RetroTech: Sony's bizarre Ruvi camcorder

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  • @Musical_Museum
    @Musical_Museum ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Not sure how we have not commented on this before now! Thank you so much to Matt for downloading and donating the footage shown at 6:10 (there was more) which is a rare glimpse of our original Museum in St. George's Church, Brentford before we moved to our new purpose-built location over 15 years ago. We really appreciated the time you took to do this for our tiny charity, as we have no video records from this time. The footage is now on our channel (MusicalMuseumLive), and safely backed up in our archive on several different digital media. Thanks also to Sam (from YT channel ThisMuseumIsNotObsolete) who introduced us to Matt!

    • @KahlessTheUnforgettable
      @KahlessTheUnforgettable ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s amazing to ponder what various people have tucked away on videotapes collecting dust in their attics! Interesting story!

  • @zeos386sx
    @zeos386sx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +616

    that cartridge is quite possibly the most sony thing ever.

    • @richardemms3050
      @richardemms3050 7 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Indeed, elaborate and impractical. But solves a minor issue. Does anyone remember the Sony Mavica digital camera? Storing photos on a floppy disk was brilliant when nobody was using USB sockets.

    • @BigMack2020
      @BigMack2020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That is very sony of sony

    • @IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT
      @IDoNotLikeHandlesOnYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@richardemms3050 Don't forget proprietary

    • @stevenlenkowsky6879
      @stevenlenkowsky6879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      zeos386sx My two still work, so there’s that!

    • @straightpipediesel
      @straightpipediesel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Just like Minidisc, It wasn't Sony's idea. They just copied and shrunk the airborne recorders used by the military. Those systems were almost the same. By eliminating the removable tape, it was smaller, more rugged, and could be environmentally sealed.

  • @The8BitGuy
    @The8BitGuy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    I've never heard of this before. However, I must say I would have probably liked it back in 2000. Even as far back as that, I was using a Hi-8 camcorder and as soon as I would record some footage, I would use a video capture card and pull it into my computer. That's how I kept all of my home movies back then. And then, I would simply re-use the same cassette over and over again until it wore out. And since I would have captured it straight to my PC, it wouldn't have had as much degradation as going to VHS. Honestly, I think the video quality looks pretty good compared to the Hi-8 camera I was using at the time. So I guess I would give this device a thumbs up. But I know my usage case would have not been the norm in 2000.

    • @hideouslyhilarious
      @hideouslyhilarious 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The 8-Bit Guy u

    • @KarlBaron
      @KarlBaron 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @ropersonline Even if they were to make a HDD for it, I bet it would still be analog rather than digital. There were analog disc formats before - look up "Video Floppy" or "Mavipak".

    • @marrieddyke
      @marrieddyke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's still how I do things. 1080p video the way my phone records it is a bit much for my wee SD card, so I get out my Canon ZR-200, set it to 16:9 and LP mode and have fun whenever I need to record something longer than ten minutes. I've only got three tapes though, so I'll do an SP-speed dub to a videotape for safety, and then dub the footage to a PC and reuse the MiniDV tape.

    • @lunarmodule6419
      @lunarmodule6419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're always to ahead of the parade. Come IN the parade, its fun! 😃 Low tech and all LOL.

    • @TheDzhoel
      @TheDzhoel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yo 8bit bro, If you stick a paperclip in the tape mechanism you can improve the quality and fix any faults that they have

  • @billymonkey111
    @billymonkey111 8 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    "Those aren't pentalope screws...WE DON'T CARE!". I work with someone exactly like that.

  • @nscantling
    @nscantling 8 ปีที่แล้ว +790

    I'm not sure the grey and bleak video is the camera's fault. I thought that was just London? ;)

    • @patd4u2
      @patd4u2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      That is what I thought to. lol

    • @markpenrice6253
      @markpenrice6253 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I've got some early digital camera photos from a trip down there to go to the millennium dome (quite possibly what the Ruvi tape was meant for?) and, well, it looks very similar :D
      Though that IS down to the the CCDs of the time being uniformly hopeless. £700, that thing cost the school my mum taught at, all 1.3 megapixels of it, but you'd throw away a webcam or phone that produced images of that quality nowadays. Just, like, straight in the bin. It was a poor contender even against my 110-format film camera, the only benefit really being the ability to delete and re-shoot, as well as to insert pictures into Word documents without having to develop and scan them (which is what I borrowed it for, and what I bought my own first digital camera for about 3 years later ... £200, 2mpx, and general image quality that stomped all over the earlier model... probably saved me £300 in 35mm film and processing alone, plus the time that would have been spent waiting for the development and then putting them in a scanner)
      As in washed out but muddy at the same time, poorly focussed at the edges no matter what you did (because the electronics cost so much they ended up skimping on the optics... oh dear), and really, really, REALLY bad colour reproduction. All that and tiny memory cards plus deathly slow serial interfacing.
      No wonder we were skeptical of the idea at first...

    • @justinholmes5614
      @justinholmes5614 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      True story
      I hate going to London

    • @SketchTurnerZero
      @SketchTurnerZero 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Everything Log2 in London :D

    • @filminginportland1654
      @filminginportland1654 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He said *in the video* that it's not just the "October weather". Pay attention!

  • @irfanchaudhri
    @irfanchaudhri 8 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    You are like the Wikipedia of old items and videos. Its amazing to see old tech and how it compares with today. Keep it up - enjoying every single video you throw at us.

    • @Pandan3D
      @Pandan3D 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you with the hand up in the back, we dont want to hear your boring facts!

    • @Troublingarcher7
      @Troublingarcher7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love when he does a video on something and then all of a sudden a Wikipedia page pops up for it

  • @Milnoc
    @Milnoc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    It's as if they tried to reproduce a hard drive, but with Hi-8 tape. I'm surprised it went beyond the R&D stage.

  • @James2t3
    @James2t3 8 ปีที่แล้ว +560

    Sony has always loved their proprietary storage solutions.

    • @whitestriderable
      @whitestriderable 8 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      James2t3 yes, and many people still hate Sony for this reason!

    • @claudiobizama5603
      @claudiobizama5603 8 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      I'm looking at you PSvita

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think you mean PSP, which was very easy to get around the piracy protection.

    • @claudiobizama5603
      @claudiobizama5603 8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      At least you can buy adaptors for the Memory Stick, like one that gives you 2 microSD slots. But the Vita is a bigger offender because is expensive and smaller than a microSD

    • @RevRaptor898
      @RevRaptor898 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Damn straight bloody stupid vita. I have one, still haven't gotten around to buying a memory card for it. I'm gona end up spending more on the card than I did buying the vita :(

  • @RajithaSeneviratne
    @RajithaSeneviratne 8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    that cartridge is so awesome. they've somehow built an entire video head mechanism into such a small area. what a brilliant piece of engineering

  • @Nostalgianerd
    @Nostalgianerd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I did not expect tape to be in the cartridge! Fascinating stuff.

    • @Bug110
      @Bug110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow I am the first one to like and comment.This comment was made 3 years ago!

    • @coolguy-xd1bg
      @coolguy-xd1bg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Bug110 You're a real archeologist ^_^

    • @johannesschneider8928
      @johannesschneider8928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They basically put a whole VCR in the cartridge. Yeah, have to agree with the others: That's probably the most Sony piece of engineering ever.

  • @justletmelistthese
    @justletmelistthese 8 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    "washed out colours in London, in October"
    No way!

  • @ahelpinghand8340
    @ahelpinghand8340 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've still got my sony ruvi ,when I purchased it back in the 90's ,I thought it was amazing and much more pocket friendly than all other camcorders, never went out of focus unlike all the other cameras I had, picture quality was very good on my unit in good light , the Sony cartridges cost £75 each and yes I did buy one , I never thought I would see another one let alone a review. thanks tech moan.

  • @MaxKoschuh
    @MaxKoschuh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +392

    That cartridge is awesome and stupid at the same time.

    • @Spacekriek
      @Spacekriek 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I just watched the video (mostly scrubbing really) but it does strike me as about the best thing Sony could do in the pre-flash era.

    • @Radi0he4d1
      @Radi0he4d1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      A perfect example of overengineering.

    • @Oldbmwr100rs
      @Oldbmwr100rs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The best part is, that if they had just made it all into the unit and used a new format of tape it could have been smaller. The extra case and parts to make the cartridge was a waste of space.

    • @danijel-ch2gk
      @danijel-ch2gk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreee, just switching to miniDV tape would likely make the camera a bit smaller. Also, that amount of tape would likely last at least 45, if not 60 minutes.

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well yes, but without experimentation there's no future progress... and we can see the current solid state flash drives packaged in a similar cartridge like form factor (sans the crazy tape system ; )

  • @Damien.D
    @Damien.D 8 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The one and only "awkward audio and video formats channel" now presents : the tape cartridge with a head inside. Brilliant.

    • @georgeplagianos6487
      @georgeplagianos6487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@electrictroy2010 yes I bought my first mini camcorder back in 1988 it was a Magnavox VHS -c model. Back then it was $400 at "nobody beats the The wiz"electronic store in New York City. BTW: brought one of these RUVIs for $135 around 2000 at PC Richards store. Cuz all those other small camcorders were like he said hundreds of dollars more. I got it right before 911 and recorded all these ash covered people walking looking pretty exhausted and stressed along the waterfront highway coming from from downtown where the disaster happened

  • @mikekz4489
    @mikekz4489 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    That is some bullshit there with that cartridge. I was expecting some oddball early digital memory storage.

  • @TuneStunnaMusic
    @TuneStunnaMusic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That was awesome! Tiny little play head and reels inside a lil case. I love these obscure technologies

  • @mrpositronia
    @mrpositronia 8 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    Does Ruvi stand for Really useless video idea? Thank you! I'll get my coat.

    • @jennoscura2381
      @jennoscura2381 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was going to be Ruby because they thought they had a real gem on their hands. But then they realized it sucked and had to rebrand it. LOL.

    • @mrpositronia
      @mrpositronia 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ^ nice with gravy, peas and mashed potatoes! ;^P

    • @rexsexson5349
      @rexsexson5349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blackout!
      (See: King of the Hill)

    • @tonivoul1971
      @tonivoul1971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      One day a guy who worked for garmin found out about that camera and when he heard her name ruvi he had the idea to make gps nuvi machines

    • @mrpositronia
      @mrpositronia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @John Huffington good to film on? 😏

  • @curiousottman
    @curiousottman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely fascinating. I was shouting "what's in the video cartridge?!!" out loud until you opened it! Great review.

  • @Chuywaka
    @Chuywaka 8 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Oh Sony. How many b̶e̶e̶r̶s̶ sake bottles your engineers have made each other hold.

    • @MultiCheeseLouise
      @MultiCheeseLouise 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the japanese make and drink quite a lot of different beers... sake is not the japanese equivalent of beer....

    • @lunarmodule6419
      @lunarmodule6419 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      For Pete's SAKÉ!

    • @lunarmodule6419
      @lunarmodule6419 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MultiCheeseLouise Biru!

  • @JimFortune
    @JimFortune 8 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    If you'd stuck with the earlier camera you wouldn't have to worry about wrinkled shirts!

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I don't worry about them...that's the job of the internet.

    • @JimFortune
      @JimFortune 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Techmoan I wasn't complaining about your wrinkled shirt. God knows I'm the last man to harp on that! Just trying to point out that even when it seems to be progress it ain't necessarily so. ;->

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      No i understand, it's like the problemsTV presenters had with the introduction of HD where their old caked on orange makeup was no longer suitable and then again more recently with 4K where set designers have to make a bit more effort, as every scene can be paused and examined in detail - an old Gillette razor will no longer cut it as a communicator vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/f9/QuiGon_hush98.jpg

    • @JimFortune
      @JimFortune 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Techmoan Witness the movie stars whose careers ended with the talkies, due to their horrible speaking voices. ;->

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yes, some things were never meant to be seen in HD, let alone 4k.
      Take star trek TNG. They did video compositing on tape for that originally, so it couldn't be shown in HD.
      But since most of the source footage (including many effects shots) was on film, they were able to make a 1080p bluray release by redoing all the editing and compositing.
      All well and good, and it actually looks quite impressive.
      Plus, many things are surprisingly detailed.
      However, many things are not. And sometimes it's really obvious how fake various props or scenery elements actually are.
      Amongst other things, it also tends to be super-obvious when they switch from a 'hero' prop to a cheaper stunt or background version.
      (witness Geordi's visor going from one made of metal with some kind of gemstone/crystal on the sides, to one made of plastic with hologram stickers and back again. Or the obviously fake hand phasers, and so on.)
      Some things were not meant for HD, and some of course, took a while to figure out in the transition era.

  • @DanScram946
    @DanScram946 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really admire the level of research in your videos, nice to see the history as well as the tech!

  • @suppengroove
    @suppengroove 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    reasons why i like this channel: videos like this
    video and audio formats/recording devices that i never heard before. i feel so enlightened every time :D

  • @wtfindestries09
    @wtfindestries09 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hey, during the footage it shows Gloucester quays before the gentrification. The red brick warehouses in the background and the boats are all familiar, and all the stills are around Gloucester and Cheltenham too.

    • @stevebrown1974
      @stevebrown1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I recognised the Docks too!

  • @MegaFPVFlyer
    @MegaFPVFlyer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 6:17 you can see a rather peculiar looking wooden cabinet with some upside down violins inside it.
    For anyone wondering, that is actually an extremely old self playing violin (one instrument for each string, thus why it contains 4). You can find an in depth video on the "Wintergatan" TH-cam channel - interesting stuff.
    I like to think that the machine in the home video is the one in Wintergatan's video before it was restored.

  • @tdcattech
    @tdcattech 8 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    This idea is a fine example of where innovation crosses into blind stupidity.

    • @_JoeMomma
      @_JoeMomma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gotta make sure the consumer cant use aftermarket storage so sony can make more money!

    • @onthemoverealestatephotogr9655
      @onthemoverealestatephotogr9655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Classic Sony...

  • @j0emang0
    @j0emang0 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the channel! Your expositions on old odd Consumer Electronics raise nostalgic memories of my grandfather, who loved to tinker with video and audio stuff all through my childhood. We grabbed a Philco v1100 VHS VCR/Tank the week they came out which I think still works, and I am sitting here in front of a sony MDP 700 Laserdisc multi format player which he owned. I've got an older Sansui Receiver in the bedroom and a closet full of live Minidisc recordings. I feel ya.
    This Ruvi thing is just the kind of Sony headscratcher that made me fall in love with them so early on. Every once in a while they hit a home run and sometimes they release a still-born product like this. Anyway, kudos from across the pond.

  • @ChoobChoob
    @ChoobChoob 8 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Can you do a review of that Sony digital camera that used Floppy Disks?

    • @rzeka
      @rzeka 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Oh shit, I have that. It records video at like 10 fps with no sound.

    • @LGR
      @LGR 8 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      The Sony Mavica! I have one I plan to review myself :)

    • @shoraz
      @shoraz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lazy Game Reviews did you find it from one of your thrifting adventures?

    • @cebruthius
      @cebruthius 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I still have mine. 640x480 jpegs yay. I still remember the beeper going tee-dee ... breeep with every shot.

    • @daliberal
      @daliberal 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      small TH-cam world, watch your videos too.

  • @Immashift
    @Immashift 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember my dad and my uncle back in the day both warred over camera gear, and both ended up getting this $1200 Sony Hi-8 model. The most interesting thing about those cameras was they had infrared video transmission via a receiver connected to the TV.
    I remember my dad building a special little shelf for the camcorder to sit on above the couch so he didn't have to have it on his lap while playing home videos. Then I bought a Mini DV model from Panasonic off eBay a few years later which blew those two cameras out of the water, and both my uncle and my dad weren't very happy with their cameras any more.
    Shortly thereafter though solid state cameras became a thing and we all got 3 megapixel point and shoots that also did VGA video and we thought that was awesome.

  • @rennaaa6667
    @rennaaa6667 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I actually wanted to see the '93 HD NY video and lo behold it's in your FAQ. Nice :D

    • @dasdasdus
      @dasdasdus 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amazing aren't they.

  • @thedeepsfix
    @thedeepsfix 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dear Techmoan. Pls dont worry about your shirt or your fingers or any of that stuff. we watch you because you are awesome, clever and well spoken. we are all people too, with lives and broken bits about us. thank you for all the time you spend making videos.

  • @bobfl42
    @bobfl42 8 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Wheres the Muppets? I wanted to know what they have to say about it.

    • @theoldaccidontuseanymore696
      @theoldaccidontuseanymore696 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      RTFD

    • @randomsanwhich2
      @randomsanwhich2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Robert Fletcher the muppets were on 8 bit guy channel !!

    • @power-max
      @power-max 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Q) Why are there no muppets in this video?
      A) They don't appear in every video - they just come out when something 'amusing' comes to mind for them to express. Today - I have nothing. Writer's block.
      --techmoan description

    • @Kalidor99
      @Kalidor99 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Power Max, That's a lie, they are on vacation in the US, hanging around with the 8-bit guy.

    • @power-max
      @power-max 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was in the description.

  • @skakdosmer
    @skakdosmer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice to see all about the equipment I couldn't afford, and learn that I hardly missed anything.

  • @btracing
    @btracing 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, always getting the odd ones! Don't stop doing that, it's fantastic.

  • @ProfQuatermass1
    @ProfQuatermass1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating video. I almost bought a Ruvi to film my wedding when Dixon discounted them to £49.99 in 2000 but I'm glad I bought a JVC DV camcorder instead. That said, the cartridge is essentially just a miniaturized VCR - a totally bonkers premise even back at the end of the 1990s. Thanks again for all your retrotech vids - they never fail to entertain.

  • @LukeInnes
    @LukeInnes 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "Threw out the baby with the bath water"
    Now there's a phrase people should use more often

    • @Xanthopteryx
      @Xanthopteryx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just use a Babycutor (BigClive)

  • @antiqueperfection
    @antiqueperfection 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:13 A 1947 Seeburg trashcan Jukebox! I used to have one of those, wish I never would have sold it. Loved the thing, super cool and unique. Nice little find on that 20 year old home video :-)

  • @jimbo1531
    @jimbo1531 8 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I do hope no one paid $22,990 for that sony in the advert!

    • @jimbo1531
      @jimbo1531 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Daniel of course, it was just so glaringly obvious it made me laugh to myself.

    • @BgT1990
      @BgT1990 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That leapt out at me too lol @7:20 how on earth could a consumer camera cost so much?!

    • @Tom-Lahaye
      @Tom-Lahaye 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's a mini DV camera, and Googled it, turns out the MSRP was $2699.- for this camera, so the price in the advert must be most likely $2299.- and the shown price is a typo (noticed the single small digit 9 where other prices all end at 99 cents)
      I was wondering initially about this price as well, camcorders weren't cheap back then and would you set back a fair part of a months income or more, but for $22,000.- you would get professional kit.

    • @Nolroa
      @Nolroa 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BgT1990 It cost a lot because not only were they buying the camcorder, it was a complete package with a professional tripod, filters, a video tape box, a carrying case, a cleaning kit and five years warranty that included repairs and maintenance.
      And of course the price of $ 22,990 is a typo ... The only video cameras that had that price range at that time were the professional Betacam broadcasting camcorders.

    • @kevinr.3542
      @kevinr.3542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a typo, in the small print it says "includes one-on-one filmmaking class with Steven Spielberg, and a free pre-screening of AI:Artificial Intelligence

  • @andrewdavidh
    @andrewdavidh 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand why these videos are so interesting to me, yet somehow I end up spending hours watching through all of your stuff. Keep up the good work, great entertainment and it's good to learn stuff even if I don't know know a lot about some of the technology. :)

  • @yusdiy
    @yusdiy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    there's a VCR in the cartridge. :)

  • @andrewpowney6405
    @andrewpowney6405 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought one from Heathrow on the way to Cape Town for a 3 year work placement. Loved it. Sent VHS tapes home to my parents. In one I was hanging off a ledge half way up table mountain on the Camps Bay side. It was great to be able to stick the camera in your jeans pocket. Clearing out the attic... have just found it & it still works. I'm keeping it along with my 1980 Minolta XGM film canera that I used last Summer. Aperture priority & manual focus. Happy days.

  • @ddanny3108
    @ddanny3108 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My hi8 Sony camcorder of 1993 was able to fit in a bum bag, was hifi stereo and would record 180 minutes on lp. The quality was excellent. Lovely machine. I don't think full size VHS was still rented out in the late nineties. We recoded my degree ceremony on one in 1986.

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Those people who had rented VHS camcorders on their shoulders in Disney in Florida in 1996 must have just been in my imagination. I suppose this was when the hallucinations started.

    • @ddanny3108
      @ddanny3108 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Techmoan lol. I love the tone... just my pedantic nature.

    • @ddanny3108
      @ddanny3108 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Techmoan BTW the vhs c camcorder was shown in Back to the Future in 1985. I suspect the Americans you remember were using very old tech... I visited Florida in 1993 and 1994 and never saw an old school full size vhs camcorder... I hope you take this with a smile as I love your videos and suspect you may be sensitive rather than humorously sarcastic.

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Honestly the idea was that people who did not own a camcorder who made a trip to Disney and wanted to video it could rent a camcorder for the day - they recorded on full size VHS tapes - at the end of the day the tape went in a nice "My day at Disney" type VHS box, they took it home and played it on their VHS machines. If the rental places had given them a VHS-C camera or a Video 8 or a Hi-8 or a SVHS-C they couldn't have played it at home. They could of course have used a VHS-C adaptor, but then they'd have to buy that as well. This is why they used full size VHS machines as rentals. I remember it vividly as I hadn't seen these full size VHS camcorders since the early 1980s so I had to ask one of these people about their camera and they explained the whole rental process to me. I then later saw the rental shop near the exit.

    • @ddanny3108
      @ddanny3108 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Techmoan I see. And again, sorry if you think I'm being awkward. I'm a huge fan. Thanks for bothering to reply. :-)

  • @jeffcook3747
    @jeffcook3747 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there James! (Sorry if that's not your name. I thought I heard you mention it in an earlier video.) Just wanted to say that I really enjoy all your videos. I really like to see all the older tech equipment. You do a great job of narrating and wouldn't be surprised if you were ever offered a job doing a retro tech segment on a consumer affairs TV show. Thanks for making all these cool shows!

  • @Mickice
    @Mickice 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    SONY is probably king for one off unique designs.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got that right, and for use of expensive propriety formats that rarely catch on(Blu-ray, and CD being exceptions).

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      They made the U-matic which was used by nearly every news station in the world till the late 90s.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clay3613 Well we are talking consumer market not professional market, but yes beta, and BetaMax was very popular in the pro market for it's better broadcast resolution when compared to something like VHS.

    • @NotATube
      @NotATube 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Commodorefan64 ; Pedantry time, but that's a common misconception. Betamax might have been slightly better than VHS, but it wasn't popular in (or good enough for) the pro market. The pros used Betacam, the first versions of which *did* use the same physical tape as Betamax, but with a completely incompatible recording format and much faster tape speed. I'm betting that the recorders were also far more expensive.
      I'm a green muppet and I don't care :-P

  • @TRYtoHELPyou
    @TRYtoHELPyou 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    your videos are simply awesome and inspiring. I feel like I should get some of my old equipment out and get to making some retro reviews.. thanks for sharing

  • @mclaine33
    @mclaine33 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sony using stupid proprietary storage options once again... it never fails. People complained about the Vita and PSP using odd Memory card formats... this just serves as proof that Sony has been doing this for ages now!

    • @mclaine33
      @mclaine33 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      haha very funny... so what I put a cap M instead of a lowercase by accident. Don't make it a big deal bro.

    • @mclaine33
      @mclaine33 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maxx Fordham It was a typo. My phone auto capitalized it for some reason.

    • @SketchTurnerZero
      @SketchTurnerZero 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maxx Fordham so you are one of this annoying muppets character at the end of the video))

  • @Yapostadodat
    @Yapostadodat 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love vintage electronics and these videos are a dream. Thanks for posting these, I'm haven't donated to patreon yet but I am watching the adds the whole way through and clicking on them. Thanks for your work. Love the framed, obscure non English laser discs in the background of Westworld, Back to The Future and TRON.

  • @izzieb
    @izzieb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm so glad we no longer use MiniDV. No need to capture the footage over FireWire and less chance of losing sound/video due to bad heads or tape.

    • @Milnoc
      @Milnoc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've had that happen to me. Very annoying It's too bad though. Even at 1440x1080 MPEG2, my old Canon camcorder produced excellent video.

    • @izzieb
      @izzieb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      François Caron A few friends and i used to use a Canon XL2. it was a LOVELY camera to work with, but the MiniDV ruined it. We had so many issues with audio it's unbelievable.

    • @chartle1
      @chartle1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh yes FireWire. I used that for my panasonic mini DV camcorder. Last tape based unit. I then used a panasonic (i think) sd card camcorder that is what I would use unless I use my phone.

    • @genericgreensquid6669
      @genericgreensquid6669 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree. I love magnetic tape formats.

    • @prfo5554
      @prfo5554 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it true that if you play a video on a Mini-Dv Camcorder, that the heads need cleaned on, that the video will for ever after have green bars on them forever afterwards even while using them on other Mini-DV Players/ Camcorders?
      P.S. I'm just asking this because I have a mini-DV camcorder manufactured from the mid to late 2000's that one day randomly started to flash clean heads and all the videos on that I played through it had green streaks while using the camcorder. Also, it still does it after using a "new" old stock Panasonic Cleaning tape on the camcorder.

  • @MarcWeertsMusic
    @MarcWeertsMusic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Such products always create the impression with me that the team that had to develop the recording medium didn't deliver the next gen in time and they had to improvise something that would still fit into the small camera that another team was developing.

  • @kirankankipati-thelinuxcha689
    @kirankankipati-thelinuxcha689 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wow. Amazing. Initially I thought it got some kind of HDD in it and platters. It looked like a miniature harddisk :)
    Enjoyed watching this video LOL !

  • @moneyprofessional
    @moneyprofessional 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just have to say I'm loving watching your videos. This one was particularly funny, loved the rant at the end. You are so entertaining and witty especially when reviewing some "bad" tech. What on earth do you do with all the stuff you get on ebay and the new equipment that isnt even very good? Surely you dont keep it all, do you just sell it again or give it/throw some of it away eventually?

  • @helmet098
    @helmet098 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That cartridge is the memory stick of the 90s

  • @pspr33
    @pspr33 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely loved reading the description with the Q&A 👍
    Big fan of your stuff, keep it up!

  • @amcluesent
    @amcluesent 8 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    No wonder Sony never saw the iPod coming

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      iPod did nothing new.

    • @MixelsLab
      @MixelsLab 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Clay3613 It's main selling points were the UI and pocketability.(good for a 5GB device at the time)

    • @biolinkstudios
      @biolinkstudios 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My phone was better, Sony Ericsson W580i then the ipod by miles

    • @MixelsLab
      @MixelsLab 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      G-Metric the w580i came out 5 years after the original iPod so that's hardly surprising?

    • @markpenrice6253
      @markpenrice6253 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The point they're making is valid however, mp3 players, including HDD and flash based ones, were old news, and you could already get phones with the capability baked in before either the iPhone or iPod.
      And indeed the Sony K-series (never mind the tacky Ws) were pretty good as converged feature phones and PMPs. I'm pretty annoyed, for one thing, that smartphones have bloated out so much and so you can't get a touchscreen device about the size of a K750 or 810 (...i think those are the right numbers?) which can play your tunes, take photos & videos, make calls, send/receive messages / use IM apps, or browse the web... even if full smartphone functionality was restricted as a result...
      ...even though those phones could do all those things to varying degrees, albeit with a keypad and a somewhat low-rez screen. I think you can still get some featurephones that follow the same plan but they're chunky, cheap and functional rather than sleek, powerful and well-made.
      The 750 (570?) I had in late 2004 when my existing Siemens C65 (itself decent but very lacking in internal storage and devoid of card slot) got broken, and a couple years later I inherited a k810 when a relative upgraded from it... Not sure where that sits vs the iPod timeline, but certainly I *already* had a 20gb mp3 player using a 1.8" HDD (same as the iPod Mini, when the Apple devices were still using 2.5s) before the phone came along.

  • @itbestuk
    @itbestuk 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love seeing old footage, especially when just uncovered from an old camera. 2000 seems like a lifetime ago, when I was 21 😢

  • @iamdarkyoshi
    @iamdarkyoshi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Yeah I can see why this idea never caught on... it is stupid.
    *ahem*
    torx

    • @the-bizzy-bee
      @the-bizzy-bee 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'dems fightin words here on the yourtubes

  • @dvogonen
    @dvogonen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your reviews of obsolete and obscure technology are simply brilliant. Here are a few photo-related not-so-well-thought-throug products that would make for good videos: Any of the ill fated APS system cameras (especially Minolta), The APS system as a whole, the first Pentax autofokus system camera(me-f), the Yashica Samurai, Olympus L-3, the Pentax auto 110 system.

  • @martyslackjaw
    @martyslackjaw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Woah, that footage of London was from 16 years ago today, the day i'm watching the video.

  • @Gannett2011
    @Gannett2011 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 5:59, my hometown of Gloucester! The Docks are totally transformed now, shops, pubs, cafes, actually rather nice compared to what it was like 10 or 20 years ago.

  • @veggiet2009
    @veggiet2009 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was hoping you'd show footage from your camera from two years prior... I agree this is bizarre... it possibly was stuck in development for years. being development concurrently with formats like MiniDV and then when MiniDV came out it got stuck in development, and then eventually rather than shelving the work they had done someone said "oh well, let's just release it"

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Video Description Text Box

  • @AtheistOrphan
    @AtheistOrphan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! I've been badgering you to do a review of this for ages! Great stuff!

  • @leisergeist
    @leisergeist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    hah, I thought that JVC one looked familiar
    fuck I miss Stargate

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I had to buy & download episode 1 from Amazon in HD to grab that pic. It holds up well (from what I watched)

    • @avamander.
      @avamander. 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I miss it too.

    • @davepusey
      @davepusey 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was shot on film, so in theory they could rescan it to HD one day.

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They already did.

    • @avamander.
      @avamander. 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dave Pusey Assuming they haven't auctioned the films off like they did with everything else. A lot has been lost to god knows where unfortunately.

  • @Rj-tz5kb
    @Rj-tz5kb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep the retro stuff coming! love it!

  • @ens0246
    @ens0246 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where do you get your old magazine sources?

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Books.google.com

    • @ens0246
      @ens0246 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I had no idea they had archived magazines.

  • @petersmyczek2297
    @petersmyczek2297 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    haha, that is amazing! I watched quite a good deal of your videos already, plenty of them showing noticeably bizarre concepts from the customer electronics industry across the past decades. This one here is really amongst the top5 I'd say.
    Anyways, thank you so much for your channel, the effort you are putting into your videos, and your particularly well made balance of professional historic investigation part with that great sense of sarcasm/humour you are putting into your videos. Really thank you! PS: I never thought watching someone talking about old electronics from the past could be so entertaining and worthwhile watching!

  • @ASilentS
    @ASilentS 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hupfeld Phonoliszt-Violina cameo @6:10. Maybe something for a future review..........

  • @zachw2906
    @zachw2906 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    fascinating "solution" to the miniaturization problem. I actually love solutions that come about when somebody asks the question that everyone's overlooked up to then (in this case "why do we need all that extra junk to load and eject tapes?").

  • @Elifesound
    @Elifesound 8 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Hey! That's my old camera! I put it on ebay and forgot to delete the footage of my trip to London!! I want it back!! LOL 😂 😂 😂 Love your videos man!

    • @muh1h1
      @muh1h1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Are you serious? :D

    • @Elifesound
      @Elifesound 8 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      LOL No...just playin.

    • @muh1h1
      @muh1h1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ***** Haha, OK, you never know :D

    • @Elifesound
      @Elifesound 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      LOL That's true...

    • @1blisslife
      @1blisslife 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Rex amillion I was about to say.... "You know where he lives then". lol

  • @paul_grimsley
    @paul_grimsley 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these lost format videos Matt. I was of course expecting it to be a hard drive! Amazing, never knew this existed.

    • @paul_grimsley
      @paul_grimsley 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeh, like a smaller version of a hard drive from an old IBM PS/2, they were a similar shape, taller than modern HD's. I'm not the only one then Maxx, thank you.

  • @coolbeans2045
    @coolbeans2045 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    doh! you just reminded me I have a Ruvi stashed away in a drawer.
    I'm going to dig it out right now and try and see what's on it.

  • @SacredSalad
    @SacredSalad 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing this video. I've used a lot of different video formats but never heard of this one. It's hard to believe that anyone at Sony thought this was a good idea.

  • @thewanderingalbatross1061
    @thewanderingalbatross1061 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Talking about tech that never made it: did you ever do a minidisk video? Man I thought that was going to be hot. Paid $430 for something my phone now does. They even had new music coming out on them for a short time.

    • @M6GOF
      @M6GOF 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Minidisc was a good format but there was two problems:
      (1) Thick morons/bad marketing where for some stupid reason people thought it was going to replace CD. I was talking about Minidisc earlier to my missus and she didn't know it recorded. Point proven.
      (2) Steve Jobs and the evil iPod.
      It was gaining reasonable traction in the late 1990s, cost of recorders fell (my MDS JE-510 was only £200) and the cost of blanks became quite reasonable. But, then CD recorders came out and the blanks were even cheaper again. Then, there was DCC. I could mention DAT, but that was out of reach for most people and more for professional recording purposes. I nearly bought a DAT, but decided that saving up forever wasn't worth it so got a Minidisc.
      Most people paid no attention to CD recorders, DCC or Minidisc and continued using tape until mp3 took over.

    • @wisteela
      @wisteela 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds a cool odd item

    • @38911bytefree
      @38911bytefree 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought the same too. I bought my MZ37R and I was telling me, hey, my FIRST DIGITAL audio recorder. Two week after I was using my old trusty Toshiba Walkman and tape. Minidisc (in my case) was insane battery hungry. Only 3hr or palyback and 40min recording. It was useless. After comparing it against tape, good recorded ones sounded a bit better in highs, so I gave up. What killed Minidisk was MP3, Internet just took off and very little material were released on Minidisk. It look like a CD, it was digital, .... but it was compressed. Portable MP3 players just were far superior in every posible aspect. By the end Sony allowed MP3 and up to 1GB x disc .... but .... too late.

    • @38911bytefree
      @38911bytefree 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They had the MAVICA CD. It was a camera that stored photos on little CDR. It was slow as h3ll and once you pressed the shotter, a message appeared on the viewfinder, instructing you about NOT MOVING the camera too much since it was recording to the CD. Earlier MAvica used 3 1/2 FLOPPY disks .... Its a Sony.

    • @RobertSzasz
      @RobertSzasz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The minidisc was a great format once the USB enabled ones came out. And the magnetic/optic discs could survive just about anything. Certainly more trouncing than the compact flash microdrive could which I think was the only competition in the size/storage class for removable media.

  • @ShapeyFiend
    @ShapeyFiend 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think my favourite part of these Techmoan videos is fast becoming the part where he tries to preempt the complaints in the TH-cam comments.

  • @youpie
    @youpie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    it would be cooler if you posted this vid 3 days later! (4:47) XD

  • @cpnnpr
    @cpnnpr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing how far we've come. Appreciate you looking into this for us.

  • @sprklfaz
    @sprklfaz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    was that footage of gloucester docks?! haha

  • @life5161
    @life5161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    EVERYTHING looks GREAT to us people who grew up on VHS and sub 480p tv's. I'm 40 and how far we've come is mind blowing. 1080P STILL blows my socks off.

  • @ChrisD4335
    @ChrisD4335 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    why cant u replace the cartridge yourself? it pops right out

    • @AlRoderick
      @AlRoderick 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I think the idea was that the authorized dealer would send the old cartridge back to Sony, it'd replace the five cents worth of tape in the unit and sell it back to you as a reconditioned replacement part.

    • @-DeScruff
      @-DeScruff 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I imagined the price of those carts was a lot because the whole mechanism is inside it.
      At $80 no wonder they didn't advertise it as user replaceable (despite looking very user accessible), any potential buyer would have saw how much you would have to pay per 30 min, and start looking at the other brand's camcorders.
      Too bad Sony didn't remember that expensive storage never looks good, when it came to the Vita...

    • @MrXavierRose
      @MrXavierRose 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sounds like Sony to me...

    • @Spritetm
      @Spritetm 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just looked it up, you can still get the cartridges at about E5/pop... now I'm tempted to experiment with them, see if I can get any storage onto them...

    • @kbbbb7
      @kbbbb7 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should, do a hack of it and then post back here :)

  • @andregross7420
    @andregross7420 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing video from the previous owner, interesting to see things from 15 years ago. I was alive then but was too young to remember anything from that time.

  • @Bleats_Sinodai
    @Bleats_Sinodai 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sony's Bizarre Adventure into the world of camcorders

    • @cerealata9035
      @cerealata9035 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do we have to *POSE* while using the Ruvi?

  • @waldsteiger
    @waldsteiger 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    the video cartridge is a thing of beauty. thanks for showing!

  • @Crlarl
    @Crlarl 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can you do a video on the PXL-2000? It's a toy camera that recorded monochrome video to audio cassettes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PXL-2000

  • @produKtNZ
    @produKtNZ 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really did enjoy this video, and I especially love the part whereas, 11:47 "And I know whats killing everyone now.... WHATS IN THE CARTRIDGE"
    This is completely spot on. Great to see you know how the minds of 1,000's of viewers want :D

  • @solidamber
    @solidamber 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    sony knew what they where doing, their aim was to make the most miniature camcorder possible, which they achieved, they realised they recording format was a dead duck but just wantead the kudos of being the smallest on the market.

    • @markpenrice6253
      @markpenrice6253 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is kinda their thing. Or at least it was until Motorola and then Apple started pulling the rug out from them here and there.
      I think they still have the record for the smallest usable cassette, CD, and vinyl players, for example. Back from when they actually made desirable, high quality gear, rather than relying on the badge alone to make sales :/
      (to be fair, though, the Xperia Z phones are pretty slick too... however there's not much else the company makes that causes me to sit up and pay attention, and I've either had or seen enough issues with CD and Minidisc players/recorders of theirs, as well as boomboxes, portable radios, and TVs for the spell to have been broken)

    • @ssss-df5qz
      @ssss-df5qz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah but whether the recording drum is in the camera, or in a cartridge, it's still the same volume either way?
      There literally is no rational reason to have this how it was.

    • @solidamber
      @solidamber 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you look inside a sony 8mm camcorder most of the space is taken up by the tape loading mechanism not the head

    • @ssss-df5qz
      @ssss-df5qz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that makes sense.

  • @desmo750f1
    @desmo750f1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to see the mechanical music museum by Kew bridge in the crumbling church it used to be in. It now has a purpose designed building. Well worth a visit.

  • @PolesAreEverywhere
    @PolesAreEverywhere 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12:03 I didnt watch the whole wideo yet, let me guess, inside there is a tape

    • @PolesAreEverywhere
      @PolesAreEverywhere 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fucking knew it right from the start

    • @rochr4
      @rochr4 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dzien Dybry

    • @PolesAreEverywhere
      @PolesAreEverywhere 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rochr4 Posdrawiam wszystkich Polakuff!

    • @my3dviews
      @my3dviews 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No. Inside there is a full size LaserDisc. :-)

    • @PolesAreEverywhere
      @PolesAreEverywhere 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My3dviews either this or 8track tape :D

  • @dailyraillive1492
    @dailyraillive1492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just picked up a Sony hifi minidisc video ins. Never knew about this! Great video again!

  • @maxwillson
    @maxwillson 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ahahaha! That's stupid! Might as well buy a camera with a super 8 tape and re-use the 2 hour tape over and over again! No wonder Sony didn't want you to take it apart, they were ripping you off ahahaha!

  • @Noone-of-your-Business
    @Noone-of-your-Business 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy your vids. There is so much bizarre tech stuff that most people never come across. Thanks for sharing!

  • @narutohokage20
    @narutohokage20 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    that little stargate fact made me happier than it should have

  • @MattGamesYT
    @MattGamesYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just been reminded of an early digital camera I had that recorded directly to floppy disk. What an absolute beast that was.

  • @kakureru
    @kakureru 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The world was a scary place before cheap flash.

  • @paulaxford6754
    @paulaxford6754 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still have my Ruvi, bought new on impulse for US$300 when they were being run out. There was no indication on the packaging that it was simply an analog camcorder and I did feel let down when I found out. If nothing else it's well-made, great quality throughout.

    • @NotATube
      @NotATube 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I sure as heck wouldn't have paid £800 for this, but $300 (£200 to £250 back then?) sounds like quite a good deal for the time.

  • @IAmNotAFunguy
    @IAmNotAFunguy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do a video about the Sony MicroMV.

    • @HobertMcFarlandtechandcargeek
      @HobertMcFarlandtechandcargeek 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      IAmNotAFunguy If you would read the description, you would know the answer to your question. cheers!

  • @msylvain59
    @msylvain59 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am trying to find one for my collection, they are pretty rare. May I ask how much you paid for yours ?

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I forget exactly, but it was about £40.

  • @Frisenette
    @Frisenette 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    That wrinkled shirt spoiled the whole video for me. Next time do a test shot.

    • @TheNinToaster
      @TheNinToaster 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Helge Frisenette check the description box, he mentions this and why he did it

    • @Frisenette
      @Frisenette 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nikki Babaii This is getting confusing. ;-)

    • @peterrafeiner9461
      @peterrafeiner9461 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You are kidding, aren't you?
      You MUST be kidding!
      I mean I had to go back to see if he was even wearing a shirt.
      Than again, I watch for the (excellent) info, not for the fashion show :-)

    • @Frisenette
      @Frisenette 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      How he presents himself is an important part of the show. I enjoy his understated style. I can't be the only one who notices his dapper and smart attire.

    • @evilutionltd
      @evilutionltd 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Helge Frisenette no TH-camr deserves a viewer like this.

  • @stevenbrown5693
    @stevenbrown5693 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was shocked when you opened that cartridge! I did not expect little spools of High8 video tape. I used High8 back in the 90's. I always said I would have the tapes transferred to some better storage option in the future. I thought VHS looked awful back then.

  • @CaalamusTube
    @CaalamusTube 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guh!
    No Puppets!?
    :[
    ( ...cool old Tech though√ )

    • @CaalamusTube
      @CaalamusTube 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maxx Fordham
      I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment.

  • @trublgrl
    @trublgrl 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually love the ideas in this little gadget. Sony in the late eighties through the early 2000's was a very innovative company, and they released products with a lot of new ideas. Probably after the success of the walkman, they kept looking for the next thing that would solve a problem that no one knew they had. The idea of this video cartridge actually solves a real problem, though. In the days of VHS, the number one problem with video transports was the loading of the tapes. The release mechanisms, tape lifters, complex swing arms used to wrap the tape around a movable head, these were where most transports failed. By eliminating the tape mounting, Sony was betting that the transport would last a lot longer, and be hassle-free. In retrospect, the problems you mention about the immediate downgrade of quality in the dubbing, and the limited record time made this something less than a powerhouse product, but it was a cool idea that they chose to test out in the real world with real consumers. Bravo to them, this is how innovation happens.
    Anyway, a very enjoyable video. subbed and upvoted!

  • @bazahaza
    @bazahaza 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please , lease , lease iron your shirt before making videos. It's vet disrespectful.

    • @Techmoan
      @Techmoan  8 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      next you'll say I have to wear pants.

    • @bazahaza
      @bazahaza 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I'm ok with that. I'm not either !

    • @Estlib
      @Estlib 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      i expect you to wear atleast underpants

    • @SergeantOvK
      @SergeantOvK 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bazahaza Please, please, please read your comment BEFORE posting it.

    • @bazahaza
      @bazahaza 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      hy? hat as rong ith t? LOL!

  • @mookie714
    @mookie714 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed this quite a lot. I love learning about qwirky one offs that were intended to solve a problem but instead turned out to be bad ideas.