Nano or Swytch version were too complicated for me, so I bought an electric Brompton. I am very happy with my decision because « Brompton’s folding bike » are so wonderful for traveling 😊
👍 Made similar with a Swytch Kit. The down side is it gets expensive once you add a few batteries. However it is more flexible as it doesn’t rely on mounting the front bag 👍
Interesting. I bought my Nano kit just before lockdown. I went for the Oregon 4Ah battery because at the time there was box which fitted into the touring bag rear pocket. This box also would also take the Oregon 6Ah (I bought on Screwfix for a considerable discount). I also bought the click button version for the control which has worked perfectly but is no longer advertised as an option. The customer service I have found to be excellent. They are always ready to help with any questions you may have. Thank you for your video and keep videoing your trips. RayC P.S the Oregon batteries are still behaving like new.
Probably the most informative Nano video yet. One of the forgotten to mention items is the fact that as long as you keep the battery size below 100Whours you can have up to 20 batteries in your carry on luggage on most airlines. I am currently in the process of contacting Nano about supplying me a dual 18v battery system so that I may use two 5Ah (18v) batteries and carry a lot of power on commercial aircraft. I have recently purchased a Brompton electric in the US and could not ship it to my home in Canada as no single freight company would look at it...not UPS not FedEx not USPS....as it is a used system. Funny they make that distinction. I will have to drive it home. (to Canada) Phil
As I know, a Nano system works only for 36 V batteries, not 18 V as you said. Assuming 4 Ah capacity, a battery would amount to total energy equals 36*4=144 Wh. For battery rating below 160 Wh, according to IATA, one is allowed to carry two of them as hand carried luggage on your flight. Rules may even be stricter here in UK.
when 2 X 18 volts is combined in series it produces 36 volts. (I have a diploma in electronics engineering) 36 volt Bosch batteries are rare here in North America so using two 18volt in series is a workaround. I have been in contact with Nano and they do offer the kit in a special configuration to allow for 18 volt batteries (X2) in series for Bosch, Makita, and Dewalt. I think you'll find that most airlines allow 20 batteries as long as they are under 100Watt Hours, and you are right they only allow 2 if they are over 100 but less than 160. They also specify that permission must be obtained for the 160Watt limit. I am planning a trip to Italy shortly and have checked the rules for KLM which is the carrier we'll be flying. I routinely fly with a lot of Lithium tool batteries in my carry on (used in my work) and have extensive experience with security. (they are starting to figure out how to calculate watt hours)
Nano also do a 10ah battery kit based around the 36v batteries you get with other ebikes. I have a 2003 Brompton, converted in 2016 and have 2 x4ah Bosch and 10ah. After such time battery capacity has reduced but can get 8 to14 miles out of bosch and 26 to 30 miles from 10ah. New battery maybe would do 50 miles. Not done touring but have done extended day rides by taking all batteries. I have found you get more torque from 10ah battery. Nano kit is a less polished and less refined kit but does mean can be repaired by user. Have had a couple of copper strip failers early on but easy to fix myself. Also had a motor issue and Nano sorted me out with a repair which did not cost that much and was turned around quickly. Customer service is good.
If the brake switch is active, the symbol will be displayed on the LCD. If you need more handlebar space to mount the LCD, use a Profile Design Universal Computer Mount ~£10
Thanks for this very helpful video. I'll most likely use a Nano system if I ever convert to electric assistance. For the comparison between the VW Up, e-Up and Brompton Nano, I think that the contribution from pedalling might not have been included (unless the cars are also pedal assist or similar, like the cars in the Flintstones). I tried to find a Gelert Dragon backpack for kids, but could not. My search continues. I hadn't realised its importance for a successful installation ☺️.
I asked Nanoelectrics to fit it initially. Installation of the magnetic disk and the pedal sensor mount requires removal of the crankset which needs special tools. In this aspect, Swytch kits are better as they do not require crankset removal for installation. Once these two items are fixed, the rest of the nano kits installation could be handled by any normal person.
Nano or Swytch version were too complicated for me, so I bought an electric Brompton. I am very happy with my decision because « Brompton’s folding bike » are so wonderful for traveling 😊
👍 Made similar with a Swytch Kit. The down side is it gets expensive once you add a few batteries. However it is more flexible as it doesn’t rely on mounting the front bag 👍
This is an excellent and comprehensive review of the Nano kit. Well done!
Interesting. I bought my Nano kit just before lockdown. I went for the Oregon 4Ah battery because at the time there was box which fitted into the touring bag rear pocket. This box also would also take the Oregon 6Ah (I bought on Screwfix for a considerable discount). I also bought the click button version for the control which has worked perfectly but is no longer advertised as an option. The customer service I have found to be excellent. They are always ready to help with any questions you may have. Thank you for your video and keep videoing your trips. RayC P.S the Oregon batteries are still behaving like new.
Probably the most informative Nano video yet. One of the forgotten to mention items is the fact that as long as you keep the battery size below 100Whours you can have up to 20 batteries in your carry on luggage on most airlines. I am currently in the process of contacting Nano about supplying me a dual 18v battery system so that I may use two 5Ah (18v) batteries and carry a lot of power on commercial aircraft. I have recently purchased a Brompton electric in the US and could not ship it to my home in Canada as no single freight company would look at it...not UPS not FedEx not USPS....as it is a used system. Funny they make that distinction. I will have to drive it home. (to Canada) Phil
As I know, a Nano system works only for 36 V batteries, not 18 V as you said. Assuming 4 Ah capacity, a battery would amount to total energy equals 36*4=144 Wh. For battery rating below 160 Wh, according to IATA, one is allowed to carry two of them as hand carried luggage on your flight. Rules may even be stricter here in UK.
when 2 X 18 volts is combined in series it produces 36 volts. (I have a diploma in electronics engineering) 36 volt Bosch batteries are rare here in North America so using two 18volt in series is a workaround. I have been in contact with Nano and they do offer the kit in a special configuration to allow for 18 volt batteries (X2) in series for Bosch, Makita, and Dewalt. I think you'll find that most airlines allow 20 batteries as long as they are under 100Watt Hours, and you are right they only allow 2 if they are over 100 but less than 160. They also specify that permission must be obtained for the 160Watt limit. I am planning a trip to Italy shortly and have checked the rules for KLM which is the carrier we'll be flying. I routinely fly with a lot of Lithium tool batteries in my carry on (used in my work) and have extensive experience with security. (they are starting to figure out how to calculate watt hours)
Nano also do a 10ah battery kit based around the 36v batteries you get with other ebikes. I have a 2003 Brompton, converted in 2016 and have 2 x4ah Bosch and 10ah. After such time battery capacity has reduced but can get 8 to14 miles out of bosch and 26 to 30 miles from 10ah. New battery maybe would do 50 miles. Not done touring but have done extended day rides by taking all batteries. I have found you get more torque from 10ah battery. Nano kit is a less polished and less refined kit but does mean can be repaired by user. Have had a couple of copper strip failers early on but easy to fix myself. Also had a motor issue and Nano sorted me out with a repair which did not cost that much and was turned around quickly. Customer service is good.
Really informative. Nice 👍
If the brake switch is active, the symbol will be displayed on the LCD. If you need more handlebar space to mount the LCD, use a Profile Design Universal Computer Mount ~£10
Thanks for this very helpful video. I'll most likely use a Nano system if I ever convert to electric assistance.
For the comparison between the VW Up, e-Up and Brompton Nano, I think that the contribution from pedalling might not have been included (unless the cars are also pedal assist or similar, like the cars in the Flintstones). I tried to find a Gelert Dragon backpack for kids, but could not. My search continues. I hadn't realised its importance for a successful installation ☺️.
Could you do a comparison with the Grin Tech kit as well? I'm in Canada, so I believe the Swytch is a similar price, if not more, than Grin Tech
Really helpful video, did you try the throttle pedal assist version before you decided? Just considering which version you ordered and why?
I didn't consider the throttle option because I don't like the idea that I have to keep on stressing my hand and fingers when cycling.
Thanks, a very good point, think I’ll order the no throttle version. Keep up the great work 👍
Did you fit yours yourself or did you have a workshop do it for you. Looking for a workshop for repairs
I asked Nanoelectrics to fit it initially. Installation of the magnetic disk and the pedal sensor mount requires removal of the crankset which needs special tools. In this aspect, Swytch kits are better as they do not require crankset removal for installation. Once these two items are fixed, the rest of the nano kits installation could be handled by any normal person.