@@DrZaius3141 Show me one 'well' implemented democracy in the world? ... except Switzerland perhaps. In most cases Democracies are little more than either oligarchies or aristocracies with extra steps/middlemen/strawmen. Most modern western democracies are ridden with inefficiencies, no clear responisibilities (and mostly no accountability), blame-shifting and Lobbyism up to and beyond their ears. Sry if I seem a bit cynical, but I think someone else put it quite eloquently yet plainly: 'Show me a politican and I show you a crook.'.
@@TheDistractingGamer it's like a perfect communist regime: eventually some power-hungry moron is gonna be in charge, and you go from "dream political utopia" to "whoops we got another authoritarian populist regime, how'd that happen?"
"Now that's a fascinating idea, but if I might suggest an alternative? How about you all just do what I tell you to without question and that way I won't have to bring an army of heavily armed and armoured knights into this city and kill every fifth person living here? How's that sound?"
It has been suggested than a benign dictator may be the best form of governance, as humans seem to continue to display the worst tendencies, so require rules.
@@richardkerver3563 The best form of governance is when someone who believes all the things I believe has absolute control and no one else gets any say in anything.
@@richardkerver3563 if you could find someone who was absolutely incorruptable; highly intelligent; and genuinely cared about the people they ruled over, then yes it would be because you never have to worry about nothing being done. But good luck finding that.
The "way better than anything on Game of Thrones" joke about an off-screen battle is even funnier now but also more tragic... Galavant's final battle was IMO better than the Inconvenient Evening on GoT where you couldn't see anything onscreen anyway.
Of course, there was a lot of representative institutions that existed in the middle ages that was swept away or atrophied with the rise of absolute monarchies. Emerging democracies looked to these old institutions for templates of how they should organize during the revolutions of the 18th and 19th centuries, rather than coming up with them whole cloth or looking solely to Ancient Rome or Athens. Though the representative democracy of the commons of course was always dominated by elites among the commoners as the song suggests. ;)
you're so right, I think a lot of people believe that absolute monarchy was a medieval thing but centralization was really only (re)invented in the 16th century (most notably by Charles 5 of Spain)
Most monachys where semi demorcasys, as in the nobel decided with the King. The king Rarely ever had and absolute say, Else things wuldnt have been this shitty back then
@@MattFyrm interesting fact about a certain monarchy. During the renaissance, poland had an elected monarchy where every noble in Poland had a vote to who would be king, the laws that determined who was a noble were unusually open leading to millions voting for their monarch. This level of sufferege wouldn't be seen anywhere in the world for several centuries.
@@countjondi9672 interesting, i think I had heard something about this before. Are you referring to real numbers when you say millions? Cause if what I just looked up is true the population of the polish-lithuanian commonwealth around 1490 was about 8 million which would, if millions actually voted, mean like at least a fourth of the population which would be *huge*.
the thing about kings was that they had the most amount of friends with sharp, pointy things that also said they were the king. the people didnt all need to agree, just enough with the biggest sharp, pointy things.
@@poppers7317 That's a bit revisionist. Lords and kings tended to come about by being the ones who were protecting the peasants from the barbarians that were slaughtering them. They also 'owned' the land the peasants were on.
@@seanrea550 There is a problem with each direct comparison. Rome is the least fitting one (also depends on the era). When it comes to Athenian democracy every citizen had a vote, depending on the era that would be every rich man able to buy his own armor (early hoplite era) or later on every man since they grew more crucial to row the triremes against the Persians and against Sparta. The caveat (not the poor ones) fits well with the early US where only landowning man could vote and matters were more often decided with direct voting. The US is a democratic republic and shares combines elements from both.
I don't know, the 90's 80's 70's and arguably the 60's where all pretty fare. Everyone gets a vote no matter what you look like or what you believe in. Depending on who your voting for, you can even vote if you aren't a citizen or vote twice, or vote after your dead.
@@frankficcle7081 Except that people tried to keep minorities from voting with every nasty trick short of waving pistols in their faces, and probably that too.
That's funny, being real w/humor and the little ditty is titled "That's Democracy". But yea, oligarchy or corpoacary or plutocracy or whatever. This was posted some time ago, but now in 2021 after the Storming of the Capitol by alt-right extremists, we're all now wondering, WTF happened to American Democracy? (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol). The correct description, however, is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anocracy#Americas
@@JensMorrison You and I both know the guards of a king who wasted his time posting dumb shit in TH-cam comments sections would betray him in a heartbeat.
Every system of government is only as good as its people. If the people are corrupt, & bigoted then the system too shall be. Be it a democracy, or otherwise.
Why haven't I seen this before LOLOL hilarious! "Everyone gets a say!!" "The pale ones ... and we only mean the male ones" .. "humm pretty progressive for the middle ages".. DIED!! LOLOL
Republican are truly trying to take us back to this, the version of democracy. The landed- Merchant: And the wealthy- Friar: And the pious- Shopkeeper: And the healthy- Butcher: And the straight ones- Baker: And the pale ones- Butcher: And we only mean the male ones! Peasant John: If you're all of the above, then you're ok!
This reminds me if I remember correct Benjamin Franklin once said regarding a pure democracy that A pure democracy is nothing but two wolves strong arming the sheep.
You mean Matt Lucas, the guy doing most of the singing? I mean he's been in a lot of things, Doctor Who he played Nardole, the Disney live-action version of Alice in Wonderland he played Tweedledum, and Tweedledee, he co-created and played a lot of characters in Little Britain, and he was in Community too
Maybe one day we will recognize that children, too, deserve to vote. Then we will have the numbers to vote ourselves more money and live happily ever after.
0:58 This reminds me of a cartoon panel depicting the US founding fathers drafting the Constitution with the speech bubble "'We the white, male, land owners...' Naw, too long. 'We the people...'"
As much shade that gets thrown at them, and as imperfect as they were, they were very careful to work within the reality of their day but still build a foundation that could grow to encompass all of humanity. They even built in mechanisms to change the fundamental basis of government if necessary, while restraining authoritarianism on one hand, and the tyranny of the majority on the other. You don't blame a seed for not looking like the tree it will become, and you don't fault a tree for not being perfect as a seed.
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Progressive for the middle ages
eh... loo
Hes not wrong
depends on where
Technically, this is what the US did when they were first founded
@@falnesioghander6929 Well this is likely set in England in the Middle Ages.
I am a strong supporter of one-man one-vote democracy.
As long as I'm the man with the vote, it's the best system going.
Hi, Lord Vetinari!
@@heatherrockwell9012 Hello!
I've always thought I would make a bloody good dictator tbh. People will learn to love my benevolent tyranny.
Awe another Authoritarian Centerist I see.
😄
@@misterchubbikins Who said anything about centrism?
Democracy but the people are retarded lol m.th-cam.com/video/LhpI23fynEE/w-d-xo.html
As Arthur once said, “Let’s not go to Camelot, it’s a silly place”
I recently learned that at the time of King Arthur, castles had not been a thing yet in England.
Which makes Camelot a silly place indeed.
T'is a silly place*
@@abyssstrider2547 ☝
@@davidwuhrer6704 well, its just a model
Cameron? Ha, sd if that name would be famoud
They threw shade at monarchy AND democracy with this bit. Absolute genius.
Only on badly implemented democracy, though.
true democracy is not sustainable
@@DrZaius3141 Show me one 'well' implemented democracy in the world? ... except Switzerland perhaps.
In most cases Democracies are little more than either oligarchies or aristocracies with extra steps/middlemen/strawmen.
Most modern western democracies are ridden with inefficiencies, no clear responisibilities (and mostly no accountability), blame-shifting and Lobbyism up to and beyond their ears.
Sry if I seem a bit cynical, but I think someone else put it quite eloquently yet plainly: 'Show me a politican and I show you a crook.'.
@@TheDistractingGamer it's like a perfect communist regime: eventually some power-hungry moron is gonna be in charge, and you go from "dream political utopia" to "whoops we got another authoritarian populist regime, how'd that happen?"
@@MajorCoolD ya know, there is such a thing as naive cynicism
This was a much better joke towards democracy than what we got with Game of Thrones...
The entirety of Season 8 was the joke
This was a much betger joke towards democracy than what we got with the United States.
@@Sablus Yeah ... but not a funny one ...
@@Sablus Season 8? Didn't knew it is out already. Thought they only showed the outtakes.
@@Sablus Why do people concentrate on Season 8? The last good season was Season 4. Why were people expecting a decent ending?
Always appreciated the Monty Python and the Holy Grail constitutional peasant reference here ^□^
I just watched that movie and thought of this scene immediately.
Right. That’s what I was just about to comment lol.
p sure the one in monty python is an anarcho syndicalist
wasn't Holy Grail's peasants more an anarcho-socialist commune?
@@romxxii *anarcho-syndicalist.
"Now that's a fascinating idea, but if I might suggest an alternative? How about you all just do what I tell you to without question and that way I won't have to bring an army of heavily armed and armoured knights into this city and kill every fifth person living here? How's that sound?"
It has been suggested than a benign dictator may be the best form of governance, as humans seem to continue to display the worst tendencies, so require rules.
Democracy is the worst form of government ever devised, except all the other ones we tried.
@@richardkerver3563 The best form of governance is when someone who believes all the things I believe has absolute control and no one else gets any say in anything.
@@richardkerver3563 if you could find someone who was absolutely incorruptable; highly intelligent; and genuinely cared about the people they ruled over, then yes it would be because you never have to worry about nothing being done. But good luck finding that.
@@cryofpaine Are you talking about dictatorships, or representative democracies?
“Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.”
-Winston Churchill
-The bloke that caused the Bengal Famine
Democratic republics are still better than democracies
@@franklugo6928 a democratic republic is a type of democracy
@@jameshayes-barber9340 there's enough of a difference for them to be different.
_"Everybody gets to choose except the you know who's"_ is the best line and you didn't even notice the first two times you watched this video
What do you mean?
@@elijahtiemens5532 Jews rhymes with 'who's'
Actually voting was considered un democratic institution back in that time
@@fieldy409 Well now they control congress so make of that as you will.
I couldn't even finish the first play through. Fucking stupid childish shit.
Game of Thrones alternate ending.
Certainly better than the one we got
This show had a better ending than game of thrones...that's both sad and hilarious.
The "way better than anything on Game of Thrones" joke about an off-screen battle is even funnier now but also more tragic... Galavant's final battle was IMO better than the Inconvenient Evening on GoT where you couldn't see anything onscreen anyway.
@@shikuthetempest yes I found the end of Season 7 a bit open. And than they only showed the outtakes of Season 8.
Of course, there was a lot of representative institutions that existed in the middle ages that was swept away or atrophied with the rise of absolute monarchies. Emerging democracies looked to these old institutions for templates of how they should organize during the revolutions of the 18th and 19th centuries, rather than coming up with them whole cloth or looking solely to Ancient Rome or Athens. Though the representative democracy of the commons of course was always dominated by elites among the commoners as the song suggests. ;)
you're so right, I think a lot of people believe that absolute monarchy was a medieval thing but centralization was really only (re)invented in the 16th century (most notably by Charles 5 of Spain)
Most monachys where semi demorcasys, as in the nobel decided with the King.
The king Rarely ever had and absolute say, Else things wuldnt have been this shitty back then
@@theonesithtorulethemall the system you're describing is an aristocracy not a mini democracy :p
@@MattFyrm interesting fact about a certain monarchy. During the renaissance, poland had an elected monarchy where every noble in Poland had a vote to who would be king, the laws that determined who was a noble were unusually open leading to millions voting for their monarch. This level of sufferege wouldn't be seen anywhere in the world for several centuries.
@@countjondi9672 interesting, i think I had heard something about this before.
Are you referring to real numbers when you say millions? Cause if what I just looked up is true the population of the polish-lithuanian commonwealth around 1490 was about 8 million which would, if millions actually voted, mean like at least a fourth of the population which would be *huge*.
When I thought this show couldn't get more Monty Python.
the thing about kings was that they had the most amount of friends with sharp, pointy things that also said they were the king.
the people didnt all need to agree, just enough with the biggest sharp, pointy things.
But slaughtering peasants got tedious after a while so they invented the whole "Divine right of kings" thing.
@@poppers7317 That's a bit revisionist. Lords and kings tended to come about by being the ones who were protecting the peasants from the barbarians that were slaughtering them. They also 'owned' the land the peasants were on.
Galavant is such an underrated masterpiece
Yeah I was a bit young when I first watched it but it's absolutely brilliant. I mean how could it not be with the guy who plays Lassiter being in it?
Agreed.
I cannot agree enough with that.
As crazy as it sounds, this sums up the history of humanity perfectly.
It sums up the past four years.
What "history of humans"
invention of democracy maybe...which is wait! the title...
Why are you talking nonsense and why are you upvoting it
So, its better that a none captain is the one that shall stear a ship?
@@whade62000 could be talking about the show as a whole tho thats still kinda just medieval ages
Yes but needed to be bumped up to 11 instead of this 6-7 in this skit.
I'm so glad this popped up in my recommendation! Galavant was such a gem of a show! I should re-watch it
Ah I miss this show. Really wish it would come back. But it wouldnt be the same without Timothy Omundson since he had a stroke...
He's been doing a lot better lately. Not 100%, but definitely a success story in terms of stroke recovery all things considered.
What show is it?
@@Chebab-Chebab Galavant
@@Keonyn Thanks. Never heard of it. Any good?
@@Chebab-Chebab I'm very curious how you ended up on this video in the first place without having heard of galavant
This does do a good job showcasing the Benjamin Franklin quote. "A democracy is just two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner."
This show was always highly underrated
This was a show? I have been scrolling down these comments to find the name of the source. What is it, Anj?
@@brickhurl9939 Galavant
So, basically they are going to resurrect Rome's system of government.
Without the Tribune of the people or proletariat rioting... so worse.
I'd say ancient Athens would be a better equivalent :)
Or it's a prequal to the founding of the US government.
That was a description of Athenian democracy. Rome was a republic, elected or appointed representatives as is the US.
@@seanrea550 There is a problem with each direct comparison. Rome is the least fitting one (also depends on the era). When it comes to Athenian democracy every citizen had a vote, depending on the era that would be every rich man able to buy his own armor (early hoplite era) or later on every man since they grew more crucial to row the triremes against the Persians and against Sparta.
The caveat (not the poor ones) fits well with the early US where only landowning man could vote and matters were more often decided with direct voting.
The US is a democratic republic and shares combines elements from both.
This has Monty Python all over it. Bless them for making this. 😂
Just showed this to my friend and as soon as the clip finished she told me we had to watch this show. Mission Accomplished!!
Thank Monty Python for building the foundations for this joke ;)
Well . . . it’s a step in the right direction.
No, it isn't.
Sums up the 20th century pretty well.
You must be confused
What?
How does this represent the 1900s?
I don't know, the 90's 80's 70's and arguably the 60's where all pretty fare. Everyone gets a vote no matter what you look like or what you believe in. Depending on who your voting for, you can even vote if you aren't a citizen or vote twice, or vote after your dead.
@@frankficcle7081 Except that people tried to keep minorities from voting with every nasty trick short of waving pistols in their faces, and probably that too.
It took me a little too long to realize this wasn't the Doctor who clip.
So this is the shenanigans that Nardole gets up to when he's not keeping the Doctor from doing ridiculous things...
Ok, I gotta watch this show
The fact that they managed to give poignant political commentary while staying consistently hillarious is AMAZING
Everyone: Is that Nardole?
Me: Is that Thenadier?
I loved this show.
This show was underrated. I need so much more.
I miss this show.
What show is it?
@@Chicklo11 Galavant
That's Oligarchy
That's funny, being real w/humor and the little ditty is titled "That's Democracy". But yea, oligarchy or corpoacary or plutocracy or whatever. This was posted some time ago, but now in 2021 after the Storming of the Capitol by alt-right extremists, we're all now wondering, WTF happened to American Democracy? (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_storming_of_the_United_States_Capitol). The correct description, however, is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anocracy#Americas
"a fairer way" proceeds to elaborate on who is excluded ha at least monarchy excluded everybody
This is my favorite song from the show.
which show is this?
Galavant
@@tearzpearl Cheers mate, I was looking for this question!
@@jocadana5942 Cheers mate, I was looking for this answer.
Oh man this show is a damn treasure, and Omundson was the best thing about it, I will not not accept dissent on this 😂😂😂😂
What. Why have I not found this show?!
Ditto!
0:29 Why does it sounds like Galavant is dreading the coming musical number? I thought he loved those?
Only his musical numbers 😂
For future reference, King Richard also is the voice for Aric Jorgan in SWTOR.
" And there was much rejoicing "
If Nardol says it, it might be right... maybe.
We’re an anarcho-syndicalist commune
"Progressive for the Middle Ages."
Well you gotta start somewhere.
"Yeah, that sounds great. Guards, off with their heads." -Me, as King.
Shame your guards outvote you eight to one
@@JensMorrison Go ahead and look up the Praetorian Guard for me.
@@JensMorrison You and I both know the guards of a king who wasted his time posting dumb shit in TH-cam comments sections would betray him in a heartbeat.
I was so close I'm s health straight white man but the one thing stopping me is I'm Irish
Nah its cause you don't own land or subscribe to our very particular flavour of our religion
The irony is that Matt Lucas wouldn’t be able to vote in this society he’s singing about
Lol why?
@@briannalee1998 Because he’s not straight. He’s gay.
Thats part of the joke
@@jonathaniyere3203 That’s the only way the joke works. If a straight white man who is able bodied told it, the joke doesn’t work.
...and the Gingers....wait? WHAT?!?!
And now we have a system built for corporations to rule the country...cool
GALAVANT. its called GALAVANT.
"He went into the enchanted Forrest and never came out again... or maybe I got that backwards"
Galavant was a gem.
I came for Lassie, I stayed for the song
What a ringing endorsement for monarchy
Phrygian cap at 1:12!
What a reference!
Very progress democracy during the early time of the creation of the article of confederation
And that's, folks, was how half of the village was hanged later that afternoon.
Literally the American Revolution
Every system of government is only as good as its people. If the people are corrupt, & bigoted then the system too shall be. Be it a democracy, or otherwise.
Now I realize who Rhett looks like now.
Why haven't I seen this before LOLOL hilarious!
"Everyone gets a say!!"
"The pale ones ... and we only mean the male ones"
.. "humm pretty progressive for the middle ages".. DIED!! LOLOL
Excellent.... :D
Matt Lucas is my spirit animal.
Republican are truly trying to take us back to this, the version of democracy.
The landed-
Merchant: And the wealthy-
Friar: And the pious-
Shopkeeper: And the healthy-
Butcher: And the straight ones-
Baker: And the pale ones-
Butcher: And we only mean the male ones!
Peasant John: If you're all of the above, then you're ok!
_Democracy is two wolves and a lamb, voting on what to have for lunch._
Spoken like a true enemy of the people.
And other forms of government is one wolf and two lambs where the wolve picks lunch.
I’m reminded of Monty python
Wait a tick, that bloke at the beginning. That's Nardole, innit?
The
*Doctor who*
And
*Psych*
Crossover Musical
Pure democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner.
It might be two sheep and one wolf voting what to eat for dinner. Or a sheep, a cow and a wolf. Why does it have to be two wolves?
This reminds me if I remember correct Benjamin Franklin once said regarding a pure democracy that A pure democracy is nothing but two wolves strong arming the sheep.
It may be paraphrased a bit. But I think you have it correct.
Did the doctor leave Nardole in the past to introduce democracy.
For all you doctor who fans
Man, I miss Galavant 😩
Cain how he spent his mid-evil times
Reminds me of Novgorod...before the Vikings, Teutons and Mongols that is.
Lassiter growin that beard out let's gooo
I learned about this. It's the age of enlightement
How did I miss Matt Lucas in this show the first time around?
Is that Nardole?
I'm afraid so :P
Yes
I hadn't rewatched this in a while and I was listening to the soundtrack. I was like....... That sounds like...........
I had to look to see :P
He ruled firmly, but wisely
When Dennis the peasant gets his way.
Great commentary at the end there
Why does that guys voice sound so familiar? Like I've heard it everywhere but now I'm drawing a blank...
You mean Matt Lucas, the guy doing most of the singing? I mean he's been in a lot of things, Doctor Who he played Nardole, the Disney live-action version of Alice in Wonderland he played Tweedledum, and Tweedledee, he co-created and played a lot of characters in Little Britain, and he was in Community too
This was really well done. Would not fly with todays social-political landscape. Real shame. Galavant may have been cheap, but it was a banger
The two main guys look from a similar show but whose plot is totally serious
I saw Cain from spn and had to watch.
So god damn accurate
Hey that's the guy from Krod Mandoon!
Hey it's the guy from gbbo! And Cain from spn (HOT.)
Matt Lucas is great in this scene.
Truth.
This show was the fantasy version of Firefly - gone too soon.
Hey sounds like a good plan
Maybe one day we will recognize that children, too, deserve to vote. Then we will have the numbers to vote ourselves more money and live happily ever after.
The people who control voting laws will make sure that never happens.
😂😂😂what show is this my wife would love it😂
Galavant! It was so underrated.
Reminds me of Monty Python and the holy grail.
I just hear nardol from doctor who whenever this man speaks
That's why a king has an army to put peasants in their place
That ending got me
This was a great show
What was this?
It's called Galavant
0:58
This reminds me of a cartoon panel depicting the US founding fathers drafting the Constitution with the speech bubble "'We the white, male, land owners...' Naw, too long. 'We the people...'"
As much shade that gets thrown at them, and as imperfect as they were, they were very careful to work within the reality of their day but still build a foundation that could grow to encompass all of humanity. They even built in mechanisms to change the fundamental basis of government if necessary, while restraining authoritarianism on one hand, and the tyranny of the majority on the other. You don't blame a seed for not looking like the tree it will become, and you don't fault a tree for not being perfect as a seed.
@@Spinolio You're funny. You actually believe that?
It's Twitter the musical
I miss this show, why couldn't Hulu or Netflix have saved it.
What is the name? It looks fun
@@krystofik100 Galavant, it was on ABC. It was a musical comedy.
@@thersites3173 with songwriting from one of the guys responsible for Disney's golden age of animation.
YOU GOT YOUR WISH!! Menken just tweeted that it’s on Hulu! It was on Netflix for like…5 seconds 😆
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 Great! If enough people watch it, maybe they will start making new episodes. Let the binge begin.