Controversy aside, it's just so frustrating how way too many politicians in the USA and Canada and their supporters would rather waste billions on useless highway expansions than even consider building new passenger rail projects as huge as Tren Maya.
Brightline is slowly changing this stigma. They had over 2 million passengers on the Florida line in 2023. The ridership continues to grow and this year has already reached 2 million passengers at the end of September. Also, if the election goes normally, they'll have a chance to build and operate a line from the outskirts of LA to Vegas by the end of the decade.
Everybody…let’s move to Mexico after the U.S. election 😤😤😤…I don’t care who wins..both are terrible people..and it’ll be another 4 years of problems, people bitching about the policies and more problems..it’s a cycle. Mexico looks very good for new investments.
@@Dqtube Yup, we voted to destroy our economy and our freedom to trade, travel and work in the largest trading area in the world. Meanwhile, we have spent ten years listening to idiots moaning about a few miles of railway, the stub end of which that will now actually be completed has been rendered useless by a corrupt government desperately trying unsuccessfully to cling to power. I think there is room for criticism to be honest 😀 I think Mexico has done far better!
a referendum with 2% turnout, and UN observers criticizing the government’s incredibly dodgy half-assed consultation of Indigenous assemblies and the running of this vote for a line owned by the military - yes a world model lol...
Nice concha! Conchas are said to be introduced to Mexico by French bakers. It is also believed that the idea came from a nobleman that dipped a piece of bread into some hot chocolate in front of many people and told them they should do it too. It's similar to Hong Kong's pineapple bun, which was inspired by the concha by scoring the sweet bread to look similar to a pineapple skin. Mexicans leave conchas as part of the offerings in an ofrenda during Día de los Muertos. Love the jaguar symbolism of the Tren Maya! In Mesoamerican communities, jaguars were one of the most revered animals. Every major Mesoamerican civilization had a jaguar god, many of which were important parts of their religion. These communities viewed jaguars as symbols of strength and power. For example, the Aztecs called the jaguar ocelotl and considered it to be the king of the animals. They named their most elite warriors “cuāuhocēlōtl”, a combination of the Aztec words for eagle and jaguar. They wore costumes that made them resemble these majestic cats and lead their communities both on the battlefield and at home. In Aztec culture, many believed that shamans could transform into jaguars at will and would become jaguars after they died. In the Maya civilization, the jaguar was known as balam or bolom' in many of the Mayan languages, and was used to symbolize warriors and the elite class for being brave, fierce and strong. The cat was associated with the underworld and its image was used to decorate tombs and grave-good vessels. Jaguar comes from the Tupi-Guarani word yaguara meaning "wild beast that overcomes its prey at a bound". It is the biggest cat species in the Americas and the third largest in the world. Relative to their size, they have the strongest bite of the cat kingdom. The jaguar's powerful bite allows it to pierce the carapaces of turtles and tortoises, and to employ an unusual killing method, it bites directly through the skull of mammalian prey between the ears to deliver a fatal blow to the brain. It kills capybara by piercing its canine teeth through the temporal bones of its skull, breaking its zygomatic arch and mandible and penetrating its brain, often through the ears. While a jaguar’s bite force is only three-quarters as strong as a tiger’s bite force, jaguars have the stronger bites since they are considerably smaller (up to 170 cm long, not including their tails, which can grow up to 80 cm). Jaguars can’t quite reach the 70 miles per hour of the cheetah, but they reach a very respectable 50 mph. This makes them the second-fastest big cats in the world. Jaguars are excellent swimmers. Jaguars are excellent swimmers. They can hold their breath for as long as 15 to 20 minutes, and researchers have reported that the jaguars can hold their breath for as long as 1 hour approximately. They have adapted to living in wet environments, and hunt aquatic or semi-aquatic creatures like fish, turtles, caimans, and capybaras. They also hunt for deer, birds, opossums, and armadillos.
C'est vraiment impressionnant cette infrastructure réalisée en si peu de temps ! Super reportage Thibault. Je suis vraiment content pour le Mexique, un pays qui va de l'avant avec la construction d'infrastructures durables et de qualité et qui prend les moyens pour éviter que la corruption ne vienne nuire a ce genre de projets. En plus, ça devrait aider à ce que les touristes des stations balnéaires aillent dépenser un peu leur argent à l'intérieur des terres et ainsi mieux distribuer cette manne. En espérant que ça va secouer un peu le Canada et les États-Unis... car disons le, notre transport ferroviaire au Canada est le pire de tout le G7. Dire qu'en 20 ans, la Chine à construit 46 000 km de LGV et que les É-U en arrachent avec leur projet californien de seulement 700 km qui ne sera pas en fonction avant 2035...
Or more likely: not until maybe 2050 for the LA to SF CAHSR route to begin operating, considering all of the planned tunneling that has not even begun the digging operations yet.
Thank you very much for uploading this video, finally a review channel that was able to upload this travel experience on the Mayan Train, I couldn't find any because they are all from Politics talking about how good and bad it is (pure politics) and finally, a review perfect from this trip. I'm from Mexico but I don't live in that region of the country, so thank you very much for coming to this country and I hope you loved it.
I think Tren Maya is a system that makes Mexico proud. This railroad is a major step forward but it makes me mad when neither party has the balls to build a system. Our highways are way too crowded and a decent rail system is a serious step towards putting the US on rails again.
There are numerous American passenger rail projects in the works, but the evil NJB won't talk about them and neither will his fanboys invading this video.
@@crowmob-yo6ry i see you comment on everything that is critical of US and canada rail projects. Your feelings must be hurt. Stop being judgemental, and let it go. Hollow barrels sound the loudest
@@lexburen5932 man he is just stating the truth and look it up Brightline West for the Olmypics in 2028 as well as the High Speed California Rail. Not to mentioned the talk discussions between Dallas and Houston hoping one day it will be a dream!
As part of the project, hotels, museums, and ecotourism parks were also built. Once the passenger line is finished, the tracks will be opened for freight transport (as well as a small expansion to a port). Also, Alstom has a train construction plant in Mexico.
I'm glad you got to the Train system down there! I am surprised it was the Military that financed this. A Remarkable Achievement! Mexico has a lot of those who own cars, but they see the idea of transporting people long distance and competing with Low cost Jets work better here. I also noticed many got on and off the local areas, plus the Tourists at Chichen-Itza!
Gracias por tu experiencia de viaje en los dos trenes y las reseñas sobre tu punto de vista en mi pais , te falta que tengas experiencia en el TREN INTEROCEÁNICO
Hi Friend, I loved your video about the Mayan Train, I also remind you that the interoceanic train is a more modest line than the Insurgente or the Mayan Train, but it is really worth it since HST trains from the UK run on that route.
I really enjoy your videos and subtitles. I do have feedback on the subtitles, when watching on a smaller screen the amount of subtitles hide half of the video. Maybe you can have one sentence at a time.
Just to make sure we got this right .....the TREN MAYA has a length of 1554 km that covers the the states of Yucatan. Chiapas , Campeche , Quintana Roo and Tabasco ............ the island of Gret Britain where Ingland is located has 1100 km in length and 500 km in width !!
@@federicotietz2929 Falta el último tramo, pero lo demás funciona muy bien y ofrece un servicio de calidad. Se espera que este año se complete el servicio de pasajeros y se comience a introducir el servicio de carga, lo que hará de Mérida un polo de desarrollo industrial (aunque de por sí ya tiene bastante industria)
Latin America is often overlooked in the transit community but has just as interesting transit as the rest of the world, like the Mi Teleférico gondola system in La Paz, Valparaíso's many funiculars, Panama Metro, Hershey Electric Railway interurban in Cuba (fun fact: Cuba was the very first Hispanic country to get trains in 1837; Spain itself wouldn't until 1848), or Buenos Aires's Subte! As you saw on the front of the trains, it says "Tsíimin K'áak". This is the Yucatec Maya word for train. Tsíimin means horse, and K'áak means fire, so literally translated, the train is a fire horse (or a Rapidash lol)! This translation makes sense considering the steam trains that historically ran there. As mentioned, Xiinbal means "to walk". For the other types, Janal means "to eat", and P'atal means "to stay". I know people will complain the stations are outside the cities, but this was done to avoid major construction complications and disruption to existing urban infrastructure. This tourist intercity train approach reminds me of the LIRR's Montauk Branch. The Montauk Branch provides year-round service for the locals of LI's South Shore and South Fork, but during the summer, it's pretty much a tourist train for those partying in the Hamptons, visiting the famous Montauk Point Lighthouse, or heading out to Fire Island by ferry (Fire Island communities are mainly car-free and isolated; ferries are a lifeline). The Cannonball provides express weekend summer service to the Hamptons, originating in 1899 between Long Island City and Montauk or Greenport via the Main Line (the consist heading to Greenport split off from the Montauk-bound consist at Manorville; track no longer exists between Manorville and the Montauk Branch), before service from NY Penn Station in Manhattan began in 1911. In 1934, the train permanently adopted its present-day route, a single train from Penn Station to Montauk along the Montauk Branch. The train used to have parlor cars, but they were discontinued after 1999 when they got C3 bi-levels. They then introduced a "Hamptons Reserve" thing in 2001 with some cars for reserved seating and complimentary bar service, but Hamptons Reserve ended in 2019. The referendum for the Tren Maya back in December 2019 only had around two percent (100,940 people voted) of over three million show up to vote as most didn't have the financial means to go vote (though with the train, they'll have another option for transport for things like voting). Besides voters only being shown the positives and the low turnout, the majority of voters were municipal employees. All of this was criticized by the UN Human Rights High Commissioner's Mexico office. That said, it's amazing that this region of Mexico now has consistent intercity train service! It takes less time than by bus, the Tren Maya has electric shuttle buses in Cancun, Puerto Morelos, and Playa del Carmen called Conexión Intermodal Tren Maya that links the stations with different attractions, locals pay lower fares than tourists, it's grade-separated, and like the Montauk Branch, having this revolutionary service benefits both tourists and locals alike, offering locals modern service, job creation, and more economic opportunity, thus improving the quality of life there. Residents of 130 localities directly affected by the railroad route will benefit from "388 worksites and social actions", including the rehabilitation of pavements and roads, public spaces, electrical, sanitary and productive infrastructures, and housing. Mexico bringing back its intercity passenger trains is absolutely a revolution! And a double-tracked railway, especially electrified, is very much better than a highway. Would people rather see a polluting highway in the jungle, or an electric train that can take many drivers off roads? For those judging it for being built too quickly, look at China's rail success! The Beijing-Tianjin HSR opened in 2008, and by the middle of 2024, the network reached 46,000 kilometers! Expanding so quickly across a big country like China has paid off big time. And in 2019, they opened the Beijing-Zhangjiakou HSR for the 2022 Winter Olympics, the world's first fully DRIVERLESS HSR, shortening the traveling time from Beijing to Zhangjiakou from 3 hours 7 minutes to 47 minutes
Thibault, Thanks for this! I love that Mexico has proven that these projects are not only possible in North America, but people will ride them if they are available.
This was 1500 km of high speed rail under the last administration. Under current President Sheinbaum, Mexico will add 3000 new km of rail be the end of her term in 2030.
NO es de alta velocidad. Para ser de alta velocidad requiere moverse s mad de 250 km/hora, que sea eléctrico, que su vía no se comparta con trenes de carga, no curvas tan pronunciadas, sin pasos a nivel. Además de que la construcción de vías y trenes debe ser de otra tecnologia, para soportar el estrés de la velocidad.
Mexico is putting the US and Canada to shame by building such an ambitious project in such a short time while we cannot build anything without decades of political struggle. This reminds me of when SNCF left CAHSR and went to Morocco because it was a "less politically dysfunctional state". I'm ashamed of the state of the political system here. We can't get anything done, and yet we think we're the best.
It's mostly republicans who want to impress their automobile and oil masters, they hate trains because they believe their outdated garbage is up-to-date
Get the hell out of here, you ignorant brainwashed NJB fanboy. Go back to your cynical doomer propaganda videos. We're all tired of you repeating the same old bitter angry crap everywhere. We need optimism.
@@crowmob-yo6ry stop generalising, and being prejudged. Just be honest and admit that americas rail projects take wayyy to long, and are wayyy to expensive. yes they make progress but dont ask how.
Not only Mexico. Never mind Europe, China, and Japan, successfully running the Shinkansen for many decades! Even Indonesia and Malaysia. The U.S. has too many freeways and airports. Can’t understand why we still don’t have bullet trains. It’s almost 2025!
I loved watching your video and seeing that this great project is appreciated by people outside of Mexico too! I have loved railroads as far as I can remember, and when I was 12 years old the mexican railroads were privatized and the passenger service dissapeared (aside from a couple of touristic rail lines). This broke my heart, and left me waiting for them to return for more than 25 years, which went by between failed politics and empty promises. Last weekend (November 2-3) I had the pleasure of travelling on the Tren Maya for the first time and I was utterly impressed by it. What I find even more wonderful is the fact that this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of Mexican railways. The mexican passenger trains are coming back and they are doing it with a bang! It would be amazing if you could also visit the "Tren Interoceánico". That one has a more classic flavor, and a wonderful landscape to watch.
Hi, oustanding video, extremely interesting, thank you. I'm sure you'll be back to see the exciting future development, especially the "P'atal" sleeper train. Regards Barry.
I’m very excited to see you cover my birth country of Mexico in your videos. I wish we did more of that here in the United States like New York. We could use more rail transport here to get people out of their cars.
The fact that fucking Mexico is accomplishing this before the US should be something that the US should be embarrassed about, given all their talk about how it's such a """shithole""" country...
Are you sure of this ? The line between Merida and Cancun is straight and the catenary is armed for higher speed than 160km/h ? That's what I read online anyway. So I'm curious :-)
@@SimplyRailway Yes, the Mayan train is designed to go at 250 kilometers per hour, even in some areas at 280 kilometers per hour, the catenary and tracks are high speed.
Great video as always. Right now it feels like so many countries are moving forward with train services, while here in Britain where railways began, we seem to be going backwards. Poor punctuality, high fares, overcrowding on peak-hour services and trains that are less and less comfortable with rock-hard seats. It’s not the way to get commuters and other travellers out of their comfortable, air-conditioned vehicles. I’d love you to come and try the long-distance Class 800 series bi-mode trains which have had so much criticism since their introduction, or the Class 700s with their ‘ironing board’ seats that are dreadfully uncomfortable.
Excelente Tren Maya uniendo toda la Península del Yucatán, moderno, cómodo, buena atención y precios razonables todo lo que busca el Turista extranjero y nacional 💪🇲🇽🌎
Loved the video. Enjoyed reading the subtitles with my almost closed eyes😅(it's 00:53 in the morning). I'll go and watch the Insurgente one. Btw, the critique on the use of plastics is very good and should be addressed promptly. I rode the FIT and notice the same😢 but this is the beginning of a bright future. Saludos 🙌🇲🇽
i loved the video. Thank you for sharing. I am very much in favour of rail projects as I love trains, train journeys and tren maya is far better for the environment than new road projects. The train looks so comfortable and excellent, new infrastructure and stations in place. The San Francisco de Campeche Station looked a nice station with good amenities. I like the rolling stock and the seats in both classes. I would like to visit the region one day and take a journey or two on Tren Maya. A huge benefit for the Yucatan Peninsula. I also like the fact that the staff clean the trains during journeys and that it is owned by the military who safeguard the passengers on board. Keep new rail projects going Mexico as the benefits pay off.
Honestly I'm surprised that the tamal didn't come in plastic wrapping! Mexico is *obsessed* with single use plastics, so it's no surprise there is a lot of it on the train too. Just be happy the coffee wasn't in a styrofoam cup or that the plates weren't plastic. It is already much less plastic than is the norm in Mexico!
Thanks for the correct “tamal” instead of “tamale” as he called it, he must have picked up the American mistake during his years in the States (this is obviously kind of an obsession with me😊.)
Thank you for your visit to the Mayan Train, Thibault. I hope that, soon, SEDENA (Mexican Armed Forces) will improve the details mentioned and that Alstom will finish all the trains that are built nationally in its plant in Ciudad Sahagún, state of Hidalgo. It is important to mention that President Sheinbaum plans to introduce a freight train in parallel and connect Tren Maya to the Tren Interoceánico, so the works will not stop for a while. PS. Many stations in cities such as Campeche, Cancún or Mérida could not reach the city centre because the local authorities blocked the permits, arguing locals displacement, road and environmental issues. To connect the stations of the Mayan Train with the urban centres, the government of Yucatán promoted the Va-y-Ven Tram, and the government of Campeche with SEDENA built a DRT to the Malecón. Have a great day!
Thanks for your comment :-) That's what I was wondering about the city centre stations. As I said in the video, if there's a transit project next to it, it's not an issue at all. I can't wait to come back in a few years in Mexico to see how Tren Maya changed the area
This is cool and when the project is complete it will help develope the towns,cities along the route and tourism to these area's which will help locals and the local economy
Prior to 1997 when most Mexican passenger service was suspended by Presidential order (except for the Copper Canyon train between Los Mochis & Chihuahua) there was passenger train service between Valladolid - Merida - Palenque - Veracruz - Mexico City. For the Tren Maya project, the old existing tracks & wood ties were pulled out and replaced with new tracks & concrete ties. So about 60% total of the new Tren Maya route was simply refurbishment of existing ROW.
@@MikeViker What was meant, was that only the "right of way" (ROW) was re-used, not the steel rails. Don't know for sure, but it's possible that the old rails were melted down and re-engineered to make the new "high grade steel" rails.
All the line is brand new, old rails were replaced, they were also given as a gift for Guatemala, bc Mexico and Guatemala have been talking about continuing the train to connect and start connecting Central America Also Mexican government has talked with Belize, to help improve economy, tourism, etc in the region
@@ovibiswas7849let's be honest but cars are inferior to trains, Republicans just want you to give your automobile and oil masters their money. I'm not surprised that the low IQ religious can't critically think
Stop generalising an entire country. Go back to your NJB propaganda videos if you want to ignore American rail projects getting built. Ever heard of Brightline West?
Looks good thibault glad you enjoyed your travel experience it’s putting to shame the people who think other countries are behind the times when in fact they are in front
Just did the Merida-Palenque-Merida trip last week, and saw how this project benefited transport of many small communities in southern Campeche and Tabasco (Candelaria, Triunfo, and Balancán área) on the last decade many people from those areas left for work to Cancún and Play del Carmen area, mainly in construction and services. I heard many examples of how this direct route to the Caribbean has benefited them, specially with the "local tariff" which offers a cheaper price for.people of the region.
No Brasil há um projeto similar chamado Trem Intercidades que a população vai ser atendida com trens similares a este. Acredito que antes de 2030 já esteja funcionando.
glad to see one og my favorite chanels doing reviews in my country!!! i am no the neutral side about this project, sadly when videos about Tren Maya appears, mexican left and right wing fans start to show up and have a debate (fight) in the comments
I hope Tren Maya is just the beginning of the return of passenger trains to all of Mexico and Latin America. I know there is and has been controversy, but when a new road is built, which happens almost every day in this part of the world, it is assumed to be "necessary", while a railway is always an "unnecessary luxury". Environmental damage is only discussed when building railway lines; it is simply accepted when building roads, because "they are necessary".
Unlike its northern neighbor Mexico has no passenger rail system. Other than tourist trains like El Chepe there is no intercity rail service between Mexico's largest cities so south of the border still has a helluva long way to go. Thanks for airing another great video.
Amtrak doesn't count as a system Mexico could do the same and put them on the freight lines like it used to be before 1997. This like is like going from New York to St Louis. Until you get dedicated passanger lines we can't take amtrak seriously.
@@TheAdrianFlo I take Amtrak very seriously despite unspeakable flaws. I am retired conductor 30 years on the road and now I am living the good life earning a serious pension which is more than most Americans earn.
During these six years under Claudia Mexico’s railroad lines will expand to connect almost all of Mexico. I’m assuming if Noroña wins he’ll continue the project by adding more lines. So watch for so much progress in the next twelve years and beyond in Mexico.
Train looks good from the inside, the thing you forget to mention is that stations are faaaar away from destinations, eg. If you were bound for Mérida it would costo you about a 3rd of the train ticket price for a taxi to get you to the city centre (there's no other option) meanwhile a bus could take you from downtown campeche to downtown merida for half the train cost at similar level of comfort. What I mean is government preferred express cpnstrution time over lomg term sustainably.... That will be an issue in the future, when another administration (in the Milei's form) inquiries about the train profitability
NECESARIO PINTAR CON ALUMINIO EL TECHO. Para reflejar el sol de CARROS CAJA. Para usar menos energía en refrigeradoras alimentadas por catenaria para trasportar alimentos.
Thank your for visiting our new train. Even though in general i'm in favor of the train, I can't help but think that they should've gone for a high speed from the beggining, because as you mentioned, it could go up to 250km/hr in the future, with new trains I assume, resulting in more spending. You said that they went big from the start, but what are your thoughts about this?
I don't think so. I live in Merida and would love to have HSR but I don't think it was the correct choice for Yucatan. Higher-Speed-Rail from 160-240 kph is the best choice. Mexico City has more people than the entire peninsula so the CDMX to Guadalajara train should be HSR... not the Tren Maya.
It will depend on the future demand. If there's people who needs an express service point to point without intermediate stops, it will be feasible a tilting train over 200km/h.
To me, it’s not an issue. Building a true high-speed rail would be incredibly expensive and would have been unaffordable for the people of Yucatán to use the Tren Maya. Here, they’re being smart by creating a large network connecting all the major cities, and they still have room for improvement. For example, if they see that the Mérida-Cancún route is successful, they could consider increasing the speed to 200 km/h or 250 km/h. I was born in a country where high-speed rail completely replaced regular trains, and I can tell you it mainly benefits city dwellers in places like Paris, leaving others reliant on cars. That’s not the path Mexico should take-they’re doing it just right.
With respect to larger suitcases, is there an additional fee ? Also, I noticed the open storage area for the larger suitcases, is there some type of security measure for the luggage in respect to theft from, or of the suitcases ?
CORRIENTE DEL GOLFO No es necesario quemar leña, ni carbón, o petróleo, para producir la energía necesaria para bombear el agua de mar .Con un sistema de turbinas acuáticas en torres submarinas para llegar a la corriente superficial ancladas enfrente de Tuxpan -Isla de Lobos- se podría usar la energía de la corriente conducida por cables hasta la Huasteca para producir la electricidad necesaria para el bombeo.
Considering the social opposition to project, I am not surprised it was given to the military since it could easily protect the project and long right of way. In terms of rapid build up, where there is a will, there is a way. Where there is no will, there are political promisess of large sums of money, but no disclosure that they only release $10/month over 833 years instead of releasing $100m in one year. Olympics tend to be the later, other project tend to be former. So looks like Mexico really wanted this done and released the money needed to get it done ASAP.
Strange to see such an investment managed by the ministry of defence! And I hope freighter trains are also planned, otherwise the "useless highway " will still be necessary.
Sympa ce train. Je suis curieux de voir ce que pourrais donner le P'atal, si la qualité perçue sur celui de la vidéo est identique. Merci pour la vidéo.
*Tren Maya - Playa Del Carmen, Puerto Morelos, Cancun - Mexico*. *Hay que verlo - Dentro de la naturaleza del bosque.* th-cam.com/video/St2i0D6aHDc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=dEhjsNcuNkF61ngZ
@@crowmob-yo6ry Brightline seems very promising, especially given that they kickstarted that from Florida of all places. I am not sure about leaving everything to corporations as per usual, but hopefully they push for more modern passenger transport in the near future. Their project out west from LA to Vegas might be the next best thing, at least for that region.
Novel because it isn’t normal - its under the guise of preventing corruption - increasing militarism in Mexico, even being handed over an airline, tourist boards and a National Guard under little public scrutiny
Being a Mexican, and supportive of rail, but also an ecologist by profession, I am torn on the Tren Maya project. On the one hand, the country needs good rail desperately, and it needs to improve connection between the population centers. It was very time-efficient in construction, and the current car-centric transport model from which it displaced traffic is outdated and much more polluting (which is a point that more conservative political voices in Mexico neglect to mention). However, the implementation of the train and construction might have been a bit too fast for environmental impact (so much forest and aquifer destruction), archeological impacts (near archeological sites and of artifacts on the right of way), but most importantly to the local communities, many of which were displaced without even being consulted for the project. The involvement of the military is also a hot topic, because while it might improve efficiency, it does not entirely remove corruption and can promote militarization (which we do not want). However, the main issue I take with the train is that there are so many more rail projects in Mexico that would make a ton of sense to have implemented and directed this amount of money and energy towards, especially around the center of the country, where the population densities and distances between cities are ideal for even high speed rail. But instead, this project (near the president's home state, by one of his estates, and somewhat aimed towards non-local tourism instead of for actual locals) is the one that got prioritized.
Te escribo en espan̈ol: La casa a donde vives! El agua que consumes! Los desechos que generas! Las carreteras por donde circulas con tu vehiculo! Etc, etc...eso tambien podria ser consideredo ecocidio el cual generas y te beneficias tù?
@alopezcaste7726 No lo es porque mi casa no fue construída sobre frágiles cenotes, limito el consumo de agua en mi hogar (a parte que la mayoría del consumo de agua en México no va a consumo doméstico sino agrícola), circulo lo menos posible con automóvil y no es un ecocidio que genero yo, ya que yo no fui a mandar poner la carretera ni el resto de la ciudad ni la infraestructura que ya estaba (a diferencia del ahora ex-presidente que casi decretó este proyecto). Los humanos necesitamos infraestructura y vivir en algún lado, es cierto, pero llamarle ecocidio de igual manera a toda actividad humana y la excusa de "todos hemos hecho algún ecocidio" para justificar este proyecto ignora las diferencias en impacto de diferentes proyectos e ignora todas las otras problemáticas que tiene este. Y justamente en mi comentario original menciono que mi problemática con el proyecto no es mayoritariamente el impacto ambiental (que sí es enorme y mucho peor de lo que debería ser, aunque reconocí ahí mismo que el transporte automotriz y las carreteras que ya estaban tienen ese impacto ambiental también). Para mí, es el impacto social y el que se haya priorizado sobre otros proyectos ferroviarios que tienen mucho más sentido.
To the NJB fanboys here: remember that the US has a MASSIVE rail network (it's even bigger if you count all the razed and removed tracks). The network connects areas making up probably 97% of the population. The only problem witth it is there is very little passenger service.
Can understand the time constraints, but I think the lack of downtown station will hurt it in the long term. Likely the reason train was empty where you started. Surprised to see open gangways on an old diesel train. The X'trapolis trais are ex-Alstom design, but assembled in Ciudad Sahagún which is an ex-Bombardier plant, the very plant that costed Bombardier Transportion millions in losses because it didn't have suffucient quality controls and delivered poor quality products late. So I am curious how quickly/easily Alstom got the plant to make quality rolling stock built on time. (this may point to previous problems being Bombardier management problems due to cost cutting needed to pay for its folly of developping 3 new airplanes at same time). BTW, one of the original press releases: "The X'trapolisTM is Alstom's electric train that will have a unique and exclusive design for Mexico." No mention of diesel. So I get the impression that the original order was to be electric and they switched at some point to diesels since electric inftastructure wouldn't be ready. And if Alstom was able to update production line and stil deliver reliable trains on time , then this would be quite an achievement.
But if you've been to Campeche, Mérida, or other cities along the route, how can you enter these cities without disrupting blocks of houses? Alternatively, you could go underground, but that would be costly, and the ground on the peninsula isn’t ideal for tunneling. I don’t mind an outside station as long as there’s a transit project integrated nearby. Mérida and Campeche are doing this, and it’s looking outstanding so far. I agree it’s a shame about the diesel version of the X'trapolis, but if you look closely at the train’s roof in the drone footage, you can see an area for the pantograph and space for all the electrical equipment needed to make it an EMU. Switching to a full EMU setup should be easy if they decide to go that route.
@josephrodriguez5510 Bro can you do me a favor it's a humble request if you can send one piece of Mexican coke by post for me i will be very great full to you.
We Mexicans are proud of this big project in the Mayan Riviera ❤ we love our Tren Maya thanks for the report! ✨
yea proud of the fares?? fucking daylight robbery 124 dollar for this SHIT???? high speed services cost lesser than that in many places.....
It is a shameful piece of crap. Nobody is using it. It is a giant monument to AMLO's ego. It will be gone in five years.
Controversy aside, it's just so frustrating how way too many politicians in the USA and Canada and their supporters would rather waste billions on useless highway expansions than even consider building new passenger rail projects as huge as Tren Maya.
EXACTLY! And their constituents ride along with them and then sit in traffic for hours in their daily commutes.
Because they are listening to their constituents. No one wants to sit on a train for hours and hours.
This. It is proof that it CAN be done, and if you build it they will ride it!
Brightline is slowly changing this stigma. They had over 2 million passengers on the Florida line in 2023. The ridership continues to grow and this year has already reached 2 million passengers at the end of September. Also, if the election goes normally, they'll have a chance to build and operate a line from the outskirts of LA to Vegas by the end of the decade.
@@draveedreal trains between viable points don’t take hours and hours. dallas and houston would be about 90 mins dtown to dtown.
That train looks very comfortable!! Great job!
After the Dia de los Muertos here comes Tren Maya
And yet miss PATAL And Janal
Sleeper train and restaurant
maar wel heel dure kaartjes en zeker voor een land als dat
Mexico seriously getting better trains than most of the U.S. and Canada 😭
We just purchased 8 US metrolink old locomotives for another train so....
@@josephrodriguez5510 yes to start operating the isthmus train immediately, however there are plans to buy new trains in the near future.
@@josephrodriguez5510 is just for a short time, because this locomotives is just for use until the new CAF trains finish his construction in 3 years
Caltrain got some excellent Stadler KISS trains recently…
Everybody…let’s move to Mexico after the U.S. election 😤😤😤…I don’t care who wins..both are terrible people..and it’ll be another 4 years of problems, people bitching about the policies and more problems..it’s a cycle. Mexico looks very good for new investments.
Espectacular. Arriba México !! saludos a los hermanos Mexicanos desde Chile.
Saludos desde México…al país de mi madre chilena.
So Mexico had a referendum and decided to build a railway, which they opened within four years.
Meanwhile, in the UK...
Don't be so critical. You in the UK also had a referendum. At least that part works too. 🙃
Meanwhile, you can get almost anywere in the UK in train, we only have a few trains
@@Dqtube Yup, we voted to destroy our economy and our freedom to trade, travel and work in the largest trading area in the world. Meanwhile, we have spent ten years listening to idiots moaning about a few miles of railway, the stub end of which that will now actually be completed has been rendered useless by a corrupt government desperately trying unsuccessfully to cling to power.
I think there is room for criticism to be honest 😀
I think Mexico has done far better!
I am mexican, and no,we are still a 3rd world shithole. I wish i were english. @@conradharcourt8263
a referendum with 2% turnout, and UN observers criticizing the government’s incredibly dodgy half-assed consultation of Indigenous assemblies and the running of this vote for a line owned by the military - yes a world model lol...
Nice concha! Conchas are said to be introduced to Mexico by French bakers. It is also believed that the idea came from a nobleman that dipped a piece of bread into some hot chocolate in front of many people and told them they should do it too. It's similar to Hong Kong's pineapple bun, which was inspired by the concha by scoring the sweet bread to look similar to a pineapple skin. Mexicans leave conchas as part of the offerings in an ofrenda during Día de los Muertos. Love the jaguar symbolism of the Tren Maya! In Mesoamerican communities, jaguars were one of the most revered animals. Every major Mesoamerican civilization had a jaguar god, many of which were important parts of their religion. These communities viewed jaguars as symbols of strength and power. For example, the Aztecs called the jaguar ocelotl and considered it to be the king of the animals. They named their most elite warriors “cuāuhocēlōtl”, a combination of the Aztec words for eagle and jaguar. They wore costumes that made them resemble these majestic cats and lead their communities both on the battlefield and at home. In Aztec culture, many believed that shamans could transform into jaguars at will and would become jaguars after they died. In the Maya civilization, the jaguar was known as balam or bolom' in many of the Mayan languages, and was used to symbolize warriors and the elite class for being brave, fierce and strong. The cat was associated with the underworld and its image was used to decorate tombs and grave-good vessels.
Jaguar comes from the Tupi-Guarani word yaguara meaning "wild beast that overcomes its prey at a bound". It is the biggest cat species in the Americas and the third largest in the world. Relative to their size, they have the strongest bite of the cat kingdom. The jaguar's powerful bite allows it to pierce the carapaces of turtles and tortoises, and to employ an unusual killing method, it bites directly through the skull of mammalian prey between the ears to deliver a fatal blow to the brain. It kills capybara by piercing its canine teeth through the temporal bones of its skull, breaking its zygomatic arch and mandible and penetrating its brain, often through the ears. While a jaguar’s bite force is only three-quarters as strong as a tiger’s bite force, jaguars have the stronger bites since they are considerably smaller (up to 170 cm long, not including their tails, which can grow up to 80 cm). Jaguars can’t quite reach the 70 miles per hour of the cheetah, but they reach a very respectable 50 mph. This makes them the second-fastest big cats in the world. Jaguars are excellent swimmers. Jaguars are excellent swimmers. They can hold their breath for as long as 15 to 20 minutes, and researchers have reported that the jaguars can hold their breath for as long as 1 hour approximately. They have adapted to living in wet environments, and hunt aquatic or semi-aquatic creatures like fish, turtles, caimans, and capybaras. They also hunt for deer, birds, opossums, and armadillos.
Y ya te crees frances solo porque comes conchas
Thank you, glorious and supreme leader Kim Jong Un
No Mamés esa historia ya la conocemos todos sigue estudiando para que aprendas más
C'est vraiment impressionnant cette infrastructure réalisée en si peu de temps ! Super reportage Thibault. Je suis vraiment content pour le Mexique, un pays qui va de l'avant avec la construction d'infrastructures durables et de qualité et qui prend les moyens pour éviter que la corruption ne vienne nuire a ce genre de projets. En plus, ça devrait aider à ce que les touristes des stations balnéaires aillent dépenser un peu leur argent à l'intérieur des terres et ainsi mieux distribuer cette manne. En espérant que ça va secouer un peu le Canada et les États-Unis... car disons le, notre transport ferroviaire au Canada est le pire de tout le G7. Dire qu'en 20 ans, la Chine à construit 46 000 km de LGV et que les É-U en arrachent avec leur projet californien de seulement 700 km qui ne sera pas en fonction avant 2035...
Or more likely: not until maybe 2050 for the LA to SF CAHSR route to begin operating, considering all of the planned tunneling that has not even begun the digging operations yet.
Video muito bom simplys bonito trem do México
That is an awesome looking train thanks.🚂🚃🚃🇺🇲
¡Excelente!, si efectivamente sorprendentemente rápido en solo 3 años para la primera etapa. Gracia muy interesante.
Thank you very much for uploading this video, finally a review channel that was able to upload this travel experience on the Mayan Train, I couldn't find any because they are all from Politics talking about how good and bad it is (pure politics) and finally, a review perfect from this trip. I'm from Mexico but I don't live in that region of the country, so thank you very much for coming to this country and I hope you loved it.
I think Tren Maya is a system that makes Mexico proud. This railroad is a major step forward but it makes me mad when neither party has the balls to build a system. Our highways are way too crowded and a decent rail system is a serious step towards putting the US on rails again.
There are numerous American passenger rail projects in the works, but the evil NJB won't talk about them and neither will his fanboys invading this video.
If only the US and Canada could make that kind of progress on passenger rail expansions.
They are. Ever heard of Brightline West? It's under construction. Oh wait, your idol NJB never talks about anything positive.
@@crowmob-yo6ry i see you comment on everything that is critical of US and canada rail projects. Your feelings must be hurt. Stop being judgemental, and let it go. Hollow barrels sound the loudest
@@lexburen5932 man he is just stating the truth and look it up Brightline West for the Olmypics in 2028 as well as the High Speed California Rail. Not to mentioned the talk discussions between Dallas and Houston hoping one day it will be a dream!
Excellent! You will must to come back again when PATAL is in service! And make a long travel
Great video 👍🏻
Oh hell yeah I will :-)
As part of the project, hotels, museums, and ecotourism parks were also built. Once the passenger line is finished, the tracks will be opened for freight transport (as well as a small expansion to a port).
Also, Alstom has a train construction plant in Mexico.
I'm glad you got to the Train system down there! I am surprised it was the Military that financed this. A Remarkable Achievement!
Mexico has a lot of those who own cars, but they see the idea of transporting people long distance and competing with Low cost Jets work better here. I also noticed many got on and off the local areas, plus the Tourists at Chichen-Itza!
The military did not finance the project, the project was financed by the federal government, the military only built some sections of the line
@@TrenesytransportesGDL Thanks for the clarification.
Gracias por tu experiencia de viaje en los dos trenes y las reseñas sobre tu punto de vista en mi pais , te falta que tengas experiencia en el TREN INTEROCEÁNICO
Hi Friend, I loved your video about the Mayan Train, I also remind you that the interoceanic train is a more modest line than the Insurgente or the Mayan Train, but it is really worth it since HST trains from the UK run on that route.
Mexico just approved 8 lines across the country
I really enjoy your videos and subtitles. I do have feedback on the subtitles, when watching on a smaller screen the amount of subtitles hide half of the video. Maybe you can have one sentence at a time.
Noted ;-)
The train goes around the entire Yucatan peninsula which is about the same size of Great Britain.
Nice, thanks. I hope United States of Mexico can begin teaching Spanish in order to communicate with their neighbors to the south.
Just to make sure we got this right .....the TREN MAYA has a length of 1554 km that covers the the states of Yucatan. Chiapas , Campeche , Quintana Roo and Tabasco ............ the island of Gret Britain where Ingland is located has 1100 km in length and 500 km in width !!
It is not complete and much of it is barely functioning.
@@federicotietz2929 Falta el último tramo, pero lo demás funciona muy bien y ofrece un servicio de calidad. Se espera que este año se complete el servicio de pasajeros y se comience a introducir el servicio de carga, lo que hará de Mérida un polo de desarrollo industrial (aunque de por sí ya tiene bastante industria)
Latin America is often overlooked in the transit community but has just as interesting transit as the rest of the world, like the Mi Teleférico gondola system in La Paz, Valparaíso's many funiculars, Panama Metro, Hershey Electric Railway interurban in Cuba (fun fact: Cuba was the very first Hispanic country to get trains in 1837; Spain itself wouldn't until 1848), or Buenos Aires's Subte! As you saw on the front of the trains, it says "Tsíimin K'áak". This is the Yucatec Maya word for train. Tsíimin means horse, and K'áak means fire, so literally translated, the train is a fire horse (or a Rapidash lol)! This translation makes sense considering the steam trains that historically ran there. As mentioned, Xiinbal means "to walk". For the other types, Janal means "to eat", and P'atal means "to stay". I know people will complain the stations are outside the cities, but this was done to avoid major construction complications and disruption to existing urban infrastructure. This tourist intercity train approach reminds me of the LIRR's Montauk Branch. The Montauk Branch provides year-round service for the locals of LI's South Shore and South Fork, but during the summer, it's pretty much a tourist train for those partying in the Hamptons, visiting the famous Montauk Point Lighthouse, or heading out to Fire Island by ferry (Fire Island communities are mainly car-free and isolated; ferries are a lifeline). The Cannonball provides express weekend summer service to the Hamptons, originating in 1899 between Long Island City and Montauk or Greenport via the Main Line (the consist heading to Greenport split off from the Montauk-bound consist at Manorville; track no longer exists between Manorville and the Montauk Branch), before service from NY Penn Station in Manhattan began in 1911. In 1934, the train permanently adopted its present-day route, a single train from Penn Station to Montauk along the Montauk Branch. The train used to have parlor cars, but they were discontinued after 1999 when they got C3 bi-levels. They then introduced a "Hamptons Reserve" thing in 2001 with some cars for reserved seating and complimentary bar service, but Hamptons Reserve ended in 2019.
The referendum for the Tren Maya back in December 2019 only had around two percent (100,940 people voted) of over three million show up to vote as most didn't have the financial means to go vote (though with the train, they'll have another option for transport for things like voting). Besides voters only being shown the positives and the low turnout, the majority of voters were municipal employees. All of this was criticized by the UN Human Rights High Commissioner's Mexico office. That said, it's amazing that this region of Mexico now has consistent intercity train service! It takes less time than by bus, the Tren Maya has electric shuttle buses in Cancun, Puerto Morelos, and Playa del Carmen called Conexión Intermodal Tren Maya that links the stations with different attractions, locals pay lower fares than tourists, it's grade-separated, and like the Montauk Branch, having this revolutionary service benefits both tourists and locals alike, offering locals modern service, job creation, and more economic opportunity, thus improving the quality of life there. Residents of 130 localities directly affected by the railroad route will benefit from "388 worksites and social actions", including the rehabilitation of pavements and roads, public spaces, electrical, sanitary and productive infrastructures, and housing. Mexico bringing back its intercity passenger trains is absolutely a revolution! And a double-tracked railway, especially electrified, is very much better than a highway. Would people rather see a polluting highway in the jungle, or an electric train that can take many drivers off roads? For those judging it for being built too quickly, look at China's rail success! The Beijing-Tianjin HSR opened in 2008, and by the middle of 2024, the network reached 46,000 kilometers! Expanding so quickly across a big country like China has paid off big time. And in 2019, they opened the Beijing-Zhangjiakou HSR for the 2022 Winter Olympics, the world's first fully DRIVERLESS HSR, shortening the traveling time from Beijing to Zhangjiakou from 3 hours 7 minutes to 47 minutes
Good Montauk branch comment. Fire Island is also nice in the cold weather.
Thibault, Thanks for this!
I love that Mexico has proven that these projects are not only possible in North America, but people will ride them if they are available.
México is North America....
Mexico is in norte america
@@alejandroornelas8163 yeah, why I said what I said...
This was 1500 km of high speed rail under the last administration. Under current President Sheinbaum, Mexico will add 3000 new km of rail be the end of her term in 2030.
High speed? Are you from America?!!
NO es de alta velocidad.
Para ser de alta velocidad requiere moverse s mad de 250 km/hora, que sea eléctrico, que su vía no se comparta con trenes de carga, no curvas tan pronunciadas, sin pasos a nivel.
Además de que la construcción de vías y trenes debe ser de otra tecnologia, para soportar el estrés de la velocidad.
Mexico is putting the US and Canada to shame by building such an ambitious project in such a short time while we cannot build anything without decades of political struggle. This reminds me of when SNCF left CAHSR and went to Morocco because it was a "less politically dysfunctional state". I'm ashamed of the state of the political system here. We can't get anything done, and yet we think we're the best.
It's mostly republicans who want to impress their automobile and oil masters, they hate trains because they believe their outdated garbage is up-to-date
Get the hell out of here, you ignorant brainwashed NJB fanboy. Go back to your cynical doomer propaganda videos. We're all tired of you repeating the same old bitter angry crap everywhere. We need optimism.
The USA and Canada are making progress. You just won't hear about it from your idol NJB.
@@crowmob-yo6ry stop generalising, and being prejudged. Just be honest and admit that americas rail projects take wayyy to long, and are wayyy to expensive. yes they make progress but dont ask how.
Not only Mexico. Never mind Europe, China, and Japan, successfully running the Shinkansen for many decades! Even Indonesia and Malaysia. The U.S. has too many freeways and airports. Can’t understand why we still don’t have bullet trains. It’s almost 2025!
I loved watching your video and seeing that this great project is appreciated by people outside of Mexico too!
I have loved railroads as far as I can remember, and when I was 12 years old the mexican railroads were privatized and the passenger service dissapeared (aside from a couple of touristic rail lines). This broke my heart, and left me waiting for them to return for more than 25 years, which went by between failed politics and empty promises.
Last weekend (November 2-3) I had the pleasure of travelling on the Tren Maya for the first time and I was utterly impressed by it. What I find even more wonderful is the fact that this is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of Mexican railways. The mexican passenger trains are coming back and they are doing it with a bang!
It would be amazing if you could also visit the "Tren Interoceánico". That one has a more classic flavor, and a wonderful landscape to watch.
Très bonne video
que trem lindo! EU quero um dia viajar num destes aqui na America Latina! A estação de trem também é um espetáculo a parte!
Hi, oustanding video, extremely interesting, thank you. I'm sure you'll be back to see the exciting future development, especially the "P'atal" sleeper train. Regards Barry.
Great system. Mexico needs rail. Thanks Thibault. 😀👍👌
I’m very excited to see you cover my birth country of Mexico in your videos. I wish we did more of that here in the United States like New York. We could use more rail transport here to get people out of their cars.
There are US cities making good progress, but your idol NJB will never tell you that.
Beautiful
Mexico needs more trains and less car accidents
And yes, this line is ready for high speed trains up to 250km/h already! 🚄🚄🚄🚄🚄✨
The fact that fucking Mexico is accomplishing this before the US should be something that the US should be embarrassed about, given all their talk about how it's such a """shithole""" country...
Are you sure of this ? The line between Merida and Cancun is straight and the catenary is armed for higher speed than 160km/h ? That's what I read online anyway. So I'm curious :-)
@@SimplyRailway Yes, the Mayan train is designed to go at 250 kilometers per hour, even in some areas at 280 kilometers per hour, the catenary and tracks are high speed.
@@TrenesytransportesGDL Oh geez, that's wonderful
Great video as always. Right now it feels like so many countries are moving forward with train services, while here in Britain where railways began, we seem to be going backwards. Poor punctuality, high fares, overcrowding on peak-hour services and trains that are less and less comfortable with rock-hard seats. It’s not the way to get commuters and other travellers out of their comfortable, air-conditioned vehicles. I’d love you to come and try the long-distance Class 800 series bi-mode trains which have had so much criticism since their introduction, or the Class 700s with their ‘ironing board’ seats that are dreadfully uncomfortable.
Did you notice it? the catenary posts are the same like in the high speed rail in Spain and Saudi Arabia! - The EAC350!
They are and the catenary itself, the rails, the concrete tiles, everything is high speed rail class.
Excelente Tren Maya uniendo toda la Península del Yucatán, moderno, cómodo, buena atención y precios razonables todo lo que busca el Turista extranjero y nacional 💪🇲🇽🌎
Loved the video. Enjoyed reading the subtitles with my almost closed eyes😅(it's 00:53 in the morning). I'll go and watch the Insurgente one. Btw, the critique on the use of plastics is very good and should be addressed promptly. I rode the FIT and notice the same😢 but this is the beginning of a bright future. Saludos 🙌🇲🇽
i loved the video. Thank you for sharing. I am very much in favour of rail projects as I love trains, train journeys and tren maya is far better for the environment than new road projects. The train looks so comfortable and excellent, new infrastructure and stations in place. The San Francisco de Campeche Station looked a nice station with good amenities. I like the rolling stock and the seats in both classes. I would like to visit the region one day and take a journey or two on Tren Maya. A huge benefit for the Yucatan Peninsula. I also like the fact that the staff clean the trains during journeys and that it is owned by the military who safeguard the passengers on board. Keep new rail projects going Mexico as the benefits pay off.
Honestly I'm surprised that the tamal didn't come in plastic wrapping! Mexico is *obsessed* with single use plastics, so it's no surprise there is a lot of it on the train too. Just be happy the coffee wasn't in a styrofoam cup or that the plates weren't plastic. It is already much less plastic than is the norm in Mexico!
Thanks for the correct “tamal” instead of “tamale” as he called it, he must have picked up the American mistake during his years in the States (this is obviously kind of an obsession with me😊.)
Thats not true at all, Mexico started to restrict the use of plastic many years before first world countries like Japan or USA.
Thank you for your visit to the Mayan Train, Thibault.
I hope that, soon, SEDENA (Mexican Armed Forces) will improve the details mentioned and that Alstom will finish all the trains that are built nationally in its plant in Ciudad Sahagún, state of Hidalgo.
It is important to mention that President Sheinbaum plans to introduce a freight train in parallel and connect Tren Maya to the Tren Interoceánico, so the works will not stop for a while.
PS. Many stations in cities such as Campeche, Cancún or Mérida could not reach the city centre because the local authorities blocked the permits, arguing locals displacement, road and environmental issues. To connect the stations of the Mayan Train with the urban centres, the government of Yucatán promoted the Va-y-Ven Tram, and the government of Campeche with SEDENA built a DRT to the Malecón.
Have a great day!
Thanks for your comment :-)
That's what I was wondering about the city centre stations. As I said in the video, if there's a transit project next to it, it's not an issue at all.
I can't wait to come back in a few years in Mexico to see how Tren Maya changed the area
@@SimplyRailway Totally agree. It will always be a pleasure to receive you in México, esta es tu casa.
Thank you for this great tour.
Love the tren maya!
This is cool and when the project is complete it will help develope the towns,cities along the route and tourism to these area's which will help locals and the local economy
Thanks!
Prior to 1997 when most Mexican passenger service was suspended by Presidential order (except for the Copper Canyon train between Los Mochis & Chihuahua) there was passenger train service between Valladolid - Merida - Palenque - Veracruz - Mexico City. For the Tren Maya project, the old existing tracks & wood ties were pulled out and replaced with new tracks & concrete ties. So about 60% total of the new Tren Maya route was simply refurbishment of existing ROW.
Bs, it's all brand new with high grade steel and soldering capable of 250km/h
@@MikeViker What was meant, was that only the "right of way" (ROW) was re-used, not the steel rails. Don't know for sure, but it's possible that the old rails were melted down and re-engineered to make the new "high grade steel" rails.
@@RVail623you dont know shit
All the line is brand new, old rails were replaced, they were also given as a gift for Guatemala, bc Mexico and Guatemala have been talking about continuing the train to connect and start connecting Central America
Also Mexican government has talked with Belize, to help improve economy, tourism, etc in the region
Texas to Mexico High-Speed Rail plan should be a good one 😮
Great trip. Looks like few of TH-camrs trying this train recently.
Cries in the United States
Nobody is crying in the usa . Its you who is crying 😂
@ovibiswas7849 ratio
@@ovibiswas7849let's be honest but cars are inferior to trains, Republicans just want you to give your automobile and oil masters their money. I'm not surprised that the low IQ religious can't critically think
Stop generalising an entire country. Go back to your NJB propaganda videos if you want to ignore American rail projects getting built. Ever heard of Brightline West?
@crowmob-yo6ry lets get one thing straight I hate notjustbikes I find him insufferable.
Claudia scientist engineer said building trains around mexico. 3000 miles electric trains
Looks good thibault glad you enjoyed your travel experience it’s putting to shame the people who think other countries are behind the times when in fact they are in front
Just did the Merida-Palenque-Merida trip last week, and saw how this project benefited transport of many small communities in southern Campeche and Tabasco (Candelaria, Triunfo, and Balancán área) on the last decade many people from those areas left for work to Cancún and Play del Carmen area, mainly in construction and services. I heard many examples of how this direct route to the Caribbean has benefited them, specially with the "local tariff" which offers a cheaper price for.people of the region.
Beautiful train, we need one Canada / USA / Mexico
Agreed!
Really Nice and they should electrify this route
700km will be fully electrified.
Usually, Alstom trains are so ugly....but this one is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Good job Alstom 👏
No Brasil há um projeto similar chamado Trem Intercidades que a população vai ser atendida com trens similares a este. Acredito que antes de 2030 já esteja funcionando.
Mexico has an excellent bus network too!
Great video
glad to see one og my favorite chanels doing reviews in my country!!! i am no the neutral side about this project, sadly when videos about Tren Maya appears, mexican left and right wing fans start to show up and have a debate (fight) in the comments
Viva el tren Maya 👌 y viva México 🇲🇽💪
I hope Tren Maya is just the beginning of the return of passenger trains to all of Mexico and Latin America. I know there is and has been controversy, but when a new road is built, which happens almost every day in this part of the world, it is assumed to be "necessary", while a railway is always an "unnecessary luxury". Environmental damage is only discussed when building railway lines; it is simply accepted when building roads, because "they are necessary".
Viva Mexico!!
Great video! Although you need to split the captions in smaller fragments, because it's covering all of the video on small screens.
1550 kms...biggest rail proyect in development today. +25 billion dollars and proudly "Hecho en México"😊
Unlike its northern neighbor Mexico has no passenger rail system. Other than tourist trains like El Chepe there is no intercity rail service between Mexico's largest cities so south of the border still has a helluva long way to go. Thanks for airing another great video.
Amtrak doesn't count as a system Mexico could do the same and put them on the freight lines like it used to be before 1997. This like is like going from New York to St Louis. Until you get dedicated passanger lines we can't take amtrak seriously.
They are planning on doing it though. Mexican governement is putting a priority on rail
@@TheAdrianFlo I take Amtrak very seriously despite unspeakable flaws. I am retired conductor 30 years on the road and now I am living the good life earning a serious pension which is more than most Americans earn.
During these six years under Claudia Mexico’s railroad lines will expand to connect almost all of Mexico. I’m assuming if Noroña wins he’ll continue the project by adding more lines. So watch for so much progress in the next twelve years and beyond in Mexico.
Mexico city and Toluca recently finish a train that conects that Two cities
Train looks good from the inside, the thing you forget to mention is that stations are faaaar away from destinations, eg. If you were bound for Mérida it would costo you about a 3rd of the train ticket price for a taxi to get you to the city centre (there's no other option) meanwhile a bus could take you from downtown campeche to downtown merida for half the train cost at similar level of comfort. What I mean is government preferred express cpnstrution time over lomg term sustainably.... That will be an issue in the future, when another administration (in the Milei's form) inquiries about the train profitability
locals and the media complained about building the stations downtown.
you need to get one of those window suction mounts
NECESARIO PINTAR CON ALUMINIO EL TECHO.
Para reflejar el sol de CARROS CAJA. Para usar menos energía en refrigeradoras alimentadas por catenaria para trasportar alimentos.
Thank your for visiting our new train. Even though in general i'm in favor of the train, I can't help but think that they should've gone for a high speed from the beggining, because as you mentioned, it could go up to 250km/hr in the future, with new trains I assume, resulting in more spending.
You said that they went big from the start, but what are your thoughts about this?
I don't think so. I live in Merida and would love to have HSR but I don't think it was the correct choice for Yucatan. Higher-Speed-Rail from 160-240 kph is the best choice. Mexico City has more people than the entire peninsula so the CDMX to Guadalajara train should be HSR... not the Tren Maya.
The yucatan penisula is not that populated like the center of mexico.
@@GrantMcWilliams Yet the CDMX-Gdl is expected to be 160km/hr max as well! They are currently doing the studies, so I hope they change that
It will depend on the future demand. If there's people who needs an express service point to point without intermediate stops, it will be feasible a tilting train over 200km/h.
To me, it’s not an issue. Building a true high-speed rail would be incredibly expensive and would have been unaffordable for the people of Yucatán to use the Tren Maya. Here, they’re being smart by creating a large network connecting all the major cities, and they still have room for improvement. For example, if they see that the Mérida-Cancún route is successful, they could consider increasing the speed to 200 km/h or 250 km/h.
I was born in a country where high-speed rail completely replaced regular trains, and I can tell you it mainly benefits city dwellers in places like Paris, leaving others reliant on cars. That’s not the path Mexico should take-they’re doing it just right.
Seeing those seats, they look very similar to the models used on ICE 4 trains in Germany… how would you say do they compare?
Way better padding that's for sure!
With respect to larger suitcases, is there an additional fee ? Also, I noticed the open storage area for the larger suitcases, is there some type of security measure for the luggage in respect to theft from, or of the suitcases ?
There's no additional fee for luggage. As for the safety onboard, you shouldn't be worried as there's a lot of guarda nacional.
CORRIENTE DEL GOLFO
No es necesario quemar leña, ni carbón, o petróleo, para producir la energía necesaria para bombear el agua de mar .Con un sistema de turbinas acuáticas en torres submarinas para llegar a la corriente superficial ancladas enfrente de Tuxpan -Isla de Lobos- se podría usar la energía de la corriente conducida por cables hasta la Huasteca para producir la electricidad necesaria para el bombeo.
Considering the social opposition to project, I am not surprised it was given to the military since it could easily protect the project and long right of way. In terms of rapid build up, where there is a will, there is a way. Where there is no will, there are political promisess of large sums of money, but no disclosure that they only release $10/month over 833 years instead of releasing $100m in one year. Olympics tend to be the later, other project tend to be former. So looks like Mexico really wanted this done and released the money needed to get it done ASAP.
Strange to see such an investment managed by the ministry of defence!
And I hope freighter trains are also planned, otherwise the "useless highway " will still be necessary.
Sympa ce train. Je suis curieux de voir ce que pourrais donner le P'atal, si la qualité perçue sur celui de la vidéo est identique. Merci pour la vidéo.
Je suis aussi super impatient pour le P'atal !
For the longer route trains I would have taken the longer distance train but I am not sure if they are already going.
*Tren Maya - Playa Del Carmen, Puerto Morelos, Cancun - Mexico*.
*Hay que verlo - Dentro de la naturaleza del bosque.*
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Will you take a tour of the interceanic train section on the amfleet amtrak or HTS intercity?
It looks like they're planning on electrifying the Tren Maya
Is just the beginning
Hopefully they double track it in the future
Beautiful try Tanzanian EMU new electric SGR as well 🎉
What are we doing America?
Letting shitty people control everything.
Brightline West. Look it up.
@@crowmob-yo6ry Brightline seems very promising, especially given that they kickstarted that from Florida of all places. I am not sure about leaving everything to corporations as per usual, but hopefully they push for more modern passenger transport in the near future. Their project out west from LA to Vegas might be the next best thing, at least for that region.
Will the long distance trains (first delivered in September) provide service from Mexico City? or still only within the Tren Maya infrastructure?
Just within the train maya. They're gonna start buildibg MexicoCity-queretaro- guadalajara next year. They're doing the studies right now.
And from Querétaro It Will split to the north and for thru San Luis Potosí - saltillo -monterrey-laredol
I'm not sure, but I hope they will, the long distance unit are bi mode so they can technically runs all the way to CDMX
Mas de 100 dolares por 469 km estoy asombrado esos precios no sabia que eran asi de caro subir.
The food wrapped in plastic was very "un-Mexican" but otherwise, it looks like a good trip.
Hey thibault how was the tren maya
Regardless, I really like the livery on this train.
El tamaño de esos panecillos es obsceno.
Sides, there's plenty of space in the interior of the US to build or rebuild existing mainlines to a similar standards.
Novel approach having the train run by armed forces.
Novel because it isn’t normal - its under the guise of preventing corruption - increasing militarism in Mexico, even being handed over an airline, tourist boards and a National Guard under little public scrutiny
Look like vande bharat train❤❤❤❤
Being a Mexican, and supportive of rail, but also an ecologist by profession, I am torn on the Tren Maya project. On the one hand, the country needs good rail desperately, and it needs to improve connection between the population centers. It was very time-efficient in construction, and the current car-centric transport model from which it displaced traffic is outdated and much more polluting (which is a point that more conservative political voices in Mexico neglect to mention).
However, the implementation of the train and construction might have been a bit too fast for environmental impact (so much forest and aquifer destruction), archeological impacts (near archeological sites and of artifacts on the right of way), but most importantly to the local communities, many of which were displaced without even being consulted for the project. The involvement of the military is also a hot topic, because while it might improve efficiency, it does not entirely remove corruption and can promote militarization (which we do not want).
However, the main issue I take with the train is that there are so many more rail projects in Mexico that would make a ton of sense to have implemented and directed this amount of money and energy towards, especially around the center of the country, where the population densities and distances between cities are ideal for even high speed rail. But instead, this project (near the president's home state, by one of his estates, and somewhat aimed towards non-local tourism instead of for actual locals) is the one that got prioritized.
Te escribo en espan̈ol:
La casa a donde vives! El agua que consumes! Los desechos que generas! Las carreteras por donde circulas con tu vehiculo! Etc, etc...eso tambien podria ser consideredo ecocidio el cual generas y te beneficias tù?
@alopezcaste7726 No lo es porque mi casa no fue construída sobre frágiles cenotes, limito el consumo de agua en mi hogar (a parte que la mayoría del consumo de agua en México no va a consumo doméstico sino agrícola), circulo lo menos posible con automóvil y no es un ecocidio que genero yo, ya que yo no fui a mandar poner la carretera ni el resto de la ciudad ni la infraestructura que ya estaba (a diferencia del ahora ex-presidente que casi decretó este proyecto). Los humanos necesitamos infraestructura y vivir en algún lado, es cierto, pero llamarle ecocidio de igual manera a toda actividad humana y la excusa de "todos hemos hecho algún ecocidio" para justificar este proyecto ignora las diferencias en impacto de diferentes proyectos e ignora todas las otras problemáticas que tiene este.
Y justamente en mi comentario original menciono que mi problemática con el proyecto no es mayoritariamente el impacto ambiental (que sí es enorme y mucho peor de lo que debería ser, aunque reconocí ahí mismo que el transporte automotriz y las carreteras que ya estaban tienen ese impacto ambiental también). Para mí, es el impacto social y el que se haya priorizado sobre otros proyectos ferroviarios que tienen mucho más sentido.
To the NJB fanboys here: remember that the US has a MASSIVE rail network (it's even bigger if you count all the razed and removed tracks). The network connects areas making up probably 97% of the population.
The only problem witth it is there is very little passenger service.
What is NJB? I find many comments talk about it. 😮
@@danielbarreto1973 th-cam.com/users/notjustbikes
Well, that's what you get when you push people to drive everywhere ;-)
@@danielbarreto1973 a youtube channel called Not Just Bikes. A little too radical for my liking but raises some good points
Can understand the time constraints, but I think the lack of downtown station will hurt it in the long term. Likely the reason train was empty where you started.
Surprised to see open gangways on an old diesel train. The X'trapolis trais are ex-Alstom design, but assembled in Ciudad Sahagún which is an ex-Bombardier plant, the very plant that costed Bombardier Transportion millions in losses because it didn't have suffucient quality controls and delivered poor quality products late. So I am curious how quickly/easily Alstom got the plant to make quality rolling stock built on time. (this may point to previous problems being Bombardier management problems due to cost cutting needed to pay for its folly of developping 3 new airplanes at same time).
BTW, one of the original press releases: "The X'trapolisTM is Alstom's electric train that will have a unique and exclusive design for Mexico." No mention of diesel. So I get the impression that the original order was to be electric and they switched at some point to diesels since electric inftastructure wouldn't be ready. And if Alstom was able to update production line and stil deliver reliable trains on time , then this would be quite an achievement.
But if you've been to Campeche, Mérida, or other cities along the route, how can you enter these cities without disrupting blocks of houses? Alternatively, you could go underground, but that would be costly, and the ground on the peninsula isn’t ideal for tunneling. I don’t mind an outside station as long as there’s a transit project integrated nearby. Mérida and Campeche are doing this, and it’s looking outstanding so far.
I agree it’s a shame about the diesel version of the X'trapolis, but if you look closely at the train’s roof in the drone footage, you can see an area for the pantograph and space for all the electrical equipment needed to make it an EMU. Switching to a full EMU setup should be easy if they decide to go that route.
I have read this in many places that Mexican coke taste is better than every where did you find any difference?
It does, its made with sugar cane, I live near the US border and know both
@josephrodriguez5510 Bro can you do me a favor it's a humble request if you can send one piece of Mexican coke by post for me i will be very great full to you.
I live in the midwest, we can get Mexican Coke here(in glass bottles!)...
all coke sold outside the us is made with sugar instead of corn syrup. just look for the heavy old fashioned glass bottles. it’s available nationally.
@@josephrodriguez5510not necessarily cane sugar just real sugar from cane or beets or a combination of both.
9:24 if we come to that, don't get me wrong though, I don't say we won't, but you never know what might happen
Holaaaaaa!
Can you please make a video about the train EC Canopus this train Is operated between Prague And Zurich
Already done ;)