Jim Cornette on CM Punk's Rumored AEW Contract Buyout
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- From Episode 454 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Imagine making CM Punk so angry that he would consider going back to WWE…
WWE doesn't want him... remember fox literally offered to pay his salary and wwe still said no
@@bls8959 because he said he didn’t want to wrestle which is his core value.
Now he does and now he has a fire under his ass.
@@bls8959 that was when VKM was in charge though
@@ImAdaptking not true...he said he was ready to come back years ago
@@bls8959 he never said he was ready to wrestle again.
He said he was open to a conversation about anything. That doesn’t mean I’m ready to hop back in it depends on the money offered.
"AEW Contract Buyout" sounds like a PPV that they would do
definitely a gimmick/angle they would do for a match.
🤣
Buyout on a pole match!
AEW Buyout. Roh vs aew ppv
Winner gets out of their AEW contract. Would probably be the biggest shoot fighting in wrestling since the Brawl for All.
I had a feeling TK would choose the Elite over Punk. Years from now, when they analyze the Fall of AEW this chapter will be amazing to hear
He didn't have much choice. They're the guys running the company with tony from day one. He'd have to get rid of them all plus lose all the people they're friends with with QT and nakazawa who have major backstage roles. Would have been borderline impossible to do
@@MattKeller they ain't running shit what are you smoking?
Punk is on the shelf for another two years due to injuries. Why would he want Punk back when he's a toxic injury prone has-been at this point?
Punk was never going to be here for that long anyway. He's old, has a bad attitude and keeps getting hurt. If he were younger and around more he'd be worth keeping over those guys. Choosing the younger wrestlers that have multiple years ahead of them is the right move whether people want to admit it or not.
@@Jukeboxster there is certainly truth to that though Omega and the Bucks will carry nothing going onwards either way. Never did.
When they started what carried AEW was Cody and Jericho. And it is very clear that the hype Omega and the Bucks got in NJPW was based more on their opponents, the structures (eg the stable) and booking there, than on their own abilities.
“We don’t need punk we have me and moxley” -Jericho probably
Cut out the "and Moxley" part and you probably have a direct statement from Jericho.
@@jthom0027 LMFAOOOOO
Apparently Jericho, Moxley and Bryan have come together as a leadership team and morale is better without Punk, Twinkletoes and the Balding Children
@@Assenayo imagine that, get brian involved, the most selfless superstar ever, and get rid of 4 of the most toxic babies in wrestling, and morale goes up.
Don't forget WHEELER and Danny Garcia
Brian clearly has a good or multiple good sources about the on goings of AEW because he's been right several times. For those blaming Punk for all of this, it's gonna be wild when the rest of the info about the Elite come up.
Brian has his own news site and inside sources. He’s one of the only few who talked about the Cody and Tony NDAs
Cody's and Punk's future shoots will reveal the true nature of The Elite
@@jonathaanv_ Take in account information that Brian and Cornette don't talk about too
@@luisramirez-or5vg I knowww i wish I knew what they both know. They also talk to FTR a lot so I wonder that stuff they can’t speak on
I’d believe Brian Last before anything from Wrestling Observer. They are like the “state paper” for AEW. Anything negative would create ulcers for Alvarez and his daddy, Meltzer.
Here’s some stuff from the legends themselves, Wrestlenomics:
- His appearances often increased quarter-hours.
- 5 PPVs he was on are AEW's 5 highest-selling
- Main evented two $1M gates, arguably drew a 3rd he wasn't on.
- 4 of 10 top selling items for the year on ShopAEW & PWTees are his.
The top TH-cam videos on AEW’s channel are as follows:
- Punk’s heartbreaking announcement.
- Okada’s Dynamite appearance.
- Return of Sting on Rampage: Road Rager
- Blood and Guts 2022 featuring JAS and BCC.
- Tanahashi and Mox come face to face. Road Rager.
- Tanahashi appears and challenges the champ Punk for Forbidden Door.
- Punk kicks off the Summer of Punk.
- Will Ospreay and United Empire get buried by an unprofessional Omega which was aired AFTER the show ended so technically not part of the show but did good numbers on TH-cam because smarks love a good burial, right?
So if Punk “wasn’t a draw” according to the Elite fans then the Elite couldn’t even grip their crayons to sustain the promotion. 😂
Everyone know punk was the draw and elite can't draw a dime
He was a draw, but nowhere near the draw he thought he would be.
Thank you for this data
Tanahasi vs Punk is not a draw. Punk being better than the elite at drawing doesn’t mean Punk was worth even half his contract
@Jaber Fans claim that Omega and Ospreay are working towards a match at Wrestle Kingdom despite there being no evidence for the same. Ospreay basically buried Omega on Twitter (soft boy, cunt, I'll end you blah blah) and when Omega returned from his injury, he had this segment with Ospreay and Aussie Open where he laid out his vitriolic thoughts over the mic onto Ospreay.
The segment was after the show... moments after the six-man tag featuring United Empire was done. But AEW recorded it and uploaded it on TH-cam. It felt like a punishment for Ospreay but that's wrestling for you. That segment was quintessential Omega at his narcissistic best. It was bad but it did good numbers and there were pops because you know, shoots are fun! :)
The fact that CM Punk, who you can clearly tell WANTS to be there for the right reasons, is the one who is rumored to get bought out. Meanwhile, the EVPs are there to FEEL like they are worth anything and run their own little "ring of friends". If Tony would just put his foot down like Brian said and lean on Punk this company could turn around. Such a shame. Thankfully we got CM Punk vs MJF before all this went down....smh.
pro wrestling and disappointment go hand in hand for the last 10 years
I completely agree with this.
@@jhonviel7381
Nah
They've gone together since the last 40 years.
Punk was rumored to be a piece of shit and we got reminded that he realy is.
You need to get rid of such a cancer asap, so Tony did the right thing.
AEW is going to get years of CM Punk chants just like WWE did. I hope every time Omega and the Bucks are on tv that’s all they hear.
Ace Bit Me chants at Omega!
Nah...
@PatrickBateman215 Lol.. Uh no
They won't. Those fans are a bunch of marks. They'll move on.
@@Nazhussain07 you said it like it's a bad thing that they'll move on from punk. Isn't that the nature thing to do? Not put so much energy out over something none of us can control?
I can’t remember if it was Jim or Brian who said it, “Tony Kahn isn’t in the wrestling business to make money. He already has money. He’s in it to make friends.” You’re 100% correct. You don’t fire the one talent who gave you your first million dollar gate and consistently pops ratings. You do everything you can to keep that talent happy because he’s the one who brings eyeballs to the product. Sure the others do too, but Punk brings the buzz. Punk brings back the lapsed fans. But no, Tony wants to keep his buddies happy, so he fires Punk. Plain and simple.
It doesn’t matter the 700k people who enjoy this shitshow will continue to enjoy it regardless of if actual talent comes in before Punks scrum I was always wondering how he’s around all this non serious shit then the scrum happened and after seeing how fans or kids I call them kids have tried to murder punks reputation the writing has always been on the wall
It was a fellow viewer who emailed them that was his theory and Jim and Brian said it makes sense look up the video where tk looks like a prostitute 🤣
All this happened because of Colt fucking Cabanna
The boos the elite and bucks are going to get..already people were tired of their same bad shit you add the punk situation on top and they'll be gone soon too.
@@TimeBomb014X No, it happened because TK has no balls. AEW is a way for him to buy friends and boost his own ego, not to become a real promotion and/or make money.
Don't forget that in an interview to Barstool Sports in 2021, Triple H said that he talked to CM Punk "a year and a half... a year and three quarters ago".
Maybe there's no beef between them anymore, and Triple H would put the problems aside for the business side for sure.
Cm punk is not good for business...nobody cares except his delusional fans
Honestly I would love to see them team up. Imagine the heat
@@pavma7 That would never happen.
@Billy Was Here Just like Cody would never come back right?
@@billywashere6965 Like how Bret would never come back to WWE? Like how him and Shawn would never make up?
I can’t believe how badly tony has handled this, he chooses to get rid of his most valuable asset. Crazy.
Good now cl punk can return to wwe for 1 final run and retire
Tony Kahn thinks this is gonna be easy
@@pleaseshutup7053 Not if there is a non complete in the buy-out
@@brandonlanders3277 when the non-compete is over in a few months. If there is a non-compete that clearly means wwe is interested in them if they weren’t what is the purpose of doing a non-compete clause.
Rumor is WWE doesn't want him either. Sounds like a punk problem.
If Triple H can get CM Punk it will be the biggest coup in the wrestling industry. Tony not being able to handle Punk will be in the history books as one of the greatest mistakes in the biz.
Literally nobody cares about cm punk except for his few delusional fans
@@bls8959 that's true but if he went back to wwe it would shit all over this aew run. Just look at cody
And why would WWE want him? He's washed up and a massive pain in the ass.
Punk is injury prone, atrocious childish attitude that triple H hates and it will only work out IF punk gets his own way. Punk dishes it out but can’t handle insults
@@joshdamage because CM Punk vs Roman Reigns would make a lot of money. Especially if you add The Rock to the match
CM Punk is the only reason why I even thought turning on AEW shows. He had good promo wars with people. He had good matches there. He was a star and carried himself like a star.
There is maybe the MJF but rest of them are just not interesting.
The rest are jobbers.
Just sucks for the fans that we won't get the final installment of the MJF and Punk feud
Until 2024 😉
You can not keep punk piss off entire locker room for 1 guy
@@MarmiteMangoMachine punk wasn't even in real good shape I don't want to see him in two years the time has passed and he botches and gets hurt..there's no point in him wrestling
@@christopherspires8686 I really wish people would stop saying that Punk pisses off the entire lockeroom. He does not. He has some detractors like the "elite" idiots, Kingston (who seems to hate everyone other than Moxley), and possibly Jericho. Guys like FTR, Darby, Moxley, Danielson, Claudio, Starks, Hobbs, and probably MJF as well respect Punk. Punk has an issue with the more "trampoline cowboy" idiots in the lockeroom, not the actual good talent.
@@jthom0027 Not according to Konnan. According to Konnan -- who actually works with AEW and talks with the boys backstage -- Punk has "nuclear heat" with most of the locker room.
If The Elite return, I’m finished with AEW. Especially as FTR are basically invisible and Wardlow’s been totally botched. Samoa Joe is a non-entity. Claudio’s been cooled off. Miro is not used. Danielson is Jericho’s personal jobber. AEW sucks. Tony is too passive.
Same
This
The DX Era in wwe is better
Exactly. All the good people sans MJF don't get TV time
Considering how this has all gone, I'd be willing to bet that CM Punk tried to talk to Tony Khan about his issues backstage, and was either ignored or told to stfu by the Elite. The press conference was probably the last chance for Punk to tell someone what was going on.
I think this whole fiasco proves that TK can't run a wrestling company; I agree that it sounds like the Elite is running off any talent that might upstage them. How much do you want to bet FTR goes next?
I think that this really proves that CM Punk is a bitch-ass toxic crybaby and he should gtfo of the wrestling business all together. Whoever says that punk can still go Is tripping, every single match he had he botched and was totally carried on
Exactly, probably wanted to get it out before any NDA was signed.
I'd be real surprised if The Revival signs with this shit show again. Only thing keeping them from popping off is their NJPW bookings, I imagine.
I would agree with you, if it wasn't about his going off on Colt Cabana. Cabana, who literally said nothing during this whole period, and nothing after.
This kind of shows that most reports about him being at least as responsible as the rest is true.
The only thing keeping FTR there is the flexible schedule to allow them more time with their families.
Plain and simple. If Punk is really gone, then, so am I.
Tony has earned that response from me and only time will tell.
As soon as you leave AEW will fall apart
Punk is gone because of punk. Punk screwed punk.
@3cn3ps They wont... AEW fans are all convinced that Punk is the new Hulk Hogan. They think everything AEW has done over the past 3 years is perfect and awesome... They think changing anything would just be "turning AEW into WWE" ... so they go out of their way to bury shit they were begging for a few years ago.
same
My thoughts are, is that IF Punk is gone, which at the moment we don't know, it's all rumors and speculation at this point, then people like Megha, Jericho, Bucks and Omega have won. They will gloat and turn around and say "Ha ha, we got CM Punk fired and possibly blacklisted from wrestling for good!", but when ratings come in and show that WWE overtakes them EVERY. SINGLE. WEEK, then they know it's gonna bite them on the ass.
Tony needs to hire somebody with balls that can handle the talent so he doesn't have to.
Yeah but also punk isnt a 20 year old who doesn’t know better. Its his fault hes gone. Hes toxic. Could have been handled a million better ways
Joe ! Joe ! Joe !
@@tampabayscorer He's not available
@@Kalbuir66 the cowboy promo was not even bad lol punk went into business for himself over a promo that was so light its ridiculous. Punk has always been a bitch and if you can't see that you are clueless
Thing is...he wants to handle the talent
Once again Jim and Brian been spot on about this since the beginning
True and most of these "fans" done already forgotten about what Jim and Brian predicted.
As soon as that's confirmed they'll bring back twinkle toes and the hardly boyz lol
My thoughts Also
Yup
The plus will be hearing about the ratings from Jim, if they're still dropping 200k when they appear
Well ever since CM Punk the Young bucks and Kenny Omega having appear a ew has been doing great in the ratings and the shows has been getting so much better I get that Tony wants to lay low on the media scrum right now his main focus is getting a e w back on track and he's been doing a good job at it
And viewership will continue to go down like brown.. the shows start good and by the end are down couple hundred thousand viewers
The Darby Allin , Eddie Kingston and MJF matches were fucking incredible I loved all three of those matches so much and the story they told and I'm glad Punk also got a good moment with his first world championship win but man this is a sad sad way to end the run
Yeah sucks his body failed him and poor management
Well it's only just a rumor nothing hasn't been confirmed we haven't heard nothing from Tony or aew or CM Punk himself don't believe what the dirt sheets are saying let's wait and see what happens
They were not incredible
Punk is too injury prone. Won the title twice and got injured straight away.
@@paulwoodford1984 to be fair. He’s up there in age. He competed every week. With young up and coming talent. There’s no telling when he got hurt. He came back after the first injury way too soon. There’s many variables that contributed to his injuries. I mean AEW style of wrestling is pretty careless. Plus we don’t know EXACTLY how that brAwl backstage went down.
Sidenote: Unca Dave has seemed very grumpy without Twinkletoes and the Hardly Boyz feeding him info.....
Pretty sure they got banned from doing it
yeah, all of a sudden he's been shit talking Tony for not being "transparent" ... while still pretending like his hands are completely clean in all of this.
Yeah he was called out yesterday for something like that.
@@mrreddington777 really? Where ? Can you send the link ?
@@mrreddington777 Also Dirty Dutch did a video about it too, how he cant fill in the blanks anymore
One word describes Punk's run: legendary. He had a great year, then went the fuck off while calmly eating a muffin, then topped it all off by knocking out a Hardly. If this is it, I can't think of a better way to go out, lol.
It's cool how both times Punk won the title at a ppv he almost immediately took a hiatus (therefore nobody ever really 'beat' him for it except much later on after Punk's title win). Mox had the Interim Title run and then officially beat Punk for Punk's title (only to lose it right back to Punk like the next night in horrible booking example #523 in AEW)
Meanwhile MJF who's never had the AEW World Title (but he has a nice ring) holds the only other win over Punk in AEW (he remained undefeated in AEW except those TWO TIMES against those TWO MEN one loss each). And now MJF is the #1 Contender for Moxley's AEW Title.
Hmm. How are they gonna outbook anything else after that match?? I don't even think Danielson and Omega for the title would be bigger than Moxley/MJF considering the Punk rub Mox and Max have gotten, and it would obviously have a better angle going into the match than Kenny/Bryan's predictable 'fighter vs wrestler' feud like they were back in ROH and 15 years younger lol.
And the funniest part is that now that Punk's contract is being bought out-- nobody else will get to beat him and get Punk's heat. So Moxley v MJF is it. After that feud blows off, the past 2 years of AEW tv storyline built by Punk and all the multiple shows in Chicago that broke sales records-- all burns away.
LOL other stars FKA "someone else in another promotion" will continue to be bought by Tony Khan and used to pop ratings and/or hotshot all of AEW/ROH/AAA/NJPW/etc.'s title belts. At the expense of AEW originals who get paid to eat catering for months (I guess that's not too bad!?)
This ^^ lol
CM Punk had a “perfect year?” You guys don’t even attempt to hide your bias. He feuded with nobodies, had boring matches, meaningless feuds & got injured both times they put the title on him.
B-b-but media scrum! Mindy's muffins! Cm punk cm punk cm punk!
Broke his foot diving into the crowd. Tore his tricep working a match. Had the appearance of an emaciated Jiffy Lube employee. Perfect year indeed.
Remember when Tony Khan said if Ted Turner knew half of what he does about Pro Wrestling that WCW would still be in business? Well Tony all this could of been avoided and how crazy your locker room been the pass 2 months and the lost of Cody u clearly don’t know WTF you’re doing neither
That was such an asinine remark to make. Turner was running a huge media empire and in the middle of a major merger with AOL, that turned out to be a poor decision. He wasn't "running" WCW but delegating it to other people. Besides his media empire, he was owner of the Braves, the Hawks, one of the biggest landowners in the US for conservation, and headed a few non-profit organisations). Khan really made an ass of himself.
And if Tony Khan knew a pinch of what Ted Turner knew about business. This situation wouldn’t have arisen.
AEW’s new tagline is “Snatching Defeat From The Jaws Of Victory!”
Some much bias towards CM Punk on this video
Punk the victim in this situation
Punk doesn't want to go to WWE, and WWE don't want him.
Exactly...why does both of them think this is even a remote possibility
If this is true.... I predict that AEW will not last another 2-3 years
It will it won't be as big
Cm punk did nothing for aew
@@bls8959 except all their highest rated segments and biggest drawing events. yeah nothing at all
@@justinmelendez3760 that's doesn't mean the numbers are any good lol
@@justinmelendez3760 not true u need to educate yourself
Well aew is finished the treatment of cm punk was a damn shame
Punk is a cancer period
You know cm punk as much as I like him is not some virginal saint....the guy has had a problem with literally every single company he has ever worked for....it can't always be everyone else.....love him....but the guy is a miserable prick
Literally nobody cared cm punk was in aew
@@bls8959 all the wrestling podcasts that made punk their #1 topic says otherwise
It was fun while it lasted, here's to AEW killing off any of MJF's heat next.
Cm punk was the only man to take mjf to the next level it’s over
Um that happened months ago...cm punk's run sucked anyway...let's stop acting otherwise
if punk does end up back in wwe, they should start a faction with him & cody & future former aew people & call them the evp's & run it like they did with evolution.. now that would be funny.. especially if mjf ends up in wwe
WWE mostly doesn’t like to even acknowledge them for the most part
@@riffhousestudios96 Idk about that. That was a Vince rule not to acknowledge other company's history.
And you'd all be cool with that, simultaneously throwing a temper tantrum any time AEW dares to mention WWE on air.
You know its almost over when an episode of Dark Side of the Ring this season is called the rise and fall of AEW
I think a Owen hart moment coming soon to AEW
@@lebenshilfemavericke.v.106 Hope it happens to Harpo, the Hardly Boyz or the return of Jelly Janela.
I think The Self-Destruction of AEW sounds more appropriate.
You do know that was fake? A fan made that.
@Jaber no it's all made up by this comment. There is absolutely no evidence that they are doing an AEW episode
Eric Bischoff is laughing somewhere.. goddamn was he accurate 🎯
What did old Eric b say?
I wouldn't say he was right at all, if I remember correctly he said Punk wouldn't draw, and guess what? He pulled those ratings.
@@Troglodytic_Wallflower punk was a disaster. He did not bring in ANY new viewers
@@joshdamage That’s right. He made no big change at all
@@joshdamage hard to bring in viewers when the rest of the show sucks
RIP AEW 2019 -2022
Aew was dead long b4 cm skunk came back
2024, a perfect year to submit your Tax Break as you would submit your 5-Year Plan.
People gave aew 12 months.... Still going fine. Plenty of million plus viewer shows without punk or any of the elite on it.
@@bb-ballistics1706 AEW also got their connect at Turner fired when they got their initial deal and extension.
@@TriplomatX I will wait for you to provide proof of that claim... I won't hold my breath.
MJF: promos of meeting punk, Cody Rhodes his best friend, Finn Balor art with extra work, Regals emails......he's literally applying his resume to WWE on AEW shows 👏🏿 👏🏿 👏🏿 GENIUS
Ain't happening.
@@killerseddie8295 yeah cuz Cody, Punk, and Regal are not telling HHH to get him to NXT. He's literally the perfect heel for Bron Breakker/Austin Theory after what he did with Wardlow!
Oh it'll happen. MJF is going to be in Jericho's cross hairs before long, and he's gonna get pushed out.
The way Punk left WWE made his arrival in AEW way more exciting! Looks like that could go both ways.
Punk is so overrated always has been
@@edmonstonklient7707 Agreed. Tony wanted him to be a Day one guy, but Punk declined. He waited until he could be paid 3 million per year, took the money, was in bad physical shape and became injury prone.
I dnt want him back in wwe. He should take his aew buyout money and start his own company to rival aew
@@segagenesis7708 Yup. Guy should have bene working his butt off all during that time, building up his endurance and conditioning. Instead he sat around and got flabby.
@@billywashere6965 It’s even more sad when you realize Punk did MMA training and still wasn’t in shape🎃
Because favoritism of friends over other employees has always worked business wise 🤦🏻♂️ good job booker of the year
As soon as I saw this news, I knew that "Booker of the Year" was choosing The Old Bucks and Kenny Olivier. You choose the cosplayers over one of the 3 legitimate stars in your company that can wrestle and draw ratings (Punk, MJF and BD (who they have wasted))
The 30 for 30 on this will be great
Dark side of the ring
30 for 30? This could be a full film, lol.
Do you realize Punk got injured massive injuries 2 times in a row now??? How are you going to get a return on the invesntment with an old has been with a fragile body and fragile ego
If one side said choose, then that side should be fired business sense 101 ...but again, we don't know if this is Punk saying No or TK. Again, these are guesses, just like "oh the bite mark MUST mean Olivier had him choked from behind" ...sure ok maybe lol
@@omarhosam8880 Turn him manager, he is a heat magnet.
Tony will never make it….especially since he refuses to have The Briscoes on AEW
The more I think about it the more it makes sense, CM Punk literally took care of business backstage because no one else did. He has an old school approach to dealing with a-holes which is good. The problem is TK, Twinkle Toes & the Shit Bucks
Well on JCE #361 Brian asked Jim what he'd tell Punk if he came to AEW and Jim said “I would give him a baseball bat and ask him to clean out the locker room.” LOL
For all this Punk haters, Standing up for yourself is the equivalent to being hard to work with and toxic.
@@chembiz 1) because cornette would suck the dingleberries out of punks dooper
2) punk with a baseball still had a 75% to get his ass kicked by anyone in any locker room, WNBA included
@@TheMrAlgoh No what Punk did wasn’t standing up for himself he embarrassed his boss and made him look incompetent buried the roster made the company look bad and made baseless accusations that he didn’t know where true or not and I actually agree with a lot of with what Punk said it was true but that was something that should of been handled privately putting that all out there In the open to the media wasn’t the right thing to do he was so pissed about Page going to business for himself that he goes and does the same thing
Would WWE want the ego and headache that Punk brings to a company?
WWE knows how to deal with egos. AEW not so much.
And to think all this started over *Colt frikkin' Cabana.*
evps are friends with Colt so it's painfully obvious that he was the catalyst for their fall out
Yep
What Jim doesn't understand is that nobody wants Punk there, 90% of the Roster hates him.
Uh, he does? He's literally been saying that since Punk was suspended.
The fact that Tony Khan is still afraid of folks, particularly Punk, going to WWE is funny and making folks sign non-compete clauses, the same thing WWE was doing (even tho they were only 30 to 90 days), is just hilarious. BUT Punk is that type of person just to do it to spite anyone and everybody.
Just never got the appeal of Punk. Wherever he's been. Did he really do that much for AEW after the honeymoon wore off? Ratings came back down to where they were after a while.
I never watched AEW with Punk or before Punk, because he himself was not enough for me to watch the entire nonsense of the rest of the show. But if he goes it does show, at least to everyone capable of thinking, there really is no hope for this company, ever.
Exactly my thoughts. I've only heard about AEW from Corny, and others around me. Before Punk, the whole organization seemed like a mess, with one coherent identity, a clown show. When Punk came, I thought about "popping" in to see how it would play out. But even with the good reviews from people I trust in the business when it was Punk and MJF, the rest of the show still had the clown show aura. I never could bring myself to watch any of it.
Now that this whole fiasco sounds as though its coming to an end, with Punk out. I dont believe anything could entice me to view one episode now. TK is a rich moron that will never step aside. It sounds as though he has loyalty to the three stooges, for whatever reason. However, its that loyalty, to three goofs, that will destroy his company.
Say what you will about mega rich owners, but the successful ones seem to have the ability to keep feelings and loyalty out of their decision making.
Personally, I dont believe for a moment the three stooges have 500k faithful fans tuning in each night. Most of the dire hards that have stayed around this long are only there because they invested so much into the idea that AEW was going to be different than WWE. While it was and has been, to a degree, I wouldnt say that difference has been positive, or any good though.
I only watched one AEW show because I was watching the TBS channel and that's what was currently on. It was while I was in the ER back in April on suicide watch. I'm doing a lot better since then so no worries. Anyway I had heard things from Cornette and was able to see for myself. I barely remember anything from the show. Why was the ramp connected to the ring? Why does everyone have to jump and flip around constantly? To me that's boring in wrestling. My favorite Luchador is Rey Mysterio but he doesn't fly around constantly like they do in AEW or NXT. If I wanted to see that I'd watch Parkour videos. I like high spots but when that's all you're doing it makes them look weak. Even ECW knew what they were doing. Maybe I'm just old school and prefer my wrestlers to stay grounded more and not do moves that can easily injure you so often. Save it for the PPVs.
Still the best wrestling program out there.
Punk isnt realy needed, too many botches and injuries let alone being a compelte cancer for the lockerroom.
I've seen too many people take a swing at punk while defending the actions of the EVPs, despite the fact that as representatives of the company, they were far more liable in what happened. Even if they come back which it looks like they will, there's no way they should be able to keep their executive titles, which it looks like they will. That company is a disaster.
I feel like the Elite or AEW has bot/employee accounts bashing punk because they know he’s on his way out. That or its WWEs bot accounts. Hard to tell.
Exactly. As a Punk supporter, I definitely think he could have handled things better, even if I was entertained by it. The Elite supermarks can't even admit that Hangman shouldn't have gone into business for himself, let alone anything else.
They're literally cheering on the bullies, and getting mad at the person being bullied for not taking it anymore
@@alysone685 fair do's, but nonetheless he threw a punch at a co worker, can you throw a punch at a co worker on the grounds of your workplace and expect to keep you're job? (rhetoric question), end of the day it's a work place and you dont resort to violent conduct, very simple logic
@@richardpreston7333 Punk was the bully who called everyone out at the media scrum he literally said if anyone had a problem with what he said to come see him and that’s exactly what The Elite did
Corporate gal speaking here. Regardless of how much money he produces, you cannot have someone on your roster who does not know how to maintain their composure. Regardless of who is in the right or wrong.
Some people forget that this is a BUSINESS first and foremost.
Agreed. Punk's meltdown was inevitable. Its in his DNA to be a malcontent. No matter how good a thing is, its never good enough.
This is wrestling though. Not Walmart 😂
Didn't we all speculate about how having your top stars in dual roles, being talent and authority, could create some problems for Tony down the road? I could have sworn we all talked about how having talent act as authority could be troublesome. I listen pretty regularly and I'm pretty sure we talked about how having ACTIVE WRESTLERS AS OTHER WRESTLERS BOSSES WAS A BAD IDEA, especially when the other wrestlers are bigger stars.
It can work if the said authority has control of the whole promotion and is a star the caliber of Dusty, Flair or Lawler, who also has knowledge of how to run a successful promotion. Twinkletoes, The Hardlys and Jerichozuna do not fall into that category.
YES we sure did talk about this and look what happened
Hulk Hogan Syndrome, no cure, shits fatal
It's also funny everyone Punk mentioned wanting to work with gets little to no TV time. FTR, Hobbs, Starks, Kingston. Can't wait til the dust settles because I'm sure people got some shit to say about that backstage environment.
Hope they talk about dynamite losing half its audience this past Tuesday
Your math and context skills are on display.
@@johnnymittle Hes right lol
And yet still beat nxt 🤣
@@bb-ballistics1706 Okay but facts are that NXT didn’t drive their audience away by the end of the show unlike Dynamite which drove them away within the first 30 minutes.
@@bb-ballistics1706 nxt is development...it's like d league..idk if I'd go around bragging about beating them lol
Punk walked in with a messiah like praise, told people some uncomfortable truths, created miracles in the ring, and then was betrayed and cast out by the very people he tried to save..... holy crap Punk really is wrestling Jesus lol
Lmao we need him back in wwe for 1 more run
LOL
I thought Seth Rollins was wrestling Jesus but then again he's an atheist
@@pleaseshutup7053 the resurrection?
Let's not go that far. His run was mid bro. He was to injury prone and didnt even defend the title because of it. If we got that summer of punk run maybe
I don't think CM Punk's going to go back to WWE... I think he's probably done with wrestling for good...I don't see Punk being able to work with Triple H...
HHH is a different person too though.
After his health issues and the departure of Vince I can very well imagine that he's willing to put business before feelings.
No wrestler is ever done with wrestling as long as they are willing and able
Looking back at it. Cody Rhodes looks like a genius for stepping away when he did
The resolution to this could’ve been easy. Fire Steel to send a message about violence in the locker room. Suspend Punk for the duration of his recovery. Strip the EVPs of their titles and release them if they’re unhappy since they aren’t draws.
Cm punk people should not be fired I’m sure when Steele was fired punk was done
The draw at Revolution 2021 wasn’t Mox vs Omega, it was the stipulation
Triple H doesn't have to apologize for anything. Punk walked out of the company. You do that at any job. Guess what. You get fired .
Maybe buying out Punk's contract is a condition for him not suing the hell out of Tony Khan and AEW.
That’s a good point bro. Because if you look at it from kahn perspective why would he get rid of punk
@@pleaseshutup7053 Becasue he's an absolute headcase, that holds onto to any grudge based on slights, real or just perceived. He's toxic. Also what grounds does he have to sue? He attacked first.
@@johnnymittle Maybe because the EVPs of the company went into his locker looking for trouble
@@pleaseshutup7053because he's a crybaby and injury prone and also thinks he is alot better than he really is. No hate though, I like punk and hate to see him go
@@johnnymittle so you believe the young bucks camp he attacked first?
"We know he (Jericho) loves coups and insurrections"
-Jim Cornette
I'm don't like Jericho in AEW, but JC being triggered about J6 is hilarious.
Lol Jim falls for the government narrative Everytime
Jim can't live with the fact Vince Russo could kick his ass.
@@imusingsocialistmedia3014 well his wife was there when it happened
@@bls8959 well treason is treason
If he returns he will be the biggest heel in the eyes of the AEW diehards
Would be great to see the promos against the elite and Tony. Team him with ftr against the elite
Fragile mind. Fragile body. Fragile ego.
As a wrestling fan that use to love this business when it was serious, this whole situation sucks balls to me. I hate that it came to this. Was looking forward to seeing Punk's arc in AEW. So much left on the table. But I realize that I am not in the demographic of fan that Tony Khan cares about. Tony doesn't give a shit about the fans that loved this business in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s, that abandoned it because it became goofy. He says he does. But honestly he doesn't care. He's not even in charge of his own company. Boss on paper only. Smh .....How do you blow it with CM Punk???
You're a wrestling fan? Ok
Easilly
I think the bigger issue is this is more confirmation.... Nobody wants to be bothered with punk and his asshole ways so much to the point they will pay him to leave.
If Jericho wants him gone you know TK will listen.
Thing is, with every company nowadays it's always "if you don't like it here, then leave". The directors never see a problem with themselves. They had a guy who could have taught them a thing or two and instead they throw him out. AEW is pretty much done. I'm very certain that MJF's dream is also to be in the WWE sooner or later. Triple H should try and talk to Punk, since the two of them never had a significant conflict with each other.
What are you talking about? CM Punk's bigggest contention in WWE was Triple H, and NEITHER of them liked each other.
@@billywashere6965 Emm, pretty sure that was Vince man.
Jim needs to get punk on his show
HELL YEAH
Are you implying that Punk NEEDS to work with Cornette?
@@OmegaRedFan I'm saying that if Punk doesn't sign an NDA then Cornette needs to interview him about everything.
@@OmegaRedFan but it would be pretty awesome to see those two together in the wrestling business. Cornette Punk and FTR faction
It's not going to happen, but if Triple H and Punk let bygones be bygones and they come to terms on a contract, this may legitimately be the thing that threatens AEW going out of business. I would venture to guess that the majority of fans in AEW were the ones chanting CM Punk in every segment for years because they felt mistreated. The second he would return to WWE, there goes all of those fans which is at least 50%
I can't be the only one who's watching the slow death of AEW with a smile and a big bowl of popcorn.
I'm with you , my BIG bowl is filled with other stuff than popcorn tho
I'm just listening to it vicariously through this Podcast. I haven't watched wrestling for 20+ years and you couldn't pay me to watch AEW, lol
I'm not happy about the fall of AEW, but I wish I could show things like this to the diehard AEW fans who were singing their praise before they ever even had a match. So many fans jumped on the bandwagon and were ready for Daddy Tony to give them the best wrestling. They never considered AEW would face challenges.
I feel like I disagree with Corny on this one. If you look at it from a full outside view, when has any roster not managed to piss of CM Punk eventually? He just seems to bring up drama.
Do you think Punk shouldn't be mad at what happened in AEW? Should he let the Adam Page promo slide? Should he let the Bucks and Omega continue to leak to Meltzer without saying anything? What if he did say something to Tony and Tony refused to do anything about it? What would be his next step, especially when he is staring down another 6 months of injury recovery.
To call all of this simply "drama" is very disengenuous. And why would you attach the drama to Punk specifically when this "drama" should be attached to Adam Page (who went into business for himself on national tv) and the Bucks and Omega for leaking to Meltzer?
look at his entire career. he couldn’t even take light tube spots in czw because he wanted his “character to be taken seriously”. phil brooks is a joke but a rich one, tk just needs to sell him and clean up his house.
From a legal perspective Punk was wrong in every way
He did nothing wrong
@@pleaseshutup7053 He did defamation of character without proof. He hit an evp in front of the head legal council
it's funny not many people are talking about how Punk was being reported as a model employee until the moment he feuded with the bucks friend and was going to take his title. then all the sudden Punk was difficult couldn't get along with anyone. I wonder what set punk off.
Dude that’s not all of a sudden. If you follow his career you would know this is his reputation everywhere.
@@DoctorProfessorPablo yes but there were no prior incidents at all in aew before he got involved with the elite camp. In other companies yes, but in aew, he only had this single incident. They are using his past against him imo
Jericho- "We're storming the gates".
Hagger- "I love this hat!!"
Omega and the bucks gonna get major heat
Nobody cares that much you delusional cm punk fan...ur just as bad as meltzers n friends
AEW was NEVER going to ~Really~ compete with the WWE. Its basically an indy-promotion masquerading as a Large Wrestling promotion.
Punk went from saying he left professional wrestling in 2005 (ie. WWE isn't pro wrestling) and saying AEW is the place to be with the best young wrestling talent in the world to then putting over Kofi, Miz, Cena, and Shield members Roman and Seth on live television as better than AEW talent. And then finally buried some of the AEW lockerroom as unprofessional children in front of the owner while eating Mindy's Muffins.
Daymn! You hit the hammer on the nail with this one! Precise words...
Billy Gunn is winning this AEW game. 😂
Levels ahead of everyone else there
The acclaimed are one of the few talents worth a damn in that company.
Big Show too, he knew how to suck them dry.
"I'M AN ASS-MAN!..."
*Bwomp-Bwomp*
"YEAH I'M AN ASS-MAN!"
honestly Billy Ass and The Acclaimed have been great recently.
Too bad Tony prefers listening to those around him instead of looking at the bigger picture for his company. Who gives a shit how Jericho or the Elite feel about Punk? They wish they got the crowd reactions he received in this past year.
Punk is a toxic cancer in the locker room that got winy because people didn't want to listen to him the same way he didn't want to listen to vets when he was a young talent.
I would be shocked if MJF signs a 5-year contract with AEW when his current contract comes due. I can see at most maybe a 3-year deal. MAYBE. But I think this whole situation probably made MJF realize that the Bucks and Omega will always throw cold water on him if he gets too hot.
Me and a friend were talking about this. He didn't understand why a no compete would be a hang up in a buyout because no way he goes back to WWE. I said he doesn't have to go back fulltime. He can get a legends conract, or the Brock contract. Limited rare appearances for a big pay. And he'd do it to spite Tony
Punk is that much of an ass.. I could see him going back just out of spite
It’s Jericho’s company now
If Punk is bought out, I hope it leads to MJF leaving so we can get Punk vs MJF where it matters, WRESTLEMANIA
You E marks really are delusional. I look forward to Jim bagging the shit out of E just to see people like you getting all salty & butt-hurt.
“The one good thing they had.”
This is why Jim failed out of every single promotion he was ever a part of. CM Punk is an emotionally and physically fragile ticking time bomb He’s in no way shape or form worth the drama.
@@Kalbuir66 Yeah ok, at least Cornette is getting paid to be a moron saying stupid shit. You're just doing it for free. MJF is better than Punk in every way, shape, and form. Plus he can do a dive without getting a boo-boo, and doesn't go into a months long emotional spiral down the toilet because someone goes off script in a promo.
@@Kalbuir66 A lot of AEW fans would probably argue that Moxley was(and is) more valuable than Punk. For all of his faults, Moxley rarely ever gets injured, he's consistently available, and he completely bought into the AEW culture. Nobody can honestly say that about Punk.
@@decepticonxhunter4850 Jericho and Danielson are both better than Punk as well. Both companies know that now.
At what point do people start holding Punk accountable?
This is the wrong podcast for that.
Mox and Jericho are in management positions now...Just fire the worthless EVPs and im sure Punk would get along with the rest of the AEW locker room just fine
Anyone with a decent rep will be permanently warded off from AEW. Because if you're not in with the Hardlys or Jericho, you''ll get similar treatment to Punk.
Jim needs to get punk on the show
Hmmhmm hmhm
Punk is not the big draw that AEW desperately needs that Cornette makes him out to be
He was their best draw and it is a fact
@@sharonsamuel802The last 2 PPVs he was in the main event did lower than the year before including Full Gear with Omega vs Hangman as main event he was not a game changer at all getting 100k more people to watch your segment is not a game changer it is pathetic fans nowadays think that makes you a massive draw Punk did not bring anywhere near the new viewers and customers some people thought he could
MJF has to go to WWE. He will never get the respect he truly deserves unless he goes there, because that's the major league. No matter how much Tony pays him.
Sure pal
So Tony is gonna get rid of his biggest star, biggest draw, biggest ratings draw, the guy who draws the biggest gate, the guy who people tune in to see, and bring back the goofs that make everyone turn the tv off 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tony brainwashed by the elite if they lose punk they in trouble
Ya he drew his first few weeks but after that literally nobody cared...I hate aew and the evps to but let's be honest about punk instead of acting like Dave meltzer
But what is anyone else doin tho that anybody cares about besides mjf
@@bls8959 wtf are you on about. They just did their biggest gate with cm punk main eventing. Meanwhile the other twerps cause 250000 people to turn the tv off. Meltzer in disguise.
Poor old ftr will be punished again this week for being the best. Its not their fault the crowd chant ftr when poor old matt and nick come out.
Back because I remembered this podcast - Jim literally explaining a future at 8:00 that's happened!
Man, if punk pops out at Royal Rumble, i'll go back watching WWE.
Does everyone forget the actual scrum??
Tony sat NEXT TO PUNK- NODDING AND MAKING FACES that agreed, in body language, with everything that Punk was saying!...wtf.
Jim defends CM Punk the same way Dave defends Kenny Omega
How much money has Kenny made over CM Punk?
Difference being Punk is a legitimate star that is being screwed here. Omega is just an extremely strange person, and not a very good wrestler.
Yup and cm punk's fans act the same way...tbh punk was always overated and his aew run proved it
Its simple. Difference is cornys defence is valid because punk is a legit star.
@@stevemoore6853 If making money was the only parameter then Vince would still be running the WWE.
Can no one sell these guys on an angle? Would make aew bank.
Is it OK to think all sides of this are idiots?
WWE seems to have phased out all of their trouble makers why would they want to bring in Punk? They've been there done that.
Ftr, punk, Danielson, miro all the fan favorites getting short end of the stick in aew. Funny how quickly the “elite” have turned into the kliq.
The Elite have always been the kliq, or at least a wannabe kliq. Punk just helped reveal their true nature to everyone.
If this runs off Punk that means the EVP's will continue to never let anyone get over because if they can do it to Punk, they can do it to anyone.
I have never been a fan of punk, not a fan of the other guys either, but not a fan.