I'm happy to see you are making an effort to protect your back. I'm 60 and there are days I can barely get out of my chair. Please take care. When I was young and working on my home, I thought I was indestructible.
Spray foam looks like a pain in the a$$. Hope it gets easier as you go along. The boat is looking better. You guys are doing a great job. I know you see it all the time and I only see it in videos so it’s easier for me to see the progress. Have a great day!
An another lovely upload, great work with this narrowboat. I hope you can enjoy beautiful weather with this boat. Thanks for sharing. I wish you all the best. Best Regards ♥
Thank you! The heat is proving quite a challenge for working at the minute but we're just taking it a bit slower and enjoying the process as much as we can!
#1: I'm surprised that the sprayfoam is that popularly amongst you boaters. It's not a joke but wool from australian sheep is by far the best insulation you can have. It's ventilating (almost no moisture to take care of), it's environmentally friendly, easy to use, and not to costly. ie your boat is not already foamed... #2: If you hadn't considered already; electric upwords and water downwords except for where you have an electric pump... #3: Your vlogs are both funny and informative! #4: keep on vlogging!
We've heard of sheets will being a great insulator, been used for centuries hasn't it? Yes good shout on the Water downwards, gravity holds no prisoners in case of a leak! Thank you!
I have been looking for sheep wool insulation in Europe. Specific in holland. Debating between it and spray foam for a dutch barge. Anyone out there know of a source
There is an old, old tool that used to be used for making wooden shingles; basically a thick knife blade roughly a foot and a half long, between two wooden handles. I once saw one used to trim spray-foam insulation on some home handyman TV show. It worked sort of like a cheese slicer on the TV show--except the slices were wide. The workman lined the blade up against the wall studs, then pulled down to shear through the foam, trimming it back to the level of the studs quickly and evenly. Know of any blacksmith shops or farm tool dealers in your area?
You have patience of a saint I wouldn’t know where to start or what to do. Must be such a awesome feeling to fit out and know ur boat so well. Well done to u both.
As a fan of foam insulation there will be no condensation w/out air flow between the steel & foam & in the worst case of sinking the foam would not likely need to be replaced & might keep the boat near the surface for easy re-floating ($2400 vs $8000)
Applied properly it definitely is the best insulation, we just wish we had a chance to line the battens properly before it was sprayed as the previous owner appears to have been in a rush!
Dannie, Jo, What a great Vlog. You guys must be worn out with all this manual hard work. but you are doing so well. Hope you enjoyed your well deserved meal. Take care.
That looks like painting the fourth road bridge never ending you need a medal mate good luck just subscribed and liked your channel this looks like it's going to be interesting and dam hard work ☺👍
The oscillating multi tool you bought to use for your foam will make quick work of cutting various things, like outlet holes in wood and dry wall. It's a very versatile tool. If you haven't already, look into all you can do with it.
Looks like you doing an excellent job. I wouldn’t worry too much about neighbours I’m sure offering them a few beers down the local pub or a fruit basket will sweeten situation. Plus you don’t want to get heat stroke. Happy boating 😊
Hi guys, your carrying out a top notch super awesomeness job, on your super narrowboat,it's slowly becoming together so magnificently. I bet you can't wait for the finished project,I to be completed I can see the both of you are having a time of your life,I think it's totally superb,have a wonderful weekend,,,tony ⭐️👍🛥
Great work guys! loved the ending " spray foam is the best!" I have heard many people have the same issue on cutting it all back - it is worth remembering it one of those jobs (hopefully) you only do once! Keep up the great work Myles and Marina (Cruising Alba)
So lovely to see your progress but I know it comes with a huge amount of hard work from you both! Do you know if there are marinas in Somerset? I would love to have my boat there when I buy it later this year. Have a lovely, and well earned rest, this evening! x
Looks like the correct preparation wasn’t done prior to the spray foam insulation being applied. I would recommend the battens being covered with tape such as the black polyurethane black cloth tape that I had put on mine, before spray-foaming took place; only £1.59 a roll from Zoro tools - 10m long, 50mm wide. It might take a couple of hours or so to ‘tape-up’, but it does make things so much easier as there isn't any, or very limited, cutting back to do along the length of the battens. Ein sight is a curious thing. Enjoying your vlog, BTW 😉
Thank you, yes definitely would've been easier had the prep work done - typically we bought the boat pre insulated so wasn't until we started scraping back that we realised how much of a job we had on our hands!
@@ItsOhJoe Dah!!! Didn’t realise it was already insulated! Anyway, you’re both doing a great job. I find those multitools a really ‘must-have’ when undertaking DIY work, especially on my boat fitout.
Danny, Joe !! We're about to make our first steps to getting out of the system (ish) and onto a boat. would like your opinion on insulation. I know you're pretty new to it too but being there, doing it is closer than we are.... would you rule out a sheet insulated boat against a foam insulated (if both were correctly installed of course) love to you both and keep smiling 🙂
Spray foam insulation itself it great and gets into all the odd shapes of a boat hull. There’s also no need for a vapour barrier as the foam is bonded directly (worth reading into but that’s what we believe). Just yeah make sure all of the battens are securely in place where you need them before getting someone to foam!
One step at a time you know. I really like the spray but all mechanical and framing are in place when I apply it. In a boat like yours I may have gone with a skim coat and rockwool. But hey its easy to say from my chair....Ha
Thank you! Yeah it would be a different story if we'd have had a chance to install the batten properly but the boat came pre sprayed, on curved surfaces (like our ceiling) it's save a lot of time.
I’m a few weeks away from spray foaming my project boat, I was wondering on your thoughts on the whole process, now you’ve gone through it would have rather used insulation board? I worried about moisture behind the board, at least with foam it seals to the metal/paint
Our boat came pre spray foamed so we didn't have a chance of securing the battens properly/ensuring they're in the right places to start with so it's not the insulations fault in it's defence. Our advice would be to ensure the battens are secure and then taped off to ensure easy removal of excess foam!
Standard practice with spray foam is to screw 1/2" wooden battons to the metal frame and then attach the boards to that. Anywhere that there is exposed metal from the boat frame and boat skin is a condensation spot. The way you have done it may lead to issues. I believe there is meant to be an air gap between the boards and the foam insulation. You may have gained 1" on the boat interior (which is good) but sacrificed the longevity of the interior. Still a great video though, but thought I should say something incase you hadnt realised. I hope other people with 'expert' knowledge can confirm or refute what I have written, or if you could maybe explain why your method is better.
Thank you! Yes in an ideal world we'd like to have had the chance of fitting all the battens securely ourselves and then have the boat spray foamed but the boat already came sprayed! The majority of the walls do have an air gap which is good, although it's just near the top where there's little gap.
I once used that expanding foam that comes in an aerosol contraption, that came with a warning that if got on clothing, if not removed immediately, can only be Mechanically Removed. They were dead right, i ruined a near decent pair of WORKING jeans and nearly took my skin off trying to clean up. Everything has its perfect use, but User Beware. If it comes to using wool, which is very cheap in England, it is now beginning to replace fibre glass as it is cheap and there is a plentiful supply.
Spray foam, is it worth it... short answer = Nope! Better off using good quality paint to protect metal against condensation build up inside and use sheep wool as the insulation screwing battens directly to the boat frame... Live and learn, you know for you next boat though now!
The boat came pre spray foamed and I think had the battens been checked and secured properly prior to being sprayed it might've been a slightly different story, on the curved ceiling it's definitely easier - the square sides I'm not so sure though!
@@ItsOhJoe Ah right, sorry I didn't know it was pre-sprayed. On the plus side then, at least you didn't have to prep the entire inside and pay for the job to be done! Electric carving knife may be your best friend then to flatten the sides?. Loving the series so far by the way...
You have absolutely ruined the spray foam you should have got some good advice before you started and now you have ruined that you really should have sealed the back of that plywood before you put it in
@@ItsOhJoe the spray foam seals air getting to the steel then you get no condensation the thing you should have done is every place you cut away the foam you should have got a spray foam gun and resealed it with foam it was obviously not your fault the boat was badly battered before it was foamed
I'm happy to see you are making an effort to protect your back. I'm 60 and there are days I can barely get out of my chair. Please take care. When I was young and working on my home, I thought I was indestructible.
Joe's family come from a trade background and have suffered quite a bit with bad backs so we've learnt from them! Thank you.
Hard work but its slowly coming together. Well done guys.
Thank you!
Youre both really putting a hell of a lot of effort in there...... respect.. and always keeping every thing tidy that`s a good way to work
Thanks Paul! Definitely easier to work in a clear space
Doing a great job love watching your videos
Thank you 😊
Spray foam looks like a pain in the a$$. Hope it gets easier as you go along. The boat is looking better. You guys are doing a great job. I know you see it all the time and I only see it in videos so it’s easier for me to see the progress. Have a great day!
Thank you! It's a hell of a project for us but we're taking it on a 'it takes as long as it takes' basis and enjoying it as much as possible!
An another lovely upload, great work with this narrowboat. I hope you can enjoy beautiful weather with this boat. Thanks for sharing. I wish you all the best. Best Regards ♥
Thank you! The heat is proving quite a challenge for working at the minute but we're just taking it a bit slower and enjoying the process as much as we can!
Yay for Danni keeping the teapot full!
Hallelujah!
#1: I'm surprised that the sprayfoam is that popularly amongst you boaters. It's not a joke but wool from australian sheep is by far the best insulation you can have. It's ventilating (almost no moisture to take care of), it's environmentally friendly, easy to use, and not to costly. ie your boat is not already foamed...
#2: If you hadn't considered already; electric upwords and water downwords except for where you have an electric pump...
#3: Your vlogs are both funny and informative!
#4: keep on vlogging!
We've heard of sheets will being a great insulator, been used for centuries hasn't it? Yes good shout on the Water downwards, gravity holds no prisoners in case of a leak! Thank you!
I have been looking for sheep wool insulation in Europe. Specific in holland. Debating between it and spray foam for a dutch barge. Anyone out there know of a source
There is an old, old tool that used to be used for making wooden shingles; basically a thick knife blade roughly a foot and a half long, between two wooden handles. I once saw one used to trim spray-foam insulation on some home handyman TV show. It worked sort of like a cheese slicer on the TV show--except the slices were wide. The workman lined the blade up against the wall studs, then pulled down to shear through the foam, trimming it back to the level of the studs quickly and evenly. Know of any blacksmith shops or farm tool dealers in your area?
No Nails glue is a great medium to stick wood to metal etc,.. xx
You have patience of a saint I wouldn’t know where to start or what to do. Must be such a awesome feeling to fit out and know ur boat so well. Well done to u both.
Thank you!
Lovely Jubbly, great improvements each week, keep up the hard work.
Thank you!
Hi from New Zealand, have just come across your channel, am binge watching to catch up. cheers.
Thank you!
A bread knife is good for cutting foam. Keep it up you are doing well
Thank you, will check if Joe's mum notices one missing out the drawer!
Loving your vlogs folks! And may I just say how much I appreciate your ‘clear and clean as you go’ approach. Best thing! ❤️❤️
Thank you! It definitely makes the boat a nicer place to work, even though it's quite stop start it's such a small space and gets messy quick!
Top work as always. Will be worth all the hard work in the end. Cant wait for the next upload
Thank you!
As a fan of foam insulation there will be no condensation w/out air flow between the steel & foam & in the worst case of sinking the foam would not likely need to be replaced & might keep the boat near the surface for easy re-floating ($2400 vs $8000)
Applied properly it definitely is the best insulation, we just wish we had a chance to line the battens properly before it was sprayed as the previous owner appears to have been in a rush!
Amazing content as allways I can’t wait till your on the canals making beautiful stories for the future
Thank you!
Don’t use silicone dissent stick to very well at all use pink grip or no more nails
We've been using CT1 which is similar, a sort of all in one bonding adhesive rather than just silicone!
Dannie, Jo, What a great Vlog. You guys must be worn out with all this manual hard work. but you are doing so well. Hope you enjoyed your well deserved meal. Take care.
Thank you!!
That looks like painting the fourth road bridge never ending you need a medal mate good luck just subscribed and liked your channel this looks like it's going to be interesting and dam hard work ☺👍
Thank you! We’re hoping to never see insulation again!
It is so fun watching your progression of this build. I can't wait to see how you guys end up decorating!
Thank you! Please don't start Danni off on thinking about decorating yet! But yes can't wait for the finishing touches!
This is awesome guys!!! We are loving the progress!!!! 🙌
Thank you!
The oscillating multi tool you bought to use for your foam will make quick work of cutting various things, like outlet holes in wood and dry wall. It's a very versatile tool. If you haven't already, look into all you can do with it.
Thanks yes they're really handy, we've bought the sanding head attachment for the hard to reach areas!
It would be messy, but an angle grinder with a 40 grit flap disc would make quick and precise work of clearing the foam.
Hadn't thought of a grinder & a flap disc, that would certainly clear it quickly!
Multi tool is the way to go
Going to trial a couple of different blades on the other side!
Was I the only one to Joe take a ‘time out’ on the throne in the outtakes?
Well spotted!
Looks like you doing an excellent job. I wouldn’t worry too much about neighbours I’m sure offering them a few beers down the local pub or a fruit basket will sweeten situation. Plus you don’t want to get heat stroke. Happy boating 😊
I’m pretty sure you can get away with anything along the tow path so long as you’ve got beer!
Hi guys, your carrying out a top notch super awesomeness job, on your super narrowboat,it's slowly becoming together so magnificently.
I bet you can't wait for the finished project,I to be completed I can see the both of you are having a time of your life,I think it's totally superb,have a wonderful weekend,,,tony ⭐️👍🛥
Thanks so much!
Great work guys! loved the ending " spray foam is the best!" I have heard many people have the same issue on cutting it all back - it is worth remembering it one of those jobs (hopefully) you only do once!
Keep up the great work
Myles and Marina (Cruising Alba)
Oh wow, hey you two! Thank you so much. Yes fingers crossed it’s a one time job haha. You too. Danni & Joe
keep up the good work on the boat stay safe lee
Thank you!
So lovely to see your progress but I know it comes with a huge amount of hard work from you both! Do you know if there are marinas in Somerset? I would love to have my boat there when I buy it later this year. Have a lovely, and well earned rest, this evening! x
Thank you! Yes there's plenty of marina's along the Kennet & Avon although they're quite popular so usually a bit of a waiting list
Looks like the correct preparation wasn’t done prior to the spray foam insulation being applied. I would recommend the battens being covered with tape such as the black polyurethane black cloth tape that I had put on mine, before spray-foaming took place; only £1.59 a roll from Zoro tools - 10m long, 50mm wide. It might take a couple of hours or so to ‘tape-up’, but it does make things so much easier as there isn't any, or very limited, cutting back to do along the length of the battens. Ein sight is a curious thing.
Enjoying your vlog, BTW 😉
Thank you, yes definitely would've been easier had the prep work done - typically we bought the boat pre insulated so wasn't until we started scraping back that we realised how much of a job we had on our hands!
@@ItsOhJoe Dah!!! Didn’t realise it was already insulated! Anyway, you’re both doing a great job. I find those multitools a really ‘must-have’ when undertaking DIY work, especially on my boat fitout.
Looking good already.
Thank you!
What are the batons for please? Will soon be working on my narrowboat build with zero knowledge and no handy skills 😅 fun times aha
Ahh bless you! So the battens attach to the steel and they allow you to fit the ply lining etc
Looking good!
Thank you!
Danny, Joe !! We're about to make our first steps to getting out of the system (ish) and onto a boat. would like your opinion on insulation. I know you're pretty new to it too but being there, doing it is closer than we are.... would you rule out a sheet insulated boat against a foam insulated (if both were correctly installed of course) love to you both and keep smiling 🙂
Spray foam insulation itself it great and gets into all the odd shapes of a boat hull. There’s also no need for a vapour barrier as the foam is bonded directly (worth reading into but that’s what we believe). Just yeah make sure all of the battens are securely in place where you need them before getting someone to foam!
Your kettle shows character.
Haha indeed!
Nice job dude 🙂🇬🇧✌️
Thank you!
One step at a time you know. I really like the spray but all mechanical and framing are in place when I apply it. In a boat like yours I may have gone with a skim coat and rockwool. But hey its easy to say from my chair....Ha
Thank you! Yeah it would be a different story if we'd have had a chance to install the batten properly but the boat came pre sprayed, on curved surfaces (like our ceiling) it's save a lot of time.
I’m a few weeks away from spray foaming my project boat, I was wondering on your thoughts on the whole process, now you’ve gone through it would have rather used insulation board? I worried about moisture behind the board, at least with foam it seals to the metal/paint
Our boat came pre spray foamed so we didn't have a chance of securing the battens properly/ensuring they're in the right places to start with so it's not the insulations fault in it's defence. Our advice would be to ensure the battens are secure and then taped off to ensure easy removal of excess foam!
@@ItsOhJoe ok thanks, I’m fairly new to the channel, enjoying the adventure 👍
Standard practice with spray foam is to screw 1/2" wooden battons to the metal frame and then attach the boards to that. Anywhere that there is exposed metal from the boat frame and boat skin is a condensation spot. The way you have done it may lead to issues. I believe there is meant to be an air gap between the boards and the foam insulation. You may have gained 1" on the boat interior (which is good) but sacrificed the longevity of the interior. Still a great video though, but thought I should say something incase you hadnt realised. I hope other people with 'expert' knowledge can confirm or refute what I have written, or if you could maybe explain why your method is better.
Thank you! Yes in an ideal world we'd like to have had the chance of fitting all the battens securely ourselves and then have the boat spray foamed but the boat already came sprayed! The majority of the walls do have an air gap which is good, although it's just near the top where there's little gap.
Totally unrelated question: What is the name of that fantastic song you play at the beginning of your vlog -- I have to add it to my library!
Thank you, do you use epidemic sound? I will just check when I’m home!
@@ItsOhJoe no, but I hopeful that I can find the track on Apple or Amazon music.
The song is called ‘He said it all’ by OTE ft LaKesha
@@ItsOhJoe Brilliant! Thank you so much.
That should have said, the narroboat that james built reccomend your videos.
James is great, thank you!
I once used that expanding foam that comes in an aerosol contraption, that came with a warning that if got on clothing, if not removed immediately, can only be Mechanically Removed. They were dead right, i ruined a near decent pair of WORKING jeans and nearly took my skin off trying to clean up. Everything has its perfect use, but User Beware. If it comes to using wool, which is very cheap in England, it is now beginning to replace fibre glass as it is cheap and there is a plentiful supply.
I think we’re going to top up some of the gaps with that stuff so thanks for the heads up!
Where were those knee protectors!??!
Guilty!
For those weird angles, research tick stick, it was a tool used by boatmen building boats, here's one link
th-cam.com/video/Cd2LY857oTY/w-d-xo.html
Thank you! We will check these out
Learn from the Heron, less movement means more meat!
Very philosophical!
an electric carving knife. x
Thank you!
Hundreds of miles of canal and you can’t find a place to park the boat close to a car park?
We're not that blessed in the K&A & not worth moving the boat 20 miles when it can be walked! Helps get the step count up anyway
Spray foam, is it worth it... short answer = Nope! Better off using good quality paint to protect metal against condensation build up inside and use sheep wool as the insulation screwing battens directly to the boat frame... Live and learn, you know for you next boat though now!
The boat came pre spray foamed and I think had the battens been checked and secured properly prior to being sprayed it might've been a slightly different story, on the curved ceiling it's definitely easier - the square sides I'm not so sure though!
@@ItsOhJoe Ah right, sorry I didn't know it was pre-sprayed. On the plus side then, at least you didn't have to prep the entire inside and pay for the job to be done! Electric carving knife may be your best friend then to flatten the sides?. Loving the series so far by the way...
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if you turned the music down the neighbors won't be disturbed.
What if we offered them a beer instead?
:)
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You have absolutely ruined the spray foam you should have got some good advice before you started and now you have ruined that you really should have sealed the back of that plywood before you put it in
What would your advice have been? The boat was already spray foamed when we bought her & the plywood is hardwood throughout
@@ItsOhJoe the spray foam seals air getting to the steel then you get no condensation the thing you should have done is every place you cut away the foam you should have got a spray foam gun and resealed it with foam it was obviously not your fault the boat was badly battered before it was foamed