It takes hours if you export a long clip at 4k, changing export format to Pro Res 422 HQ and rendering in advance like in this video really exports in seconds/minutes depending on the duration
I'm just finished editing a 30 minutes short film and tried doing this for sending to a client. And of course it works. It works so beautiful. And it also works for a musicvideo with effects and all that. So thx again buddy!
Andres Olsen Hey, I have a 36 minutes wedding video I’m trying to export and I’m only just doing the first part at 3:12. It started around 30 minutes ago and it’s saving I’ve got 2 hours and 20 minutes left. Is that how long it’s supposed to take?
Ayyy nice. I was pushing this back in the summer, Cineform is great with this :) Also, setting up your project's Scratch folders to a local SSD with help a ton with performance - especially important if you're editing from a NAS and doing this.
Thank you for this tutorial! So useful! I actually render my footage piece by piece when I am satisfied of my work. I would rather wait a few minutes a couple of times than a whole hour :)
I found a way to export even faster. There's an export plugin called Voukoder that lets you dump straight to FFmpeg without a frameserver, and that means you can use AMD AMF or Nvidia NVENC acceleration for H.264 video encoding.
Lauri Inki Are you saying that if I use previews with H.264 and my own quality settings, it would still use the previews I rendered out with 422 Pro Res HQ?
It is a good tip and it works...only issue is that a 9 min video using 264 will render in 10 minutes and output a roughly 700 meg file, while using your method the render is 15G in size. While it will render in 20 seconds after, a considerable savings of 9 minutes and 40 seconds, you will still need to run this through Handbrake to bring the size down and this process will take about 5 minutes. But in all you will have saved 5 minutes... but you still need to render the original with your method and this will take the same amount of time it would have needed originally.
What kind of witchcraft is this???? A 25 seconds test clip went from 23 seconds render time down to less than 5 seconds!!!!! 😳😳😳 Thanks man!! you really saved us a ton of time!!!
But you spend time rendering the timeline? So when you add that to the final export, doesn't that kind of offset time saved? And because you've switched your preview files to 4k quicktime files, doesn't that also slow down rendering your timeline?
You only pay the render tax if you do it at the end of your editing process. Most editors "render as they go." Like at lunch, when you get up for a break, overnight, etc. By the time you are ready to export the rendering is already near completion in most cases. 4K QuickTime ProRes previews have much better performance than H.264 4K files, in my experience. That said, you should have a fast set of media drives that should handle that task pretty easily. The real win is fixing mistakes quickly and only paying a small penalty for rendering only that small section. Nathaniel goes into that a bit. Come back with any other questions, Dank!
@@dabuchrister Very. Well. Said, Christer. I heartily agree. I no longer edit for a living, I actually work at Adobe now, however, I still edit my own projects. I tend to need access to revisions as well, since I make small errors or don't like spots of my edit during watchdown. Of course, I need to render again, but I'd rather it take seconds rather than another hour. We need more tuts like this, Nathaniel. Great job!
The main point of this tutorial is if you have an extremely big file to render. If you do whats in the tutorial and then find a mistake in the project, you can easily fix it and save lots of time.
Mission Creek Style I always thought using the previews is a lower quality by the nature of how premiere saves the previews compared to the export at the end?
As a PremPro newly you've saved me a ton of time. The project was going just fine but the render was going to take over 9 hours. Following your video it took less than 9 minutes! Thanks fella!
It would be great, if pr would have the background rendering. In this case u have to render it first, then export. Which is going to take the same time in total.
Hmm... That's interesting... But you think they could make this process a lot more transparent. I. E. A smart render button that will do the background stuff for you. This is interesting though. I have a 2 hour render going right now... :)
Smart rendering has been around for a long time, but around the first CC version is when it got interesting w/ ProRes/DNx/Cineform codecs. Sorry you didn't know about it.
Thanks for sharing this. I need to dig into this when using different camera types for a timeline. Probably won't work if I'm understanding this correctly.
Bro, you've saved me so much time. Sure if doesn't render five timse faster but it definitely cut the time in half for me to export. Definitely go my subscription.
This is one of the reasons why I'm after 18 years of using Pr, start to learn and use BMD Resolve. Instead of leading, Pr is always two steps behind rivals, and every new version is full of bugs and things that people on their forums are not asking. And those things that was asked by the users are totally ignored. Pr is obviously have their own path. But when I look back in the past few years and saw how much editors switch over to other editing programs, I'm affraid that this path is suicidal. Good luck Pr
Well, yeah. You can definitely just upload your smart rendered ProRes file. It will be of higher quality than a H.264 file. It's going to take longer and take more drive space, though. No big whoop, as you can delete it after you upload. That's what I do and get lots of compliments on my quality. Alternatively, you can take the ProRes master and create H.264 copies if you need them for a website or what have you. The encoding from ProRes to 264 will go quickly as there is no effects processing going on.
Great! I’ve been doing this for a while but wasn’t to sure If it makes a difference to the export time so thanks a lot for approving that it does! 👍 Might need to make another 1 min tutorial about this 🤔
I still don't get the point of pre-rendering and using previews as a way to speed up the export when... you still have to wait for it to pre-render. Wouldn't it amount to the same time anyway, pre-render + export w/ previews? Rendering is great for playing back the timeline in real-time in though! Great video, super articulate, fast-paced and NO wasted time. I wish more TH-camrs took a page from your book!
Man, what a time saver. This works for me, it's like taking advantage of the render preview files. more like hitting two birds using a single stone. Usually, I render my project sequence for better or smooth playback, but it always takes too long, then the exporting part takes much time again but this smart rendering saves a lot of time. No wonder why every time I click the "use preview" option when exporting, it still takes eons to render it's because I'm doing it wrong. Project sequence and export settings should match. Thank you, PS also the render time on Proress is incredibly fast, though the file size is too big when exported. Anyway, this really helps!!!
I want to ask if anyone knows, about this video smart rendering settings he's showing in video, can it be posted to TH-cam with a clean view? Or will it be black bars etc
Thank you for this! I had no idea that this even existed! It has sped up my render times bt also at a cost being on a windows computer since i have to render twice now. But your point about when you make changes later only affects that clip and the others remain rendered. This is helpful still when watching stuff back before export. Cheers
@@missioncreekstyle3814 I just followed this tutorial and it was the same render time with and without checking "use previews". H264 actually rendered faster. Any thoughts on why? Would it be because I'm doing prores on windows?
@@CodyPyper Actually, 1 year ago I don't think Premiere Pro had Quick Sync support on Intel Procs. H.264 with no effects could potentially be much faster. I might change my tune a bit these days, depending on your workflow.
Test Cinegy Daniel 2 Codec vs Voukoder 1.1.1. Both of them used Nvenc to output H264 and H265 videos up to 4K and can decrease rendering time to at least 2-5 time. I have been using them personally but I'd love an in-depth comparison along with Premiere Pro default codec. PS. don't forget to test out 4k 60fps HEVC performance. Thanks
Man, I love ur videos, huge thanks for making them. Every time I'm looking for a solution ur short and on-point videos are there. I'll test this method soon, thanks again!
I can see the benefit, once your video frames are rendered (and, sure, that render time is not going away, you're just moving up earlier in your workflow) you can continue to edit and revise your edits and drafts. As a test I just Rendered on the timeline a 6 minute video of 4k video with Lumetri color correction. There was about 25 minutes of rendering required. But then I can tweak and revise the order of the close clips, add music, adjust audio levels, etc. then render out new drafts for client review in our 90 seconds.
The one thing I'm still not clear on is what effect this workflow has on my proxy files? Am I no longer seeing or using the proxies in my workflow, even with the Proxy button is enabled on my program monitor?
This workflow will not work with proxies, unless you plan to render from your lesser quality proxy files.. because to take advantage of this you need to work with the original source files
@@missioncreekstyle3814 And a sorta thumbnail preview down the clip, like a 1 long clip could have more segments in it so you know roughly where to start editing.
Man this is a game changer for me as I'm editing with a 4 year old macbook pro and the exporting seems to take for ever! 😂Thank you so much for this tip! 🙏
Nicely done. Yes, for some purposes an auto render would be nice, but you have to remember that rendering gobles up resources faster than the langoliers chew up everything else. With apple, you hand over your first born or don't bother doing any high grade\artistic\graphic editing. You can do decent audio edits with just about anything they build, but to do video, you need a fully customized, $10-15k rig just to get onto the lowball zone, and then they drop support for accelerated engineering like CUDA that speeds up, refines, and drops better quality, so you just added a $500 grafix enhancer that now has the same power as the other $200 enhancer did. I dropped apple immediately after that. Premiere lets you build your own rendering workflow. I like that. I use it all because it has a logical flow. I use Prelude to forward proxy drops that make super small, horrible looking files and get to work on sequencing, then have media encoder drop a mid level proxy (h.26x), and a full size file with no compression, and I spread that work across machines. When I actually do any real power effects or have to do any big cleanup, I skip into After Effects with my (h.26x) proxy, then I farm that to two machines, one using max threads, the other only 2, while I examine other areas and plan more effects. Once the sequences are rendered from After Effects I drop the frame sequences into place on the timeline. By doing it this way, most rendering is done quickly and I control when and how it happens, and I can farm it out to a sitting machine while I continue with another part of the project. Where I have transitions, I render previews of the more accelerated ones only, and only while I'm making my edits. At the end, I relink the huge files to replace the footage, and then export my video(s). Because I manage most of my effects as frame sequences, they are already rendered, so they take almost no time, and the only step left is compression, and it doesn't have to uncompress a proxy file first. For output, I vary between Media Encoder and Premiere, depending on how many videos are coming out of the project, and whether or not I will be working on other projects while rendering. Sometimes I just jump over to Media Encoder on my spare machine and render it out while my main machine lets me start\continue another project. Adobe's refusal to add background pre-rendering saves core time and allows lower-powered, less pricey hardware to be utilized to make high end edit decisions, without taking resources away at inopportune moments. Doing this requires the editor to take on the extra responsibility of actually understanding a little more about how frame-based media works, and how their machines stack up in the power department. If you know your system well enough, you can leverage the power of after effects for plugins and effects, allowing you to continue working on other material while it renders. However, if you know your system well enough, and you understand how to run the command line based engine for after effects, you can even go a step further. You can use up to 2\3 of your available system resources\cores in after effects with little to no slowing of the work, provided you have at least 12gb of ram, a quad core or higher i7 (or powerful quad amd), a graphics card with 2gb or higher. This shortens render time but will lag the rest of the system. If you have a spare machine, you can have this running in a similar manner, but you can also split the job across the two machines for a much faster render, even while one of them only uses a little of its resources. By managing your renders actively, you will rack up about 15 to 20 minutes extra time to work, but cut off several hours of waiting around for your projects to render. I've had projects several hours long of old VHS being upconverted and processed run out to frames overnight on a single machine, then process through photoshop for cleanup and sharpening across long stretches in under 2 hours, while I also edit some cutting and transitioning in different parts in premiere. This is a simple, mid area gaming rig. But by managing the whole process and setting it properly through a command line setup of After effects, I got very nice results from a horribly unclear, badly focused, fuzzy, low grade VHS. Why did I do all that? Proof of concept. In a day, I had a rendered video that was clearer and cleaner than the original footage, and even though it did look a little clay-made from the smoothing of the upres, I used the original noise pattern in photoshop to apply enough back to the image to allow skin to look real, and played it all through an auto-process. Bottom line, I would like a checkbox for this function, not just adding it in and saying "up yours" like apple did. There are times it might help, with short clips and quick cuts. But my larger projects demand fast renders and continuous workflows, which is why I went to adobe in the first place. To make matters even worse, apple doesn't link between apps very well, unless you're talking about dropping out to compressor. When I make effects, when I move around, the amount of power I'm left with drops much faster than on my Win10 Adobe setup. Heck, my Mac Adobe setup does better than the final cut setup. I love using Logic pro for audio for music multitracks, but for edits just for video, I prefer audition, since I can output multiple formats out of the busses in the primary dialog, and they'll all export at once, either through the app or through Media Encoder, which, again, lets me continue working in the same app if I need to. With apple, you have to buy compressor separately, and you cannot send from logic pro out to compressor, you have to load the Logic project file into Compressor, and over the years, they've had some iterations require the file to be closed while outputting. Thank you but I would like to continue working so I can make more money, and not get fired for being late with the exported final product. Adobe makes that easier by giving me the power to decide how and when to render.
It would've been really nice if Premiere Pro had included H.264 codec in Sequence Settings and people can render in and out while working on their project. Unfortunately the option is not available hence mp4 format cannot be exported using Match Sequence Settings and Use Previews. With QuichTime the file size is way way bigger offering the same quality picture like H.264, and that's not good. In other words most of those who upload to TH-cam or Vmeo can't take advantage of the faster rendering in the end because they would like small file sizes with mp4 extension to upload fast...obviously.
First, Im using Windows. Second, when I apply color grad, sharpening and all that weird effects the rendering in timeline becomes eternal, so I think in lightweight fast proyects this may works, but when its a heavy processed project I have my doubt
The self-defeating thing about smart rendering is keeping the codec and sizes the same throughout the workflow. That means you're exporting to a format that ultimately you're not going to be able to deliver. I mean, so what if it exported quickly? I'm still going to have to transcode it to H. 264 1080p to deliver it. That's going to take as much time as it would have taken just simply exporting it from the timeline in that format.
I don't have that experience, Stan. I find that the transcode to H.264 to be pretty fast and very reliable. When you offload all the effects processing to preview files, it's much faster than a standard way of exporting. Since you're scaling, make sure you've got a powerful GPU to make that process go faster.
But on exporting ur video,i ddnt see u punching those mixumum render quality boxes 🙂🙂 dont u see it will reduce ur video quality,and also it will br fast as there is no muximum quality,jus askin🙏🏻🙏🏻
Meanwhile Avid has always done this automatically. Once you render something, it's done. You can just render in and outs and that's it. Go to export and the rendering is already done. It just needs to transcode. It also has background rendering.
and now render a musicvideo with a lot of vhs effects and other effects and cuts and luts and tell me again you have a tip for rendering 5x faster..good joke
It sounds like you didn't get the premise. It's not about rendering previews, it's about rendering exports. You need to render as you go, at coffee, at lunch, at bathroom breaks, when you walk away. Then, when you export, you use Nathan's method. Does this make more sense?
Please correct me if I'm wrong but this seems misleading. Use previews has been around longer than smart render. One uses the preview files pre rendered as you explained, but smart render talks about the "source" clips. So the time saved could be a actually rendering the preview ( or on final export not using previews) which you didn't test. Easy mistake to make if I'm right. Looks like a combination of these is best I would say shooting in one of the supported formats is the ideal workflow solution to take advantage.?
I was taught some time ago to always export with 'Time Interpolation' set to 'Optical Flow'. You have yours set to 'Frame Sampling'. What effect does either setting have on the exported video? TIA
This option is only relevant if your sequence doesn't match your export. For something like a 24fps sequence that you're exporting at 24fps, it won't make any difference. If you are exporting at a different frame rate, then the option you choose will tell Premiere how to deal with the odd frames - just like when you choose time interpolation for individual clips in your sequence.
watching and using this tool in Octuber 2021. Unfortunately, it didn't work for me. The final video file size is too big so it's not an option for me. H264 gives me the aproximate final video file size and that's really important when you are trying with long videos. I tried with a 4:27 long video. With H264 in medium bitrate gave me a 7 GB file. For H264, just for the first 20 minutes it gave me a 16GB file. Hope it works my experience.
new to Premiere Pro here. Question: will this work if im rendering Iphone11 videos (codecs: AAC, Timed Metadata, HEVC) or do i even need this to speed up rendering/exporting? This quarantine just made me wanting to create a 4-6 minute videos of our previous travels and im loving the Premiere Pro 2020 so far minus the lag. Thanks in advance
I'm trying to render and export video from Premiere Pro CC. All my video files in Premiere are imported comps from After Effects. Its taking forever to do anything. A 10 minute video is taking hours to render and export. How do you solve THIS problem?
hello hope you ok. Happy New year. Need your help in premier pro. my 2 minute timeline video takes more than 3 hours for render..I tried the way you explained in your video but its still same thing comes up. can you help me please. Regards,Panam
Hi Please help me When I EXPORT video with caption Cannot send subtitles with video to Media Encoder Can you explain how to send subtitles to Media Encoder with video from Premiere
Would those settings still apply to a sequence of 1920 x 1080, or do i have to change the quicktime codec to something else, I get this makes it faster for a footage of 4k but I have a video 40 min on HD
what about uploading it somewhere else... I am trying to figure out how can I upload a video quick.. a 30 min vid with all this settings is 4 hours lol
It was usefull but it is harder to playback now. Cuz in my 4k project premiere was playing back the timeline in 1080 as default. But since we turned it to 4k it is harder to playback now.
Bru... it has been 2 days figuring out why some layers in my after effects comp doesn't show in the comp 2 Or after rendering, it only shows the background
try rendering with software rendering, sometimes the mercury engine using graphic cards will have problems with more complex comp, also make sure the layers are visible in comp (little eye button on the left side)
Does anyone know why if I try to render previews, Premiere just plays back the timeline instead of rendering? It renders if the timeline is red but if its yellow it just plays it...
Hey thanks for your great tutorial, just one question: I am editing and rendering 1h webinar videos regularily to upload them to youtube.. smart rendering wont help me with that right?
I tried this too and I checked both “Match sequence settings” and “Use previews” and it’s still slow as usual. It drives me insane and if someone would know the solution that would be very appreciated😂
This just cut my rendering time down from 8 hours to 7 minutes 😂😂 thank you!
really bro ??
It takes hours if you export a long clip at 4k, changing export format to Pro Res 422 HQ and rendering in advance like in this video really exports in seconds/minutes depending on the duration
@@khanstudioz9543 I am making a podcast video with After Effects Dynamic Link in Premiere. How much it takes if I use this tip?
After days of frustration trying to cut an 8-hour export time down (on a two-minute video!), this video absolutely SAVED me. Thank you!
"H.264 is good because it has a small file size"
Meanwhile, on my computer:
Estimated file size: 2057mb
thats a small file size
Hazza_RL not for a 10 min yt vid
2 minutes videos taking 2 hour for exporting in premier pro what's the reason..???
Sagar P Mohan i had the same problem. My storage was full so I emptied my computer and now exporting takes less time
@@ffofo7208 I am working on a hard disk. Is there any problem with the project setting?
I'm just finished editing a 30 minutes short film and tried doing this for sending to a client. And of course it works. It works so beautiful. And it also works for a musicvideo with effects and all that. So thx again buddy!
Andres Olsen Hey, I have a 36 minutes wedding video I’m trying to export and I’m only just doing the first part at 3:12. It started around 30 minutes ago and it’s saving I’ve got 2 hours and 20 minutes left. Is that how long it’s supposed to take?
@@samira-fd8gu try to follow the whole video👌🏼
Ayyy nice. I was pushing this back in the summer, Cineform is great with this :)
Also, setting up your project's Scratch folders to a local SSD with help a ton with performance - especially important if you're editing from a NAS and doing this.
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Your videos on this topic (smart rendering) are really good too, @EposVox. Good on you!
THIS saved my project. Thank you so much. I was so anxious for a second.
Thank you for this tutorial! So useful! I actually render my footage piece by piece when I am satisfied of my work. I would rather wait a few minutes a couple of times than a whole hour :)
I found a way to export even faster. There's an export plugin called Voukoder that lets you dump straight to FFmpeg without a frameserver, and that means you can use AMD AMF or Nvidia NVENC acceleration for H.264 video encoding.
Is there a tutorial on this?
Yes. Thank you. That makes my life so much better when trying to export
Dude, you can use the "use preview" with any format
Lauri Inki Are you saying that if I use previews with H.264 and my own quality settings, it would still use the previews I rendered out with 422 Pro Res HQ?
@@RobDonaldson I don't think that would work, but good to give it a shot. I use myself the TH-cam format preset with little tweaks.
It is a good tip and it works...only issue is that a 9 min video using 264 will render in 10 minutes and output a roughly 700 meg file, while using your method the render is 15G in size. While it will render in 20 seconds after, a considerable savings of 9 minutes and 40 seconds, you will still need to run this through Handbrake to bring the size down and this process will take about 5 minutes. But in all you will have saved 5 minutes... but you still need to render the original with your method and this will take the same amount of time it would have needed originally.
A big thank you for this info.... I had a 20 minutes video that took for ever to render.... You made my deadline possible .... Thank you!!!!!!
What kind of witchcraft is this???? A 25 seconds test clip went from 23 seconds render time down to less than 5 seconds!!!!! 😳😳😳 Thanks man!! you really saved us a ton of time!!!
But you spend time rendering the timeline? So when you add that to the final export, doesn't that kind of offset time saved? And because you've switched your preview files to 4k quicktime files, doesn't that also slow down rendering your timeline?
I tend to render the timeline to get smooth playback during editing. so, you can take advantage of that render.
You only pay the render tax if you do it at the end of your editing process. Most editors "render as they go." Like at lunch, when you get up for a break, overnight, etc. By the time you are ready to export the rendering is already near completion in most cases. 4K QuickTime ProRes previews have much better performance than H.264 4K files, in my experience. That said, you should have a fast set of media drives that should handle that task pretty easily. The real win is fixing mistakes quickly and only paying a small penalty for rendering only that small section. Nathaniel goes into that a bit. Come back with any other questions, Dank!
@@dabuchrister Very. Well. Said, Christer. I heartily agree. I no longer edit for a living, I actually work at Adobe now, however, I still edit my own projects. I tend to need access to revisions as well, since I make small errors or don't like spots of my edit during watchdown. Of course, I need to render again, but I'd rather it take seconds rather than another hour.
We need more tuts like this, Nathaniel. Great job!
The main point of this tutorial is if you have an extremely big file to render. If you do whats in the tutorial and then find a mistake in the project, you can easily fix it and save lots of time.
Mission Creek Style I always thought using the previews is a lower quality by the nature of how premiere saves the previews compared to the export at the end?
As a PremPro newly you've saved me a ton of time. The project was going just fine but the render was going to take over 9 hours. Following your video it took less than 9 minutes! Thanks fella!
U are a lifesaver
It would be great, if pr would have the background rendering. In this case u have to render it first, then export. Which is going to take the same time in total.
Hmm... That's interesting... But you think they could make this process a lot more transparent. I. E. A smart render button that will do the background stuff for you.
This is interesting though. I have a 2 hour render going right now... :)
Is smart rendering for YOUTube to post on? Nobody seems to answer this question
Smart rendering has been around for a long time, but around the first CC version is when it got interesting w/ ProRes/DNx/Cineform codecs. Sorry you didn't know about it.
Thanks! I’ve been sitting around for over an hour each time
Thanks for sharing this. I need to dig into this when using different camera types for a timeline. Probably won't work if I'm understanding this correctly.
Which camera are you using?
Bro, you've saved me so much time. Sure if doesn't render five timse faster but it definitely cut the time in half for me to export. Definitely go my subscription.
This is one of the reasons why I'm after 18 years of using Pr, start to learn and use BMD Resolve. Instead of leading, Pr is always two steps behind rivals, and every new version is full of bugs and things that people on their forums are not asking. And those things that was asked by the users are totally ignored. Pr is obviously have their own path. But when I look back in the past few years and saw how much editors switch over to other editing programs, I'm affraid that this path is suicidal. Good luck Pr
I've been using H264. Any recommendations of the same or better codec for ultimate quality for TH-cam?
@Russki Crisp What about H265 hevc?
Well, yeah. You can definitely just upload your smart rendered ProRes file. It will be of higher quality than a H.264 file. It's going to take longer and take more drive space, though. No big whoop, as you can delete it after you upload. That's what I do and get lots of compliments on my quality.
Alternatively, you can take the ProRes master and create H.264 copies if you need them for a website or what have you. The encoding from ProRes to 264 will go quickly as there is no effects processing going on.
@@jordan.rushing It's not a smart rendering aware codec...unfortunately.
I Think HEVC( H265) Is Much better, but i think quick time format is much much better
This is the most helpful thing I've ever found on the internet! Thanks!
I m here because my video had so many effects and I had no time u saved my life bro good bless u
Great! I’ve been doing this for a while but wasn’t to sure If it makes a difference to the export time so thanks a lot for approving that it does! 👍 Might need to make another 1 min tutorial about this 🤔
I still don't get the point of pre-rendering and using previews as a way to speed up the export when... you still have to wait for it to pre-render. Wouldn't it amount to the same time anyway, pre-render + export w/ previews? Rendering is great for playing back the timeline in real-time in though! Great video, super articulate, fast-paced and NO wasted time. I wish more TH-camrs took a page from your book!
Base on your analysis, I adjusted the sequence settings to match the export settings and the timeline rendered with ease using H.264. Thanks
did it render faster even if it's H.264 ?
Excellent idea I will give it a try. Normally I export by starting it and either going to dinner or hitting the sack.
Man, what a time saver. This works for me, it's like taking advantage of the render preview files. more like hitting two birds using a single stone. Usually, I render my project sequence for better or smooth playback, but it always takes too long, then the exporting part takes much time again but this smart rendering saves a lot of time. No wonder why every time I click the "use preview" option when exporting, it still takes eons to render it's because I'm doing it wrong. Project sequence and export settings should match. Thank you, PS also the render time on Proress is incredibly fast, though the file size is too big when exported. Anyway, this really helps!!!
Have you ever got bored watching Nate's vids? I haven't and I bet you cannot make me!
lol, at first glance I was like what? huh? um. no. Then I saw your punchline and I sighed relief
I want to ask if anyone knows, about this video smart rendering settings he's showing in video, can it be posted to TH-cam with a clean view? Or will it be black bars etc
2+ years later and still helping ppl
Thank you for this! I had no idea that this even existed! It has sped up my render times bt also at a cost being on a windows computer since i have to render twice now. But your point about when you make changes later only affects that clip and the others remain rendered. This is helpful still when watching stuff back before export. Cheers
Currently exporting a video and just came to TH-cam to see this, will keep it in mind for tomorrow! Thanks!
Try it and let us know what you think.
Are these settings to post on TH-cam?
@@missioncreekstyle3814 I just followed this tutorial and it was the same render time with and without checking "use previews". H264 actually rendered faster. Any thoughts on why? Would it be because I'm doing prores on windows?
@@CodyPyper Actually, 1 year ago I don't think Premiere Pro had Quick Sync support on Intel Procs. H.264 with no effects could potentially be much faster. I might change my tune a bit these days, depending on your workflow.
Test Cinegy Daniel 2 Codec vs Voukoder 1.1.1. Both of them used Nvenc to output H264 and H265 videos up to 4K and can decrease rendering time to at least 2-5 time. I have been using them personally but I'd love an in-depth comparison along with Premiere Pro default codec.
PS. don't forget to test out 4k 60fps HEVC performance. Thanks
Man, I love ur videos, huge thanks for making them. Every time I'm looking for a solution ur short and on-point videos are there. I'll test this method soon, thanks again!
Hey great video, just wondering what camera you use to shoot the video facing yourself. :) Thank you
I can see the benefit, once your video frames are rendered (and, sure, that render time is not going away, you're just moving up earlier in your workflow) you can continue to edit and revise your edits and drafts. As a test I just Rendered on the timeline a 6 minute video of 4k video with Lumetri color correction. There was about 25 minutes of rendering required. But then I can tweak and revise the order of the close clips, add music, adjust audio levels, etc. then render out new drafts for client review in our 90 seconds.
The one thing I'm still not clear on is what effect this workflow has on my proxy files? Am I no longer seeing or using the proxies in my workflow, even with the Proxy button is enabled on my program monitor?
This workflow will not work with proxies, unless you plan to render from your lesser quality proxy files.. because to take advantage of this you need to work with the original source files
For quick edits, I would love it if Premiere had a little scrubby display for the razor tool.
Thanks for the tips!
That's a cool idea!
@@tutvid Patented :)
@@heyimamaker Feature Request that here.
@@missioncreekstyle3814 And a sorta thumbnail preview down the clip, like a 1 long clip could have more segments in it so you know roughly where to start editing.
Great video...I'm gonna have to try this out.
your tips are insane
your soo much understand the software how it works
Great helpful video! what settings should i use to export a long 1 hour video podcast to youtube? are these the settings you use to export to youtube?
Cool, I'll try that tonight!
Man this is a game changer for me as I'm editing with a 4 year old macbook pro and the exporting seems to take for ever! 😂Thank you so much for this tip! 🙏
I edit on a 7 years old iMac. Just rendering a 17minutes vlog and it says it will take 4 hours to render.
I’m gonna give this a shot later when I edit my video. Thanks!
Nicely done. Yes, for some purposes an auto render would be nice, but you have to remember that rendering gobles up resources faster than the langoliers chew up everything else. With apple, you hand over your first born or don't bother doing any high grade\artistic\graphic editing. You can do decent audio edits with just about anything they build, but to do video, you need a fully customized, $10-15k rig just to get onto the lowball zone, and then they drop support for accelerated engineering like CUDA that speeds up, refines, and drops better quality, so you just added a $500 grafix enhancer that now has the same power as the other $200 enhancer did. I dropped apple immediately after that.
Premiere lets you build your own rendering workflow. I like that. I use it all because it has a logical flow. I use Prelude to forward proxy drops that make super small, horrible looking files and get to work on sequencing, then have media encoder drop a mid level proxy (h.26x), and a full size file with no compression, and I spread that work across machines. When I actually do any real power effects or have to do any big cleanup, I skip into After Effects with my (h.26x) proxy, then I farm that to two machines, one using max threads, the other only 2, while I examine other areas and plan more effects. Once the sequences are rendered from After Effects I drop the frame sequences into place on the timeline. By doing it this way, most rendering is done quickly and I control when and how it happens, and I can farm it out to a sitting machine while I continue with another part of the project. Where I have transitions, I render previews of the more accelerated ones only, and only while I'm making my edits. At the end, I relink the huge files to replace the footage, and then export my video(s). Because I manage most of my effects as frame sequences, they are already rendered, so they take almost no time, and the only step left is compression, and it doesn't have to uncompress a proxy file first. For output, I vary between Media Encoder and Premiere, depending on how many videos are coming out of the project, and whether or not I will be working on other projects while rendering. Sometimes I just jump over to Media Encoder on my spare machine and render it out while my main machine lets me start\continue another project.
Adobe's refusal to add background pre-rendering saves core time and allows lower-powered, less pricey hardware to be utilized to make high end edit decisions, without taking resources away at inopportune moments. Doing this requires the editor to take on the extra responsibility of actually understanding a little more about how frame-based media works, and how their machines stack up in the power department. If you know your system well enough, you can leverage the power of after effects for plugins and effects, allowing you to continue working on other material while it renders. However, if you know your system well enough, and you understand how to run the command line based engine for after effects, you can even go a step further. You can use up to 2\3 of your available system resources\cores in after effects with little to no slowing of the work, provided you have at least 12gb of ram, a quad core or higher i7 (or powerful quad amd), a graphics card with 2gb or higher. This shortens render time but will lag the rest of the system. If you have a spare machine, you can have this running in a similar manner, but you can also split the job across the two machines for a much faster render, even while one of them only uses a little of its resources. By managing your renders actively, you will rack up about 15 to 20 minutes extra time to work, but cut off several hours of waiting around for your projects to render.
I've had projects several hours long of old VHS being upconverted and processed run out to frames overnight on a single machine, then process through photoshop for cleanup and sharpening across long stretches in under 2 hours, while I also edit some cutting and transitioning in different parts in premiere. This is a simple, mid area gaming rig. But by managing the whole process and setting it properly through a command line setup of After effects, I got very nice results from a horribly unclear, badly focused, fuzzy, low grade VHS. Why did I do all that? Proof of concept. In a day, I had a rendered video that was clearer and cleaner than the original footage, and even though it did look a little clay-made from the smoothing of the upres, I used the original noise pattern in photoshop to apply enough back to the image to allow skin to look real, and played it all through an auto-process.
Bottom line, I would like a checkbox for this function, not just adding it in and saying "up yours" like apple did. There are times it might help, with short clips and quick cuts. But my larger projects demand fast renders and continuous workflows, which is why I went to adobe in the first place.
To make matters even worse, apple doesn't link between apps very well, unless you're talking about dropping out to compressor. When I make effects, when I move around, the amount of power I'm left with drops much faster than on my Win10 Adobe setup. Heck, my Mac Adobe setup does better than the final cut setup. I love using Logic pro for audio for music multitracks, but for edits just for video, I prefer audition, since I can output multiple formats out of the busses in the primary dialog, and they'll all export at once, either through the app or through Media Encoder, which, again, lets me continue working in the same app if I need to. With apple, you have to buy compressor separately, and you cannot send from logic pro out to compressor, you have to load the Logic project file into Compressor, and over the years, they've had some iterations require the file to be closed while outputting. Thank you but I would like to continue working so I can make more money, and not get fired for being late with the exported final product. Adobe makes that easier by giving me the power to decide how and when to render.
keep an eye on the PREVIEW FILES FOLDERS and MEDIA CACHE FOLDERS because that pre-render files are not on the cloud.
Great video as always, thanks tutvid
Great tips man! I'm going to try this and experiment with it. Thanks
5X faster, more like 1million X faster! Thanks man!
It would've been really nice if Premiere Pro had included H.264 codec in Sequence Settings and people can render in and out while working on their project. Unfortunately the option is not available hence mp4 format cannot be exported using Match Sequence Settings and Use Previews. With QuichTime the file size is way way bigger offering the same quality picture like H.264, and that's not good. In other words most of those who upload to TH-cam or Vmeo can't take advantage of the faster rendering in the end because they would like small file sizes with mp4 extension to upload fast...obviously.
Thanks a ton! You are truly an expert who now exactly what he is doing :)!
Thanks for your great advice, I am hopeful that Adobe will include export to DCP for Adobe Encoder next!
First, Im using Windows. Second, when I apply color grad, sharpening and all that weird effects the rendering in timeline becomes eternal, so I think in lightweight fast proyects this may works, but when its a heavy processed project I have my doubt
The self-defeating thing about smart rendering is keeping the codec and sizes the same throughout the workflow. That means you're exporting to a format that ultimately you're not going to be able to deliver. I mean, so what if it exported quickly? I'm still going to have to transcode it to H. 264 1080p to deliver it. That's going to take as much time as it would have taken just simply exporting it from the timeline in that format.
I don't have that experience, Stan. I find that the transcode to H.264 to be pretty fast and very reliable. When you offload all the effects processing to preview files, it's much faster than a standard way of exporting. Since you're scaling, make sure you've got a powerful GPU to make that process go faster.
The kind of tutorial that I really need today. Thaaankk you so much. This will really save a lot of time.
This video was really really helpful and it works exactly as claimed. Thanks a lot for helping!
Amazing, Really helpful! Thanks Bro!
But on exporting ur video,i ddnt see u punching those mixumum render quality boxes 🙂🙂 dont u see it will reduce ur video quality,and also it will br fast as there is no muximum quality,jus askin🙏🏻🙏🏻
This is pure gold
Thanks a lot for the video. Saved me huge amount of time.
You legend! That was the best explanation.
amazing! this is beautiful!!! thanks for the tutorial
Meanwhile Avid has always done this automatically. Once you render something, it's done. You can just render in and outs and that's it. Go to export and the rendering is already done. It just needs to transcode. It also has background rendering.
and now render a musicvideo with a lot of vhs effects and other effects and cuts and luts and tell me again you have a tip for rendering 5x faster..good joke
It sounds like you didn't get the premise. It's not about rendering previews, it's about rendering exports. You need to render as you go, at coffee, at lunch, at bathroom breaks, when you walk away. Then, when you export, you use Nathan's method. Does this make more sense?
@@Shotby100k Use your video renders in your exports to save exporting time.
any reason for when or when not to select "use maximum render quality"?
Get it! Got it! Good! is catchy
Please correct me if I'm wrong but this seems misleading. Use previews has been around longer than smart render. One uses the preview files pre rendered as you explained, but smart render talks about the "source" clips. So the time saved could be a actually rendering the preview ( or on final export not using previews) which you didn't test. Easy mistake to make if I'm right. Looks like a combination of these is best I would say shooting in one of the supported formats is the ideal workflow solution to take advantage.?
This is amazing. I'm still really noob at Premiere Pro but this helps! Thanks!
Also, side note, you remind me of Tom Hardy :)
I was taught some time ago to always export with 'Time Interpolation' set to 'Optical Flow'. You have yours set to 'Frame Sampling'. What effect does either setting have on the exported video? TIA
This option is only relevant if your sequence doesn't match your export. For something like a 24fps sequence that you're exporting at 24fps, it won't make any difference.
If you are exporting at a different frame rate, then the option you choose will tell Premiere how to deal with the odd frames - just like when you choose time interpolation for individual clips in your sequence.
THANKS!
watching and using this tool in Octuber 2021. Unfortunately, it didn't work for me. The final video file size is too big so it's not an option for me. H264 gives me the aproximate final video file size and that's really important when you are trying with long videos.
I tried with a 4:27 long video. With H264 in medium bitrate gave me a 7 GB file. For H264, just for the first 20 minutes it gave me a 16GB file.
Hope it works my experience.
Another great video. Thanks.
Sweet!:) Thank you!
Should i also use the apple pro res if i want to export to youtube from my pc?
And if not what do i use then? New to this sorry
new to Premiere Pro here. Question: will this work if im rendering Iphone11 videos (codecs: AAC, Timed Metadata, HEVC) or do i even need this to speed up rendering/exporting? This quarantine just made me wanting to create a 4-6 minute videos of our previous travels and im loving the Premiere Pro 2020 so far minus the lag. Thanks in advance
Well this saved my life and my computer that would try and export at 100% CPU 😅 I can't thank you enough for this video !
Hey Nathaniel why does my video play back choppy after rendering? It doesn’t play back smoothly until I’ve exported. Thanks
Try the proxy workflow. You are probably using H.264 Long GOP 4K. That's tough for any computer to decode, TBH.
Resolution
I have a late 2015 5k iMac with 1TB fusion drive and it still exports at about 10 minutes with these settings. Could you help me? Any tips?
I'm trying to render and export video from Premiere Pro CC. All my video files in Premiere are imported comps from After Effects. Its taking forever to do anything. A 10 minute video is taking hours to render and export. How do you solve THIS problem?
hello hope you ok. Happy New year. Need your help in premier pro. my 2 minute timeline video takes more than 3 hours for render..I tried the way you explained in your video but its still same thing comes up. can you help me please. Regards,Panam
This is huuuuge thank you
Hi
Please help me
When I EXPORT video with caption
Cannot send subtitles with video to Media Encoder
Can you explain how to send subtitles to Media Encoder with video from Premiere
it takes more than an hour to render a 10 second video, great program, wow
So ,will his work on laptop that takes 5 hours to encode 4 minutes of footage???
Would those settings still apply to a sequence of 1920 x 1080, or do i have to change the quicktime codec to something else, I get this makes it faster for a footage of 4k but I have a video 40 min on HD
Thank you kindly!!
Thanks Nate!
Are certain codecs better for certain camera brands? Or could I use ProRes422 or DnxHD for any branded camera?
This only shaved about 6 minutes off my 30 minute render, sadly, but I guess that's 6 minutes saved. Thanks!
what about uploading it somewhere else... I am trying to figure out how can I upload a video quick.. a 30 min vid with all this settings is 4 hours lol
It was usefull but it is harder to playback now. Cuz in my 4k project premiere was playing back the timeline in 1080 as default. But since we turned it to 4k it is harder to playback now.
Is Smart Video settings, can it be posted for TH-cam?
Bru... it has been 2 days figuring out why some layers in my after effects comp doesn't show in the comp 2
Or after rendering, it only shows the background
try rendering with software rendering, sometimes the mercury engine using graphic cards will have problems with more complex comp, also make sure the layers are visible in comp (little eye button on the left side)
@@ganzelmedia5935 bro your 2yo comment made my life easy, thank u
@@MMOMEN Always a pleasure to help! Cheers!
Does anyone know why if I try to render previews, Premiere just plays back the timeline instead of rendering? It renders if the timeline is red but if its yellow it just plays it...
BRO!!! This literally saved me! Unreal!
Hey thanks for your great tutorial, just one question: I am editing and rendering 1h webinar videos regularily to upload them to youtube.. smart rendering wont help me with that right?
I tried this too and I checked both “Match sequence settings” and “Use previews” and it’s still slow as usual. It drives me insane and if someone would know the solution that would be very appreciated😂
What are the cons of quick time exporting?
They need to introduce H.264 - Great vid Nate!!!!!!
can you use smart rendering in after effects as well?