Sailing dinghy with bilge keels and polytarp sail. Launch and testing.

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  • @TrevC-co6xk
    @TrevC-co6xk  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

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    00:20 Sailing "WILLOW". Episode one, launch and test.
    00:42 We launched Willow at Gravelly Beach.
    00:47 On the Tamar river in Northern Tasmania.
    01:14 I'll be testing out the new rig and the tarpaulin sail I made for her.
    01:23 And seeing if the bilge keels I made will work.
    01:29 later in the video I will use GPS to
    measure how effective they are.
    01:45 The tarpaulin sail is just a temporary measure to check the balance and performance of the boat.
    01:54 I'll keep using it though, to see how long it lasts.
    01:57 and post updates in the 'description' part of my sail making video.
    02:07 *Sorry for the low resolution in this part.
    02:10 I couldn't get any closer to shore.
    05:39 "Hang on to that"
    05:44 "you're sailing"
    05:44 My son's first time sailing.
    05:45 "yippee!"
    05:46 " try to head for the right hand side of that row of white buildings."
    05:59 He headed out on a very long tack in 20km of very consistant wind.
    05:59 The boat stayed on course, with slight weather helm.
    06:04 The sail is only 60 sq ft and easy to handle.
    06.09 missed tying off an eylet.
    06:15 "Good stuff right?!"
    06:16 "yeah."
    06:29 Coming back downwind.
    06:52 "It's fun sailing with that little bit of swell. It's very easy to steer down wind...yeah It's staying on course so nicely. I'm barely having to touch the tiller."
    07:11 " The tide is coming up, we're actually travelling with the tide but its still going very slow. What time is it?"
    " Three forty one"
    " Ah, so the tide has been coming in for a bit less than an hour."
    07:31 When we were at the bottom of the tide and the water was still, we conducted a test to see how well Willow sails to windward.
    07:40 We had already sailed her for a while
    at this stage and I was pleased with
    the way she handled and pointed.
    07:47 ...but the scientific part of my brain wanted some data!
    07:52 As we sailed upwind, we used the
    Wavve Boating app to record our course.
    08:01 This gave us an accurate record of
    our course over ground. COG
    08:07 Then I was able to measure the tacking angles afterwards, using another app.
    08:22 Here is an animation showing us tacking upwind, synchronised with the route that we recorded at the time.
    08:29 It was in very light 6-10km/h wind, so l've speed parts up and skipped some parts.
    09:04 The first tack was 43.5°.
    09:12 I'm trying to head for that little
    white house on the shore.
    09:15 There!
    09:53 45° that time.
    10:00 The wind began to fade as we went on.
    10:24 "You've got to give it time to come about, you can't just tack and pull in the sail quickly."
    10:26 This tack and the next one were 50° each, so not as good as the first two.
    10:34 "But see, we were heading for that white house before."
    10.41 It's OK I think. Tacking through
    the wind 100° at worst and 87° at best,
    with leeway taken into account..
    10:50 ...especally-in these light winds.
    I can tell that she points higher in a little more wind.
    10:59 There's that white house now.
    11:18 I haven't had any problems turning her through the wind, even in the lightest conditions.
    11:26 Which is way better than I expected
    with such a shallow draft.
    11:34 So there we have it! That's how she sails to windward in light air, with just bilge keels and a tarpaulin lugsail.
    11:42 let's go back to that downwind sail.
    11:52"There's a bit of a breeze."
    11:58 "She must be going fast now"
    12:03 "8km/h..9km/h..and back to 8."
    12:11 "Nine is the maximum."
    12:14 " Nine is the maximum...in this wind anyway.
    12:26 "That's five knots."
    12:30 "Is that about what you expect?"
    12:31 "It's about the hull speed of the boat, so its going to take a lot more wind to push it any faster. And it's about the speed that it goes along with the outboard motor...so that is respectable."
    12:55 "Can you row and sail at the same time?" "Yeah, do you want to do it?"
    13:01 "I can't lean back much, I'm on the edge of my seat."
    13:03 "Put your feet out, and sideways a bit..that's better, that's more like it!."
    13:16 "hehe"
    13:17 "we're not actually going any quicker."
    13:17 " you're actually probably slowing us down because you are dragging..."
    13:21 "I'm not dragging"
    13:22 "Get that oar vertical."
    13:31 "There we go!"
    13:41 ☠️ Time for these pirates to pack up!
    13:52 Ok, we might work on our sail dropping skills a little bit.
    14:11 Next time I will take her on a cruise.
    14:26 Until then. 🫡

  • @boatman222345
    @boatman222345 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great little boat and I love the "make do" attitude. Most impressive!

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's my inner Huckleberry finn maybe, haha. Thanks for your comment!

  • @charlesfriedlander1563
    @charlesfriedlander1563 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For some reason I can't give you a thumbs up - so here it is. Love your boat and polytarp sail.

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😊 Thanks for that!

  • @angiepearce6479
    @angiepearce6479 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh wow Trevor this fantastic I love your channel ❤❤

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks so much Angie! 😻

  • @garrickmartin7707
    @garrickmartin7707 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, that was none too shabby. Impressed with you sailmaking. It set right pretty. Cheers

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Garrick 👍

  • @Seafariireland
    @Seafariireland หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful boat build!

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks 😊

  • @richardperriman2819
    @richardperriman2819 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What a great idea to add bilge keels to a dinghy! I've recently got an old Keyhaven Scow with a cast iron centreboard, which isn't ideal

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thankyou, I wasn't sure if they would work but they do in this case.
      Have fun with that Scow!
      Cast iron not ideal? Is it because it's brittle or something else?

  • @peterweltweit
    @peterweltweit หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    really touching !

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, yes treasured time.

  • @ranter7100
    @ranter7100 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful the skills he'll learn especially in todays world are priceless. Lovely day on the water.

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, there's nothing like it.

  • @robhosailor
    @robhosailor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful, classic lapsterrack dinghy! Excellent results sailing upwind with a lugger sail with a tarpaulin and bilge keels! Cool video! Greetings from Poland (also from lugger sails) 😀

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Greetings Robert! ( I think you are the fourth Robert to comment. My son's name is also Robert and my name spelt backwards is Rovert. Perhaps I should change my channel name to Sailing Roberts. Lol)
      Thankyou my lugsail friend for your comment. 😊

  • @MrWhynotnow
    @MrWhynotnow หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow! This is awesome Trev. She looks like she handles amazingly. Great camera work by the 1st mate there too.
    I just bumped into your channel yesterday and watched Willows transformation. Great job. Looking forward to more action.

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou..very much! 😊 and yes he did a great job with that thing.

  • @marktahu2932
    @marktahu2932 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is amazing, she looks great on the river. Wouldn't be surprised if the only thing that bothers the sail is the UV, I wonder if another option for your sails could be the painting drop sheets that Aldi has every so often, I made a hammock out of one a while back and its pretty secure, but I often thought of using it for a sail. ...mind you that requires building a boat first ....

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, Mark.That's right, I will have to sail on low UV days to get the most out of it. That hammock sounds cool. How about an Aldi drop sheet sailing canvas on frame canoe? 😉😄

  • @bendals3809
    @bendals3809 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool video the sail looks fantastic 😊

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou it was fun to make.
      (imagine if you had a boat like this stored in your garage and could go and see it anytime) 😉🤣

    • @bendals3809
      @bendals3809 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😅

  • @RobertSmith-jl4yw
    @RobertSmith-jl4yw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very apropos of my current build project: a 16-foot hard-chine micro cruiser I designed myself. I pondered long over keel arrangement and have decided to go with long, shallow, outward canted bilge keels just like yours. It is a great comfort to see them work so well. My sail will start off made from a tarp, as I'm experimenting with a junk (Chinese lug) sail. That's a nice old boat you have there. Looks like great fun. I'll be putting mine in the water at Goolwa, South Australia. Cheers.

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Robert. I think it's a combination of the 6 inch keels and the central keel being about 8 inches at the stern that makes it all work. Probably the safest way to assure it will sail well is to design the rig after you put the boat in the water. That way you can push your boat sideways in the water and work out exactly where the center of lateral resistance is and then design your sail so the center of effort is forward of that. I didn't do it that way. I figured it on paper and used a bunch of assumptions and comparisons to other designs, resulting in a lot of sleepless nights and worries till it was launched haha..
      Anyway best of luck with yours and rest assured they do work well.
      Thanks for your comment!

    • @RobertSmith-jl4yw
      @RobertSmith-jl4yw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TrevC-co6xk Thanks for the reply, Trevor. That's good advice. I've been re-consulting my library of boat designing books, including the "Bible" of junk rigs, and done all my calculations - knowing that the dynamic reality can be different to the static theory. My mast position fore-aft will be fixed as it will step in a tabernacle (for going under bridges, etc.). With any lug rig, one has some small adjustment fore-and-aft, but I've also designed in a step on the stern transom for a small mizzen in case of excessive lee helm. In addition, by making a tarp sail (cheap) I can test it first without risking a bunch of money, and make a better quality sail based on the trails with the tarp. As for keels, I will build them long enough to trim off either end to adjust the CLR if necessary, and there will be a skeg aft equal in draft to the keels, also to give stable drying out. Much fun ahead! All the best.

  • @kelpshake650
    @kelpshake650 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Watching you sailing made me scream inside "I need a boat...!!".

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      YOU REALLY DO !!!

    • @kelpshake650
      @kelpshake650 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @TrevC-co6xk it's been a long time since I want to build a sailboat, but kinda stuck in choosing what design, too much to choose only one, feel like I have to build every single design... aarrggh, I hate my mind

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know it's a huge dilemma! I've owned three different types of boats ( 24ft keel, 18ft trailer sailer and this one). They're all so different, but they take you to the same good place.

  • @Thomas_de_Meijer
    @Thomas_de_Meijer หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very impressive performance! If you can get the gps data it's possible to wrangle it into a spreadsheet and produce a polar chart, interesting for viewing speed vs angel to the wind. It looks to me like you could do with either a vang, or a traveller on the back to keep the leech tight using mainsheet tension, to get a little more out of her still. Love the standing lug!

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Thomas, yes it would be intriguing and useful to know that kind of detail. I would need something better than the app that I was using as it only measures speed in whole units ( as does my handheld Garmin GPS).
      I can easily attach a boom vang and you are right. I should try that.

    • @cvanscho
      @cvanscho หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TrevC-co6xk I was thinking the same, but possibly all you need to do is move the attachment point for your downhaul a couple of inches back on the boom. Then it becomes a "Vanghaul" (see articles by Michael Storer on his web site).

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Chris. I made provision for an attachment point for a vang about a foot back on the jaws when making them. I can make a very simple vang that loops around the boom, goes down to eye plate at the base of the mast then back through the loop to a clam cleat. It all kind of got forgotten in the exitement .I will try it next time i go out.

    • @cvanscho
      @cvanscho หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TrevC-co6xk If you combine the downhaul and the vang into one, ideally the attachment point should not be more than about 5 to 6 inches back from the mast. You also need to lead the control line to the cockpit, as the tension should (also ideally) be adjustable according to conditions and point of sail.

  • @BrownianMotionPicture
    @BrownianMotionPicture หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    top blokes

  • @ВладимирВасильев-с3ы
    @ВладимирВасильев-с3ы หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    👍✊👏

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      😊🤝🏝⛵️

  • @MrWhynotnow
    @MrWhynotnow หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Have you tried swamping her to test your flotation? How about righting her after a capsize? I'm sure you're testing all of this. Looking very good mate!

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's definitely something I want to try at some stage, especially before I venture out and do some of the little coastal hops that I'm planning in the back of my mind. I know the perfect place to give it a go. Will be interesting to see if i can get enough leverage without a centreboard. I suppose I would need to attach a weight to the transom to simulate having my outboard there as well. All in good time. I will try some river cruising and take things steady till then. :)
      Thanks again ! !

    • @MrWhynotnow
      @MrWhynotnow หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TrevC-co6xk When I used to sail my little Coronado 15 solo it was a common occurrence to capsize. I'd have to right her by myself. It's good practice. I'm sure there's a saying that goes something like "there's 2 types of dingy sailors" those that have capsized, and those that are going to". Better to be comfortable doing it and getting used to it.

    • @ranter7100
      @ranter7100 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrWhynotnow A bit like paddling kayaks, you better work out how your going to get back in when not if you arse out. If it's a two man achieving the eskimo roll is not really always an option.

    • @MrWhynotnow
      @MrWhynotnow หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ranter7100 Yeah, I've been a whitewater kayaker for years. Knowing how to get back up in any conditions isn't just a convenience, but can be a matter of survival. You have to practice until it's muscle memory. Same with sailing a dinghy. You don't want to learn far offshore in a gale.

  • @bmuller1119
    @bmuller1119 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    She's on a nice little boil! Looks like a little Catboat. Did you make or buy the air bladders, if the latter, who makes them?

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I bought them. They are not specified for marine use so I am hesitant to recommended the specific product and brand. Where I live there are no specific regulations on buoyancy and I've just chosen something that I have tested and consider safe and have taken steps to protect them.

  • @Fr99763
    @Fr99763 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very sturdy and beautiful boat. You guys obviously had a good time on the water. Your gaffe attachment and mast/sail overlap is confusing to me. Maybe you will be able to go closer upwind if you adjust that
    Cheers

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks and yes we did have a very nice time. The rig is a standing lugsail, a type of old world sail used on working boats. It's meant to overlap like that but you are right they are not the most efficient sail to windward. It's redeeming features are that it is powerful for its size, easy to set and handle, and the whole thing stores in the boat.

  • @bernardboulanger898
    @bernardboulanger898 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wire on boat is probably to stop otters and other sea life from coming aboard. Lovely job on your boat I sail a Gartsode 130 12' clinker dinghy with a standing lug. For fun I added a removable sprit and often fly a jib. Are you playing the guitar? Sounds Nick Drake-esque

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha yeah that's right, my son thought it looked like the top of a prison wall but it's security against seals probably. Yep, that's me having a dabble on the guitar.
      I like your jib idea.

    • @bernardboulanger898
      @bernardboulanger898 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TrevC-co6xk Very nice playing! , Open tuning?

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, no standard.

  • @Antipodean33
    @Antipodean33 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    lovely looking dinghy, what design is she?

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou! She's a 12ft plywood carvel built by Purden and Featherstone boat builders in Hobart Tas , Australia.1940s. The deck, keels, rudder and sailing rig are my addition.

  • @CaptainMorgan_10
    @CaptainMorgan_10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic boat!! May I ask what is is? Looks like a 1915 clinker

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou! The details about it are in this vid, th-cam.com/video/CN17GwvU5S0/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
      It's 1940s and a plywood carvel.

  • @antoinemartinier4547
    @antoinemartinier4547 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beau travail.cette voile est plutôt bien adapté à votre dériveur. de quelle matière est la voile . Merci

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Merci ! The sail is just made out of medium weight polyethylene tarp..the cheap kind from a hardware store. Thanks for watching!

  • @johnstarkie9948
    @johnstarkie9948 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a few (I hope constructive) comments.
    The second sheet block, halfway along the boom is in the wrong place unless you also have a block on the centre thwart.
    But that would obstruct the crew.
    The keels have very little to do with tacking angle.
    Measure the leeway; that’s far more important.
    GNSS is the wrong tool for measuring tacking angle. It measures COG, which will be affected by the tide even at apparently slack water.
    Use a compass.

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree it's not a perfect test because there could still be some movement in the water. It satisfies my basic curiosity as to the ability of this boat to tack upwind. I think using a compass only though will not give an accurate result as it can only show the direction you are pointing on each tack and not take into account how far you are sliding sideways. GPS is giving an accurate overall picture..I will try it on a lake at some stage.

  • @kennethm.pricejr.8921
    @kennethm.pricejr.8921 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What kid wouldn't benefit from a ride on this boat?

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน

      This big kid certainly does :)

  • @Олександр-в1б6ю
    @Олександр-в1б6ю หลายเดือนก่อน

    Какая плотность брезента? Спасибо.

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is 100g/m2. It is adequate but if you can get 150g it would be perfect.

    • @Олександр-в1б6ю
      @Олександр-в1б6ю หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Спасибо. Имею 200 г/м2, буду пробывать….

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That will work very well!

    • @Олександр-в1б6ю
      @Олександр-в1б6ю หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TrevC-co6xkспасибо! А какая у вас площадь паруса, на этой лодке? ( S m2)

    • @TrevC-co6xk
      @TrevC-co6xk  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      5.6 m2. It is a bit small for this size boat. I find it comfortable and relaxing though..especially when it gets windy. No need to reef.