buffs are not treated as positive status effects.
Thank you for the detailed video!! Fantastic job, do you know if it works the same when attacking him? I mean, does stacks matter while dealing damage or are those the same than the bug you're showing?
Thank you for exposing this! Hopefully Moonton fixes this soon. I spent over 400 pulls trying to get as many copies of Lucius as possible and was very disappointed in his performance on GB2.
And devs didint know this? They convinced us to spend money or long time saved crystals for hero which is useless if he can’t dispel boss mechanic properly and then what? They going to send us 100 diamonds sorry? Embarrassing
Is it possible that Lucius has to remove the buffs before the Earth Shatter charge bar reaches the end? It could be that the damage is calculated at the moment the bar finishes and anything that happens after that doesn't affect it. Your timing of Lucius is before the damage numbers appear, but after the bar has already fully charged. Maybe try again with Lucius ult going off before the Earth Shatter bar completes.
Thanks for doing this Fasti. I have been saying it was BS in the wor discord for a while and was getting downvoted. Glad you're able to get the word out as a content creator you're doing gods work
It was something a bit expected when you see the buff counter is not tied to Lucius buff removal. Seems they went on a lazy implementation without considering buff removal was a thing
Great Video Fasti you really put alot of effort in to break it all down. Now let's hope the Devs review your video and fix this ASAP as it stands Lucius is basically a useless hero now when he was supposed to be a goat. Very disappointing from the devs may have been an accident but if it's not fixed as fast as the anti heal bug it really shows alot about the company and I'm not looking to play a Raid 2.0
@Binzob if they don't fix it with some speed it's very shady of the company and shows character, I get they gave Lucius a buff and that was great, also they have had weeks to notice/fix it. Don't forget this has been on the forerunner sever even before it came to global. I'm no coder but I really don't think this is a massive fix like your implying. Yes Lucius is in my opinion a GOAT for this specific content you said it yourself I agree in other areas of the game he's on par with others
@Binzob regardless of how you feel about forerunner they basically use it as a test server and just to be clear I totally understand how things like this can be over looked but if they don't come out with at a minimum a statement about this issue but are magically able to fix a bug that was "good" for the players overnight it doesn't look very good on them.
Once again the savior thanks for bringing this up bro you did a great job hope it gets fixed soon Since I literally went crazy for lucius pull 4 leggos before i pull him and costed me alot ....
You know, this might be because you won't remove the buffs during the aegis mode bar. You wait till right before the damage. What if when the Aegis mode bar completes, it locks in the buffs for the damage until the next cycle. I understand what you're saying and it probably should work that way, but if you haven't, try removing while the aegis mode bar is still ticking down.
I not only used a TON of saved summon resources and gems to get Lucius (he was clearly the one most people were pulling for on that banner, and I personally decided to prioritize getting him over the limited hero,) but I also used a TON of saved resources to immediately get all his skills etc. THAT is how big we assumed this hero was going to be for the GB2 encounter. I'm choosing to believe the devs will make this right, but for sure they dropped the ball. If any part of this was intentional, as per the skill descriptions they needed to be VERY clear, because their inconsistent skill descriptions means we often have to make guesses about what we THINK the skill deswcription is trying to say, AND if intentional they'd have to KNOW it works in a very non inuitive way compared to every other dispell we see in the game where removed debuffs STAY gone. Also, there is honestly no way they should have released a dispell hero like this without a buffs/debuffs overhaul in game. Let us see buffs and debuffs on non boss enemies. Make a clear indication of NON dispellable buffs (since Lucius is currrently not removing buffs in other encounters) if they intend to have that, and change the terminology when things do not interact with dispells as players would expect. Don't want buffs removable from your brand new GB2 encounter? Then don't release a dispel hero immediately after! Or call the buffs in that stage "Blessings" or something and make it CLEAR that "Blessings" are only temporarily removed. This shit isn't hard to do, and it isn't hard to predict where players will get confused and justifiably angry.
One question: does dispelling the 'buff icons' increase the damage done to Semrah? Not that it makes any real difference overall, but since the Aegis stacks also increase his defense, does removing the 'visual buffs' at the very least increase his damage taken? Basically, does Lucius do anything at all, or is absolutely everything broken? Also, after he dispels the 'icons', do they all immediately return on his next Aegis cast, or do they start over? If they don't start over from nothing, then even if dispels worked perfectly and decreased the damage on the next attack, it would still be pretty pointless unless Lucius was always ready to use his ability on the next Earth Shatter...
Thats the thing, as of right now the boss interaction with buff removal is broken. Boss supposed to get only "1" buff at time, but if Lucius removed it, now it gets whatever amount that has been removed+1. This is could be the first indicator that the buff "was never" been removed in the code. Im afraid as fasti said, as of right now its all just visual cleansing, it did not touch the mwchanism at all
So trying to have a window of opportunity to breathe is not even available since the buffs still technically stay with the boss and you're not removing anything
Happy birthday WOR 😂 To be fair, I think they just fumbled the dispel enemy mechanism. It was the first one, and it is just not ready. Probably a victim of a birthday rush.
@@davidk5990 i mean Lucius works very well now. It is just that the boss is ignoring it because it is bugged. When they fix this, Lucius will be nice and strong
At this point I just want to refund the resources I put into leveling up Lucius… Totally unusable especially he freaking turns into a mode if you want to time when to use it… like wtf the ultimate is the ONLY reason we need you here!!
Also maybe I am not doing it right but Lucius can really dispel only 1 time since we can’t get the ultimate fast enough and boss will get all the stacks back so the next time we will still wipe…
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The buffs shown in the Semrah fight are not real. Internally, they are always being registered as permanent buffs which can only increase until a max of 6 stacks regardless. That number was never able to decrease. "Dispelling" these buffs does LITERALLY NOTHING beside temporarily removed the buff icon (the effect ALWAYS remains). It is all just a visual mirage on the surface of an internal mechanism which we would could never control or alter to begin with, and I am supremely disappointed.
Light up the comments, light up discord, this is told clown BS.
#FIXHIMNOW
Please test Lucius in other content like gear raids. I haven't tested him yet but the chatter is he is bugged on buff removal for all content not just GB2.
As a player, I empathize with the frustration. But as a developer (albeit not a game developer) I’d like to see us players give them grace and time to fix it right or we’ll be back here screaming again. I’d much rather see a notice of “we’re working on it” and a fix comes out in two weeks vs a rushed fix that appears to work but doesn’t. Timely and effective communication is what is needed right now.
@@stingalildream this is fine but then we need that communication and acknowledgment. With the beneficial anti heal bugged they fix it in less than 24hrs. With this Lucius Semrah issue harming players it has been days and days
@@stingalildream I am a developer too. What you said could've been a justification for them if they did not fix the benefitting anti heal bug in lightning speed. Pure greed.
@@fastidious_gg to be fair they did change Lucius kit to make him remove 5 buffs instantly when he uses Ult. So they made him perfectly useful in GB2 assuming GB2 wasn’t broken. Either Lucius buff removal doesn’t work or GB2 buffs aren’t actually being removed but they did address the initial issue. They may not know that his buff removal isn’t doing anything, they clearly made the change to his kit to make him much better for GB2 (and that only took days for them to change). Even if GB2 comes back to 6 stacks every time, Lucius can now immediately drop them to one. So they listened to feedback and made a change, they just may not realize that buff removal isn’t working.
So it’s a second bug they have to fix, they fixed how Lucius’ kit work to make him theoretically good for the boss. Now they have to actually fix the boss/buff removal in general.
100% good to raise awareness of, but this isn’t the same issue that was originally raised, that has been addressed through a kit change to Lucius. So Lucius’ kit is where it needs to be to handle GB2 mechanic where it slowly increased the stacks it gives itself, the issue now is that seemingly buff removal itself is entirely broken, but that’s a different issue.
Moonton is like “oh shit this bug makes semrah super easy, let’s fix it within a couple hours” but also “oh this bug makes it way more difficult, let’s leave it for as long as possible”
This is an excellent video and very clearly shows why things aren’t working as they’re supposed to. Really hope they fix it. Thanks for the effort it took to make this and for bringing this problem to light!
they fixed the anti heal bug so quick, hopefully they'll tackle this issue with the same vigor
They already failed. Ita been over a week. They fixed anti healing within 24hrs.
Here comes Moontoon with 100 Diamonds compensation and hero reset event 🤡
well they dont have to give us anything
I'm on the verge of asking for a full refund for false advertising.
I pulled hard for a5 lucius as I'm building a strong watcher team (got a4), spent real money on the promise of lucius dispelling buffs. He doesn't do it - he doesn't do what we were told.
He also doesn't remove the buff from the valderon boss.
I've copped abuse on Facebook saying he is broken, so I'm ready to support this in full until it is fixed.
It’s actually crazy that he “works in semrah” visually but semrah is bugged so he doesn’t actually work. And then in all content outside of semrah he doesn’t even work visually 🤣
500 summons to get Lucuis to A2, and he doesn't work.
Doesn't work in arbiter of frost too
Good point. It is false advertisement.
For me seems like the boss is buged, lucius do dispell buffs.
Also, Ymiret's ult does not protect in-range allies from freezing. Tested in Arbiter of Frost. So another new, bugged hero.
I tried my Ymiret on the boss Ymiret and it was strange, sometime the allies were not frozen with full stack of frost, sometime they were.
They may not be able to fix something like this overnight, but the least they could do is acknowledge there are “issues” and thank the community for bringing them forward and they will be addressing them as quickly as I can. I for one do understand this could take time but for fuck sake, just admit it isn’t working as intended.
100% agree with you
Feelsbad pulling 220 summons for Lucious, just to have him be zero help.
Been struggling woth CB2 and was excited to have "huge help" from this "made for CB2 lego".
Thanks for making this, brother.
Hes not zero effect as he allows your team to do more damage as he removes hardening. The earth's shatter increase is attached when a stack of hardening is added but I don't believe removing hardening removes the stacks added to earth's shatter as they are independent of one another. Hardening is a buff while the attack increase is an effect triggered each time the buff is gained.
Good on you for making this video Fastidious. This is very reminiscent of when they first released Zelus' anti-heal artifact - at first everyone thought, wow, Zelus may finally have some use! We were wrong. It was a week or two later post-release where I decided to test it, realised it wasn't working, got in touch with MaBucket and we both confirmed it to not be working... He made a video about it and it was only after it was brought to light in that way did the Devs decide to go and fix it, as support tickets had achieved nothing.
Hopefully there will be some admission of fault from the devs and this gets fixed but I wouldn't expect it; most likely just a fix and then bury it in the sand that they (potentially) tried to deceive players, or that they are incompetent and don't actually test their fixes. It would not surprise me to find out that there are a lot of other things not working with WoR to this day
I hear ya man. It is frustrating that all the testing and "proving" has to fall on the playerbase. Good job getting the Zelus stuff done way back when :)
Thanks for being so detailed, I never would notice this stuff and I spent way too much money for Lucius. This shit shouldn't be happening and Moonton owes us a BIG compensation. I don't want 200 energy, I want 2 weeks worth of top tier Guild Boss 2 rewards at a minimum
This is crazy. The resources people dumped to get further into this game mode just to find that the aegis portion of the boss is broken. Pretty sad. Also happy to see you specify the timeframe of the antiheal "fix" being a measure for how fast they handle this bug being brought to their attention. Lets see if they can get it done.
Great job Fasti!
I pulled Lucious yesterday and took him straight into GB2 and was severely disappointed and confused.
I Will play devil advocate here. The tests performed are a bit weak, to better understand if there is a bug or not:
1- all buffs were removed after casting earth shatter. Game might be coded in a way were it registers stacks when channeling. Dispeling them might be useless. Have you tried dispeling them while channeling Aegis?
2- Rocks might be coded in a way which reads stacks from the prior attack. Since It wasnt dispelled prior to channeling It, It IS still wrong.
3- have you tested whether or not p.dmg reduction stacks after dispeling? This way we can understand how stacks are coded.
4 - if there is no increase in dmg after dispeling, then stacks are bugged always. If the boss takes more dmg, then It all comes down to the attack channeling mentioned before.(Which IS still a bug, but we just pinpointed the problem, which would make It easier for bug fixing)
1. yes tried both ways. same results
2. like u said, this would stilll be wrong
3. tried but found it impossible to know where what damage was coming from
4. yea no idea how to check this but it seemed that the reductions were working (i wasn't able to take off damage at the rate I could at the beginning of this phase before the aegis stacks started)
@@fastidious_ggamazing Fasti. You did a lot of work behind the scenes It seems, thanks for that.
For 3th/4th point, by taking out most of the team, leaving only, healers and luci It could be tested. Either way It IS bugged, which is a shame. It feels to me that some of the team who tests for Bugs are kinda new to the job, cause these kind of things should never be seen. Specially if you have a test server.
The Problem is not only with Semrah. Also the Buffs of the Valderon event boss cannot be dispelled with Lucius. So far Lucius is useless for what he usually was intended to be. I put all my resources into getting him and now I am quite disappointed. Hope that Moonton will fix him.
The most outrageous "salt on the wound" is the fact that the devs did not pull punches in the speed of fixing the anti-heal. I have 0 anti-heal heroes so my hopes to get a little higher than my current 6k points was Lucius in a way and if I'm incredibly lucky to get Praetus... but when the boss/heroes do NOT work in the benefit of the players, suddenly there isn't a miraculous over the top speedy fix of the issue. Can we make a petition or something? I'll definitely sign it T_T #FIXHIMNOW and maybe also #PlayFairDevs
Thanks! For the Details Great Work Fasti!!!
Man, I've made my bad feelings about this game fairly well known, at least to you privately- I've fought the urge to really blow them up publicly. I was excited for Lucius and pulled everything I had and was able to get him. The only reason I wanted him was for GB2. This has been super disappointing, but right in brand for Moonton. Every time I get excited for something they find some way to sour it. Thank you for sharing your frustrations, they echo mine perfectly.
And Lucius don't remove the buffs from the boss Valderyon, I pulled him for this too but it simply don't work.
The mechanic to dispell enemies' buffs is simply badly implanted and it will be a problem for all further heroes having this, further content relying on this or even old content probably not possible to dispell.
Pulled him A3, it's not a bad hero but not the one we were promised.
Agree 100 %, I am also very dissapointed in Moonton about how this has played out. Props to you Fasti for breaking down the problems so clearly. I knew it was broken with regard to Lucius, but I had no idea how broken it was.
What moontoon didn’t take into consideration when making this boss was underestimating the community and Fastidious
Nice catch! Thank you for putting in the time to show this so clearly. This must be why so many people can't get past this mode
If they don't fix GB2 properly AND make sure Lucious dispells buffs on ALL enemies, we might as well quit this buggy game and let it die.
Pumping in so much to pull ultra-rare characters and they're broken.
Slow, if any, fixes on bad bugs and INSTANT fixes on "exploits".
I thought I was crazy today, thank you for this video. I've spent 3hrs today trying and trying to pass this phase, I was dispelling like crazy, but my heroes keep dying. How Moonton does their business is ridiculous, anti-heal was fixed in a matter of hours, yet the hero which was specifically tailored for this phase of the boss was "fixed", even though I believe it's a bad fix, after a week or two after we noticed that it wasn't working correctly. Now they want to tell us, that during the "fix" and "test" of Lucious, not a single soul saw the damage on other heroes and the fact that you can't pass this stage is mind-blowing for me. They feed players with money grabbing banners every week or two( I know, you don't have to buy it), they release unfinished and untested heroes and content. Really sad, because the community even though small, is made from good people, unlike their other hit game Mobile legends, where the whole community is made up of trolls and racist. I hope they realise what they have with this community and content creators before it's too late. You guys are spending countless hours trying to perfect a stage, for everyone to pass, countless hours streaming, editing, for lets say pennies on the dollar, compared to some other games and creators, all because of love for the game. Idk man, rng Gods looked up at me, and my 1,5 month saving went into Lucios banner, where I got him to A3. You could say I was ecstatic, and today the final two skill crystals went into him and he was ready to shine, just for me to try and try for hours and fail because of lazy and bad coding. Keep up the good work, and it was really nice of you for filming that video for Destined and keeping things on the positive side. Best wishes Fasti
Pretty messed up. I literally spent money to ensure i had enough summons to get Lucious. With how good the rewards are from GB2 and his kit dispelling, he was marketed and as basically necessary to complete GB2 so i spent money to ensure i got him and now he’s useless. Don’t release game modes or heroes when they aren’t working correctly. This is so dumb. Definitely need to fix this asap.
Wow, they really blew it big time... Ridiculous indeed. Thanks for the detail, a fix in 24 hours is the least we expect!
It makes me so angry I spent so much money and resources on this Lucius banner man. Specifically for this fight and to have a good hero to help with this section so if this doesn't get fixed I don't think I'll ever spend another dollar in this game
Valderon in the story chapter Beta also puts 'what i assume' buffs on himself. My Lucius either does NOTHING against those buffs, or the buff visuals are never removed from Valderon
@@Binzob did not notice that, thanks for the clarification. 👍
Ty for providing my point in your "Lucius us Bugged" video that the boss was the problem. I'm definitely going to screenshot the stupid replies made to my comment there just for gratification.
Again, they can fix a bug with the Antihealing because it allows the players to cheese something they want to be hard content, but when it comes to making sure the players are able to actually do content due to it not being bugged, I bet they take A LOT longer.
Thank you for making this video as this is fucking unacceptable. Keep making as much noise as possible.
@@Binzob okay blud
I spent $600 to get lucius a3. They need to fix this asap.
I got an a4 Lucius and lots spending was chasing for a5 made me feel it was dumb now
ouch
This could seriously harm Moontons reputation. Let's see when and how they react.
xD So Lucius is not removing buffs, he is removing plain ICONS! Good job moonton, this is just hilarious.
lol so dumb but SO well put
I ended up making a “Lucius is good after the buff” video you were talking about making at the beginning lmao. This was incredibly well done. Thanks for the effort I’m sure this took forever. I did at least feel that any remaining issues were semrah, not Lucius. Thanks for confirming.
Thanks man. Yea this took hours all morning but I think it frame for frame proves how broken and scammy this whole thing is!
p.s. been seeing your vids popping up all the time - keep grinding :)
@@fastidious_ggthanks man. And yea this beyond all doubt proves it’s bugged af. I’m actually annoyed now. I’ve been trying to remain positive 😂
Thank you for the amount of work you've put into this, this is very valuable..
Do you think it would be possible that the damage was set during the charge up time of the skill like it's some sort of start up animation and that the way to actually remove the buffs and reduces the damage is to remove the buffs before the charge up?
Silver lining, I’m not feeling so bad about failing to pull him now. Still I pulled everything I had, which was a LOT. Well done for spotting this, can’t believe this has slipped through. I can’t believe that it’s intentional, they’d have to know someone would spot it with how much microscopic differences and min/maxing make in these games.
I was tha same, got tons of copies but nothing new... but now I am almost relieved I did not invest in sth it does not work anyway.
I was holding my summon crystals to this, ignored Anora totally, even knowing that I would not be able get her after, all for Lucius. I spended everything that I could on him, and I not even got him. Got just a Cerberus and a Seraphine, both not even in the banner. I accepted my bad luck and moved on, but now I'm mad. If I knew this BS before I would hold my crystals or invested it on Anora. I feel deceived. I hope a great reparation from the devs, or I'm probably quiting this game.
The world dumped im assuming millions of dollars to get lucious for his buff removing ability witch does nothing... Man the money hungry marketing of corporations is crazy and also very smart
Really well done vid!
Good that you adressed this so well, cause if not i would have made a vid that would probably have been a bit too unhinged, cause i have some additional insight on this.
Cause for me its ok to have a bug, but then just stand by it, adress it, say yeah we get it, we are working on it and all is good, but the crazy thing is that a Guy from my Community came up to me about Semrahs bugs and wanted to know whats true now and what not, cause he wrote to Support about it and they said, no this is how its supposed to work????
Like what??
U dont need to lie about smth that obvious even a toddler would see there is smth wrong, why all of a sudden the visual buff of like 10 shield stacks of semrah insta disappears when lucius ults who can only get rid of 4?
For me it just is, hey look its okey to have bugs even the biggest games on the planet have bugs, but please just address them say ur working on it and stand by it, but dont start saying oh thats how its supposed to work.
Ofc it is just someone from support, but still like just be honest and open about it, and if that person from support didnt know that semrah wasnt fixed, well then im sorry intern communication needs to be improved.
man I TOTALLY hear you on this. The support know nothing. Which is insanely annoying but whatever. The thing that kills me is how confidently they just say completely incorrect things. They should just admit they don't know and say "We will check with the devs." Would be a cop out but at least not a lie...
@@fastidious_gg For Sure! It shouldnt be that hard really..
Thank you for your work and pointing this out. This is realy bad.I realy hope they will fix this ASAP
Great video - and thank you for showing this to others as well as proofing it for the developers.
From a coding perspective - I have read many times now, that the Anti-Heal "bug" got fixed so fast, but here it seems to take way longer. I have no access to the code, but it might be a bit more tricky to remove/fix this bug than the Anti-Healing one. I am very certain that the developers are aware of this situation and certainly doing their best to find a solution - again that is just my assumption. Of course it is annoying, but with so much going on in this game right now, I think it will take a bit until this will be fixed.
I am not taking side with anyone - I try to see it objectively and hope that others can so too. It is such a wonderful game and the community is great and so are the developers, I am sure it will be fixed soon - after all they are not Plarium!
I‘m with you that this has to be fixed like asap but always remember Moonton did a generous and really good job with the player Base this is their first major mistake. Company’s like Plarium were scamming people for so much longer. WoR is still a good game with a lot of potential.
They need to fix this but I’m not sure if it’s worth it to unleash the mob angry torch waving gamers if you know what I mean. ^^
Thanks for making this video and pointing these things out, man. This community is lucky to have such a content creator. Now I finally know what was the source of my huge frustration for wasting 4 hours of my life trying to figure out, why things are not working out for me in this content. The first week, I was able to make 30k, second week and this week, I hardly get over 20k. I invested to Lucious to help me out, another waste. By the way it seemed to me today that Marri stopped being able to causing dmg reduction stucks during the first phase with her crowd controll skills.
Thanks once again for being loud with these things, because yes, esentially they gave us a new content with freebies, but they still mislead us to invest time, efforts and resources to be able to achieve the best rewards possible and it is just a waste, which is not cool.
You are as always much appreciated, man!
I am not even surprised actually. The devs seem very very bad at programming. Moonton is greedy and lazy, I really thought they were different but I've been warning people for bs like this for months and people just laughed or said "nO YoU'Re wRoNg" or "just bUy mOrE".
Still better than Plarium with Raid.
@@palagrin1269 that's the thing. They're literally turning into raid.
@@Binzob Really? I have heard the opposite and people said that Moonton wasn't nearly as predatory and bad as i.e Plarium. I do kinda accept the "you're dumb" label that you want to place on me. I was basically just hoping that this game wouldn't do what literally every similar game has done. At least I haven't spent anything in game for months and I most likely won't because of how they are running this clown show!
This occurs with players heroes in arena too and any buffs in all content.
Buffs are not treated as positive status effects which can be removed.
Only time buffs are removed is via timer if they are timed buffs.
Whereas debuffs can be removed and can expire
Kind of was wondering why my healers were dieing. GG fastidious, hope it gets fixed soon
Thanks for this Fasti... Most of us only have 1 dispeller (Midan). I pulled hundreds of rare summons for Lucius for aegis shield stage.. Now he is useless. Therefore any second team I use is decimated by the poisons and my main team can't deal with the aegis shields... Compensate with Elowyn please Moonton.
Nice. By the way, did any of you tried to remove any buffs with Lucius, outside gb2? He does nothing. I tried a couple times, and he's useless. Like the ult is only intended to work on gb2. It is indeed a scam
Thanks Fasti.
I've been using him in my team but I guess it's kind of pointless lol.
I'll keep my ear to the ground so please keep us updated.
What a great video! This is SHOCKING! I can't believe they didn't know this was the case. I didn't go ham to get a champion that would remove buff-symbols! This needs to be fixed and MASSIVE compensation should be given to people who invested so heavily in Lucious.
Feel kinda crappy using resources to pull for him now. Especially in the wake of turbo fixing the bug that made Sem easy and fake fixing this
The thing I hate so far is luscious alt mode thing. Like it always activates and ruins using the ult to clear buffs, it should be a thing or be a choice to use, not randomly activated
I've been saying, if the boss is normal(also just get +1 buff and not this bs he it get +5,+6 immediately if we diapel), the Lucius before changes is better cause you can always pop his ult and he will just dispel the buff along the way instead of now that we need to wait for the right time and have a chance for his demon mode trigger instead.
Such a joke, Lucius is not the problem from the beginning its the boss itself.
Hate to play devils advocate but I never believed there would be new, high reward late game content released and then we are immediately handed a relatively easy to obtain cheat code. They should change the wording or visuals maybe but not make significant changes to Lucius or the boss mechanics. It’s supposed to be hard. And yes I have Lucius.
Even with him is hard , my account is not bad at all i have him and his lego lord and i am still stuck at 22k on first difficulty and 8k on second. The boss is a massive account hero (lords) check .
Nope, there is definetely cheat code for this boss. People already 120k++ this boss with those cheat code. Praeteus, carnelian, elowyn.
There are also heroes like nazeem and thallen who completely shut up +12 stack stun for first phase.
But to reach 120k+ we need heroes that do dmg, survive, buff. So there is cost value which hero should be able to do it and it would not sounds good for just anyone.
Why don't they play test their new content before releasing them? Moonton should come out and give transparency especially to their customers who spend $$$$ during this event. And also it's this game's anniversary
I was actually in shock when I saw this myself, because they release a character to deal with an issue.. and it does nothing even if you time it all perfectly. It also means you do less dmg as the same stacks increase damage reduction for semrah still remain. Fix please!
LITERALLY. just a wild L
Thank you for finally exposing this. It’s been very frustrating
Well this pisses me off considering I went all out on my Lucius with skill crystals…..
great video! What about the dmg we do to the boss? I'm guessing lucius dispels doesnt work either
I used my semrah keys allready. I allways do my runs with alistair or volka so i dont know if the damage reducing debuff works. It seems so bugged that now I dont trust a single thing. Ill test as much as possible from monday and report the issues. I can go distance in the fight got 140k this week so i can check all the fases and damage increase to round 5-6
Well thanks for confirming my observation. I had that negative damage/survivability results with Lucius - basically it was as bad as before the fix and running it auto or timing it had 0 impact.
Ok maybe the fix was not live in Aegis mode, then saw them dispelling and it looked fixed - then numbers did not improve after the dispel. Then ran in multiple times and my outcome was pathetic to say the least.
I finally took out Lucius out of rotation and made him part of my junk second team...
May I ask to please take care of yourself. It happens and no one died - please let’s see the response first. It is important for your mental health and wellbeing to not be affected as strongly by someone else’s mistakes.
I used Lucius to attack Semrah last week and this week. In my mind, it was working normally, especially since Lucius is already strong by default and dealt more than 100M damage. However, I got stuck precisely at the shield phase. (I found it strange not being able to get through due to lack of damage and some heroes die, especially since it was easy until then, but I accepted it)
Now we know the reason, thank you Fasti!
It would be interesting if they rewarded everyone who used Lucius to attack Semrah last week and this week with something like double the reward, or two more keys to attack the boss again, something like that... or better than that.
Thank you so much for bringing attention to this issue! I was really excited to use lucius for GB2, but he has not been useful for me at all
A thing i noticed is that the shield keeps the 6 section lighten up of blue even if you buff dispel and that's where the scaling dmg comes i think and when you buff dispel the light on the shield should turn off since from how it's written the stacks should mirror the blue light on his shield but those never go away so ones he reach 6 semrah it's always at max dmg
Keep it up! Doing a great work, Fastidious. Thank you.
I want my 257 summons back Moonton, I should have just pulled for Anora...
I think lucius only dispels the dmg reduction on Semrah. Would be way to strong if it also removes the Attack from Semrah. Test if the dmg reduction is dispelled before calling mirrage and shiet lile that
Does the dmg done by heroes even go up when stacks removed 😮
@@Feboo87 this is what I would like to know. The earth's shatter increase is attached when a stack of hardening is added but I don't believe removing hardening removes the stacks added to earth's shatter as they are independent of one another. Hardening is a buff while the attack increase is an effect triggered each time the buff is gained.
@@SoldierBoy13nah, it should be all, dmg increase, dmg reductiom, extra dmg should tied to hardening stack. If not Lucius or any future dispeler is just trash, better of use better dps. People also should now, Semrah by itself everytime it changes phase, already getting powered up so lucius and his mechanic will not entirely make phase 2 so easy, we still need top of the line team comp to be able to 120k.
For me it's really a simple fix of treating all buffs as positive status effects and using cleanse coding to reduce them to 0 with a dispel.
But it is a lot of work recoding every buff to act that way and pretty sure each buff will need to be done individually as in some content buffs are permanent. This is no quick fix and we must be patient.
Fasti out here doing the lords work. Seems unintentional with Lucius being "broken" and "fixed" once already. Seems the mechanics aren't working as intended, hope they sort it out bc I used like a months worth of summons to ensure I got Lucius for this boss 😂
well the 5 dispel fix is HUGE! but for it mean something they gotta fix this completely bugged boss interaction
Will you look at that, when it comes to bugs that benefits the community they are very fast and give 0 fucks on how they do it, however when it comes to their bug it takes forever for them to fix it, another good job for moonton to push players away from their game.. Lucky we have content creators like fasti who are concern about these things..
They will now fix this issue by "Boss like Semrah are unaffected by debuff effect" and it only works on mobs. There Hero bugg fix. It should not be taking out the aegis shields.
Debuffs are classed as negative status effects and can be cleansed to 0.
Buffs you'd think would be treated in same way as positive status effects. And could be reduced to 0 when dispelled.
Yet buffs are not treated this way.
Buffs are only visually removed.
This occurs with all buffs.
Semrah is not the only bugged content.
It occurs with everything every single buff can not be removed.
They just temporarily hidden visually.
This occurs in every mode.
Yet debuffs can be cleansed to 0.
Why is it they got it so wrong because buffs are not treated as positive status effects.
it is insane man...
Damn I hope they get on this, anyone deserves that chance but they will loose so much $ if they don't hurry
Thank you for the detailed video!! Fantastic job, do you know if it works the same when attacking him? I mean, does stacks matter while dealing damage or are those the same than the bug you're showing?
Thank you for doing the Lord's work. I went crazy for luscious and this is very frustrating.....
Thank you for exposing this! Hopefully Moonton fixes this soon. I spent over 400 pulls trying to get as many copies of Lucius as possible and was very disappointed in his performance on GB2.
And devs didint know this? They convinced us to spend money or long time saved crystals for hero which is useless if he can’t dispel boss mechanic properly and then what? They going to send us 100 diamonds sorry? Embarrassing
And the boss would likely have the def and dmg reduction up… thanks for the amazing effort put into this
Is it possible that Lucius has to remove the buffs before the Earth Shatter charge bar reaches the end? It could be that the damage is calculated at the moment the bar finishes and anything that happens after that doesn't affect it. Your timing of Lucius is before the damage numbers appear, but after the bar has already fully charged. Maybe try again with Lucius ult going off before the Earth Shatter bar completes.
it could also be that the damage is calculated at the start of the charging process right as the bar appear
This reminds me of the ‘80s movie Poltergeist! “you left the bodies and you only moved the headstones!”
Thanks for doing this Fasti. I have been saying it was BS in the wor discord for a while and was getting downvoted. Glad you're able to get the word out as a content creator you're doing gods work
It was something a bit expected when you see the buff counter is not tied to Lucius buff removal.
Seems they went on a lazy implementation without considering buff removal was a thing
Nice catch Fasty. I did feel that Lucius didn't do anything to save my team previously.
Cries in A5 huge waste of money
only a waste if they do not fix this. let's make some noise to make sure they hear us and do what is right
Chinese producer, what are you expecting
Claim : im chinese lol
Great Video Fasti you really put alot of effort in to break it all down. Now let's hope the Devs review your video and fix this ASAP as it stands Lucius is basically a useless hero now when he was supposed to be a goat.
Very disappointing from the devs may have been an accident but if it's not fixed as fast as the anti heal bug it really shows alot about the company and I'm not looking to play a Raid 2.0
@Binzob if they don't fix it with some speed it's very shady of the company and shows character, I get they gave Lucius a buff and that was great, also they have had weeks to notice/fix it. Don't forget this has been on the forerunner sever even before it came to global. I'm no coder but I really don't think this is a massive fix like your implying.
Yes Lucius is in my opinion a GOAT for this specific content you said it yourself I agree in other areas of the game he's on par with others
@Binzob regardless of how you feel about forerunner they basically use it as a test server and just to be clear I totally understand how things like this can be over looked but if they don't come out with at a minimum a statement about this issue but are magically able to fix a bug that was "good" for the players overnight it doesn't look very good on them.
Once again the savior thanks for bringing this up bro you did a great job hope it gets fixed soon
Since I literally went crazy for lucius pull 4 leggos before i pull him and costed me alot ....
You know, this might be because you won't remove the buffs during the aegis mode bar. You wait till right before the damage.
What if when the Aegis mode bar completes, it locks in the buffs for the damage until the next cycle.
I understand what you're saying and it probably should work that way, but if you haven't, try removing while the aegis mode bar is still ticking down.
i tried both ways. same result
Seems the atk down debuff only effects the character that put it on. Volka applying the debuff took less dmg each time
Wow.. this is also very important.. @fastidious, can you test this too?
Shieeet... No wonder I was keep dying in second phase
I not only used a TON of saved summon resources and gems to get Lucius (he was clearly the one most people were pulling for on that banner, and I personally decided to prioritize getting him over the limited hero,) but I also used a TON of saved resources to immediately get all his skills etc. THAT is how big we assumed this hero was going to be for the GB2 encounter. I'm choosing to believe the devs will make this right, but for sure they dropped the ball. If any part of this was intentional, as per the skill descriptions they needed to be VERY clear, because their inconsistent skill descriptions means we often have to make guesses about what we THINK the skill deswcription is trying to say, AND if intentional they'd have to KNOW it works in a very non inuitive way compared to every other dispell we see in the game where removed debuffs STAY gone. Also, there is honestly no way they should have released a dispell hero like this without a buffs/debuffs overhaul in game. Let us see buffs and debuffs on non boss enemies. Make a clear indication of NON dispellable buffs (since Lucius is currrently not removing buffs in other encounters) if they intend to have that, and change the terminology when things do not interact with dispells as players would expect. Don't want buffs removable from your brand new GB2 encounter? Then don't release a dispel hero immediately after! Or call the buffs in that stage "Blessings" or something and make it CLEAR that "Blessings" are only temporarily removed. This shit isn't hard to do, and it isn't hard to predict where players will get confused and justifiably angry.
One question: does dispelling the 'buff icons' increase the damage done to Semrah? Not that it makes any real difference overall, but since the Aegis stacks also increase his defense, does removing the 'visual buffs' at the very least increase his damage taken? Basically, does Lucius do anything at all, or is absolutely everything broken? Also, after he dispels the 'icons', do they all immediately return on his next Aegis cast, or do they start over? If they don't start over from nothing, then even if dispels worked perfectly and decreased the damage on the next attack, it would still be pretty pointless unless Lucius was always ready to use his ability on the next Earth Shatter...
Thats the thing, as of right now the boss interaction with buff removal is broken.
Boss supposed to get only "1" buff at time, but if Lucius removed it, now it gets whatever amount that has been removed+1. This is could be the first indicator that the buff "was never" been removed in the code. Im afraid as fasti said, as of right now its all just visual cleansing, it did not touch the mwchanism at all
I would be outraged by this, but I'm so trash at strategy that GB2 is out of my league, so nothing really changes for me.
So trying to have a window of opportunity to breathe is not even available since the buffs still technically stay with the boss and you're not removing anything
Happy birthday WOR 😂
To be fair, I think they just fumbled the dispel enemy mechanism. It was the first one, and it is just not ready. Probably a victim of a birthday rush.
I agree. The main reason to pull Lucius was GB2. He’s almost useless in it.
his dispel is LITERALLY useless. Watch the vid you will see it's just a visual trick to think something is happening
@@fastidious_gg good that i pulled him to a5 and maxed all skills.... saved 3 moths for that banner >:>
@@davidk5990 i mean Lucius works very well now. It is just that the boss is ignoring it because it is bugged. When they fix this, Lucius will be nice and strong
What really rubs me the wrong way is the anti heal bug was fixed immediately.
@@Super-Snix yes I am 100% with you. If it helps the players there is a huge rush. If it hurts the players they take as much time as they want :/
When you hope for complicated to stretch you brain muscles, But end up in the emerald kingdom
I noticed the weird rock dmg when I first tried lucius yesterday but cant figure out why.😅
This is bullshit. I summond all I got from months. 500+ just for Gb2-Lucius...Big regret, disapointed in the game
So they get 24-36 hours to fix it right? That’s how quickly they fixed the anti heal. I understand giving them time but it goes both ways.
antiheal was fixed in about 24hrs flat....
@@fastidious_gg I was being generous
@@Viceroy0187 good guy vice
@@fastidious_gg it needs to be fixed for this weeks tries though. If not they owe us extra.
no way they fix this weekend. they always take the weekend off
At this point I just want to refund the resources I put into leveling up Lucius… Totally unusable especially he freaking turns into a mode if you want to time when to use it… like wtf the ultimate is the ONLY reason we need you here!!
Also maybe I am not doing it right but Lucius can really dispel only 1 time since we can’t get the ultimate fast enough and boss will get all the stacks back so the next time we will still wipe…