My wife and I are both engineers and its lifted us both out of generational poverty. We recently got out of some debts and our happiness level has gone way up. Now its all going to savings and the mortgage. Couldn't be more content and happy right now.
Just a degree won't get you happiness but financial freedom will. For many a *useful* degree can really jumpstart a career in a high paying field and the sky can be the limit.
@@Acid31337 no effort to succeed? Even if degrees weren't a thing the cream will rise to the top. The people who work smarter not harder will soon be at the top of society while people who want to do the bare minimum will stick to menial labor. Some people will always value their free time more than they do advancing their position or wealth in life. Nothing morally wrong with that. Just don't get upset when people who have more talent or want to put in the time end up being the boss.
Financial freedom without a goal won't make you happy. Look at all those ultrarich stars who end up dying of drug abuse. Money without purpose is surviving, not living.
If we are talking about happiness then the answer is 100% no. If the question is about likelihood of financial success, the answer is the odds are far greater with a college degree.
Syn Cty have you ever heard the term “anecdotal evidence”? It is a fact that college graduates on average earn more than those without a college degree.
Absolutely Not. But when jobs paying $11 an hour require a college degree it tells you 1 of 2 things: Either kids are less prepared out of high school and now college is needed as a "filter" or college has become worthless
College is just getting more and more useless, I guess. Back then, (wasn’t even ‘back then’ more so like a couple years ago) for a CRNA you just needed to do your bachelors in nursing, get some experience being a nurse, and go to and finish a nurse anesthetist program and you’re good. Now more and more employers are demanding you get a masters in nursing/anesthesiology.
Ne Ws It’s getting more and more useless as times goes on for some majors you can just get your bachelors and start a career. It’s like there’s so many people that have a BS in this or that, to the point where if they want a job they can’t just gets BS they may have to get a Masters/PhD
Near the end of 2019, at the age of 27, I was only making a few dollars above minimum wage in Southern California. I finally decided to do some research on what careers were in demand and paid well. I picked Computer Science since that was the one that interested me the most. I debated returning to college, but I worked during the day full time and didn't have the money to quit or take less hours. Then I just taught myself web development with TH-cam and Udemy. Studied and coded 4-6 hours a day, 7 days a week. After a little over a year, I landed a web development job making $75K. Zero loans to pay for.
"Lebron James didn't go to College" Yeah sure... just go be Lebron James then and be rich. The question itself is inherently flawed. You don't need a college degree to be: smarter, richer, happier. The "need" in the question itself creates a biased absolute where all you need is one example in a million to reach the verdict you don't need. The more interesting (and relevant) question is if it helps, or if the average person benefits more from it. You hear of Bill Gates as a drop out sure, but you probably don't hear of the thousands of John Doe's who just end with minimum wage jobs instead. Where are all the unemployed people with criminal records that dropped out in this interview? That is right, you don't hear of them. Nobody cares about them, the reporters themselves also prove that point by just going after those that are successful instead of bothering to show those that failed. Rather ask if people with college degrees in average benefit more from it. Also consider studying abroad, that is what many people abroad already do. Americans should consider that especially since they are the most expensive in the world.
But they did not mention those athletes who got broke. Because they dont want it to be in the news. Shaquille O'Neil is one of the biggest example that College Degree is a must. He even told his children that they need to present a college degree before they can have a part of the inheritance. Because Shaq is a really smart guy he always ask for financial advice. Unlike other NBA and other american professional athletes and celebrities after they have no more contract project offers endorsement gigs side hussle or whatever you call it some of them literally end up in thr streets. Like Allen Iverson if not for his endorsement deal he will become bankrupt. He buys every luxury imaginable. High paying jobs need a college degree not unless you are a celebrity or really gifted athlete. Look how big the salaries of those university professors. Look at the current CEO of Apple, Microsoft and Google most of them have not only college but a Masters Degree. Microsoft, Apple, Tesla Motors other big companies started by a college dropouts or no college degree. But most CEO like Intel, IBM, AMD hire engineers, accountants, business managers and other college degree holders. Because they need those highly skilled professionals to run their corporations
The only piece of paper that ever made me extremely happy, was the 5th grade love note I got from my crush! Having to check the box that said I liked her too was pretty thrilling, much more than swiping right
It may be that a few university graduates are earning beaucoup bucks, skewing their _average_ income upwards. Many trades people earn good money, more so than graduates at the lower end of the pay scale
@@casper-z9rkls6gl perhaps this is because I'm Canadian but I'd consider a Journeyman Tradseperson college educated as they do need to do schooling at a (community) college, or other tertiary education institute to get their certification. In Canada most "Four year bachelors degrees" are issued by universities.
Kids need to research what professions are in demand and valuable in the market place. Too many people go to school for potato decorating and jump rope, then complain that theyre in debt and underpaid.
People should be allowed to do what they want with their time and their money. If that's potatoe decorating that thats what its going to be for them. Most people usually never get jobs in what they went to school for in the first place. And people shouldn't have to take up a major they are not interested in just because its what "hot" at the moment. Worry about yourself!
Melanie T. Williams federally insured student loans are insured by tax payers. If potato masters default, guess who is on the hook for their passion. There is nothing wrong with doing whatever you want as long as you got the money to pay for it. Going into debt that people may never pay off is folly.
I never went to college and am considered lower middle class when it comes to financial standing. And I’ve never been happier! Money is a tool but not everything. I live a simple life and am happy this way, debt free yet far from rich.
@Emerald Anastasia ivy league cost sometimes 3times as amount as a regular state school example I had a guy in high school go to yale an study sociology not a bad degree but way to much for the return amount now I know a guy who went to the university of Colorado Springs an just finished his masters only has 15k worth of debt who smarter in your opinion?
@Ne Ws the drop out rate is actually the same my guy I mean I went to a univeristy who had a 39% graduation rate an thats pretty average for a lot of what you people consider NCAA division 2 schools it just boils down to person I see more people who worked from associates to bachelor's be in less debt an more hungry driven then guy who went an got his straight bachelor's but I'm military its a differnet world.
@Emerald Anastasia sorry that your experience my story opposite whenim graduated my family was considered middle class based they don't count military extra pay into yearly income on top of my dad deployed a lot during my college years so they went off my mother teaching income so my aid paid for my whole associates degree an most of bachelor's in the end I only owed 8k compared to others. Ivy League's man some are generous I'll give you that I had a couple students in my class 2015 get into ivy league an there debt is like crippling I'm proud of your sister for for getting stem mines in physical education an I want to go back an finish a masters in school adminstration.i can't fathom stem degrees being oversaturated based upon the level grit I takes to finish those disciplines even in the end there income outshines a teacher's income who pays the same amount for the degree an both jobs are needed in society. Nice chat
@Ne Ws im not cherry picking if anyone cherry picking look at yourself you literally said 50% people who go to community college drop out you didn't have no source thats just your straight opinion I show you 2 universities thats have a low graduation rate an said it basically depends on the person whether they want to finish you just spitting opinions at this point. You going to say as long as your around ambitious people you do well ok well there ambitious people at community college as well.
I got a chemE degree, I chose to pursue a 30k stipend for grad school instead of the 80k starting salary. I get more freedom and can indulge my curiosity, so that worked for me. Plus I’ll make the same money when I graduate, but I’ll enjoy my job more.
L.A it’s a shame that healthcare admin gets paid so much. Disgusting. I can understand doctors and nurses.. but administrative bloat is ruining so many industries.
I wouldn't say college is for everyone, but if executed correctly it could be the best decision that you could ever make! Atleast that's how it was for me.
@Emperorick2 not really. The more you wait to go to college, the harder it is to get in. And many colleges won't accept a dropout since it shows that they cannot handle college.
Ok so my mom is a medical physicist and she said she could most definitely do her job without the 10 years of college needed to get a PhD (I think it's 10 yrs?) BUT the thing is she wouldn't have gotten the job she has now without the degree.... They hired her because she has the PhD. The company wanted her instead of someone with, say, a masters degree. So to have the financial freedom she does (she makes 6 figures) you normally need a pretty good degree or else get really really fortunate (like youtubers, actors, singers, etc) "money doesn't buy happiness" is total BS. I won't be happy in life being forced to spend my life drowning in debt, with little to no vacation time and a not so nice apartment. Having financial freedom to do all these things in life I want to experience will make me happier and more fulfilled, and it would probably make the majority of the population happy as well. I'm not saying you need 6 figures to be happy: I'm saying being comfortable enough to have a fulfilling life is. So if a fulfilling life for you is working a low paying job, drowning in debt, and staying at home most of the time, then "money doesn't buy happiness" is true for you. For the rest of us, that phrase is utter BS
To have the discussion on college and happiness is unproductive, especially when we are literally talking in the context of a happiness formula (aka, does x lead to happiness) (1) College is linked with career mobility/options (2) Happiness is linked to the self-evaluation of your situation (e.g., are you content with where you are?) So the question shouldn't be "does college makes you happy," but rather do you personally value having a wider career options and/or advancement. If yes, college will definitely make you happy.
Good point. The entire video is loaded, but since it’s not a 2 way discussion it’s pretty hard to justify an essay in the comments. They are conflating happiness with a lot of presuppositions that aren’t agreed on, and should be contested.
My job position requires a college degree (specifically engineering) which got me a financial freedom. I live below my means and don’t ever have to worry about not being able to eat and therefore I am happy
People should start college at 20 instead of 18. They should spend two years working full-time or doing something like military service, Peace Corps, or an apprenticeship in a trade skill before going to college. This would lead a lot of people to a more fulfilled life and less drop out rates. Also, the govt should force colleges to eliminate degrees which have little financial promise such as liberal arts. They should also limit admissions to humanities related degrees. These degrees are not highly in demand and result in a lot of people being unable to repay their student loans afterwards.
It saddens me that more and more jobs require a college degree, while college teaches you extremely little that's actually valuable for the job. In this sense, it's useless, so I wish jobs didn't require a college degree, but they do regardless. I didn't enjoy college at all and wish there was a better way of investing years of your life into something more valuable
Jack Smith I feel like when people make that statement it’s very… In a bubble LOL colleges exist outside of this country where this is definitely not the case.
Working for myself has provided more happiness than finishing a degree to work for a company that only values my results. I'm happy I attended college for a while and now that I'm comfortable enough financially I could consider going back for a couple semesters to finish my degree. Maybe I will, maybe I won't.
I only feel "happy" about my degrees when I talk to friends who don't have them and see how dissatisfied they are w/ their lives & how relatively satisfied w/mine. I then realize it's not really the degrees that make me happy---it's just my circumstances that are actually pretty great, and that's what really makes me happy. When I rejected a job for $45/hr because I knew I deserved at least $65, I realized how valuable my degrees are.
Absolutely the answer is NO!!, We don’t need college degree or papers to have a value as people. Knowledge is free. “You can find people(young and old) on internet teaching better than a paid teacher(parasite).
If people enjoy being educated then college will make you happy and you don’t even need to got to college to be educated, but if people are going to college to make money theirs other paths in life for money
But college isn’t the only option to get you educated while saving you from tons of debt. School system in America has turned into a business more than focus on getting people educated
@Waterkun College is the best and most efficient option to getting an education, you cant argue against that. If you go to college and major in something useful and in-demand, it will definitely be worth it
Better question is: do you need college to be financially stable/independent? Is it worth it/advantageous having at least a Bachelor’s degree in order to eventually pay off student debt? Whether you need it for happiness, you absolutely don’t need a college degree to be happy
Without a degree, he won't have much space to improve and grow. pretty soon he WILL need a degree. most jobs in the CS field don't accept people without a degree. He is just one of the lucky ones
@@thedog5k he's right, most jobs won't employ people without degrees. HR and the ATS system drops applications without degrees regardless of skill and experience
Happiness from a college degree depends on the college you attend, the resources that are provided, the major / study you pursue, the community / network, and the cost. Do a cost-to-performance evaluation and see whether you choice (school, major, etc.) leads to both a passion / dream job of yours AND pays well. Look at the job market and demand for the major. Majors in S.T.E.M. and Business are typically worth it. Great public state schools (Rutgers, UC, Mich, Penn State, etc.) are worth it. This is a sure way to guarantee happiness from a college degree.
If you still think you receive happiness from a degree than you are still really naive in life. Friends, passions, hobbies, travel, genuine relationships, nature, all have higher impact on happiness than a college degree from any university. Simply ask those who already had their degrees and lived for 20 year after their degree how happy they are. Ask honest people for honest answers
Going to college is my biggest regret. I'm a server now because I love it and I earn more money than I would with my degree most days. I have less freedom because I'm working on paying my student loans off versus if I never went to college. Plus, I hated the act of college with the tests, projects, and homework. I spend most of me free time these days educating myself which I should have done in the first place.
Just graduated college but regret it so much. Now I have to wait for my trade school application to go through so I can actually start a real career. Should've started that immediately after high school. Better late than never, I suppose
i think skill education is important like learning how to do a marketable skill but that doesn't always mean you need to go to a traditional 4 year college in order to gain these skills. in fact lots of college degrees don't actually prepare you for a real job after you graduate and you're left with little options outside of the cycle of going back to school again and again to gain marketable skills
"need" a degree is relative to how hard someone wants to work. my boyfriend and father both make over well 100k a year with no degree. my boyfriend started as a painter and is now sandblasting foreman. he worked and continues to work hard so we can have a good life. if you want to sit in a cubicle then yes spend 50k on a degree and make 35 a year and be miserable. thats your choice its not the only option
I'm thinking about dropping out in my last semester. I am getting a business degree and am waking up to how much time and money I've wasted. If I could do it again I would have done community college.
No it mostly gives you a job, people will still be as bad in repairing the engine of their car, their heat pumps, doing IRS papers, etc if they do not learn those skills over time in their daily lives.
I don’t think education or money can buy happiness. But I think it helps. College is also a time to grow up from a child to young adult. Fly the coop. Mature a little. I learned so much in college not only educationally but about myself. Plus now I have a degree that I can put on my resume for a lifetime. When choosing between candidates a lot of times the college diploma holder will advance before a high school diploma.
Having a college degree may not necessarily make graduates happy . . . but not having one seems to make a few/some people facing economic and social hardship more prone to "deaths of despair", due to alcoholism, comfort junk food, drugs, suicide. University educated people are more likely to seek professional counseling, meeting with friends, exercise, walk in the woods, spas, yoga, meditation, persistence, self-help books, seminars.
I went to college pursuing a b.a. but the stress of college was way too much for me. I just could not cope. I couldn't make friends no matter how many school events I went to, or clubs I signed up for. I went to a big state school and I just couldn't find my place. I was also totally overwhelmed by the schoolwork, commuting, holding a part-time job, renting an apartment and being responsible for all my own bills for the first time in my life, and I got engaged that year and started thinking about wedding planning which yes was a happy event but honestly the proposal came as quite a shock and I wanted to slow down the engagement but anybody who has ever gotten engaged knows that is not always so easy to do once the engagement becomes public knowledge. It got to the point where I was having panic attacks daily and was crying in class all the time because I was so stressed. I left my junior year. I feel so depressed about giving up but I really don't know what else I could have done. My mental health was really, really poor. After leaving college things really didn't improve though. I am still totally depressed about the whole experience. It feels like it was a huge waste of money. College only pays off if you FINISH- that's what they don't tell you!
It’s either you get a college degree or you become an entrepreneur. This video shows the value of a college degree outside of an education and it explains if you don’t get a college degree you better have a business idea or your life will be trash. I completely agree!
@@lurker993 because they are destroying their joints and exposing themselves to harmful chemicals in her fuel. A degree in the right subject can earn the same amount without the harm on their bodies
Not as many interviewers on here who wished they would have gone to college. Lets look at their lives. People with a college degree make much money over the course of their lives. Money doesn't equal happiness, but its important "tool" that you need. Remember nothing is free, and financial freedom is happiness in a sense to do whatever/whenever you want.
Never went to college. Have a GED, but at 19 I started investing 75 bucks a week 300 a month like clock work. At 24 I stepped it up to 500 per month in mutual funds. I'm 41 now and have never missed a month of investing since I was 19. Even in downturns 500 per month automatically invested. I have no financial worries
Honestly, I would go to college, but I just simply can’t stomach fact that the debt is beyond sense. To me, it’s not worth it due to the amount, and that most of the countries have free education, except for us here in USA most of the countries have universal healthcare. Canada has universal healthcare. Not us here in USA.
My girl work needed her degree from her last week and I was worried about her loosing her job 😴 but everything good now only because of deelscafe good work 👍.
I think we can all agree that a college degree is not the one variable for happiness. Higher educational attainment does offer different types of opportunities though. I think the most important point here is that the decision to go to college or not should be one that an individual makes, not one that is made for them because they are not adequately prepared by their high school education.
Let me tell you something. The education are undergoing inflation just like economy. As time passes more and more education are required, nonetheless the jobs are becoming more worthless. Might as well drop out and start something small and get a job that technically can do well with your personality. You would he surprised how alot of jobs are available in America without a degree. Better to start early than starting later with a worthless degree.
You don't have to get a degree to be happy. As long as you can make it work financially then you should be fine and if you actually like or love your job, you should be happy.
Depends on the career. If you gonna be a civil engineer or a RN then yes. If you wanna be a web developer or digital marketing then probably not. Same with trades. Depends on your field. Do your research on the field you trying to go into.
The lack of one limited my career goals. The higher educated you are then the longer you can work. You can only do a physical job for so long before you have to move it to the mental. Which means if you have a master's then you can teach or do more of a managerial job.
The problem is that many young ppl are going to college, just to go to college. Thinking it is the end-all be-all. As a high school teacher, I tell my students to research the job/career they want to pursue, and to go to college for that specific degree if the job requires it. Otherwise I tell them not to go to college.
It really depends on the career path you choose. If you want to become a doctor, you can't do it without a college degree. But you don't really need a college degree to start a business.
you also have to be talented, it's nothing to do with not going to college all those successful college drop outs you see as the icons for "you don't need college" got accepted to schools with 1-8% acceptance rates so they were already smart to begin with you don't need to go to college to be successful, yes, but it's a great stepping stone if you have no idea what to do or need peers to push you for a career path. you're never going to be a doctor or an architect without college.
I have a lot of options about this topic. I’m an education advocate. Nevertheless, college is not one size fits all. Unless a person is very smart and has an entrepreneurial spirit, the average person should earn a degree. However, it depends on what you study and what you plan to do with the degree. A degree will not make you “happy”, “rich” or even “smart”. But I think most people should pursue a degree, especially BIPOC. Cost is definitely a factor to consider. I think it’s better to earn a degree while you’re young. But a lot of people go the non-traditional route, and go back to school when they’re older.
Stay in college and go for something in demand. Don’t go for your passion unless your passion is a stem. You get financial foundations then you can do a hobby.
Soooo facts. And I have a strong plan that lies ahead of time for me to be financially success as I am a dropout. Working full time for a yesr and a half.
@@Michael-lp9bg I certainly don't mean that graduates don't become successful too, but just look at history, John D Rockefeller, not graduated, richest man ever to live in USA, Henry Ford, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Sir Richard Branson, Michael S Dell, all not graduated, even Mark Zuckerberg, graduated after building Facebook, these are just some I'm familiar with in the industry I'm interested in, and I'm sure examples like these are in every possible Industry
J R Sure there are many very successful people that dropped out, but I’m not sure that all dropouts tend to be more successful. I would have to see statistics. The only dropouts we ever hear about are the ones who became successful, but I’d bet there are many we don’t hear about that ended up differently.
@@Michael-lp9bg Michael let me fill you in for real and relative facts in case for your delusional thinking. There are many people who adheres to degrees without ever thinking what they want to do with their lives. Majority of graduates aren't successful because they don't think outside of the box to be one. Moreover, more and more people drop out of high school to do TH-cam, media influencer and makes good money. Which is wayy much faster than living out schooling for 4+ years including graduate degree. Nowadays, you should read articles on why degrees aren't worth they should be in 2020.
No one likes to admit that all these "dropout" millionaires and billionaires dropped out from TOP schools. They had brilliant unique ideas that most dropouts don't have.
Unfortunately that's the lack of mathematical literacy skills. It's either 1) high school graduates earn 45% less than university educated people, or 2) university educated people earn 80% more than high school graduates.
@Fajitahmed Going back for grad school but majority of my friends are having trouble finding jobs. Most are probably going back for a Master's, the rest.... I just wish them good luck.
@@mikesoftner5833 lmfao of course kids like you say that cause you don't know the importance of how reality works :) stay stuck inside your old paper certificate under a rock.
Depends on which major. Art, music, history, psychology, etc? You'll most likely end up with 100K in debt while working at Starbucks. Medicide, engineering, law, business, STEM? No one that majored in those areas are complaining about college
I went to college, one of my brothers became a car mechanic and was certified while on the job and working with tests paid for by his employer. Guess who makes more money. He does, he got started in the professional career three years earlier and has more experience. Plus he did not take on many upfront expenses to do so, although he did have to buy his own tools and tool cabinet.
Short answer : no Long answer: depends what you want to do , whether the degree is needed, whether you actually enjoy the thing you wanted to do in the first place and if the thing you want to do is a sustainable way of living. example: if you've always wanted to become a scientist you'll likely need to get your bachelors, masters and PhD and it probably pays okay enough either in academia or in industry that you can live off of this passion of yours ( It pays okay in the Netherlands at least I doubt this is the case in the US though :P ). To the people who think you should just study whatever you feel like and incur debt to do so ... like wtf are you thinking :P ? Like why would you pay 50000 dollars to study archaeology at a university that just uses that money to get expensive facilities like an indoor snowboard area when you could have just spent money on an education that actually leads to a well paying job that you like or are okay doing and then spend your free time and excess money learning about archaeology? I have multiple friends who studied something that realistically had little to no job market and now they are all working ICT support... again its been said before do something that can help you financially first and follow your passion in your own time or use your minor for that. Nowadays so much information is readily and freely available that if you want to learn something you honestly can... its gonna cost you time and effort and you'll likely have a harder time starting out but honestly if you have a passion for learning it it will go by easier. Also, this part surprises me about US students.... given the high college costs... why not just study abroad XD ? I mean its likely way cheaper and more fun being in a different culture and a lot of education is in english so its not like you'd have to learn a language for it :P?
Do you need a college degree to be happy ? That question is wrong. It should be do you need a college degress to be successful in life. Happiness is not form things like a college degree , a girlfriend , money or things. Even your are successful can you be happy ? Not really why think about it look it up. Happiness from you and how you choose to do with your life. It also a mindset and the ability to achieve success of something on your own.
Weird: you guys notice that the only happy ones with no degree are only influencers? They failed their school and influencing more kids to do the same was the only option.
My only issue with university is in the way it delivers its education. As a student, I prefer notes and slides rather than expensive textbooks. I would rather study them or even have prerecorded lessons of the topic, and then schedule a time in the day with the professor to clarify when I don't understand something. I would even go as far as saying that exams should be eliminated, in favour of weekly short tests, or just assignments that tally up to your final score over the semester. I just really despise the standadised approach of learning and assessments in university as it forces one into a ball of nerves anytime an exam is coming. I hate the stress! Understand, I am doing freelance work for clients on something that I like and I'm alway overperforming, trying to improve and trying to give my clients the best value they can get, and this is hard and stressful work, but I enjoy it and am always hungry for more! Compare that to me having to "study" the work that I'm already doing, and not having the freedom to innovate as I have to memorise outdated practises by some guy in the 50s, and if I don't and I fail and drop out, I would "statistically earn less than a graduate with a bachelor's degree", and don't forget disappointing your parents that invested so much into your education over the years...talk about a life threatening ultimatum!
For me it depends on the college degree. If it's necessary for a career that you want to pursue then go for it. If you are unsure about your career I would start working right out of high school and explore other possibilities. And if you do go to college and it's not for you it's ok. It's not for everyone I know successful and unsuccessful people regardless if they have a college degree or not. I do agree that colleges do need to adapt and change the way they prepare students for a post college future. I'm grateful that my college did prepare me for post college life. That's not the case for everyone unfortunately. The current college system definitely needs to be re-evaluated. As my grandma has told me if the career you have isn't fun anymore don't do it. Having a career that gives you joy will bring you happiness and a sense of fulfillment.
@Supercollider it definitely puts you in a better position to do that but nowadays you don't need a college degree to have good jobs. For example if you have a laptop and good taste, just learn figma (which is free) online, do some case studies and free designs for some companies and you'll get a job without any college degree
Short answer, depends on what you want to do for a living. Degrees are not for "feeling good". They aren't for fun. And they aren't for establishing some sense of intellectual dominance over others. They are for qualifying you for a profession you want to do that will give you a sense of accomplishment and/or happiness. I'm a programmer for a bank and i love it. But i had to have a Bachelors degree at minimum. You're crazy If you think a bank would trust someone who only has a programming boot camp certificate or a 9 month programming training program certificate to make programs that handle millions of dollars. Unless that person has 10+ years of related job experience to go along with that certificate.
I think personally, you want to aim to your own desire 'success' based on what you want to success, cause 'success' is a subjective, it's different for literally everyone in this world. Go and take the path of what you want to successful, if you want to take big and deep studies go for college and if you have other ways to find your own success, then degree is not necessary, take this on me because i haven't yet gotten my own success in life, and I haven't gone to any university yet. But i plan on going one soon i think
Look at the number of people that either don't finish their degree, can't find a job with their degree, or are working in a field unrelated to their degree before you decide to listen to the people so willing to take your money, and years of your life. There are some fields that do require a degree, but there are plenty of paths to success that don't involve being in sports or entertainment.
Actually ireland does pay for uni however, most people apply to this thing called student universal support Ireland.most people will qualify for the full or half of the tuition fee which is a flat rate of 3k in euro for all public schools yp to a level 8 bachelors degree ( honours bachelor degree).
@Ne Ws, 35,000 doesn't sound like much debt until it's time to pay it back. Then it's a different ballgame. You add in living expenses and family bills and it's not easily paid back. In the old days debt like this would not have been a problem since most grads had a good job directly out of college. However that's not the case any more. Most grads today find it extremely difficult to find a good job in their major. Besides that lack of a degree is rarely if ever a reason people miss a promotion. Yes it might be an issue once in a blue moon but it's rare. Look, I'm all for education as I have a college degree myself but all the education in the world means nothing if you don't use that education. That's the real problem with education. Costs are out of control but the biggest problem is no real return on investment. Most grads today work in jobs that have nothing to do with the major. So regardless of student loans or not, students are not getting their money's worth because the system is broken. No connection between the schools and employers. All that time and money in school for what? To major in business and work for minimum wage serving coffee? That's the new reality for most grads. No rerurn on investment. That's why student loans are a scam and no longer worth the risk. College used to be a great investment but not anymore. Again I'm a big fan of college, the way it used to be 20+ years ago before automation and outsourcing killed so many American jobs and back then the debt was worth it because you knew you had a good job waiting for you as soon as you graduated from college. That really doesn't happen much any more. Grads struggle too much to find jobs and that's why I think the debt is no longer worth it. If you can pay cash for school, that's different cause you might be ok. Otherwise student loans are a sure fire way to go broke.
@Ne Ws, I'm all for education. Like I said before but not if it means to borrow for it. No way, not any more. If you can pay cash, go for it. The debt mentality is why we have the student loan mess of 1.7 trillion in student loan debt. Everyone thinks it'll be easy to pay off. It's not easy to pay off, if it was we wouldn't have 1.7 trillion in debt. In the ideal world it would be easy to pay off cause that education would pay off. That's not reality. Personally I think the schools are more to blame for this mess than anything else. They raise tuition so high no one can pay for it and then blame the students for not attending college or going broke from all the debt. The schools make billions while giving no promise of a good job to the student, no guarantee of any kind. Schools have no accountability. To me that's the root problem, the schools. If tuition was affordable and students had a reasonable deal of job placement from the schools to give the students a fair chance, that would be different. However that's not reality. The fact is there's no justification for these schools to raise tuition to such extreme levels at the expense of the student. It's wrong. College should be affordable, it's not. We all know it's not. It's nothing but pure greed. You have to remember, college is a business. They only care about profits, that's it. It's all about profits. They don't care about students, if they did care tuition would be affordable. The whole system of education is designed around profits at any price. We all know tuition could be much cheaper and afford but it's not affordable for anyone. Why you think they do that? GREED.
It is not necessary a college degree to make happy but it could be a bridge for building wealth and avoid difficult in the journey specially if you are thinking about having children in a future but it depends on a marketable degree to build a successful business.
Blue collar work is a much better idea. Master a trade, work for yourself or join the union. Your job won't get shipped to India and a computer can't do it. Make $60K a year. Save 50% of your income for 20 years and retire before 40. Unless you go to school for a hard science or nursing, college is a bad idea. Car salesmen and bartenders make $80K a year in major cities. Don't listen to baby boomer advice about college, the world is much different than the 80s and 90s. You need real skills to do most white collar jobs and most college programs don't teach you real skills.
For every successful entertainer, business person, athlete, there are countless people who tried to be like them and are not financially well off. Lots are in poverty with more working days behind them than ahead of them.
I have a college degree and I work in corporate america with a well paying job straight out of school. I also make youtube videos on the side and this side hustle gives me more happiness than my degree. I will say my degree gave me the opportunity to earn more, and fuel my financial peace journey, which will also make me happier. I'd say it depends, there are many factors to answering this question.
A mechanic or technician job can earn $24/hr. Aviation, more. Electrician and welder make a lot, too. However, the community of colleagues who can affect second-half of life is different.
If you look for happiness then it’s no you can be happy with $12hr jobs but if you want be one of the educated person what gives your better dignity then you have to have college degree even a professional degree is needed those give you better financial support to in order to live better!
Imagine you'd be going to a profession based on market demands of today and when you graduate there is suddenly no market for it anymore, this is what many young people are struggling adults who thinks they're arrogance can cover up their way ignorance of uncertainty thus scamming younger people in doing things they were told to do.
You will thank yourself for going, trust me. Do not delude yourself into thinking college is a "scam" like these other people. Deep down these people wish they had gone to college, but they are trying to cope by making others think that not going to college is a good decision.
Happiness has no relation with the level of education. Many people are illiterate but happy because to some extent money can bring some happiness and those illiterate have millions to spend but in context of a poor or below average person, degree can really help him/her achieve happiness by getting job, securing future, and ability and polish skills that make him worth millions.
My wife and I are both engineers and its lifted us both out of generational poverty. We recently got out of some debts and our happiness level has gone way up. Now its all going to savings and the mortgage. Couldn't be more content and happy right now.
Just a degree won't get you happiness but financial freedom will. For many a *useful* degree can really jumpstart a career in a high paying field and the sky can be the limit.
What if some day all degrees will be wanished and nobody will have one?
So everyone will have same chances to succeed, but with no effort.
@@Acid31337 no effort to succeed? Even if degrees weren't a thing the cream will rise to the top. The people who work smarter not harder will soon be at the top of society while people who want to do the bare minimum will stick to menial labor.
Some people will always value their free time more than they do advancing their position or wealth in life. Nothing morally wrong with that. Just don't get upset when people who have more talent or want to put in the time end up being the boss.
Financial freedom without a goal won't make you happy. Look at all those ultrarich stars who end up dying of drug abuse. Money without purpose is surviving, not living.
@@mrknarf4438 those are stars which have 0 financial knowledge
If we are talking about happiness then the answer is 100% no.
If the question is about likelihood of financial success, the answer is the odds are far greater with a college degree.
Not really
Both of my parents have masters degrees and are severely underemployed.
Syn Cty have you ever heard the term “anecdotal evidence”?
It is a fact that college graduates on average earn more than those without a college degree.
Happiness and financial success aren’t mutually exclusive though
Pmoose Travern I disagree. There is no factual evidence that shows this.
Absolutely Not. But when jobs paying $11 an hour require a college degree it tells you 1 of 2 things: Either kids are less prepared out of high school and now college is needed as a "filter" or college has become worthless
This comment here 🔥🔥.
College is just getting more and more useless, I guess. Back then, (wasn’t even ‘back then’ more so like a couple years ago) for a CRNA you just needed to do your bachelors in nursing, get some experience being a nurse, and go to and finish a nurse anesthetist program and you’re good. Now more and more employers are demanding you get a masters in nursing/anesthesiology.
Ne Ws It’s getting more and more useless as times goes on for some majors you can just get your bachelors and start a career. It’s like there’s so many people that have a BS in this or that, to the point where if they want a job they can’t just gets BS they may have to get a Masters/PhD
Ne Ws What I meant by useless is that it’s decreasing in value. But I guess you could also say that it’s *now* required to get a BS.
I seen a secretary job requiring a bachelor degree. The bar for education will be rising in the future.
"I never let formal schooling get in the way of my education". Mark Twain.
Near the end of 2019, at the age of 27, I was only making a few dollars above minimum wage in Southern California. I finally decided to do some research on what careers were in demand and paid well. I picked Computer Science since that was the one that interested me the most. I debated returning to college, but I worked during the day full time and didn't have the money to quit or take less hours. Then I just taught myself web development with TH-cam and Udemy. Studied and coded 4-6 hours a day, 7 days a week. After a little over a year, I landed a web development job making $75K. Zero loans to pay for.
"Lebron James didn't go to College" Yeah sure... just go be Lebron James then and be rich.
The question itself is inherently flawed. You don't need a college degree to be: smarter, richer, happier. The "need" in the question itself creates a biased absolute where all you need is one example in a million to reach the verdict you don't need. The more interesting (and relevant) question is if it helps, or if the average person benefits more from it. You hear of Bill Gates as a drop out sure, but you probably don't hear of the thousands of John Doe's who just end with minimum wage jobs instead. Where are all the unemployed people with criminal records that dropped out in this interview? That is right, you don't hear of them. Nobody cares about them, the reporters themselves also prove that point by just going after those that are successful instead of bothering to show those that failed. Rather ask if people with college degrees in average benefit more from it. Also consider studying abroad, that is what many people abroad already do. Americans should consider that especially since they are the most expensive in the world.
But they did not mention those athletes who got broke. Because they dont want it to be in the news. Shaquille O'Neil is one of the biggest example that College Degree is a must. He even told his children that they need to present a college degree before they can have a part of the inheritance. Because Shaq is a really smart guy he always ask for financial advice. Unlike other NBA and other american professional athletes and celebrities after they have no more contract project offers endorsement gigs side hussle or whatever you call it some of them literally end up in thr streets. Like Allen Iverson if not for his endorsement deal he will become bankrupt. He buys every luxury imaginable. High paying jobs need a college degree not unless you are a celebrity or really gifted athlete. Look how big the salaries of those university professors. Look at the current CEO of Apple, Microsoft and Google most of them have not only college but a Masters Degree. Microsoft, Apple, Tesla Motors other big companies started by a college dropouts or no college degree. But most CEO like Intel, IBM, AMD hire engineers, accountants, business managers and other college degree holders. Because they need those highly skilled professionals to run their corporations
The only piece of paper that ever made me extremely happy, was the 5th grade love note I got from my crush! Having to check the box that said I liked her too was pretty thrilling, much more than swiping right
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isnt 5th grade too young to have a crush?
@@Kpop_stole_foids_fromcurrycell no, who said that?
Five words: correlation does not equal causation
Just learned this in one of my classes!
It may be that a few university graduates are earning beaucoup bucks, skewing their _average_ income upwards. Many trades people earn good money, more so than graduates at the lower end of the pay scale
STATA & econometrics students agree XD
@@casper-z9rkls6gl perhaps this is because I'm Canadian but I'd consider a Journeyman Tradseperson college educated as they do need to do schooling at a (community) college, or other tertiary education institute to get their certification. In Canada most "Four year bachelors degrees" are issued by universities.
Kids need to research what professions are in demand and valuable in the market place. Too many people go to school for potato decorating and jump rope, then complain that theyre in debt and underpaid.
Very well said 😂
But potato decorating is my passion. They told me to follow my passion though
People should be allowed to do what they want with their time and their money. If that's potatoe decorating that thats what its going to be for them. Most people usually never get jobs in what they went to school for in the first place. And people shouldn't have to take up a major they are not interested in just because its what "hot" at the moment. Worry about yourself!
Melanie T. Williams federally insured student loans are insured by tax payers. If potato masters default, guess who is on the hook for their passion. There is nothing wrong with doing whatever you want as long as you got the money to pay for it. Going into debt that people may never pay off is folly.
I’m in debt and underpaid my degree is in Public Health not even coronavirus can change that.
I never went to college and am considered lower middle class when it comes to financial standing. And I’ve never been happier! Money is a tool but not everything. I live a simple life and am happy this way, debt free yet far from rich.
What do you do?
Poor
Cope harder
I think anyone who doesn’t come from financially privileged families should start at a community college, and then transfer.
@Ne Ws regular college was full of losers I roomed with a guy who failed 3 semesters in a row parents paid for everything straight bum
@Emerald Anastasia ivy league cost sometimes 3times as amount as a regular state school example I had a guy in high school go to yale an study sociology not a bad degree but way to much for the return amount now I know a guy who went to the university of Colorado Springs an just finished his masters only has 15k worth of debt who smarter in your opinion?
@Ne Ws the drop out rate is actually the same my guy I mean I went to a univeristy who had a 39% graduation rate an thats pretty average for a lot of what you people consider NCAA division 2 schools it just boils down to person I see more people who worked from associates to bachelor's be in less debt an more hungry driven then guy who went an got his straight bachelor's but I'm military its a differnet world.
@Emerald Anastasia sorry that your experience my story opposite whenim graduated my family was considered middle class based they don't count military extra pay into yearly income on top of my dad deployed a lot during my college years so they went off my mother teaching income so my aid paid for my whole associates degree an most of bachelor's in the end I only owed 8k compared to others. Ivy League's man some are generous I'll give you that I had a couple students in my class 2015 get into ivy league an there debt is like crippling I'm proud of your sister for for getting stem mines in physical education an I want to go back an finish a masters in school adminstration.i can't fathom stem degrees being oversaturated based upon the level grit I takes to finish those disciplines even in the end there income outshines a teacher's income who pays the same amount for the degree an both jobs are needed in society. Nice chat
@Ne Ws im not cherry picking if anyone cherry picking look at yourself you literally said 50% people who go to community college drop out you didn't have no source thats just your straight opinion I show you 2 universities thats have a low graduation rate an said it basically depends on the person whether they want to finish you just spitting opinions at this point. You going to say as long as your around ambitious people you do well ok well there ambitious people at community college as well.
If these people believe this, they should take their children out of college.
The reality, they wouldn't.
My degree didn’t make me happier but making 80k at 22 does
What do you do?
@The Loner Millionaire could be a nurse or healthcare administration
I got a chemE degree, I chose to pursue a 30k stipend for grad school instead of the 80k starting salary. I get more freedom and can indulge my curiosity, so that worked for me. Plus I’ll make the same money when I graduate, but I’ll enjoy my job more.
L.A it’s a shame that healthcare admin gets paid so much. Disgusting. I can understand doctors and nurses.. but administrative bloat is ruining so many industries.
I wouldn't say college is for everyone, but if executed correctly it could be the best decision that you could ever make! Atleast that's how it was for me.
Most people need a college degree to feel safe lol
As a drop-out student, I'm ok but not happy. I struggle finding a good salary job. I'm disappointed for myself. Im not happy because I'm poor.
@Emperorick2 not really. The more you wait to go to college, the harder it is to get in. And many colleges won't accept a dropout since it shows that they cannot handle college.
Most rich people are not happy too, many are satisfied but not happy.
Go to a trade School
Ok so my mom is a medical physicist and she said she could most definitely do her job without the 10 years of college needed to get a PhD (I think it's 10 yrs?) BUT the thing is she wouldn't have gotten the job she has now without the degree.... They hired her because she has the PhD. The company wanted her instead of someone with, say, a masters degree. So to have the financial freedom she does (she makes 6 figures) you normally need a pretty good degree or else get really really fortunate (like youtubers, actors, singers, etc) "money doesn't buy happiness" is total BS. I won't be happy in life being forced to spend my life drowning in debt, with little to no vacation time and a not so nice apartment. Having financial freedom to do all these things in life I want to experience will make me happier and more fulfilled, and it would probably make the majority of the population happy as well. I'm not saying you need 6 figures to be happy: I'm saying being comfortable enough to have a fulfilling life is. So if a fulfilling life for you is working a low paying job, drowning in debt, and staying at home most of the time, then "money doesn't buy happiness" is true for you. For the rest of us, that phrase is utter BS
To have the discussion on college and happiness is unproductive, especially when we are literally talking in the context of a happiness formula (aka, does x lead to happiness)
(1) College is linked with career mobility/options
(2) Happiness is linked to the self-evaluation of your situation (e.g., are you content with where you are?)
So the question shouldn't be "does college makes you happy," but rather do you personally value having a wider career options and/or advancement. If yes, college will definitely make you happy.
Good point.
The entire video is loaded, but since it’s not a 2 way discussion it’s pretty hard to justify an essay in the comments.
They are conflating happiness with a lot of presuppositions that aren’t agreed on, and should be contested.
My job position requires a college degree (specifically engineering) which got me a financial freedom. I live below my means and don’t ever have to worry about not being able to eat and therefore I am happy
People should start college at 20 instead of 18. They should spend two years working full-time or doing something like military service, Peace Corps, or an apprenticeship in a trade skill before going to college. This would lead a lot of people to a more fulfilled life and less drop out rates. Also, the govt should force colleges to eliminate degrees which have little financial promise such as liberal arts. They should also limit admissions to humanities related degrees. These degrees are not highly in demand and result in a lot of people being unable to repay their student loans afterwards.
It saddens me that more and more jobs require a college degree, while college teaches you extremely little that's actually valuable for the job. In this sense, it's useless, so I wish jobs didn't require a college degree, but they do regardless. I didn't enjoy college at all and wish there was a better way of investing years of your life into something more valuable
Yeah, it’s cause colleges just want to make money by over educating
There is, you have to think out of the box
Jack Smith I feel like when people make that statement it’s very… In a bubble LOL colleges exist outside of this country where this is definitely not the case.
Working for myself has provided more happiness than finishing a degree to work for a company that only values my results. I'm happy I attended college for a while and now that I'm comfortable enough financially I could consider going back for a couple semesters to finish my degree. Maybe I will, maybe I won't.
The "Good job" thing is so out of wack. I make quite a bit more than those numbers and still want more. Living is not cheap.
I only feel "happy" about my degrees when I talk to friends who don't have them and see how dissatisfied they are w/ their lives & how relatively satisfied w/mine. I then realize it's not really the degrees that make me happy---it's just my circumstances that are actually pretty great, and that's what really makes me happy. When I rejected a job for $45/hr because I knew I deserved at least $65, I realized how valuable my degrees are.
Absolutely the answer is NO!!, We don’t need college degree or papers to have a value as people. Knowledge is free. “You can find people(young and old) on internet teaching better than a paid teacher(parasite).
_College isn’t correlated to happiness_ 😤
If people enjoy being educated then college will make you happy and you don’t even need to got to college to be educated, but if people are going to college to make money theirs other paths in life for money
But college isn’t the only option to get you educated while saving you from tons of debt. School system in America has turned into a business more than focus on getting people educated
@Waterkun College is the best and most efficient option to getting an education, you cant argue against that. If you go to college and major in something useful and in-demand, it will definitely be worth it
@@jacksmith1957 People confuse satisfaction of life achievements and happiness in life. Happens often in consumeristic societies.
Better question is: do you need college to be financially stable/independent? Is it worth it/advantageous having at least a Bachelor’s degree in order to eventually pay off student debt? Whether you need it for happiness, you absolutely don’t need a college degree to be happy
ah yes I got my comp sci degree from a good college and I am working as a data scientist under a dropout.
Without a degree, he won't have much space to improve and grow. pretty soon he WILL need a degree. most jobs in the CS field don't accept people without a degree. He is just one of the lucky ones
@@theendurance wtf? Most of the point of a degree is get your foot in the door.
That dudes already employing people.
@@thedog5k he's right, most jobs won't employ people without degrees. HR and the ATS system drops applications without degrees regardless of skill and experience
Happiness from a college degree depends on the college you attend, the resources that are provided, the major / study you pursue, the community / network, and the cost.
Do a cost-to-performance evaluation and see whether you choice (school, major, etc.) leads to both a passion / dream job of yours AND pays well. Look at the job market and demand for the major.
Majors in S.T.E.M. and Business are typically worth it. Great public state schools (Rutgers, UC, Mich, Penn State, etc.) are worth it. This is a sure way to guarantee happiness from a college degree.
If you still think you receive happiness from a degree than you are still really naive in life. Friends, passions, hobbies, travel, genuine relationships, nature, all have higher impact on happiness than a college degree from any university.
Simply ask those who already had their degrees and lived for 20 year after their degree how happy they are. Ask honest people for honest answers
Going to college is my biggest regret. I'm a server now because I love it and I earn more money than I would with my degree most days. I have less freedom because I'm working on paying my student loans off versus if I never went to college. Plus, I hated the act of college with the tests, projects, and homework. I spend most of me free time these days educating myself which I should have done in the first place.
You gotta go back and finish that degree
@@sp123 lol the degree was completed back in 2011
Just graduated college but regret it so much. Now I have to wait for my trade school application to go through so I can actually start a real career. Should've started that immediately after high school. Better late than never, I suppose
What did you major in and what degree did you go for?
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i think skill education is important like learning how to do a marketable skill but that doesn't always mean you need to go to a traditional 4 year college in order to gain these skills. in fact lots of college degrees don't actually prepare you for a real job after you graduate and you're left with little options outside of the cycle of going back to school again and again to gain marketable skills
"need" a degree is relative to how hard someone wants to work. my boyfriend and father both make over well 100k a year with no degree. my boyfriend started as a painter and is now sandblasting foreman. he worked and continues to work hard so we can have a good life. if you want to sit in a cubicle then yes spend 50k on a degree and make 35 a year and be miserable. thats your choice its not the only option
In tech, people in the cubicle make 175 to 250k a year on average not 35K.
@@THEREALZENFORCE some make 175k
I'm thinking about dropping out in my last semester. I am getting a business degree and am waking up to how much time and money I've wasted. If I could do it again I would have done community college.
If you're already in debt, finish the degree so you have something to show for it
Having a degree/certification/license will give you confidence and an ability to hold your own in different scenarios/situations! No doubt about it
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No it mostly gives you a job, people will still be as bad in repairing the engine of their car, their heat pumps, doing IRS papers, etc if they do not learn those skills over time in their daily lives.
I don’t think education or money can buy happiness. But I think it helps. College is also a time to grow up from a child to young adult. Fly the coop. Mature a little. I learned so much in college not only educationally but about myself. Plus now I have a degree that I can put on my resume for a lifetime. When choosing between candidates a lot of times the college diploma holder will advance before a high school diploma.
At the same time, international students are willing to pay triple in a 4-year institution without concerning happiness
Most of them are only children or have financially well off parents and most ar looking outside of america nowadays.
Because they want to immigrate and live in the US permanently
@@theendurance Actually no they're is just a preistiege associated with American university that can be actually found anywhere.
Unfortunately most jobs nowadays don’t require degrees they require experience.
Having a college degree may not necessarily make graduates happy . . . but not having one seems to make a few/some people facing economic and social hardship more prone to "deaths of despair", due to alcoholism, comfort junk food, drugs, suicide. University educated people are more likely to seek professional counseling, meeting with friends, exercise, walk in the woods, spas, yoga, meditation, persistence, self-help books, seminars.
I went to college pursuing a b.a. but the stress of college was way too much for me. I just could not cope. I couldn't make friends no matter how many school events I went to, or clubs I signed up for. I went to a big state school and I just couldn't find my place. I was also totally overwhelmed by the schoolwork, commuting, holding a part-time job, renting an apartment and being responsible for all my own bills for the first time in my life, and I got engaged that year and started thinking about wedding planning which yes was a happy event but honestly the proposal came as quite a shock and I wanted to slow down the engagement but anybody who has ever gotten engaged knows that is not always so easy to do once the engagement becomes public knowledge. It got to the point where I was having panic attacks daily and was crying in class all the time because I was so stressed. I left my junior year. I feel so depressed about giving up but I really don't know what else I could have done. My mental health was really, really poor. After leaving college things really didn't improve though. I am still totally depressed about the whole experience. It feels like it was a huge waste of money. College only pays off if you FINISH- that's what they don't tell you!
What you doing know
It’s either you get a college degree or you become an entrepreneur. This video shows the value of a college degree outside of an education and it explains if you don’t get a college degree you better have a business idea or your life will be trash. I completely agree!
Facts
Not true
@@blacklyfe5543 Yup. All you really need is a valuable skill and/or good communication/networking skills.
That is complete nonsense.
You need discernable skills that translate well.
Aircraft mechanics get paid six figures with zero college.
@@lurker993 because they are destroying their joints and exposing themselves to harmful chemicals in her fuel. A degree in the right subject can earn the same amount without the harm on their bodies
Not as many interviewers on here who wished they would have gone to college. Lets look at their lives. People with a college degree make much money over the course of their lives. Money doesn't equal happiness, but its important "tool" that you need. Remember nothing is free, and financial freedom is happiness in a sense to do whatever/whenever you want.
Never went to college. Have a GED, but at 19 I started investing 75 bucks a week 300 a month like clock work. At 24 I stepped it up to 500 per month in mutual funds. I'm 41 now and have never missed a month of investing since I was 19. Even in downturns 500 per month automatically invested. I have no financial worries
The real question is what do you do for a living that you can put 500 a month in a retirement fund you can't touch until retirement?
@sp123 Im a plumber. It's really not hard to save 125.00 bucks a week unless you overspend or try, and by flashy things, you dont need.
Honestly, I would go to college, but I just simply can’t stomach fact that the debt is beyond sense. To me, it’s not worth it due to the amount, and that most of the countries have free education, except for us here in USA most of the countries have universal healthcare. Canada has universal healthcare. Not us here in USA.
My girl work needed her degree from
her last week and I was worried about her loosing her job 😴 but everything good now only because of deelscafe good work 👍.
@Bitrus Sabo same here
I was looking for a college degree and then I got one and heaven knows I'm miserable now! Why do I give valuable time....
To colleges that don't care if I live or die
I think we can all agree that a college degree is not the one variable for happiness. Higher educational attainment does offer different types of opportunities though. I think the most important point here is that the decision to go to college or not should be one that an individual makes, not one that is made for them because they are not adequately prepared by their high school education.
That's why you don't go to a private college. There are plenty of public schools that will give you just as much opportunity.
Let me tell you something. The education are undergoing inflation just like economy. As time passes more and more education are required, nonetheless the jobs are becoming more worthless. Might as well drop out and start something small and get a job that technically can do well with your personality. You would he surprised how alot of jobs are available in America without a degree. Better to start early than starting later with a worthless degree.
You don't have to get a degree to be happy. As long as you can make it work financially then you should be fine and if you actually like or love your job, you should be happy.
Depends on the career. If you gonna be a civil engineer or a RN then yes. If you wanna be a web developer or digital marketing then probably not.
Same with trades. Depends on your field. Do your research on the field you trying to go into.
The lack of one limited my career goals. The higher educated you are then the longer you can work. You can only do a physical job for so long before you have to move it to the mental. Which means if you have a master's then you can teach or do more of a managerial job.
The problem is that many young ppl are going to college, just to go to college. Thinking it is the end-all be-all.
As a high school teacher, I tell my students to research the job/career they want to pursue, and to go to college for that specific degree if the job requires it.
Otherwise I tell them not to go to college.
It really depends on the career path you choose. If you want to become a doctor, you can't do it without a college degree. But you don't really need a college degree to start a business.
you also have to be talented, it's nothing to do with not going to college
all those successful college drop outs you see as the icons for "you don't need college" got accepted to schools with 1-8% acceptance rates so they were already smart to begin with
you don't need to go to college to be successful, yes, but it's a great stepping stone if you have no idea what to do or need peers to push you for a career path. you're never going to be a doctor or an architect without college.
I have a lot of options about this topic. I’m an education advocate. Nevertheless, college is not one size fits all. Unless a person is very smart and has an entrepreneurial spirit, the average person should earn a degree. However, it depends on what you study and what you plan to do with the degree. A degree will not make you “happy”, “rich” or even “smart”. But I think most people should pursue a degree, especially BIPOC. Cost is definitely a factor to consider. I think it’s better to earn a degree while you’re young. But a lot of people go the non-traditional route, and go back to school when they’re older.
Stay in college and go for something in demand. Don’t go for your passion unless your passion is a stem. You get financial foundations then you can do a hobby.
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You should make a video on why dropouts tend to be more successful in real life than most graduates
Soooo facts. And I have a strong plan that lies ahead of time for me to be financially success as I am a dropout. Working full time for a yesr and a half.
J R Where is the evidence that supports this
@@Michael-lp9bg I certainly don't mean that graduates don't become successful too, but just look at history, John D Rockefeller, not graduated, richest man ever to live in USA, Henry Ford, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Sir Richard Branson, Michael S Dell, all not graduated, even Mark Zuckerberg, graduated after building Facebook, these are just some I'm familiar with in the industry I'm interested in, and I'm sure examples like these are in every possible Industry
J R Sure there are many very successful people that dropped out, but I’m not sure that all dropouts tend to be more successful. I would have to see statistics. The only dropouts we ever hear about are the ones who became successful, but I’d bet there are many we don’t hear about that ended up differently.
@@Michael-lp9bg Michael let me fill you in for real and relative facts in case for your delusional thinking. There are many people who adheres to degrees without ever thinking what they want to do with their lives. Majority of graduates aren't successful because they don't think outside of the box to be one. Moreover, more and more people drop out of high school to do TH-cam, media influencer and makes good money. Which is wayy much faster than living out schooling for 4+ years including graduate degree. Nowadays, you should read articles on why degrees aren't worth they should be in 2020.
Theres a dropout and then a billionaire
Nobody knows what happened in the middle
No one likes to admit that all these "dropout" millionaires and billionaires dropped out from TOP schools. They had brilliant unique ideas that most dropouts don't have.
Glomo or the fact that Bill Gates says more people should go to college.
In Africa a degree is equivalent to be baptized with gold dust, so yes college is important here.
6:54 how is 789 80% less than 1416?
Beatriz Santos thank you!
Unfortunately that's the lack of mathematical literacy skills. It's either 1) high school graduates earn 45% less than university educated people, or 2) university educated people earn 80% more than high school graduates.
College certainly wasn't for me. I have a deep hatred for academic environments. I ultimately educated myself and started my own business.
I'm going through the same thing. What business you have? I have a Twin Flames business.
Germany also doesn't charge national students for public higher education. Same goes for most international students...
But you need to pass exams to get in, plus they still have some industry left for people to work in
I just graduated from college and I feel extra broke lol
@Fajitahmed Going back for grad school but majority of my friends are having trouble finding jobs. Most are probably going back for a Master's, the rest.... I just wish them good luck.
Lmfao good luck getting out of debt while I brought 3 properties as I am 24 :)
@@hojaeyun6747 no one cares
@@mikesoftner5833 lmfao of course kids like you say that cause you don't know the importance of how reality works :) stay stuck inside your old paper certificate under a rock.
@@hojaeyun6747 i dropped school and make my own money. No one cares about your real estate dude. Good for you but no one cares.
Attn: Gen Z
College degrees are the number one source of Millenials' unhappiness.
Depends on which major. Art, music, history, psychology, etc? You'll most likely end up with 100K in debt while working at Starbucks. Medicide, engineering, law, business, STEM? No one that majored in those areas are complaining about college
I went to college, one of my brothers became a car mechanic and was certified while on the job and working with tests paid for by his employer. Guess who makes more money. He does, he got started in the professional career three years earlier and has more experience. Plus he did not take on many upfront expenses to do so, although he did have to buy his own tools and tool cabinet.
If he runs his own business it doesn't count. People get degrees to be higher paid employees
@@sp123 He worked for a Lexus dealer. It was not his own business and he got trained on the job.
Short answer : no
Long answer: depends what you want to do , whether the degree is needed, whether you actually enjoy the thing you wanted to do in the first place and if the thing you want to do is a sustainable way of living. example: if you've always wanted to become a scientist you'll likely need to get your bachelors, masters and PhD and it probably pays okay enough either in academia or in industry that you can live off of this passion of yours ( It pays okay in the Netherlands at least I doubt this is the case in the US though :P ).
To the people who think you should just study whatever you feel like and incur debt to do so ... like wtf are you thinking :P ?
Like why would you pay 50000 dollars to study archaeology at a university that just uses that money to get expensive facilities like an indoor snowboard area when you could have just spent money on an education that actually leads to a well paying job that you like or are okay doing and then spend your free time and excess money learning about archaeology? I have multiple friends who studied something that realistically had little to no job market and now they are all working ICT support... again its been said before do something that can help you financially first and follow your passion in your own time or use your minor for that.
Nowadays so much information is readily and freely available that if you want to learn something you honestly can... its gonna cost you time and effort and you'll likely have a harder time starting out but honestly if you have a passion for learning it it will go by easier.
Also, this part surprises me about US students.... given the high college costs... why not just study abroad XD ?
I mean its likely way cheaper and more fun being in a different culture and a lot of education is in english so its not like you'd have to learn a language for it :P?
Do you need a college degree to be happy ? That question is wrong. It should be do you need a college degress to be successful in life.
Happiness is not form things like a college degree , a girlfriend , money or things.
Even your are successful can you be happy ? Not really why think about it look it up.
Happiness from you and how you choose to do with your life.
It also a mindset and the ability to achieve success of something on your own.
Weird: you guys notice that the only happy ones with no degree are only influencers? They failed their school and influencing more kids to do the same was the only option.
My only issue with university is in the way it delivers its education. As a student, I prefer notes and slides rather than expensive textbooks. I would rather study them or even have prerecorded lessons of the topic, and then schedule a time in the day with the professor to clarify when I don't understand something.
I would even go as far as saying that exams should be eliminated, in favour of weekly short tests, or just assignments that tally up to your final score over the semester.
I just really despise the standadised approach of learning and assessments in university as it forces one into a ball of nerves anytime an exam is coming. I hate the stress!
Understand, I am doing freelance work for clients on something that I like and I'm alway overperforming, trying to improve and trying to give my clients the best value they can get, and this is hard and stressful work, but I enjoy it and am always hungry for more!
Compare that to me having to "study" the work that I'm already doing, and not having the freedom to innovate as I have to memorise outdated practises by some guy in the 50s, and if I don't and I fail and drop out, I would "statistically earn less than a graduate with a bachelor's degree", and don't forget disappointing your parents that invested so much into your education over the years...talk about a life threatening ultimatum!
@Ne Ws
I'm starting to believe that too. It's the only way their actions make sense.
Tradegy: dropout with student loans; disaster: dropout from medical school with student loans at 30+
aah happiness : the thing which every one is after and no one knows what exactly it is, even when they find it. keep looking though
For me it depends on the college degree. If it's necessary for a career that you want to pursue then go for it. If you are unsure about your career I would start working right out of high school and explore other possibilities. And if you do go to college and it's not for you it's ok. It's not for everyone I know successful and unsuccessful people regardless if they have a college degree or not. I do agree that colleges do need to adapt and change the way they prepare students for a post college future. I'm grateful that my college did prepare me for post college life. That's not the case for everyone unfortunately. The current college system definitely needs to be re-evaluated. As my grandma has told me if the career you have isn't fun anymore don't do it. Having a career that gives you joy will bring you happiness and a sense of fulfillment.
Blame Ronald Reagan for the high cost of higher education.
I'm predicting 2U and online learning will stop all of this inflated tuition madness.
It depends on what happiness is for you. College is mostly a big networking source and if you take that out it definitely leaves a lot to wonder
@Supercollider it definitely puts you in a better position to do that but nowadays you don't need a college degree to have good jobs. For example if you have a laptop and good taste, just learn figma (which is free) online, do some case studies and free designs for some companies and you'll get a job without any college degree
Good documentary, but please DO NOT use LATINX to describe us Latinos.
We ain't OECD but Botswana public college and varsity schools for nationals are sort of tax funded
TH-cam
USA = The world
Short answer, depends on what you want to do for a living. Degrees are not for "feeling good". They aren't for fun. And they aren't for establishing some sense of intellectual dominance over others. They are for qualifying you for a profession you want to do that will give you a sense of accomplishment and/or happiness. I'm a programmer for a bank and i love it. But i had to have a Bachelors degree at minimum. You're crazy If you think a bank would trust someone who only has a programming boot camp certificate or a 9 month programming training program certificate to make programs that handle millions of dollars. Unless that person has 10+ years of related job experience to go along with that certificate.
I think personally, you want to aim to your own desire 'success' based on what you want to success, cause 'success' is a subjective, it's different for literally everyone in this world. Go and take the path of what you want to successful, if you want to take big and deep studies go for college and if you have other ways to find your own success, then degree is not necessary,
take this on me because i haven't yet gotten my own success in life, and I haven't gone to any university yet. But i plan on going one soon i think
It's flawed questioning. People don't get degrees to be happy. It's a requirement for better future prospects. Happiness is an isolated event.
Depends on where you are. In the third world a degree can make you happy
Look at the number of people that either don't finish their degree, can't find a job with their degree, or are working in a field unrelated to their degree before you decide to listen to the people so willing to take your money, and years of your life. There are some fields that do require a degree, but there are plenty of paths to success that don't involve being in sports or entertainment.
Actually ireland does pay for uni however, most people apply to this thing called student universal support Ireland.most people will qualify for the full or half of the tuition fee which is a flat rate of 3k in euro for all public schools yp to a level 8 bachelors degree ( honours bachelor degree).
Debt free living will get you more satisfaction in life than any college pedigree.
@Ne Ws, 35,000 doesn't sound like much debt until it's time to pay it back. Then it's a different ballgame. You add in living expenses and family bills and it's not easily paid back. In the old days debt like this would not have been a problem since most grads had a good job directly out of college. However that's not the case any more. Most grads today find it extremely difficult to find a good job in their major. Besides that lack of a degree is rarely if ever a reason people miss a promotion. Yes it might be an issue once in a blue moon but it's rare. Look, I'm all for education as I have a college degree myself but all the education in the world means nothing if you don't use that education. That's the real problem with education. Costs are out of control but the biggest problem is no real return on investment. Most grads today work in jobs that have nothing to do with the major. So regardless of student loans or not, students are not getting their money's worth because the system is broken. No connection between the schools and employers. All that time and money in school for what? To major in business and work for minimum wage serving coffee? That's the new reality for most grads. No rerurn on investment. That's why student loans are a scam and no longer worth the risk. College used to be a great investment but not anymore. Again I'm a big fan of college, the way it used to be 20+ years ago before automation and outsourcing killed so many American jobs and back then the debt was worth it because you knew you had a good job waiting for you as soon as you graduated from college. That really doesn't happen much any more. Grads struggle too much to find jobs and that's why I think the debt is no longer worth it. If you can pay cash for school, that's different cause you might be ok. Otherwise student loans are a sure fire way to go broke.
@Ne Ws, I'm all for education. Like I said before but not if it means to borrow for it. No way, not any more. If you can pay cash, go for it. The debt mentality is why we have the student loan mess of 1.7 trillion in student loan debt. Everyone thinks it'll be easy to pay off. It's not easy to pay off, if it was we wouldn't have 1.7 trillion in debt. In the ideal world it would be easy to pay off cause that education would pay off. That's not reality. Personally I think the schools are more to blame for this mess than anything else. They raise tuition so high no one can pay for it and then blame the students for not attending college or going broke from all the debt. The schools make billions while giving no promise of a good job to the student, no guarantee of any kind. Schools have no accountability. To me that's the root problem, the schools. If tuition was affordable and students had a reasonable deal of job placement from the schools to give the students a fair chance, that would be different. However that's not reality. The fact is there's no justification for these schools to raise tuition to such extreme levels at the expense of the student. It's wrong. College should be affordable, it's not. We all know it's not. It's nothing but pure greed. You have to remember, college is a business. They only care about profits, that's it. It's all about profits. They don't care about students, if they did care tuition would be affordable. The whole system of education is designed around profits at any price. We all know tuition could be much cheaper and afford but it's not affordable for anyone. Why you think they do that? GREED.
It is not necessary a college degree to make happy but it could be a bridge for building wealth and avoid difficult in the journey specially if you are thinking about having children in a future but it depends on a marketable degree to build a successful business.
Who believes that we don’t need a college degree to be happy? 🙋♀️
Blue collar work is a much better idea. Master a trade, work for yourself or join the union. Your job won't get shipped to India and a computer can't do it. Make $60K a year. Save 50% of your income for 20 years and retire before 40. Unless you go to school for a hard science or nursing, college is a bad idea. Car salesmen and bartenders make $80K a year in major cities. Don't listen to baby boomer advice about college, the world is much different than the 80s and 90s. You need real skills to do most white collar jobs and most college programs don't teach you real skills.
For every successful entertainer, business person, athlete, there are countless people who tried to be like them and are not financially well off. Lots are in poverty with more working days behind them than ahead of them.
You want happiness? Travel and see the world not going to college. But if you want to secure a good job yes go to college.
I have a college degree and I work in corporate america with a well paying job straight out of school. I also make youtube videos on the side and this side hustle gives me more happiness than my degree. I will say my degree gave me the opportunity to earn more, and fuel my financial peace journey, which will also make me happier. I'd say it depends, there are many factors to answering this question.
A mechanic or technician job can earn $24/hr. Aviation, more. Electrician and welder make a lot, too.
However, the community of colleagues who can affect second-half of life is different.
Uni made me depressed bruh
If you look for happiness then it’s no you can be happy with $12hr jobs but if you want be one of the educated person what gives your better dignity then you have to have college degree even a professional degree is needed those give you better financial support to in order to live better!
Imagine you'd be going to a profession based on market demands of today and when you graduate there is suddenly no market for it anymore, this is what many young people are struggling adults who thinks they're arrogance can cover up their way ignorance of uncertainty thus scamming younger people in doing things they were told to do.
No, just going there to get depressed and a piece of paper so I can actually get into a decent job
You will thank yourself for going, trust me. Do not delude yourself into thinking college is a "scam" like these other people. Deep down these people wish they had gone to college, but they are trying to cope by making others think that not going to college is a good decision.
Happiness has no relation with the level of education. Many people are illiterate but happy because to some extent money can bring some happiness and those illiterate have millions to spend but in context of a poor or below average person, degree can really help him/her achieve happiness by getting job, securing future, and ability and polish skills that make him worth millions.