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Growing Garlic From TRUE Seed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2014
- I only know this to be true for HARDNECK varieties of garic.
The most common ways of propogating garlic is by planting individual cloves of garlic (broken off of a head of garlic) OR by letting the umbrels (what you might call the bloom of the garlic) at the end of the scape develop. Bulbils will develop at the end of the scape and these can be planted after a period of dormancy.
However, both of these methods are asexual reproduction of the garlic. This is good for maintaining the same variety/cultivar of garlic. This can also be bad since pest, viruses, etc can develop after you have grown the same variety for several generations.
You can get your garlic into sexual reproduction though! :) Carefully remove the bulbils from the umbrel and let the blooms develop. The blooms will develop small seed similar in size to onion seed (both of the allium family).
Plant the seeds and you have your own variety of garlic!
Check out this link for more information:
garlicseed.blog...
I was given some bulbils a few years ago and planted them that fall , in spring I had 50 garlic plants. Three years later I have over a hundred in different stages of growth , first year bulbils , second year rounds and full heads , I haven't bought garlic in years. I always let one or two scapes mature to get bulbils to plant and give away , the rest of the scapes I make garlic butter with.
I actually got garlic seeds when I forgot about the Garlic and let it run its course. Came back and saw the flower on top.. let it go again and came back and it was all dried up with the seeds ready for me to harvest. The scape on it was nice and strong. I cant believe the squirrels and wind didnt break it which is what usually happens to me when i grow garlic.
Did they grow into nice garlic bulbs for ya?
Same here
@@NMW80 yes mine had 6 bulbs of garlic under it
Been a complete newb to gardening, I've searched the internet back and forth to find what you said in the first sentence of your video.
Cheers mate!
Thanks for the information. I have just removed the bulbs from my purple stripe garlic and my German hardy should be ready in a week or two.
I am waiting for the scape to flower to collect the seed. If I get any plants I will be sure to send you some of the seeds next year.
I enjoyed your video thank you, please demonstrate how you grow garlic from scaps.
For a gardener, your hands are very clean! Thanks for the tips!
Perfect, very informative. Thanks!
very nice informations (y)
my bees love my onion flowers.. I will test garlic now
Very good video. Your the first to give me much needed additional info. Thank you!
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WellMed it's been a few years I read some of your comments were it didn't work the first time and you were going to try again we would love another video or some feedback.
True seed method takes much too long...about 3 years to get cloves. The plants never gets developed enough in one season to make bulbs. If you’re not in a rush, I say let them fall and over-winter on their own. Be prepared for a crazy number of plants though as each flower can have over 100 seeds!
Actually only true for soft necks. Hard necks produce true seeds their first year.
first, I LOVE how concise and simple you made this information!! Thank you!! Wondering if you can help in the same way bc I need toddler explanations lol.
I had a friend pass away 6wks ago that had a wonderful garden. We’ve just now been allowed to go work in her garden to see what’s salvageable etc. I pulled some of her garlic today to see and noticed they had flowered, bulbs were very small, and stems were pretty hard at bottom but green up top. When I started to check out the blooms, they were 100% seed. Naturally, I kept those but now what do I do with the tiny bulbs of garlic? Idk if they were that small bc it’s been neglected for so long or if they just were indeed that small.
I wish I could add a picture for you to see what I mean lol. Regardless, any help you can give would be amazing!!!
I know nothing about garlic plants. 😮 What would be best to do? Transplant them back into my yard? Consider it a loss? Help! Lol I consume too much garlic so it’d be wonderful to be able to keep this alive and growing thru the season!! I’m in middle of watching tons of YT videos to learn and yours has been the best by far!! Oh btw, I am in on western tip of IL so same zone as you, I’d imagine. (Literally the most western part you can go, aka nipp!e of IL 😂
The small heads of garlic are likely from one of two reasons, or both. The first is if the bulbs of garlic were planted too close to each other. Garlic should be planted with about 8 inch spacing. About the width if you spread your thumb and pinky finger apart. The second likely reason was that the scape and bloom were not removed. When they are not removed the plant has to put energy into the scape as well as the bulb which can reduce the size of the bulb.
What you currently have are small bulbs that you can cure (dry out- put them in the basement or hang them in your garage) and then use. Even if smaller than normal you have perfectly good garlic. The bloom at the top of the scape is called an umbel. It is comprised of both bulbils and flowers that produce seed. What you are describing as seed are actually bulbils. These are essentially small cloves of garlic. Bulbil size can vary but they are likely a little smaller than a green pea. Bulbils can be separated from umbel and they can also be cured.
You can eat most of the garlic (bulbils are too small) over the next couple of months. In Northern IL garlic is best if planted around the end of October. I plant mine every year right around Halloween.
The bigger the clove you plant the more energy the plant has to develop into a large head of garlic the next year. If you want to grow a bunch of garlic plants you can plant the bulbils 4-6 inches apart. They first year they will develop into small heads of garlic. Then you would have a much larger supply of garlic bulbs the following year. Most years I cut off all of the scapes as they start to develop. They are great recipes out there for grilling them or making them into garlic scape pesto, etc.
Bulbils let you increase your number of garlic plants much faster since there are many more bulbils than garlic cloves. Garlic cloves, if you plants the largest cloves you harvested will give you the biggest heads of garlic the following year.
That was very informative.
Oh my goodness I just cut the top of one of my scapes I didn’t know what it was called until I decided to look up garlic seed … l put so many pictures of this bulb on internet and nobody knew what it was , Now l have to get the small head in some water to see if l get seeds , thank you So much
hey these bulblets remind me of walking onions
Very interesting! I’m gonna try planting some bulbils!
Very interesting just like the bublis on how to be saving the actual seeds. I want to be trying this so I can get varieties that will stand to the climate, environment, etc of the area I am in.
How to plant garlic by seeds ?
soak the seeds in warm water 1 or 2 days and wrap seeds with paper towel , Incubate seeds for root growth.Then plant directly in the soil pot. How long re pot to underground ?
Thanks
I lost mine garlic in the herb garden lol.. Digging out today I think depending on weather.
did you update this in a new video? I want to try growing some garlic to get the seeds!
TY, From Saltspring Island. BC Canada. Im trying this very experiment now...Happy to see a fellow Gardener providing useful info.. Oquestions ...If you cut the scape and place in water, How much stock do you leave on? How do you keep it upright? are you using a growth hormone in the water? Direct sunlight or partial indoor light?
Hi Ozzy, it doesn't really how much stock you leave on. I usually cut the scape off a couple of inches above the last leaf of the plant. I put the scapes in a vase to keep them upright. You do not need to put any growth hormone in the water, plain water is just fine. Full to partial sun is good.
@@nedcooke TY brother...happy gardening...
Hi John, here is the link for the article. garlicseed.blogspot.com/p/growing-garlic-from-true-seed.html
I planted my first batch of true seed May 1st. So far, nothing has germinated. Last year I removed the scapes and grew kept them in a glass of water. This year I may try leaving a couple of scapes on the plant, removing the bulbils and then let the scape dry out attached to the plant.
I read that article - my biggest question is once you have sprouted your seeds, how do you care for them to grow into eventual bulbs?
@@tahursh637 Let them grow until they start to fall over and turn brown this year. Harvest, dust off most of the dirt. Put them in cool dry place (basement is a good idea). Then plant again around a week or two before the fall frosts (plant with more spacing- 4 inches or so). You'll have small bulbs that will develop next year. Do the same thing as last year, then plant again the following fall with more space (6 inches). Next year you will have full sized heads of garlic!
@Ned Cooke I'm growing from seed. I think it's at least a 3 year production until I can MAYBE see full bulbs of cloves...I was wondering what to do with them in between planting seasons to keep them alive...?
@@tahursh637 Not necessarily. 3 years to "full" grown heads of garlic but you will get nice sized heads of garlic next year. Especially from the seeds that grow well this year. The larger the bulb you pull out of the ground this summer will lead to a larger head of garlic next year.
Best info yet ! And I’m in Chicago too so I’m so happy to find someone in the same climate ! Also- once you put in the fridge is there a special way you should keep them until fall?
Hi! Just put them in your basement or a dark closet until fall. I plant right around Halloween each year.
THANK YOU! I have been trying to figure how to get true seed for years. Your video somehow made it click, where written word did not make it clear. I am so sorry I didn't see this before I cut the bulbils off, thinking they were the seed. Oh well. Next year! I'm saving this video for reference. I understand the seed is about onion seed size.
You dont have to be desprate gosh
@@fidget_lolz6639 not desperate, Curious is the word. I enjoy gardening and learning new things. In 72 years, it is fun to find something you want to explore...just you wait!
Good article. At 2.17 when you didn't know! And broke it off???? It was possibly a bulbil shooting its leaves. A little zen there and less heavy handedness would picture better.
Saved som seeds fr last year.feb started them up in green house n now they r all up doing well if weather will be nice want to replant them out side soo hope all go good havevu done that
Mine have seed pods a lot of seed pods, chesnok red seems to be a very fertile garlic cultivar.
Once you remove every bulbil the flowers really start to go crazy.
A bunch of little green bees and some wasps were absolutely loving the flowers and they pollinated them for me.
Now I gotta wait for the pods to dry and once the seeds are available I need to plant them come this winter or in the late fall. I’m happy if I can get at least like 10 plants.
Apparently it’s gets much easier the more you do it every generation gets more sexual reproduction focused and makes less bulbils more seeds and better quality seeds that germinate better with better vigor.
I live somewhere hot with no freezes so getting them adapted to my zone is very important, even though they didn’t struggle so much. The plants went through brutal 100+ heat and some dry spells when I forgot to water so hopefully the offspring become tough little bastards lol.
I've had the same garlic for over 40years and I've never replanted it but I always pinch off the head before it flowers. Can you explain this? Toby Adams
Great job, can one eat the bobles
Awesome job Ned and thanks for sharing !😊👍
Oh goody goody! I had 3 scapes go bulbils. I am going to experiment too. Is there a sequel to this?
Not bulbils you’re supposed to remove them. The bulbils kill the flowers where the actual seed comes from.
Thanks. My German Hardneck just started producing scapes. I will let them dry on the plant and see what happens.
Hey its been six years, did ya have any success growing from seed ? tks....
Bull Bills...... Bull Bills..... BULBILS
Thanks a million. This was most helpful.
great video! Thank you for your enery!
That garlic top is edible. I will eat it so that it will not waste any energy in developing the garlic seeds. This way the garlic clove will be larger.
The point of this method is to get new genetics, "landrace gardening"
This provides disease resistance and potentially new flavors, and possibly bigger bulbs in future crops if that's what you select for.
@@zedmeinhardt3404 Just let a couple of them to flower and eat the rest. Garlics, like green onions, have a lot of seeds in just one flower.
Thank you!!!!
bulbil is the word, or bulblet
Thank you for sharing a video plants garlic Yes garlic is a medicine in high blood right.
I have a tonnnnn of these seeds 🎉
So what I would like to do is do what you're doing but cross pollinated with a chili plant to see if it produces a spicy garlic lol or if the garlic bloom produces pollen use the pollen off the garlic to pollinate a chili plant a decent spicy chili plant and then take that chili do the whole situation and dry and get out etc replanning it to see if you get a garlic spicy chili
Mini garlic cloves lmao
Thanks for your focus. Great info. What about the seed stuck in the stalk? I just harvested my crop and I'm finding a bulge in the stalk. What's that?
I would like to try to from garlic from true seeds this fall. I am having difficulty finding information on how to collect the seeds and when to harvest them. Can you share the title of the article you found this information.
John Kleinschmidt did you evet find out cause now i have same question. Thanks in advance
Here you go: garlicseed.blogspot.com/p/growing-garlic-from-true-seed.html
What an amazing plant. Do you need at least one other garlic plant in bloom to pollinate the other blooms or will they also pollinate themselves with the help of the insects?
They self pollinate with the help of insects...but the only reason people go through all this trouble is to cross pollinate so as to get unique varieties or types that are hardy and adapt to their environment
@@adnanmumin2390you don’t need cross pollination for adaption successive generations should be variable enough that they will adapt in a few seasons.
That should read allium.
Very interesting. I'm also gonna save 3 from each type i have.
Hello Ned, I had a question on planting the seeds. Once they have been dried out did you plant them directly into the ground in the fall or did you try to grow them indoors? I have two varieties of hardneck garlic growing and i am going to try to get both the germinate by removing the bubils from the scapes to produce seed.
***** Hey John, no I took the dried flowers and put them in a bowl to let them continue drying out. They stayed in my unheated garage over the winter and then I separated the seeds in the spring. Take a look at the article below though. He recommends soaking them in a bleach solution and then putting them in the freezer for a couple of weeks. I did not do this- although I did leave them in the garage which would be the same as the freezer. To date no seeds have germinated. I have heard of people having seeds germinate 60-90 days after planting so there is still some hope but the odds are not looking good for my first attempt. :) I think I am going to leave 3 scapes on this year and see if I notice a size difference in the seed. Larger size roughly translating to more viable seed.
Thanks for sharing
Hi Ned, So have you ever mistaken nothoscordum bivalve for green onion? I actually had thought it was real green onion...and ended up getting sick. P.S Your videos are super helpful.
Please explain why you got sick?
Are you allergic?
I don't understand.
Sorry I looked it up, I get it.
I think that you could get hybrid plants if the garlic is polinated by an onion, leek or wild aliun.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Do you store them in the refrigerator until you’re ready to plant the tiny bulbs?
You can, but I would just put them in a dark spot in the basement. You might put a fan on them to cure them/dry them out.
Hmmm don’t know what that is or if it’s important... you can break that off and toss it away. Lol 😂
yeah i was thinking i would have ate it !
Hi..those must be the soft neck garlic because they are not rounded scapes?could you eat the bulbils?also if you plant tge bulbils will they grow big garlic cloves?Thanks
I dont think soft neck grow scapes. Takes 3 years to get a full size head of garlic after planting those bulbils
Had any luck getting and growing true seed?
Mike K. Shurtleff I would like to know if he’s had any luck. I’ve just had my first garlic harvest and left two garlic intact and the scapes and now I have the seed heads just about opening.
@@morganwoodsfarm-kim1060 Had any luck? I've tried a few times but never got seeds from any flowers that did remain.
My gran is copying the way your doing it 😮😂😂
How deep do you plant the “bulbettes”/bulbils? Thank you.
where can i purchase elephant cloves to raise in south louisiana
Try Hoss tools
Hi there...does the garlic produce seeds the first year in its flowers?thx
I want to grow the garlic until it flowers. Will I need to remove bulbils to allow flower to bloom. Also if I let them in the ground will I be able to harvest the garlic bulb also?
You will want to leave the scape attached to the plant to get them to bloom. You can harvest the garlic bulb afterwards. It will be smaller then had you cut the scape off shortly after developing. By leaving the scape attached to the plant, you will lose up to 30% garlic bulb size. Not sure if he mentioned but hardneck garlic produce the scapes. Scapes are excellent in soups, salads, egg salad, potato salad, scape pesto, hot dish. You name it. Pick them once they have curled. They become woody as they age on the plant. When picked early you can eat the entire scape.
So is this the same for seeds from leek scapes. Musselburgh forinstance?
So awesome!
by the way did u mean umbels or umbrels in description? i think correct word is umbel but im new to this so i dont know just checked lots of garlic stuff past 24hours
Did you ever make your own strain?
Can garlic cross-pollination with a different cultivar of garlic?
Been 9 years any luck with true garlic seeds
Guess not
How did this turn out?
The bloom is eatable
Can you hand pollinate? If so explain slowly and informative
With using these, they are not pollinated but are true clones of the mother plant.
Did adding to the jar of water work?
Interesting!
If I cut those scapes off before they get too large will the garlic heads continue or does that kill the plant
Robert, cutting off the scapes will make the garlic head grow bigger actually. It's not a huge change, but if the plant doesn't have to put energy into the scape it can put more energy into producing bigger bulbs. Also, young, tender garlic scapes are delicious!
How many true seeds from one garlic plant
If you get seeds you will get 100-200 seeds you can grow. It will take a at least 2 years for a seed to grow into a head of garlic.
How deep do you plant the tiny seed?
1/4 inch, Carol.
How did your next generation go?
Can you eat the pupils
Yes, but they are so small it isn't worth it. I suppose you could put a bunch in a garlic press.
Wow. So. If we all stopped cultivating garlic would the species actually survive?
It will look like an onion seed.
So when is the best time to start planting the seed?
I plant mine in the spring after the last frost. I leave them in the ground for 2 years before harvesting
Not true I plant this every hear and they grow perfect
Byooobils! Hilarious.
that hand sign you did means "hang loose" in Hawaii. lol
That is so friggen adorable!! xD
those are bulbil, not true seeds. they wont be genetically different. if you take off the bulbils while young that will let the flowers have enough room to try to make true seeds but it will take a while and you wont get very many. they will look more like onion seeds :)
02:08 which I Have no ideawaht that is XD
What does sex repoduction need to do with a plant 🤔!?
If you don't know that... then you're looking at the wrong videos on youtube
Bad ass!
These aren't seeds. They are vegetative clonal buds. True seeds are pollinated and have a hard seed coat. These are called BULBILS and are not seeds.
Video quality bad
almost as bad as your grammar
Change from rhe video setting 480 p to 720 p, it still is fuzzy on close up, but better video.
Most garlic from store are gmo it wont grow its one time grow product.beauty of gmo for you.thx anyway.
Where are we meant to harvest the garlic seeds? Mine are still quite small?
Usually I harvest bulbils in June or July.