That's great to hear, I was thinking for small change one would swap out those screws to SS, not sure why they didn't sue SS in the first place. Love when companies listen. Great review as always, would love an in depth review comparing all the companies including Promediagear to RRS, Gitzo, FLM, etc. I'm sure there's slight size difference and details.
Thanks for a stellar review, Nick. The screws are an issue, and I must admit, not considering those who shoot in salty conditions was likely an oversight by the designers. But I'd like everyone to know that I'm already addressing the issue with the factory. We always deal with problems and corrections immediately, and we can re-design minor things such as this on-the-fly. You can expect that every new CP34 (yes, there's a smaller version) or CP38 tripod we make from now on will have stainless steel screws at the apex. And anyone who has already bought one of these tripods will have a free retrofit, if they want it. I'll also find out why the leg angle locks caused a problem for you. These three screws hold the 100mm platform in place, but when you use a half-ball, they're removed, along with the platform, in order to use the built-in 100mm bowl. I'll be checking in here to see if anyone has other concerns or comments. Thank you again, Nick, and thanks to all of you here for commenting and asking questions. Ari - FLM USA & Canada
Customer Service appears to be top notch, and I am in the market for a new sturdy ball head ;-p Seriously though, it's really good to hear you address these very minor issues, and I'll be sure to check out FLM ball heads, especially being a Canadian company :) How have I not heard of you guys??🤷♂️
@@ItsWillLee Simple: we don't do any advertising :) Actually, we do rely heavily on word-of-mouth and honest reviews like Nick's. The three divisions of FLM (Euro, Asia, and N.A.) are small companies so we concentrate on quality more than quantity. Thanks, Mr Lee!
@@ItsWillLee For years since my first FLM tripod, better than RRS & Gitzo. On Dpreview I posted my did side by side testing with my FLM & RRS and the FLM reduced vibrations quicker than the RRS and cost 30% more! GET FLM.
Nick, I totally admire what you are doing these days. Free and honest reviews are the 1st thing I look for in product reviews. I for 1 congratulate you for washing your hands from financial gain when doing these videos mate. I love the tripod very much but again sadly, it is too expensive for me as a hobbyist. I just got myself the a9 with the 200-600 G and have just ordered the Yelangu swivel mount from H&B. It hurts my pocket but it is my passion and that is all I have to enjoy. Keep up the good work mate and I wish you all the best in the future. Love your stories you share which inspire me even more.
Hi Nick, I picked up one of the 34mm FLM tripods a couple of weeks back. My decision to go with FLM was motivated in no small part by this review. I really have enjoyed the tripod and value your reviews of products like this.
I have never heard of FLM, but good to know...cool that they changed the foot accessories, as unscrewing the feet is good for drainage and drying out the tripod after use in water. I like that the twist locks are metal, my rubber coated twist locks have separated from the metal, ripped, and fallen off. At some point the shims in the tripod have to be replaced as they crack, and that is the true testament of customer service, if they provide replacement shims at a reasonable price
@@GeoffCooper lol yes, just took a quick peak at your channel and noticed you glamping at Glen Coe under one 😜, I'll be sure to watch some more soon...
Seriously great review. I spent $1300 on a RRS TVC-33S and a BH-55-LR head and it's the best tripod/head combo I've ever owned in 20 years of shooting. But for half the price the FLM looks very inviting. Good to know they fixed the rust problem.
Very good review. I too would be dissappointed in the corrosive prone hardware. On a related note; you reviewed the Feisol Elite tripod a couple of years ago (maybe longer) and your only complaint seemed to be about the lack of a standand size thread at the bottom to install spikes other than ones supplied by Feisol. I purchased that tripod, before I found your review, and found the Feisol spikes to be a total dissappointment. Not being easily defeated, I have arrived at a solution to that problem and can now attach any spike with 3/8" threads to my tripod. I will gladly share the procedure with anyone who has a Feisol Elite and would like to install spikes or claws to the bottom.
Hi Nick Due to you and this video I have just purchased the tripod. I live in the UK informed FLM about you and your video and your the reason I purchased. Thank you
@@NickPage will do thank you.I like your no bull shit videos truth and to the point, Problem we have in the UK is a lot of the products from America are very expensive RRS, promediagear, due to tax and postage on top of the price you pay, But the FLM 38L mkll affordable on my budget. Saving of 4 to £500 that's about $650.
@@NickPage had the tripod for a year its great love it well looked after got insulation pipe foam around the 3 legs top part only protection and keeps your hands from getting cold when carrying it around on winter days.
After watching this and many, many other gear videos, I went ahead and ordered this tripod with the 100mm half ball... for my Missouri ‘non-seascape’ shooting. Upgrading from my Manfrotto mt055cxpro4. Same weight with more stability and reach. Thanks for the recommendation!
Nick, thanks for the review. Glad to see FLM is still working it and competing...the more the merrier! I have the FLM CP-26 which I love for hiking. I use it most of the time since the RRS TVC-34L is, as you might say, a beast. I've had one problem with it: The plastic sleeves atop each leg segment are fragile and tend to break. When that happens, the legs freeze up. I've gradually figured out how to live with these failed items, but wonder if you have experienced similar problems and what FLM has done to overcome them. Thanks much. Gerry
Gerry, send me an email, I'll get you the replacement shims. The new shims will be out in 2020 (because the CP26-Travel is getting an update) and they'll be stronger. Thank you. Ari - FLM
Nice review Nick! I am using the excellent FLM ball head with a RSS clamp on a Gitzo Systematic 4 tripod. You didn’t mentioned the load capacity of the FLM tripod which is, like their ball heads, impressive too. Unfortunately their new series II were not available in Europe. To replace 3 screws is easy to do during a cleaning session.
Nice review as always, Nick! As I shoot a Fuji X-T3 system, I don't need anything this massive. FYI, I did test/review the awesome FLM CP-26 Travel Tripod, and found it to be the most robust, most precision-built tripod I've used in 40 years of commercial photography! Also wanted to give a shout out to Ari of FLM USA & Canada! Ari is a top-notch Professional who values superlative customer service! Thanks, Nick!
Thanks for the very useful review; I've got one on backorder. In light of your problem with the three base screws, one of the first things I'll do when I get the tripod will be to identify the size of those screws and order marine grade SS replacements.
Hi Jeffrey, when you get your tripod (yes, they're on the way as we speak) let me know if the stainless steel replacements are good enough for your uses. We updated these back in November 2019. You can reach me through flmcanada.com Thank you
Mr. Page... Your review skills show a marked improvement. This is the first set of legs I've seen yet that come close to my PMG ( ProMediaGear ) legs. Once they get the SS machine screw issue worked out, they'll be fine. What would have made these 38 mm legs close to perfect would be to incorporate the spikes into the foot pads. Take a look at the PMG website on this. I don't use my spikes that often either, but it is real nice knowing they are always there if/when I need them. My (4) section CF legs are 42 mm at 58" in height & come with (11) 1/4" females in the head as well as the metal slider clamps. FLM has made a very fine tripod here & I wish them success moving forward. Thanks, Bill on the Hill, Vermont, USA... :~)
Looks to be a great tripod and one I’d consider if and when my Gitzo wears out. I don’t that happening anytime to soon but it’s nice to see more competition and it appears as though their customer service is on top of things. Nice review Nick and nice response from FLM!
Nice review Nick. Being able to hang one long leg over an edge and a general height increase are specifically what I am looking for with my next tripod. Does not appear to be a FLM reseller here in Australia. Now that you have dropped sponsors I am guessing you might be trying to figure how to prefect the public announcement. Keeping it short in audio might save the regulars from getting sick of hearing it ....... and send new viewers to a longer explanation in the comments? Anyway liked the review and the move away from sponsorship. Thanks.
Looks awesome. Your review and the newer one comparing the different tripods inspired me to look at and get an FLM. My only thought was that this 38 was a bit big for air traveling (whenever that happens again), so I think the smaller 30 version is ever so slightly better. Even if I have to hunch over a little! Great review, super helpful.
To get around any hassle at the airport with giant tripods like this is I remove the two lower sections and place them on the other side of my pack nice and flat. This makes the whole package far shorter and gives my pack the perception of being more stream lined.
Thanks Nick for being honest about this tripod. I too love seascapes and I would really like the tripod but I would change those screws out for stainless steel ones right from the getgo. It’s a lot of money for some of us and it turns the screws rusty with such a very short time span!! The leg spread on it is really nice. All the best. Graham🇬🇧🇬🇧📷📷
FLM USA & Canada thanks very much, I have now gone through all the comments. It’s a great tripod and I would hate to see it where the screws rusted and you could not get them out. My very old one I used to smear Vaseline jelly on them which worked quite well then gave them a really good clean when I finished shooting!. Thanks again, Graham🇬🇧🇬🇧
I Love It. A couple of years ago, on your recommendation, I bought the FLM 38L tripod. I now have the opportunity to travel the world. How do you travel with a large tripod?
Good looking tripod. I'll stick with my Ifootage Gazelle TC7. Other than the exchangeable feet it has all the features of the FLM yet it is lighter and less expensive. Living on Vancouver Island I shoot lots of seascapes and I've yet to spot a single rust spot. Thanks for this review, it makes me feel even better about my choice.
Nick, Thank's a lot for all your great content, it's very helpful! 👍 Although I live in Germany I never heard about FLM...I am using the BH 50 RRS ball head as well and I was one click away to order the RRS 34L. But in Germany you spent almost 1.600 EUR for the tripod and with your review I will stay local and buy the FML. Thanks again and please keep up your great content! 👍 Greetings, Enno 🙋♂️
Thanks Nick, good to see FLM listens. I used my large Gitso by sea and it took ages to clean out all screw threads etc. Gitso used to make a 'marine' tripod a few years back, at even more of a premium, but stopped selling it (probably on cost grounds). Would like to know which is now best pod for use in/around salt water - any views?
My trusty old travel tripod has been repaired three times in two years and has real problems dealing with the little bit of extra weight from the bigger lenses. This is a brand to consider as a replacement (especially with the promise of all steel screws). Thanks!
I have been looking for a new heavy duty tripod primarily for my 4x5 and Hasselblad 503. This looks very Interesting. At 6’1” I do get tired of leaning over to look through my cameras viewfinder/ground glass. This would fix that.
The FLM tripods Ball heads are German quality I have the FLM CP30-L3 Pro Tripod and CB-48FTR Ball Head with SRB 60 Arca-Type Clamp I have had it for over a year not my first tripod after 55 years behind a camera I have no problems with it I wish the CP 38L was available at the time I bought mine but no regrets great revue Nick thanks.
Looks nice, very similar to my Rollei Rock Solid Alpha but that top locking and ratchet set up looks way nicer to use then the traditional clips the Rollei has.
Hey Nick, I purchased the CP38 L4 II about 6 months ago, and thus far it has been fantastic (if a smidge heavy all things considered). My awesome family gifted me the new CP22 S4 II & CB32F for Christmas, and I think you would really enjoy checking that tripod out for a new travel tripod. Super light, modular, and full of useful features found on FLM's larger tripods.
I use the cp22 for my video camera, I agree the 38 is overkill for a lot of applications, if I am hiking I take my smaller RRS tripod, but if I dont have far to hike, the cp38 is king. I love how small and light the 22 is
Thank you, Nick! Looks great! I'm assuming the lower price because it it made offshore. Another reviewer said China. I don't know if that is true, but it wouldn't surprise me, since it seems most things nowadays are manufactured there. RSS is very local for me -- just a short drive to Lehi. I prefer local in this case. But the reality is, I'm not a pro, and I really don't need a new tripod! But I'm always on the watch for something lighter and sturdier than what I have which probably would be most anything! 😉
Thank you for a honest straight review, I was just about to order a new Tripod. Question for FLM if I order a tripod now will it have the stainless steel screws or will I have to change them out later. I'm heading to Maui soon and will be doing Seascapes.Thanks
Just ordered today my FLM CP-34 M4 II with the "HALF-BALL HB-75" due to your review... and because of a strange english guy I as well ordered an Acratech Panoramic Head to go with it... but doubt you ever heard of him ;-) I really am looking forward to get my grip on it... since now I "only" had a carbon travel tripod from Manfroto, which was a little flimsy and not really capable to handel wind or other forces. Thx for the great review and makeing me spend a huge amount of money ;-)
Thank you for the mini review, one more important subject for seascapes, is the ability of the locking mechanism to prevent salt and sand from entering and staying in the jaws, how good is that? Cause my Sirui XL absolutely sucks (literally)
Hi Nick tripod arrived today got the one that is 68 inch rather then the 74 inch your using also got the FLM ball head CB-48 FTR they complement each other looking forward to getting out. John
Hi John, they are all 68 inches tall, the difference is the leg tube diameter. The "L4" in the name refers to Long leg section, and 4 section legs. These L4 tripods are all 68 inches tall.
@@FLMUSACanada 68 inch that's 5 feet 8 inches tall the one in the video is taller then Nick who says I am 5'9" What I am thinking is Nick could be shorter than 5'9" making the tripod look taller than it is in the video. I know FLM do a CP38 L5 190cm which is 74 inches. How tall is the tripod in this Video
Just wanted to let you all know that the factory will use stainless steel screws in the apex of the CP34-L4 II and CP38-L4 II tripods from now on. The CP30 tripods already use SS screws, go figure. For those who buy a tripod now, I've already sourced the correct size SS screws at the local fastener shop, and I'll include 3 replacement screws with every new tripod. FYI, they're metric M5 x 25, and they sell for $0.29/ea. Thanks to Nick for finding this flaw, and I'm glad the correction could be made so easily and quickly.
Awesome video! Tripods confuse me and the prices of them hurt, do you think the FLM CP30-L4 II 10X Carbon fiber would be fine with a DSLR and a 400MM 2.8? I think i could manage that one financially
I think it would be ok but the Ball head would be important for a lens that big... but, if you have a lens that cost that much, why are you stressed about the cost difference between tripods?
I'm using a cheap Zomei Tripod (~120€) for 5 years now and it still works like it did on the first day. I just had to retighten some screws. I travelled alot with it also went through seawater. All I had to do was to remove some salt. No corrosion no gummyness whatsoever. It's sturdy enough longtime exposures in windy conditions never bothered it. So spending 1k on a tripod (even though it probably is worth it) seems a bit odd to me.
Thanks, Nick. I've been interested in this particular tripod for a while and now I'm convinced that I'll get one. Since this was produced own 2019 has FLM changed those problematic screws to stainless?
I'm shooting a lot of seascapes. Switched from a very mediocre Vanguard to the waterpoof Sirui W2204 - it actually does work as expected and only requires rinsing in a warm water with soap (I'm not affiliated with Sirui in any way). It's also much cheaper than the FLM. But FLM looks like a more solid option as far as I can see, less fragile.
The Feisol competitor to this type of tripod seems to be getting great feedback too, from my friends who have owned it for years, and others I've met who have abused them for years. Also, yeah, I hate lock rubber. All metal leg lock grips FTW! Thats why I love Oben ballheads for budget shoppers.
As a professional boat capt/marine photographer I have to deal with salt water induced corrosion on a daily basis so I feel your pain. Happily there's an easy solution. Go to any marine supply store and ask them for some anti corrosion spray. I use stiff sold by Mercury Outboard company but CRC and others make similar sprays. It forms a waxy coating that protects the metal very effectively. Not a very attractive look but the fastenings you are protecting ate only visible to gophers and woodchucks so that shouldn't be a problem.
I ended up replacing these three screws with stainless steel and the problem is solved but that is a great tip on the corrosion spray. I didn’t know that existed!
An update for everybody: the factory is looking into the grips, and I'll let you know what they find. Nick has updated me to say it was likely just salt build-up, but we'll find out what's going on for sure, let you know of any potential problems. Meantime, I've posted this on our website: www.flmcanada.com/salt.html Thank you Ari - FLM
Hi your website lists this as 173cm max height however looking at it next to Nick its got to be taller? 5ft 9 is 175cm and its way past its head. Please can you let me know. Also do you have any plans to bring this model to UK? thanks
@@samnorland6105 Hi Sam, Maybe Nick was shooting with a wide angle, and the difference between him and the tripod was a visual exaggeration, but the tripod does stand at 68 inches. The UK has the CP30-L5 II (at SpeedGraphic UK); almost the same tripod, but with 5 leg sections. I'm unsure of plans to bring it to the UK; that's up to FLM Germany as Europe is their territory. What I can do is sell you one from here; shipping will be a factor, but it should still come out to less than the cost of the CP38-L5. You can contact me directly through FLM Canada dot com. Thank you
I am leaning towards getting one although I am considering getting the FLM CP30-L4 II which is only 3.1 pounds. Their response in changing the bolts here shows what kind of company that they are
@@NickPage Thanks Nick that was my thought too. I am doing much more hiking this year and plan to do much more next year. So this will work out well for me.
Looks like a winner, especially at that price point! I was going to comment that for $6 you could go on Amazon and buy SS replacement screws, but FLM made that a non issue. I have the ProMedia big daddy t-pod and paid way more for it than the FLM :-(
The locking mechanism is very similar to the one on my Bogen by Manfrotto 190 tripod. I purchased it in 1995. Back in those days I shot film with a Minolta Maxxum 650si date. This tripod is heavy, strong, sturdy and feels like a sledge hammer. I still use it. Works great with my Sony A7RII.
@Nick Page thank you very much for this video. I just received my CP 34 (the slightly smaller/lighter weight version). I couldn't justify the money for a RSS/Gitzo, but as it turns out I didn't need to. This beats both for its height/weight ratio, and at a price that attainable.
Based on your update about the stainless screws, do you now recommend it for all purposes? If so, would you say it is a better buy than RRS since it is $500 cheaper? Thanks.
Nick, are you planning to have the Promediagear 34L tripod reviewed anytime soon? I am saving money to get a high-end tripod and debating between Promediagear, RRS and FLM
Great Review Nick however I don't see myself switching from Manfrotto which for some reason you completely excluded mentioning. For many landscape photographers Manfrotto tripods are one of the go to brands when looking for a well made tripod.
I’ve honestly never thought much of manFrodo tripod’s, I’ve never been a fan of flip locks for one, and for the longest time man Frodo insisted on having a proprietary plate rather than adopting a standard Arkansas is compatible plate. I’ve never seen one I liked
Hey Nick since your setup is now so much lighter, any reason why you are looking at the 38L as opposed to the 34L or even the 30L. I know the tubes are slightly slimmer but I can't imagine going through the PNW hikes lugging ~6 lbs of tripod (5lb legs + 1lb head) on your back in addition to all the other gear. Any thoughts?
Hey Nick thank you for the great review as always! I must ask what I am missing about the maximum height of the reviewed tripod. I looked at the specs and it says 68” but in the video it appears to be much taller. Please let me know what I am missing...lol...thank you in advance
Hey everybody, we have sold out our current run of tripods, thank you to all who contacted us, and a big thanks to Nick! If you want to buy a Series II tripod, you can visit B&H or Adorama on or after November 22. That's when they'll start Black Friday pricing. The sale prices will run until January 6. As always, email me if you have any questions; thanks! Ari - FLM
@@michaeltrue Thank you, Michael; I got your order yesterday and will be able to ship it by Dec 7-8. If you have any questions, you can contact me through FLM Canada dot com.
Whoops! I just sent you an email about purchasing from your website. I just placed the order through B&H. Can't wait to get it!! Thanks @NickPage for the video!
@@blivieriphoto Hi Barbara, you can always contact us for purchase or with any questions, but yes, the sales have moved primarily to the stores. Thanks for writing, happy holidays!
@@deanminett5793 yes, and that's the best tripod I bought so far. its rock solid... flm germany also told me, that the accessories th half ball and the center column will be out soon.
Very nice review Nick. I especially appreciate it because I saw your RRS reviews a few years ago (can’t remember when exactly) and watched you use them in your videos. Your RRS tripod ticked all the boxes for me... tall, serious quality/durability, can go low, leveling base, and a bunch of other cool details. I’ve wanted to get the RRS tripod you have but could never afford it given other photography purchase needs (e.g. lenses). This may be the reason I finally replace my “just getting by until I can afford a right proper tripod” tripod. Thank you!!!
Hello, I have seen your videos about photography tripods, including the FLM brand. I currently have the ProMediaGear TR344L and I am looking for a more rigid tripod like the TR424L or the FLM Atlas 42-L4 Carbon Fiber Tripod, the latter seems very attractive to me for its price of $900 Having used FLM brand tripods (CP 38L), what is your opinion comparing both brands? in terms of quality of materials, stability and vibrations. If I bought the FLM tripod, would I use it with the R3 and the 600 f4 or is the PMG TR424L worth the extra price? Thank you
Looks interesting, especially at that price point. I use a RRS 34L and BH-55 head for my 6x17 camera and Mamiya RZ67 and haven't been let down, but the $500 difference in price does catch one's eye. Looking at both, it would appear the apex on the FLM is an aluminum casting? I believe RRS only uses forged aluminum in all their fittings, which is a big advantage. Do you know if this is true about the FLM model? Thanks for the excellent review...great info and right to the point (unlike those paid-off fanboys pushing the Peak Design travel pod).
No, the FLM aluminum apex is not cast, it's CNC-milled from one chunk of metal. The Series II webpage says as much: www.flmcanada.com/new-series-ii-tripods.html Good question, thanks for asking!
HI Nick- I really enjoy your great videos, thanks. I followed your link in the description, and it listed this model as the cp-38 l4 2, with a max height of 68.3 " which is just over 5'-6". Now, at 4:24, you are standing next to this thing, appearing to be around 4'-6" tall if those numbers are correct. I'm puzzled and amused, cause you appear to be taller in your videos.
You or your viewers should have a look at the Leofoto brand. I have the LN-404C tripod and it's one of the best I've ever owned. It's carbon fibre with beautifully anodized alloy components, goes up to 1.9m tall and can hold 50kg. Priced around the same as the FLM.
I am familiar with Leofoto, and man I cant get on board with them simply because they are one of those "copycat" brands. Everything they make is just a ripoff of other company's designs, mostly Really right stuff. They dont even bother to change the numbering in the names. They are crazy cheap, but I fear in those cases, your getting what you pay for.
@@NickPage I think most product features are copied by one manufacturer or another to some extent nowadays, that's just the way of the world. I don't think RRS (I own at least one of their products) are completely immune from doing this, even if it involves refining the details. That said, the Leofoto I have is without any doubt a very well build tripod and I have no fear that it's going to fall apart any time soon. While the Chinese get a lot of flak (sometimes deservedly) in many cases they have upped their game and produce some of the world's best products. Think drones, gimbals etc, and these are complex devices. You also have to remember that outside of the US, RRS and many other products made in the US or Canada, cost and arm and a leg. It's not just the exchange rate but the tax and shipping costs can double the price of their products. I'm assuming that your viewers can come from outside the US. Just to add, I had a look at what I think is the equivalent RRS tripod , the Versa Tripod Series 4, to the Leofoto LN-404C and the differences are far greater than the similarities, when you look at the construction and features. The Leofoto is actually made to be compatible with Gitzo video tripods, rather than RRS.
I'm using a D850 with a 200-500 on a gimbal head with an Innorel RT90C, light and sturdy Carbon Fibre and under $500. I also use it with ball head for landscape, I have no complaints.
Nick, great review...shame it's not available in Wales. However, main reason for writing.......AL U MIN I (as eeee) UM. NOT ALUMINUM! Sheesh, you Americans 😂😂😂
This is the sequel to the FLM Berlin 38.4? I have the Berlin, and it's beefy as hell, but it definitely isn't as tall as this 38L mk II, which makes me think it's not directly comparable.
The Berlin had a very large-diameter apex, the new CP38-L4 II is much more streamlined. Both tripods use 38mm tubes and 4-section legs, but the CP38 is taller by ~13 inches. As Nick pointed out the feet have been revised, as was the carbon tube weaving. A big change is also in how the flat plate on top of the tripod is secured. The Berlin used a small set screw at the side of the rounder apex, while the new CP38 (and CP34, too) use three screws (soon to be stainless steel) to fix the platform in place. Really solid, as are the leg angle locks, which are revised and improved on the new tripod. I actually heard a lot of Nick's criticisms on the Berlin, they were valid, and we revised just about every one of his peeves with the previous tripod. The other upgrades are from the factory. Thanks for writing in, and glad you still enjoy the Berlin, too!
Is it too big to backpack with? As in, will it fit on the side of your shimoda bag? I want to switch to a lighter version tripod (carbon fiber) but cant afford more than $400, including a ball head, and also need it to be good for traveling and carrying with me for miles on the trails. Any suggestions?
FLM makes awesome stuff. They have some seriously well engineered heads with some unique features not seen on others. This looks like an amazing tripod but it’s inexcusable why they would cheap out and not use stainless for those bottom screws and the smaller, the worse because they can become an impossible thing to remove. I love the idea of the metal twist locks. That screams ultra premium. If not for that screw oxidation, it’s an amazing tripod and a great price. Also, as for size, it matters. I’m 6 feet but that’s not too much a concern. Out in Kauai with nick near a double water fall, my tripod was simply not tall enough to “see” over the edge of this one composition. Nick said “Here use mine...” and I snapped my camera in and boom - got the shot I wanted and could not get otherwise. Size does matter. Image here: instagram.com/p/Be1jQqNFUZk/?igshid=7qqutyos89ka Great review Nick!
Update: Just got a email and it turns out all future FLM tripods will be sent out with all stainless steal screws. How is that for a quick response!
nice!
That's great to hear, I was thinking for small change one would swap out those screws to SS, not sure why they didn't sue SS in the first place. Love when companies listen. Great review as always, would love an in depth review comparing all the companies including Promediagear to RRS, Gitzo, FLM, etc. I'm sure there's slight size difference and details.
Seems like they listened to you for your first review, and again for your second review!
Hmmm... Nick the influencer...
I just spoke to FLM here in Germany and told them about the screws and they will look into it and will ship stainless steel screws too
Thanks for a stellar review, Nick. The screws are an issue, and I must admit, not considering those who shoot in salty conditions was likely an oversight by the designers. But I'd like everyone to know that I'm already addressing the issue with the factory. We always deal with problems and corrections immediately, and we can re-design minor things such as this on-the-fly.
You can expect that every new CP34 (yes, there's a smaller version) or CP38 tripod we make from now on will have stainless steel screws at the apex. And anyone who has already bought one of these tripods will have a free retrofit, if they want it. I'll also find out why the leg angle locks caused a problem for you.
These three screws hold the 100mm platform in place, but when you use a half-ball, they're removed, along with the platform, in order to use the built-in 100mm bowl.
I'll be checking in here to see if anyone has other concerns or comments.
Thank you again, Nick, and thanks to all of you here for commenting and asking questions.
Ari - FLM USA & Canada
Customer Service appears to be top notch, and I am in the market for a new sturdy ball head ;-p
Seriously though, it's really good to hear you address these very minor issues, and I'll be sure to check out FLM ball heads, especially being a Canadian company :)
How have I not heard of you guys??🤷♂️
@@ItsWillLee Simple: we don't do any advertising :) Actually, we do rely heavily on word-of-mouth and honest reviews like Nick's. The three divisions of FLM (Euro, Asia, and N.A.) are small companies so we concentrate on quality more than quantity. Thanks, Mr Lee!
@@ItsWillLee For years since my first FLM tripod, better than RRS & Gitzo. On Dpreview I posted my did side by side testing with my FLM & RRS and the FLM reduced vibrations quicker than the RRS and cost 30% more! GET FLM.
@@FLMUSACanada still very happy with my Berlin 38.4!
@@dgevert Great to know, I still have mine as well.
Been working with FLM for several years now. I love their stuff! ;-) Nice to see they are getting some love from you.
Nick, I totally admire what you are doing these days. Free and honest reviews are the 1st thing I look for in product reviews. I for 1 congratulate you for washing your hands from financial gain when doing these videos mate. I love the tripod very much but again sadly, it is too expensive for me as a hobbyist. I just got myself the a9 with the 200-600 G and have just ordered the Yelangu swivel mount from H&B. It hurts my pocket but it is my passion and that is all I have to enjoy. Keep up the good work mate and I wish you all the best in the future. Love your stories you share which inspire me even more.
Hi Nick, I picked up one of the 34mm FLM tripods a couple of weeks back. My decision to go with FLM was motivated in no small part by this review. I really have enjoyed the tripod and value your reviews of products like this.
I just bought the 34mm Version of this tripod. Cannot wait. Thank you for the great review. It helped me decide to go with FLM.
I have never heard of FLM, but good to know...cool that they changed the foot accessories, as unscrewing the feet is good for drainage and drying out the tripod after use in water. I like that the twist locks are metal, my rubber coated twist locks have separated from the metal, ripped, and fallen off. At some point the shims in the tripod have to be replaced as they crack, and that is the true testament of customer service, if they provide replacement shims at a reasonable price
Perfect, I can camp under it with my bushcraft tarp when not taking photo's!
Holy crap, I think you've just changed the backpacking game
@@coffeeenthusiast8774 lol someone needs to show this to James Popsys: th-cam.com/video/jARH7v1a53E/w-d-xo.html
Haha, yeah, I already do that sometimes with my big Gitzo!!
@@GeoffCooper lol yes, just took a quick peak at your channel and noticed you glamping at Glen Coe under one 😜, I'll be sure to watch some more soon...
Great idea and never thought of that!
Excellent review Nick. I just made the purchase here in Scotland :) Very excited to receive it
Seriously great review. I spent $1300 on a RRS TVC-33S and a BH-55-LR head and it's the best tripod/head combo I've ever owned in 20 years of shooting. But for half the price the FLM looks very inviting. Good to know they fixed the rust problem.
Very good review. I too would be dissappointed in the corrosive prone hardware. On a related note; you reviewed the Feisol Elite tripod a couple of years ago (maybe longer) and your only complaint seemed to be about the lack of a standand size thread at the bottom to install spikes other than ones supplied by Feisol. I purchased that tripod, before I found your review, and found the Feisol spikes to be a total dissappointment. Not being easily defeated, I have arrived at a solution to that problem and can now attach any spike with 3/8" threads to my tripod. I will gladly share the procedure with anyone who has a Feisol Elite and would like to install spikes or claws to the bottom.
Hi Nick Due to you and this video I have just purchased the tripod. I live in the UK informed FLM about you and your video and your the reason I purchased. Thank you
let me know what you think of it once it comes!
@@NickPage will do thank you.I like your no bull shit videos truth and to the point, Problem we have in the UK is a lot of the products from America are very expensive RRS, promediagear, due to tax and postage on top of the price you pay, But the FLM 38L mkll affordable on my budget. Saving of 4 to £500 that's about $650.
@@NickPage had the tripod for a year its great love it well looked after got insulation pipe foam around the 3 legs top part only protection and keeps your hands from getting cold when carrying it around on winter days.
After watching this and many, many other gear videos, I went ahead and ordered this tripod with the 100mm half ball... for my Missouri ‘non-seascape’ shooting. Upgrading from my Manfrotto mt055cxpro4. Same weight with more stability and reach. Thanks for the recommendation!
Nick, thanks for the review. Glad to see FLM is still working it and competing...the more the merrier! I have the FLM CP-26 which I love for hiking. I use it most of the time since the RRS TVC-34L is, as you might say, a beast. I've had one problem with it: The plastic sleeves atop each leg segment are fragile and tend to break. When that happens, the legs freeze up. I've gradually figured out how to live with these failed items, but wonder if you have experienced similar problems and what FLM has done to overcome them. Thanks much. Gerry
Gerry, send me an email, I'll get you the replacement shims. The new shims will be out in 2020 (because the CP26-Travel is getting an update) and they'll be stronger. Thank you.
Ari - FLM
@@FLMUSACanada Will do, Ari. Didn't realize you guys were up on this net when I wrote to Nick.
Nice review Nick! I am using the excellent FLM ball head with a RSS clamp on a Gitzo Systematic 4 tripod. You didn’t mentioned the load capacity of the FLM tripod which is, like their ball heads, impressive too. Unfortunately their new series II were not available in Europe. To replace 3 screws is easy to do during a cleaning session.
Nice review as always, Nick! As I shoot a Fuji X-T3 system, I don't need anything this massive. FYI, I did test/review the awesome FLM CP-26 Travel Tripod, and found it to be the most robust, most precision-built tripod I've used in 40 years of commercial photography! Also wanted to give a shout out to Ari of FLM USA & Canada! Ari is a top-notch Professional who values superlative customer service! Thanks, Nick!
Thank you, Steve!
Great review Nick. Just curious why you didnt review a FLM ballhead?
Thanks for the very useful review; I've got one on backorder. In light of your problem with the three base screws, one of the first things I'll do when I get the tripod will be to identify the size of those screws and order marine grade SS replacements.
Hi Jeffrey, when you get your tripod (yes, they're on the way as we speak) let me know if the stainless steel replacements are good enough for your uses. We updated these back in November 2019. You can reach me through flmcanada.com Thank you
Mr. Page... Your review skills show a marked improvement. This is the first set of legs I've seen yet that come close to my PMG ( ProMediaGear ) legs. Once they get the SS machine screw issue worked out, they'll be fine. What would have made these 38 mm legs close to perfect would be to incorporate the spikes into the foot pads. Take a look at the PMG website on this. I don't use my spikes that often either, but it is real nice knowing they are always there if/when I need them. My (4) section CF legs are 42 mm at 58" in height & come with (11) 1/4" females in the head as well as the metal slider clamps. FLM has made a very fine tripod here & I wish them success moving forward.
Thanks,
Bill on the Hill,
Vermont, USA... :~)
Thank you, Bill! PMG make a fine tripod as well.
Looks to be a great tripod and one I’d consider if and when my Gitzo wears out. I don’t that happening anytime to soon but it’s nice to see more competition and it appears as though their customer service is on top of things. Nice review Nick and nice response from FLM!
Thanks for the review have been looking for additional reviews as this baby has been on my list! 👍🏽
Nice review Nick. Being able to hang one long leg over an edge and a general height increase are specifically what I am looking for with my next tripod. Does not appear to be a FLM reseller here in Australia. Now that you have dropped sponsors I am guessing you might be trying to figure how to prefect the public announcement. Keeping it short in audio might save the regulars from getting sick of hearing it ....... and send new viewers to a longer explanation in the comments? Anyway liked the review and the move away from sponsorship. Thanks.
Great video and follow up on the screw concern. Led me right into Ari in Ontario, great people to deal with, very responsive.
Looks awesome. Your review and the newer one comparing the different tripods inspired me to look at and get an FLM. My only thought was that this 38 was a bit big for air traveling (whenever that happens again), so I think the smaller 30 version is ever so slightly better. Even if I have to hunch over a little! Great review, super helpful.
To get around any hassle at the airport with giant tripods like this is I remove the two lower sections and place them on the other side of my pack nice and flat. This makes the whole package far shorter and gives my pack the perception of being more stream lined.
Really great review, Nick. Thanks so much!
Thanks Nick for being honest about this tripod. I too love seascapes and I would really like the tripod but I would change those screws out for stainless steel ones right from the getgo. It’s a lot of money for some of us and it turns the screws rusty with such a very short time span!! The leg spread on it is really nice. All the best. Graham🇬🇧🇬🇧📷📷
Hi Graham, if you read the older comments, you'll see that the screws were replaced with stainless steel back in early November 2019. Thank you.
FLM USA & Canada thanks very much, I have now gone through all the comments. It’s a great tripod and I would hate to see it where the screws rusted and you could not get them out. My very old one I used to smear Vaseline jelly on them which worked quite well then gave them a really good clean when I finished shooting!. Thanks again, Graham🇬🇧🇬🇧
This is such a good, honest and sensible review.
I Love It. A couple of years ago, on your recommendation, I bought the FLM 38L tripod. I now have the opportunity to travel the world. How do you travel with a large tripod?
Good looking tripod. I'll stick with my Ifootage Gazelle TC7. Other than the exchangeable feet it has all the features of the FLM yet it is lighter and less expensive. Living on Vancouver Island I shoot lots of seascapes and I've yet to spot a single rust spot. Thanks for this review, it makes me feel even better about my choice.
Nick, Thank's a lot for all your great content, it's very helpful! 👍 Although I live in Germany I never heard about FLM...I am using the BH 50 RRS ball head as well and I was one click away to order the RRS 34L. But in Germany you spent almost 1.600 EUR for the tripod and with your review I will stay local and buy the FML. Thanks again and please keep up your great content! 👍 Greetings, Enno 🙋♂️
Where did you buy it? I checked all links from the Germany's dealership section I they all have pretty bad online shops almost without FLM stuff.
_ eMike I will sent you the link tomorrow...😉
_ eMike shop.flm-gmbh.de/
_ eMike Enclosed the link for the german online store...😉 👍
Thanks Nick, good to see FLM listens. I used my large Gitso by sea and it took ages to clean out all screw threads etc. Gitso used to make a 'marine' tripod a few years back, at even more of a premium, but stopped selling it (probably on cost grounds). Would like to know which is now best pod for use in/around salt water - any views?
My trusty old travel tripod has been repaired three times in two years and has real problems dealing with the little bit of extra weight from the bigger lenses. This is a brand to consider as a replacement (especially with the promise of all steel screws). Thanks!
I have been looking for a new heavy duty tripod primarily for my 4x5 and Hasselblad 503. This looks very Interesting. At 6’1” I do get tired of leaning over to look through my cameras viewfinder/ground glass. This would fix that.
The FLM tripods Ball heads are German quality I have the FLM CP30-L3 Pro Tripod and CB-48FTR Ball Head with SRB 60 Arca-Type Clamp I have had it for over a year not my first tripod after 55 years behind a camera I have no problems with it I wish the CP 38L was available at the time I bought mine but no regrets great revue Nick thanks.
Looks like it's a great tripod needing some refinements, thanks for the review Nick
Looks like they’re already in the process of making those refinements
Thanks man
I appreciate recommendations on affordable products.
Looks nice, very similar to my Rollei Rock Solid Alpha but that top locking and ratchet set up looks way nicer to use then the traditional clips the Rollei has.
Hey Nick, I purchased the CP38 L4 II about 6 months ago, and thus far it has been fantastic (if a smidge heavy all things considered). My awesome family gifted me the new CP22 S4 II & CB32F for Christmas, and I think you would really enjoy checking that tripod out for a new travel tripod. Super light, modular, and full of useful features found on FLM's larger tripods.
I use the cp22 for my video camera, I agree the 38 is overkill for a lot of applications, if I am hiking I take my smaller RRS tripod, but if I dont have far to hike, the cp38 is king. I love how small and light the 22 is
Great rundown and some insightful responses. Rock on!
Thank you, Nick! Looks great! I'm assuming the lower price because it it made offshore. Another reviewer said China. I don't know if that is true, but it wouldn't surprise me, since it seems most things nowadays are manufactured there. RSS is very local for me -- just a short drive to Lehi. I prefer local in this case. But the reality is, I'm not a pro, and I really don't need a new tripod! But I'm always on the watch for something lighter and sturdier than what I have which probably would be most anything! 😉
Thank you for a honest straight review, I was just about to order a new Tripod. Question for FLM if I order a tripod now will it have the stainless steel screws or will I have to change them out later. I'm heading to Maui soon and will be doing Seascapes.Thanks
You'll get it with SS screws in the box, already taken care of. Thank you, Michael.
Ari - FLM
Just ordered today my FLM CP-34 M4 II with the "HALF-BALL HB-75" due to your review... and because of a strange english guy I as well ordered an Acratech Panoramic Head to go with it... but doubt you ever heard of him ;-)
I really am looking forward to get my grip on it... since now I "only" had a carbon travel tripod from Manfroto, which was a little flimsy and not really capable to handel wind or other forces.
Thx for the great review and makeing me spend a huge amount of money ;-)
Thank you for the mini review, one more important subject for seascapes, is the ability of the locking mechanism to prevent salt and sand from entering and staying in the jaws, how good is that?
Cause my Sirui XL absolutely sucks (literally)
Hi Nick tripod arrived today got the one that is 68 inch rather then the 74 inch your using also got the FLM ball head CB-48 FTR they complement each other looking forward to getting out. John
Let me know what you think of it
Hi John, they are all 68 inches tall, the difference is the leg tube diameter. The "L4" in the name refers to Long leg section, and 4 section legs. These L4 tripods are all 68 inches tall.
@@FLMUSACanada 68 inch that's 5 feet 8 inches tall the one in the video is taller then Nick who says I am 5'9" What I am thinking is Nick could be shorter than 5'9" making the tripod look taller than it is in the video. I know FLM do a CP38 L5 190cm which is 74 inches. How tall is the tripod in this Video
@@FLMUSACanada FLM HB75 Levelling half ball is this the levelling head that will fit the FLM 38L mkII tripod.
@@john100073 Yes, it will fit, but you'll need to use the 75-100 Adapter with the CP38 tripod, which has an integrated 100mm bowl.
Just wanted to let you all know that the factory will use stainless steel screws in the apex of the CP34-L4 II and CP38-L4 II tripods from now on. The CP30 tripods already use SS screws, go figure.
For those who buy a tripod now, I've already sourced the correct size SS screws at the local fastener shop, and I'll include 3 replacement screws with every new tripod.
FYI, they're metric M5 x 25, and they sell for $0.29/ea.
Thanks to Nick for finding this flaw, and I'm glad the correction could be made so easily and quickly.
Awesome!! Thanks Ari.
Great customer service and follow-up. Great to see a company that listens to the people using the gear and actually responds quickly. Well done FLM!
Larry Maniccia Thank you, Larry.
dean minett Thank you, Dean.
@FLM USA & Canada do you make one in a smaller normal size tripod?
Awesome video! Tripods confuse me and the prices of them hurt, do you think the FLM CP30-L4 II 10X Carbon fiber would be fine with a DSLR and a 400MM 2.8? I think i could manage that one financially
I think it would be ok but the Ball head would be important for a lens that big... but, if you have a lens that cost that much, why are you stressed about the cost difference between tripods?
I'm using a cheap Zomei Tripod (~120€) for 5 years now and it still works like it did on the first day. I just had to retighten some screws. I travelled alot with it also went through seawater. All I had to do was to remove some salt. No corrosion no gummyness whatsoever. It's sturdy enough longtime exposures in windy conditions never bothered it.
So spending 1k on a tripod (even though it probably is worth it) seems a bit odd to me.
Hey Nick, how about a video on how to clean a tripod after its been in salty water? What things do you look for? What materials do you use?
Great video thank you Nick. I'm interested in a light weight tripod for large format, the flm is tempting me. 2.2 kg nice
Thanks, Nick. I've been interested in this particular tripod for a while and now I'm convinced that I'll get one. Since this was produced own 2019 has FLM changed those problematic screws to stainless?
Yeah, as soon as this review came out they swapped them out for stainless. I bought and own this tripod and it has served me well
I'm shooting a lot of seascapes. Switched from a very mediocre Vanguard to the waterpoof Sirui W2204 - it actually does work as expected and only requires rinsing in a warm water with soap (I'm not affiliated with Sirui in any way). It's also much cheaper than the FLM. But FLM looks like a more solid option as far as I can see, less fragile.
The Feisol competitor to this type of tripod seems to be getting great feedback too, from my friends who have owned it for years, and others I've met who have abused them for years. Also, yeah, I hate lock rubber. All metal leg lock grips FTW! Thats why I love Oben ballheads for budget shoppers.
I agree, sir! The [pro]master XC525 is a decent small tripod for a mirrorless kit, were it not for the rubber lock inserts!
As a professional boat capt/marine photographer I have to deal with salt water induced corrosion on a daily basis so I feel your pain. Happily there's an easy solution. Go to any marine supply store and ask them for some anti corrosion spray. I use stiff sold by Mercury Outboard company but CRC and others make similar sprays. It forms a waxy coating that protects the metal very effectively. Not a very attractive look but the fastenings you are protecting ate only visible to gophers and woodchucks so that shouldn't be a problem.
I ended up replacing these three screws with stainless steel and the problem is solved but that is a great tip on the corrosion spray. I didn’t know that existed!
Looks like the washers on the leg screws are rusting as well so they have to switch those out with stainless. Cheers Nick.
An update for everybody: the factory is looking into the grips, and I'll let you know what they find. Nick has updated me to say it was likely just salt build-up, but we'll find out what's going on for sure, let you know of any potential problems.
Meantime, I've posted this on our website: www.flmcanada.com/salt.html
Thank you
Ari - FLM
Hi your website lists this as 173cm max height however looking at it next to Nick its got to be taller? 5ft 9 is 175cm and its way past its head. Please can you let me know. Also do you have any plans to bring this model to UK? thanks
@@samnorland6105 Hi Sam, Maybe Nick was shooting with a wide angle, and the difference between him and the tripod was a visual exaggeration, but the tripod does stand at 68 inches.
The UK has the CP30-L5 II (at SpeedGraphic UK); almost the same tripod, but with 5 leg sections. I'm unsure of plans to bring it to the UK; that's up to FLM Germany as Europe is their territory.
What I can do is sell you one from here; shipping will be a factor, but it should still come out to less than the cost of the CP38-L5.
You can contact me directly through FLM Canada dot com.
Thank you
Well presented review. How much sand gets / got into the leg knobs? If they are aluminum or brass, the sand will eat them up quickly.
I am leaning towards getting one although I am considering getting the FLM CP30-L4 II which is only 3.1 pounds. Their response in changing the bolts here shows what kind of company that they are
I think the 30 is a good size for anyone that hikes much and doesn't want a huge tripod.. the cp38 is kinda overkill most of the time
@@NickPage Thanks Nick that was my thought too. I am doing much more hiking this year and plan to do much more next year. So this will work out well for me.
That super wide base also will allow you to keep people out of your personal bubble lol
Looks like a winner, especially at that price point! I was going to comment that for $6 you could go on Amazon and buy SS replacement screws, but FLM made that a non issue. I have the ProMedia big daddy t-pod and paid way more for it than the FLM :-(
The locking mechanism is very similar to the one on my Bogen by Manfrotto 190 tripod. I purchased it in 1995. Back in those days I shot film with a Minolta Maxxum 650si date. This tripod is heavy, strong, sturdy and feels like a sledge hammer. I still use it. Works great with my Sony A7RII.
Thanks for these reviews.
@Nick Page thank you very much for this video. I just received my CP 34 (the slightly smaller/lighter weight version). I couldn't justify the money for a RSS/Gitzo, but as it turns out I didn't need to. This beats both for its height/weight ratio, and at a price that attainable.
yeah I think the 34 is a great size.. kinda wish I would have got it instead.. I agree its a great tripod for both price and quality
Great review, I’ve been looking for a good replacement tripod for my Manfrotto without the center extension mast. Think I just found it. Thanks!
Thanks. I have been looking for a carbon fiber companion to my 100mm Induro aluminum video tripod, which I use for photography.
Based on your update about the stainless screws, do you now recommend it for all purposes? If so, would you say it is a better buy than RRS since it is $500 cheaper? Thanks.
Nick, are you planning to have the Promediagear 34L tripod reviewed anytime soon? I am saving money to get a high-end tripod and debating between Promediagear, RRS and FLM
Great Review Nick however I don't see myself switching from Manfrotto which for some reason you completely excluded mentioning. For many landscape photographers Manfrotto tripods are one of the go to brands when looking for a well made tripod.
I’ve honestly never thought much of manFrodo tripod’s, I’ve never been a fan of flip locks for one, and for the longest time man Frodo insisted on having a proprietary plate rather than adopting a standard Arkansas is compatible plate. I’ve never seen one I liked
Hey Nick since your setup is now so much lighter, any reason why you are looking at the 38L as opposed to the 34L or even the 30L. I know the tubes are slightly slimmer but I can't imagine going through the PNW hikes lugging ~6 lbs of tripod (5lb legs + 1lb head) on your back in addition to all the other gear. Any thoughts?
Scared me off with the sea salt issues. Seems expensive too. I’m still looking for THAT ONE tripod.
Now that they have clarified that all the screws will be stainless steel, I think I would be a buyer. The price is the added bonus!
FLM makes some really right stuff!
Nick have you used a Pro Media Gear before? 4 series is INSANE big. 3 series great size and yea the twist locks are metal😁
Hey Nick thank you for the great review as always! I must ask what I am missing about the maximum height of the reviewed tripod. I looked at the specs and it says 68” but in the video it appears to be much taller. Please let me know what I am missing...lol...thank you in advance
Which FLM ball head would you recommend for Landscape photography?
Buy nice or buy twice applied to this video.
Nice review!
Hey everybody, we have sold out our current run of tripods, thank you to all who contacted us, and a big thanks to Nick!
If you want to buy a Series II tripod, you can visit B&H or Adorama on or after November 22. That's when they'll start Black Friday pricing.
The sale prices will run until January 6.
As always, email me if you have any questions; thanks!
Ari - FLM
On it, ordered mine yesterday!
@@michaeltrue Thank you, Michael; I got your order yesterday and will be able to ship it by Dec 7-8. If you have any questions, you can contact me through FLM Canada dot com.
Whoops! I just sent you an email about purchasing from your website. I just placed the order through B&H. Can't wait to get it!! Thanks @NickPage for the video!
@@blivieriphoto Hi Barbara, you can always contact us for purchase or with any questions, but yes, the sales have moved primarily to the stores. Thanks for writing, happy holidays!
@@FLMUSACanada Thanks! Happy New Year to you!
Howdy Nick! Did you ever find anything you didn’t like about this tripod? I’m in the market and I’ve been eyeing a few FLM tripods. Thanks!
Woulda been good to know the price and where you can buy it.
if you watch till the end, or look at the video description you will find both...
that's funny, I just ordered the FLM 38 II yesterday and will arrive today!!
Have you received it yet? I have a 30 and 38 coming tomorrow.
@@deanminett5793 yes, and that's the best tripod I bought so far. its rock solid... flm germany also told me, that the accessories th half ball and the center column will be out soon.
Can’t you get stainless screws to replace the rust-prone screws? Seems that would help with seascapes.
Yeah absolutely you could. Seems to be the only flaw I can find
Very nice review Nick. I especially appreciate it because I saw your RRS reviews a few years ago (can’t remember when exactly) and watched you use them in your videos. Your RRS tripod ticked all the boxes for me... tall, serious quality/durability, can go low, leveling base, and a bunch of other cool details. I’ve wanted to get the RRS tripod you have but could never afford it given other photography purchase needs (e.g. lenses).
This may be the reason I finally replace my “just getting by until I can afford a right proper tripod” tripod. Thank you!!!
Hello, I have seen your videos about photography tripods, including the FLM brand.
I currently have the ProMediaGear TR344L and I am looking for a more rigid tripod like the TR424L or the FLM Atlas 42-L4 Carbon Fiber Tripod, the latter seems very attractive to me for its price of $900
Having used FLM brand tripods (CP 38L), what is your opinion comparing both brands? in terms of quality of materials, stability and vibrations.
If I bought the FLM tripod, would I use it with the R3 and the 600 f4 or is the PMG TR424L worth the extra price?
Thank you
I think that between the two my recommendation would be the pro media gear…, they hold up a bit better long term to salt corrosion
Looks interesting, especially at that price point. I use a RRS 34L and BH-55 head for my 6x17 camera and Mamiya RZ67 and haven't been let down, but the $500 difference in price does catch one's eye. Looking at both, it would appear the apex on the FLM is an aluminum casting? I believe RRS only uses forged aluminum in all their fittings, which is a big advantage. Do you know if this is true about the FLM model? Thanks for the excellent review...great info and right to the point (unlike those paid-off fanboys pushing the Peak Design travel pod).
No, the FLM aluminum apex is not cast, it's CNC-milled from one chunk of metal. The Series II webpage says as much: www.flmcanada.com/new-series-ii-tripods.html
Good question, thanks for asking!
HI Nick- I really enjoy your great videos, thanks. I followed your link in the description, and it listed this model as the cp-38 l4 2, with a max height of 68.3 " which is just over 5'-6". Now, at 4:24, you are standing next to this thing, appearing to be around 4'-6" tall if those numbers are correct. I'm puzzled and amused, cause you appear to be taller in your videos.
You can use that FLM tripod as a frame for you tarp tent haha, that would be a cool idea.
FLM sounds like a cool company. I'll have to check them out. Have you ever looked at ProMediaGear? Just curious about your thoughts.
No one's ever called us cool before...thanks! :)
You or your viewers should have a look at the Leofoto brand. I have the LN-404C tripod and it's one of the best I've ever owned. It's carbon fibre with beautifully anodized alloy components, goes up to 1.9m tall and can hold 50kg. Priced around the same as the FLM.
I am familiar with Leofoto, and man I cant get on board with them simply because they are one of those "copycat" brands. Everything they make is just a ripoff of other company's designs, mostly Really right stuff. They dont even bother to change the numbering in the names. They are crazy cheap, but I fear in those cases, your getting what you pay for.
@@NickPage I think most product features are copied by one manufacturer or another to some extent nowadays, that's just the way of the world. I don't think RRS (I own at least one of their products) are completely immune from doing this, even if it involves refining the details.
That said, the Leofoto I have is without any doubt a very well build tripod and I have no fear that it's going to fall apart any time soon. While the Chinese get a lot of flak (sometimes deservedly) in many cases they have upped their game and produce some of the world's best products. Think drones, gimbals etc, and these are complex devices.
You also have to remember that outside of the US, RRS and many other products made in the US or Canada, cost and arm and a leg. It's not just the exchange rate but the tax and shipping costs can double the price of their products. I'm assuming that your viewers can come from outside the US.
Just to add, I had a look at what I think is the equivalent RRS tripod , the Versa Tripod Series 4, to the Leofoto LN-404C and the differences are far greater than the similarities, when you look at the construction and features. The Leofoto is actually made to be compatible with Gitzo video tripods, rather than RRS.
Can you recommend a tripod with SS components priced under $500 sturdy enough for the D850 and a 500mm lens?
Take a look at Colorado tripod company! They have excellent and affordable tripods
I'm using a D850 with a 200-500 on a gimbal head with an Innorel RT90C, light and sturdy Carbon Fibre and under $500. I also use it with ball head for landscape, I have no complaints.
Put a big metal ball on the top and it would look like sputnik... oh boy did I just give away my age or what?!😂
Nick, great review...shame it's not available in Wales.
However, main reason for writing.......AL U MIN I (as eeee) UM. NOT ALUMINUM! Sheesh, you Americans 😂😂😂
Take a look at Leofoto tripods as well. Quite decent for the money.
I have seen them, they are a really right stuff copy cat. Really don’t like their ethics
Great review - clearly respected by FLM too.
This is the sequel to the FLM Berlin 38.4? I have the Berlin, and it's beefy as hell, but it definitely isn't as tall as this 38L mk II, which makes me think it's not directly comparable.
This is the long version of the mark two... they make a shorter version which is similar to the Berlin
The Berlin had a very large-diameter apex, the new CP38-L4 II is much more streamlined. Both tripods use 38mm tubes and 4-section legs, but the CP38 is taller by ~13 inches. As Nick pointed out the feet have been revised, as was the carbon tube weaving. A big change is also in how the flat plate on top of the tripod is secured. The Berlin used a small set screw at the side of the rounder apex, while the new CP38 (and CP34, too) use three screws (soon to be stainless steel) to fix the platform in place. Really solid, as are the leg angle locks, which are revised and improved on the new tripod. I actually heard a lot of Nick's criticisms on the Berlin, they were valid, and we revised just about every one of his peeves with the previous tripod. The other upgrades are from the factory. Thanks for writing in, and glad you still enjoy the Berlin, too!
Great review, nice tripod
Is it too big to backpack with? As in, will it fit on the side of your shimoda bag? I want to switch to a lighter version tripod (carbon fiber) but cant afford more than $400, including a ball head, and also need it to be good for traveling and carrying with me for miles on the trails. Any suggestions?
Have a look at the FLM CP30-S4 II: www.flmcanada.com/new-series-ii-tripods.html Contact me if you have any questions. Thank you
Ari - FLM
FLM makes awesome stuff. They have some seriously well engineered heads with some unique features not seen on others.
This looks like an amazing tripod but it’s inexcusable why they would cheap out and not use stainless for those bottom screws and the smaller, the worse because they can become an impossible thing to remove.
I love the idea of the metal twist locks. That screams ultra premium.
If not for that screw oxidation, it’s an amazing tripod and a great price.
Also, as for size, it matters. I’m 6 feet but that’s not too much a concern. Out in Kauai with nick near a double water fall, my tripod was simply not tall enough to “see” over the edge of this one composition. Nick said “Here use mine...” and I snapped my camera in and boom - got the shot I wanted and could not get otherwise. Size does matter.
Image here: instagram.com/p/Be1jQqNFUZk/?igshid=7qqutyos89ka
Great review Nick!
Nice tripod if I didn't have a big Gitzo I might get one to go with my 58MM FLM ball head.
Nice sticks. Might trade one of my Gitzo’s. Carbon fibre kills vibration, as well as being lighter.
I'll purchase one as soon as funds are available.
If you are getting that much salt on your tripod, what effect are you having with salt/sand on camera body, lens?
Shouldn't have to replace screws, but is it difficult?
they have actually watched the video and already fixed the problem with the screws