Your depiction of local residents as racoons made me chuckle. The other shortcoming of the Allen expressway that was downright dangerous was the fact that you had to exit the 401 from the left lane. I grew up in Toronto but live in BC now. I guess I'm a bit homesick because I find myself watching a lot of Toronto content lately. Thanks for the video!
Very informative! I learned many details about the controversy that I was unaware of. Great job laying out the narrative. A real pleasure to watch and learn from!
Such a good video. I already had a light understanding of the topic but this was still well worth seeing to get more knowledge on this project. And the quality of the video and presentation was fantastic.
You should do a video about Kingston road. It was another failed highway. Also you have the underground PATH network that was built to be a underground road network that also failed and became a underground PATH for pedestrians.
I didn't read anything like that back when I made this video -- but if you've found a source somewhere indicating that was the plan, I'd genuinely love to check it out! :)
One thought to consider in the "will of the many" framing: there's no good evidence that there was an obvious majority of people who wanted this expressway. Bill Davis, who cancelled the project, won a strong majority of seats in both Ontario and Toronto, later that year. The Liberals, who were the only party advocating for finishing Spadina, only won 4 seats in Toronto, and came 3rd across the province.
Why not like, I dunno, make a tunnel in that unfinished section. And you're probably gonna say I'm bonkers because that is too expensive but I mean, is it really? Tunnels are EVERYWHERE in Europe. Just mazes and mazes of tunnels. They really have that much disposable income? We always talk about how many bike lanes Europe have. Never the tunnels...
True. But remember, he led to "Progressive" Conservative party when that still meant something. By today's standard, he would fit in better with the NDP in Ontario.
ngl allen road should combine near the end by eglinton so that theres only one traffic light instead of two and traffic might run a little more smoothly
Yes cause more lanes and more expressways fixes traffic 😂, cancelled Spadina exrpressway would still be carrying less amount of people than the subway that replaced it
It’s not wrong though. Building a freeway only to end it abruptly forces the Allen road traffic onto Lawrence or Eglinton. If they weren’t going to continue the project, they should have turned the Allen into a normal road with proper exits and entrances leading up to Eglinton. The 401 also operates as a barrier that channels traffic only through a few main roads like the Allen, so that doesn’t help matters either. What stopped this project was the money in Forest hill not students or conservationists lol. The residents didn’t want this hwy cutting through it. If this road was further west in poorer areas near dufferin or Caledonia, it would have been completed.
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Lol the sarcasm in calling the gardiner a national treasure was gold. Great video
Thank you :)
Your depiction of local residents as racoons made me chuckle. The other shortcoming of the Allen expressway that was downright dangerous was the fact that you had to exit the 401 from the left lane. I grew up in Toronto but live in BC now. I guess I'm a bit homesick because I find myself watching a lot of Toronto content lately. Thanks for the video!
Very informative! I learned many details about the controversy that I was unaware of. Great job laying out the narrative. A real pleasure to watch and learn from!
Very high quality production and well explained in 5 mins.
Such a good video. I already had a light understanding of the topic but this was still well worth seeing to get more knowledge on this project. And the quality of the video and presentation was fantastic.
Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for kind comment :)
Great video!
Kind comment! :)
That's why now, at the present, Wilson & Dufferin to Downtown at least an hour... So stupid... 😡
You should do a video about Kingston road. It was another failed highway. Also you have the underground PATH network that was built to be a underground road network that also failed and became a underground PATH for pedestrians.
Huh, didn't know anything about that. I'll be checking that out!
I thought it was gonna take the route along Dufferin st all the way to the Gardiner?
I didn't read anything like that back when I made this video -- but if you've found a source somewhere indicating that was the plan, I'd genuinely love to check it out! :)
Why is this production quality so high?? I expected a few thousand subscribers at least :( keep it up!
That is genuinely the kindest comment I've ever gotten, thank you so much ;)
Couldn’t have said it better
One thought to consider in the "will of the many" framing: there's no good evidence that there was an obvious majority of people who wanted this expressway. Bill Davis, who cancelled the project, won a strong majority of seats in both Ontario and Toronto, later that year. The Liberals, who were the only party advocating for finishing Spadina, only won 4 seats in Toronto, and came 3rd across the province.
Why not like, I dunno, make a tunnel in that unfinished section. And you're probably gonna say I'm bonkers because that is too expensive but I mean, is it really? Tunnels are EVERYWHERE in Europe. Just mazes and mazes of tunnels. They really have that much disposable income? We always talk about how many bike lanes Europe have. Never the tunnels...
There is a tunnel, but they wisely chose to put subway lines in it instead of traffic jams. 🙂
Very informative. Stopping destructive expresways through vibrant communities like Spadina was absolutely the right thing to do.
Premier Bill Davis is a rare example of a Conservative Party W
True. But remember, he led to "Progressive" Conservative party when that still meant something. By today's standard, he would fit in better with the NDP in Ontario.
ngl allen road should combine near the end by eglinton so that theres only one traffic light instead of two and traffic might run a little more smoothly
Trams forever 🎉 Cars never!
This is why Toronto's traffic is awful. Incomplete, and lack of freeways.
Yes cause more lanes and more expressways fixes traffic 😂, cancelled Spadina exrpressway would still be carrying less amount of people than the subway that replaced it
I swear we're gonna fix traffic just let me build one more lane bro
It’s not wrong though. Building a freeway only to end it abruptly forces the Allen road traffic onto Lawrence or Eglinton. If they weren’t going to continue the project, they should have turned the Allen into a normal road with proper exits and entrances leading up to Eglinton. The 401 also operates as a barrier that channels traffic only through a few main roads like the Allen, so that doesn’t help matters either.
What stopped this project was the money in Forest hill not students or conservationists lol. The residents didn’t want this hwy cutting through it. If this road was further west in poorer areas near dufferin or Caledonia, it would have been completed.
@@TheRandCrews in this case it would have definitely alleviated traffic coming from the north west of the city. This isn’t a more lanes issue.
Right now, GTA is about 6.4M... More Cars minus less subway & minus 2 ways to Downtown = Disaster