The TRUE THEORY Behind Building Drift Cars in Forza Horizon 5!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- WELCOME Back to another video! today we talk about DRIFT BUILD THEORY and the Differences in how you build / tune your vehicle, That will have an impact on your car build in different ways ASIDE from the obvious tuning that is done! Please enjoy the video and comment below what you think! Don't forget to leave a like and hit that sub button!
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Share code for s14 Zenki Tune here: 163291989 :) Enjoy! and THANK YOU!
But you can’t weld the diff ?
thanks,that ride looks 🔥
What week do you have?
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To be real the true beauty in Forza tuning is the more realistic builds...it makes the game more enjoyable overall... When everything is race this, race that, v10 swap, V12 swap, 1000hp.. you get bored with the game very quick because every car ends up feeling and sounding the same.. you're on the right path CrayG 👍🏾
Exactly, the majority of my cars in this game now are more realistic
…. Your car is slow no matter what it sounds like brother. That’s what it sounds like 🤌🏾😂😂😂(I’m just messing with you) 😅
it sounds real but drives like its hovering🤦🏾♂️ I rather a car drive well than sound well I guess
A class builds make for the most fun racing with your friends up n down the mountain or sum tougue maps
have you tried using a wheel with one of those s1 cars? its far from easy even with sim steering the controller does all the small micro movements for you. ive gone back set up my cars to their strengths a 90's tuner car shouldn't be S class maybe s1 with grip tires anything more then that and its undrivable
This is how we used to build cars back in GT6. It feels nicer because you can floor the gas and have fun rev banging around a corner. You can’t do that with those 700 HP + builds around tight corners
I miss GT6 lol, I hope GT7 is like it
Gt : vapelord808.
I'll be glad to show you low powered and high powered rev banging while drifting tight corners on a wheel for ya?
New friends bigger lobbies sounds like a win win
This is how I’ve been building my drift cars since Horizon 3 and it’s safe to say that I’m absolutely hooked.
My friends and I were talking about Halo and Forge mode and how Forza basically has its own Forge mode now. I realized that that’s what has always drawn me to Motorsport and Horizon, just like in Forge mode and the custom games we played like duck hunt, we get to set the rules and play how we want, and that is the beauty in Forza. We get to build cars based on the rulesets we choose for ourselves, The game does a great job at catering to how you want to play, and that’s what helps set it apart from other racing games
I respect you for this not many people like to take the realistic route of tuning on forza this is how most of my touge builds are just with an open diff makes it feel real as hell nice video g keep up the good work 👍🏽
A lot of people do. They just don’t have TH-cam channels.
@@mrtandemslidessbtt Okay? lol
@@mrtandemslidessbtt bruh hold this L
@@mrtandemslidessbtt they can always make one
A kaaz 2 way is like 1k it’s a realistic upgrade. Put a better diff in your car and the final drive tuning is a ring gear swap. All I’m saying is upgrade your diff.
I like building my cars like this, however ive been playing around with max everything builds and i gotta say that i have an r31 with the 3.0 racing engine that i spent a ton of time fine tuning into a missle and is by far the best drift car ive built to date. 5th/6th gear car and posted 1.5 mil on mountain drift zone. Drifting in fh5 feels incredible and im excited to see where it goes from here
Maybe share tune code?
I second this guy ^
I also reckon the r31 is a good drift car if not the best
My guy just Swayze d
Could you share your tune sir?
@@sakuraa2008 idk why but everytime I do it doesnt show up, ive posted it here in the replies like 3 times and it dissapears
I’d like to see more videos like this as well since I’m getting into custom tuning and trying to do less tune downloads. Specifically the final drive tuning ratios for street builds (I’m still lost). Speaking of user tunes I wish the game would let you test builds before you download em because it’s really like pulling a rabbit out of a hat.
For drag tunes don’t worry ab final unless ur gears are gettin lengthened too much then turn final to acc. 1st gear needs to be acc till it spins then turn it down. Everything else is just tuning to rpm. And your springs and all that. Make sure u do a burnout it’ll make a 100% difference on ur first to second gear. And if your turbocharged try to tune 1st for the 2step if it’s too slow then do what u want
HokiHoshi has some really good tuning videos for FH5
The reason this gearing and power is so good is because you're drifting low in the rev range, with proper throttle control and weight balancing being required.
Most people are just doing the "Formula Drift" style powerslide. Foot to the floor, bouncing off the revlimiter, with the gearing just low enough that you don't spin out.
That's what makes it so "smooth" and responsive. You're not just controlling a powerslide, you're actually drifting, the true definition, before it got bastardized by noob sliders here in the USA that can't break traction without 900whp.
Well said
Exactly. D1 killed skill and style.
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@@thatonenigeriansformula the "real drifting" shtick comes off as negative most of the time, but there is a reason so many people (often times obnoxiously) argue about it.
I was wondering why I hated the formula drift cars sooooo much… you literally have to floor it to get them to break loose and keep it pinned the whole time…. There’s no finesse
One of my favorite drift cars in that game is a KA 240 with 170hp and a 4.6 diff. Glad to see more people playing the game like this
just from that very first transition i could already tell the car was wayyyy smoother w that build, before it seem a bit hard to chain drifts around longer corners, but this car can carry even deeper angles & wider exits to setup the next drift effortlessly
I always use parts I would buy in real life.
That way every car keeps their own positive and negative aspects. Which ultimately make them the car they are.
I upgrade a little different but same concept of realistic and reasonable upgrades. Most cars between 300-450 hp, street trans just to change the final drive to a 4.3 or 4.6 like most s chassis, and set up the car similar to the meihan recipe all the drivers around Nara/Kansai use
I’ve always done this because I like the way the mostly stock cars feel. Each one has personality but if you put all the race parts on every car feels the same. It’s significantly more enjoyable to drive a car with some faults if your not concerned with outright performance. Great video man!
Crayg might be the only dude i watch for forza , one of the few true car people in the community
Finally I’m not the only one who prefers realistic builds! Also can we all agree that the drift events should be separated between RWD and AWD since AWD is broken as of right now?
Your so right on this one!! I just did this exact Tune but for the R-35 & it just feels so right!!
have you every tried to lower the tp on the 225 to maybe try and grip it up a little. You may think thats not it but grip is actually really important in drifting, but I guess the car is low in hp
The amount of people I’ve seen who don’t know how important grip is in drifting makes me wanna punch the air
Even just seeing you drift something low power that smoothly for a minute or two had me wanting a refund on my “””drift cars”””” pack. Just downloaded the lowest power drift tune I could find and wow… less really is more.
Even knowing that classic JDM cars are the ones to drift I didn’t realize just how much a few extra horses can totally ruin the feel. I actually had to manually search to find something under 600hp, but I’m glad I did.
The wheel is practically doing all the work, just careful throttle control and finally feeling what I expected when I bought my wheel.
Thank you.
Also post the toon codes k thanks 👋
Aww, he’s learning… Finally!! @CrayG might I recommend you get more into Suspension and Handling modifications. Pretty sure those two play MAJOR roles in racing, especially drifting. Also maybe work on grip driving as well. Cheers brotha
My man you are so right. It's definitely not about maxing the car. Thanks to you my drift supra is killing it now.
This is why I named my club imaginative motorwerks! The fun of this game is trying different things with the cars we know or admire
This helped me tune my low horsepower cars so much especially the old ones. Don’t have to engine swap anymore.
I copied this build with different body kits and weight reduction just small tweaks but its the same as your and its amazing
Been watching your channel a lot recently your killin it broski
thanks for opening my eyes to a new way if upgrading
Cray what is your wheel settings, they look sooo smoooth and easy. Can you discuss that in a video please.
I do something very similar with classic muscle cars, especially the 80s cars. I'll add modern street transmissions, modern street suspension, tires, and then add things like modern air, spark and fuel systems to truly try and optimize these older engines to see how well they can truly perform.
Love this, so true, take time with each build, learn how to tune and really dial in the cars. Loving this fresh content bruv, i now need a wheel to drift on!
Nice. I stopped adding intercoolers for weight but i think imma gonna start adding them again
How would you go for tuning a car with 600-750hp? I've been trying different stuff and can't really figure it out. I like drifting high horsepower cars
Wouldn’t…. No finesse or control. Like trying to race a thousand horsepower rear wheel drive mustang… more ≠ better when it comes to power.
Oh yeah also try to get your torque graph flatter, I found the consistent torque thru the rev range made smooth long drifts much easier. If ur using a wheel try 360 degrees in the software for the wheel. Enjoy
Try Snow Tire Compound. Max Neg camber on front wheels. Zero camber rear. 1.5 deg toe out on front. 0.5 deg toe in on rear.
Then put diff 100% on accel and decel.
Then play around with your gearing
Bro Thank You. I thought I was bad at drifting but when I tried out the tune and car I was slidin!
Used this idea to make a fairly mild street tune with drift tires on the Trueno, absolutely destroys.
I love low horse power builds with stock engines
Hey Cray G, can you update the previous builds please. Also when you tune, can you show us the specific numbers and tuning for each tab please. I love making your builds, to the extent of me making an exact replica in paint jobs and upgrades. Thank you Cray!
The Biggest Problem with this mentality is that drifting is really a personal preference thing, so you should copy his tunes and then dial them in for themself not try to learn how to drift his tunes
i actually did a similar build with the s13 lower A class, in fh4 and its BUTTERYY SMOOTH
This sums up why (after downloading and trying a few of the cars) I have had ZERO interest in the formula drift pack. The flow and steeze from these types of builds is the thing I fell in love with when I found out about drifting. Formula drift has none of the style and finesse of a classic build like this. Plz give us codes man!!!!
I gotta tune into one of your streams soon. Love the vids man have for a long time now.
Bro I literally had the same ideology about the race parts and I tried this same thing on my 240 and it feels CRAZY good it’s wild. This is a great video and my whole way of tuning has changed.
Great video. I learned some things
Damn just spent all my credits on a 240sx. Gonna try this build and fiddle with it though. Dope build!
Have you noticed the rev limiter change when you switch cams
It seems like the tuning in the format is on a different level compared to past forza's, I have been maxing out my cars but I get bored with them and honestly this kinda opened my eyes to why
found on twitch. recommended on youtube. good shit cray
Could you possibly make a video explaining what each upgrade changes and how it will affect the car. I’m still struggling on trying to figure out how to build cars. I don’t want to just download tunes and upgrades.
You just popped up in my recommended. Cool to see someone build a realistic drift car. Subscribed 🔥
Use sport trans. It’s the stock gearbox but allows final drive change which is simply the ring gear on the diff. Many people do rear gear changes. 🤘🏼💕
great video....since I found your page, my ability to drift in forza is quickly improving. Keep up the great work
Lol It’s funny seeing the community shift to “realistic” builds love it. Honestly the zenki just a open diff, oil cooler, headers, and cold air done.
I’m the same way when it comes to tuning/building my cars in Forza. I try to keep it as realistic as possible. Gained a sub!
This is how I built all my cars in fh4 and was really disappointed when I played fh5 and all these big long corners punish cars like this. That's especially hard with my driving style of being flat out all the time and using weight transfer only, that only works on short and tight corners. I don't even play fh5 anymore😒
Love this way of doing things, used to do this myself with Forza until FH4 got old and I started being lazy doing everything maxed out, i used to have the fastest Datsun 510 drag tune back on FM3 aswell, I've let it go for sure, but for FH5 I'm definitely gonna try and take more time with my builds, glad to see someone else with the same vision, earned a sub man wicked genuine content 👌
I notice you say "I have my psi maxed out front and the rear, as much wheel spin as possible". I recently did some testing and it appears that when you are fully aired down, the tires over heat and slide much more than when they are pumped up all the way. Even with damage turned completely off they still over heat and slide much more than being fully aired up. I was on snow tires though, not sure if the other tires are the same way or not. Just something to consider on your next build. 😎✌
I would recommend you and everyone else reverse your toe settings, may just be my preference but I prefer small toe out in front and even less toe in in rear for example, 0.5 out front 0.3 in rear is my baseline
You deserve millions of subs👌 found your channel last night, very helpful
Paused at 2:37 to comment this I personally will tend to go with the stock flywheel or just one up if the car is a bit slow revving for my taste but reason for this is I drift with manual and clutch so then I’m off throttle and on the clutch lets say for a entry the sport or race flywheel will rev fast but also return to idle fast with the stock fly wheel the car stays up in the rpms longer and I only have to modulate the throttle a little to stay in power before dumping the clutch
3:00 after seeing your tune setting just wanted to suggest something try making the rear 0.3 toe in and the front 0.5-0.8 toe out your already have your tire pressure super high so this alignment will help the car feel faster in drift and the toe out in front will help with initial flick in. Also side not I like putting the sport trans in to at least tune final drive it’s my idea of changing out a diff for a different ratio like a 4.10 vs a 3.73 ya know?
Final note I guess in forza I tend to mod the car in a way depending on how I would like the car as a drift car in real life like for example my SC300 it has a 1jz (rb26 but it’s forza so close enough sounds close enough too with the race exhaust) and that car makes around 450 which is not unrealistic it has a welded in it, street tires, 265 or 255 in the rear 235 in the front (I really common set up irl) car has 40psi up front and 25 out rear for the most grip, -5 camber front +0.1 in the rear (used the telemetry yo verify that under load the camber 0 out) I usually leave the sway bars alone I leave those stock I made the rear pretty soft and front pretty stiff also a common way of setting up big body Toyota and Lexus’s in real life. And the breaks I actually leave stock and gears in has 4.10 in it. This is generally how I set up all of my drift cars with varying differences depending on power goals, how old the car is (it may need a break up grade or engine swap) but the alignment and suspension set up is pretty very similar across all my cars
A class: street builds with 500-600hp and sport transmission because sequential sound doesn't fit them at all
S1 class: "pro" drift cars with 1000+hp sequential and all that
If you use sport trans, it’s just changing the rear diff gears. Like how lots of people change to a different ratio in real street drift when you weld the diff. That’s how real life gear tuning is unless it’s a million dollar race car
im going to give this a try because i never thought of street drifting this way!!!
The way I build my cars is I drive them stock first and see what it needs. Sometimes it's not much and low power drifting imo is way more fun than high power.
Love your content brother. Thank you!
i always love realistic tunes they make the game much better
Hey new sub seen 3 vids now I love the old school muscle meet, super chill and u quite funny love to join one of ur meets when I get my first pc for Christmas keep up the cool vids and thanks if u read all this 🤣
You make this game look fun🤦🏾♂️ Thank you💯🙏🏾
55 PSI ?!
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I prefer to run like 600hp with 29.5PSI usually, I’ll have to try low HP and high PSI in the tires I guess?!
Been watching your stuff for a couple days love the content homie keep it up 💯
I tend to run a race trans, but i’ll change my gearing to that of a CD009, and have a 450-525ps rb26 build on my zenki so i can run low thickness drift tyres. I find that to be a super easy touge setup👹
I feel like all the street upgrades are where you can build the realistic touges and tandem builds and allat
Interesting. I guess I need to rethink how I approach tuning. It is unrealistic to just go all out on every category. My head kinda goes to, “it’s available, you need it.” Like I’m not doing everything I can for my build unless I don’t take advantage. In reality, I’m doing too much. Thanks for this.
Props bro been trying some lower hp builds deff gonna go try this tonight
New here but street drift builds are the best. So much fun to throw a 300hp car around.
Cray teaching me something Everyday 🤞🏾❤️
Can you post the tune code? Im just starting with a wheel and could use it
A bit of a click-bait title as all of this sums up to: "I like to take it ez and RP a little". And that's absolutely fine 🙂
I could be wrong, but I don't expect this s14 street build to be very effective to keep drifting speeds up over a 100 km/h. And of course, this effectiveness doesn't matter much when you don't go for high scores or trying to win any online drifting.
It's all relative. Grip vs Power/torque. More power requires more grip.
Yk what for forza content creating I’m impressed your content is very enjoyable to watch!
I ALWAYS BUILD REALISTIC CARS IF U NOTICE DRIVING A CAR INSIDE ITS STOCK PLATEFORM AND CLASS IS WAY MORE FUN ALSO U CAN DRIFT ALOT OF THE CARS WIT RACE SUSPENSION AND I NEVER NOTICED HOW DIFFERENT THE CARS SOUND WITH EXHAUST AND NORMALLY THE STOCK EXHAUST SOUNDS THE BEST
Dope video Cray, love the realistic route.
I would still run sport trans because adjusting the final drive is like swapping the splines in the diff. i know people like to swap in 4.9 spines for the KA 240s which I believe is what the 240sx se is as it has a displacement of 2.39. I usually go for sound when it comes to exhaust when I build my "fun" cars
Not only was I there when you recorded it I called that it was going to be the start of a TH-cam video 🙌🏾
I been building my cars like this since fh4 it’s the only way I build cars now everything else gets boring and over complicated things
Ive been figuring out the same thing and going thru all my drift cars i already built and trying again
bro wtf??? im hella inspired now XD
I made a drift build with the abarth 131, it was a joke and had a Rasta livery with a big pot leaf. It's class b690 with 420hp. It quickly became my actual favorite drift build.
This is how all my cars are built
It’s okay to go over 300 hp but I wouldn’t go past 450 or 500
if you kept the 255s and put on a racing driveline, i wonder if it would feel the same?
*_looks at 1200hp drift Lambo Huracán_*
jokes aside, if high-power Formula Drift-like builds is your thing, the Huracán is actually a great chassis
im gonna try to make a realistic low/mid power drift build
Man so simple, not over the top👌💯
Aye I see the stock transmission in there cray g 👀
just started watching your videos. This one is FIRE. So many "drift build" videos always creating these insane 900hp+ monsters. Im a noob, i cant handle that crap lmao this was much more maintanable.
Thank you for this Cray!!
I’m so torn right now bro. I have to respect your drifts because you absolutely whip the hell outta everything you touch. But bro, you get like no power at all. Have you tried a higher horsepower tune? The lowest tune I have power wise is over 900 and that tends to be the sweet spot to let you flow through every section on the map.
nice video boy, i had the same setting not exactly 100% but started from forza 3
Most times, you honestly just need a welded dif and you’re good to go lol
should still have a max flywheel bcouse more responsive throttle and faster rev slighty
Ima have to try this
Aye don’t use the race oil and cooling if you look what it really doing I’m pretty sure it’s turning it to a dry sump system
This is dope g
Why have you got negative front toe and positive rear toe?
Hold tf up this build is too clean like that should slide so nicely i just tried it. This is my first time playing forza and i dont understand the building system in this game so its nice to actually play with a drift build that isnt an insane drift missile or just hard to control this build is perfect
Throw some bigger rims, sport trans with shorts gear ratio