Bycatch is such an insanely important issue and so very few people (in my circle anyway) seem to know about it. Thanks for a great video, hope the algorithm picks this up and pushes!
the trick isn't making it scientifically feasible (we can do basically anything if we put our minds to it), it's making it financially infeasible for seafood companies to keep using the terrible nets
And that's not to mention that there are an uncountable number of unregistered, or illegally registered fishing boats and fleets operated all over the world bye private and public interest that honestly could not care less about sustainability. How do you enforce better fishing practices when there is every incentive to catch as much as possible, with as little effort as possible? 🤷 I think these techniques and interventions are really cool, but I don't see how we can implement them universally. I think we'll have to be satisfied with "reduction," and save "prevention" for another day…
I am never surprised to see the Monterey Bay Aquarium mentioned in relation to serious conservation research, they've been talking practical solutions for my whole life.
But it doesn't get better when you hate on that concept. One needs to accept that and design solutions, that live in the sweet spot of being financially viable and good for the environment at the same time. Same with consumer friendlyness, stuff like that only works if the regulations are designed in a way where both affected parties benefit
Fishery regulation enforcement is absolutely necessary, especially as weather trends change, populations grow, and trade is increased worldwide. Finding and implementing solutions to reduce by-catch is a step in the right direction. So are nature preserves, education, catch limits, and season management. It's a huge task being handled piecemeal the world over, which I think is part of the problem.
It is sad it has taken so long to start working on many of these. Heck, I had to write a paper on this in University almost 30 years ago and at least 3 of these were being talked about then. The stubborness of people and companies sometimes is sad.
@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer obsessive vegan spotted. Veganism is so not a solution when you're forced to rely on the pharma industry to provide you with the nutrients you're massively lacking... It also does wonders at killing babies. It's a completely extremist ideology. Try moderation instead. And also, stop assuming. You have no idea about OP's diet.
@@justalonesoul5825 What nutrients am I lacking? I've been vegan since 2018, and all my blood work is great. I'm a combat veteran and get labs done regularly. Do you think the supplements industry was created for less than 1% of the population? Vegans aren't the ones filling up hospitals. Lol Every credible health organization, including the world health and dietetics organization, has stated that an appropriately planned vegan diet is adequate for all stages of life from infancy to pregnancy and old age. Also, I'm not assuming anything. I just commented that for other to see. Clear, it triggered you.
@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer Being vegan isn't going to change anything, we need to convince fishing companies that using ecologically-friendly nets are not only viable, but also more efficient and possibly cheaper than regular nets.
That first photo of the bycatch is straight up shameful. You can barely even tell what they were trying to pull in - clams or prawns - because there is such an obscene waste of life mixed in there. Not just the shark.
2:56 Imagine going to where some aliens are having what seems like a buffet, only to start hearing the screaming death cries of your cousin Gerald who went missing last month
I think the metaphor is more like getting close to where aliens are chowing down on wild deer, and hearing the sounds of different people saying variations of "oh my god, Gerald's dead! I think he drowned! Oh no, Gerald!"
I think something people forget sometimes is that fishing is ultimately done by people. Yes, they may be hired by a large company and may not have a ton of say in how things are done, but they do care about bycatch, often beyond just the profits. Imagine, for a moment, untangling a dead dolphin from a net. Think of both how physically difficult and emotionally upsetting that would be. Scientists aren't just finding the problems all on their own - if they're doing thier jobs right, they're working with people on the boats to understand exactly what the problem is, take real world measurements, and test solutions. These things aren't being imposed on the fishing industry, they're being pitched to them
Please support channels like OCN, Ocean Conservation Namibia, that rescue seals from fishing line entanglements along the Skeleton Coast. They capture/cut/released over 850 seals last year alone. Thank you. Pick local litter!
As a person from a trawling community, watching the couple net boats come through and scrape the hell out of our waters and destroy the ecosystem around here had pushed some people around here to running the crews of the net boats out of town when they try to dock here to weather a storm. We're able to subsist just fine with shrimp and crab pots to reduce bycatch. Just turns out the highly destructive nets are the most profitable.
Imagine walking along and you start hearing ".....Billy died on this fence....." and it's a little speaker tied to a wire fence next to a warning sign.
Thats great to hear and i rly Hope it will be adopted and helps But we also need Ro clear the Oceans from ghostnets, those are the Most deadly nets around
Unless this is regulated, I don't think this will happen... we have solutions, but if there's no financial incentive to use the solution, businesses will now touch it.
Heck yeah! Excellent solutions for some really touch problems. I've wondered about these issues for a long time and how we might adjust our fishing methods.
Did the studies on the turtle excluder devices follow up with the excluded turtles and other animals to see if they're injured in the process of being excluded?
This needs to be globally legislated and enforced with massive fines for non compliance and by massive I mean really massive so there is no way anyone would risk it
I’m interested in where the tuna/albatross story went. I don’t imagine a crew would love going from day-fishing to night-fishing 🤔 have to wonder what incentive they would have to make that kind of a switch
@thekaxmax that would definitely be a fair conclusion when thinking from the crew perspective, but that would mean mean lower profit per unit of fish caught and the video seemed to make it clear that yields were constant whether or not they avoided catching albatrosses. With that being said, I guess a more appropriate question is: what would incentivize business owners to accept lower profits? Seems like the solution would need to be a regulatory one, but I could be wrong!
I just like to say, I noticed you guys had to change the thumbnail 3 times. I didn't watch this right away not out of the topic being boring, but from it being a topic i'm actually already a bit informed on. Anyways still an important topic!
You’d think preserving the ecosystem that these fishing companies operate in would be enough incentive. Guess they don’t really care if the industry dies in 50 years
"We accidentally found a way to stop birds from getting caught in our fish nets when we were trying to find a way to stop turtles from getting caught in there." Good Lord commercial fishing is a mess!
4:44 Okay, I'm confused about the sponge catches. How do they got caught in the nest in the first place and how did the new device allow them to escape. Aren't sponges stationary ?
As an extra bonus, studying the languages of dolphins and whales will better prepare us for when a going space cigar shows up to fry our technology and vaporize our oceans. It'll save use the effort of having to slingshot around the sun to travel back to the 1980s to bring two humpback whales to the future.
My impression of what would help, I could be wrong, is a time machine to stop the codfish stocked from being decimated. Just send someone from the future, that is reputable to fisher-folk, and warn them that they will destroy their livelihood if they keep it up. Sci-fi solutions are no solutions, just a warning for other fisheries.
Aves Argentinas is a non profit organization that's working with the local government and fishing companies on this very issue. With a tiny investment and aome government regulations they were able to reduce significantly the casualties of seabirds and other animals without impacting the profit of the vessels
Yes, but how do we catch fewer of the fish that we want as well. Like maybe the younger one so they could reproduce longer and increase the overall amount of fish in the oceans? Here's hoping we think of that next.
Also a good way to protect the ocean, is to not consume the animals that live in it by the thousands. The question isn't whether the whole world can do it, it's whether YOU can do it. If you really care about oceanic ecosystems you'd make that little sacrifice, because the advantage of having a liveable planet should win out
Industrial fishing is basically a disaster. Not only ecologically, but also in the longterm you end up catching less and less fishes beacuse you're destroying whole ecosystems
The idea to keep the big fish and throw back the small ones is so backwards. Bigger fish reproduce more, so taking them out is detrimental to the population. It's also shown to make the species physically smaller because there are so few big fish left.
@alexhansen2102 yes, wish all you like but much of the farmed seafood will continue to come from countries with poor regulation or, the pressure to provide jobs will result in diluting environmental constraints. I generally just don't eat seafood. No-one is ever going to farm sardines
Industrial farming & industrial fishing should be banned until they can be done environmentally sustainable way. Higher prices would reward the farmers & fishermen, while governments can distribute equal amounts to everyone from higher taxes. Well, if they weren't run by billionaires.
Yeah let's just pretend to ignore that hundreds of millions if not billions of people on the planet rely on fish for subsistance. The utter simpleness of some people thinking global problems can be solved by magic thinking and snaps of the fingers...
Anyone that has done business consulting in China could tell you this won't work on the Chinese fishing fleets that go literally anywhere they want in the world and illegally fish. They simply don't care about sustainable business practices, international norms, or the environment.
Stop eating fish. It's that simple. It's cruel af and destroying our environment. A meat-eating environmentalist/ animal loving conservationist is one hell of an oxymoron.
That isn't a choice for some people, many countries primary source of meat is sea food. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_seafood_consumption
I'd serve the bycatch animals as dishes in their own right. Imagine seagull being served at a seafood restaurant, it might taste a lot like chicken. Turtle might taste good too and as for dolphin, the Japanese already eat those.
This is my least favorite host :( I was really hoping she wouldn’t be here with the other gentlemen finish his guest week. Please use other hosts, this persons voice isn’t a pleasant listen.
"No! Get out of the net! I want the fish next to you!" me in Animal Crossing
Bycatch is such an insanely important issue and so very few people (in my circle anyway) seem to know about it. Thanks for a great video, hope the algorithm picks this up and pushes!
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the trick isn't making it scientifically feasible (we can do basically anything if we put our minds to it), it's making it financially infeasible for seafood companies to keep using the terrible nets
Lobbyists and Corporations - Well, that is where I am going to stop you bud...
She covers this
How about stopping deciding the viability of incredibly necessary actions on how much money it makes for a few people?
And that's not to mention that there are an uncountable number of unregistered, or illegally registered fishing boats and fleets operated all over the world bye private and public interest that honestly could not care less about sustainability. How do you enforce better fishing practices when there is every incentive to catch as much as possible, with as little effort as possible? 🤷 I think these techniques and interventions are really cool, but I don't see how we can implement them universally. I think we'll have to be satisfied with "reduction," and save "prevention" for another day…
Lmfao
I am never surprised to see the Monterey Bay Aquarium mentioned in relation to serious conservation research, they've been talking practical solutions for my whole life.
It's always the same story with businesses: we're not going to do what's right until there is a financial incentive
But it doesn't get better when you hate on that concept. One needs to accept that and design solutions, that live in the sweet spot of being financially viable and good for the environment at the same time. Same with consumer friendlyness, stuff like that only works if the regulations are designed in a way where both affected parties benefit
Fishery regulation enforcement is absolutely necessary, especially as weather trends change, populations grow, and trade is increased worldwide. Finding and implementing solutions to reduce by-catch is a step in the right direction. So are nature preserves, education, catch limits, and season management.
It's a huge task being handled piecemeal the world over, which I think is part of the problem.
It is sad it has taken so long to start working on many of these. Heck, I had to write a paper on this in University almost 30 years ago and at least 3 of these were being talked about then. The stubborness of people and companies sometimes is sad.
Change starts with you. Live vegan.
@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer not everyone has a gut microbiome compatible veganism.
@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer obsessive vegan spotted. Veganism is so not a solution when you're forced to rely on the pharma industry to provide you with the nutrients you're massively lacking... It also does wonders at killing babies. It's a completely extremist ideology. Try moderation instead. And also, stop assuming. You have no idea about OP's diet.
@@justalonesoul5825 What nutrients am I lacking? I've been vegan since 2018, and all my blood work is great. I'm a combat veteran and get labs done regularly.
Do you think the supplements industry was created for less than 1% of the population?
Vegans aren't the ones filling up hospitals. Lol
Every credible health organization, including the world health and dietetics organization, has stated that an appropriately planned vegan diet is adequate for all stages of life from infancy to pregnancy and old age.
Also, I'm not assuming anything. I just commented that for other to see. Clear, it triggered you.
@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer Being vegan isn't going to change anything, we need to convince fishing companies that using ecologically-friendly nets are not only viable, but also more efficient and possibly cheaper than regular nets.
That first photo of the bycatch is straight up shameful. You can barely even tell what they were trying to pull in - clams or prawns - because there is such an obscene waste of life mixed in there. Not just the shark.
2:56 Imagine going to where some aliens are having what seems like a buffet, only to start hearing the screaming death cries of your cousin Gerald who went missing last month
"Oh, that's Gerald! ... never liked him"
...And what's the problem?
@@thekaxmax😁
I think the metaphor is more like getting close to where aliens are chowing down on wild deer, and hearing the sounds of different people saying variations of "oh my god, Gerald's dead! I think he drowned! Oh no, Gerald!"
I gotta say, a buffet of ANY kind that involves screaming-as-ambiance is uhhhhhh not gonna be one that I attend
I think something people forget sometimes is that fishing is ultimately done by people. Yes, they may be hired by a large company and may not have a ton of say in how things are done, but they do care about bycatch, often beyond just the profits. Imagine, for a moment, untangling a dead dolphin from a net. Think of both how physically difficult and emotionally upsetting that would be. Scientists aren't just finding the problems all on their own - if they're doing thier jobs right, they're working with people on the boats to understand exactly what the problem is, take real world measurements, and test solutions. These things aren't being imposed on the fishing industry, they're being pitched to them
Please support channels like OCN, Ocean Conservation Namibia, that rescue seals from fishing line entanglements along the Skeleton Coast. They capture/cut/released over 850 seals last year alone. Thank you.
Pick local litter!
Six months. Six months??? OMFG!
As a person from a trawling community, watching the couple net boats come through and scrape the hell out of our waters and destroy the ecosystem around here had pushed some people around here to running the crews of the net boats out of town when they try to dock here to weather a storm.
We're able to subsist just fine with shrimp and crab pots to reduce bycatch. Just turns out the highly destructive nets are the most profitable.
Have we really tried the proposed solution at 0:35? I think that would make a short, but entertaining, paper.
The Prinny avatar is so appropriate for this comment, dood!
Imagine walking along and you start hearing ".....Billy died on this fence....." and it's a little speaker tied to a wire fence next to a warning sign.
Thats great to hear and i rly Hope it will be adopted and helps
But we also need Ro clear the Oceans from ghostnets, those are the Most deadly nets around
We need vids more often from you Savannah. You are the best script reader on this channel. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I second the motion…
Unless this is regulated, I don't think this will happen... we have solutions, but if there's no financial incentive to use the solution, businesses will now touch it.
Thanks!
This is a particularly good one Scishow team
Heck yeah! Excellent solutions for some really touch problems. I've wondered about these issues for a long time and how we might adjust our fishing methods.
Adorable shirt; very important topic. Thank you
Yeah, must be cold in the studio 😮
Did the studies on the turtle excluder devices follow up with the excluded turtles and other animals to see if they're injured in the process of being excluded?
Hopefully these nets can also help us save the Vaquitas!
Sadly, that is highly unlikely, their count is under 10 individuals right now.
Most of the trash in the Pacific garbage patch is fishing nets and equipment.
This needs to be globally legislated and enforced with massive fines for non compliance and by massive I mean really massive so there is no way anyone would risk it
Hurray for Seafood Watch!
I just wanna say, the shirt is super cute and I love it!
Very cool! Hope these new net designs catch on!
Thank you so much, this gives me hope!!❤
This video is nothing but good news.
I’m interested in where the tuna/albatross story went. I don’t imagine a crew would love going from day-fishing to night-fishing 🤔 have to wonder what incentive they would have to make that kind of a switch
More money made per hour
@thekaxmax that would definitely be a fair conclusion when thinking from the crew perspective, but that would mean mean lower profit per unit of fish caught and the video seemed to make it clear that yields were constant whether or not they avoided catching albatrosses. With that being said, I guess a more appropriate question is: what would incentivize business owners to accept lower profits? Seems like the solution would need to be a regulatory one, but I could be wrong!
@@thekaxmax it didn’t include your tag for some reason!
I really like your hair. Not sure if it's a new cut or just styled differently but it's really cute.
Yessss shouts out to my local aquarium!! 😋🥰
Can someone please tell this to the expanding Chinese fishing fleets illegally fishing across the globe, because they don't care.
The issue of catching albatrosses in albacore nets really came to a head when a fisherman landed Jessica Alba.
I just like to say, I noticed you guys had to change the thumbnail 3 times. I didn't watch this right away not out of the topic being boring, but from it being a topic i'm actually already a bit informed on. Anyways still an important topic!
You’d think preserving the ecosystem that these fishing companies operate in would be enough incentive. Guess they don’t really care if the industry dies in 50 years
"We accidentally found a way to stop birds from getting caught in our fish nets when we were trying to find a way to stop turtles from getting caught in there." Good Lord commercial fishing is a mess!
"since fishermen aren't Aquaman" -> I'm gonna need to see a source for this (jk of course, awesome video!)
That seems like a whole lot of work compared to just not eating fish.
4:44 Okay, I'm confused about the sponge catches. How do they got caught in the nest in the first place and how did the new device allow them to escape. Aren't sponges stationary ?
Some nets are designed to literally drag the ocean floor, all kinds of critters get caught.
@@katinapac-baez5083 How did the sponges swam out of using the new trapdoor?
@remliqa their weight trips the door... Have you ever seen the bird pit-traps made with cardboard trap doors and rubber bands? same concept.
@@remliqa sponges don't swim, but they do get caught up in the chaos of the rakes or the weighted chain on the bottom of the net's mouth.
As an extra bonus, studying the languages of dolphins and whales will better prepare us for when a going space cigar shows up to fry our technology and vaporize our oceans. It'll save use the effort of having to slingshot around the sun to travel back to the 1980s to bring two humpback whales to the future.
Or, you know... we could stop eating fish. Bycatch reduction: 100%.
VERY interesting. I really like this video.
My impression of what would help, I could be wrong, is a time machine to stop the codfish stocked from being decimated. Just send someone from the future, that is reputable to fisher-folk, and warn them that they will destroy their livelihood if they keep it up. Sci-fi solutions are no solutions, just a warning for other fisheries.
Aves Argentinas is a non profit organization that's working with the local government and fishing companies on this very issue. With a tiny investment and aome government regulations they were able to reduce significantly the casualties of seabirds and other animals without impacting the profit of the vessels
Yes, but how do we catch fewer of the fish that we want as well. Like maybe the younger one so they could reproduce longer and increase the overall amount of fish in the oceans? Here's hoping we think of that next.
Plastic fish nets are merging with rocks
yay! good hosts are back!
この動画の英語の意味が分かるように、いつかなりたいな。でも、発音は聞き取りやすい。なう(2024/12/17 07:06:45)
Now tell the Chinese to use these turtle cow catchers and lets see if they use them or any of the other ways to prevent by-catch.
The issue is how to enforce this economically.
Also a good way to protect the ocean, is to not consume the animals that live in it by the thousands. The question isn't whether the whole world can do it, it's whether YOU can do it.
If you really care about oceanic ecosystems you'd make that little sacrifice, because the advantage of having a liveable planet should win out
Industrial fishing is basically a disaster. Not only ecologically, but also in the longterm you end up catching less and less fishes beacuse you're destroying whole ecosystems
The idea to keep the big fish and throw back the small ones is so backwards. Bigger fish reproduce more, so taking them out is detrimental to the population. It's also shown to make the species physically smaller because there are so few big fish left.
How can current bycatch reduction methods be improved to both protect marine animals and not impact fishermen's profits?
But every species deserves to live!
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Say that to TB organisms
On planet with biotop based on predation? ...not plausible.. dream on kid...
Uh huh and wolves should go vegan
okay google, how do you say "What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us" in dolphin?
Sorry, Charlie...we don't you in our tuna catch!
If they could talk to fish what about targeted fish over hearing . Learning warning signs even animals try owed as a warning
Use platform used for oil rigs only completly under water just reefs or fish shelter
I mean, research solutions to these issues and convincing people to actually use them takes a lot of effort. But you could say it's a... net positive.
How do whip tale lizards do egg activation
Plus their pseudo mating behavior do they trade call
Thanks
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I’ve got an idea.
How about you just stop fishing then they’ll catch less bycatch. In fact it’ll be down to zero
We need better fish farming practices. That way we can leave the wild populations alone
Dream on. Much of current fish farming wrecks local habitats and I refuse to buy farmed prawns from some of the filthiest countries
@cassieoz1702
Thus the need for better practices
@alexhansen2102 yes, wish all you like but much of the farmed seafood will continue to come from countries with poor regulation or, the pressure to provide jobs will result in diluting environmental constraints. I generally just don't eat seafood. No-one is ever going to farm sardines
Swim down👇⬇️
How bout just say no to nets and hook and line only
I'm guessing the market will object to no prawns/shrimp, no sardines ... etc
good luck telling the chinese fleets
Ban nets.
Buoy is pronounced boy. It's from bouyant. You wouldn't say booeeant, it's just silly
Define 'fish'...
SciShow videos are getting too much distractions, introduction, fillers, and average jokes.
Industrial farming & industrial fishing should be banned until they can be done environmentally sustainable way. Higher prices would reward the farmers & fishermen, while governments can distribute equal amounts to everyone from higher taxes. Well, if they weren't run by billionaires.
Step 1 - Stop eating fish.
There is no need for a step 2.
Word. 🌱💪🏽🖖🏽
No.
Thank you!! Glad to see this!
Yeah let's just pretend to ignore that hundreds of millions if not billions of people on the planet rely on fish for subsistance. The utter simpleness of some people thinking global problems can be solved by magic thinking and snaps of the fingers...
Tell that to coastal communities who have lived on a primarily seafood diet for hundreds if not thousands of years
Anyone that has done business consulting in China could tell you this won't work on the Chinese fishing fleets that go literally anywhere they want in the world and illegally fish. They simply don't care about sustainable business practices, international norms, or the environment.
If you want to fix by catch scientist should work with fisherman instead they treat fisherman as if they are dumb criminals
Hmm, how about we stop buying fish so they stop fishing them and the bycatch goes away, 🤔
Name one thing humanity has successfully stopped doing
Or, maybe, we could stop fishing entirely by going vegan. Hasn't science determined that it's far better for the environment, and our health?
Stop eating fish. It's that simple. It's cruel af and destroying our environment.
A meat-eating environmentalist/ animal loving conservationist is one hell of an oxymoron.
I'm a meat-eating animal lover and I'm not a hypocrite. Not everyone who loves animals has to be vegan.
@@AaronGeo Yes. You're 100% a hypocrite.
Also, you don't have to love animals to give them basic rights to their own autonomy.
@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer Everyone has their own mentality. You don't have to convert people to yours like a missionary of a religion.
That isn't a choice for some people, many countries primary source of meat is sea food. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_seafood_consumption
@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer Everyone has their own mentality. I'll stick to my one.
weird topic!😂
I'd serve the bycatch animals as dishes in their own right. Imagine seagull being served at a seafood restaurant, it might taste a lot like chicken. Turtle might taste good too and as for dolphin, the Japanese already eat those.
not a great presenter - sorry
So you half ass your research and don’t even play us a sample of the dolphin avoidance sound? Come on.
Host perfect for voiceovers.
By that I mean, dressing like a random holiday shopper pulled in off the street.
This is my least favorite host :( I was really hoping she wouldn’t be here with the other gentlemen finish his guest week. Please use other hosts, this persons voice isn’t a pleasant listen.
That Asian dude is irritating to watch. Freaky eyes.
When you grow up you will have learned to be more accepting of others.
Seems little harsh. I personally don't mind any of the hosts. Or at least not strongly enough to say something like this.
What a toxic comment and toxic way to voice criticism. Please learn respect and consideration.