Jim Cornette on The Ox Baker / Ernie Ladd Riot
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- From Episode 110 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru!
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Met Ox Baker at a house show in Warner Robins Ga. A crowd of us kids ran up to the ropes after Mr. WRESTLING #2 whooped him. He hops out of the ring, looks over at us and gave us all a mean growl. I was so scared (at 6yrs) I couldn't move, everybody else ran. He picked me up, took me to the back and introduced me to all the wrestlers. He then took me back to my dad and told him to keep this little monster under control. Then they laughed.
"Ox..the brats are getting restless.."
@@takerdust "Just a little more heat, Dad!"
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The natives are getting restless lol
We need a Cornys Ernie impressions omnibus 😊
There's a point in the riot when they realize, shit how we gonna get outta here
Just went to watch that riot video......AWESOME!! Thanks Jim !!
The first person I saw use the heart punch was Killer Kowalski. I also saw him being interviewed. There was a small table between the seats he and the interviewer were seated on. Killer was asked if wresting was fake... he got mad and raised his arm in the air and broke the table in half!
Once of my favorite segments from the Drive-Thru.
I've been binging on Jim Cornett the past two months. Before bed , when I wake up, pretty much whenever I'm not at work or driving. Which by the way, I need to make it to where I can listen to him in my vehicle instead of my rap music xD. Thank you guys so much for everything yall do. Y'all are so great at keeping me listing especially when I need to be sleeping & I've learned so much I didn't know about wrestling from y'all to where I look up some of the older guys y'all talk about. I'm 27 yo from Cullman Al, & my family always loved wrestling. I absolutely plan on buying some autographed items from you soon & thank y'all again. I can't wait for my notifications to tell me a new video is up 😁😁😁 💙💙💜
Cullman AL-A-BAMA right off of I-65
I was a young cop at the end of that era, an exciting time was guaranteed if you were working an NWA event. The fans thought it was legit fighting. Great fun memories! But, on a serious note, often Stuff hit the fans and lives were really at risk!
I remember a young Ox when he was a jobber in Detroit with no facial hair
Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍
“Ox, the Natives are getting restless!” 🤣
I have always heard that Doug "Ox" Baker was a helluva nice guy and quite bright. Played college football at either Iowa or Purdue if I recall
A friend of mine when he was living in Florida used to go to this one bar that Ox Baker would go. He said was really quiet guy that would sit there or a peasant shirt and sandals and would just quietly drink his beer.
@@thomasswafford250 Ox was known for bringing his own food on the road and would cook for himself and other guys. Later wrote a cookbook.
I've just seen a clip from October of 1983, Bobby Eaton started a riot in Memphis, he took Jimmy hearts briefcase and threw his money everywhere! Fans instantly stormed the ring, grandmothers, fathers, and small kids clambering into the ring to get some $$$. That was fucking great.
Cornette's wrong about this not being a match. I was at Elyria, OH about two weeks before the Cleveland card and they did the same match with the same finish(without the riot) that they did in Cleveland. Powers-Ladd was going around the circuit as the main event during the spring of 1974.
I remember Mean Mark Callous used it in WCW. I also forgot about Crush using it.
He was the last wrestler I remember that used the heart punch. Right after the Skyscrapers broke up, he wore the Mulligan black glove one the hand he used for the punch.
@@markabboud8564 Diesel used it for a short time in WWF too in the mid 90's when he started.
Hey Jim Cornett, do you remember a wrestler called the voodoo kid who was able to reverse the pain when a figure four leg Vine was placed on him. he only wrestled for a short period of time in New York.
Don't forget Joe la duke
Ive seen a clip of the riot with Cornettes commentary and its absolute gold
Gotta agree that Cyclon Negro had the best heartpunch!!
I could listen to Corny as Ernie Ladd read the back of a cereal box. 🙌🏼💯
Ernie could do promos. His Georgia promos ripping Mr. Wrestling II ("Masked Varmit. I know he's a criminal"), Thunderbolt Patterson talking out the side of his neck (Yek Yek Yek ... Yak Yak Yak) and then Jay Strongbow ("Drunken Indian. I know he's got a belly full of whiskey.") are classic.
The heart punch was more about the psychology. You could work a whole match around that 1 move if you knew what you were doing.
I've seen video of this, it really was chaos.
Mean Mark callous otherwise known as The Undertaker good heart punch and you got to give credit to the guys selling the movie
Luv Jim Cornette--met him once in 1994---fun guy,,,an encyclopedia of wrestling ...the best! Where's the tennis racquet! lol
Mean Mark Callous is where I remembrr the Heart Punch.
His was a classic work ,before kayfab ended 🥺😡🤔😭🤬
Corny!!!!! Came back to listen to this!!!
I just watched the video.. a-m-a-z-i-n-g.. I would have chasing that high for the rest of my career to get that type of heat. 😂 Man wresting was beautiful back than.
When people believed it was real.
Cleveland fans take care. Of. Business,10 cent. Beer nite and attacking ox. Very. Edgey, fans.
Ring announcer Terry Allen....
Man that match was a true Classic Gem of what pro wrestling was all about and is supposed to be unlike the crap garbage that goes on today!!! Ox had a hell of a hart punch but the way stan delivered his was excellent 👌👌👌
I saw Xo Wrestle Carlos Colon in PR. Ox was the World Champ(re Match). People were scared of him ......crazy good ole dayzzz.
By the way, check out Ox Baker on the Price is Right
Check out Ox on the price is right. Classic good guy.
the heart punch was always more convincing than the claw.
we've all hears the sad stories of well, mostly teenage boys
taking a ball or puck to the chest and dying from the rhythm
being thrown off. so, more believable than the claw. imo.
and I'm a big von Eric fan.
I sure as hell wouldn’t want a 300 pound human being hitting me in the heart as hard as he can. A high likelihood of death I’d imagine.
Ernie Ladd 🔥
I remember as kids outside the wrestling arena greeting wrestlers, Ox Baker was one of the nicest of them all, better than dusty Rhodes, Jack Brisco
Look up the Invader 1 vs Ox Baker. The way Ox Heart punched Invader repeatedly just looked vicious.
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“ the natives are getting restless “😂
The Natives are getting restless.😂😂😂
Just a little more heat lol
"Ox, the natives are getting restless. Leave with ya heat!"
@@darthken815 😂😂
"Just a little more heat Ernie" - OX Baker
Ox Baker scared the shit out of me as a kid. He was horrifying.
Ox 🐂 Baker used to live in the same housing development as I did. He’d sit by the clubhouse pool on weekends insulting everyone!😂😆 True heel!
U fucking guys r priceless Everytime they mention any wrestler the first comment is from some douche saying they have some domestic connection to these fing guys like the guy who goes to church with sting or that lying scumbags that lived with Ox Baker. Oh wait that's u!
@@FreeRadical222 wow dude, try not to cut yourself on that edge.
What a loser you are 😂😂
@John DoeNo way I dont believe it Baby Doll now I know ur lying I dont believe someone of her status would take time away from her illustrious career to respond to the little people, wow the people in ur town must know u as the guy who met Babydoll. I apologize everything in life must seem insignificant to that ur amazing!
@John Doe wow ur amazing 4hats got to go down as one of the biggest burns ever or was it a case a and what u made it simple so r u so u dont count were taking over 4 leF clover over and overrunnin into m e r u fing kidding me u barely graduated sixth grade but it was ur mark infinity we r one we r all time to take it to the next level gloorious its just about another man swinging the ripe
Doe gave up thats what happens when u have an 80 iq
I loved seeing Ox Baker in John Carpenter's Escape from New York.
Brutal way to go out. Damn.
He was just resting - if the crowd didn't leave he'd have made a comeback 🤣🤣
" They sent in there best man".
@@cpthetrucker9067 I love that fight, it ends so abruptly.🤘😁
@@evanabbott2737 😂😂😂😂
The Cleveland riot is, in my opinion, the pinnacle moment for pro grapplin'. If you want to see fans get hot and bothered, there's nothing that tops it.
Go watch any card in Puerto Rico.
When ole and gene turned in the cage was 🔥🔥🔥
Tulsa - “Hold my Beer 🍺 “
True
I do wonder if there was a loss when the UFC became big.
Their fans attended wrestling shows because they wanted to see violence.
@@ryanmussell739 I'm not sure if spectators had an escalation of appetite for violence as much as new venues of violence were opened up. I remember when the first Ultimate Fighting Championships came out on VHS, and being kinda disappointed that actual fighting wasn't as Hollywood as grapplin'. There's definitely skill and awesomeness to UFC stuff, but it's still kinda measured and has actual rules. No eye gouging or Atomic Drops, y'know?
That riot footage is a must see. Wow. Those people were ready to kill OX. Watch til the very end. Violent chair shot
Even with the camera so far away and terrible sound quality, that shot sound s gnarly.
Looks feeble to me
@@alberttwangle893 Yes, you are feeble, Albert. Just because YOUR mom sat you on the toilet backwards when you were a child is NO EXCUSE for your lack of education, wit, and class. 🧐
let's be glad Ox didn't try to heart punch Bob Barker when Ox showed up on The Price is Right
I disagree with Cornette on Ox Baker's heat punch. Yeah, Baker wasn't much of a worker, but I thought his heart punch looked fine.
Cyclone Negro... What a name!
The national weather service could use a clue from wrestling for storm names.
Give that to ACH
Cyclone Negro,! dam. I haven't heard that name in decades!
My grandma and I was just talking about him.
I did a double take when I heard that name XDXD
I remember him from Championship Wrestling from Florida along with Omar Negro.
He just said there was a wrestler called Cyclone NegroHoly Shit how times have changed
@@robertgerrard nothing racist about it, he was a mexican wrestler i believe. If you translate it it just means a black cyclone but I guess no a day someone would surely find it offensive or racist.
Cant help but laugh thinking of Ladd laying there saying " I told you the natives...." while trying to avoid debris but having to sell so he can only roll over a bit..,that last chair shot to baker by the fan was brutal..the dude filming even reacted..
Ox Baker was on the price is right it's on youtube
I saw Ox Baker spit right in the face of a little kid looking to get an autograph. Saw it in person ring side. lol
I remember when Ox and Ernie were here in Florida and Ox gave Ernie a black eye. "He said to Gordon Solie, I am so sorry, I am sorry I didn't blacken both of them!"
Love Ox Bakers promos, most guys today cant touch his promos.
"The natives are getting restless!"
I just saw ox on price is right from back in 1981......won a clock for his wife.
I always wanted to see Undertaker use the Mean Mark Heart Punch at least once in WWF/E.
Ox Baker got such heat in Australia after he heart punched a babyface into oblivion here that that the papers had to run an update after the tv stations phones melted
When I was a kid (5-6 yo) & before I knew about kayfabe, I used to be so afraid of Ox Baker that when he would come on TV, I was legit acraid he was going to reach out through the TV screen & get me!😂😂😂
That’s funny because I was the same way with the undertaker... turns out compared to this guy the undertaker ain’t shit 💀
@@stayblackandgoldforlife2144 I remember when I was like 12 (92) my little nephew was watching wrestling with me and papa Shango came on for a promo..I did thay thing on the landline (I think it was like 999- last four of phone number) to make the phone ring..I answered like it was shango and I was like “no you can’t come over right now...my nephew is here and he’s scared and I hung up..I saw the terror on his face ...then repeated and said oh no he’s on his way.I’m a terrible person ..he freaked out
@@stayblackandgoldforlife2144 lmfao!!
@@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842 lmfao!! Did he have nightmares?
I remember watching an episode of The Price Is Right when Ox Baker was a contestant
Saw it on TH-cam recently. He won the first game and made it to the big wheel
(Vince McMahon Voice) “THATS GOOD SHIT!”...
Im going to check that out in a few
Bob Barker says I bet you through guys out of the ring and Ox replies I beat him up especially when I don't win Bob Barker that's what I'm afraid of
I watched it on TH-cam also. I think that Bob already knew who Ox was.
Haha just watched the video for this. Loved how Ernie sold it well after sh*t got real, and then just kind of slipped out and left the heels to fend for themselves.
"The natives are getting restless…"
I will randomly say out loud "The natives are getting restless" in my best Ernie Ladd voice. RIP Ox & Ernie
That's Real Heat Baby.. That was in 1974 at the Downtown Arena, I'm from Cleveland and that's how it used to be, We calmed down A Little. You Just can't get that kind of Heat Anymore.
That kind of heat these days would get your promotion banned from cities for that.
Thnx fa having Grandpa's bck. I love Cleveland!!!!
The Cleveland Arena was on the verge of being torn down when the riot occurred. I'm sure being forced to move to the Richfield Coliseum had something to do with the NWF's demise.
The natives getting restless... lmao
5:36 When Jim says Bob Finnegan, did he really mean John Lanigan? Lanigan and Jack Reynolds were perhaps the top broadcasting personalities in Cleveland at the time. Both were on-air hosts at WUAB (Channel 43), where the NWF's TV originated.
Thnx Jim. I love seeing my grandpa at his best. I was turned on to you by someone else and well yeah you have a new fan. I see where I get my mouth from 👀👊
Doug spoke to me about that and told me the opposite story. he told me that Ernie was
encouraging him to keep punching him. Doug contents that he didn't want to because he
and Johnny Powers were scared as hell and wanted to get out of the ring alive but Ernie
was insisting so he kept hitting him until all hell broke loose. Lmao
Ox Baker was on the price is right
I saw Cyclone Negro wrestle once in Wichita Kansas probably because his frequent tag partner Omar Atlas was a big favorite there. As for today's fans, They just want hopping around.
I met Ladd once years ago,a real nice guy!
Undertaker did the heart punch too when he was Mean Mark
🖤💥🤛
The punch to the heart was considered a special move in Puerto Rico it was only use on special occasions by the Invader 1
Until he upgraded to the Knife edge special finisher
@@eamonwright7488 Yeah really though
Ox was on the Price is Right
What had happened was Ernie had returned to the NWF and was named "Wrestler of the Year". Powers took exception saying he had been there all year and deserved the award. Powers turned heel and Ladd became the babyface. Prior to that Ladd had turned babyface in a feud with NWF Champion Waldo Von Erich and defeated him for the title in Utica, NY. I was at that match which I believe was in June 1973. I was 12 and Big Ernie Ladd was my favorite wrestler. R.I.P. Big Cat.
Man this shit was hilarious
I did find the riot video on TH-cam, wicked.!! the heat Ox Baker generated was so damn real, the crowd totally believed it. That was the time when wrestling was truly awesome.
I saw Cyclone Negro vs Dick Murdoch in Richmond Va. Fucking awesome
That wasn't the main event?! Lmao wow
I always thought that The Big Show would be good to use The Claw, or The Heart Punch. 👊
I can recall Show using the claw once during a squash match against some little cruiserweight local talent jobber. It wasn't pretty. I'm pretty sure he was taking some liberties with that poor guy so I hope his payout was worth it.
cornette lately actually has been making alot of sense.
Christian Monroe I feel the same way. Admittedly I disagree on some stuff he says but he can put into words things I can't seem to entirely get into; like AEW's "video game" matches
Nah
Ernie and Brody Ran the Indy's
Them were some bad bad dudes.
After calling Ox Baker ugly at a match he turned around and told me I was no Snow White.
Someone invented it, Texas Red perfected it. That, and the heat seeking missile.
If anyone cares, ox baker had a small role in a movie called escape from new york.
I had the privilege of meeting and working with ox Baker I think Jim cornette needs to reassess his opinion
Ox Baker would tell you he was not a great “wrestler” BUT his image and his promos were second to NONE. I was not a big fan of wrestling growing up but I love Ox Baker. Watch his interviews and 350 days documentary!
Mean Mark (Undertaker) used to do the heart punch as well.
Stan Stasiak spent some time in GA on Georgia Championship Wrestling with his heart punch there as well--NWA. Saw him wrestle and lose to Mr. Wrestling II.
ox baker wins this one
Man ‘ Boy I Was Afraid of ‘ Baker ‘ When I Was 8’
In the early 80's, I would watch the Poffo's Lexington territory promotion. Ox Baker was THE heel. His heart punch was over big time back then.
Ox Baker had a good one in St Louis against snake plissken
The names plisken
@@BOB1972ize it's pisskin
@@alexfromsolitude ok lol
But Plissken cheated to win that match, I think he used a foreign object.
@@Anubisxian it was hardcore rules
Mace aka Mark repellant back in the day. 😵
Douglas (Ox) Baker was on an episode of The Price Is Right with Bob Barker. Can't remember if he won the showcase prize.
The whole segment is on TH-cam. He got as far as spinning the big wheel. Was in 1981 I believe
You might be able to find a few Cyclone Negro matches in the Southwest Championship collection on here.
Just a little more heat
Ya just a little more heat