Car makes Helicopter Noise (Parked for Years) while driving & NASTY Vibrations! Ford Taurus 3.0
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Mr. Ray, a few days ago I told you, you inspired me to change the coils and spark plugs on my 05 Ford focus, when I pulled the first coil there was oil in the spark plug tube so I called a shop to fix the gaskets but it would be $260 since I've watched you for like five years I told myself I could do it for only cost of parts. Happy to say I got er done. Ha, pretty cool when you've never done such things. Thank you for the knowledge and the inspiration. You friggin Rock!
I'm old enough to remember the old Chilton manuals. This is one good thing I can say about the internet age, chances are real good you can find a step-by-step video for almost any repair you want to try yourself, to keep from being robbed in the service department.
The old 'Gregory's' manuals were a well used resource when in my 20s. Kept all my vehicles going with their help. Saved me more than once, from my old Holdens to my slightly later VWs, the books all had well greased pages, especially in the plug and point gap section! Meant I could keep old beasts running.......
This man inspired me to enter the field after a previous career. Nothing but success since.
Good job, Patrick!
That’s awesome !! And you saved good money as well as knowing it actually got done
I'm watching this video at the breakfast table. My wife says, "Are you watching Madman Ray."😅
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Based on your analysis there's no reason why you wouldn't fix this vehicle as you stated it is paid for and it would be a whole lot less expensive than a monthly car payment for years. Informative video as always thank you
It's got 200 grand on the odometer....a much newer car would be more dependable and reliable. It's definitely worth saving, but it's not a primary vehicle.
@@deplorablelibertarianhow so 200k isn't anything on a car if it's taken care of. Cars haven't gotten more reliable in recent years. More complex yes
Just needs a bad job from Maaco
It's worth saving if you quote and do the work, other shops would be 2x or 3x your price at least.
As a second vehicle, I could see saving this Taurus. I wonder if spending a couple thousand dollars on the maintenance it needs is worth it though; it wouldn't surprise me if the owner passed on saving it.
Well if it's making helicopter noises it can be used for the morning traffic reports.
Paint fails on cars that are just sitting because it's constantly baking. If the car is being driven the paint has a chance to cool down multiple times. A good example would be, if you blow even slightly cooler air over something in an oven, it'll take much longer to cook than something that doesn't have air blowing across it. Another factor is that pollen and debris bake into paint and ruins the clear coat if the car just sits. Driving it will help blow off contaminants.
Except that with convection ovens, that is not the case, though to be fair, the air is as hot as the oven cavity itself as convection ovens will blow air over the food, to speed up the cooking process.
@@johnhpalmer6098 that's why I said cooler air. Convection ovens are using hot air to evenly cook.
That, and when people simply regard their car as another appliance and never wax it. People from Flori-Duh do not care at all about their driving and put about as much effort into is as they do when they operate their microwave oven! And most people in Flori-Duh know what car wax is, and that is about it~
@@Flies2FLL Not just Florda. (That's how a friend of mine says it) MANY people across the globe do little or no maintenance.
@@billmilosz Yes.That was my point; Why is Ray working on a pile of shit like this?
@@RainmanRaysRepairs remembers that the CUSTOMER brought the car there for a specific complaint, so he noticed the wheel bearings and other things, but, as a good mechanic, he fixed the CUSTOMERS COMPLAINT FIRST and then suggested the other needed repairs, probably in order of importance or safety first.
Got in an accident and needed a car asap. A friend sold me his oldest daughter's 2003? Sable w/225k on it, ran great. Well maintained! I drove it for 8 months, up to 250k! Wanted to save it for my son, who was only 14 at the time.
After I got a newer SUV, the friend borrowed back, so his youngest daughter could get a job. She said the car "died" and couldn't get a job. (?)
Got a call from a junk yard a few weeks later and they applied for a title and realized it wasn't hers. She "pawned" it for $500 (for m3th).
I went and bailed it out and drove it home. She had beat the crap out of it... wasn't worth fixing it. Shop wanted $2k. 😢
And my friend disowned his daughter and took her kids away, since she was now living in a tent in the woods.
Ya can't find stupid....
no good deed goes unpunished
I used to work at a service station in NC back in the eighties and part of our client base were elderly widows with cars from the sixties and seventies that were parked under carports and they looked practically brand new with ultra low mileage and drove like new cars from those eras. One exception was one widow's car. It was obvious that part of the car got direct sunlight on one quadrant and the paint job on said quadrant was a little chalky however as part of our yearly tune-up and subsequent car wash maintenance we buffed out the paint job rendering it practically new looking again. It was a seventies ford Maverick with a V8.
Maybe that's what I Need--to be Buffed Out...lol...
Waiting Part 3 where those issues are getting fix.
Cheaper than a car payment. It’s got another 100k left in her. Thanks for the video 👍
Still a good car and worth rebuilding. Better than a car payment.
KBB used price is $2600 - $3000. The repair cost would be around is worth or 1/10th it's purchase price.
I saw a video that reported congress passed a law, beginning with the 2026 model year, all cars sold in the US will have to have remote shutdown so law enforcement can kill your engine with something like an OnStar application. Who is going to pay good money for that? I'm not, that's for sure.
When technology creates a tool, government always finds a way to use it as a weapon.
I watch all of your channels including the wife units channel that's how great of a person I think you are you are worth watching
Totalmente de acuerdo. 😬
Absolutely this Taurus is worth saving. Taurus's are good cars. We bought our '03 new; it was mama's car, so she babied it. My wife is the type that if she ever drove 36 in a 35 she'd have a guilty conscious. By the time we sold it in 2015 it only had 42k on it. All we ever did to it was a heater motor, a crank position sensor, 1 transmission service and regular oil changes. Sold it to an old school teacher, who got like-new for $3000. I was very happy it didn't end up going to some teenager who wanted to make a "race car" out of it. But many times I've had seller's remorse and wish I had it back.
When parked, heat builds up on the surfaces cooking the paint. When moving, the airflow over the vehicle has a cooling effect protecting the paint a bit.
Exactly what I was going to say.
True, but not complete! Standing still, also the volume under the hood builds up heat - a double whammy, says me…
Also... when cars are being driven, they're usually washed at least occasionally (one would hope). 🤓
yep, my Volvo S40, paint even flaking off on South side while algae growing - on N-side seals.
@@ageens I daily my Older S60 and its 18 years old I garage the poor thing and still some bumper/trim clear coat flakes off anyway even with proper care/waxing
The first number on the tire size is not the tread width, it is the section width when mount on the specified measuring rim. Section width being the widest part of the tire.
Given its age, and a few wearing items o2 sensir aside, it is most definitely worth repairing. The power train is stout, some new gaskets at some point will cure the valdeze underneath. For the cost of a monthly payment, this definitely worth repairing, and in your capable hands, will be done correctly. Enjoy the rest of your weekend good sir.🙏💜
I learn a bunch from this type video. Well I remember when I didn't have two kickles to rub together and raising a family when transportation was always 'make do'.
Ray, you inspire people with your videos. Someone changed a head gasket themselves, in the comments. That is something I love to see. You are one of my favorite TH-camrs, as you make this kind of work feel approachable by the layman. I am not even a automotive professional, or even an aficionado, but your videos never fail to entertain. I live seeing you grow with your new shop as well, congradulations on your apparent success!
The owners of the Taurus will appreciate your inspection and evaluate whether or how much to fix on it. Some wouldn't put any more into it, others would - given how much a replacement car would cost. Thanks for another of your safety inspections - nice to see how one is done right.
Ray, it is your shop and your channels, at least as long as the bills get paid. Do it your way and enjoy yourself.
Once the customer lets you fix the things that need fixing, you may want to recommend a license plate frame that says:
"Don't laugh, Its paid for."
I would love to see a Mr. and Mrs. Unit podcast showing the other side of this line of work
Hi Ray, another great video. Regarding the paint fade on parked vehicles vs running vehicles, that is due to the fact that running vehicles are moving thus the exterior temperature is lower than the parked vehicles. Also the sun is not stationary, therefore not " beating down" as on the parked one. There.....that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Finally , I was able to contribute to one of your videos. I am not an automotive technician but I have been a subscriber of your channel from the beginning. Thank you for all you do!
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June 11th wife and I vacation in St Petersburg FL. Wife said I should drive by say Hi to Ray and Lauren. No visitors I told her.
In 2003 I bought a '97 Ford Aerostar minivan in Orlando as an airport car. 86k miles for $3000 and the same "Toreador red". It was a former Avis rental car and had repaint work on the drivers side behind the door, but I didn't car. It cleaned up VERY well, and I finally sold it to a contractor who had worked on my house for $500. It looked great when I sold it to him; 6 months later it looked like hell! In any case, the only repairs I did on it was a replacement radiator which I did myself for $60, and a fuel pump for $400 since you have to drop the tank. That was powered by the same Vulcan V6, which is bulletproof but ALWAYS leaks oil. This was a VERY good car, despite their reputation for transmission problems. I changed my transmission fluid when I bought it and every 30k miles afterwards and it just RAN.
Built Ford Tough!
Definitely worth saving. No car payment. Basic transportation.
Bit of delay maintenance, a nice wash, and it will make a great vehicle. the interior parts other than the roof lining you probably could get from Eric at a good price.
There's a good old saying I heard - { Just because it's old dosnt mean you throw it away } the older vehicles have one advantage in where the computer just runs the engine and Nothing else.
Much simpler design... If you say that the 3.0 liter engine was a great reliable power plant then thats great to hear.
Best explanation of tire info I've seen...
Thanks Ray...
It is always to me to keep it running as long as I can to save money, also buy something that you have to have a lot of test equipment to find out the problems.Also fix my self. Thank's Ray for doing a great job on all the videos, say Hi to the your better half for me .
Last time I bought 4 tires for our car, I was fortunate enough to get all 4 made on the same week of the same year. 😁
Hey Ray, top notch video as always! Thank you to everyone there!
When cars are parked for long periods, the sun always hits the paint in the same spots, pretty much eroding it over time, while other areas may constantly be in the shade, depending on the landscape.
That car has held up really well. The interior is in better shape than it has any right to be. I bet you if you buffed that paint, gave it a good wax job, it would look quite OK. Not like new, but much better. Great daily driver or spare car. Worth putting some dough into- not a TON but some maintenance
I had one many years ago with rear facing back seat. Quite the RUST bucket.
Thats so true its paid for. I have a 2003 caravan what i have done is figure out a mid range payment and do repair or preventative maintenance.
Ours did that once. It was the back tire. Took a long time to find the problem. Mechanics kept looking at me like I was crazy when I asked what would make it sound like a helicopter 😂
Really love Ray’s videos!! Just want to add my comments on the main reason paint degrades, especially on vehicles left unattended outside for long periods. For reference, I was the marketing manager for automotive appearance chemicals (think of car wax as one of those products) for a company that produced products for both consumers as well as for the automobile manufacturers and paint companies. First, the heat from the sun combined with heat from the engine is not a main contributor to paint degradation. The actual cooling effect of driving would only lower the surface temperature a nominal amount. Automotive paints are designed to be much more robust than to be susceptible to a nominal temperature difference. Note that vehicles left outside in cold weather areas suffer paint damage as much as in hot weather areas so the cold did not help protect them. This also does not explain why paint degrades from the roof and trunk area at roughly the same time the paint on the hood begins to go (even more perplexing when considering the hood usually has a heat shield, too). Second, if it were mainly heat related, the paint in the engine bay would be the first area to be damaged. Most engine bays are painted the same color as the exterior of the car although they may not have the clear coat that gives the exterior paint a glossy finish. This paint is exposed to the heat of the engine directly yet it hangs on indefinitely. Third, the primary reason for paint failure, especially on clear coat finishes, is owner neglect. This surely applies to a vehicle that is left outside for long periods of time. All upward facing surfaces (notice the paint on the vertical surfaces may fade but almost never flakes off like the flat surfaces) tend to collect a broad range of contaminants such as tree sap/mist, bird droppings, rail dust (iron filings from trains riding over train tracks), jet fuel exhaust, automotive exhaust, and a whole host of other “fallout”. Just washing a vehicle helps to remove this. Paints can “dry out” so replacing/replenishing the oils in the paint can help extend the life of the paint. This is done by polishing, which is not waxing. Other than hard core enthusiasts, most people do not want to polish their vehicle then wax the vehicle (polish adds gloss and shine, wax protects but actually reduces shine slightly . . . To a well trained eye!), so most car wax companies offer a “combo”/1-step product that combines these steps into one. They do not provide the “best” results, but it is more than good enough for most folks to care for their paint. People are not going to wash or wax a vehicle that is left outside with no intent to use it. It’s the fact that people use, and occasionally wash, and may even polish/wax, the vehicle that allows the paint to fare better than those vehicles that are abandoned to the elements. (Note: In the early 90s, a major US automaker launched a campaign stating that their paint never had to be waxed. Our company advised them that this was not a good idea as paint needs at least a minimal amount of care. They didn’t listen, their customers did not put much effort into caring for their paint, they incurred damaged paint - mostly hazing/fading then eventually cracking and peeling, then the automaker dropped the campaign!)
My guess on the paint is that when the vehicle is driven, you're going under trees, parking in he shade from time to time and that may lower the total amount of time exposed to UV a meaningful amount. My other guess would be that if the car is parked, it's getting hit by the sun the same way over and over; same amount of time each day and at the same angles each day. When you're driving, the angle of the sun is constantly changing and that may have an effect on paint survival.
Car paint fades more due to UV damage when a vehicle is not driven because the protective layers, such as clearcoat and wax, degrade faster without regular exposure to the elements.To prevent car paint fading when a vehicle is not driven regularly, it’s essential to maintain proper washing techniques using gentle products like pH-balanced non-abrasive car wash soaps
Definetely worth fixing!
Definitely worth repairing.
Ray needs his rotor turning machine back.
Nice video Ray. Plenty of great informative tuition. Thanks buddy.
Another amazing video, Ray.. Looking forward to your next one..
Thank you Ray!
brilliant diagnosive video ray
It's great to see old cars having money spent on them, my nissan pulsar is 35 years old and drives like the first day I bought it. Great vid Ray. Aussie Graham.
Amazing video bro
yay! part 3!
We drove a Taurus wagon back in the day my wife and I really liked that car. BUT, when things started to fail it went down hill really quickly. Traded it fast before it emptied my bank account
It's refreshing to watch your videos. I have extreme anxiety with taking my car to any mechanic because of all the horror stories that have been told about mechanics messing with your car just so you end up coming back to give them more money. I do all of my own fluid changes and things like air filter, plugs, etc but some jobs I can't do myself due to lack of proper facilities and specialty tools to do them in. Your videos make me feel a little better about taking my cars to mechanics although I'm still a bit paranoid.
Thanks for another great video....
I had several of these wagons when the kids were young. They were a great car and the kids loved to sit in the rear jump seats that face backwards.
I love your show you give great advice
Great video and as always thanks for the awesome good content have a good one ray
I am soooo glad to hear that 3.0 V6 is a good engine. I am buying 2003 Ranger Edge with that engine. It's a one owner and very well cared for. I am a GM guy and this will be my second Ford, I had a 80's Ford truck with a 302. It was a very good truck.
My Taurus went 26 years and 450000 kilometers, it needed a head gasket and many this and that repairs over time but original engine and transmission.
It was 1990, the plugs were to be changed every 2 years but transmission fluid drained and filled yearly.
It had 90 oil changed between 1990 and 2016.
The condition of the fuel filter can vary. Someone that buys from gas stations with clean tanks and a clean supply chain can have filters last a long time.
On the other hand, my M880 in the Army (60's Dodge pickup I think) had a filter plug up completely. While waiting for a new filter, we flushed it. Looked like mud.
I really appreciate these diagnostic walk throughs. They have taught me a lot about troubleshooting my own cars. Please keep it up!
It's definitely worth saving in my book. 💯
Ray, Good Job
I would fix this car. It may get a bit pricey but this is why one does not delay maintenance. There is a lot of life left in this Taurus. I would have a detailer look at the paint and see what could be done to make the car look more appealing. If the paint job is too far gone, I would consider repainting the car. I remember seeing these Ford Taurus's and always thought it was a weird design.
Here is a comment, for the Helicopter, and the algorithm.
A parked vehicles paint heats up more under the sun because its stationary and captures the full force of the suns heat on that particular panel its focusing on. A moving vehicle will at some point turn left or right and another panel will the receive rays, also air flow over panels as the car is moving reduces the panel temp.
I have a 2010 mazda 3 diesel with 287,000 Ks (178,333 miles) that other than stone chips in the paint it shows no damage such as peeling clear coat and it is charcoal grey as well.
The only time these regular maintenance items should not be done is if there basically is an issue with transmission, engine or motor that is costly more than one can pay for a car. For 201,000 + miles on it and it being in such good condition considering, the car is worth it. With the problems of purchasing a car today, this is worth keeping.
I say is 100% worth saving.... New cars are just too expensive. Great video Ray!!
Thank you Ray for this inspection walk-around, I really enjoy these types of videos since I get a vicarious glimpse into your "is it worth repairing" analysis -- I agree that this one is. My dad had the Mercury Sable version of the rare(ish) wagon body which he leased for a couple of years, same color combo as this Taurus -- Matador Red over Parchment -- and it was an excellent vehicle for its intended purpose of being a comfortable adequately-powered ride, decent gas mileage, and able to swallow enough contents with the seats folded without having to step up to the larger truck-based Explorer (this was prior to the SUV popularity explosion). That shade of red looked fantastic when it was properly maintained, had a glow to it which gave it a quasi-candy appearance. The cloth seats were good quality and provided ample support on long drives. It's a shame this one wasn't looked after a lot better, hopefully the owner will agree to having you bring it all the way back to a safe and reliable condition without breaking his/her bank (the missing interior trim in that popular Parchment color shouldn't be too hard to find online or at Florida salvage yards). 👍
definately worth saving
You sir are thee man ! Keep up the great work 💯👌🏼😎
thanks Ray
Definitely worth repairing
Air flow cools the paint.
Afternoon Ray
Great diagnosis and fix on the previous videos. If anyone has any similar type of issue, worth watching a second or third time.
The rags you find under the hood are for checking the oil and transmission fluid
Ray you need to check out the strut pockets on the front end because they rust out first and you wont know it until you hit a hard pot hole and the car makes a un controlled turn.Surprise surprise suprise says Gomer Pyle look out now.GO RAY GO
Maybe Temperature is the answer Ray...
The driven car has fast moving air cooling the paint surface, while the parked car has to rely on wind conditions to achieve any cooling of the paint surface.
Having been in the situation where I had to buy the best "beater" I could afford and run it till the repair costs outdid the cost of a new "beater", I'd say the brakes, suspension and tyres would place the Taurus right on the cusp of junk or fix for me.
Cheers Eric E
I would keep it as a work vehicle Ray. I want to get a work vehicle myself to use for my carpenters wood and tools without worrying about scratches on a newer car
I agree Ray. It's worth fixing now that they already put a rebuilt transmission in it. I'm not sure I would have dropped 2-3 grand on the transmission without a full list of other possible issues though. If they only came to you first!
I would fix the bad stuff and smile every time I drove by the bank!
That thing sure is beat up and not even that old. Crazy
Notification squad Have a Great Weekend!!🔥🔥🔥
I've done pad slaps before when I was broke. I saved money for new rotors and pads and then did it correctly. Like Ray said sometimes you got to do what you got to do.
The wind cools the paint
I would love to hear the history of tire sizing measurements sometime.
The no rust condition of these vehicles make them great beater work vehices,a little work ad years of cheap transportation.
Between the shop, commuting and daily editing time, how much are you really off duty?
Awesome my card been sitting almost 2 years now. I'm hoping I can get her back on the road. After seeing this I think I can🫣😂
Definitely worth saving. As you said, it is paid off. To reiterate your slogan, Buy once, Cry once.
Possibly, the paint on driven cars gets washed and typically waxed to some extent and dirt isn't getting baked into the paint
I still wouldn't mind driving and old Taurus wagon around. They were decent cars and they were everywhere in the 90s
We only got a quick, partial look at the tires, but maybe the left front can be rotated to the left rear to replace the tire with the bald spot. Right rear looked pretty good, so they might get by just buying two tires for the front. Of course, you are a better judge of that, Ray.
New wheel bearings all the way around, new lower ball joints and end links up front, new pads and rotors, and an alignment. Oh, and a new expansion tank, fuel filter. Maybe $1500 and while she ain't pretty, she'll be good for another 50,000 miles!
I think the main reason paint goes bad on cars that are parked a long time is because cars that are driven at least occasionally get washed and maybe even waxed, while dust, dirt, tree sap, bird crap, pollen, and pollutants settle onto the parked car etching into the paint. If that Taurus were buffed out and given a ceramic coating, it would probably look pretty good from 15 or 20 feet! 😎
Fun fact Ray, it has rear facing 3rd row seating
Like I always say, "If one cannot fix their own car, one should have a new car with warranties." That being said, every so often there comes a car that's worth getting fixed. This is one of them.
Oh for heck’s sake Ray, it’s Saturday! (When I’m watching this) You’re EDUCATING me, on a WEEKEND.
I didn’t expect to gain learning (I never got from my dad) unexpectedly >.< I’m NOT paying.
With the car moving forward all of the time the paint has a chance to cool down as opposed to one that has been sitting in the sun most of the time.
I'd love to own that wagon. It is still in good enough condition to put the money into it.
74th! Great Saturday afternoon Ray,Lauren and Dave, your loyal new employee. A close friend wanted to buy one of those cars in the early 2000. Luckily I talked him out of it. He bought a Lincoln instead. P.O.S. in my opinion. I saw a car like this one used to raise money for a family by selling tickets to have a sledge hammer and letting them take turns smashing it into oblivion. Same colour and everything! Again, just my opinion. Roger in Pierre South Dakota
Had a side hustle cleaning cars.
Red paint on Florida cars seems to oxidize differently than other colors.
I gave the car a wash then a light cleaning with soft scrub or other non abrasive cleaner.
Washed again then a good hand wax and it looked great.
Only works if it not down to the metal.