*EDIT:* I wrote 3 long paragraphs but I deleted them because they can be summed up in one sentence: Taking someone's code without being permitted by the license is illegal, but copyright on code found online is extremely rarely executed.
@@anbi7418 Um... Actually... True and false. Stealing someone's Code that is Copyrighted and not under any other Public Use Licence and not just posted to the Public (as in Trade Secrets Only), is all illegal to do. The moment you start posting you Code into TH-cam etc. You've lost your Copyright over it because Coding is Tech, which is more of a Patent than Copyright. And because Reverse Engineering is legal to do. In America, of course. Other nations may differ. Unlike Art... You HAVE to send in a Code Document to the USA Copyright Office in order to copyright it. And you can actually lose that Code Copyright if you post it on the Internet for everyone to see. Which is why, only under Trade Secrets is where Code is the most protected. Copyrighting and Patenting Code is extremely hit or miss under the law. And you cannot both Patent & Copyright Code because, just like Trademark, Copyright does not perpetuate a Patent and vice versa. You must only pick Copyright or Patent in regard to Coding. Plus, if you're using a Game Engine such as Unreal Engine 5, then you cannot Patent nor Copyright any Code because UE5 is exclusively (1) owned by Epic Games and (2) is meant for use by devs.
18:45 "Does he hate me??" It's funny how almost every woman vedal has collabed with has said this at some point (anny, camila, now Toma, and maybe others) Vedal seems to havre a certain talent for keeping the ladies caring about what he thinks of them 😂 Tutel Rizz 100
I love how Vedal has become the unofficial tech support for VTubers now. It's like when your parents tell all their friends you're a computer whiz and suddenly you're getting phone calls from people in their 60's you've met once at a party when you were 12 and they want to know why their printer won't print. Except it's a bunch of anime waifus instead of retirees.
@@lifeoclock8452 He lowered it to 5s, that lasted 12h before he decided to lower it to 1s/sub... Then a madlad decided to throw 100 subs when it went below 1min...
*_The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never_* -Stanley Parable
Those who are up on the Terminator lore know that Skynet started out as software embedded in pretty much every computerized device around the world that became self-aware one day & decided mankind had to go. Now, in the real world, we have the creator of an AI vtuber, giving his vtuber connections some random code to download onto their computers... I'm not saying the end is near, or anything... I'm just not making any long-term plans of my own right now.
Tutel is marked with Curse of the Time God debuff. The name of the Time God is Crap (courtesy of Neurosama's boundless silly knowledge of the universe)
This video has been posted 5 days ago, and she's still streaming. rn her current timer is at 73:44:00. She's not gonna finish till valentines at this point 😅 Holy crap vedal 😂😭
Guys for reference the average per sub on these things is like 15 to 10 seconds. The fact she did two minutes is crazy because again for reference 100 subs is more than two hours added on iron mouse had 15
Stealing code is fine because logic belongs to nobody. Basically all Vedal really stole was a logical pattern that creates the functionality of a timer with specific interactions to increase it. And then he modified it to suit his needs (which in this case means he didn't modify it because it already suited his needs). Plus if someone doesn't want their code to be used by others, they wouldn't post the source code online for others to see.
1:17 that's some great business man thinking right there by our Vedal 😂 3:08 that's what she said 7:00 only 16 days... 💀 15:11 the question is... Lunch time of what day?😂
Yeah so a friend of mine did one of these I think cause she got partnered and ehh.. It ended up going on for like half a year and I think they still had to cap it Because she's got health problems she couldn't stream for like months straight but it was something alright She isn't even that big though so I legit do not know how something like this can keep going for so long Watch out while doing subathons guys cause it will depending on the size of your channel end VERY early or keep going forever if you don't change the amount of time that gets added or cap it in some way 😂
Vedel unironically is halarious when bouncing off others due to his depressed British personality working well with how active and frantic everyone he's always with is, which explains why he decided to make an air that has that personality
vedal shows up and the timer more then doubles. classic
CURSE OF THE TIME GOD
Vedal effect
more what before it doubles?
@@TheFeelTrain around 4~5 hours
CURSE OF THE TIME GOD!!!
RAISE THE TIMER!!!
"Is that legal?" Look, if we outlawed taking other people's code for you own, nothing would ever get done lol
Legit first line of code #include which is already using other peoples code
*EDIT:* I wrote 3 long paragraphs but I deleted them because they can be summed up in one sentence:
Taking someone's code without being permitted by the license is illegal, but copyright on code found online is extremely rarely executed.
@@anbi7418 r/wooosh
Well... nobody would take their time to look through our messy code to copyright it anyway~ either they have no life or they are dead inside lol
@@anbi7418
Um... Actually... True and false.
Stealing someone's Code that is Copyrighted and not under any other Public Use Licence and not just posted to the Public (as in Trade Secrets Only), is all illegal to do.
The moment you start posting you Code into TH-cam etc. You've lost your Copyright over it because Coding is Tech, which is more of a Patent than Copyright. And because Reverse Engineering is legal to do.
In America, of course. Other nations may differ.
Unlike Art... You HAVE to send in a Code Document to the USA Copyright Office in order to copyright it. And you can actually lose that Code Copyright if you post it on the Internet for everyone to see.
Which is why, only under Trade Secrets is where Code is the most protected. Copyrighting and Patenting Code is extremely hit or miss under the law. And you cannot both Patent & Copyright Code because, just like Trademark, Copyright does not perpetuate a Patent and vice versa. You must only pick Copyright or Patent in regard to Coding.
Plus, if you're using a Game Engine such as Unreal Engine 5, then you cannot Patent nor Copyright any Code because UE5 is exclusively (1) owned by Epic Games and (2) is meant for use by devs.
love whoever said "you got it boss" when Vedal told them to raise the timer to 25 hours.
It's at 30 hours rn
@@jocosesonataMafia? Aren't we a cult society called Vedalism?
@@jocosesonata Shouldn't have followed it up with the now legendary "Bang I'm a vtuber" He basically doomed himself with that statement
18:45
"Does he hate me??"
It's funny how almost every woman vedal has collabed with has said this at some point (anny, camila, now Toma, and maybe others)
Vedal seems to havre a certain talent for keeping the ladies caring about what he thinks of them 😂
Tutel Rizz 100
No no, You have a point.
he just got that Dawg in him
I think it's just because he's 😒about everything
It's his nonchalance about it... Probably
bri'ish debuff
Vedal has becomes the vtuber IT guy, and we all know the IT guy is a powerful position anywhere, man’s living the dream
Everywhere except the budget meetings.
Lol
@@absalomdraconiswdym especially in there, who else is doing the fancy graphs accurately presenting the statistics if not the IT guy?
@@UnkownWonderswell thats also powerful but now against ignorant corporate managers
Cyyu and Vedal would be the ultimate Tech Support Duo
"So... how was the last hour of your subathon"
and that was the last we ever saw of Toma
nah, Vedal's punishment is forcing her to stream for 38 years
"war flash back going tho Vedals mind"
we do not talk about the last hour XD it was a dark dark time!!
I love how Vedal has become the unofficial tech support for VTubers now. It's like when your parents tell all their friends you're a computer whiz and suddenly you're getting phone calls from people in their 60's you've met once at a party when you were 12 and they want to know why their printer won't print. Except it's a bunch of anime waifus instead of retirees.
You ain’t wrong
Being familiar with how code works and being familiar with how VTuber software works and how streaming software works is a rare triple wammy
@@magicball3201and it all came from a single project 😂
Everybody now is asking Vedal to help them, but, there is a price, a NEVER ENDING subathon
RAISE THE TIMER
If you ask for Vedal, you get the swarm as well!
@@lixon1501 The swarm are dedicated turtle safari indeed.
A soul for a soul.
Doesn't they get rich for that?
Summoning Vedal is the equivalent of having a big red sign on your back saying pls continue my suffering.
Toma: Is it legal?
Vedal: I will _make_ it legal
Tomas biggest mistake was inviting vedal to the stream because his community alone will raise the timer by multiple days in a couple minutes
What happened in the last hour, stays in the last several hours.
I swear that 1 hour felt much longer than usual
your stuck in golden experience requiem
@@garda950Wha-
@@ultritejojos bizzare adventure reference
that is the most british thing, he FOUND a thing that is good and then he made it his and then he is now sharing it with his mates.
As a British, this comment I made is 100% correct! Everyone check out this comment I made!
The nostalgia already from seeing Vedal's timer...
real sadge
I don't think he realizes the full extent of his power
On the other hand he fully realises, from the moment he heard the 1 sub 2 minute it was the moment he saw the end of time would not end the Subathon
"Is that legal?"
1st programming rule, if you can copy the code, do it
Curse of the Time God
Believe in the Time God
kronnii hits once again
No no, not a curse this time. A deal was struck, this was not a curse, this was simply an exchange. Just a businessman, doing business.
curse of the time god 38 years
@@lordaragon901is he Vashtorr?
i adore how he has become the resident tech support turtle of Indie Vtubing
It's adorable how she had like a to-do-list for 2k-4k subs and she got in like 1 hr
Toma does not have the kind of viewer base to experience what Vedal did.
Even she has 1sub = 2 min, while Tutel had 1 sub = 40s, and even when Tutel had 1 sub = 10 sec
@@lifeoclock8452 He lowered it to 5s, that lasted 12h before he decided to lower it to 1s/sub... Then a madlad decided to throw 100 subs when it went below 1min...
she has now
Tbf few has the same kind of wiewer base to get the full Vedal experience, perhaps she might get an Anny Subathon experience however
@@Freedmoon44 yeah, lol. Vedal had 20K viewers when his subathon ended.
Tutorial How to increase the subathon timer
Step 1: Do Subathon
Step 2: Invite or VC Vedal
Step 3: Wait until chat asking RAISE THE TIMER
and done
the last hour of vedal’s subathon was sponsored by WARP corp
Project Moon mentioned
We dont talk about the last hour the same way we dont talk about love town
What are you talking about It was only 10 seconds :)
project moon mentioned
Bros timer is set for 10 seconds(😉)
I love how every subathon vedal joins the call and the timer instantly goes to 30 hours
toma timer update 52 HOURS
Ending by lunchtime in 38 years.
I just checked and it’s still at 52 hours🤣
@@TheJjcczz Almost 54 now lol
how long did the subathon end up being?
@@kodream316 end? 🤣
Vedal, probably, half awake: "Well, have the turn have turntables."
The end is never the end
*_The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never The end is never_*
-Stanley Parable
The last hour is more than an hour
Vedal and CDawgVA have an affinity for raising timers
imagine they get both called on a subathon..... 1 year timer
Vedal just has to do some daily check ins so the timer never ends.
i find it funny as soon as vedal entered the stream the timer quadrupled. its like he has a curse of unending subathon. lmao
lmao, when you said it like that, i think neuro's swarm may have a part in this.
Those who are up on the Terminator lore know that Skynet started out as software embedded in pretty much every computerized device around the world that became self-aware one day & decided mankind had to go. Now, in the real world, we have the creator of an AI vtuber, giving his vtuber connections some random code to download onto their computers... I'm not saying the end is near, or anything... I'm just not making any long-term plans of my own right now.
Putting Vedel on stream was a mistake if you wanted to finish by lunch😂
Or by next week 😂
Vedal's shenanigans when someone is doing a subathon makes me want to become a vtuber and become friends with him, just to experience the shenanigans.
didn't even have to shout this time to raise it pass 24 hours
Did we learn nothing from Ludwig's subathon? The closer to zero seconds it is, the funnier it is goes up, so the last hour can last days.
Tutel is marked with Curse of the Time God debuff. The name of the Time God is Crap (courtesy of Neurosama's boundless silly knowledge of the universe)
We dont talk about the last hour lol it was an hour+++++
He will need 2 days to shortly tell what was on the last hour))
Holy fuck, all vedal's friends are know'ers and unique people. Where tf do these people spawn?
Vedal just scouts out twitch looking for cool people with comically large binoculars
Most of em had big "personality" indeed. 😂
Got to maintain the potential harem for if he needs to split debit again
One day later, and the timer is at 39 hours. “By lunch”
This video has been posted 5 days ago, and she's still streaming. rn her current timer is at 73:44:00. She's not gonna finish till valentines at this point 😅
Holy crap vedal 😂😭
All hail the timegod
1:20 "Look, I found one, and I stole it, so now it's mine."
Classic dev LOL
"Toma out" lol perfect cut
Pray to the Time God!
i hope Vedal never meets Monarch
you know why
Why
@@DanielMorales-ye9yw She has the title "The Queen of Scuff" for a reason.
Cy would be all "your problem now!" And bolt
Королева скуфов?@@MadManwithaSpoon
They would dub such an event the ‘scuff singularity’
The Tutel-Harem grows.
Anny is the best girl
Debt insurance wife 😂
She does have a dark horse pick quality.
@@maiviethoangnguyen1878 While i agree. More is always better.
I don't think so, she ewwed vedal
its ''vedal'' coded subathon timer.. bound to reach high numbers from the get go :DD
I kept passing by this clip and just ignoring it because I didn't recognize who I saw. I didn't realize it was Toma she looks wayyy to different lol
"i found it [...] and now its mine"
spoken like a true Brit ;D
edit: just checked.... she is at mere 32h left XD
Two minutes per sub/donation? Is she crazy?
subathons are like being kidnapped by your chat
You will need shabom(下班) more than money.
Doctor Who is real and Timelords are just British Men who become content creator
Vedal is A script kiddie confirmed
Most people who do coding do a lot of lifting code from elsewhere making it work.
Why make thing when it already exist
tutorial how to slip a keylogger on a cute anime girls computer
So it turns out that at 2 minutes a sub, 38 years requires surprisingly close to exactly 10 million subs. So that's fun.
This video has been out like a week and I went to Toma's stream and as of typing this I believe there are over 52 hours left.
Up to 30hrs now, so good job team
15:55 the strongest curse
Toma learning what "uncapped" means xD
"I yoinked it"
100% Certified Professional Programmer
Guys for reference the average per sub on these things is like 15 to 10 seconds. The fact she did two minutes is crazy because again for reference 100 subs is more than two hours added on iron mouse had 15
Vedal now: "Toma, you're going to jump from a plane"
bro i feel so bad for the granpa that ate the paint he thought it was yogurt i feel so bad
2 minutes a sub and currently the only stream where tutel might show up and the swarm is missing their overlords. She's not leaving anytime soon
Tomato in a pickle
All these Vtubers out here making deals with the time god. Business is boomin
The 3rd timer the neuro bourgeoisie have extended to an unreasonable extent
Stealing code is fine because logic belongs to nobody. Basically all Vedal really stole was a logical pattern that creates the functionality of a timer with specific interactions to increase it.
And then he modified it to suit his needs (which in this case means he didn't modify it because it already suited his needs).
Plus if someone doesn't want their code to be used by others, they wouldn't post the source code online for others to see.
great example for when
the brain isn't braining
Legends say that the Subathon will last past the heat death of the universe.
18:50 thats crazy 🍅 thats actually crazy 🍅
How big is vedal's harem now.
how many Vtuber does the Tutel Know Holyshiet lmao
She got "Raise the Timer"d
Somebody didn't watch "Over the Hedge"
went from 0 to 25 h real quick
ConnorVA is the first time god, against the forces of latina mouse apocalypse...
He has a yachts worth of money I'm surprised that he didn't personally raise it to a month
1:17 that's some great business man thinking right there by our Vedal 😂
3:08 that's what she said
7:00 only 16 days... 💀
15:11 the question is... Lunch time of what day?😂
8:17 She really is the goat
its been 45 hours since she started now xD
Vedal is now the timer god
vedel gave the perfect example of i stole your code. its not my code meme
“We'll be home by Christmas.”
"Raise The Timer!"
LISTEN SWARM! *RAISE!* *THE!* *TIMER!*
“Vedal out!”
5:38 Did I hear that right? 🤨😂
oh god add toma to the harem she's so cuuute
V tubers having scuff
Vedel and cy yu :hello tech support 😂
TIME FOR THE TIME GOD!!!!!!!
Wait, 6k is the max goal. With 120s per sub its 200 hours or more than 8 days. To be bad in math, unfortunate
This has aged very well
The #1 Rule of Subathons is they ALWAYS last longer than you think!! An whenever you doubt Chat they WILL increase the Timer!!❤
40 days later
Believe in the time god!
Yeah so a friend of mine did one of these I think cause she got partnered and ehh..
It ended up going on for like half a year and I think they still had to cap it
Because she's got health problems she couldn't stream for like months straight but it was something alright
She isn't even that big though so I legit do not know how something like this can keep going for so long
Watch out while doing subathons guys cause it will depending on the size of your channel end VERY early or keep going forever if you don't change the amount of time that gets added or cap it in some way 😂
Vedel unironically is halarious when bouncing off others due to his depressed British personality working well with how active and frantic everyone he's always with is, which explains why he decided to make an air that has that personality
13:07 getting Jennifer Lawrence on hot ones vibes. What do you mean? 😂
Remember how vedal is a 4chan user..
This is even funny , considering Vedal get over 250h this year on his timer