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    Ross Perot wasn’t the only one fed up with the two-party system. In the 1990s, Minnesota resident Jesse Ventura joined Perot’s Reform ticket and stunned the American political establishment. It seemed as though the Reform Party had beaten all the odds to become a national political power. But as it turned out, the Reform Party was about to face its most daunting foe yet: the Reform Party.
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  • @ScholarlyHiccup
    @ScholarlyHiccup 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +646

    That 2010-2014 bed is unintentionally one of the funniest things I’ve seen

    • @jamesh7469
      @jamesh7469 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Am i dumb? What am I missing?

    • @mnguyen313
      @mnguyen313 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

      @@jamesh74690:37, Jon is showing off videos that are on the Patreon! Neat! But the graphics remain in our cinematic universe and we bump back into them at 1:39. Behind the inexplicable tile of “Bed 2010-2014” in the foreground, we can see the video we came for is peeking out behind the edges

    • @mastersoftoday
      @mastersoftoday 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@mnguyen313 unbelievable that you figured this out

    • @noinfo1018
      @noinfo1018 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @mnguyen313 I read this in Jon Bois’s voice, lol

  • @princessjellyfish98
    @princessjellyfish98 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +592

    An yes, the triumphant return of my favorite sport: politics

    • @senLuno
      @senLuno 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Lowkey explains why it's only gotten 39k views

    • @princessjellyfish98
      @princessjellyfish98 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

      Oh no, I meant that unironically. Jon Bois could explain concrete to me and I'd be seated

    • @LiteralmenteFadul
      @LiteralmenteFadul 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Its a contact sport

    • @BarackLesnar
      @BarackLesnar 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The ultimate game

    • @redtaileddolphin1875
      @redtaileddolphin1875 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@senLuno I demand a recount

  • @RobSomeone
    @RobSomeone 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1019

    I can't believe you told a story so well that I was so pissed at Ross Perot that I was thinking, 'Oh thank god Trump's here.'

    • @akorn9943
      @akorn9943 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +119

      “Somebody tag in Donald Trump. Please save us Donald Trump.”

    • @janedoe3043
      @janedoe3043 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Trump is the worst human alive in America today.

    • @leetorry
      @leetorry 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Like Joseph Joestar being glad to see the Nazis in Jojo.

    • @Robert_McGarry_Poems
      @Robert_McGarry_Poems 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      The longest spin game in neoliberalism... and just think this all started because Reagan wanted to redefine the word liberal to mean him. Well played...(slow clap) well played.

    • @dogpound9851
      @dogpound9851 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      “Thank god finally someone with some sense”

  • @real_surreal_sir
    @real_surreal_sir 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +710

    As far unions, keep in mind Ventura literally led the attempt to unionize wrestling, almost pulled it off arguably

    • @dweebyllo8615
      @dweebyllo8615 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +155

      If it wasn't for Hogan snitching he would have succeeded too

    • @TMthe33rd
      @TMthe33rd 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

      ​@@dweebyllo8615 and also Vince being the devil that he is

    • @Jackson_the_king66
      @Jackson_the_king66 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TMthe33rdWELCOME BACK TO YOUR DAILY REMIDNER THAN VINCE MCMAHON IS A GHOUL WHO SHOULD ROT

    • @Nessrox444
      @Nessrox444 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      That’s not gonna work for me brother

    • @A2L112
      @A2L112 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      ​@@dweebyllo8615Ofc it was Hogan

  • @techyn8502
    @techyn8502 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +183

    Why did the Reform Party become so prominent? Ross Perot.
    Why did the Reform Party collapse so quickly? Ross Perot.

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And Pat Buchanan as well for the latter.

    • @someasiandude4797
      @someasiandude4797 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@crazyluigi6664 Pat Buchanan would be lightyears away from the party if Ross didn't fling open the door for him

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@someasiandude4797 Aye, fair enough, then.

    • @gapsule2326
      @gapsule2326 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Reform Party become Deformed Party

  • @BB8B8
    @BB8B8 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +457

    I want Jesse Ventura vs Pat Buchanan 1 on 1 in Hell in a Cell

    • @michaelkitchin9665
      @michaelkitchin9665 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      With special guest referee Glenn Jacobs.

    • @BottoBobbs
      @BottoBobbs วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Ventura would twist that little angry man into a pretzel

    • @creoleDJ
      @creoleDJ วันที่ผ่านมา

      And the winner faces THE UNDERTAKAHHH!

  • @averagejoe2798
    @averagejoe2798 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +309

    2014 Bed must be studied in depth while is non patrons wait 34 months for the next series

  • @Tulad_Shorts
    @Tulad_Shorts 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +240

    Has anybody noticed the background yellow getting more or less saturated depending on how the reform party is doing? For example, The colors spark up when Perot gains the lead in the ‘96 election, When he jumps back in, and when Ventura wins the governor election

    • @TheMeanActor
      @TheMeanActor 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Damn! Good catch!

    • @mnguyen313
      @mnguyen313 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      The landscape first turns yellow in part 1 at 13:02, when polling numbers suggest Perot is outperforming expectation

    • @jaywenzel3528
      @jaywenzel3528 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      And at the end of the episode its almost a grey color as the party dies.

    • @aminb9204
      @aminb9204 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      My prediction is that the background turns black in part 3, as Buchanan's candidacy leads to an immeasurably consequential Bush presidency which destroys our climate and budget.
      The butterfly ballot has got to be foreshadowing.

    • @Tulad_Shorts
      @Tulad_Shorts วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheMeanActor Thanks!

  • @philluso
    @philluso 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    "There is a very tight correlation between knowing Pat Buchanan and disliking Pat Buchanan"

  • @rodney7793
    @rodney7793 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +198

    I’d watch Jon Bois read the phone book. He makes anything interesting.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      He’s a great, engaging narrator.

    • @VianoMusicAcademy
      @VianoMusicAcademy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Just needs charts now. And light jazz

    • @exmachinz
      @exmachinz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Yes his Kickoffs video was the first time in my life I ever wanted to learn more about American Football (I am not American)

    • @afropenguin
      @afropenguin 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      You know what, I would watch him read the phone book. Cause I know im probably going to get interesting facts on business, industry's and towns that I had no clue about.

    • @suNn.K.O
      @suNn.K.O 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well. As long as there are charts.

  • @kfilarski
    @kfilarski 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +407

    For those of you who haven’t seen parts 2 and 3 yet… you’re gonna love it. The story only gets better from here.

    • @MrTmac9k
      @MrTmac9k 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      I lived it, watching the news and reading the papers way back when. It's a wild ride.

    • @the.revmira
      @the.revmira 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      way to flex on us poors, KALVIN

    • @willhennessy864
      @willhennessy864 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It really is good, though

    • @tropicarls
      @tropicarls 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There’s gonna be a part three? 😮

    • @kfilarski
      @kfilarski 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tropicarls yup, believe it comes out 1 week after part 2 debuted

  • @slickm7
    @slickm7 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +459

    “Can trump win the presidency, of course not its never gonna happen” its hilarious how that would be a perfectly normal sentence pre 2016

    • @cranapple3367
      @cranapple3367 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

      That seemed like a pretty normal sentence for a lot of 2016, too.
      And now his running mate is the same sort of paleoconservative that he was drafted in to oppose.

    • @36inc
      @36inc 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cranapple3367 all of its relative the older one gets the more the past is relevant cause theres so much of it to see while the futures more dim. this wouldnt happen if we put an age cap im thinking 65 would be appropriate. it would only make sense. too bad well only get this if were lucky a few good apples sneak into high office through a system inherently designed to destroy them. or by riot which is sometimes as effective.

    • @Calz20Videos
      @Calz20Videos 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cranapple3367not even a paleoconservative he’s highkey a straight up Christofascist, you can see all the freaks he hangs out with like Curtis Yarvin

    • @randomjunkohyeah1
      @randomjunkohyeah1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@cranapple3367
      Don’t you mean paleoconsofative?

    • @exmachinz
      @exmachinz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hillary was the only candidate that could have, God willing, been beaten by Donald Trump

  • @cabwaylingo_
    @cabwaylingo_ 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +239

    calling buchanan a "human margin of error" is just the best way to describe the man isn't it

    • @vumasster
      @vumasster 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      man I hope I never give anybody reason to speak on my name the way Jon went in on Pat

    • @janedoe3043
      @janedoe3043 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      No different than Trump at all. It's the same person.

    • @LeonClaesson-x4c
      @LeonClaesson-x4c วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@janedoe3043 Trump has little principles. He is a far-right populist now but there are probabily several parallel universes where he is a radical centrist populist, like he was in 2000.

  • @mickat5350
    @mickat5350 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +304

    heads up to the admins, there's an unrelated clip superimposed over the video at 1:39

    • @justincruz8050
      @justincruz8050 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

      Dude I thought i was going insane

    • @doctorsmiles4530
      @doctorsmiles4530 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Yeah what the hell is that??

    • @Lagoa_real
      @Lagoa_real 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +153

      Gotta know about that 2010-2014 bed

    • @atlassolid5946
      @atlassolid5946 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      yeah, im not sure what happened there lol

    • @Cramhead43
      @Cramhead43 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      avgn futon moment

  • @nahometesfay1112
    @nahometesfay1112 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +206

    Moments I particularly liked
    1) Donald Trump as the reform party's last hope
    2) the animation of a block slapping another block
    3) Ventura's political ads
    4) the reform silly party

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Part of me wished we had the footage of that meeting

    • @janedoe3043
      @janedoe3043 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I would have only like Trump being involved if that was the last time I ever heard his name.

    • @nahometesfay1112
      @nahometesfay1112 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@janedoe3043 It's just very ironic and unexpected.

    • @nahometesfay1112
      @nahometesfay1112 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@fortynights1513 I believe they do have footage Jon couldn't show it because of copyright, but he mentioned that he was able to see it

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nahometesfay1112I wish he could link it somewhere

  • @Subzeropole
    @Subzeropole 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +172

    Breaking out my Jesse Ventura action figure for this one.

    • @1998_MIN
      @1998_MIN 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've seen one in a museum before! He actually came with an athletics uniform from my high school because he was a volunteer coach there!

  • @deputay
    @deputay 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    As someone who was interning on a public affairs show in Minnesota where Jesse guested many times the summer/fall of '98, here's what's important that you left out:
    1) The BIGGEST point - there was now same-day registration for voting. So yes, Ventura dominated the youth vote but think how many were really out because of Jesse and no one/thing else, and didn't have to register well ahead of time as they did in the past.
    2) The DFL state convention chose Mike Freeman, not Humphrey, to be their candidate to be governor. When he wasn't polling anywhere near Coleman's totals, the push toward the primary in September was for state Attorney General Skip Humphrey, in their theory a more marketable name, but in essence gave him less time to campaign with the party 100% behind him.
    3) Coleman was viewed by a lot of Democrats (at least the ones I talked to at the time) as being too conservative when he WAS a Democrat. When he went Republican, he went all in...which (as Jesse pointed out) did seem to have leave some independent voters wondering how one person could change their values so strongly in such a short time.
    4) Dean Barkley (outside of Jesse, which is an acknowledged large gap) was probably the most successful 3rd party candidate in the state's recent history. You could do a video on him.
    As 1998 went on, it was something else seeing Ventura initially interviewed separately from other candidates (because the press didn't take him seriously). Once he was involved, he won each and every debate. Honestly, the biggest hurdle Ventura had was the press. Face to face, to a lowly intern, he was incredibly polite and engaging. That, in combination with his forthright stances on policy (and very clearly taking the campaign seriously) won him the job.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but was Norm Coleman a moderate or establishment Republican senator in the 2000’s?
      Just curious because it sounds like his record was that, but in 2020 and 2024 he endorsed Trump, and he said foreign policy is the main thing that impressed him.
      And if there’s no same day registration, or otherwise Ventura wasn’t there, do you think Coleman or Humphrey would have won more likely?

  • @erichansen2999
    @erichansen2999 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    The story telling in this video brought me to tears at the end. I'm crying over a show that is entirely charts, graphs, and the occasional news clipping

    • @janedoe3043
      @janedoe3043 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because it shows the destruction of our country?

  • @ChickenGeorgeClooney
    @ChickenGeorgeClooney 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +67

    It's funny how Side 1 and Side 2 ends up being "The Unelectable Side" vs "The Electable Side"

    • @lhaviland8602
      @lhaviland8602 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not at all echoed by any recent events, of course.

  • @BaneDFU
    @BaneDFU 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Ya know, maybe the Reform Silly Party's stance on term limits isn't so bad

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Execution, on the other hand, is a bit too much...

  • @dispensergoinup
    @dispensergoinup 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

    i literally graduated between the first video and now

    • @GamerboyNave
      @GamerboyNave 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So real

    • @GreatistheWorld
      @GreatistheWorld 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      first of all congratulations

    • @THWikiPodcast
      @THWikiPodcast 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I'd forgotten this series was a thing

  • @guillermogarciaaguilar6035
    @guillermogarciaaguilar6035 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I haven't heard anyone describe so well what's behind the movements that sought to change anything, yes, it's a lot of anger, an incredible amount of fury at the powerful who don't care (or doesn't seem to care) about anyone else but themselves, while failing completely to acknolewdge the fact that they need to, in order to survive; but it also has the same amount of love, for those close to you and other people you might never meet or even see, but you care about, love for your country, your community, and everyone in it, a love for having something better for everybody, not just you.
    I'm not american, and that bit got me emotional because I´ve been there, sitting in a corner watching lots of people berating the very ideas they should be rooting for, fortunately, I also witnessed what happens when people realize it's not about them, it's about all of us, and I do sincerely hope and pray it happens in the US, because you had (and should get back) an incredible country.

  • @sethmaki1333
    @sethmaki1333 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +90

    I turned 18 in September 1998. Damn straight I voted for Jesse.

    • @nicholastricarico2957
      @nicholastricarico2957 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Yeah, who would have thought the former professional wrestler who actually put forward thoughtful, progressive social policy would clean up in the 18-34 Male demo? In all seriousness, this seems obvious in hindsight, but I would like to think that someone from the 2 major parties, whether it be an advisor or even an intern would have seen this factor and said....something? Anything at all?

  • @Jame5man
    @Jame5man 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +404

    Crazy how Jesse Ventura and Donald Trump have diverged so much since this all went down.
    Jesse, for his part, essentially remained the reform minded fiscal conservative with socially progressive views(which is my kind of guy) who recently was invited by Democrat Tim Walz to attend the signing of the bill that legalized weed in Minnesota. Something Jesse himself was unsuccessful in achieving during his time as governor.
    Donald, however, became Pat Buchanan

    • @dakruise1
      @dakruise1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      He also became President

    • @Jack-ec5sl
      @Jack-ec5sl 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m not exactly sure that Trump is Buchanan level. Trump is decidedly *neutral* on abortion, is anti-war, has a Jewish son in law, and generally supports fiscal responsibility. Trumps got his flaws, sure. Said some stuff that he probably regrets? Sure. But Joe Biden is on video *literally* saying that black people are inferior, which is wayyyyy worse than anything Trump has ever said.

    • @connectthedots5726
      @connectthedots5726 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

      @@dakruise1 unfortunately

    • @paulyouk3221
      @paulyouk3221 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      The politics and authoritarianism of Pat Buchanan, with the brain of Grandpa Simpson.

    • @janedoe3043
      @janedoe3043 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Donald became the worst human being alive in America.

  • @TRUTHANDCONSEQUENCESWILLNEVER
    @TRUTHANDCONSEQUENCESWILLNEVER 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +111

    The moment Ventura became governor he became defacto leader of the Reform movement, they should have realized this. The party should have re engineered around his ideas as to replicate success elsewhere and also to be focused on aiding him.

    • @frrascon
      @frrascon 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      yeah, but Ross Perot didn't want to cede power.

  • @Thej611
    @Thej611 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I can’t imagine how Gargan must have felt as he watched the party that he helped to create literally scream at him and disintegrate right in front of him on that Nashville stage. I think if I were him, I would have cried too

  • @adamallen4178
    @adamallen4178 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +104

    Dude the Jack Morris music…I knew it was Pat Buchanan

    • @rodney7793
      @rodney7793 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      Villain music

  • @Tuke932
    @Tuke932 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Not me crying over a dead political party from 2000 😭 I still love you Jack Gargan

    • @locorum9103
      @locorum9103 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks Saul

  • @projectAcy
    @projectAcy 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    jack gargan got Cloud Traveller treatment. he has attained immortality

    • @1998_MIN
      @1998_MIN 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I love how Bois fans (myself included) know his stock music cues by name
      I especially appreciate the irony of showing Donald Trump underneath the song called "Real Friends"

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@1998_MINThe two music cues I wish I could find and have asked about before to no replies are:
      1. swirling keyboard music that played during the majority of the oldest Dorktown videos (ex: the ones on Adam Dunn and on Rickey Henderson from 2018 or so).
      And 2. The very first keyboard track in that one Fumble Dimension that Kofie and Jon did on the poorly designed golf courses.
      Neither video has music listed at the end of the video or in the description and I have never been able to ask anyone about them who knows what they are.

    • @1998_MIN
      @1998_MIN 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fortynights1513 I don't remember those offhand but I do know not every library track they use is on streaming. Lots of stuff by Paul Hardcastle for example

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@1998_MINFor the record, these are the two videos I was thinking of:
      Adam Dunn: th-cam.com/video/jiZfc0b2t3Q/w-d-xo.html
      Golf: th-cam.com/video/rQYaRJ7RIvc/w-d-xo.html

  • @AdequateEmily
    @AdequateEmily 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Guys…he shows his sources every time. That’s not character assassination, those are just factual things people said. You can pause and find them and read them. It is not character assassination to quote someone and then go “I don’t like this opinion, I think it’s bad.”

  • @JScribe
    @JScribe 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +132

    Already watched this and part 3 twice. Y'all are in for a treat.

    • @bcschneider53
      @bcschneider53 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Seconded because I've watched both parts 2 and 3 about five or six times now. I can't get enough of it. Y'all better make sure you tune in!

    • @user-vr8ul3fd7d
      @user-vr8ul3fd7d 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm 16 mins in and I'm already excited for part 3

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I am very intrigued to see how what’s left of it played out after watching part two.

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@fortynights1513 A crazy cast of characters left over, I'm sure.

  • @Bonald9056
    @Bonald9056 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +113

    You know, Jon's diatribe against Pat Buchanan starting at 26:19 makes me respect Jon all the more for refusing to gloss over the arseholes in this story. That whole sequence is just art.

    • @nicholastricarico2957
      @nicholastricarico2957 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      You know, I thought that if you were to tell me a Republican-allied politician in the 80's named Pat were to break away to a third party, I would have guessed professional grifter and long-time televangelist Pat Robertson.
      I mean, I was close. At least in terms of their beliefs.

    • @johnobrien6145
      @johnobrien6145 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ☝️🤓

    • @nicholastricarico2957
      @nicholastricarico2957 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@david88497 His civilization of *checks notes* self-proclaimed white supremacists, secessionists, Hitler admirers, etc. Need I go on? Even many Republicans didn't want to associate with the guy. It's why he left the party in the first place.

    • @OllieHalsall-ww5xp
      @OllieHalsall-ww5xp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@david88497 Hey, we found David Duke!

    • @mapk1516
      @mapk1516 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@david88497 that's the loudest white supremacist dog whistle I've ever heard

  • @ZanraiKid
    @ZanraiKid 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    So a week ago, I bought some Topps political trading cards online from the ‘92 election to play Uno with. Cards like Bill playing sax, the Rainbow Coalition, Gay and Lesbian Rights, Rodney King, and Colin Powell. And then I got a name I didn’t expect, but then remembered he was a Republican primary candidate for the presidency as a Louisiana legislator. And he got stomped in the primary and joined the Reform Party in 1999.
    So I was spoiled on who the fascist is in Part 3, and likely also know why there is a little spot to the right of Buchanan. Some of y’all are not ready.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      My best guess is David Duke for that one spot in the corner.

    • @DiamondKingStudios
      @DiamondKingStudios 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@fortynights1513I thought he was in the House of Representatives.
      Never mind, he was a state legislator, but he did give Senator Johnson his closest Senate reelection race back in 1990.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@DiamondKingStudiosFun fact about Louisiana:
      They were the last state to popularly elect a Republican senator, doing so for the first time in 2004.

  • @sunshine_tidings6983
    @sunshine_tidings6983 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Still can't believe Pretty Good is back

  • @thomasgillespie17
    @thomasgillespie17 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Trump's entry into this story was the most incredible jumpscare. Never change Jon, this was perfect

  • @TamaCinema69
    @TamaCinema69 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This reaffirms the fact that Jesse Ventura is just a truly unique political figure and deserved a way better party than reform.

    • @TamaCinema69
      @TamaCinema69 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ChiTownOriginator cause he matured a bit and genuinely respects Tim Walz as a person

    • @TamaCinema69
      @TamaCinema69 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ChiTownOriginator developed his opinions

    • @TamaCinema69
      @TamaCinema69 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ChiTownOriginator he was always center left on social issues and libertarian leaning on the economy, now he’s still center left and libertarian leaning and the republicans have rocketed to authoritarian and far right, so it seems like he’s changed

    • @ChiTownOriginator
      @ChiTownOriginator วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TamaCinema69 right. Republicans are the authoritarian ones when the Democrats control most of the media and censor us constantly. Would you call a vaccine mandate authoritarian? Guess what? Both Walz and Harris supported the unconstitutional vaccine mandates that they illegally imposed on the citizens. Stop it with this. You're being silly.
      Btw I just realized I was calling him a senator when he was governor lol my b

    • @ChiTownOriginator
      @ChiTownOriginator วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TamaCinema69 TH-cam keeps deleting all my comments. I guess I have to keep it to one critique of the establishment per comment.
      First a correct, Ventura was governor. I misremembered.
      Second, do tell me how mandating unconstitutional vaccine mandates and lockdowns is anything but totalitarian authoritarianism.

  • @appointmenteer
    @appointmenteer 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    i have two big takeaways. one is that the us political system is rotten to the core and that we need way stronger and more extreme forces than the reform party if were gonna make things better. the other is that the month initials of july thru november spell "JASON".

    • @shoeboxbistro
      @shoeboxbistro 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I mean, there is an overarching power from which all representatives draw their power

    • @janedoe3043
      @janedoe3043 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Well, if people don't vote Trump away this fall, it's over. He has made it clear he wants democracy to end.

    • @jamesfunnymorrison8305
      @jamesfunnymorrison8305 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@janedoe3043 democracy is already dead and the two party system killed it

    • @dominicdingess7140
      @dominicdingess7140 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Jesus Christ it's Jason December

    • @fernandosimon3497
      @fernandosimon3497 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I miss Vine

  • @StegDarkhorse
    @StegDarkhorse 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Man, that retelling of the meeting really got me.

  • @guy4835
    @guy4835 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    13:35 I love how the bar graph goes to heaven lol

  • @kafkaesque6459
    @kafkaesque6459 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Jon's reading of Pat Buchanan is right on the money. Hunter S. Thompson said he was fun to drink with, because he never hid his awfulness.

  • @mymoviesbetter8466
    @mymoviesbetter8466 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Ross Perot was just the Hulk Hogan of the Reform Party

  • @thesirz3
    @thesirz3 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Anyone else distracted by the name "JASON D." popping out at you all the time in this video?

  • @mightymartinpetrov
    @mightymartinpetrov 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Laughed heartily at "Term Limits with Dignity" policy of one of the Reform Party clones.

  • @RecurringAWL
    @RecurringAWL 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Why did this make me sad? 😂 Jon has a real talent for story telling! Speaks volumes.

  • @Hafk
    @Hafk 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    that reenactment hits me every time

    • @1998_MIN
      @1998_MIN 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's both so sad to see Gargan be exiled by the very party he started but also extremely funny seeing a slap fight reenacted using just rectangular prisms

  • @LetsGoGetThem
    @LetsGoGetThem 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Jesse Ventura's victory is honestly one of the most mind-blowing things in American history.

  • @nate_storm
    @nate_storm 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    2010-2014 bed ‼️‼️🔥🔥

  • @zachreacts5508
    @zachreacts5508 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I can't wait until the three part series about James B. Weaver's Populist/People's Party!!!

  • @alecgelande8017
    @alecgelande8017 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    It's 2024 and this legend might be hosting Saturday Night's Main Event on NBC again soon

  • @eltonidelostonis5684
    @eltonidelostonis5684 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the shade of yellow of the board changing with every event, being saturated when ventura wins to show the party at its peak and slowly being desaturated when its falling appart is a fantastic choice.

  • @1998_MIN
    @1998_MIN 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can we all just appreciate how great it was to be a Minnesotan in the late fall of 1998
    I myself was a toddler but between Jesse Ventura and Randy Moss, other states couldn't tell us nothing

  • @azcs6
    @azcs6 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    34:59 like that could ever happen

    • @borger99
      @borger99 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wrong timestamp, buster

    • @borger99
      @borger99 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Too busy trying to fish for likes, loser.

    • @azcs6
      @azcs6 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@borger99thank you I was watching it live

  • @rukaumora8723
    @rukaumora8723 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I had no idea who Jack Gargan was before all of this. Now I'm crying with him when he's removed from his position by a mob of people that don't understand what the party was about at all. "You don't even know me." That hurt, man. Such is American politics.

  • @gardenboydon
    @gardenboydon 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Brilliant video. Ego started the reform party. Ego ended the reform party

  • @JoeKoenen
    @JoeKoenen 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    If all the other content weren't enough, calling Buchanan a POS for ten minutes was, and now I'm rushing over to Patreon ❤❤❤

  • @ajw20
    @ajw20 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I actually got emotional at the end, when they highjacked the entire movement. It felt so defeating for Gargan

  • @andylong9630
    @andylong9630 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Who does your music? I unironically enjoy the hell out of 80s/90s shopping muzak, and these Reform videos have been a real pleasure to listen to as well as watch. Looking forward to part 3!

    • @1998_MIN
      @1998_MIN 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      He's got a Spotify playlist for this and several other series. I love the music too! Mostly KPM library instrumentals by guys like Keith Mansfield and Alan Hawkshaw

  • @mxmschae
    @mxmschae 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Brb, I gotta go rewatch part 1 because I forgot most of it

  • @DS-lo2op
    @DS-lo2op 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    My grandfather died a few weeks ago, and as I was cleaning out his house I found a well-worn Ross Perot hat. It’s worth noting that my grandfather was pretty staunchly apolitical, which might be an oxymoron. Anyway, I think Perot really touched people like my grandfather that were exhausted with the “business as usual” politics and were willing to overlook some occasionally problematic views. I like to think that he just wanted someone who was relatable.
    Fast forward to 2016, I remember him saying in passing “that Bernie guy makes sense. He seems like a good man.”
    Ross Perot was responsible for Buchanan and accepted racism throughout his career. But somehow his character strikes a similar chord with folks as an independent like Bernie who is a lifelong advocate for equality and social justice. They’re just funny lil guys who truly want to fix a broken system in the only ways they know how, for better or for worse.

    • @pokehybridtrainer
      @pokehybridtrainer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Like Burnie, the party they were affiliated with screwed them over. Damn it Perot. Damn it Hillary. We were on the edge of greatness.

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@pokehybridtrainer At least Bernie stood firm and true to his own beliefs above all else, all things considered. Plus if Kamala wins, her vice president appears to be the closest guy to Bernie we have yet.

  • @anthonybarsness1462
    @anthonybarsness1462 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I grew up in Brooklyn park Minnesota. It was an interesting ride to watch

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Is Brooklyn Park in Hennepin County?
      Also fun Minnesota political factoid for you: The city of Minnetrista has backed all GOP presidential candidates since at least 1956.

    • @1998_MIN
      @1998_MIN 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@fortynights1513Typical Minnetrista brainrot

    • @David_Drums
      @David_Drums 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@fortynights1513it is in Hennepin county! It's on the northwest edge of Minneapolis.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@David_DrumsI knew there was a Brooklyn Park there, didn’t know if it was still in the county or not.

  • @ericpeters6345
    @ericpeters6345 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    My parents both voted for Ventura because they thought the other two were just the same old politicians

  • @johncmousley
    @johncmousley 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    that's fiscal conservatives for you; bickering into ever smaller factions

  • @RyanPoust
    @RyanPoust 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jon Bois could literally say “…and then, there’s this guy (or x thing happens)” for any event and it will give you goosebumps

  • @Jack-bj2xi
    @Jack-bj2xi 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You’re telling me Orson Swindle, the guy described as crazy loyal dipped out on Perot??

  • @TheBroganBurke
    @TheBroganBurke 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    as a member of the Pretty Good Reform Party, I believe you should rename Side 2 to Side A. I believe calling Side A two makes it seem secondary and Jon Bois is clearly playing favorites. It's unAmerican

  • @mariovelasquez1243
    @mariovelasquez1243 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    when he said ventura picked up the phone I was fully expecting that "hey uhh... bud?"

  • @BBallBios-gh2cb
    @BBallBios-gh2cb 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Jesse Ventura is the GOAT!

  • @michaelh9656
    @michaelh9656 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    35:00 the very definition of "laughing mirthlessly" is what I just did

  • @mhkamath
    @mhkamath 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Donald Trump showing up hit me harder than Samuel L Jackson in Iron Man's post credit scene on opening weekend.

  • @ImStevenJohnson
    @ImStevenJohnson 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Enjoyed part 1! Looking forward to part 2!!

  • @JackAsh2081
    @JackAsh2081 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Hell yea… I was “mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore” but now I’m…pretty good🤓

  • @somniad
    @somniad 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    good for Ventura. seems like he got out without getting burned tooooo badly. I hope. I'm scared for episode 3

  • @lizellis2661
    @lizellis2661 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    2000 was my first presidential election. There are parts of this video that made me almost inhale my lips. It hurts so much.

  • @bkofford
    @bkofford 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    21:26 Subtitles say "(indistinct)". Word said is "Perotness".

    • @crazyluigi6664
      @crazyluigi6664 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, I have no idea why indistinct had to be put in there...

  • @CallN0w
    @CallN0w 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    honestly I'm all for Reform Silly Party

  • @Just.Kidding
    @Just.Kidding 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Jesse Ventura seems great - hell, I honestly would have voted for him if I was of age at the time - until you actually have to _live with him_ as your governor. He is _well_ hated in MN. I remember in my childhood neighborhood, a very low-income area, was a "billboard" (really just a large painted part of someone's apartment) with a plushie of Ventura with the caption "Minesota's Worst Governor". It could have very easily been vandalized, but nobody ever did. Except for when Tim Pawlenty was (somehow) elected, when the owner amended it to "Minnesota's _2nd_ Worst Governor".

    • @farmboyjad
      @farmboyjad 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Jesse's legacy - much like the man himself - is complicated and polarizing. It's absolutely true that his stubbornness and his unique talent for getting into petty squabbles resulted in mass chaos and governmental gridlock, and as a result there's a pretty compelling claim that he was one of the least effective governors the state ever had. It's also true that his dogged idealism and candor permanently shifted public sentiment on the causes he championed, and many of those causes have gone on to define the political landscape of both Minnesota and the country in the 25 years since, and as a "voice of the people" he still maintains a strong following and presence to this day.

  • @NightRogue77
    @NightRogue77 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Holy. ****. This video just made me realize my very first vote I ever cast was apparently for a member of the political party that was key in bringing Trump into active politics.
    35:00 this will no doubt retroactively age very poorly. Wait, does that mean it will age like a calf?? 🤔

    • @senLuno
      @senLuno 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Idk if that ages as poorly as the people that didn't know biden was in politics long enough to be a major player in most of the bad choices from the 70s up to now, focus on the reform party dawg

    • @NightRogue77
      @NightRogue77 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@senLuno so the people that for some reason didn’t know that a lifelong politician was a lifelong politician, are going to age poorly? What, do you get like extra wrinkles if you didn’t know that?

  • @estellegrignon
    @estellegrignon 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Huge shoutout to everyone so far in the comments who have seen part 3 on Patreon and refuse to spoil it, no matter how insane it seems to get later

  • @FallingSloths
    @FallingSloths 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    "Holocaust denialism" might be the worst words I've ever heard follow the phrase "dabbled in"

  • @Djiehh
    @Djiehh 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A Bois video is the only kind of video that I like before I watch it.

  • @counttobase1
    @counttobase1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    How does he do it? Jon Bois can weave an array of words on a topic that i have very little interest in and make feel so devastatingly beautiful and sad all at once.

  • @DorianDavisddd
    @DorianDavisddd 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So does this mean that the two party system is so deeply ingrained that it is inescapable?

  • @Cannon530YT
    @Cannon530YT 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Part 1 is... Pretty Good!

    • @Cannon530YT
      @Cannon530YT 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Part 2 is... Pretty... Good?

  • @Wowthatsfunnylol121
    @Wowthatsfunnylol121 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The background music doesnt have to go this hard.

    • @matthewhallberg8256
      @matthewhallberg8256 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      haha, first time watching a secret base video?

  • @36inc
    @36inc 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    this series really just proves that as much good politics as you get you are never immune to common pettiness. humans are not good at this XD

  • @SirExal
    @SirExal 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Don't let it be forgot, that once there was a spot, for one brief shining moment, that was known as Camelot.

  • @CadChamberlain
    @CadChamberlain 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Pat Buchanan with the scorched-earth edgelord approach to politics

  • @JMillz512
    @JMillz512 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    That was awesome, very fascinating story. Cant wait for Part 3

  • @jimfree0
    @jimfree0 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    "It's enough to make you wonder if we are capable of anything else." (36:26)
    God damn that hurts. With RFK Jr. recently taking the wheels off the cart, I don't need to see part 3 to feel the endgame doom on this mf'er. Brave, polarizing work by the Secret Base team. Thanks for making us look in the mirror. It's so difficult, and ugly. But I feel oddly optimistic, actually. Just like that laughably silly 22 year old who checked the box for Perot in '92.

  • @CullenCraft
    @CullenCraft วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've been binging so much old jon Bois content that I assumed part one of this video was from like... 2014. Just saw the publish date on this one. Dang.

  • @Blortoblorto
    @Blortoblorto 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I love it, but given that the Ventura administration was the only time the reform party held power and is given zero time is very disappointing.

    • @kafkaesque6459
      @kafkaesque6459 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      From what I've heard, Ventura had a really hard time getting along with anyone, and couldn't get almost anything passed.

    • @Narokkurai
      @Narokkurai 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@kafkaesque6459 He's been a better organizer since leaving office. He remains broadly popular and willing to throw his weight behind candidates who align with his values, and an endorsement by Jesse Ventura is usually a good way to get elected.

    • @bmac4
      @bmac4 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Its not really the overall point of this story. Ventura spent a mere 2 years in the party and it came undone so badly so quickly because of the infighting that warded him off from sticking to it for long

    • @DwightKShrute0
      @DwightKShrute0 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kafkaesque6459 That's my understanding too, and it really ended up making him an ineffective leader. But he also did make some bad decisions, and Minnesota was in a much worse place financially when he left office than when he took it. He came in with a $3 million surplus and left with a $4.5 million deficit.

  • @annelorraine9529
    @annelorraine9529 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I’ve already watched this series on Patreon and I just have to say I genuinely think this series deserves fancy journalism awards. Incredible storytelling and examination of a fascinating bit of political history. Bravo, Secret Base (and Jon) 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @PerryPlanet
    @PerryPlanet ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    "Can Trump win the presidency? Of course not, that's never going to happen."
    Love how quickly you slide that one in, lol

  • @JosephSivits
    @JosephSivits 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    yaknow, independent journalism is REALLY great right now. This is great. Just amazing. Crazy that something of this production quality, and this well-written, and this well-researched, to have THIS MUCH REACH, was absolutely impossible 20 years ago.

  • @ash_11117
    @ash_11117 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Where's the picture of Jack Gargan? I can't find it anywhere.

  • @emberreviews1364
    @emberreviews1364 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Actually shouted at my TV in disgust at the Pat Buchanan reveal cause I simply did not see that coming.

  • @matthewnormand2041
    @matthewnormand2041 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    This is pretty good.

  • @oorrossie
    @oorrossie วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love this video series and the presentation style. Please please please do more of these on political/ culture topics!

  • @AndreNDP
    @AndreNDP 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The 2000 Presidential Election: Because America Can't Have Nice Things.

  • @DorianDavisddd
    @DorianDavisddd 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’m excited for part three