This is unrelated to the video but I’ve come to realize that Viktor’s whole arc in season 2 parallels legacy Skarner, (peaceful hivemind that’s related to hextech gets destroyed by piltoven connected to the Talis family) and that Viktor becomes a inhuman champion. No wonder Nickyboi loves this new Viktor, no shade there.
I got the vibe that Viktor's arc was similar to Soraka, where the more she heals others, the more it hurts her. Also Soraka being celestial really made me feel like she could've had this very same story and been part of it.
Otherworld Jinx was so cool to me because it kind of parallels what people with mental health difficulties go through. Aint nobody gonna tell me that Jinx doesn't have a predisposition towards either depression or some other mental health disorder, but she seems to heal in this dimension. There's evidence of her overcoming VI's death and accepting it and her place in the world. Don't get me wrong, base Jinx goes through a lot, but I loved this what if scenario.
Powder was already building bombs as a kid. Like they didn't work or amounted to a glitterbomb, but she did fully intend for some of them to be grenades. And uh, nobody said anything. They got into fights and she built them to defend herself, but those kill people. I'm really not sure if she just never grasped what that would do to someone or if nobody cared (i'm pretty sure Vander would not appreciate murder). Obviously people with mental health issues don't just start building bombs, but it's symbolic of how early and easily her environment taught her to use her skills to destroy things. I feel like Otherworld powder was encouraged to build more fun contraptions and less grenades.
"Aint nobody gonna tell me that Jinx doesn't have a predisposition towards either depression or some other mental health disorder" -> I don't understand this part. We have no way to know if she has genetic predisposition or not because in the parralel universe the 1st scene of the show where her parents die in front of her on the bridge happens as well. Hard to come up with a more traumatic event than that for a child. So in both universes Powder has acquired trauma, we don't know about genetic predisposition.
@@Attya-y2y Her breakdown when Vi initially leaves her at The Last Drop is the biggest indicator in my eyes. Her open mouthed sobbing, screaming, hitting herself and destroying her inventions is strikingly similar to an autistic person experiencing a meltdown (saying this from experience). During the same scene we also see a little bit of the glitchy/sketchy effects that always accompany Jinx’s psychosis and hallucinations.
When i saw Viktors new mask, man i LOVED IT He has his face split, shed, and he has a rune halo, a weird triangle claw that looks so unnerving, and glowing yellow eyes Designers cooked a meal never before seen But for clarification i don't like that they deleted the cyborg that was old viktor and put a mage in his place I want puppetified jayce as a skin btw
If, and only if, he is a mage from the Jayce flashback, then nope, you can become a mage from Arcane exposure. Walks like duck, talks like duck kind of thing. Reminds me of old Twisted Fate's bio where he became a mage through being a lab rat. @@itsgonnabeokay9341
I think the biggest improvement arcane did with jayce was his face. He has these big eyes full of heart and soul and an easy handsomeness that makes him so charming, but it also makes it so when he expresses anger there is a petulance or ignorance in his face that rises to the surface and corrupts his kind nature.
I love how, despite everything that happened to her at that point, Fractured Jinx when she appears in the scene looks so...peacefull, like her face is so serene for what she is about to do. I think the effect of Ekko repeating over and over to convince her to stay really had an impact, i just love that version of Jinx Also goth Vi is real and i love it
3:05 the guy who sings this song is called "tongo" hes a peruvian singer who passed away not so long ago, im peruvian and i really appreciate seing that nicholas male is a man of culture
The way I think about it, the new viktor design isn't the problem. Like, it is good, I love it too. But the problem is what we're leaving behind, viktor's old originality, now it's just another crazy mage (malzahar intensifies).
And also just a mage in general, we already have so many of those And he was also a scientist that wasn't outright evil, juxtaposing Singed in this way, and other destructive engineers, which for some reason are all yordles Old Viktor served a very specific unique fantasy, and instead of improving upon a concept, they just gave up and made him someone else Which is fine for Arcane, if it was a separate universe, but it is sad now Same with Skarner, he had a unique fantasy and now is a boomer force of nature that doesn't want people to change, oh hello Volibear why are you here haha Gentrification of league of legends is really sad yeah
I do like LeBlanc’s Arcane design, but I also really like the LoR design. Ideally when she gets a rework/VGU maybe they could combine elements of both. I really like the new Viktor design-wise, but I dislike that he doesn’t really have the robotic aspect anymore. He’s more like a magic alien than a robot, and I understand why fans of him being a robot guy would be disappointed.
And the thing it could have robotic elements with magic, because the original has both (more leaning the robotic side). Imagine like a organic robot, IT WOULD BE COOL!!
I agree. I think they could've kept the new mask/face, which I actually really like, but made his body more like his automaton army bc they actually look like robots. But instead of white, it could be black & purple.
I like warwick's design in arcane because he actually looks like a messed up experiment, you can tell that it was a human body twisted into that animalistic shape and it makes it so much more horrifying, league warwick is just a generic werewolf with chemtech augments. Glorious warwick does suck ass though I'm not gonna defend that design lmao.
Right? He's supposed to be the result of a cruel experiment of combining man and beast and his Arcane design shows it very well. Even in his expression, you can see him struggling. Using his League design would just be playing it too safe and I think some scenes wouldn't have hit as hard, imho. Also, he kind of reminds me of Beast from Beauty and the Beast. I could be wrong, but looking at some concepts, I think his "man-wolf" design was considered right from the get-go. I don't hate his change due to Viktor's influence, but it definitely feels like they could've let him fully transform, but decided against it. At the very least, they did confirm in an interview that he does fully transform after Arcane. Maybe they should've hinted at that near the end at least. EDIT: Also correct me if I'm wrong, but in the game lore, he dies and that triggers his final transformation, right?
As a Warwick enjoyer, I really do dislike the lack of muzzle. If Warwick had been ""killed"" and his head destroyed by Isha's Big Bang Attack and he didn't show up again until maybe, like, an ending scene... I'd be disappointed we didn't get full Warwick in Arcane but, oh well; water under the bridge. He'd get there eventually as things progressed. The evolution-ed Warwick, though, is what really leaves the sour taste in my mouth. I just don't see how it's plausible for Warwick to go from that to his League version. And I think that's the real problem. Arcane being made Mainline Canon instead of just another AU is great for some characters, but I think it's awful for others.
@@Firesti The only way I could see it happening is that maybe the explosion + "glorious evolution fuckery going away" makes it so the head has to reform and now with vander dead-dead the Beast takes over completely and grows a tail I guess
@@Firestii for sure thought he was gonna go full warwick after being blown up and regenerated, literally “losing his head” and having the beast head taking full control. Ideally if arcane was longer I’d like evolution warwick to not exist at all, they could’ve just ditch his corpse after the blood transfusion with viktor thinking that he’s dead just for him to be still alive and roaming zaun in the epilogue or smth.
Dont make fun of me but lowkey want to see an Arcane side/background character tier list. Steb, Sevika, Lest, Local cuisine, Noxian Pantheon guy, that one rat-cat(?) chem baron... 😭 25:26 I personally thought the end Orianna's story overall was that she doesnt even have a sliver of humanity left after giving it all away. Her kindness ate away at her, until se was no longer human. A reverse pinnochio in a sense.
I love how Arcane Hemier and League Heimer are literally just different people. One refuses to invent things that hurt people, the other invents everything that hurts people. Rockets, bombs, turrets, super rockets, super bombs, super turrets! It's hilarious
Evolved Viktor looks so good in Arcane, but man oh man, it looks so lackluster in game. The disconnect there is crazy and I don't know how it got bungled so badly
my only issue with the victor rework is that Old Viktor looked like he'd still beat the snot out of you, which for a spell slinger mage, is kinda rare. I think there's 3 other mages that have that body type. And I dont mean actively runs up and knocks you out, I mean, if all else fails, the magic, the machines, he can and will fist fight you until one of you stops breathing. which was really funny.
This list is basically on point. Genuinely couldn't agree more with each ranking. Well besides 1. Cmon man put my boi Last Stand Ekko into S+ tier PLEASE. But I can live with it cause Firelight Ekko is indeed a banger design. Personally Last Stand Ekko is just so damn cool. The Z drive and the general aesthetic just goes so hard and it's probably my favorite design from the show. I also adore how he shares body paint with Jinx visually signifying not only the two of them as a duo but that a lot happened off screen between the final battle and Ekko saving her life. It also makes the ending with him alone on the roof hit so much harder.
I still find it impressive how there are people defending leblanc's current design when every single other design from other products like arcane or lor are significantly better like ANYTHING can be considered as an improvement than the weird half naked waifu we have
Current design for me is the LOR design, she is a great representation of public persona noxian noble Leblanc, while the shadow is the leblanc that imprisoned mordekaiser
Fully agreeing with you on Leblanc Arcane Leblanc is so fucking cool man, she feels like pure power, she feels like an illusion master and a force of magic, she looks like the woman who banished Mordekaiser
I love that we put S as a rating to indicate peak and now it's not enough and we have to put more and more +'s on it. Gotta love too that THE HIGHEST and SPECIAL rank just has 90% of the characters in it
There’s something to be said for a tier list with a bunch of S+ tier-ranked characters, it definitely gives a lot of appreciation to the pure quality of each design rather than saying ‘there’s already 4 S+ tiers so this really amazing design is only an A tier’ kinda thing. Absolutely love it, these designs are (almost) all peak 😌
Man I wish Heimerdinger had more screentime this season. He had an interesting arc but a lot of it feels like it happened off screen. Honestly feel like I can say this for a lot of characters this season lmao.
Until I saw the ending, I thought the multiple scenes in which the murk wolf's head was shown in the background of Signed's lab were foreshadowing Warwick's full transformation.
As a Warwick main Vander: S+, I love him, he is better than what i imagined for Warwick being in his human form Vander/Warwick: S, at first i wasn't sure about his design but the action, the story the whole act 2 made me love him Glorious Evolution Warwick: F- , this is my biggest complain about Arcane, im still mad about how dirty they did my boy in act 3 design and story wise
Viktors design is just weird, it’s cool and all but I think that Viktor should have been more machine then what he is because he ISNT machine, he is just magic and sure it’s cool to mix machine and magic buut they could have done it just abit better
yea i think arcane victor would be good if it was machine instead of magic. We have plenty of magic characters but viktor was like the only machine/robot characters besides blitzcrank. Because my main issue with arcane viktor is that its magic which we have plenty of magic in league
I feel like Arcane does this a lot with League's universe which is such a shame The whole point of league's lore is that the game was a mashup of every single trope that was popular at the moment and there wasn't really a plan for it all, this lead to a universe where a lot of different types of civilizations and societies coexist with vastly different power sources which makes it almost a unlimited source of great stories, there are spirits, magic, futuristic weapons, the undead, demigods and gods that aren't actual gods, demons , and primordial fears, the fucking void you feel like they are in some kind of balance, sure the demons and primordial fears are scary, but what is that compared to the power of the gods? oh well the gods are scary, but what are they compared to the power of the abyss? well the abyss is scary but the frost can contain it and so on and so forth But now with Arcane it seems just much more sanitized, the world we are shown is one where there is magic and there is science but very little in between, hell there is barely any science (as most of the science shown in the series is just the study of the arcane, aka the study of magic and it's properties), and magic seems to trump over everything else, the whole universe just feels much smaller At the beginning the hexcore seemed to be connected to the abyss, now it turns out it's just the arcane on steroids, we didn't even get the connection to Ryze in the beginning (as it turns out that was actually Viktor) so it makes you feel like the only places that exist in this world are Piltover and Noxus, the same thing happens to Viktor, as magic is far more op technology takes a background role, and Viktor turns from a man who wants to fix the mistakes of the flesh with machinery (a copycat of the Adeptus Mechanicus) into a god who wants to do an evangelion and turn everyone into the same consciousness (again magic on steroids) Warwick goes from an arc of a man made into a monster that still has lingering humanity into another magic based beast, Viktor goes from a man who wants technology to lift humanity into a magic based god wanna be
But... Viktor _is_ all machine. Instead of the previous design and lore, which was so confusing as it tried to be two different things at the same time that ended up making the character look incomprehensible and hypocritical, Viktor has been redesigned into a being made out of pure Hextech - biomechanical machinery infused with magical energy. Jinx even refers to Viktor by the name 'Machine Herald' upon meeting him. He *is* a robot, infused with magic. This works much better for me than 'man who talks about mechanical supremacy but only replaces one forearm, has one extra hand, and a leg brace'.
I feel like when Vander-Warwick got his face esploded it could have easily been a transform point into more game-accurate ww by saying the rapid healing from the wolf side healed back as wolf Tbh I fully expected that to be the case when we saw him again but it was just stoic monster man
Jinx's redesign makes me remember when they made Spider Gwen into a Venom host, and then made Venom's mouth be her hoot, that was absolute cinema level of design
I REALLY hope we get to see more of Orianna. It feels like a teaser since it was lined up with the Swain teaser as well, but man I just hope that we actually get her character interacting in the story this time. Feels like there's so much they could do with Orianna now that she's Singed's daughter, since Singed will be responsible for a lot of character arcs in the Invasion of Ionia.
I feel like the only person that exists that actually likes the more classic werewolf Warwick.. I think it's better than his league design that just feels like an anthropomorphic wolf (imo), I know that's just what a werewolf could be described as but usually they have more of the "man" part to them at least. Glorious evolved Warwick kinda just looks like a big man though which was weird.
i was a WW onetrick for a while and i agree. I think up to episode 6 his arc was perfect, and would have liked for him to become his full wolf form or whatever by Singed. him being taken over by Vik just felt unsatisfying and out of character, he would have been so cool in his more animalistic design
@@thesyrupdude yes thats definitly true. but my headcanon is that he will eventually get to his more beast like appearance. when he gets damaged so bad only his wolf part regenerates
Yep as a non league player, when Ekko pulled off his mask that was the only time in season 1 that my jaw literally dropped. Literally it dropped when they revealed that. For season 2 my jaw dropped like so many times but Ekko was the only thing that made me do that in season 1 lol
i think Arcane Viktor final evolution is cool as hell. But. It shouldn't have replaced what we had in the game, couldve been such a sick legendary skin imo.
16:48 I am happy someone else loves this cause he feels alien but also still slightly mechanical not fully so I get why some hate it but u honestly prefer this victor over the old one. Plus it makes him feel so unique and really alien compared to the rest of piltover which considering his goals makes sense.
Seeing singed pre transformation is so weird, like when first watching I never knew that was him until after the explosion and Viktors childhood life, his mouth movement is so STRANGE
Because it'll actually be right? NickyBoi, for all his cowering everytime he sees "straight" horny, is utterly mind controlled by "queer" horny. If OG LeBlanc had been gay since release, he'd be drooling over the OG design. Viktor's new design is such a foreign concept from original Viktor, from lore, to origin, to visuals. Its done in such a way that feels disrespectful to fans of original Viktor, while every other character's design feels like homage to the source material, rather than a slap in the face.
@@thedailypersonsopinion2099 preference i get, but calling them dogshit when champs like Aatrox or Morde are consistently like 10x more popular than they used to be is wild 💀
the dearly beloved playing as au jinx is being rated 😢 really loved the vid! no matter what anyone says arcane gave each character unique and beautiful twists that really only added to them
The only thing better than sick Viktor is Viktor when he was happy in act 1 before he got super sick, he still had his staff but like he wasn't dying yet
The thing about super ultra comic Victor (C trier) I love Is how he si human like again he realizes what he done and go back to his morals (and make him self looks like he looks before) and I think that make his character level up again. You can see his regret destroying the world in his eyes but really solid tier list❤
5:20 I mean... Considering what she was doing after cutting it, i doubt this was the reason. But you are right that it's more practical to have short hair.
Warwick was awesome. Until S2 Act 3. Act 2 was the midway point obviously. And then that's not even Warwick. That's just a really bad decision to make Viktor look better.
I want to point out a really neat detail about Arcane Fractured Jinx on her opening shot. At 4:46, you can kinda see what I'm talking about. The hood has all of these teeth and such like some kind of creature or monster, and her long bang just kinda hangs down like the creature's tongue. It's just a neat little bit of design that's only visible from one angle and that's kinda neat.
For WW there's a theory that somehow Vander is still somewhat in there and that in the end when Jinx tries to blow them both up, Vander eats the bomb and takes the brunt of the explosion to save Jinx, hence the pink streak that goes out after the explosion. Maybe that explosion makes Singed take the body and finally just put the wolf face onto it after the bomb blows off his head or something.
Fully agreed on the Galio Warwick. Imo they could have sort of write him off the show after that, OR (which i think would have been really cool) have him run away after the isha shot and regenerate his head into the werewolf and come to the final battle after sensing all the bloodshed and as a one vs all sort of character and pretty much just deal with jinx and vi like he did. Would have kept his arc, while giving us game accurate warwick instead of being a glorified viktor minion.
Imma be real, ascended viktor is a really cool design, I LOVE the body horror, but...... it's just no League Viktor anymore, there is nothing machine like left, he reads more as a different colour rebrand of malzahar. He's just another magic being as opposed to machine man we've had for over a decade and it removes something unique from league. There isn't another champion whose archetype was machine scientist gone too far but there's plenty of mages, heck, there's even another herald tied to magic although it's void. I just wish it had remained a skin instead of replacing one core thematic of Viktor
I like new Viktor, but I really hope we get another cyborg dude down the line again. I really really dug the idea of old aesthetic, and the rework (I hoped it amplified the old one) just missed my expectations, thats all.
Im sorry, new Viktor is an amazing character, but its just NOT Viktor, having two little pieces of metal on the side of his body does not make him a mix of machine and the arcane, its literally just Arcane. Objectibly speaking, and this is not an opinion, they ruined the machine herald, so much so that they had to change everything around him. Im sorry but this is not it, as a stand alone character, sure its good desing, but as a rework or reimagining? Its just bad
@@phelps6205 All tier lists are opinion-based. I'm not sure why you're presenting this like it's some grand revelation...or why you're whining in the comments of an opinion video you chose to watch lol
3rd stage Warwick makes sense for me. He showed the most resistance of all and wasn't a real follower of Victor. So Victor still trying to make Vender Vender again, but also evolving him would make him more human (resiting the change) and smoothing his face out more (but can't completely prevent the evolution).
Same here. Really don’t like the overuse of the braided Mohawk everywhere else because of lack of black hairstyles, but I absolutely LOVE IT more than Ekko’s Mohawk in game.
i think perfect warwick's design having a face is to represent warwick/vander's ridicoulous resistance to change and will to live. It shows he isn't fully viktorfied yet, which we can see when he survives unlike the rest of the perfect humans
The only design i actually dislike is evolved Warwick, idk why they made him look like that, he somehow looked scarier and more messed up while Vander was alive. They should have gone full monster.
Yeah nah Jinx' final design is kinda bad, mostly because of the narrative surrounding it completely falling apart. First off, no she didn't cut her hair because it can be used against her in battle, she would have cut it down sooner if she had realized during the many years she spent under Silco's guidance, and she did that between escaping her cell and trying to blow herself up, meaning the short hair is most likely her just going full on depression which... if you're going to kill yourself, why even bother ? The timing here is really off. But that's just nitpicking, the really egregious part... if we forget that her teaming up with Ekko is already insane considering Arcane Ekko would never do that, remove those rose tinted glasses of S2 episode 7, the Jinx Ekko remembers is a psychotic murderer who killed several of his friends, tried to blow both of them up in a desperate attempt, then performed a terrorist attack that sent both halves of the city into turmoil by killing several council members... But that's besides the point. THE WORLD IS FUCKING ENDING, she's already building a deus ex machina makeshift helicopter and a replacement minigun in under a single day, she does not have the time to give herself a makeover, and it's even more batshit insane that Ekko would go along when he's by far the more responsible of the two. So yeah, the finale was garbo and that Jinx design suffers for it.
me and my friend have made a consensus on new victor. we like how he looks, but we are upset his voicelines changed, we lost "Glorious Evolution!" we now have "glorious evolution."
Honestly I am chill about it until it is related to old league viktor. To me it worked really well as a development for the Arcane character, but to then also lose the league version made little sense. Honestly if they were adamant about arcane becoming the only canon then going so big with the threat (viktor bring arcane herald and noxus) stabbed them in the foot. Arcane worked the best in S1 when it was relationship focused and kinda grounded with its stakes.
So about Vander and Warwick i think that when Singed released him ,Warwick wasn't ready yet, he wasn't completely Warwick yet, he released him way too soon only because he needed him. That's why the second version is the "Not fully transformed" Warwick. The third version is still the "not fully transformed" Warwick but touched by arcane, it's normal that he doesn't still look completely as a wolf. And i guess he still has a face because of proportions, human faces faded because they are smaller and only eyes were left but for Warwick with that huge face it seems normal to me that it remains ,even though you can see that his face proportions are smaller and of course whole Warwick looks completely touched by the Arcane
One thing I love about enforcer Vi is just how uncomfortable she looks in it. The other enforcers look way more comfortable in their uniforms. The popped collar that should be flat like Caitlyn’s, the proportioning design doesn’t really complement her, that stupid little pink tutu something arcane Vi would never wear. This is Vi conforming to what Caitlyn wants. This is “Yeah sure we’ll kill my sister anything to make you feel better Cait” Vi. It looks like a costume on her and it’s so ill fitting and that just feels so good story wise. Also goes to show that an intentionally off looking enforcer design is miles better than whatever the hell OG Vi has going on.
cannot disagree more with evolved warwick's ranking lol the whole point is that it shows how viktor's glorious evolution is flawed and wrong but also how even in the evolution warwick is still a beast among them
Honestly I was impressed by the Caitlyn top hat redesign, like if I was tasked with turning the og lol top hat into something that fits Arcane I would insta Fizz ult myself
21:29 I disagree about this take on Warwick. I actually really like the fact that they kept his face for his final form since it isn't animated almost at all. It shows how it is a hollowed out form of a man who once was. This is not Vander. This is not really Warwick. This is the lifeless husk that remains of Vander/Warwick used as a weapon.
His face may be expressionless in the grand scheme of things, but i think from a viewers perspective it is not look like "expressionless face" or hollowed form of a man who once was. It just looks bad. I just really dont get the feel that you say his face supposedly should give
Glorious evolution opinion: It looks sick and I love the twisted concept, BUT removing all the technical parts hurts it phenomenally. Also his hex claw feels incredibly out of place. So I'd give it nothing higher than A (probably something a-b ish) These things could have easily been fixed. 1. They show how he uses magic and spare parts to "heal" people. Make the spare parts more visible in their and his design. 2. Just have him have the hexclaw before he transforms. Let Jesus put it on when he helps Warwick for some reason. Maybe he has to cut something open and oh, a hextech lazer can penetrate the ever healing wolf? Would make sense to me. ... literally solved that whole problem of his design. Final Warwick deserves a tier even lower. Didn't even have fur anymore. We never got the wolf, we only got an ugly abomination. That's why I couldn't give the mid transformation such a high ranking either, cause it wasn't the 2nd evolution, it was already his most wolf like form. Rather than solving it through giving him a face I would have given him a voice... I like Oris face but her body gets worse, because she misses the " replaced part by part " theme. For Janna: She's kinda just hextech Janna, isn't she? I like that there are many versions and depictions of her. Makes many sense... on the other hand you're right, it is one of the uglier ones.
I think janna's design works pretty damn well bcus the shurima one comes more as a "helpful spirit" whereas her design in arcane feels more like a worshipped figure hence the dark and more regal design
The issue with Viktor’s new design isn’t that it’s bad. If Viktor was a new character introduced in Arcane and added to league, everyone would love him. But he isn’t the Machine Herald old Viktor was. That was a unique fantasy no other character fulfils in-game, and it has been left behind for a more generic trope.
This is unrelated to the video but I’ve come to realize that Viktor’s whole arc in season 2 parallels legacy Skarner, (peaceful hivemind that’s related to hextech gets destroyed by piltoven connected to the Talis family) and that Viktor becomes a inhuman champion. No wonder Nickyboi loves this new Viktor, no shade there.
Still think that storyline shouldn’t been slapped onto Viktor but I guess they wanted to persevere it somewhere, Robots 4 life
Its just another Malza to me
I love a 2nd malzahar
I got the vibe that Viktor's arc was similar to Soraka, where the more she heals others, the more it hurts her. Also Soraka being celestial really made me feel like she could've had this very same story and been part of it.
Yeah, exactly, hen he mentioned body horror and inhuman, I instantly knew where it went, our boi is a sucker for monster champs
ngl just the idea that the goggles are Clagger's, and not some random goggles makes the enforcer design so much better, by a lot.
Welcome to the Arcane Redesign tier list featuring:
S++++ Tier
S+++ Tier
S++ Tier
S+ Tier
S Tier
S- Tier
A Tier
B Tier
CD Tier
And then there's Warwick
Otherworld Jinx was so cool to me because it kind of parallels what people with mental health difficulties go through. Aint nobody gonna tell me that Jinx doesn't have a predisposition towards either depression or some other mental health disorder, but she seems to heal in this dimension. There's evidence of her overcoming VI's death and accepting it and her place in the world. Don't get me wrong, base Jinx goes through a lot, but I loved this what if scenario.
Without a doubt bc you need genetics and environmental factors to really get the mental disorder’s going
Powder was already building bombs as a kid. Like they didn't work or amounted to a glitterbomb, but she did fully intend for some of them to be grenades. And uh, nobody said anything. They got into fights and she built them to defend herself, but those kill people. I'm really not sure if she just never grasped what that would do to someone or if nobody cared (i'm pretty sure Vander would not appreciate murder). Obviously people with mental health issues don't just start building bombs, but it's symbolic of how early and easily her environment taught her to use her skills to destroy things. I feel like Otherworld powder was encouraged to build more fun contraptions and less grenades.
"Aint nobody gonna tell me that Jinx doesn't have a predisposition towards either depression or some other mental health disorder"
-> I don't understand this part. We have no way to know if she has genetic predisposition or not because in the parralel universe the 1st scene of the show where her parents die in front of her on the bridge happens as well. Hard to come up with a more traumatic event than that for a child. So in both universes Powder has acquired trauma, we don't know about genetic predisposition.
@ we also got her killing her adoptive dad and sister ditching her missing
@@Attya-y2y Her breakdown when Vi initially leaves her at The Last Drop is the biggest indicator in my eyes. Her open mouthed sobbing, screaming, hitting herself and destroying her inventions is strikingly similar to an autistic person experiencing a meltdown (saying this from experience). During the same scene we also see a little bit of the glitchy/sketchy effects that always accompany Jinx’s psychosis and hallucinations.
25:09 I read the texture as porcelain / enamel rather than clay. Fitting since it would mirror the ballerina in the music box.
When i saw Viktors new mask, man i LOVED IT
He has his face split, shed, and he has a rune halo, a weird triangle claw that looks so unnerving, and glowing yellow eyes
Designers cooked a meal never before seen
But for clarification i don't like that they deleted the cyborg that was old viktor and put a mage in his place
I want puppetified jayce as a skin btw
Viktor isn't exactly a mage. You cannot become a mage on Runterra iirc. You have to be born one.
If, and only if, he is a mage from the Jayce flashback, then nope, you can become a mage from Arcane exposure. Walks like duck, talks like duck kind of thing. Reminds me of old Twisted Fate's bio where he became a mage through being a lab rat.
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I think the biggest improvement arcane did with jayce was his face. He has these big eyes full of heart and soul and an easy handsomeness that makes him so charming, but it also makes it so when he expresses anger there is a petulance or ignorance in his face that rises to the surface and corrupts his kind nature.
I love how, despite everything that happened to her at that point, Fractured Jinx when she appears in the scene looks so...peacefull, like her face is so serene for what she is about to do. I think the effect of Ekko repeating over and over to convince her to stay really had an impact, i just love that version of Jinx
Also goth Vi is real and i love it
They say that "at the end there is no rage or sadness, only acceptance" and yeah she looks like she is getting to the acceptance part
I got the impression that she was like "Welp, I didn't want to be here but I guess somebody gotta save the day, so f*ck it."
Need to study Ekko's game fr.
I mean, how does she know what Ekko did, if time travel doesn't work like that? From her perspective, he just got the right words
I think the in universe reason Janna looks different from her LoR redesign is that this is a Zaunite interpretation of her, not a Shuriman one.
3:05 the guy who sings this song is called "tongo" hes a peruvian singer who passed away not so long ago, im peruvian and i really appreciate seing that nicholas male is a man of culture
8:10 Hears Hornet's theme. Remember that Silksong is still not here. Gets depressed.
they announced that shi-t DAMN NEAR 6 YEARS AGO
Honestly at the point of unless they announce a release date, I don't wanna hear about it
Funny thing today i just beat the pantheon of the knight for the first time .
@@bobob6128oh shit congrats 🎉
Bro the devs are living with the bare minimum again 😢.(is a joke not real)
The way I think about it, the new viktor design isn't the problem. Like, it is good, I love it too. But the problem is what we're leaving behind, viktor's old originality, now it's just another crazy mage (malzahar intensifies).
That's probably why I can't love this new design. It's coming at the expense of the old design and concept.
I tried so hard to like the new one but im so bitter about losing machine viktor i just can't
And also just a mage in general, we already have so many of those
And he was also a scientist that wasn't outright evil, juxtaposing Singed in this way, and other destructive engineers, which for some reason are all yordles
Old Viktor served a very specific unique fantasy, and instead of improving upon a concept, they just gave up and made him someone else
Which is fine for Arcane, if it was a separate universe, but it is sad now
Same with Skarner, he had a unique fantasy and now is a boomer force of nature that doesn't want people to change, oh hello Volibear why are you here haha
Gentrification of league of legends is really sad yeah
I do like LeBlanc’s Arcane design, but I also really like the LoR design. Ideally when she gets a rework/VGU maybe they could combine elements of both.
I really like the new Viktor design-wise, but I dislike that he doesn’t really have the robotic aspect anymore. He’s more like a magic alien than a robot, and I understand why fans of him being a robot guy would be disappointed.
And the thing it could have robotic elements with magic, because the original has both (more leaning the robotic side).
Imagine like a organic robot, IT WOULD BE COOL!!
I agree. I think they could've kept the new mask/face, which I actually really like, but made his body more like his automaton army bc they actually look like robots. But instead of white, it could be black & purple.
I like warwick's design in arcane because he actually looks like a messed up experiment, you can tell that it was a human body twisted into that animalistic shape and it makes it so much more horrifying, league warwick is just a generic werewolf with chemtech augments.
Glorious warwick does suck ass though I'm not gonna defend that design lmao.
Right? He's supposed to be the result of a cruel experiment of combining man and beast and his Arcane design shows it very well. Even in his expression, you can see him struggling. Using his League design would just be playing it too safe and I think some scenes wouldn't have hit as hard, imho. Also, he kind of reminds me of Beast from Beauty and the Beast.
I could be wrong, but looking at some concepts, I think his "man-wolf" design was considered right from the get-go.
I don't hate his change due to Viktor's influence, but it definitely feels like they could've let him fully transform, but decided against it. At the very least, they did confirm in an interview that he does fully transform after Arcane. Maybe they should've hinted at that near the end at least.
EDIT: Also correct me if I'm wrong, but in the game lore, he dies and that triggers his final transformation, right?
As a Warwick enjoyer, I really do dislike the lack of muzzle. If Warwick had been ""killed"" and his head destroyed by Isha's Big Bang Attack and he didn't show up again until maybe, like, an ending scene... I'd be disappointed we didn't get full Warwick in Arcane but, oh well; water under the bridge. He'd get there eventually as things progressed.
The evolution-ed Warwick, though, is what really leaves the sour taste in my mouth. I just don't see how it's plausible for Warwick to go from that to his League version. And I think that's the real problem. Arcane being made Mainline Canon instead of just another AU is great for some characters, but I think it's awful for others.
@@Firesti The only way I could see it happening is that maybe the explosion + "glorious evolution fuckery going away" makes it so the head has to reform and now with vander dead-dead the Beast takes over completely and grows a tail I guess
Thank you, some one gets it
@@Firestii for sure thought he was gonna go full warwick after being blown up and regenerated, literally “losing his head” and having the beast head taking full control. Ideally if arcane was longer I’d like evolution warwick to not exist at all, they could’ve just ditch his corpse after the blood transfusion with viktor thinking that he’s dead just for him to be still alive and roaming zaun in the epilogue or smth.
Arcane truly is the story of Viktor trying to give everyone a Warframe account
the true horror of the arcane
Dont make fun of me but lowkey want to see an Arcane side/background character tier list. Steb, Sevika, Lest, Local cuisine, Noxian Pantheon guy, that one rat-cat(?) chem baron... 😭
25:26 I personally thought the end Orianna's story overall was that she doesnt even have a sliver of humanity left after giving it all away. Her kindness ate away at her, until se was no longer human. A reverse pinnochio in a sense.
Viktor was so cool in season 1 sadly he doesn't appear in season 2. Its a real shame.
This ☝️
i mean he did die at the end of season 1 after all
It's a shame that s2 was cancelled before it could be released.
So sad that arcane ended on that cliffhanger after 1 season but maybe its for the best
Words cannot describe how much I love arcane jinx, every version, she's the reason I'm into league and found this channel in the first place
Praying for you that game corrupts people
I love how Arcane Hemier and League Heimer are literally just different people. One refuses to invent things that hurt people, the other invents everything that hurts people. Rockets, bombs, turrets, super rockets, super bombs, super turrets! It's hilarious
Evolved Viktor looks so good in Arcane, but man oh man, it looks so lackluster in game. The disconnect there is crazy and I don't know how it got bungled so badly
22:00 i think that was the point, you don't know he's singed until the explosion and when he comes in the second act
my only issue with the victor rework is that Old Viktor looked like he'd still beat the snot out of you, which for a spell slinger mage, is kinda rare. I think there's 3 other mages that have that body type. And I dont mean actively runs up and knocks you out, I mean, if all else fails, the magic, the machines, he can and will fist fight you until one of you stops breathing. which was really funny.
Ironically, Malzahar is jacked and will definitely use a knife in close combat
You forgot ponytail, bodysuit Caitlyn at SSS+ tier
This list is basically on point. Genuinely couldn't agree more with each ranking. Well besides 1. Cmon man put my boi Last Stand Ekko into S+ tier PLEASE. But I can live with it cause Firelight Ekko is indeed a banger design. Personally Last Stand Ekko is just so damn cool. The Z drive and the general aesthetic just goes so hard and it's probably my favorite design from the show. I also adore how he shares body paint with Jinx visually signifying not only the two of them as a duo but that a lot happened off screen between the final battle and Ekko saving her life. It also makes the ending with him alone on the roof hit so much harder.
I still find it impressive how there are people defending leblanc's current design when every single other design from other products like arcane or lor are significantly better like ANYTHING can be considered as an improvement than the weird half naked waifu we have
leblanc is like nidalee or caitlyn before her asu: a stripper. so glad they changed cait and the redesign in lor for nidallee is gorgeous
Even if you want Le Blanc to just be a hot lady waifu, LOR design is so much better at doing that
Even if you want Le Blanc to just be a hot lady waifu, LOR design is so much better at doing that
Arcane design is not even a design yet, it's just a silluete
Current design for me is the LOR design, she is a great representation of public persona noxian noble Leblanc, while the shadow is the leblanc that imprisoned mordekaiser
Fully agreeing with you on Leblanc
Arcane Leblanc is so fucking cool man, she feels like pure power, she feels like an illusion master and a force of magic, she looks like the woman who banished Mordekaiser
My head cannon is that LoR Leblanc is what she looks like, but she always takes the shadow visage to hide her appearance.
I love that we put S as a rating to indicate peak and now it's not enough and we have to put more and more +'s on it.
Gotta love too that THE HIGHEST and SPECIAL rank just has 90% of the characters in it
There’s something to be said for a tier list with a bunch of S+ tier-ranked characters, it definitely gives a lot of appreciation to the pure quality of each design rather than saying ‘there’s already 4 S+ tiers so this really amazing design is only an A tier’ kinda thing. Absolutely love it, these designs are (almost) all peak 😌
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i love all aspects of viktor. sick victorian child viktor, jesus viktor, eldritch abomination viktor, funny russian machine viktor.
Man I wish Heimerdinger had more screentime this season. He had an interesting arc but a lot of it feels like it happened off screen. Honestly feel like I can say this for a lot of characters this season lmao.
when jayce first appeared with a beard… oh my god. people died. and i don’t just mean salo
Until I saw the ending, I thought the multiple scenes in which the murk wolf's head was shown in the background of Signed's lab were foreshadowing Warwick's full transformation.
As a Warwick main
Vander: S+, I love him, he is better than what i imagined for Warwick being in his human form
Vander/Warwick: S, at first i wasn't sure about his design but the action, the story the whole act 2 made me love him
Glorious Evolution Warwick: F- , this is my biggest complain about Arcane, im still mad about how dirty they did my boy in act 3 design and story wise
Viktors design is just weird, it’s cool and all but I think that Viktor should have been more machine then what he is because he ISNT machine, he is just magic and sure it’s cool to mix machine and magic buut they could have done it just abit better
yea i think arcane victor would be good if it was machine instead of magic.
We have plenty of magic characters but viktor was like the only machine/robot characters besides blitzcrank.
Because my main issue with arcane viktor is that its magic which we have plenty of magic in league
@@basicname1555 you forgot Orianna, and there more like cyborgs but there's also Camille and Urgot
I agree with you.
I feel like Arcane does this a lot with League's universe which is such a shame
The whole point of league's lore is that the game was a mashup of every single trope that was popular at the moment and there wasn't really a plan for it all, this lead to a universe where a lot of different types of civilizations and societies coexist with vastly different power sources which makes it almost a unlimited source of great stories, there are spirits, magic, futuristic weapons, the undead, demigods and gods that aren't actual gods, demons , and primordial fears, the fucking void you feel like they are in some kind of balance, sure the demons and primordial fears are scary, but what is that compared to the power of the gods? oh well the gods are scary, but what are they compared to the power of the abyss? well the abyss is scary but the frost can contain it and so on and so forth
But now with Arcane it seems just much more sanitized, the world we are shown is one where there is magic and there is science but very little in between, hell there is barely any science (as most of the science shown in the series is just the study of the arcane, aka the study of magic and it's properties), and magic seems to trump over everything else, the whole universe just feels much smaller
At the beginning the hexcore seemed to be connected to the abyss, now it turns out it's just the arcane on steroids, we didn't even get the connection to Ryze in the beginning (as it turns out that was actually Viktor) so it makes you feel like the only places that exist in this world are Piltover and Noxus, the same thing happens to Viktor, as magic is far more op technology takes a background role, and Viktor turns from a man who wants to fix the mistakes of the flesh with machinery (a copycat of the Adeptus Mechanicus) into a god who wants to do an evangelion and turn everyone into the same consciousness (again magic on steroids)
Warwick goes from an arc of a man made into a monster that still has lingering humanity into another magic based beast, Viktor goes from a man who wants technology to lift humanity into a magic based god wanna be
But... Viktor _is_ all machine. Instead of the previous design and lore, which was so confusing as it tried to be two different things at the same time that ended up making the character look incomprehensible and hypocritical, Viktor has been redesigned into a being made out of pure Hextech - biomechanical machinery infused with magical energy. Jinx even refers to Viktor by the name 'Machine Herald' upon meeting him. He *is* a robot, infused with magic. This works much better for me than 'man who talks about mechanical supremacy but only replaces one forearm, has one extra hand, and a leg brace'.
3:05 AS A PERUVIAN I LOVED HEARING TONGO'S SILLY COVER HERE, I ALMOST CHOKED LAUGHING 😂
Whoever made the decision to put that there, ilysm
I feel like when Vander-Warwick got his face esploded it could have easily been a transform point into more game-accurate ww by saying the rapid healing from the wolf side healed back as wolf
Tbh I fully expected that to be the case when we saw him again but it was just stoic monster man
Jinx's redesign makes me remember when they made Spider Gwen into a Venom host, and then made Venom's mouth be her hoot, that was absolute cinema level of design
17:13 I am with you, his new design is so freaking cool! Still, I would love to see him get a mechanical body later... if that is possible.
Yes, finally somebody who understands and isn’t hating on Warwick design personally my favorite design is Warwick not the gold one
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I REALLY hope we get to see more of Orianna. It feels like a teaser since it was lined up with the Swain teaser as well, but man I just hope that we actually get her character interacting in the story this time. Feels like there's so much they could do with Orianna now that she's Singed's daughter, since Singed will be responsible for a lot of character arcs in the Invasion of Ionia.
I feel like the only person that exists that actually likes the more classic werewolf Warwick.. I think it's better than his league design that just feels like an anthropomorphic wolf (imo), I know that's just what a werewolf could be described as but usually they have more of the "man" part to them at least. Glorious evolved Warwick kinda just looks like a big man though which was weird.
i was a WW onetrick for a while and i agree. I think up to episode 6 his arc was perfect, and would have liked for him to become his full wolf form or whatever by Singed. him being taken over by Vik just felt unsatisfying and out of character, he would have been so cool in his more animalistic design
@@thesyrupdude yes thats definitly true. but my headcanon is that he will eventually get to his more beast like appearance. when he gets damaged so bad only his wolf part regenerates
His first design is cool, but they had 2 different opportunities to make him full wolf but didn't do it
@@deadbymeme2311 I believe the co-creator said during an interview with Necrit that Warwick will eventually become the version we see in the games.
@@JTRyuujin will viktor become the version we used to see in game? 🥲
Yep as a non league player, when Ekko pulled off his mask that was the only time in season 1 that my jaw literally dropped. Literally it dropped when they revealed that. For season 2 my jaw dropped like so many times but Ekko was the only thing that made me do that in season 1 lol
i think Arcane Viktor final evolution is cool as hell. But. It shouldn't have replaced what we had in the game, couldve been such a sick legendary skin imo.
16:48 I am happy someone else loves this cause he feels alien but also still slightly mechanical not fully so I get why some hate it but u honestly prefer this victor over the old one. Plus it makes him feel so unique and really alien compared to the rest of piltover which considering his goals makes sense.
That moment when Nickyboi notices otherworldly powder hair streak was peak ADHD.
Nothing brings me more joy than seeing Nicky's goblin avatar say "hello fellas"
Also wanna add that au Powder's necklace is Vander's bracelet that vi used to wear as a necklace too
The problem with the new Viktor is that they just deleted the machine herald
Seeing singed pre transformation is so weird, like when first watching I never knew that was him until after the explosion and Viktors childhood life, his mouth movement is so STRANGE
Need TBskyen to do this exact tier list as well right now.
Because it'll actually be right? NickyBoi, for all his cowering everytime he sees "straight" horny, is utterly mind controlled by "queer" horny. If OG LeBlanc had been gay since release, he'd be drooling over the OG design. Viktor's new design is such a foreign concept from original Viktor, from lore, to origin, to visuals. Its done in such a way that feels disrespectful to fans of original Viktor, while every other character's design feels like homage to the source material, rather than a slap in the face.
@@loudwhispre9406oh calm down he’s always been a fence sitter he loves all the dog shit reworks actual mains hate
@@thedailypersonsopinion2099 preference i get, but calling them dogshit when champs like Aatrox or Morde are consistently like 10x more popular than they used to be is wild 💀
the dearly beloved playing as au jinx is being rated 😢 really loved the vid! no matter what anyone says arcane gave each character unique and beautiful twists that really only added to them
The only thing better than sick Viktor is Viktor when he was happy in act 1 before he got super sick, he still had his staff but like he wasn't dying yet
The thing about super ultra comic Victor (C trier) I love Is how he si human like again he realizes what he done and go back to his morals (and make him self looks like he looks before) and I think that make his character level up again. You can see his regret destroying the world in his eyes but really solid tier list❤
S1 viktor was goated, S2 felt awful
5:20 I mean... Considering what she was doing after cutting it, i doubt this was the reason. But you are right that it's more practical to have short hair.
I think warwick final form should be brought a few tiers lower its too high up
Unpopular opinion, league vi is sick, she just needs arcane's vi muscle
God damn dude, thanks for this video, I needed a mental break from Ghostrunner
Warwick was awesome.
Until S2 Act 3.
Act 2 was the midway point obviously.
And then that's not even Warwick. That's just a really bad decision to make Viktor look better.
I want to point out a really neat detail about Arcane Fractured Jinx on her opening shot. At 4:46, you can kinda see what I'm talking about. The hood has all of these teeth and such like some kind of creature or monster, and her long bang just kinda hangs down like the creature's tongue.
It's just a neat little bit of design that's only visible from one angle and that's kinda neat.
Not a single Jhin jumpscare. He can finally rest
For WW there's a theory that somehow Vander is still somewhat in there and that in the end when Jinx tries to blow them both up, Vander eats the bomb and takes the brunt of the explosion to save Jinx, hence the pink streak that goes out after the explosion. Maybe that explosion makes Singed take the body and finally just put the wolf face onto it after the bomb blows off his head or something.
Fully agreed on the Galio Warwick. Imo they could have sort of write him off the show after that, OR (which i think would have been really cool) have him run away after the isha shot and regenerate his head into the werewolf and come to the final battle after sensing all the bloodshed and as a one vs all sort of character and pretty much just deal with jinx and vi like he did. Would have kept his arc, while giving us game accurate warwick instead of being a glorified viktor minion.
You forgot to add Neeko
This is gonna be a bit of a deep cut, but fractured Jinx’s design reminds me of the reapers from the first Infamous.
Me too! ❤ Even if she couldn’t electrocute her body just like the counduits, that would have been AMAZING 🤩
Imma be real, ascended viktor is a really cool design, I LOVE the body horror, but...... it's just no League Viktor anymore, there is nothing machine like left, he reads more as a different colour rebrand of malzahar. He's just another magic being as opposed to machine man we've had for over a decade and it removes something unique from league. There isn't another champion whose archetype was machine scientist gone too far but there's plenty of mages, heck, there's even another herald tied to magic although it's void. I just wish it had remained a skin instead of replacing one core thematic of Viktor
I like new Viktor, but I really hope we get another cyborg dude down the line again. I really really dug the idea of old aesthetic, and the rework (I hoped it amplified the old one) just missed my expectations, thats all.
Im sorry, new Viktor is an amazing character, but its just NOT Viktor, having two little pieces of metal on the side of his body does not make him a mix of machine and the arcane, its literally just Arcane. Objectibly speaking, and this is not an opinion, they ruined the machine herald, so much so that they had to change everything around him.
Im sorry but this is not it, as a stand alone character, sure its good desing, but as a rework or reimagining? Its just bad
16:35 "Second evolution", A GLORIOUS ONE INDEED
4:56 well “she” didn’t throw paint all over herself but someone did
great editing style!
It really says something about the designs when you add an extra S+ tier and then add *most* of the designs into it
No, it says something about the creator of the tierlist, which is he is a fanboy, his opinion is not the ultimate truth.
@@phelps6205 Relax my man, he never said that that's what he's claiming to present
@@phelps6205 All tier lists are opinion-based. I'm not sure why you're presenting this like it's some grand revelation...or why you're whining in the comments of an opinion video you chose to watch lol
“How far he falls” *soft dragon roost island music playing*
3rd stage Warwick makes sense for me. He showed the most resistance of all and wasn't a real follower of Victor. So Victor still trying to make Vender Vender again, but also evolving him would make him more human (resiting the change) and smoothing his face out more (but can't completely prevent the evolution).
Same here. Really don’t like the overuse of the braided Mohawk everywhere else because of lack of black hairstyles, but I absolutely LOVE IT more than Ekko’s Mohawk in game.
hear me out, if vander's face split like viktor and the wolf came out, they could do body horror, literal wolf, and remove his humanity
i think perfect warwick's design having a face is to represent warwick/vander's ridicoulous resistance to change and will to live. It shows he isn't fully viktorfied yet, which we can see when he survives unlike the rest of the perfect humans
The only design i actually dislike is evolved Warwick, idk why they made him look like that, he somehow looked scarier and more messed up while Vander was alive. They should have gone full monster.
You could almost say that Viktor’s design… gloriously evolved
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Oh lord Nickyboi's avatar staring at my soul for a second
Firelight Ekko peaked in drip, drippest character of the whole show especially with that voice filter
Yeah nah Jinx' final design is kinda bad, mostly because of the narrative surrounding it completely falling apart.
First off, no she didn't cut her hair because it can be used against her in battle, she would have cut it down sooner if she had realized during the many years she spent under Silco's guidance, and she did that between escaping her cell and trying to blow herself up, meaning the short hair is most likely her just going full on depression which... if you're going to kill yourself, why even bother ? The timing here is really off.
But that's just nitpicking, the really egregious part... if we forget that her teaming up with Ekko is already insane considering Arcane Ekko would never do that, remove those rose tinted glasses of S2 episode 7, the Jinx Ekko remembers is a psychotic murderer who killed several of his friends, tried to blow both of them up in a desperate attempt, then performed a terrorist attack that sent both halves of the city into turmoil by killing several council members... But that's besides the point.
THE WORLD IS FUCKING ENDING, she's already building a deus ex machina makeshift helicopter and a replacement minigun in under a single day, she does not have the time to give herself a makeover, and it's even more batshit insane that Ekko would go along when he's by far the more responsible of the two.
So yeah, the finale was garbo and that Jinx design suffers for it.
me and my friend have made a consensus on new victor. we like how he looks, but we are upset his voicelines changed, we lost "Glorious Evolution!" we now have "glorious evolution."
finally someone who's chill about Viktor
Honestly I am chill about it until it is related to old league viktor. To me it worked really well as a development for the Arcane character, but to then also lose the league version made little sense. Honestly if they were adamant about arcane becoming the only canon then going so big with the threat (viktor bring arcane herald and noxus) stabbed them in the foot. Arcane worked the best in S1 when it was relationship focused and kinda grounded with its stakes.
i think everyone could agree that the design is awesome
it just that its only made for arcane tho, not rlly for league
So about Vander and Warwick i think that when Singed released him ,Warwick wasn't ready yet, he wasn't completely Warwick yet, he released him way too soon only because he needed him. That's why the second version is the "Not fully transformed" Warwick. The third version is still the "not fully transformed" Warwick but touched by arcane, it's normal that he doesn't still look completely as a wolf. And i guess he still has a face because of proportions, human faces faded because they are smaller and only eyes were left but for Warwick with that huge face it seems normal to me that it remains ,even though you can see that his face proportions are smaller and of course whole Warwick looks completely touched by the Arcane
One thing I love about enforcer Vi is just how uncomfortable she looks in it.
The other enforcers look way more comfortable in their uniforms. The popped collar that should be flat like Caitlyn’s, the proportioning design doesn’t really complement her, that stupid little pink tutu something arcane Vi would never wear.
This is Vi conforming to what Caitlyn wants. This is “Yeah sure we’ll kill my sister anything to make you feel better Cait” Vi. It looks like a costume on her and it’s so ill fitting and that just feels so good story wise.
Also goes to show that an intentionally off looking enforcer design is miles better than whatever the hell OG Vi has going on.
cannot disagree more with evolved warwick's ranking lol the whole point is that it shows how viktor's glorious evolution is flawed and wrong but also how even in the evolution warwick is still a beast among them
Interesting so you could say singed gloriously evolved Warwick in his own way
Honestly I was impressed by the Caitlyn top hat redesign, like if I was tasked with turning the og lol top hat into something that fits Arcane I would insta Fizz ult myself
21:29 I disagree about this take on Warwick. I actually really like the fact that they kept his face for his final form since it isn't animated almost at all. It shows how it is a hollowed out form of a man who once was. This is not Vander. This is not really Warwick. This is the lifeless husk that remains of Vander/Warwick used as a weapon.
His face may be expressionless in the grand scheme of things, but i think from a viewers perspective it is not look like "expressionless face" or hollowed form of a man who once was. It just looks bad.
I just really dont get the feel that you say his face supposedly should give
Glorious evolution opinion: It looks sick and I love the twisted concept, BUT removing all the technical parts hurts it phenomenally. Also his hex claw feels incredibly out of place.
So I'd give it nothing higher than A (probably something a-b ish)
These things could have easily been fixed.
1. They show how he uses magic and spare parts to "heal" people. Make the spare parts more visible in their and his design.
2. Just have him have the hexclaw before he transforms. Let Jesus put it on when he helps Warwick for some reason. Maybe he has to cut something open and oh, a hextech lazer can penetrate the ever healing wolf? Would make sense to me. ... literally solved that whole problem of his design.
Final Warwick deserves a tier even lower. Didn't even have fur anymore. We never got the wolf, we only got an ugly abomination.
That's why I couldn't give the mid transformation such a high ranking either, cause it wasn't the 2nd evolution, it was already his most wolf like form. Rather than solving it through giving him a face I would have given him a voice...
I like Oris face but her body gets worse, because she misses the " replaced part by part " theme.
For Janna: She's kinda just hextech Janna, isn't she? I like that there are many versions and depictions of her. Makes many sense... on the other hand you're right, it is one of the uglier ones.
New Viktor is great, but the problem is that old Viktor was one of the best written characters in League, and they just completely erased him.
real ones remember that Vander being Warwick was confirmed in a Wild Rift ad of all things
go doctor. yes yes you go to him
I think janna's design works pretty damn well bcus the shurima one comes more as a "helpful spirit" whereas her design in arcane feels more like a worshipped figure hence the dark and more regal design
i moaned out loud when you showed jayce with the beard
The issue with Viktor’s new design isn’t that it’s bad. If Viktor was a new character introduced in Arcane and added to league, everyone would love him. But he isn’t the Machine Herald old Viktor was. That was a unique fantasy no other character fulfils in-game, and it has been left behind for a more generic trope.
wait where's Heimer's AU look??
HIS PANTS LITERALLY MAKE A MUSIC BAR NICKY 😭😭😭