Brooks Cascadia 17 Review. Here's Why Everyone Needs A Cascadia

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  • @justinpeterson4242
    @justinpeterson4242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've been running in the Utah Mountains with the Cascadia since the 6. I love these shoes for their durability and ability to handle everything I throw at them. They are durable and protective. With no issues, I've run on the slick rock of Moab or the shell rock up around Salt Lake. I've had friends get their shoes cut from sharp rocks or treads torn up, and mine keep on going. They are "beefy" and feel more like a running hiker than my road shoes, but they do exactly what they advertise. A trail shoe that you can run any terrain in and not have to worry if my shoe will make it. I've only got a few miles on the 17's, but I have liked the redesign. They are heavier than my 16's and will take a little getting used to. I did notice the small heel drop from the 15 to the 16 (I run mostly in the Glycerin for the road with an 11mm drop). I don't think they are "too stiff," but I'm also pounding the ground around 195lbs, so I like the balanced feeling of feeling the ground but not worrying about the cousin giving too much and losing my footing in jagged rocks.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your feedback! Yes, for the running you do, the Cascadia sounds like a great reliable choice 👍

  • @Mister_Phafanapolis
    @Mister_Phafanapolis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    These guys sound so high and chill, brooo.

  • @Andy-x3i8y
    @Andy-x3i8y 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I only have a measly 20 km on this shoe but they’ve all been on snow and ice. It performs very well on both.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought Brooks did an excellent job with the design of this outsole. I'd love to see it make its way over to other trail models in the future

  • @coreym3516
    @coreym3516 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    As a testament to Cascadia overall, I've seen videos of thru hikers on App Trail and PCT wearing Cascadias through most of the trails. Personally, I need more ankle support, but it says something about its versatility and durability.

  • @philipking3010
    @philipking3010 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Entertaining as always. Compulsive viewing despite having zero intension of buying this shoe. Looking forward to the Craft. (Merrell Agility Peak 5, hint hint)

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for watching! Will definitely make an announcement when we get the Merrell AP5 in for review!

  • @coreym3516
    @coreym3516 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sorry, last post (I swear I'm not sponsored), Brooks customer service is top notch. I had a pair of Caldera Appalachians where the seam was parting in the toe box. I sent them a picture and they sent me a new pair no questions asked. Unfortunately it was the next gen which is just too thick like a Hoka.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brooks does absolutely have some top notch customer service. When I was working in run specialty, they were always the best brand to work with to help process returns and the occasional defect

  • @darrylbenally5190
    @darrylbenally5190 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am at mile 200 in my Cascadia 17s and they feel more like a traditional shoe versus a high cushion or carbon plated super shoe. The problem I have with high cushion/super shoes is the tendency to role my ankles on technical and rocky trails. Whereas the Cascadia 17s seem to hug the terrain better preventing ankle injuries. High cushion/super shoes do help propel me uphill. The issue I have is the muscles in my calves do not get the full workout and depend too much on the high cushion/super shoe for the push. When I run uphill in the Cascadia 17s, I feel my calves getting the workout that it needs. It does help me to have the Cascadia 17s in my shoe rotation. It all depends on how you use them.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      100% agree with all of this. The Cascadia is definitely the far safer choice on more technical terrain. I'm also a proponent of having non plated shoes for most training days. Plated shoes do weird things to the ankles and calves when utilized too much

    • @runzization
      @runzization 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ConversationalPaceif you haven't looked already please check out the Asics FujiSpeed 2!
      I'm a bigger runner(180lbs) but this AFS2 feels like a suspension bridge with carbon plate. A lot of people thought Catamount v1 was too harsh AFS2 feels like an upgrade to this Catamount v1 as it's recoil is very good. Asics curved last helps you pronate and ability to run on lateral terrain. It's worth it enough tho for "asicsgrip"

  • @redvries9546
    @redvries9546 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm getting this shoe for pure hiking. Was a good choice for the rim to rim Grand Canyon hike which I'll be doing in October.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely a fantastic choice for something like R2R!

  • @DTUFINOPhotography
    @DTUFINOPhotography หลายเดือนก่อน

    got the GTX version of the 18's.... they are pretty great use them for the gym, running and everywhere.

  • @coreym3516
    @coreym3516 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've been running the Cascadia since version 12. I still wear a pair of v13 as an everyday shoe. I've ran the Calderas but find them way too high for a trail shoe. On road I run Asics Nimbus Lite and Brooks Glycerin. My only complaint about the Cascadia is the weight and breathability, so it's good to see them in a slightly lighter version. I'm torn between the Salomon Sense Ride 5 and the Cascadia 17. Would love to know what others think!

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Sense Ride 5 is more flexible and a bit softer. There's also not as robust of a rock plate, so you are going to feel the ground more and get a bit less protection. On the other hand, it's a bit lighter and more nimble feeling.

  • @MartyPape78
    @MartyPape78 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do some very technical rocky trail hikes in Arizona. These and the 16 sure seem like a solid choice.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, absolutely! Thanks for watching!

  • @gsabella4
    @gsabella4 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review. I'm looking to upgrade from my Altra Timp 4's. I'm in between the Timp 5 and the Cascadia 17.... torn!!!!

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've heard the Timp 5 is a pretty massive upgrade from the Timp 4. The new materials and upgraded outsole would have me drawn to that, but if you are looking for a shoe that's a little firmer and burlier, this Cascadia is worth checking out

  • @palmvalleyinvestments
    @palmvalleyinvestments 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's a lightweight sub for a hiking boot. In Florida it does VERY well and very lightweight compared to boots

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      100% agree there. There aren't many cases anymore where I opt for a full boot as opposed to a rugged trail runner.

  • @rmsrmsrmsrms
    @rmsrmsrmsrms 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the velcro cover pulls up, that's odd; so it would stick up over the rear of the collar when wearing a gaiter....wonder if you'd notice it when running... Also I've always thought sandwiching a rockplate between two midsole layers was preferable to putting it directly against the outsole, to allow the midsole space to wrap around rocks, as well as to give better vibration absorption (just spitballing, i have no hard data)

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh wow that's a very good point. I hadn't thought of that when I lifted it up. Geez, hopefully it doesn't get in the way or that would have been a massive oversight!

  • @michaelpalm2210
    @michaelpalm2210 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the version 16 GTX version and they are superb winter trail runners. The traction is like knobby tires on a truck. Ice snow rain streams puddles, Nothing can stop you! I also hike mountains in them. I would not run road races in them. I would not run cross country races either , They are bulky built like tank all terrain shoes. Built for protection and traction …NOT Built for Speed! They are fantastic hikers as well, I own 2 pairs and use them alot for my off road adventures. One of my favs

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the feedback! I could totally seeing the GTX version being awesome when paired with this outsole

    • @prashanthnarayan4170
      @prashanthnarayan4170 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for adding this bit! This is a similar reason why I was looking at the Cascadia 17 - hiking in possible wet/ cold weather. Was undecided between the GTX and ordinary versions. Now, I'm leaning towards the GTX version. Appreciate your feedback. 🙌🏻

  • @UnmannedExplorations
    @UnmannedExplorations 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So I need a good lightweight shoe for backpacking weights through mountain terrain with 60 pound packs. I tried the speedgoats, lone peaks, and brooks cascadia 17. The cascadia is built for backpacking and the stability is bar none. I got tired of lugging around my Lowa Renegades on hotter days and now the brooks is basically all I wear lol!

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100%!! Yes, I totally agree, I much prefer this Cascadia for backpacking instead of any hiking boot. I also enjoy hiking in the Cascadia more than running in it too

  • @dewaynescott5114
    @dewaynescott5114 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The end commentary can be summoned up “ a side piece” 😂😂

  • @scherry2900
    @scherry2900 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm really happy with the Catamount 2.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am as well. The build of the Catamount 2 is much more in my lane for what I prefer in a trail runner

  • @binaryanthems
    @binaryanthems 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    22:33 best $80 I’ve ever spent on shoes

  • @gregeberhardt1711
    @gregeberhardt1711 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This shoe is $65 in Australia atm…..great review and will go buy a pair. Plan on hiking, too old and fat to run haha.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's too good of a price to pass up! Especially if you plan to use it for hiking, as I like this shoe better for hiking than running.

    • @urgonnaluvit
      @urgonnaluvit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      where did you find it for $65?

  • @falltekhe
    @falltekhe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a great review. I am just now retiring my Cascadia 15s. I also had the Altra Lone Peak 6 in my rotation - which I’ve also retired. I want to get into the more cushioned shoes and was looking into the Altra Olympus 5 and the Hoka Speedgoat 5. Which one would you recommend? Keep in mind that I loved the wide toe box from my Altras. But I know that Hoka has wide options also.
    PS: representing Ashland, OR and the Rogue Valley in general.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching! If you enjoy the wide, square shaped toe box, then the Olympus is going to be the better choice. The speedgoat 5 wide is a wider shoe everywhere, but still doesn't have the square toe box. For most, the toe box shape is good enough, but in comparison to the LP6, it might still not quite be enough room. Ashland, OR represent!

  • @polecats03
    @polecats03 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a 30 mile in one day hike / race coming up. Would you recommend these? I tried the new Speedgoats and the sole cut into my arches.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They definitely could be a nice option! This Cascadia doesn't have as much arch feel as the Speedgoat. It is going to feel a decent amount firmer, due to the denser midsole foam, which will help with support and stability, but you will lose some cushion. For some, it's a very worthwhile tradeoff!

  • @UrbanSniper308
    @UrbanSniper308 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do these have a decent arch? I have been wearing the support version of Brook's shoes, but there is not a support version of this shoe.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is a reasonably supportive shoe but in a different way that most road shoes are. Where many road shoes will build up under the arch or use a denser material, you don't see that in many trail shoes, because that could actually be less stable when the ground under the foot is uneven. Instead they will use firmer foams and wider platforms to enhance the stability all around the foot for a more even amount of stability on the trail. So these don't have a ton of arch, but I would still consider them a pretty stable trail shoe. Hope this helps!

  • @themarineman
    @themarineman 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Saucony excursion !!

  • @mtnrnnr107
    @mtnrnnr107 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first trail shoe was the Cascadia 13 in this special PCT edition color way. Perhaps gotta try them again (in newer form)

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I loved when Brooks did the long trail collabs on their Cascadia models. I've seen some pop up on ebay for well over their MSRP 😶. To me, this new Cascadia still retains many of the classic Cascadia traits! Thanks for watching!

  • @grennangoeshiking
    @grennangoeshiking 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m late to the party but my first pair of 16’s got 800 miles on them. I got minor blowout at said point, but I think I broke the plate first.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Understandable for that kind of wear for 800 miles. That's a ton of use!

  • @colinmcc8564
    @colinmcc8564 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review, seems like some really good use cases. What are some road shoes that perform a similar function of keeping the effort easy, without too much cushion? I like alternating between cushion and firm, but most of my firm shoes have rockers or make me want to go fast, like the Saucony Kinvara.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching! My go to road shoe that make my feet feel like they're working the right amount has always been the Brooks Launch. I know they advertise it as an uptempo shoe, but I've always used it as the road shoe that keeps me grounded in a world of max stack, plated, rockered shoes. Nike Pegasus as well. Lately, I've really been running in the Altra FWD Experience. Review for that coming soon!

  • @berry5954
    @berry5954 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bought the shoes based on this review.
    Sending them back. Bloody hell, if I want a dead shoe I take the speedgoat 5.
    Now the Caldera 6.. that is an amazing shoe, beating the Acics Trabuco Max 2.
    And bring Finn back, the energy of you both makes it the best channel

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Rest assured, Finn will always be a part of the full reviews. Our conversation is my favorite part about this whole thing!

  • @Tokoroegao
    @Tokoroegao 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I own a pair of ancient Cascadia from like 2011 or something...

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably not too different from this most recent Cascadia! 😆

  • @RickyDonoho
    @RickyDonoho 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to see you guys take on the Saucony Xodus Ultra 2.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed, would love to test that shoe out! I will be at The Running Even in Austin, TX at the end of the month and am hoping to make a preview video of the 2024 Saucony line of shoes. I'm curious to see if the Xodus will get an update!

  • @ChrisLena
    @ChrisLena 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am debating between getting either the Cascadia 16 or 17, if anyone has tried both please let me know which is better and why. Little insight on me, I'm a long time Brooks Cascadia user and had the Cas 2's, and 13's and ran & hiked the hell out of them. They are finally done and I'm lookicn for some new Cas's. Im not a pro runner, I just love trail running and hiking and need a shoe that can do both and will last long. I loved my 13s and looking for something simular. Thanks

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I would say that the 16 is going to be closer feeling to the 13, as the 17 got more running friendly, and became less of a shoe that really excels for hiking. With that said, perhaps those are changes that would benefit you. Fortunately, the ethos of the Cascadia hasn't changed at all over the years. It's still a firmer, durable trail tank!

    • @michaelpalm2210
      @michaelpalm2210 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 16;s are selling for less than 100 bucks now. Thats a great value.

    • @ChrisLena
      @ChrisLena 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelpalm2210 I ended up going with the 17s bc I was not able to find a proper size & color in the 16s...I ran with the 17s once andddd they are dope. They are light and grippy, bottom track feels like that of a MTB tire, Havent done any hiking with them yet, plan on soon to see how they do, but, overall pleased with my purchase so far 👍, thanks for the input ya'll

    • @Swimmer47
      @Swimmer47 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have the 16 and 17 and find the 17 to be stiffer and prefer the 16. I can run more in the 16. Both shoes are good and do well on various terrain, including rocky trails.

  • @stevenshorten6184
    @stevenshorten6184 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gaiter loops are often an afterthought by designers.

  • @nadernikmorad73
    @nadernikmorad73 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is the difference between this and cascadia 18 gtx thanks

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The biggest difference is that any of the 'gtx' shoes have a waterproof upper, where if that isn't noted, it's a fully breathable upper. So the regular Cascadia 17 and 18 will be more breathable and comfortable fit, but the gtx will keep all the moisture out. Hope this helps!

    • @nadernikmorad73
      @nadernikmorad73 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ConversationalPace thank you

  • @guilletjean-jacques5107
    @guilletjean-jacques5107 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    je les avaient commandé , des que je les aient recu ......je les aient renvoyée , ce n est plus la cascadia que nous avons connu , ma derniere cascadia etait la 6 , ca remonte a plus de 15 ans , elle etait tres bien , mais elle etait deja entrain de changée , il faut revenir a la cascadia d origine .

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Qu’est-ce qui vous a tant plu dans les anciennes versions du Cascadia ? (Translated with Google)

  • @zacharygarner9425
    @zacharygarner9425 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Took one look at the foam up close and said no

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's definitely pretty old school, and this Cascadia is one of the few shoes that can still get away with that. Thanks for watching!

  • @SpaklesDr
    @SpaklesDr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clickbait title AND a Hoka endorsement lol.

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did the title work? 😂 and I definitely endorse Hoka. They make some great shoes!

  • @raymond.caldera
    @raymond.caldera 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    caldera>cascadia

  • @guilletjean-jacques5107
    @guilletjean-jacques5107 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Elles étaient pas construit comme un tank , la cascadia 17 n a plus rien a voir avec les premières cascadia , qui étaient souple , légère , on avait l impression de voler en toute sécurité ....a présent on ne vole plus .....et le design est pas terrible .

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Avez-vous trouvé une chaussure de remplacement adaptée à l'ancienne Cascadia ? (Translated with Google)

    • @guilletjean-jacques5107
      @guilletjean-jacques5107 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ConversationalPace vous allez peu être trouver ça bizarre , et même si on accroche nbest pas au rendez vous , depuis 2 ans je cours avec toutes les chaussures de la gamme Niketrail , et j adores les TK8 , les WH8 et les zegama ....., manque sur les zegama une accroche digne de ce nom , mais k ai appris que ça sera le cas sur les zegama 2 , quand aux wh8 , l accroche est très bonne .

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Certainement un peu différent du Cascadia, mais si vous l'aimez et que ça marche, alors c'est génial ! Zegama 2 sera un excellent ajout l'été prochain. (Translated with Google)

  • @PlasticAssasin8
    @PlasticAssasin8 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went to look at these last weekend , i was really interested in them because of the reviews where everyone raves about them.
    Unfortunately i was disappointed with the feel of them.
    IMO the lugs are to flimsy and will wear out prematurely.
    This is after wearing speedgoat 5's for the last few hundred Km's where they are pretty much bullet proof.
    I wanted to like the Cascadia 17 but they just didn't have the "vibe" i was expecting.
    The speedgoats have lasted me almost 10 months, id say the Cascadia is a 5-6 month shoe if they even get that far

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is definitely the most spaced out lug pattern I've ever seen on a Cascadia, and I agree, will also probably the least durable Cascadia outsole. It's quite a bit firmer than the Speedgoat. From Brooks, the Caldera would be a much closer comp to try out

  • @dewaynescott5114
    @dewaynescott5114 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The end commentary can be summoned up “ a side piece” 😂😂

    • @ConversationalPace
      @ConversationalPace  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      a side piece that doesn't make any of the other shoes feel jealous though 😂